1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: The NFL never sleeps. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 2: He's gonna watch down Field picked off. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: By the Colts. 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 3: The roster is ever evolving, and it's all about finding 5 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 3: the edge. 6 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: He's at the thirty thirty five thirty pist go up sideline. 7 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: He's got a chance twenty ten touchdowns. 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 3: This is the Last Word, the off season home of 9 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Colts. 10 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: Chick Us on its way header put the. 11 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: Up parts J. 12 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: Baull twin ball game. Now here's Matt Taylor and Casey Valier. 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: Let's get it going here on a Friday night. Welcome 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: into the Last Word, the off season radio home of 15 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts, airing every Friday night inside the Indiana 16 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: Union Construction Industry Radio Studios right here on ninety three 17 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: five and one seven five. The fan in for Matt 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: Taylor to night is my buddy Bill Brooks. I'm Casey Valier. 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: Bill Gotta, I gotta let the fans know that you 20 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: maybe played the little hooky yesterday. 21 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 4: I played a little hooky yesterday and went over to 22 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 4: Cincinnati to watch my Red Sox. 23 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: Your Red Sox. Red Sox played. 24 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 4: The Cincinnati Reds yesterday and it was a for me 25 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 4: as a fan of the Red Sox. 26 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: It was a good day. I'm sure it was a 27 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: good day. Three nothing. Victory is always good. 28 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 4: Yes, it was, and I had a good time and 29 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 4: the first time I've ever been to the their stadium, 30 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 4: and America America is beautiful as one of the better 31 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 4: stadiums I've been in around the country. So it was 32 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 4: a great time, had fun, beautiful weather, and just nice 33 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 4: to get out to an opening day. That's my first 34 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 4: opening day ever in my life, so it's great to 35 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 4: experience Opening Day in Cincinnati with the Red Sox against 36 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 4: the Red. 37 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: I'm glad for you being the Bostonian that you are, 38 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: we're able to go see your Red Sox, and you 39 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: know it was. It was a good day all around 40 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: because your Red Sox won. Yes, my Saint Louis Cardinals, 41 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: you better watch out. We want to know. It might 42 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: be the only time all year they're over five hundred, 43 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: So that's a pretty good thing. And I also have 44 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: to gloat a little bit. So yesterday was my birthday, 45 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: so I'm a little frustrated Bill that you were gone 46 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: for my birthday. 47 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry about that. 48 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: Prioritizing you know what was important to you. But my 49 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: birthday goes off, and my Purdue boiler Makers probably added 50 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: another ten years to my life and plenty of gray 51 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: up top. But they're going to the Elite eight. They 52 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: are forty minutes away, wow, from playing right here in 53 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: their backyard in the Final Four at Lucas Oil Stadium. 54 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: So that is for me. Yesterday was a wonderful day 55 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: with Purdue Saint Louis Cardinal's getting to win and my birthday. 56 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 4: Man, I'll tell you, I know you had a good 57 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 4: day yesterday, case It's a good good day. 58 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: I heard Perdue had one. 59 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: I know you, Casey was happy because I knew you 60 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 4: was probably probably struggling a little bit there during the 61 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 4: game and saw going back and forth from when I heard, 62 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 4: and I know at the end of the game, I'm 63 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 4: sure you was relieved to know that your Purdue boiler 64 00:02:59,280 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 4: Makers had one. 65 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: I have to say, full transparency, I apologize to my 66 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: teachers or my kids teachers today because both my boys 67 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: stayed up to six year old and they were on 68 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: the edge of their see just like I did. And 69 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: when when Trey Kaufman Rin tipped in the the putback 70 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: there with less than a second left, they went screaming 71 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: and running around the house. I was like, all right, 72 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 2: I've got some lifelog boiler making, Yes, you do, right, 73 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: But it was it was a wonderful day. I know 74 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: that everybody out there listening, they're probably like, hey, we 75 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: tuned on to hear about Colts football. I just wanted 76 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: to give you a little bit inside on what yesterday 77 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: was like for Bill and myself. But we have a 78 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: loaded show for you tonight. We're going to rerack some 79 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: of the conversation that I had yesterday afternoon with Charles Arbuckle, 80 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: but we're also going to dive into what I thought 81 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: was kind of an important tool here today Bill, because 82 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: the last couple weeks of free agency, we've dove into 83 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: the big names. You know when you look at the 84 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: premiere and premium positions, we've really talked at length about those, 85 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: but I thought there were some other needs the Colts addressed, 86 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: and then also some departures, which leads to the Colts 87 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: needing to address a couple areas. So we'll talk about that. 88 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: But then also when we close the show, coming up, 89 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: you know the end of the weekend. In the next 90 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: week are the annual NFL Owners meetings. And there's a 91 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: couple of things on the table that we might talk 92 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: about that they're going to be discussing. But let's start 93 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: right here with kind of what I'm looking at as 94 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: a depth chart, look at some of the additions and subtractions, 95 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: and I wanted to start with at the defensive tackle position. 96 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: I think this is an area that you talk about depth. 97 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: This is probably the deepest in the Chris ballor tenure 98 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: that this has been. You've got your Star Wars with 99 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: you know, the Forest Buckner and Grover Stewart, and I 100 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 2: think you can also throw in the continued growth of 101 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: Atatamwila at a bare but then you also add in 102 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 2: Colby Wooden, who is a guy who continues to emerge, 103 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: will be really anxious to kind of see what his 104 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: start to the NFL or his Indianapolis tenure into his 105 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 2: NFL career is in this season. But also you get 106 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl champion and Derek Noddy and then also 107 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: Jerry Tillery from her first round pick who's kind of 108 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: bounced around over the last couple of years. And the 109 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: only departure in that room is Nevill Gallimore. Yes, so 110 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: you look at that group, it's a very very deep group. 111 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: I think you add all those and like I mentioned to, 112 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: Forest Buckner is there. He only played ten games last year, 113 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 2: essentially missed the final seven. He played in Week sixteen, 114 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: wasn't himself and then decided to shut it down. So 115 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 2: you look at all of the depth and you add 116 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: to Forest Buckner from what this team did the last 117 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 2: half of the Elite of the year, it's some pretty nice 118 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: depth heading into twenty twenty six. 119 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, they got nice depth. And it's not 120 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 4: just the depth as far as just bodies, but these 121 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 4: are veteran guys as played, so they know what it 122 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 4: takes to play in the National Football League. They know 123 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 4: what it takes to be a starter, and I know 124 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: what it takes to be a backup to come in 125 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 4: and fill some roles. So to have those veteran guys 126 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 4: in low system, I think is gonna be a benefit 127 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: of plus for this defense. So that's what you want. 128 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 4: And you know a lot of times when you have 129 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 4: the front line guys out, like the Forest was out 130 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: for a while. You know in the years past, Grove 131 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 4: had missed some time as well. Those guys are running game. 132 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 4: Maybe defenses defensively has kind of fallen off a little 133 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 4: bit trying to stop the run and things like that. 134 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 4: But now you have some veteran guys hopefully that can 135 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 4: fill in if there are injuries. And of course, as 136 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: you mentioned, you were getting Buck back, so Buck adds 137 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 4: a lot to that defense, especially against the run. So 138 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 4: having these guys, I think adding that depth to that 139 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 4: defensive line is gone through a lot. And I think 140 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 4: we've talked about it before as far as the rotation, 141 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 4: as far as pass rush, get the guys some a 142 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 4: breather or get some rest so other guys can step 143 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 4: in and make those plays. So I think it's gonna 144 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 4: be very important for the Colts to have these guys 145 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 4: out there. And then all you talk about out of 146 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 4: timing out of Babery, Yeah, he has developed into a 147 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 4: nice young player that can go out there and make 148 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 4: some plays. As you look over his three years that 149 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: he's been here, you know, his snaps has increased over 150 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 4: the years and his production has increased with those. So 151 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 4: he has produced showed him that he can play in 152 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: this league and produced at a good rate and be 153 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 4: a valuable part to the defensive line rotation. 154 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: No, absolutely, I'm really excited to kind of see his 155 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: continued growth, because I think this year you might see 156 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: a little bit more of Tommy out there on the field, 157 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: kind of creating that havoc inside. Now one of the 158 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: kind of the flip side of that, I think on 159 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: the offensive line, we saw the Colts re signed Luke Tanuda, 160 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: but both Braiden Smith and Danny Pinner, the free other 161 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: free agents on that offensive line have both left to 162 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: join other teams. Now, Braiden Smith, it all kind of 163 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: goes into kind of the nature of the business in 164 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: the NFL. The Colts drafted Jalen Travis, you kind of 165 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: knew that he was in some ways the air apparent 166 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: to Braiden Smith. Braiden Smith gets hurt, Jalen Travis slides 167 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: into the starting lineup for the last four games, and 168 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: I think that was kind of that natural transition of, 169 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: you know, the changing of the guard, if you will, 170 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: at right tackle. But as I mentioned, you know, Bill, 171 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: you're a guy who understands the business side of the 172 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: NFL and whether or not it's easy or hard to 173 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: deal with, that's part of it. And that's where the 174 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: Colts are with Braden Smith being a guy that you know, 175 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: look at the financials and you got to utilize the 176 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: draft to kind of supplement in some ways. And I 177 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: think that's where the Colts kind of viewed the way 178 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: that this transition is going to be at right tackle. 179 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know they knew that. You know, Brady Smith 180 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 4: of course contract was coming up, and you know it, 181 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: so you draft, you know, according to thinking that you 182 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 4: know what, if we do lose a guy like that, 183 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 4: we have someone hopefully that could step in. And you know, 184 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 4: Jalen Travis is that guy right now, and Braden Smith 185 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: has left and Travis has stepped in. Played last year 186 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 4: just a nice thing. So he got the development to 187 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 4: go out there and play and get his feet wet, 188 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 4: so to speak, against some actually NFL talent end games. 189 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 4: So that's good for him to have that experience. You know, 190 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 4: not a lot of experience, but he has experience. But 191 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 4: you look at the size of the man and what 192 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 4: he did last year, you feel pretty good going into 193 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 4: this season that you know what, he can be the 194 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: guy to step up and make some plays as far 195 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 4: as on the offensive line. And then also you know, 196 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 4: you talk about other guys that possibly left, you know, 197 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 4: Danny Pinner leaving and you have him gone, but you 198 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 4: know you have to try to replace someone like him. 199 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 4: But you also want guys that if you're going to 200 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 4: replace a guy like Danny Penner, you look at the 201 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 4: guy that plays center, but you want to replace, especially 202 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 4: the offensive line. You want to place the versatile offensive lineman, 203 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 4: guys that can play both maybe guarden center, or tackle 204 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 4: and guard or you know, whatever the combination is that 205 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: that person can play, because it helps you when you're 206 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 4: setting your lineup or setting your team up for going 207 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 4: in each game, who's going to be active, who's going 208 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 4: to be inactive, and you want enough guys that can 209 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 4: be able to play both positions just in case someone 210 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 4: gets hurt during the game. So I try to find 211 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 4: that versatile guy that can play a couple of positions, 212 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: and hopefully the Coaps can find that in the draft. 213 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we've seen Dalton Tucker and Josh Bills. 214 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: Those are a couple of guys interior that the Colts 215 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: do have still on that depth chart. But we'll be 216 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: anxious to kind of see what they do over this 217 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: last wave of free agency as we head into the 218 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: draft to see if they continue to add some depth 219 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: interior wise. Now it's time for the MJ. It's time 220 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: for the MJ Company's Rookie Report. And last year we 221 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: saw Jonathan Taylor have fifteen hundred plus yards. He played 222 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: in all seventeen games, so therefore the fifth round pick 223 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: and DJ Giddens it was almost like a red shirt season. 224 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 2: And you know, he played in just nine games with 225 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: just twenty six carries for ninety six yards. And he 226 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 2: also was kind of lost a little bit on the 227 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: depth chart behind a mir Abdullah and Tyler Goodson. Now 228 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: a mir Abdullah is a free agent. Tyler Goodson signed 229 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 2: with the Falcons, So I think we would both say 230 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: it's safe to say DJ Giddens will probably have a 231 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: bigger year heading into twenty twenty six. And if you 232 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: just look at the numbers, I mean Jonathan Taylor, I 233 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: don't think he appeared on the injury report all year. 234 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to jinx anything, but it's just 235 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: the nature of the business. Every now and then you're 236 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: gonna have to deal with something. So I would guess 237 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: if you play the numbers game, we'll see a little 238 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: bit more of DJ Giddens in year two. 239 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 4: I agree, I think you will see more of DJ Giddens, 240 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 4: and you know, he got his feet wet last year 241 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 4: and a lot of times coming in as a rookie, 242 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 4: it's a little difficult, especially when you are running back, 243 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 4: having to pick up protection and knowing all those different 244 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 4: things and coming out of the backsoo running routes and 245 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 4: of course it's running the ball, understanding blocking assignments and 246 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 4: things of that nature. So it's for him to get 247 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 4: his feet wet. I think was good for him, and 248 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 4: hopefully this year he picks up from where he left 249 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 4: off last year as far as in the growth aspect 250 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 4: of playing running back in the National Football League, and 251 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 4: he can be a valuable part for this offense to 252 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 4: hopefully you spell Jonathan Taylor sometimes once Jonathan Tailor needs 253 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 4: a blow. 254 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: There you go. That's your rookie update, presented by MJ Companies, 255 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: Your Future in Focus. The last word is brought to 256 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: you by vivid Seats. 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This is the Last Word 266 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: right here on ninety three five and one oh seven 267 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: five The Fan. 268 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Last Word, the offseason radio home 269 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 3: of the Indianapolis Colts from the Indiana Union Construction Industry 270 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: Radio Studio. 271 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: Back here on the Last Word ninety five, one oh 272 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 2: seven five The Fan Live from the Indiana Union Construction 273 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: Industry Radio Studios Bill Brooks on Ksey Valier. The Last 274 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: Word is brought to you by Meyer Meyers, the official 275 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: superstenter of the Indianapolis Colts and proud sponsor of one 276 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: hundred the local sports teams across the Midwest. It is 277 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: time for one of our favorite segments. Typically we do 278 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: this during the year, we're bringing it back for the offseason. 279 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: It's called the buck Stops. Here with former Colts tight 280 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 2: end and current radio analyst Charles R. Buckle, We're not 281 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: mess This. 282 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 5: Is when football becomes football, not all that other. In 283 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 5: April and. 284 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: May excuses won't work here. God bless America. 285 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: Guys, what are we doing? 286 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: It's time for some answers. 287 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: Just because they gave you a Pelman, it doesn't mean 288 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: you could play. 289 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: I need to see. 290 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 3: It's time for the buck stops here with former Colts 291 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: tight end and analyst Charles Rbuckle. 292 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: Charles, we're excited to have you back on here on 293 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: the airwaves. And the last time we talked to you 294 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: was at the NFL Combine, and at that point the 295 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: Colts did not have deals done with Daniel Jones or 296 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: Alec Pierce, but the flash forward to now clearly those 297 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: were the two among the top of the list to 298 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 2: bring back with the Colts heading into two down and 299 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: twenty six. 300 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with you. I think you know I'm 301 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 5: talking at the combine, that was one of the things 302 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 5: we were trying to figure out how they were going 303 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 5: to do it, and it didn't come together quite like 304 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 5: anybody expected, right, But I think the real key with 305 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 5: with Daniel Jones, you get away with a two year 306 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 5: deal and you know it's a lot of guaranteed money, 307 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 5: which you have to do now with quarterbacks, but it 308 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 5: still gives you a chance to say, if he's not 309 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 5: completely healthy or if it takes him a while to 310 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 5: overcome that injury. That's one piece I think with Alec Pierce, 311 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 5: he's just become such a key and important person. You 312 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 5: project now if he's able to catch eighty to ninety balls, 313 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 5: if that's the range, then then the numbers are going 314 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 5: to be there because of his ability to beat you 315 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 5: down the field and some of the deep, deep threat 316 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 5: things that he can do. I'll also say this, you know, 317 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 5: I think Nick Westbrook Akini. I'll get his name right 318 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 5: at some point, but I think that was a good 319 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 5: pick up along with LaQuan Treadwell. Treadwell played really well 320 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 5: on special teams. But I also think he can be 321 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 5: a guy that if you need him, he's still you know, 322 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 5: a former number one pick guy that has you know, 323 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 5: battled through the league and has been some places. I 324 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 5: think that was a good pick up to me to 325 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 5: help bolster the wide receiver room as well. 326 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: No, I would agree with that. I want to stick there. 327 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: You talk about Westbrook, Aikida being here and then also 328 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: la Quan Treadwell because you lose Michael Pittman, it was 329 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: you know, it's part of the business. Of the NFL, 330 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: and I mean, you know that all too well that 331 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it is a business. 332 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: But I'm glad you brought up both of those guys 333 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: because I'm not necessarily saying that one of them can 334 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: supplement that entire role. But you think about Ashton Doolan, 335 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,359 Speaker 2: Nick Westbrookakine and then also Lakwan Treadwell, you know, those 336 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: are some pieces guys that can kind of pick up 337 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: part of that role. And then you do throw in 338 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: Alec Pierce and the more target share you're expecting from him. 339 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: I think ultimately not necessarily saying you replaced Michael Pittman, 340 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: but you were able to find some pieces that I 341 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: think you can kind of find similar production combined with 342 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: those guys. 343 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 5: I also think you have to look at the tight 344 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 5: end position because Tyler Warren is taking some of those 345 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 5: balls that Michael Pittman used to have. Remember when you 346 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 5: would go across the middle and people would say, oh, 347 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 5: he's so tough, and he is. He's physical. That's a 348 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 5: physical presence. But Tyler Warren is only going to get 349 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 5: better in the second year, and Moley Cox has been 350 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 5: a consistent blocker. They want to probably use him in 351 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 5: the passing game ogal treat. So I think the tight position, 352 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 5: along with the bigger receivers kind of takes away what 353 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 5: you have in Pittman, and I agree with you that 354 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 5: allows you to throw the ball more than Alec Pierce, 355 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 5: but you still need that third if you know, third 356 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 5: and four, third and five, third and eight guy, and 357 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 5: generally that to me, it becomes your tight end position 358 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 5: or one of the bigger receivers. And Nick Westbrook Akini 359 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 5: really you know, the coach have seen him and he's 360 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 5: done some damage. He passed when he's played this Colts team. 361 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 5: So you know, I'm not saying, hey, any of those 362 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 5: guys are going to replace Pitt. I mean, you know, 363 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 5: I thought Pitt coming out of school. I liked him 364 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 5: a lot, even though he was a Trojan. I still 365 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 5: think he's one of the best. You know, But he's 366 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 5: just he's one of those guys man that just shows 367 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 5: up every week and if he can play, he's gonna 368 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 5: give you everything he has. He's a dog and a 369 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 5: run blocking scheme. That's why Jonathan Taylor would have some 370 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 5: of those home run plays. So I hope they can 371 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 5: manufacture that. But I do think if I look at 372 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 5: what Shane likes to do with this offense, that tight 373 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 5: end position and the bigger receivers can kind of replace that, 374 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 5: and you still have the other things that you need 375 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 5: in this offense. 376 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: Now, Charles, I kind of want to dive into the 377 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: former player with you, with Michael Pittman, because, like I said, 378 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 2: you know the business of the NFL, and sometimes this 379 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: is just part of it. But you think about Michael Pittman, 380 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: a guy who's a former captain here. He is beloved 381 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: inside that locker room, he has you know the outside. 382 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: You know what he did in the community of Indianapolis. 383 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: I mean he made Indianapolis his home with the farm 384 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: and everything. How difficult is that from a player's perspective, 385 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: because you know these are your brothers. You go to 386 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 2: battle with these guys every day, and then now all 387 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 2: of a sudden, a guy like that, who is such 388 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: a big part of what the Colts have done over 389 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: the last handful of years, is no longer there. 390 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 5: I always tell people, it's very few people that walk 391 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 5: away from this game on their own accord, and that's 392 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 5: been some of the greatest that I've ever played, right, 393 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 5: I mean, I can remember growing up as an Earl 394 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 5: Campbell fan and watching him struggle in New Orleans under 395 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 5: Bomb Phillips because it was not right watching him. Now, 396 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 5: Michael Pittman is a different point in his career. But 397 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 5: I always tell people, I don't care if you're a 398 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 5: Hall of Famer, I don't care if you're the best 399 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 5: I ever played. This game is not really loyal to us, 400 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 5: and so you got to do everything you can and 401 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 5: squeeze out every ounce that you can. And I think 402 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 5: Pittman this is great for him because Pittsburgh needs a 403 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 5: receiver that can play and do those things. Now, the 404 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 5: folks in Indianapolis, this is what I always say about them. 405 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 5: If you play hard and you give your honest effort, 406 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 5: and you show up every day and you go in 407 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 5: the community, which that community wants to embrace you from 408 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 5: day one. That's why it's the second home to me. 409 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 5: Because I played four years. I didn't start every game. 410 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 5: I got like ten starts in my career. I played 411 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 5: quite a bit, played on special teams. But people appreciate that. 412 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 5: That's the hard hat mentality that they have in Indianapolis. 413 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 5: And I think that's why no matter what happens and 414 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 5: if he comes back and plays in that stadium. They're 415 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 5: gonna give him a round of applause, and they're gonna 416 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 5: boo him if he catches a touchdown, right, So when 417 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 5: he first comes out, they're gonna cheer for him because 418 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 5: that's that's the mentality of the people. They're hard working, honest, 419 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 5: you know factory. I mean, you think of Indy. I 420 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 5: think about all the people that I just used to 421 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 5: meet there that were you know, workers that you know, 422 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 5: National Starts or any of the trucking companies or any 423 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 5: I mean, it was just those I loved it because 424 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 5: they had that lunch tell mentality and they wanted you 425 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 5: to do that every single day you stepped on the field. 426 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 5: And I think that's the part to me that people 427 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 5: will appreciate about Michael Pittman, even though he's gone. And 428 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 5: the guys in the locker room though that because he 429 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 5: was a great locker room guy. 430 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Charles R. Buckle were joined here on the buck 431 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 2: stops here now a similar mold there. Defensively, the Colts 432 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: traded away Zai or Franklin had a very similar impact 433 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: with Michael Pittman, a guy that was a you know, 434 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: one of the leaders on that defense but this is 435 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: kind of a bigger picture thing at the linebacker spot 436 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 2: because you know, Zire Franklin no longer here, Jermaine Pratt 437 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: is a free agent. The Colts did sign a Keeam 438 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 2: Davis Gaither, the guy who has experienced with Lou and Arumo. 439 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: But as far as bringing back that production and the 440 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: snap counts and the starts that you had at linebacker, clearly, 441 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: I think one of the topics we talked about at 442 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: the combine was the importance of hitting on linebacker the draft. 443 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 2: Would you say that's probably the biggest need the Colts 444 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: have on defense heading into. 445 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 5: The draft without a doubt. I mean, because here's the thing. 446 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 5: I thought, Jermaine Pratt and his as I here did 447 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 5: a really good job. But Jermaine only played twelve games, 448 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 5: had one hundred and one tackles. There were times in 449 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 5: coverage where you know, he wasn't as good as he 450 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 5: was when he was younger, but he was still on 451 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 5: a new team making plays, and I mean you got 452 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 5: to give him a lot of credit for what he 453 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 5: was able to do. I think also to the pickup 454 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 5: from Arizona, a Keen Davis Kate, there is going to 455 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 5: be your ideal pickup for this team because that's what 456 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 5: they're looking for. They wanted to get younger, they wanted 457 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 5: the guy that can, you know, move and do all 458 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 5: of those things. And he was a former Bengal like 459 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 5: Jermaine and had one hundred and seventeen tackles last year 460 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 5: one interception. So I think what you do there is 461 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 5: I'm surprised they haven't signed your main PP back, but 462 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 5: I think that that's what's going on now with the 463 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 5: scouts talking about, hey, look at all these linebackers. I 464 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 5: think you have linebackers that are so deep in this 465 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 5: draft that you're going to go into the third round 466 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 5: still seeing some guys that were like Man, I thought 467 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 5: he would go higher because it's just such a good 468 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 5: group of linebackers coming out this year, and I think 469 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 5: the Colts are looking at that to say we can 470 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 5: add someone just like we did with Tyler Warren. Maybe 471 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 5: not a first round pick, but that second round pick 472 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 5: to me or even lower second or third, because they 473 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 5: have picks now to move up or down to get 474 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 5: in position to get someone that's available there. Because there 475 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 5: are a lot of good linebackers, whether you're Night, Sam Will, 476 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 5: whatever you are, they have that in this draft, and 477 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 5: I think that's what the Colts are going to I 478 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 5: would be shocked if they don't pick a linebacker in 479 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 5: the second round. 480 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 2: Now, when you think about the way lou Anarumo kind 481 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: of runs his defense, it's more of that back to 482 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 2: front style, and you know, you can see his fingerprints 483 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 2: all over it clearly the importance of the cornerback spot, 484 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 2: and then especially what you got out of camp buying 485 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 2: him last year at that safety position, that is an 486 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: area that might give you a little bit more you know, 487 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: resting easy at night when you think about Sauce Gardner, Mooney, Ward, 488 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: Kennymore cam Bine them. I mean that right there, as 489 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 2: far as your secondary goes, is pretty impressive. And you know, 490 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: especially when you think about the impact those players have 491 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: in typically early in the draft. Not having that first 492 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 2: round pick, I think Sauce Gardner on Friday morning is 493 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: going to be the best first round pick acquired by 494 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 2: any team. 495 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 5: I think you're right. I mean, I think that's the 496 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 5: one thing you look at. Saft Gardner was the first 497 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 5: round pick in this draft basically for the cold right 498 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 5: and with his health being really critical and key, that 499 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 5: to me is going to be a good thing. I 500 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 5: think the one thing that I knew, Nick Cross was 501 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 5: potentially a guy that may not stick around, and I 502 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 5: like Nick. I thought he did a really nice plan. 503 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 5: A lot of snap was physical. Hunter Waller was one 504 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 5: of the guys that I think people thought would have 505 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 5: a chance to play and got hurt, and I think 506 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 5: there was one other young man early and the you know, 507 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 5: that's the key to me with safety. If you're gonna 508 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 5: play it the way the Colts like to play it, 509 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 5: you're gonna need three or four of those guys as 510 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 5: we saw last year, right, And I think that's what 511 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 5: I'm interested to see what they do there from a 512 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 5: draft perspective, but also, you know, still there's still a 513 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 5: little bit of free agency available, so I'm curious to 514 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 5: see how that goes. Jonathan Owens was sign you know, 515 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 5: the guy that didn't play a whole lot, but still 516 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 5: had some starts with the Bears, right, you know. So 517 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 5: I'm just curious to see how that looks for them 518 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 5: as far as the battle for the safety position, especially 519 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 5: if Waller can come back, because I thought he was 520 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 5: playing really well and there was gonna be a lot 521 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 5: of snaps for him last year and he fit perfectly 522 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 5: with what lou was looking for that secondary. 523 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 2: Now, final thing with Charles, we talk about all the 524 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: moves the Colts have made in free agency, and it's 525 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: definitely been a heavy emphasis on defense, but I still 526 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 2: feel like when you look at the draft, that is 527 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 2: probably where they're going to lean a little more heavy 528 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: as well. Would you agree with that that there's still 529 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: some defensive holes, maybe not holes, but depth and some 530 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: impact players early in that draft that the Colts need 531 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 2: to address. 532 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so. I mean I think the defensive 533 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 5: tackle position they got Naughty Artillery and Holby Wooden, which 534 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 5: are all good. I think Kobe Wooden is one of 535 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 5: those underrated guys, and then Naughty has done a nice 536 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 5: job where he's been in Jerry Tillery I can remember 537 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 5: him even in college. So you've got now some depth 538 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 5: and you know you're looking at more than guys that 539 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 5: are just campt bodies. So I think that's key. The 540 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 5: ads position, arden Key was a big pickup for him 541 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 5: because I think he finally started playing up to his potential. 542 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 5: But it's just going to be interesting to see what 543 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 5: they do on the defense and where else are they 544 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 5: looking besides linebacker. I think there's still some thing. Maybe 545 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 5: it's a safety because in talking to a lot of 546 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 5: the folks from the draft perspective, there's some really good safeties. 547 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 5: The safety position is just like the the linebacker position, 548 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 5: So there could be some thought that they could go 549 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 5: after some strong safeties and even a free safety, just 550 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 5: to make sure that, you know, because Lou likes to 551 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 5: play those guys either way, and sometimes he likes to 552 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 5: play free safeties. So I wouldn't be shocked if we 553 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 5: see that still happen and they still look at someone 554 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 5: on the from the defensive backfield, especially to make sure 555 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 5: that you are a short up. And this Dan Aid 556 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 5: and the way things happen now, man, it's just so crazy. 557 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 5: You know. The other guy was thinking about was Daniel Scott, 558 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 5: who had not been able to play. They've been high 559 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 5: on them but just kept getting hurt. So between he 560 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 5: and Hunter Waller, I think that's going to be interesting 561 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 5: to see. But also what they do in the draft 562 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 5: in the third, fourth round, maybe even the second round. 563 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Now, Charles, it's spring break time and you you 564 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: happen to call an area where a lot of people 565 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: go for spring break home, So what's a guy like 566 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: you do for spring break now where everybody's coming to 567 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: your area. 568 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 5: I try to get out on the golf course a 569 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 5: little bit. I try to take my bad swing and 570 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 5: get outside and swing it a little bit, because hey, 571 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 5: look the thing is, my kids are so much older now, 572 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 5: they're adults, so you know, there's no spring break for me, 573 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 5: and I try to get away from all the craziness 574 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 5: that's in town when when spring break happens, the golf 575 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 5: course is a good refugee refuge for that. Even though 576 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 5: I don't get any better the more i'm out there. 577 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, you and me both, I play enough of it 578 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: and I still cannot get any better. I don't understand 579 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: this game. 580 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 5: Look, it's one of those games that it allows you 581 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 5: to be outside, but it can frustrate the heck out 582 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 5: of the Trust me, I know exactly what you mean. 583 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: You ain't kidding there. 584 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 5: It's funny. 585 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: I have buddies that fish and fishing bores me. But 586 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: they're like, but it's outdoors, and you're all that. I'm like, 587 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: you know what, I prefer this to be frustrated on 588 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 2: the golf course, then go fish. So that's kind of 589 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: where I am. I'm right there with you on the 590 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: golf course. 591 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 5: Well, the other thing right now too is with all 592 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 5: you know, the USLA got knocked out, so the women 593 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 5: are still in. I got to see them when I 594 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 5: was back in Indy for the Big Ten Championships, so 595 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 5: I'm kind of keeping an eye on that. And the 596 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 5: you know, Sweet sixteen is gonna be great, and then 597 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,479 Speaker 5: you guys have the final four there in Indianapolis. Right. 598 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 5: You can't ask for anything more. 599 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 2: Absolutely it is. It is starting to turn finally, the 600 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: weather's getting a little nicer. We've got, you know, the 601 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: end of this college basketball run, and then before we 602 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 2: know it, we'll be uh, we're rejoining talking about the 603 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: Colts and the Draft Cup coming and you'll be with 604 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 2: us for that. So I can't wait for that, Charles. 605 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: So if we don't see you before then you know, 606 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: safe travels and we get back to Indy. But always 607 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 2: good to talk to you, and we'll talk to you 608 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: real soon. 609 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 5: All right, Kasey, you have a good one. You'll take care. 610 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 2: It's time for another time out and we come back. 611 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: We're gonna give you the Forum Credit Union Question of 612 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: the Week, which centers around the topics being discussed at 613 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: the upcoming NFL Owners meetings in Arizona. That's all coming 614 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: up next right here in the Last Word ninety three 615 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 2: five and one oh seven five The Fan, We now. 616 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 3: Returned to the offseason radio home of the Indianapolis Colts. 617 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 3: The Last Word from the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio. 618 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: Final time here on the Last Word brought to buy 619 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 2: Vivid Seats. Vivid Seats is the official fan experienced partner 620 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: of the Indianapolis Colts. Down only the apt to score 621 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: great deals on the events that you love, Bill Books, 622 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 2: Casey Value here inside the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio 623 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: Studios on ninety three five and one oh seven to 624 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: five The Fan, And it's time for the Forum Credit 625 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: Union Question of the Week, which centers around the NFL 626 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: annual League Owners Meetings that come in Phoenix. And this 627 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: year we have just a couple proposals. Typically there are 628 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: a handful of them no rule changes. This year. The 629 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: two proposals that have come out of it. The Cleveland 630 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 2: Browns are proposing a rule change that would allow NFL 631 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: teams to trade draft picks five years into the future 632 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: instead of just three the way it is now, and 633 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: the other one coming from the Steelers concerning NFL team's 634 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: abilities to contact players during the free agent negotiating period. 635 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: They propose to make it a permanent of the team's 636 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 2: ability to conduct up to five phone or video calls 637 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: directedly with players on teams during the two day free 638 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: agent negotiating period before the official start of the league year, 639 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: which is something the NFL allowed on a trial basis 640 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: this year. So bill of those proposals, I think the 641 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: free agent one is the most interesting, if I have 642 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: to call. 643 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 4: It, yeah, it is. It is the one that's most 644 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 4: interesting to me because I think a free agency in 645 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 4: the period and you have this window where you can 646 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 4: negotiate before the league year starts and things like that, 647 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 4: Let's just make it whenever it starts, it starts. 648 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: You can negotiate with whoever. 649 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 4: You want, not just five phone calls or five video 650 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 4: calls or talk to the agent or talk to the player. 651 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 4: You can talk to the agent or the player and 652 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 4: start the negotiating right there, and let free agencies start 653 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 4: right there. Whenever you start. Let's not give windows. Let's 654 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 4: just go right into it and let's get on with it. 655 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: I've always thought it's it's ironic that it's called the 656 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: legal tampering. Tampering that does not that should never be 657 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: in the same phrase together. So if it's tampering, it's illegal, 658 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: you're telling it's legal. Let's just I'm right there with you. 659 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: Just to start. Let's just start start this thing and 660 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 2: go on with it. Yes, it's similar to like the 661 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: NBA at the draft, when there's a guy that's already 662 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 2: been traded, yet he's forced to put on the hat 663 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: knowing he's not. Come on, Let's just come on, let's 664 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: just get on with it. So I'm right there with you. 665 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 5: Bill. 666 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: There is one other thing I do want to just mention. 667 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily need to think we need to dive 668 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: into it because nothing concrete right now. But the NFL's 669 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: collective bargaining agreement with the NFL Referees Association is due 670 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: to expire at the end of May, so that is 671 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: something that could possibly turn into a story if they 672 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 2: can't agree upon a new deal. The last time this 673 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: happened was back in twenty twelve, which the league was 674 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: forced to hire replacement officials. It lasted over one hundred days. 675 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: It even trickled into the first three weeks of the 676 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: regular season, So that is something to keep an eye 677 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: on on whether or not this I think it's been 678 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 2: floated out there a handful of times with the full 679 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 2: time officiating and all of that stuff. We'll see if 680 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 2: the you know, the Referee Referees Association in the NFL 681 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: could come up to an agreement and not have to 682 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: trickle into the season. But definitely keep an eye on it. 683 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely keep an eye on that because that's important. 684 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 4: Having referees out there and having the referees that know 685 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 4: how to refere the referee the professional game is going 686 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 4: to be very important for you know, the players and 687 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 4: for the fans as well, I mean, and for the 688 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 4: safety of the players and the game itself. So it's 689 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 4: going to be important for hopefully they can get something 690 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 4: done where things can work out where you have the 691 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 4: referees able to start from day one. 692 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: Well, Colts fans out there, you can visit the forum 693 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 2: credit Union fanforum section of Colts dot com to interact 694 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 2: with other fans online. You can post a topic and 695 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: participate in various discussions regarding the Colts Forum credit Union 696 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: helping members live their financial dreams. That is all the 697 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 2: time we have for you Billy Brooks, well done, Thank 698 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: you so much for Thank you for carrying me, Casey. 699 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 700 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 4: I know you guys sore back, I'll get you a 701 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 4: gift certificate to a chiropractor. 702 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 2: Hey, well, thank you. Hey, you know me, I've never 703 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 2: done it, so maybe I'll give it a try. My 704 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: back is a little sore, but I think it's just 705 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: because I'm thirty six. Now, you know, you get a 706 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: year older. That's all it is. Ye're young bunch. 707 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 4: You're a young bunk. 708 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 2: At times I don't feel that way. I think it's 709 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: from all those years of catching. It's kind of making 710 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: the whole body to start to shut down. But I 711 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: do appreciate you helping me out today. It was a 712 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: lot of fun. So we'll do this again real soon. 713 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: But up next it is Pacer pregame as the Pacers 714 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 2: host the Los Angeles Clippers inside Gamebridge Fieldhouse. But for 715 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: Bill Brooks some Casey value. Thanks a lot for joining 716 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: us here on the Last Word on ninety three five 717 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: and one oh seven five The Fan