1 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: Ring Ring, Ring Ring Ring. 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: That was a new melody we found. 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: I like it, ring Ring, Ring, Ring Ring. It can 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: mean anything, and it is five No, it's five syllables. 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: It's five opportunities for or more opportunities for melody. 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: And that's on music now today. We're here to talk 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: about sports though, because this is the two Guys Five 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: Rings podcast, and I'm Matt Rogers. 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: I'm Bowen Yang. Would you say music is the opposite 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: of sports. 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: I would no, theater is the opposite of sports. 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. Theater and sports are kind of similar 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: where it's just people watching. 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. Theater really does meet sports when 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: we discuss a certain dynamic duo that's get this on 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: our show today. Yes, there is another Olympics duo that's 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: not us. I don't know whether it be threatened or welcoming. 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: I guess because they're on the show, we should choose 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: the latter. 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: We should choose the ladder and welcome. Then they are 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: our guests. We're not gonna We're not gonna threaten. It's 22 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: gonna be a nice moment. We don't want to be. 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: I don't know a judge, Judy, now that woman she 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: brings people into her show and then she's rude to them. 25 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: She really is a very judgmental person. But I guess 26 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: that's sort of the whole thing with being a judge, 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 28 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: I'd go, oh, Judge Shineland, have some respect for yourself. 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call you by your first name. I 30 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: don't know you like that. Oh wow, yeah, Shindlin. I 31 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: forget about the Shindlin of it all. I happen to 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: like that name, Judge, Judy Shineler and Judy Shine, you 33 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,919 Speaker 1: know what are great last names as well? What Lipinski 34 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: and Weird? 35 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: I can't think of better. Rogers and Yang get Bent, 36 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: get Ben, get Bent seriously seriously sick of us. Anyway, 37 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: Luckily these two are going to be all over our 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: screens for the next I guess, hopefully the hope they 39 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: make it very far. On Traders, we don't yet know, yes, 40 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: but I will say that they are on traders. They 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: are Olympians themselves. They are commentating, which is different than judging. 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: In fact, they often commentate on the. 43 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: Judging, which is very valuable. It's the checks and balances 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: of the Olympics, as it were. 45 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: And here they are the one, the only, or should 46 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: we say the two and only, the two and only 47 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: Tylinsky and Johnny weird enjoy Well, well, well look who 48 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: it is? 49 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: Another pair, another iconic pair. We've got Tarylepinsky and Johnny. 50 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: We're with us. 51 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining, so excited to be Thank you guys 52 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 3: for having us listen. 53 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: We did need someone, anyone with any expertise about winter 54 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: sports to come beyond this podcast because it is not us. 55 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: So thank you so much for throwing us a life raft. 56 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: We're here to help. 57 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: We're right, So explain the concept of winter for everybody. 58 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: Well, in hockey, they wear pads for winter. 59 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: Oh that's the main thing that we need to know. 60 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: Padding of course, so you guys are obviously I think 61 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: it's sort of like changed commentating when you guys like 62 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: decided to team up. Was that an idea that you 63 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: guys had about each other or was it sort of 64 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 2: was there a chemistry? Read like, how did it happen 65 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: that you guys came to be? 66 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 5: It was really kismet because I was commentating at the 67 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 5: women's event and Johnny was commentating the men's event, and 68 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 5: we were doing it separately, and of course, you know 69 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 5: skating is a very small world, so I knew of Johnny, 70 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 5: but we never really had a lot of interactions. We 71 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 5: skated at different times and competed at different times. But 72 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 5: we were in NBC Sports studios and waiting to do 73 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 5: our respective commentaries that night, and we were sitting in 74 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 5: a hallway on the with our bags next to each other, 75 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 5: and we just started talking about our handbags and I 76 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 5: was like, this is my best friend. I don't know 77 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 5: where he's been, but this is my soulmate in life, 78 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 5: and I love you, and pretty much we chatted and 79 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 5: by the end of that conversation, we said we need 80 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 5: to pitch NBC that we commentate together. 81 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 4: And this was right before the twenty fourteen Olympics. Oh 82 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 4: my goodness, it's been crazy over a decade. And we 83 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 4: then did a little audition. 84 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: Oh there was an audition. 85 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 5: There was an audition, and I think we nailed it. 86 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 5: And then we moved on to So Cheap. 87 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: And the thing is about like where we both come from. 88 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 3: Obviously we share a past as figure skaters and elite athletes, 89 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 3: and figure skating has a bad reputation for not being 90 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: the warmest and coziest of environments because it's not like football, 91 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 3: where you have a game every single weekend to prove yourself, 92 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: really get one chance in front of the world. So 93 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 3: that ultimately creates a culture where it's so competitive and 94 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: you don't want to trust anyone because they might stand 95 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: in your path. And for some reason, when Tara and 96 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: I met, I didn't feel any of that. I didn't 97 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: feel any hostility, There was no competitiveness. It was just 98 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: pure love. And it's so rare, I think in life 99 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: anyway to find someone like that, but from where we 100 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 3: come from even more rare. And it's just been the 101 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: most magical journey to actually share a career and share 102 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: something that we love with the whole world and do 103 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 3: it sitting next to our best friend. It's just it's 104 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: been so magical and we're so grateful every time we 105 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 3: sit in that booth. 106 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's beautiful because I mean listen, if figure 107 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: skating were warm and cozy, would melt the freaking ice. Yeah, 108 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: so it's okay. But also I think the reason why 109 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: people love you guys so much as a duo is 110 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: that you demonstrate this technical knowledge on top of being personalities, 111 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: which is something that you have to sort of account 112 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: for because the attention of the audience at home is 113 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: and everyone in the room is on the activity. But 114 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: like you are literally adding color and depth and dimension 115 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: to what is going on and giving context in a 116 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: very important way. So I think the fact that people 117 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: have fallen in love with you beyond you know, the 118 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: technical precision of what you've done and demonstrating your careers 119 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: is sort of the special thing. But how did you 120 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,799 Speaker 1: guys know to expand beyond figures? Kidding? Because talk about 121 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: doing the Summer Olympics, talk about doing the derby, Like, 122 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: what how do you read? 123 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: That was a hot thing, wasn't it? It was a. 124 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 5: Well what was so crazy is we didn't really expect this. 125 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 5: We went to Soji, we were in Russia. We af 126 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 5: our joining rooms, were having the time of our life. 127 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 5: We were on NBC Sports, which was, you know, not 128 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 5: the primetime show, so no one was really noticing us 129 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 5: while we were there. But one morning I looked at 130 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 5: Instagram and I was like, Johnny, things are happening. Like 131 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 5: we barely understood it, of course, but but we realized that, 132 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 5: you know, oh, when we get back, things might be 133 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 5: a little different, and they were. We immediately sort of 134 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 5: got the spot as the new primetime commentators, and then 135 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 5: really the cherry on top for Johnny and I where 136 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 5: our careers together expanded was the offers and the opportunities 137 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 5: to work with an NBC Sports at the Kentucky Derby, 138 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, the National Dog Show, and then beyond 139 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 5: that we we then got other opportunities which which we 140 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 5: didn't expect. 141 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 4: I mean, we hosted a Food. 142 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 5: Network show, we have done the creaz we show up 143 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 5: everywhere you think we should have, and. 144 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 4: Somehow we just have to learn and figure out what 145 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 4: we're doing. 146 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: At the super Bowl, it was kind of the cutest thing. 147 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: So we went to the media day, which I think 148 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: we were both pretty unfamiliar with, and it's when the 149 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: players sit in their own little booths and the press 150 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: of the world travels around from booth to booth talking 151 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: to whomme Ever, and because we are so much like 152 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: slighter and tinier. 153 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 4: Than most wiled my way up, we. 154 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: Pushed a little bit. But then these other like very 155 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: kind of grizzled football reporters and people from the local beat, like, 156 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: we're not reporters. We're not used to like shuffling. We 157 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: get taken places we're just kind of like they opened 158 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: this little beautiful pathway and kind of pushed us forward. 159 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: Here's Rob Gronkowski, Here's Tom Brady. That it was just 160 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: it was so fun and it's it's funny to see 161 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: the kind of people that react to us because being 162 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: from figure skating, it's a very niche world. And then 163 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: you know, I had my own reality show for a 164 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: long time and that was even more niche than Olympic 165 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: figure skating, And like there was all the stuff that 166 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 3: we've done, and like, I can be getting gas and 167 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: I was in La One was getting gas and a 168 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: group of motorcyclists stopped to be like, I love you 169 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 3: and terror you guys are awesome. The reaction that we 170 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: get from from people, it's it's so overwhelming and so special. 171 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: And I think just the fact that we love having 172 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: fun and experiencing new things, and it's easy when we're 173 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 3: together because you know, I'm always going to be there 174 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: to support Tarran. She's always there for me. So we're 175 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 3: not afraid to try things, and we find the fun 176 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: and the humor and everything that we do. And I 177 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: think that's that's why we keep going, That's why we 178 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: keep working and showing up at the super Bowl when 179 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: we shouldn't. 180 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: I feel like it's so obvious how much fun you 181 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: guys are having. In one of the ways in which 182 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: that comes across most is obviously in the fashion. So 183 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: this is Milan, Okay, it's a fashion capital in a 184 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: major way. I want to know what we can expect. 185 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 2: But also how far in advance you started sourcing pieces, 186 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: getting everything together, coordinating, walk us through this process, so 187 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 2: you know. 188 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 5: We are actually getting very good at this, you know, 189 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 5: twelve years in so the time is getting shorter in 190 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 5: prep just because we are like an old married couple 191 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 5: where we will show up and we showed up at 192 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 5: Traders and we weren't allowed to talk to each other there, 193 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 5: and we showed up in white and black like we 194 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 5: are just we it's telepathic. We kind of know what 195 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 5: to do now, we know our colors, and so we'll 196 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 5: shop and we'll source, you know, a few months in advance, 197 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 5: and then we really do. It's no joke when we 198 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 5: bring like twenty suitcases, because we just bring everything because 199 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 5: then when we get to the hotel, we put it 200 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 5: all in our wardrobe bracs and we like to mix 201 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 5: a match and make sure that we are sharing some 202 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 5: similar elements in each each broadcast, and we do it there. 203 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 5: But I feel like this year, Johnny, we have one 204 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 5: fun look. We always do a gold look that we 205 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 5: look forward to, but we have a we have a Trader's. 206 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 4: Nod o going to you guys for this year. Yea 207 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 4: for one of the looks. 208 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: Osion on Traders giving fashion at the Olympics giving fashion. 209 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: It's going to be all about you too, Johnny. 210 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 4: We should just like wear a cloak one day. 211 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 5: We should just just straight up both being cloaks. 212 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: I am faithful. 213 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what you're saying. 214 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a current like space in Milan that 215 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: we will stick out for you and we will find 216 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: that turret for you. 217 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: Thank you. 218 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: I want to head out to this idea that like 219 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: you guys show up where you quote unquote like shouldn't be. 220 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: I think that is why I think the fact that 221 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: you guys stand out in this like outstanding way is 222 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: because I think even with figures, skitting is like a 223 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: niche thing. You guys really did like push things forward 224 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: in terms of people like projecting certain ideas onto you, 225 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: right like Tara you as a teenager and Johnny you 226 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: as someone who was really pushing the boundary for like 227 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: what the visuals and the campiness and the fun of 228 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: what the sport could be. I think this is why 229 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: I mean, well, I should ask you guys, like, do 230 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: you guys think that's what's given you this instinct in 231 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: this maybe armor to like be in spaces like that. 232 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: Well, I think we both come not only just from 233 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: skating backgrounds, but we're both from Tara was born in Philly. 234 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: I'm from Amish country outside Philly. We come from a 235 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 3: similar place and we have very similar values, I think 236 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: in the way that we were raised, in the way 237 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: that we grew up, and there's just that natural way 238 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 3: that we respond to one another just from humble upbringings. 239 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 3: And then as we got into sports, we were both 240 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 3: obviously very competitive Tara, you know, one so early and 241 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: there's such a drive that you have to have to 242 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: be able to accomplish that and hold all the pressure 243 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: of the world on your shoulders. And you know, in 244 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 3: my own way, I didn't win the Olympics like her, 245 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 3: but in my own way, I dealt with a lot 246 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 3: of pressure, you know, to be the face of something 247 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: when all I was trying to do was to be 248 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: a skater and to be a great skater, and I 249 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 3: think figure skating and any professional level sport or Olympic 250 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: level sport, it forces you into being flawless. And I 251 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: think that both of us having been raised up in that, 252 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: and like, you're not allowed to fail. There is no 253 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: opportunity to fall down. You cannot do something halfway. I 254 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 3: think that growing up in that gave us the opportunity 255 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: to as entertainers now and people that work in television now, 256 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 3: we can just try anything and take it on the chin, 257 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: and even if we're not rated it, we can laugh 258 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: our way through it. And it's taken a long time 259 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: for me personally to learn how to do that, because 260 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 3: you know, to be a figure skater you have to 261 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 3: be a little bit of a perfectionist and a little 262 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 3: bit competitive at least. And I think that the way 263 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: that we embrace the world is often through hard work 264 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 3: and preparation, but with humor or what's the point? And yeah, 265 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 3: I think that that is similar to the way a 266 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 3: lot of people live their lives. There's so much pressure 267 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: on people to be great, to be perfect, to win 268 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 3: the bread, to hunt and gather, to do all of 269 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: those things. And sometimes you just you want to giggle 270 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: and you want to google with your friend, and it's 271 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: just so special that we have these abilities no matter 272 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 3: what they are, no matter what comes our way, know 273 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: that we will show up, we will be ready, we 274 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 3: will be prepared, we will have worked hard and sparkly. 275 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think also, Jay, it's interesting. 276 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 5: I think not only I think there's probably a few 277 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 5: things that go into it, but I think our friendship 278 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 5: and us being so in sync makes for a very 279 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 5: seamless banter and our organic banter. But I think beyond that, 280 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 5: it's kind of what you were saying about our sport, 281 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 5: and we were very we skid at different times, but 282 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 5: there was a lot of similarities throughout our careers that 283 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 5: I think we both identify with and we have those 284 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 5: shared experiences, but just who we are as people, I 285 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 5: think both as you know, amateur skaters, we were very 286 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 5: authentic and we showed up as ourselves and we weren't 287 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 5: kind of afraid to ruffle feathers here and there and again. 288 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 5: In figure skating that's not always the norm, especially back then. 289 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 5: Now the sport is changing so much in in a 290 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 5: really good way. But I think when we're in the 291 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 5: commentary booth. We always just felt like we have to 292 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 5: be our most authentic selves. We have to say what 293 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 5: we feel, whether it's for and you know, just for 294 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 5: the entertainment of it all and have fun, or to 295 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 5: call out a judging panel, and I think just being 296 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 5: on the same page in that way, it feels like 297 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 5: a safe space that we're allowed. 298 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 4: To do that. 299 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: Well, Tara, you mentioned that it's changed. I feel like 300 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: people outside of the sport would love to know what 301 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: you attribute that change too, in the attitude around the 302 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: sport within it, Well. 303 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 5: I think it's just a culture and over time that 304 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 5: will evolve and there will be people inside the sport 305 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 5: that are pushing those boundaries that eventually everyone will start 306 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 5: to accept and it becomes the norm. And I think 307 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 5: that that's what we're seeing now. We're seeing especially in 308 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 5: the women's event. I think it's incredible. We call them 309 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 5: the Big Three, that the three women going to the Olympics, 310 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 5: and they all have such different personalities as a bo 311 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 5: Levedo is the perfectionist of the group, but very funny, 312 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 5: and then you have Amber Glenn who's had an incredible 313 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 5: journey and like one word to describe her is just 314 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 5: perseverance and authenticity, and she wears our heart on her sleeve, 315 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 5: and she talks about her mental health struggles and how 316 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 5: she's overcome all that or still tries to in this moment. 317 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 4: And then you have Alyssa. 318 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 5: Lou who is just so much fun pushing all the boundaries, 319 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 5: shows like dyes her hair every day and shows us 320 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 5: to practice late and is like this is who I am, 321 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 5: and this is what I want to ski too, and 322 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 5: this is the dress I'm gonna wear. And I think 323 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 5: that's great for the sport. 324 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely. And before we wrap it up with some traders questions, 325 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: we have to our friend who grew up in Newark, Delaware, 326 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: wanted us to ask you, Tara, if you did indeed 327 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: train at the University of Delaware before Oh. 328 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: My god, you just you just you confirmed a lot 329 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: of lore because it was because it was it was 330 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: the scuttle button town just in Newark, Delaware. 331 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: There was like Tara Lipinski's training here, and so I 332 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: think you you figure very heavily into that town. John 333 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: and I again all the Delaware and I. 334 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 4: But we were both there. 335 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 3: We both so in our area, the University of Delaware 336 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: was the number one training facility for figure skating, and 337 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 3: it's still skating still like that. There will be huge 338 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: training bases in Montreal and Michigan and California, in New Jersey, 339 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: but you know, back in our time, it was Delaware 340 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 3: of all places, and my parents took me there because 341 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,239 Speaker 3: of people like Tara Lipinski that has been training there, 342 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 3: and the level of coaching was so high and the 343 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 3: level of skating was so high. And yeah, there's a 344 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: lot of people that have come through New York Delaware 345 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 3: more than you would expect. 346 00:17:41,000 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, it's time for us to finally talk about 347 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: the Olympics, by which I mean the Traders. So I 348 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: want to know as faithful's, which we can confirm you 349 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: are at least at this point. I love that you 350 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: both looked down a little bit, like you're both like, Okay, 351 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: NBC's watching, But when you're watching the show, something that 352 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 2: I never really think about until obviously I'm watching it 353 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: is like, oh, all the Faithfuls are watching these conversations 354 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: in the turret for the first time. So I guess 355 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 2: what were your reactions at home watching both Alan's selection 356 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 2: of the Traders and these interactions between Rob, Candice and 357 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 2: Rinna which, by the way, an iconic three. 358 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 5: Well, it's so fascinating to watch it back, obviously iconic three. 359 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 5: I think that the choice of traders is top notch. 360 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 5: But Rob blows my mind. 361 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, john He's incredible to. 362 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 5: Say when you're watching, because in the castle he was 363 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 5: just so laid back where I was like, maybe he 364 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 5: doesn't even want to play the. 365 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 4: Game, like he's just chilling, but he also. 366 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 5: Was invested at certain times, but just him this like 367 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 5: really helpful, like he was everyone in the castle just 368 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 5: adored Rob and it was It's hilarious the moment that. 369 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 4: He was chosen, just to see him up there, and. 370 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 5: And I'm like I knew, like I watched him play 371 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 5: chess because I thought it was weird. 372 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I was wondering you were right there. 373 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 5: But I'm like, oh, Rob, I mean he might just 374 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 5: be teaching Lisa chess. But I mean there's a moment 375 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 5: you see on my face where I'm like, that's weird. 376 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 2: Know how to play either of you know the rules? 377 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 3: I kept forgetting what I was doing. To be fair, 378 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 3: I was so and. 379 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 4: I think it's the word Johnny. 380 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Like I was very worried before he went 381 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: because of like privacy and making keeping the game like 382 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 3: secret and all of that. There's no hair makeup, so 383 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 3: I was very worried about how I was going to 384 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 3: look because I'm not gifted to my hair and makeup. 385 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 3: So that was one thing. But then otherwise, like I 386 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: am so chill with people, like I accept you as 387 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 3: you are. I'm a cancer, so like give me all 388 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: of your trauma, let me help you. Let like that's 389 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: that's my vibe. So in trying to stuss out, especially 390 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 3: from the beginning Candice, Rinna and Rob, I was just like, 391 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: I love everyone and everyone to win, but it's just 392 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 3: it's such an overwhelming experience. And Tara and I watched 393 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: it back that's when we were commentating the US Nationals. 394 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 3: We stayed up until two in the morning watching the 395 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: three episodes after work, and it was just so funny 396 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 3: because there are so many moments that you're not in 397 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: the room for and the Congo line. I missed the 398 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 3: Congo line entirely. No idea where I was. 399 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 5: Well, I like a good good time too, Okay, Like 400 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 5: the thing about the castle is traumatizing and terrifying most 401 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 5: of the time, but at other times this cast was 402 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 5: so cool. 403 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 4: I think all of us got along so well for 404 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 4: the moment. It was hard. 405 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 5: But but you know, congo line or dance party. I'm like, 406 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 5: any camp, you know, castle camp activity, like, let's have 407 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 5: some fun, let's do it up. 408 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 2: It didn't feel it didn't rub you. It didn't feel 409 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: weird too that she was just like out of nowhere 410 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: suggesting it. It was like, yeah, we line. 411 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 5: I did say maybe we do this tomorrow, but then 412 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 5: you hear me saying that because I'm like, this is 413 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 5: strange and it's late and I'm hired, but you know what, 414 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 5: if you're going to do the congo line, let. 415 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: Me get it once. Trek was all in too, like 416 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 3: we didn't have normal childhoods or proper childhoods in any way. 417 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: So anytime you give us like a ramhead Easter egg 418 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 3: hunt or a conga line, like, we're both gonna give 419 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: it our all because we didn't get to do it. 420 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: For sure, it's healing something from the past. I have 421 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: a very important question, which is how long is the 422 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: drive from the castle to where they put you up? 423 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: Which is not a product in secret now, I just 424 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: want to know how long. 425 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 2: Is that You're not wanted to say, they're not allowed 426 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: to say. 427 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: They really can't say that. We're just like you guys 428 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: are good. 429 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 3: Well, we signed crazy das we can't tell anything. I 430 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 3: can't afford a lawsuit. 431 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say it. Now, I want to 432 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: know what does the NDA say? Can you say that, 433 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: what are you up against? 434 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 3: And we can tell you what happened that you. 435 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: Saw you can confirm our eyes were working. 436 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: You guys win the goal for abiding by the NDA. Congratulations. 437 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 2: Well, I guess one thing that we do know is 438 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 2: that you know, obviously you guys are an extremely well 439 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: known duo, and so your decision to act like you 440 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: were not very close. Were people sort of approaching you 441 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 2: being like, hey, why aren't you talking to your very 442 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 2: well known friend or did you just find that it 443 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: didn't come up? 444 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 4: Well, Jay, I'll start this off and you can finish it. 445 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 5: But I you know, Johnny and I knew we were 446 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 5: going to this together before we went did, and so 447 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 5: when we got there, I mean, our plan, what I 448 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 5: thought the plan we agreed the plan was just far 449 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 5: away and just hope somehow they think we work together. 450 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 5: But we're not that close, and you're we're in this 451 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 5: and we're competitive in our own right. So when Johnny 452 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 5: the very first thing, you can kind of see it 453 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 5: when they it was such a quick clip, but he 454 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 5: comes up and I thought he was being way too friendly, 455 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 5: so I really give him the cold shoulder of like 456 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 5: nice to be sir, you know, like I And I 457 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 5: saw his little face after I know him so well, 458 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 5: and I saw his face where he's. 459 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 4: Like, Okay, I know where to go. 460 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 3: That thing is I'm really socially awkward and like I 461 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: like my people, and yeah, how to be outgoing and 462 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: stuff is just a very learned skill. So we I 463 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 3: don't think tee, we never assume anyone knows who we are. 464 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 3: And I think it's just again because of the way 465 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 3: we were raised and who we are, I'm not going 466 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 3: to assume anything. We're going to be humble about and 467 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 3: if someone does know, but if they don't know, we're 468 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 3: also not going to be upset about it. And with 469 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 3: that said, I never know who anyone is. I really 470 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 3: don't follow pop culture a lot, and I don't have 471 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 3: time to be fair. And we showed up and I 472 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: knew Tara obviously, and I knew she was going to 473 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: be there, and we had interviewed Eric Nahm for a 474 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 3: piece on K pop during the Olympics in tung Cheng, 475 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 3: so we knew him, but he had to remind me 476 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 3: that I knew him. Otherwise I was just like, they're 477 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 3: also pretty and loud, Like what am I going. 478 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 4: To do for? 479 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 5: Like obviously we knew like Lisa Rinna, but I've never 480 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 5: watched housewisee. 481 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 4: I know who rob what I had, No, we had 482 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 4: no idea. 483 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: I think I got you getting a lot is about 484 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 3: Rappapor because like when you're there, you don't have access 485 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: to your phone or the Internet and things like that, 486 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 3: so I couldn't even like google people. And I didn't 487 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 3: know how divisive he was because I take everyone at 488 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 3: face value and you shake my hand, that's when I 489 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 3: kind of make my judgment about you. So we didn't 490 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 3: have any background information about anyone. And like since I've 491 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: been home and people have seen the first three episodes, 492 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: they're all like, how did you handle him? I'm like, 493 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 3: I just thought he was loud, but I didn't realize 494 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 3: this kind of reputation. 495 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: Well pretty quickly. He I feel like divided the room 496 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: within the traders anyway, so you know, he he tips 497 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: himself off. 498 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: So but out of everyone, was there one person that 499 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 2: you actually were starstruck by, even if you don't follow 500 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 2: two things many that much. 501 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 3: Well, I didn't know anyone, honestly, Like, I didn't know 502 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: he know if I should be starstruckt or not, because 503 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 3: I know I'm right of the show, and I know 504 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 3: there's a lot of like Housewives and gamers, and I've 505 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 3: never watched an episode of Survivor or a Big Brother 506 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: in my life, so as huge as they are in 507 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: their communities, I had no idea I was. I'd known 508 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: Alan coming before in the city and was like, not 509 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 3: starstruck by him. I want to see what it was wearing, 510 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 3: but I knew him. A castle was very impressive, and 511 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: like driving up to it for the first time, I 512 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 3: was pretty starstruck by the castle, I can say. But 513 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: everyone else, like I just met them as regular people, 514 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 3: not as huge stars in their own realms. 515 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 5: You probably ask, So what I think was cool is 516 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 5: that because Johnny and I don't watch a lot of 517 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 5: reality television that we really I was talking to Canvas 518 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 5: about that I really bonded with her and I don't 519 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 5: know anything about her history on Housewives any storylines. I 520 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 5: don't know anything, So I just know who I met, 521 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 5: the human in front of me that I, you know, 522 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 5: grew a friendship with and and now we talk about 523 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 5: our babies. And I still haven't watched any of the shows, 524 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 5: and I don't think I need to. I just I 525 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 5: like the friendships that I made in the castle and 526 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 5: in that way. 527 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 3: And I mean we knew we kind of knew of 528 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 3: Mark Ballast because I did Dancing with the Stars, but 529 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: not the season that he He was on a break 530 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 3: that season, and I quickly fell in love with Candace 531 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 3: and Caroline and I was just trying to be as 532 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: as chilling justice. 533 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, coolest, the best vibe. Well, I think the 534 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: moral of this is that Eric Knahm had to give 535 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: you Actually we've met Johnny, so that's. 536 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: That's very cool. 537 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 3: He ran up all outside the castle, right, and it 538 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 3: was just a cluster of people in cool outfits and 539 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: he ran up and instead of saying Johnny, it's so 540 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 3: good to see you, he said, Johnny we worked together 541 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 3: when we did that piece for the Olympics in Korea. 542 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm Eric reminder. That's how he's so cute. He's so 543 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: say the best, the best. Well, thank you so much 544 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: for joining us, for giving us your time. You guys 545 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: are very busy right now. We'll see you in Milan. 546 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: Hopefully we're going to be watching. We'll hang, we'll get 547 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: a we'll get a cocktail. I feel like this is 548 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: a this is a force, something that needs to happen. 549 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: We're working so we can have like a butter for 550 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 3: some posts that we can. 551 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 4: Wine. 552 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll have dinner with you. 553 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: It's heart healthy. 554 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 4: Okay. 555 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: There a stirring conversation. 556 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: Truly, they were willing to get into it with us 557 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: about Trader stuff. I'm truly as much as they could, 558 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: as much as they could. 559 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: You know, I'm interested. I love hearing how the faithfuls 560 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: feel when the Traders are revealed on television. It's a 561 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: whole other show they haven't even seen, of course, fascinating, 562 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: fascinating stuff. 563 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: They're legends. I am genuinely so excited to hear them 564 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: talk talk talk and come out and looks, looks, looks. 565 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: And I'm excited to flag them down for a glass 566 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: of wine on the ground in Milan. 567 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: On the ground and means gonna happen, and we'll have 568 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: a French wine. 569 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, a French wine in Italy. Not an Italian You're 570 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: so subversive. 571 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: Problem knows. 572 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 2: Anyway, whatever we drink, we'll be sure to tell you 573 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: all about it on the next episode of Two Guys 574 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: Five Rings. 575 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: It might not be the next one, it might be another. 576 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: We don't know when that's We don't know. We might 577 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: forget about we might forget to mention it. 578 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: At some point, you'll either hear from us or you won't. 579 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: And that's just how life is, That's just how all 580 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: communication is. Really. Yeah, I can't guarantee that you'll hear 581 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,479 Speaker 1: from me ever again. After today. 582 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: I would be sad. Ultimately, I'd get over it because 583 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: I'd have to write, but it would be hard to. 584 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: Lose you bo I agree. 585 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: Dude, Dude, do do