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Speaker 1: shut us up. This is Verdict with Ted Cruise. Welcome

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Speaker 1: It's great to be with you and several hundred of

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Speaker 1: They said, on Friday, October eighth, at Jacksonville, there was

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Speaker 1: were scheduled to come in that day. Three came in,

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Speaker 1: and Southwest has an enormous percentage of its flights going

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Speaker 1: the other airlines used the hub and spoke system. So

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Speaker 1: I live in Houston. Houston's a hub for United, so

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Speaker 1: we get lots of United flights that end up in

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Speaker 1: Houston or Chicago or other hubs. Southwest doesn't have hubs,

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Speaker 1: so its planes are all over. And what Southwest has

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Speaker 1: said is that when air traffic shut down, the consequence

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Speaker 1: of that is it stranded a bunch of its planes,

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Speaker 1: and stranded a bunch of its pilots, and it stranded

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Speaker 1: a bunch of its crews. Now what's interesting is the

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Speaker 1: Biden White House refuses to answer the question. It's a

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Speaker 1: very simple factual question. Is it true or is it

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Speaker 1: false that on Friday, October eighth there was a sick

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Speaker 1: ind at the jan at the Jacksonville Air Traffic Control

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Speaker 1: facility where the vast majority of the controllers stayed home

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Speaker 1: because of the vaccine mandate. And the reason they don't

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Speaker 1: want to answer it, based on what sources are telling

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Speaker 1: me and Aviation is because that is absolutely true, right

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Speaker 1: and on these mandates which are really on a lot

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Speaker 1: of people's minds, not just for the economy, but because

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Speaker 1: they want to have some control over their own medical decisions.

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Speaker 1: There is the issue of the federal government saying federal

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Speaker 1: employees need to get the vaccine. So that is a

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Speaker 1: direct mandate. And then there is the bizarre byzantine sort

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Speaker 1: Administration to instruct companies with more than one hundred employees

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Speaker 1: to instruct their employees to get the vaccine, where there

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Speaker 1: will be fines. But we don't even really know how

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Speaker 1: that will be implemented. So it's it's more a threat

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Speaker 1: along with this. Some companies, like my company, The Daily Wire,

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Speaker 1: is not going along with this. And so in a way,

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Speaker 1: there you can blame Biden because Biden was the one

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Speaker 1: who started it all. But some companies could just stand

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Speaker 1: up and say no, we're not going to do this.

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Speaker 1: You're right, and look there's a spectrum of orders coming

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Speaker 1: from the White House. Now listen my view and vaccines'

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Speaker 1: real quick as an aside, I'm pro vaccine. I've been vaccinated,

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Speaker 1: my family's been vaccinated. I think it is an amazing

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Speaker 1: technological accomplishment that Operation Warped Speed produced multiple vaccines in

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Speaker 1: record time, cutting through massive PaperWorks. I think that's fantastic

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Speaker 1: and I was glad to take the vaccine because I

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Speaker 1: wanted to get back out and around and with people,

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Speaker 1: and I was tired of the damn lockdowns that these

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Speaker 1: numbskull politicians were putting in place. But I also believe

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Speaker 1: in individual liberty, individual responsibility. Look, everyone here are adults.

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Speaker 1: You have the right to make your own choice about

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Speaker 1: what healthcare you're going to get. You have the right

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Speaker 1: to make your own choice talking to your doctor. If

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Speaker 1: you want to get the vaccine, God bless you make

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Speaker 1: that decision. If you don't, that's your right too. You know, though,

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Speaker 1: to play Devil's advocate Senator, that lady who ran out

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Speaker 1: of ear screaming, I'm not sure that she can make

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Speaker 1: her own decisions. I don't know. There are a lot

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Speaker 1: of people who you need some maturity to be able

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Speaker 1: to I don't know, I don't know. I will say

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Speaker 1: the problem with liberals is their masks aren't tight enough.

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Speaker 1: We need to add a few more. You know, we

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Speaker 1: do have a lot of mature, serious people in this audience.

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Speaker 1: We want to hear from them, We want to answer

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Speaker 1: their questions. So would you mind, can we take some

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Speaker 1: questions from the audience with up you all right, Can

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Speaker 1: we bring our friend Liz Wheeler back out? All right,

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot of people here lining up to

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Speaker 1: ask these questions. We I hope have some answers for them.

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Speaker 1: This is our absolute favorite part of the show. Be sure,

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Speaker 1: if you have not already, subscribe to The Verdict podcast

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Speaker 1: on Apple, podcast, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Play, wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcasts. So, Michael, while we're waiting for everything to

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Speaker 1: get set up, set up, I'm gonna ask is it

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Speaker 1: gonna be like mail bag on the podcast typically where

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Speaker 1: you get a question from some one Giuseppi, who asked,

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Speaker 1: how come Michael is so handsome and so wise? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, look, I think some of those people ask

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Speaker 1: very good questions. So I hope that we get them

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Speaker 1: here tonight. If you see me putting on a fake

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Speaker 1: mustache and running behind, maybe that that would explain how

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Speaker 1: it happens. We have our friend Liz Wheeler here, let's

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Speaker 1: bring her out and let's take some questions. Well, that

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Speaker 1: was a great show. This is a great show. I

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Speaker 1: was entertained. Thank you, you laughed, you cried, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: get us. A lot of people did. So we're about

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Speaker 1: to get these questions. But first, Liz, what are you

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Speaker 1: if that's all right. And my question to you is,

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Speaker 1: if you see right here we have this hat and

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Speaker 1: it is adorned with a lovely cactus. I don't get

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Speaker 1: the joke. Could you please explain that to us? Liz?

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Speaker 1: Do you you don't know about the third co host

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Speaker 1: of this podcast, our trusty sidekick, the cactus? Do you

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Speaker 1: not the real truth? Cactus? And I gotta say I

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Speaker 1: was complaining to Michael today as we've got now these

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Speaker 1: really am offended to be upstaged by a cactus. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know that it was unfortunate. You know it very humbling.

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Speaker 1: I think, Senator, you came out really strong your first podcast.

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Speaker 1: It hits number one within a couple of weeks, and

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Speaker 1: so we just want to keep you humble. And that's

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Speaker 1: why it seems that all of this merchandise has the

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Speaker 1: cactus on. I mean, I don't want to hurt y'all's feelings,

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Speaker 1: but it's not your face on this hat. It's not

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Speaker 1: well That's why people aware it's right. So I'm very

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Speaker 1: excited to announce tonight that you can acquire one of

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Speaker 1: these hats, and not just one. If you go to

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Speaker 1: Verdict with ted Cruise dot com, it slash shop and

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Speaker 1: you use that promo code that I talked to you

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Speaker 1: about before live, you can get ten percent off all

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Speaker 1: kinds of crazy cactus gear, all kinds of crazy. I

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Speaker 1: don't really want to hold this for the rest of

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Speaker 1: the show. Does anybody? Does anybody want this? Can? We?

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Speaker 1: Can we hear anybody want this pact us at Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm not throwing it, so okay, okay, if you can

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Speaker 1: hand it up to him. You know what they say,

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Speaker 1: Enthusiasm wins every time. Enthusiasm wins every time. All right,

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Speaker 1: are we ready for some live Q and A. All right,

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Speaker 1: the first thing you're gonna do is introduce yourself. My

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Speaker 1: name is Will Terry. I'm from Kacano, Wisconsin, moved down

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Speaker 1: to Madison to work at the state Legislature. Highly revere

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Speaker 1: you ever since your twenty sixteen campaign. While I certainly

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Speaker 1: can't agree with every single thing that you advocate for,

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Speaker 1: but I appreciate the opportunity to have this question. So,

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Speaker 1: for two decades, and the American white population has declined

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Speaker 1: three million people since his last consensus. What plan, if any,

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Speaker 1: does a Republican in either chamber have to create a

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Speaker 1: sustainable fertility rate in America. Wow. So that's a very

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Speaker 1: good question, and it's a detailed and complex question. And

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Speaker 1: I'd say several things. First of all, with what the

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Speaker 1: lives have been taken in abortion, and this would be

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Speaker 1: a much richer, a much more varied, a much more

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Speaker 1: and had we reaped the benefits of their lives. Um.

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Speaker 1: I'd also say, more broadly, some of it is the

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Speaker 1: consequence of prosperity, that that that you see with prosperity,

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Speaker 1: you look at a degrarian society where where if you

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Speaker 1: were on the farm, you needed kids because you needed farmhands,

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Speaker 1: you needed people to work work on the farm, and

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Speaker 1: kids were an engine of production. And as we've gotten

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Speaker 1: more prosperous people are not looking looking for their kids

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Speaker 1: necessarily to drive the plow um. There is also a

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Speaker 1: our children. Are additional kids a good or bad thing?

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Speaker 1: You know? You look at the Malthusian hypothesis that that

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Speaker 1: that every child being born is a bad thing. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think that is terrible and false. And I think

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Speaker 1: every child is is is magnificent as an opportunity, as

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Speaker 1: a benefit, is productive. And there is a difference between

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Speaker 1: left and right. So is it government's job to say

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Speaker 1: think it's government's job to say that. It's up to

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Speaker 1: you to make that decision in your life. But I

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Speaker 1: do think we ought to have number one policies from

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Speaker 1: the government that are conducive to families. So, for example,

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't be the case that if a man and

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Speaker 1: government is disincentivizing their forming a family. I think we

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Speaker 1: ought to have an environment where kids are celebrated and welcomed.

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Speaker 1: And also part of that is where kids can have

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Speaker 1: where even regardless of their economic circumstances, they can have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to prosper. But you are right that without kids,

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Speaker 1: any society has no future. And you know you're so right, Senator,

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Speaker 1: to mention this Malthusian delusion on the left, this idea

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Speaker 1: going to die from over a population. There was a

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Speaker 1: book came out in nineteen seventy by Paul Arelik, a

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Speaker 1: still admired in some corners and still honored scientist that

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Speaker 1: was just completely bogus, and it was called the Population Bomb.

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Speaker 1: It said that within a decade or two there were

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Speaker 1: going to be famines. It was inevitable. You would need

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Speaker 1: more abortion, more contraception, and if people wouldn't do it voluntarily,

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Speaker 1: you had to force it. And actually a lot of

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Speaker 1: this work was used in countries that did this, India

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Speaker 1: and notably in China, and it was completely false. Since

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Speaker 1: that time, the world population has doubled, we are fatter

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Speaker 1: than ever, malnutrition is at an all time low. And

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Speaker 1: so I think your answer is totally right, Senator. The

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Speaker 1: gentleman's answer was totally right. Un abortion, and it's a

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Speaker 1: very serious issue. By the way, even beyond the issue

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Speaker 1: of birthrates, you mentioned the black birthrate. Well, a statistic

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Speaker 1: black babies were aborted than we're born. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: a terrifying statistic. Or and you mentioned the other birthrates

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Speaker 1: as well, but it's beyond that. Think about how the

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Speaker 1: average life expectancy has actually declined in recent years, also

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Speaker 1: because of deaths of despair. I mean that that is

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Speaker 1: a big national problem. I think, as as everyone has said,

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Speaker 1: it's really important to focus on that because if we

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Speaker 1: have a country. We need to have people, and we

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Speaker 1: need to have people who are excited about growing that country. Well,

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Speaker 1: and let me make two additional points. It's a good question,

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Speaker 1: and were we should get our answers shorter than this,

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Speaker 1: But well, we'll do a speed round for the beginning

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Speaker 1: of twenty people. You shouldn't come to a gathering of

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Speaker 1: a radio host and a lawyer and politician and expect

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Speaker 1: short answers. But two more observations you were talking about

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Speaker 1: about African American fertility rates. You know, some of the

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Speaker 1: most horrifying things to read are are the writings of

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Speaker 1: Margaret Sanger, who was the founder of Planned Parenthood and

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Speaker 1: was a unrepentant eugenicist and wrote horrible things advocating for

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Speaker 1: widespread abortion precisely because she wanted to see more African

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Speaker 1: American children aborted. And it's it's it is a horrifying

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Speaker 1: history behind the aggressive push for locating abortion clinics in

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Speaker 1: communities where I'm not going to use the term she

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Speaker 1: used to describe those children, but but they were horrific

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Speaker 1: and evil those terms that she used. And what I'd

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Speaker 1: say also than that you you know, Michael used the

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Speaker 1: word inevitable and and it reminded me of one of

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Speaker 1: the podcasts that caused the biggest stir is You and

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Speaker 1: I like to mess around in pop culture, and we

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Speaker 1: pointed out how when when Hollywood does environmentalists, whether in

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Speaker 1: The Watchmen or in Avenger's Endgame, that that that environmentalist

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Speaker 1: or these Malthusian psychopaths, and you take thanos so and

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Speaker 1: by the way, people flipped out, is it thanos thanos

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Speaker 1: I don't know whatever, it's the big guy with the

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Speaker 1: giant sword. But but you look at his whole hypothesis,

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Speaker 1: which was the Malthusian hypothesis. There are too many people,

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Speaker 1: they're consuming our resources. Therefore I'm going to snap and

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Speaker 1: murder half of the living beings on planet Earth. That

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Speaker 1: is the radical left view of people and online, the

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Speaker 1: sort of Hollywood world freaked out that we pointed out

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Speaker 1: how absurd this, this anti human life view of the

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Speaker 1: radical left was. Yeah, yeah, really really excellent point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: about you guys, but the way that I heard that

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Speaker 1: answer was as Michael as the good Catholic man, that

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Speaker 1: he should continue to be fruitful and multiply. So that's

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Speaker 1: how that's how I heard it. Michael. Let's try to

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Speaker 1: keep these answers as succinct as possible so that we

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Speaker 1: can get as many questions in as we possibly can.

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Speaker 1: Introduce speed round. Um. Hello, I'm Samantha Givich. I'm a

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Speaker 1: student at UW Madison. I'm a freshman studying political science

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Speaker 1: and minoring in public policy. UM. My questionnaire today is

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Speaker 1: I'm going to keep it to the content they had

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Speaker 1: in the podcast is much of your message today was

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Speaker 1: about the other side. I am personally democratic leaning, and um,

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Speaker 1: how they're doing everything wrong, how they're yelling at you,

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Speaker 1: how that girl ran out obviously speaking vulgar language, which

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with. I think it's much productive to

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Speaker 1: speak this way. But at the same time, and not

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Speaker 1: to insult you. Um you came out saying like these

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Speaker 1: idiom idiots are making us wear these masks, like all

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Speaker 1: these things and shouting out insults and compromising the integrity

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Speaker 1: of the university. And I just want I think my

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Speaker 1: question is more broad about your party in general, because

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Speaker 1: that's why we're here. Is are you willing if you

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Speaker 1: is your message so important? Are you willing to compromise,

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Speaker 1: like where are these faced diapers in order to put

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Speaker 1: this message out that you think is so important, so

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Speaker 1: more people are accessible, so it's more accessible to more people.

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Speaker 1: Or are you is your message solely to oppose the

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Speaker 1: other side and keep it to the people that agree

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Speaker 1: with you? Good question, So, Samith, that's a very good question.

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Speaker 1: Let let me start by just thanking you for being here,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having an open mind and coming. Even

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Speaker 1: though you said your your political leanings are different than ours.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate. I think we need to be having more

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Speaker 1: of a conversation we ought to be. One of the

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Speaker 1: problems today is the two sides live in like parallel worlds,

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Speaker 1: and the right wing listens to right wing media, the

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Speaker 1: left wings listens to left wing media. We don't talk

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Speaker 1: to each other, we don't have shared facts, and we

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Speaker 1: believe these caricatures of each other that that are horrible,

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Speaker 1: and they're horrible on both sides. Um The way I

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Speaker 1: try to handle that it is, you know, I try

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Speaker 1: not to get nasty and personal and go after the

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Speaker 1: character of people who disagree with me. Now I'll disagree

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Speaker 1: with them on substance and listen, I'll try to have

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Speaker 1: some fun with it, and and and to make a joke,

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Speaker 1: as I think, different than going straight straight to and

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Speaker 1: saying they're horrible, evil people. I try on criticism to

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Speaker 1: keep it lighthearted. On the question of compromise, yes, look,

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Speaker 1: I think we absolutely should look for mental grounds. You

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Speaker 1: ask about wearing masks. To be honest, I'm embarrassing to

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Speaker 1: say I've got two masks in my pocket. I've got

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Speaker 1: a Texas flag mask, which is awesome, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I might just wear that for the fun of it.

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Speaker 1: And and then I have a Houston Rockets mask, which

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Speaker 1: shows that I'm really believing lost causes. But I'm a

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Speaker 1: die hard, die hard Rockets fan. You know, I flew up,

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Speaker 1: flew up from Houston today I wore a mask. You know.

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Speaker 1: My view on Let's take COVID as an example. I

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Speaker 1: think there were extremes on COVID on both sides that

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Speaker 1: didn't make any sense. So there were people who would

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Speaker 1: never wear a mask, never wear a vaccine, and personally

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with that. I particularly at the height

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Speaker 1: of the pandemic. You know, it made some sense to

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Speaker 1: wear a mask. I wasn't sure how effective it was

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Speaker 1: or not. But a year ago I was willing to

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Speaker 1: wear a mask, and it made some sense. Now I've

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Speaker 1: been vaccinated, and it seems to me a little bit

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Speaker 1: bizarre after you've been vaccinated, saying everyone has to wear

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Speaker 1: a mask and pretend the vaccine doesn't work. That logic

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Speaker 1: and science doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I

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Speaker 1: think we should be willing to find reasonable common grounds.

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Speaker 1: I think in COVID, for example, the politicians who shut

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Speaker 1: down millions of small businesses shut down restaurants, shut down bars,

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Speaker 1: shut down jim shut down stores and destroyed them. And

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Speaker 1: you know, people, if you have you know in Texas,

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Speaker 1: you'll have a family that's say a second or third

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Speaker 1: generation restaurant owner who their entire family's life work was destroyed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: politicians who shut down schools for a year, that hurt

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Speaker 1: a lot of kids. I don't think that made sense.

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Speaker 1: In my view, we should do reasonable common sense steps

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Speaker 1: to limit the spread of the disease. COVID is a

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Speaker 1: serious disease, particularly if you're elderly, particularly if you have

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Speaker 1: serious health issues. It can be fatal, and so I

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Speaker 1: think we should treat it seriously. But I absolutely agree

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Speaker 1: we ought to find reasonable common ground. I think most

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Speaker 1: people want to keep their families safe from disease, but

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Speaker 1: they also want to be able to go to work

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Speaker 1: and provide for their kids, and they like their kids

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Speaker 1: to go to school. And I think most Americans are

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Speaker 1: interested in that common ground. The political world is so

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Speaker 1: polarized and the media world is so polarized. We don't

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Speaker 1: have those conversations very often. That was a good answer.

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Speaker 1: I have nothing more to add to that. No live

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Speaker 1: owning or anything like that. It's really really really good question,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for coming. I really we'll appreciate. Hi, guys,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing. My name's THEO. I'm from Madison, Wisconsin. UM,

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Speaker 1: I work in the Madison State Capitol or Wisconsin State Capitol. Ironically,

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Speaker 1: the first question asker is actually my boss. I'm his intern,

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Speaker 1: so my question yeah, actually ironically it kind of is

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Speaker 1: building off of his question on birthrates and whatnot. So,

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Speaker 1: as we all know, yeah, I promise it's not it's

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Speaker 1: not planned. It's not planned. I didn't even know there's questions. So,

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Speaker 1: as we all know, the immigration policies of the Biden

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Speaker 1: administration have changed drastically from the administration previously, and with

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Speaker 1: the Haitian migrant caravan that transpired I don't know a

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Speaker 1: week or two weeks ago, I'm not sure. Popular conservative

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Speaker 1: pundits like Charlie Kirk and Tucker Carlson have been theorizing

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Speaker 1: something that people like Patrick Buchanan or a Jared Taylor

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Speaker 1: who runs American Renaissance have said in the past, which

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Speaker 1: is replacement theory or a demographic replacement. So I kind

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Speaker 1: of want not wanted to know what your guys's thoughts

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Speaker 1: were on the validity of that and how that is

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Speaker 1: becoming mainstream, and whether you think that it's the mass

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Speaker 1: immigration of the Democratic Party is solely for electoral reasons,

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Speaker 1: or if it is to change the demographics of America

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Speaker 1: and to displace the white majority of America. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think if you're asking the question, or do Democrats play

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Speaker 1: racial identity politics and say that, you know, straight white

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Speaker 1: guys are the worst people in the history of the world,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't think they would even disagree with

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Speaker 1: that they put They put that sort of thing in

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Speaker 1: the New York Times, But I think the question is

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Speaker 1: probably a little broader than that, right, I mean, they

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Speaker 1: it would seem to me in Senator you work with

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Speaker 1: these elected Democrats more more closely, you see them more

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Speaker 1: up close. But it seems to me quite clear that

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Speaker 1: what they want to do is win elections, and so

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Speaker 1: whatever the ethnic or racial, or sexual or geographic or

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Speaker 1: whatever they're going to do. And by the way, that's

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Speaker 1: just focusing on one aspect of the immigration issue, but

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Speaker 1: there are obviously many other strategies that they're pursuing as well.

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Speaker 1: But whatever it's going to take them to win those elections,

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Speaker 1: that's what they're out there to do, and so I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that is a conspiracy theory that Democrats

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Speaker 1: are willing to fight dirty and to win elections, is it? So? Look,

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Speaker 1: I am the son of a Cuban immigrants, and millions

802
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Speaker 1: of Democrats wanted to replace me with a rich white

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Speaker 1: guy named Beto Aurora. Um, wait on, he's not Spanish.

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Speaker 1: Are you sure he's got a name like Beto? You know?

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Speaker 1: It was amusing when he launched his campaign. His name

806
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Speaker 1: is Robert Francis and and and the the AP reported

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Speaker 1: when he launched his campaign that he gave his announcement

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Speaker 1: speech in his native tongue. And I couldn't help but

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Speaker 1: resist saying, really, I've never heard a speech in Gaelic.

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Speaker 1: I'm running to be the next senator from Texas, you know,

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Speaker 1: I have to say, since the Astros are about to

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Speaker 1: play the Red Sox, so you know you know that

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to to our going back to the

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Speaker 1: World series. UM, listen on your question. I don't buy

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Speaker 1: the racially charged nonsense that is in these discussions. UM.

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Speaker 1: I believe in immigration. UM. I have said many times

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Speaker 1: my view and immigration can be summed up in forwards,

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Speaker 1: legal good, illegal bad. You know, I represent the state

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Speaker 1: of Texas. We have twenty nine million people. We're seeing

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Speaker 1: firsthand the horrors of the Biden border crisis. I've been

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Speaker 1: down to the border over and over and over again,

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Speaker 1: when you've got one point three million people crossing the

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Speaker 1: border illegally. I've been to the Biden cages that are

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Speaker 1: filled with thousands of children. The last time I was

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Speaker 1: in the Rio Grand Valley, the rate of COVID positivity

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Speaker 1: in the Biden cages was over twenty four percent. I've

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Speaker 1: seen when I brought nineteen senators down to the Rio

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Speaker 1: Grand Valley and we went out on the river, we

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Speaker 1: saw an illegal immigrant floating dead in the river. I've

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Speaker 1: seen the dead bodies of the pregnant women that the

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Speaker 1: coyotes abandon in the desert heat. I've seen the little

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Speaker 1: girls and the little boys who are sexually assaulted and

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Speaker 1: physically assaulted by the vicious criminals who are trafficking them in.

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Speaker 1: And so there are lots of lies and politics, but

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Speaker 1: I think one of the biggest lies it is the

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Speaker 1: lie you hear from the media that the Democrats open

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Speaker 1: border policy is somehow compassionate. There is nothing compassionate about

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Speaker 1: a policy that has hundreds of thousands of children in

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Speaker 1: the custody of vicious human traffickers that are assaulting and

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Speaker 1: victimizing those kids. And so we ought to have a

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Speaker 1: system that welcomes, that celebrates legal immigrants. There is a

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Speaker 1: right way to come. You wait in line, you follow

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Speaker 1: the rules, you come to America, but you don't have

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Speaker 1: chaos at the border, which is what Joe Biden, Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris have given us. Hello, my name is Thomas, Thank

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Speaker 1: you mister Nelson, Senator Cruz for coming. One of my

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Speaker 1: brothers is modeling is Beard after you? So yeah, my

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Speaker 1: question is a bit tangential. I'm a really big fan

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Speaker 1: of comedy, and there's been a cultural trend toward, you know,

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Speaker 1: the buzzword cancel culture, and I'm wondering what exactly is

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Speaker 1: your interpretation of the line for cancel culture versus just

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Speaker 1: holding somebody accountable, Say the difference between Colin Kaepernick no

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Speaker 1: longer playing NFL because America is so oppressed if he

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Speaker 1: makes millions and sage the guy who James Dumore, who

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Speaker 1: was fired from Google because you send it a memo

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Speaker 1: saying men and women are biologically different. Where is the line,

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Speaker 1: and when does it become canceling? When is it just

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Speaker 1: holding someone accountable? When is it being sensitive? When is

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Speaker 1: it just having preferences. Look, that's a great question, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's a subtle and nuanced question. Um. You know

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Speaker 1: my view, as a general matter, we should not have

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Speaker 1: people being fired, uh for for expressing their political views. Now.

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Speaker 1: Now there are exceptions to that, and and one of

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Speaker 1: the exceptions is we have a right as consumers. So

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Colin Kaepernick. I don't like what Kaepernick said. Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he should be censored. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I don't think he should be silenced, but I'm not

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Speaker 1: interested in supporting him with his message of that to

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Speaker 1: me is disrespecting the American flag and as disrespecting the

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Speaker 1: men and women who fought to defend the flag in

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Speaker 1: our nation. Um, I don't think it's right that Kaepernick

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Speaker 1: is not a quarterback today because of his stance. To

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Speaker 1: be honest, his stance was embraced in the NFL because

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Speaker 1: they're such leftists. They loved it. And the guy is

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Speaker 1: making tens of millions of dollars from Nike right now.

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Speaker 1: He's not a quarterback because he wasn't that good a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and he had a tryout that was lousy. I will say,

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Speaker 1: by the way, it is clearly political discrimination that I'm

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Speaker 1: not an NFL quarterback. They don't like my views and

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Speaker 1: it's the only reason I'm not a starting quarterback. It's

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Speaker 1: cancel culture if you ask me. You know. Coincidentally, I

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Speaker 1: did just write a book on this very subject called speech.

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Speaker 1: Let's controlling or it's controlling minds. So thank that's very kind.

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Speaker 1: But thank since you know we're selling the Cactus Merged,

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Speaker 1: so I might as well mention this book. And I

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Speaker 1: think your question is really important. And Senator you make

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Speaker 1: a good point here, which is it's a subtle and

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Speaker 1: nuanced question. You know, I don't think that we as

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Speaker 1: conservatives are saying we have no standards at all whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: William F. Buckley Jr. When he launched the modern Conservative movement,

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Speaker 1: he did so with a book called God and Man

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Speaker 1: at Yale, The Superstitions of at Academic Freedom, in which

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Speaker 1: he mocked this extreme idea of academic freedom that the

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Speaker 1: left pretends to embrace, but they don't even really embrace.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't think anyone believes that if you

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Speaker 1: go to your water cooler and you make a zig

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Speaker 1: hile and you start reciting mind coomp that when you

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Speaker 1: lose your job, that is cancel culture, and we're all

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Speaker 1: supposed to cry about that. No, obviously, societies have limits.

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Speaker 1: There is going to be decorum. You know. The Left

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Speaker 1: tries to shut us up on certain things and says

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Speaker 1: you can't say certain things. Chivalry also suggests maybe you

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Speaker 1: shouldn't say certain things. And so the questions involved are one,

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Speaker 1: what should the government be involved in that's a procedural question,

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Speaker 1: and then to a substantive question, what is the good?

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Speaker 1: What do we want to have in our society, what

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Speaker 1: do we want to look up to, what do we

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Speaker 1: want to pursue, and what is really going to make

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Speaker 1: us free people? You know that that distinction that our

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Speaker 1: founding fathers found so important between liberty, true liberty and

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Speaker 1: li entiousness, you know, just pursuing your basest passions. And

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Speaker 1: so I agree with what you brought up and obviously

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Speaker 1: what you said, Senator that we need to take this

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Speaker 1: question in a much more serious way. And if that

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Speaker 1: means we can't dunk on the Libs quite as much,

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Speaker 1: so be it. But we want to be able to

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Speaker 1: move forward into a society that has a culture that

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Speaker 1: we can all really be proud of and live in. Well,

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Speaker 1: and let me give an example of the line drawing,

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Speaker 1: because I don't think it's just it's binary. State of

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Speaker 1: Tennessee has actually a state law that, as I understand,

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Speaker 1: it requires the governor every year to proclaim a Nathan

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Speaker 1: Bedford Forrest Day, celebrating Nathan Bedford Forrest. And the governor

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago did that. I saw that

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Speaker 1: and publicly said this is a mistake and you shouldn't

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Speaker 1: do it now. For those of you who don't know

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Speaker 1: who Nathan Bedford Forest was, he was a Civil War general,

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Speaker 1: but he was also a slave trader, and he was

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Speaker 1: the founder of the ku Klux Klan. And I said,

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Speaker 1: this is absurd that we are celebrating this man, the

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Speaker 1: ku Klux Klan as a force for evil, and we

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Speaker 1: should not be celebrating him. And you know, some folks

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Speaker 1: came back and said, well, cruizer being unrealistic, because state

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Speaker 1: law requires a proclamation about him. I said, all right,

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Speaker 1: if I were governor of Tennessee, you want to see

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Speaker 1: a proclamation about him, I'll make a proclamation. You'll never

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Speaker 1: forget about someone who built his entire fortune selling other

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Speaker 1: human beings. Now there's a difference, I think, between not

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Speaker 1: honoring the founder of the Ku Klux Klan and tearing

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Speaker 1: down a statue of Thomas Jefferson. And part of it

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Speaker 1: requires the exercise of judgment. It's not a clean narrow

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Speaker 1: line that we should we should never express a view,

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Speaker 1: or we should we should always silence views. It is

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Speaker 1: somewhere in between. But but the Left. The thing to

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Speaker 1: understand about cancel culture is the Left is trying to

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Speaker 1: use power to dominate the terrain of discussion. So I

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Speaker 1: remember last summer, two summers ago, I was in California.

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Speaker 1: Heidi's families from California. We were visiting with a friend

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Speaker 1: of the family as a kindergarten teacher, and she said, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm scared to speak. There's a McCarthyist wind in the

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Speaker 1: air that if I say the wrong thing at school,

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Speaker 1: I'm fired and my job is lost. And there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that feel frightened to speak because

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Speaker 1: the Left is so unrelenting. And so I think we

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Speaker 1: ought to have a lot of tolerance. We can draw

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Speaker 1: lines at the extreme, but we ought to have a

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Speaker 1: lot of tolerance for a reasoned discourse and debate, and

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Speaker 1: that includes a reason discourse about our history, which is

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Speaker 1: neither uniformly good nor uniformly bad, and we ought to

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Speaker 1: be able to discuss that intelligently. This will be This

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Speaker 1: will be the last question. But if you want to

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Speaker 1: continue asking the senator more questions, you can go to

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Speaker 1: Verdict with Ted Cruz dot com slash plus. You will

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Speaker 1: get exclusive access to the Senator, including the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: ask him questions. If you want to introduce yourself and

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Speaker 1: ask your question. Yeah, my name is Lane Witt, and

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Speaker 1: I found in an organization on campus called UNMASKUW, and

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Speaker 1: our goal is to get where do I sign up?

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Speaker 1: How do I how do I become a member of

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Speaker 1: that club UNMASKUW dot org. So basically we just want

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Speaker 1: to get rid of masks, obviously, but the university administration

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Speaker 1: is not gonna help us no matter how many protests

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Speaker 1: we hold. So my question basically is how do we

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Speaker 1: get weaker Republicans in the state legislature to stand up,

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Speaker 1: take a principle, stand and actually follow the law and

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Speaker 1: get mask mandates removed from you? W Madison. Look, it's

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Speaker 1: a great question. My view on all of COVID is

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Speaker 1: there should be no mandates. There should be no mask mandates,

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Speaker 1: there should be no vaccine mandates, there should be no

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Speaker 1: vaccine passports. That it ought to be up to individual choice.

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Speaker 1: If people want to wear a mask. We've got some

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Speaker 1: people here wearing a mask, right, that's your choice, that's

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Speaker 1: your right to do it. You can make your own

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Speaker 1: choice about your own healthcare. If people choose to get vaccinated,

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Speaker 1: that's what Heidi and I have done, that's what our

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Speaker 1: parents have done. That's your choice too. But it shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be the government forcing you to do that. And I

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Speaker 1: would say, look, you've got a lot of folks and

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Speaker 1: politics that are scared about this issue. It is a

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Speaker 1: weird thing. So the way the United States Congress is

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Speaker 1: right now, on the House side, Nancy Pelosi rules like

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Speaker 1: a tyrant, so she forces everyone to wear a mask,

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Speaker 1: and she has said that she will have the Capitol

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Speaker 1: police arrest any staffer who doesn't wear a mask, and

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Speaker 1: she's finding House members who don't wear a mask. And

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Speaker 1: I think it's a complete abuse of power. We did

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Speaker 1: a verdict on that topic, in particular the Senate. It's

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Speaker 1: interesting the Senate, you've got a little bit more kind

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Speaker 1: of a hundred islands where no one tries to exercise

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Speaker 1: brute force on other senators. And right now, it's the

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Speaker 1: strangest thing. It's like gang colors in the Senate. Every

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Speaker 1: Democratic senator and every Democratic staffer wears a mask walking

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Speaker 1: down the hall, and none of the Republican senators and

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Speaker 1: none of the Republican staffers wear a mask. And it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's the weirdest thing. You'll walk to the Capitol

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Speaker 1: and you can literally see some intern who you've never

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Speaker 1: met before, and you've been like Republican, Democrat, Democrat, Republican.

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Speaker 1: It's bizarre. I mean, it's like the crypts of the

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Speaker 1: Bloods or something. And even the same colors actually red

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Speaker 1: and blue. There it is. And the thing to understand

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Speaker 1: about it is the left knows what they're saying as

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Speaker 1: a croc the hip hop accracy. So Nancy Pelosi when

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Speaker 1: she has this fundraiser in northern California with all these

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Speaker 1: rich Democrats, none of them have masks on. And of

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Speaker 1: course the waiters and waitresses, the serving staff are masked,

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Speaker 1: which which from a Democratic perspective, yes, you little people

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Speaker 1: like Amelda Marcos. You know, let the little people do it.

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Speaker 1: You know, Barack Obama is sixtieth birthday party in Martha's vineyards. Again,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of rich Democrats dancing. None of them are

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Speaker 1: wearing masks. Mayor of San Francisco while dancing, same issue,

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Speaker 1: she was feeling the spirit, she said, it is and

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you in the Senate, so you see

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Speaker 1: these Senate Democrats when they're behind closed doors, they don't

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Speaker 1: wear masks when they're having conversations, and then suddenly a

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Speaker 1: camera's They're like, oh crap, I gotta put my mask

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Speaker 1: on them, because you know, the virus reacts to cameras

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Speaker 1: like it has become this weird virtue signal the left

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Speaker 1: is fond of projection. And all right, this is a

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Speaker 1: dangerous thing because I'm gonna make a pop culture reference

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Speaker 1: to a show I haven't watched. I watched a lot

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Speaker 1: of shows, but I haven't watched Handmaid's Tale. So all

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Speaker 1: I know is they wear those freakish outfits and they

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Speaker 1: they all say Mike Pence wants to turn America into that.

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Speaker 1: That's a documentary, yes, yeah, but so I haven't watched it.

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Speaker 1: So my commentary is. I'm sure not informed on that show,

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Speaker 1: but the left is literally like where you're burka as

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Speaker 1: a sign of that you are virtuous. In DC, I'll

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Speaker 1: be walking along the road and you'll see this liberal.

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Speaker 1: I've seen this several times, like a liberal woman jogging.

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Speaker 1: We'll see me jogging, reach out and put on her

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Speaker 1: mask and glare at me. I was doing. I was

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Speaker 1: speaking at an outdoor protest in DC. It was on

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Speaker 1: the border, in the open borders, and it was outdoors,

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Speaker 1: and I was at a microphone. A bunch of people

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Speaker 1: gathered there and we're talking about the border crisis, and

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Speaker 1: there was this angry lefty standing on the street screaming

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Speaker 1: at me, and he was kind of like the young

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Speaker 1: lady was here. He was cursing at me and didn't

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Speaker 1: know any of the substance but was just f you, well,

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Speaker 1: thank you for sharing, sir. And at one point he screamed,

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Speaker 1: why aren't you wearing a mask? And I'm like, you're

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Speaker 1: not wearing a mask, and it was the most bizarre.

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Speaker 1: We ought to be able to find some level of

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Speaker 1: common sense. If someone wants to wear a mask, knock

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Speaker 1: yourself out. But I think we ought to have leaders

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Speaker 1: with the courage to say, we're not going to force

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Speaker 1: you to make that decision against your wishes. And clearly

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Speaker 1: you've got a lot of courage. You were refusing to

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Speaker 1: muzzle yourself. That your fellow students are refusing to muzzle themselves.

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Speaker 1: All of us here, I guess, are at least in

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Speaker 1: the metaphorical sense, refusing to muzzle ourselves and have these discussions.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate everyone here. I especially appreciate our friend

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Speaker 1: Liz Wheeler. If you like Liz, which who doesn't? Who

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Speaker 1: doesn't love Liz? Go check out here The Liz Reeler Show.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to check it out. Also very exciting, Liz's

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Speaker 1: partnering with YAF for her own campus speaking events, So

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Speaker 1: if you want to bring Liz to your school, go

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Speaker 1: to YAF dot org slash Liz bring Liz to your school. Liz,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: We'll see in Texas tomorrow at Texas A and M. So, Michael,

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Speaker 1: what are the next stops? Where where are we headed

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Speaker 1: next on this tour? So coming up next tomorrow, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be at Texas A and M can be very

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Speaker 1: excitt Gigham. I can't wait very exciting. We're also going

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Speaker 1: to be back in DC. We're going to Catholic University.

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Speaker 1: That's going to be next week. And then we've got

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Speaker 1: three more stops yet to be decided. So if you

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Speaker 1: want to bring us to your school, head on over

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Speaker 1: to yaf dot org slash verdict so you can bring

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Speaker 1: Verdict live to your school. But it's late, Senator, it's late.

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Speaker 1: These wonderful people have taken a stand against the forces

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Speaker 1: of tyranny and suppression and censorship, a stand for America,

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Speaker 1: a stand for free speech. Thank you so much, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for the students and the community here

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Speaker 1: of the University of Wisconsin Madison. And I've got only

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Speaker 1: one message for the administrators who tried to shut us up.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, Brandon. This is vertical tech rooms.