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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show kicks.

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Speaker 3: Off right now.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for being here with us, everybody, and we've got

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Speaker 2: a lot to get to. Corine Jean Pierre, White House

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Speaker 2: Press secretary, gets a little bit agitated with the question

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Speaker 2: about whether or not Joe Biden has dementia.

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Speaker 3: It's an insult.

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Speaker 2: We even think that this guy who clearly has dementia

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Speaker 2: has dementia. I mean, it is beyond the pale, sir.

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Speaker 2: We shall get into that. RFK Junior names a super

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Speaker 2: rich lady who was formerly married to the one of

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Speaker 2: the Google founders as his VP. We discussed this a

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Speaker 2: little bit yesterday. A lot of people who are like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: URFK Junior is gonna speak truth to power about the

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Speaker 2: big money and the system, are like feeling a little

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Speaker 2: different about it. But boy, Trump put out a truth.

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Speaker 2: Is that I guess that's what you have to say, right,

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Speaker 2: A truth.

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Speaker 3: It's a truth. It's a truth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, look at that, And I look at the

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Speaker 2: way that they control it.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 2: They're controlling the language a little bit. We'll discuss the

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Speaker 2: RFK Junior thing, just because of the implications for the

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Speaker 2: general election. We've got Dave McCormick with us in the

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Speaker 2: third hour. He's running against Casey in Pennsylvania. It is

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Speaker 2: a winnable but fiercely contested Senate seat for Republicans. So

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Speaker 2: we're going to spend some time on that and some

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Speaker 2: of the other important Senate races because it's probably gonna

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Speaker 2: come down to a couple Senate seats. I mean, it

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Speaker 2: almost certainly is going to come down to a couple

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Speaker 2: Senate seats, and that's going to make a big difference.

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Speaker 3: Well, for a whole host of reasons.

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Speaker 2: Biden is lyon or is he lion or rather just

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Speaker 2: doesn't know where he is or what he's saying depends

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Speaker 2: on the day. But he talks about, first of all,

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Speaker 2: the national debt and then talks about the train over

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Speaker 2: the trains over the collapsed bridge in a Baltimore Francis

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Speaker 2: Scott Key Bridge. And yes, we shall discuss some of

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Speaker 2: what Biden has been saying on this, and then the RNA. McDaniel,

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Speaker 2: I want to do you want to dive into this first.

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Speaker 2: I know we've already talked about this issue. But can

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Speaker 2: we just they did it? Okay, they actually fired the

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Speaker 2: former RNC chair. I think she did one interview, and

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Speaker 2: the reports are they're going to pay her three hundred

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars for both of the years of her contract.

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Speaker 2: And now for NBC, that's nothing. Remember NBC had to

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Speaker 2: pay out Meghan Kelly's contract a while ago at like

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Speaker 2: seventy million dollars or something, so correct six hundred grand

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Speaker 2: for them is a rounding error. I mean the amount

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Speaker 2: of money that these corporate news outlets can put towards

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Speaker 2: stupid decision making, in this case firing well, in both

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Speaker 2: of those cases, firing talent is remarkable in and of itself.

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Speaker 2: But Clay, I really I've seen some people saying this.

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Speaker 2: I think our friend Molly Hemingway, who is brilliant and

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Speaker 2: also has brilliant parents, because apparently they listen to this

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Speaker 2: show frequently, which makes me very happy. A friend, Molly

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Speaker 2: hamming Away from Fox. I think she said this, or

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Speaker 2: maybe it was Karen Markowitz who said this on X.

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Speaker 2: Republicans should not go on NBC or MSNBC at all

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Speaker 2: going forward, full stop elected officials, nobody, that's it.

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Speaker 3: You don't need it.

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Speaker 2: Why go on it? Why play their game? It's pure propaganda.

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Speaker 2: They play by no rules.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I know that the way that Rona

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Speaker 1: McDaniel is treated here, a lot of people probably don't

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Speaker 1: care because a lot of you are not huge Roony

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Speaker 1: McDaniel fans. And I understand that we had her on

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Speaker 1: three times on this show and she was great for

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Speaker 1: us as a guest. But even when we had her

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Speaker 1: on here, people were saying she wasn't right wing enough.

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Speaker 1: What I think this is eye opening and should be

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Speaker 1: eye opening for a lot of people, is they're trying

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Speaker 1: to establish litmus tests, and the litmus test is if

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Speaker 1: you vote for Trump or you support Trump, you aren't

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Speaker 1: able to be on their network effectively. Even the things

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Speaker 1: all the Republicans they're fine with are Liz Cheney. If

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Speaker 1: you can't be on the network and vote for the

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Speaker 1: Republican nominee for president, they aren't interested in actually talking

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Speaker 1: to at least half the country. And if NBC had

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Speaker 1: some incredibly sterling level of journalistic integrity, maybe I look

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Speaker 1: at it and say, Okay, they don't want to employ

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Speaker 1: Press secretary. There are a long litany of things that

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Speaker 1: Jensaki said that are patently untrue, including endorsing the fifty

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Speaker 1: one intelligence agents who said that the Hunter and Laptop

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Speaker 1: had all the hallmarks and misinformation. She lectured all the

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Speaker 1: big tech companies and threatened them that if they weren't

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Speaker 1: responding to censorship requests from the Biden White House surrounding COVID,

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Speaker 1: there effectively would be consequences. Joy Reid wrote all sorts

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Speaker 1: day and then claimed that it was somehow hacked by

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Speaker 1: time travelers who went back and wrote things negatively that

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Speaker 1: idea how they got there.

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Speaker 2: I think She also called for an FBI investigation yeah

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Speaker 2: of it, to really just hammer home how insane it was.

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Speaker 1: Chuck Todd went on Meet the Press and lectured anyone

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Speaker 1: who didn't get the COVID shot that they were a

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Speaker 1: direct threat against public health, and most memorably, Rachel Maddow

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Speaker 1: has been wrong on everything. She said that Trump won

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Speaker 1: the election in twenty sixteen, she said his tax returns

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Speaker 1: were god. I mean that he one because of Russia.

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Speaker 1: She was leading the Russia Russia Russia collusion hoax. Probably

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Speaker 1: made more money off of it than anyone in media,

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Speaker 1: because that's the reason why her ratings went up. She

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Speaker 1: lied and has never apologized to her audience for saying

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Speaker 1: if you got the COVID shot, it would stop all transmission.

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Speaker 3: These people have spread.

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Speaker 1: My point on this is whatever you think about Rona McDaniel,

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Speaker 1: what she has said publicly is no worse than what

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Speaker 1: the highest not to mention, Joe Scarborough and Mika Berzinski,

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Speaker 1: what the highest paid people on MSNBC have all said too.

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Speaker 1: So the idea of the journalists here that their lives

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Speaker 1: are in furtherance of what they want to advance.

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Speaker 2: Correct and Ronal McDaniels firing was addressed by Rachel Maddow,

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Speaker 2: who is the the biggest name at MSNBC. And as

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Speaker 2: we've discussed paying her thirty million dollars, which is completely

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's a great gig.

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Speaker 2: Here she is explaining engaging in some propaganda herself here

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Speaker 2: about why the firing of Ron McDaniel isn't the act

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Speaker 2: of just vindictive partisan cowardice. That we can all see

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Speaker 2: that it is play five.

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Speaker 4: I mean what I said on the air last night,

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Speaker 4: and I showed that. I think that acknowledging that you

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Speaker 4: might have gotten something wrong is a real sign of strength,

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Speaker 4: a real show of strength. And I think it's a

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Speaker 4: who make us who we are. That leadership is willing

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Speaker 4: to change on this, and I'm grateful to them. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's not about hiring a Republican, it's not even about

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Speaker 3: Has Trump ties.

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Speaker 4: This was a really specific case because of MS McDaniel's

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Speaker 4: and her involvement in the election interference stuff. And I'm

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Speaker 4: grateful that our leadership was willing to do the I think,

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Speaker 4: the bold, strong, resilient thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Discott, she should be ashamed of herself and

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Speaker 2: all the people that are calling for the firing of

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Speaker 2: Iron mc daniel, because you have to understand, as I've

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Speaker 2: our people think she's a rhino. A lot of you

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Speaker 2: so if that's the perception of the base, meanwhile she's

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Speaker 2: the most establishment role you can have, which is RNC chair.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it would be as though if there was,

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Speaker 2: if there was somebody, let's say that, you know, they

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Speaker 2: were gonna have Kevin McCarthy a job as a commentator somewhere,

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Speaker 2: and they're like, he's outside the main stream. It's like, well,

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Speaker 2: he was speaker of a house. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you can really say he's outside the main stream. That's

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Speaker 2: really what they've done here with Ron McDaniels. She's beyond

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Speaker 2: the pale as former R and C chair. What does

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Speaker 2: that make you and me? You know what does that

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Speaker 2: make everybody else? All of our friends on the right

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Speaker 2: who are involved in these discussions. You know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 2: if Daniel's too crazy for them, we got to be

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Speaker 3: A couple of things too.

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Speaker 1: On this one, I agree with Rachel Maddow that when

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Speaker 1: you get things wrong, you should talk to your audience

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Speaker 1: and acknowledge them. Has Rachel Maddow ever acknowledged that she

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Speaker 1: was wrong about Russia collusion. Has she ever acknowledged that

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Speaker 1: she was wrong about the COVID shot. I don't think

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Speaker 1: she has second part here, and building on what you

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Speaker 1: they don't want anybody who supports Trump to be allowed

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Speaker 1: They don't even want people to be able to hear

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Speaker 1: And for everybody out there, I think this is important.

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Speaker 1: Fox News employed Donna Brazil. Did Sean Hannity start off

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Speaker 1: News because they were employing Hillary Clinton's I think she

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Speaker 1: was a campaign manager, wasn't she Whatever her official title was,

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Speaker 1: she was very high up in the Clinton twenty sixteen campaign.

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Speaker 2: She's a real Democrat like anybody. She's a Democrat. Anybody

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Speaker 3: She's put in the time, she and she for their cause.

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Speaker 1: And she wied and said that Trump got elected because

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Speaker 3: She said all those things.

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity didn't open his show, Tucker Carlson didn't open

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Speaker 1: Where is their actual discussion of ideas? Though, I do

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Speaker 1: think it's important to compare MSNBC and Fox News in

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Speaker 1: more Democrats going on Fox than you see if it

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Speaker 1: wasn't for the fact that they take untenable positions. You know,

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Speaker 1: go on Fox News and try to argue with Sean

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Speaker 1: hosts about how men can get pregnant, Like, see how

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Speaker 1: that goes for you as a Democrat member of Congress

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Speaker 1: or a pundit or whatever.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna get smoked. So it's Fox is willing to

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Speaker 2: have them on. I think even more would go on

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Speaker 2: if it wasn't for the fact that they realized that

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Speaker 2: I'd be willing to go on MSNBC or CNN if

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Speaker 2: it was going to be me and the host. The

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Speaker 2: problem is you can't go on those shows if it's

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Speaker 2: the other guest, the host comes up behind you with

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Speaker 2: and then you hear the bell ring. You're like, what

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Speaker 3: Election denying. If they all denied the election.

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Speaker 2: Russia collusion was one giant election denial scheme, using the

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Speaker 2: We'll get back into this. True citizenship in this country

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. We're talking about the

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Speaker 1: there is it's hard to get into media and if

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Speaker 1: It's about everybody out there listening is going to end

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Speaker 1: We need to talk some about this RFK announcement which

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Speaker 2: I've been very skeptical of this RFK junior fellow from

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Speaker 1: Well, I agree with him on the COVID stuff. I

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Speaker 2: We agree on the COVID stuff, But I've always said,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if anybody has done anything about and apologizing

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Speaker 3: That's a Legacy Box.

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Speaker 1: Legacy Box will solve the problem of digitally transferring old

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Speaker 3: Like VHS tapes or cassettes coming up on Easter.

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Speaker 1: How many of you back in the day had Easter

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Speaker 3: Okay, we mentioned this for I wanted you all to.

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Speaker 2: Hear it yourselves before we start to dissect this politically.

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Speaker 2: So our FK Junior has announced that his and where.

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Speaker 2: I got to tell you, I think I think either

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Speaker 2: I've never heard of the mwakma Olone personally, I can't

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think is there words other than this

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Speaker 3: But anyway that would be that would actually be amazing.

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Speaker 1: If we started the show by apologizing with the Native

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Speaker 2: I will just say it, I do not trust that person.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what other issues they're good on. This

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Speaker 2: to me is for for me, it's a disqualifier full

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Speaker 2: of yes.

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Speaker 3: I would not.

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Speaker 1: This is, by the way, some of you out there

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Speaker 1: have probably never heard of this before. I read about

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Speaker 1: this a couple of years ago, and I did a

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Speaker 1: deep dive on it because I was stunned. This is

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Speaker 1: happening at colleges all over the place. It is now

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Speaker 1: commonplace for colleges for classes to begin the semester with

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Speaker 1: an apology to Native Americans for the fact that we

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Speaker 1: now live on their land.

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Speaker 3: Not making it up. This actually is.

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Speaker 1: It occurs, and I think it's just evidence that while

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Speaker 1: you can agree with some of what RFK Junior says,

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit like, to me, Buck the guy

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Speaker 1: who believes in every conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be right once in a while, but.

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Speaker 1: You're also gonna end up going down crazy rabbit holes.

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Speaker 1: And to me, that's a little bit what RFK Junior is.

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Speaker 1: He's the guy who recognizes and calls out some conspiracy

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Speaker 1: theories that are true, but also you're really kooky in

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Speaker 1: other areas. And so I think he's right on COVID.

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Speaker 1: I think he's right on government censorship. He's got those right.

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Speaker 1: But if this, remember this is a big event for him, Buck,

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Speaker 1: the announcement of the vice president, what you choose to

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Speaker 1: do and how you choose to make that announcement, to

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Speaker 1: say nothing of who you pick to me is evidence

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Speaker 1: of your decision making in general. Opening with a Native

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Speaker 1: American apology is a I'm out moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And to I know that he's very concerned with

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Speaker 2: the environment. I the environmental movement in this country has

470
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Speaker 2: become almost entirely the province of a delusional left wing

471
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Speaker 2: climate change mania.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's very little. If you want.

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Speaker 2: It's so interesting. If you talk about conservation, then you'll

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Speaker 2: have conservatives in the conversation conservation of the environment, conservation

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Speaker 2: of species.

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Speaker 3: A lot of right wingers. I'm one of them.

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Speaker 2: We love animals, right, I mean, we we conservation we're

478
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Speaker 2: all about and and that's something that it's just that

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Speaker 2: one change of word, the moment you say you're if

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Speaker 2: you say you're an environmentalist in America today. Chances are

481
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Speaker 2: it means you're saying you believe in climate change and

482
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Speaker 2: you double mass during COVID, and you know, you went

483
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Speaker 2: along with this monolith of establishment consensus science that's not

484
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Speaker 2: really consensus, and that's not really science. But before we

485
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Speaker 2: get too far, speaking rabbit holes down that one. I mean,

486
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Speaker 2: here's here's rfkjunion. So the whole native Native land thing,

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Speaker 2: I mean, but I just wonder how long do we

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Speaker 2: do that for, Like, in a thousand years, are we

489
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Speaker 2: still supposed to be saying I'm sorry that this was

490
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Speaker 2: land stolen from the from by the way, I mean,

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, all nation states are

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Speaker 2: stolen land.

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Speaker 3: I know this.

494
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Speaker 2: I know this is like a shock to people, but

495
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Speaker 2: all all countries are on land that used to belong

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Speaker 2: to some other group, to some other tribe, to some

497
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Speaker 2: other religion at some other point in time, all over

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Speaker 2: the world. I mean, maybe there's a few exceptions, and

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Speaker 2: like you.

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Speaker 1: Know, the South Pacific, but also all those Native American

501
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Speaker 1: tribes fought over the land themselves, so they stole it

502
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Speaker 1: from each other all the time.

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Speaker 2: And there were they you know the uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: some of them, you know, the Comanche enslaved other tribes,

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Speaker 2: and the Aztecs were a slave empire and they would

506
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Speaker 2: slaughter thousands of people as human sacrifice. They would murdered children,

507
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Speaker 2: rip their hearts out. They enslaved all the neighboring tribes.

508
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Speaker 2: This notion that the only people that ever have done

509
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Speaker 2: conquest or white European colonial settlers, is completely ahistorical ignorance

510
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Speaker 2: that relies on the lack of history knowledge that unfortunately

511
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Speaker 2: is pervasive across a lot of the American landscape these days.

512
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Speaker 2: A lot of people just don't know. I mean, you know,

513
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Speaker 2: this is why you start talking about.

514
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Speaker 3: Like the the.

515
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Speaker 2: Islamic white slave trade, right, the slave trade by Islamic

516
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Speaker 2: traders in white Europeans people. You walk around, you ask

517
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Speaker 2: people about this one, they'll look at you like you

518
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: were insane. This went on for four hundred years. They

519
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Speaker 2: were sending slave ships to grab people off the coast

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Speaker 2: of Ireland. They made it from North Africa to Ireland.

521
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Speaker 2: They went a long way to get their slaves. They

522
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Speaker 2: went to Iceland at one point to pick up to

523
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Speaker 2: steal slaves. Like anyway slavery, Every person listening to us

524
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Speaker 2: has ancestors who were slaves and probably in slavers, because

525
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Speaker 2: that is the history of humanity. I mean, even if

526
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Speaker 2: people had a basic, basic foundational understanding of the Old Testament,

527
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Speaker 2: for example, they would say, wait a second, I don't

528
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Speaker 2: think that the Jews were in Egypt because they were

529
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Speaker 2: invited guests, you know. Yeah, the understanding of slavery as

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Speaker 2: a multi thousand year an empire built on slavery, the

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Speaker 2: Islamic Empire built on slavery. Anyway, we would not have

532
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Speaker 2: time to get into all this. But this idea, it's

533
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Speaker 2: completely a historical it's nonsense, it's garbage. And also that

534
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Speaker 2: they talk so much about the Native American genocide. The

535
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Speaker 2: fact of the matter is and something else you're not

536
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Speaker 2: supposed to talk about, but about ninety to ninety five

537
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Speaker 2: percent of the casualties in the New World or the

538
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Speaker 2: loss of life in the New World came from it's

539
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Speaker 2: spread of disease.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's actually what happens. Now.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't excuse the other stuff that was going on.

542
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Speaker 2: But what was going on, I mean, who was attacking

543
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Speaker 2: who and where and anyway, Sorry, I get fired up

544
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: about this because this stuff is so omnipresent on campuses

545
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Speaker 2: and in the media now too. Here's RFK Junior naming

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Speaker 2: We're getting back on track, naming his San Francisco lawyer

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Speaker 2: Nicole Shanahan as running mate.

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Speaker 3: Play three.

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Speaker 6: I wanted someone who would honor the traditions or a

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Speaker 6: nation as a nation of the immigrants, but who also

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Speaker 6: understands that to be a nation, we need secure borders.

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Speaker 6: And I found all of those qualities in a woman

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Speaker 6: who grew up right here in Oakland, the daughter of immigrants,

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Speaker 6: who overcame every daunting obstacle and went on to achieve

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Speaker 6: the highest levels of the American dream. So that is

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Speaker 6: why I'm so proud to introduce to you the next

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Speaker 6: Vice President of the United States, my fellow lawyer, a

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Speaker 6: brilliant scientist, technologist, a fierce warrior mom, Nicole sand.

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Speaker 2: Or. He wants somebody who can write huge checks because

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Speaker 2: she used to be married to a founder of Google

561
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Speaker 2: and now is rich.

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Speaker 3: That's a question. Part of this, yeah, huge part of it. Question.

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Speaker 1: She's the one who wrote, underwrote the Super Bowl ad

564
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Speaker 1: that aired for RFK Junior, which was to your point.

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Speaker 1: You started off by saying the first time you had

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Speaker 1: heard of her. That was the first time I'd ever

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Speaker 1: heard of her in terms of a political context. Question

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Speaker 1: for you as we go to break, I'll ask it

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Speaker 1: when we come back. You don't have to answer it

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Speaker 1: right now. But all of you out there too. RFK

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Speaker 1: Junior third party independent candidate. The debate is over who

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Speaker 1: is he going to impact the most? But let me

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Speaker 1: ask you this, buck, what if he were the actual

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Speaker 1: Democrat nominee? Would he beat Trump? If instead of Biden,

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Speaker 1: remember he initially ran as the Democrat nominee. Would RFK

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Speaker 1: Junior as a Democrat be a stronger candidate than Biden?

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Speaker 1: Just think about it, don't answer it right now. That's

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Speaker 1: what we call a t's in the business. Clay is

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Speaker 1: all on the edge of our seat right now. I'll

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Speaker 1: I believe that is Beck bringing us back to have

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Speaker 3: Day, Remember bet I'm a Loser Baby. Yes, fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I mean I like the riff, but I'm like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know about the message.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I I can barely keep up with

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Speaker 1: the lyrics of any song today.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever Have you ever like later on in life,

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Speaker 2: thought about the lyrics of a song you grew up

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Speaker 2: talking about very naughty things.

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Speaker 1: Well, yes, but also at least you can understand some lyrics.

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Speaker 1: Go back and read the lyrics to Nirvana. I mean,

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Speaker 1: none of them make any sense at all. It's like

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Speaker 1: almost indecipherable. And that doesn't even get me into today's rap,

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Speaker 1: Like it's all mumble rap, like my kids like it.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell what anybody's saying.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting. I like nineties rock a lot. Yeah, do

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Speaker 2: not like Nirvana, And I know you're not.

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Speaker 3: That's like not allowed to.

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Speaker 2: It would be like saying you're really pro masking, but

629
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Speaker 2: you hate fauci, Like you're not all out to dislike

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Speaker 2: Nirvana and like nineties grunge rock all you know, alternative music,

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Speaker 2: But I do. I just I don't like Nirvana, But

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Speaker 2: I love Stone Temple Pilots and Sound Garden and Smashing

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Speaker 2: Pumpkins all the other ones. I just don't like Nirvana.

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Speaker 2: So the nineties, I would argue.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the best in terms of pure range that music

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Speaker 1: has ever been.

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Speaker 2: Our listeners forty to fifty something right now are pumping

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Speaker 2: their fists in the air and thinking about that time

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Speaker 2: that you know they were at the stadium listening to

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Speaker 2: Stone Temple Pilots with their you know, high school girlfriend

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Speaker 2: or college girlfriend or whatever. Everybody else is like, that's blasphemy.

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you this is a very generation specific I.

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Speaker 1: Agree on some level, although the range of music today,

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Speaker 1: it seems to me, is far less significant in terms

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Speaker 1: of the quality. Like you had the nineties rock bands

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Speaker 1: that were at their A. Rap I would argue peaked

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Speaker 1: in the nineties in terms.

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Speaker 2: Of well, but have we turned into two middle aged

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Speaker 2: white guys who were saying the music today isn't as

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Speaker 2: good as it was when we were growing up?

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Speaker 3: I just I mean, the best? Who is the best

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Speaker 3: rock star in America? Right now?

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Speaker 1: Is there even that is like popular in the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenties that didn't exist before?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: I can't I don't even know who the band would be.

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Speaker 1: Rock is definitely worse. I rap again. I understand a

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Speaker 1: lot of you do not listen to rap. My fourteen

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Speaker 1: year old thirteen, he's I can't even keep up. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna be fourteen soon. He plays this stuff I can't eat.

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Speaker 1: It's mumble core they call it, or whatever. You can't

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Speaker 1: even understand anything that anybody's saying.

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Speaker 3: This is not good. This is getting.

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Speaker 2: Before we start getting to nostalgic about so. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: well I see something, didn't I yeah, we got We

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Speaker 2: got to actually dive in here too. Would r SK

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Speaker 2: Junior rite the question you pose everyone on a sliffhanger

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to pull us from the edge here. Would

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Speaker 2: RFK Junior, as a Democrat nominee period be more formidable

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Speaker 2: uh and perhaps be able to beat Trumps? You give

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Speaker 2: your answer for My answer is yes, and let me

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Speaker 2: tell you why, RFK Junior. If you are out there

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Speaker 2: right now listening to us, and let's say you're not

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Speaker 2: a diehard Trump person, RFK Junior would give you.

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Speaker 3: A couple of things.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned COVID, I mentioned the censorship complex. Heck, he's

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Speaker 1: the only person in the Democrat party I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: who said men shouldn't compete against women and women's sports.

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Speaker 1: He has some border security strong points. I think he

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Speaker 1: actually would have appeal for middle of the road voters.

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Speaker 3: I asked you this off air.

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Speaker 1: Other than maybe implementing Trump trade policies on China, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure I can point to in thing that Biden

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Speaker 1: has done where I say, you know what, that's a decent,

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Speaker 1: moderate position.

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Speaker 2: This will get this, This will be an unpopular position,

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Speaker 2: but I think it is a reflection of the truth.

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Speaker 3: I think that ending the war in Afghanistan was the

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Speaker 3: right move.

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Speaker 2: I think that the screwed up way that they did

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Speaker 2: it and the loss of life that was unnecessary was awful,

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Speaker 2: But overall, we're not at war in Afghanistan anymore so,

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Speaker 2: and not getting out of there was the right call.

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Speaker 2: We should have been out of there a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: That's just the truth. We should have been out of

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Speaker 2: there a long time. Trump was trying to do it,

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Speaker 2: so anyone who disagrees with that, Trump was trying to

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Speaker 2: do it for all and got us closer to doing it,

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Speaker 2: and told the Taliban, you kill any of any of

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Speaker 2: our guys, you know you're gonna wake up to a

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Speaker 2: moab on your front lawn.

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Speaker 3: Not a lot of front lawns over there. But you

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Speaker 3: get what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I've been a lot, have a lot

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Speaker 1: of picket fences and fences.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Not a lot of Australian labordoodles running around happily in

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Speaker 2: the uh you know, in the barbecue area anyway.

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Speaker 1: Not a suburban pair, No, not so much. So what

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Speaker 1: do you think he'd be more formidable?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 1: You begrudgingly would have to acknowledge as a Democrat nominee

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Speaker 1: r K Junior because he brings the choice.

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Speaker 2: He matches Biden for name recognition with the Kennedy thing.

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Speaker 2: He is old but not Biden old, so that's a

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Speaker 2: big thing in his favor. I think the problem is

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Speaker 2: the Democrat establishment would far rather have Biden as president,

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Speaker 2: not necessarily running, because he's more malleable, because they can

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Speaker 2: pull the strings on the marionette with Biden, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, like almost literally like move his arms around

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Speaker 2: and it sounds like he's talking. Whereas RFK Junior, I

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Speaker 2: think he does have his own ideas and I do

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Speaker 2: think he's a strong willed guy, so that wildcard something

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Speaker 2: they would want. But yes, theoretically, Clay, I think you're

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Speaker 2: at your your analysis is sound on this one.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we come back. We'll talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: more about RFK Junior. Also one year anniversary Covenant School shooting.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about that too, next