WEBVTT - From Chile to Illinois

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<v Speaker 1>You are now listening to Waiting on Reparations production of

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<v Speaker 1>I Heart Radio. What is happening? My name is Dope Knife,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Lincola Franca, and we are Waiting on Reparations. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a very special guest with us again. I've brought

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<v Speaker 1>back my homie who guested it for us when Mariah

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<v Speaker 1>was taking some time off. He is the ex Army ranger,

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<v Speaker 1>cool dad and commentator himself, my homie John Hannah. What's

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<v Speaker 1>happening John? What's been the highlight of your week? Man? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>My kid finishing up some antibiotic grounds and rappings the presents.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, are you doing the whole Are you doing

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<v Speaker 1>the whole family thing? First of all? Like, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just just so that week and our our guests can

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<v Speaker 1>be a little of you know, climate to you. Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you just tell him about yourself? Oh no, no, job,

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<v Speaker 1>these mothers know you already. Yeah. I'm a former Army ranger,

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<v Speaker 1>but currently I mostly surfing, take care of my two kids,

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<v Speaker 1>Zoe and Avery. That's my day. How's your week, Marien? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been good. This is my first couple of days

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<v Speaker 1>of vacation. I'm taking two eggs off of commissioning to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of recharge because that ship will beat the hell

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<v Speaker 1>out of you. Um And so yeah, I'm just kicking

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<v Speaker 1>back rewatching the Matrix trilogy in preparations for the new film,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm very excited about. You I see that, I

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<v Speaker 1>see that. That's that's scrooge E look on your face, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>What do you I mean? I don't know, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna I don't like hating on anything that I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen, so I'm gonna refrain from passing down any

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<v Speaker 1>sort of judgment. But you know, I'm like a Matrix stam.

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was one of those weirdos back in

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<v Speaker 1>high school where I honestly could sit down and just

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<v Speaker 1>pantomime the entire movie for you, like in person, with

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<v Speaker 1>all the pauses and the beats and the dialogue and

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<v Speaker 1>like inflections like I was. I was nutsle with him

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So I can't nobody downplay my Matrix bona Fetus.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it looks you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't look bad to me. It just looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a regular movie. And that's what has me feeling like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel like if you put everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>the like just from looking at the trailer, if everybody

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<v Speaker 1>was dressed as Iron Man in Captain America, it would

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<v Speaker 1>look like a Marble movie. And that's that's what's gotta be. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>got your little shook, Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be I'm sure it'll be dope. Now, will it be

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<v Speaker 1>like the matrix to sound like some nerd like, Well, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just don't know how matrix I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I don't know. I don't know how the

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<v Speaker 1>new one's going to be. But the old ones hold up.

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<v Speaker 1>God's running around doing karate and computer ship. Everybody got

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<v Speaker 1>the slim little sunglasses on. Cornell West is in the

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<v Speaker 1>second one. I don't know if y'all remember that, remember that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's in that ship. That's probably my first like where

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<v Speaker 1>I first started hearing about Cornell West. The corporate goons

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<v Speaker 1>are the bad guys. Love that, And then you get

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<v Speaker 1>to the Resistance underground and it's all steam punkin and

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody's all tribal and ship. It's beautiful. Dude. They

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't they couldn't have just like done a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of tweak to the wardrobe though, I mean, Kanus straight

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<v Speaker 1>up looked like then they came to the from the

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<v Speaker 1>John Wick for shoot on his lunch break to go,

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<v Speaker 1>they were just like, Yo, you don't even gotta bother

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<v Speaker 1>to cut your hair, cab. It was like, Yo, where'd

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<v Speaker 1>you get those clothes? The matrix? Every time he box

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<v Speaker 1>on a John Wicks set, they just everybody's just biting

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<v Speaker 1>their tongue wanting to say it, but they can't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Kanu not just the same character in every film.

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<v Speaker 1>He just walks from set to set wearing the same

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<v Speaker 1>fucking flowing black robe and sunglasses and just like I know,

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<v Speaker 1>like same, like you know intonation lists, just staring with

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<v Speaker 1>his mouth slightly cave. There's an analogy I always like

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<v Speaker 1>to make Wick Keanu is. I would always say Keyana

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<v Speaker 1>Reeves is the Nellie of actors because he's not really

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<v Speaker 1>that good, but most of the joints that he's inter dope. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so it's like the same way with Nellie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like somebody could Benchermon like, oh I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>his style, he's not using enough bars, and that might

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<v Speaker 1>be true to you, but like hot in here Ei,

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<v Speaker 1>like all that ship was dope. So people can like

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<v Speaker 1>shoot out canaries and be like he doesn't have range.

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<v Speaker 1>He plays the same character, but literally at least for

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<v Speaker 1>the last few years or so. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say his his ratio is about fifty fifty. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. I think for like each one

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't remember, there's like John Wick or like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, he was in the Matrix. Oh he was

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<v Speaker 1>in that one. You know. So Cannery's batting averages for

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm gonna see. I'm just gonna shut up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna see it. It looks cool, you know, let's

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<v Speaker 1>see it. Yeah. Actually, I need to bring back the

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<v Speaker 1>Green Tent. And then I'm kind of nervous. There's only

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<v Speaker 1>one of the only one with Chowski. I need. I

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<v Speaker 1>need both with Chowskis on my movies, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Like we have both of them on speed Racer,

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<v Speaker 1>we have both of them on the first three Batrix.

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<v Speaker 1>I want both of them on this one. But we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta take make do what we got. So yeah, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of making do and what we got, we got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different things to talk about this week. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna just kind of go through some of the recent

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<v Speaker 1>happenings from Obama's music picks of the year to some

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<v Speaker 1>ship going down in Latin America. We're talking about what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on Fox News and potential coop coop coop. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember the first time I ever read the word coop

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<v Speaker 1>and I said it out loud, dumb, and somebody made

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<v Speaker 1>fun of me like I never said, I never said

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<v Speaker 1>that word before. I'm sorry, I don't know I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have have silent p on the end. But anyway, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have all that and more for y'all after the jump.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, everybody, we are back with our pre holiday

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<v Speaker 1>is are we gonna? Are we gonna be back before

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<v Speaker 1>New Year's Um? I mean we can. I was playing

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<v Speaker 1>doing an episode next week, Okay, yeah, so then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well I guess we'll be back pre neier. But we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be doing this before Christmas. So as

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<v Speaker 1>we get ready for the Christmas cheer, we're gonna run

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<v Speaker 1>down some very depressing story, so depressing news stories for y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Just give our thoughts about it. So first up, Mariah,

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<v Speaker 1>what you got? Okay? So, I mean this is perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>the source of cheer to some Obama put out his

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<v Speaker 1>annual list of his favorite songs from the year went

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<v Speaker 1>Admittedly to me, feels a little bit tone death in

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<v Speaker 1>the face of, you know, the mas and miseration we

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<v Speaker 1>as a society are facing at the this pinnacle of

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<v Speaker 1>late stage capitalism. So what do you have? But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like Nobody by Nas and Lauren Hill, which I

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<v Speaker 1>personally thought was a banger. Montero my Little not X

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<v Speaker 1>also a banger. Head Shots I'd say ever Shot also

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<v Speaker 1>a banger. Um a Ventura by Bad Bunny was up there. So, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, his his taste runs the gamut. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's something for which he's very proud and tends to

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<v Speaker 1>boast this time of everywhere here like, oh, I'm so worldly.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't all the ship. But I mean, why, like

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<v Speaker 1>why do I first of all, why do you all

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<v Speaker 1>think he does this over here? I think that I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's like some pr stuff, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's considering that he's been doing it consistently

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<v Speaker 1>since his left office. It's one of those sort of

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<v Speaker 1>things that you can make like a press release about

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<v Speaker 1>and you know it just it continues on the quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote legacy or the myth of Obama and just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maintains his cultural if I don't think, yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, I just don't think he wants to end

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<v Speaker 1>up on a ranch doing paintings for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>his life. You know what I'm saying. They don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a good track record. This is his that, this is

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<v Speaker 1>his that Yeah, yeah, I do. I do gotta say, though,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think it's I think it's lame to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest with you, especially for what he for what

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<v Speaker 1>it for, what it is now, because it is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a taste, a taste making playlist for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like liberal the liberal masses to follow Obama. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, it seems like it would be iller if

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<v Speaker 1>he used it like Oprah used to use her her

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<v Speaker 1>book club list. You remember that, You remember how like

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<v Speaker 1>like like off writers who hadn't yet broken nationally would

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like that would be their thing, like oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>like Oper included me on her on her book that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it would be kind of cool if the list

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<v Speaker 1>was filled with I'm not talking about like super super

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<v Speaker 1>little motherfucker's like me or anything like that, if I

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<v Speaker 1>just mean, you know, like some not like the most popular,

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<v Speaker 1>if the if the three random things that you read

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<v Speaker 1>out are like some of the most popular artists in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, it just seems kind of I don't know, though,

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<v Speaker 1>for the Democratic Party, it's kind of ballsy. Like imagine

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary if Hillary Clinton came out with that list, Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>coming out with bud In, Isaia Shot and Little Not definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe I'm wrong. What do you think I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe her. I mean, like I've got hot sauce in

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<v Speaker 1>my hand. That's what I wouldn't believe for like something

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<v Speaker 1>consultant like handing her a list of songs that she's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to like. So then we do are we all? Then?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we all sitting here thinking that that Obama is

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<v Speaker 1>actually like oh man, I bumped Isaiah shot in bad Buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know. I hate to think that it's

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<v Speaker 1>so dry. It just sounds like an elevator in his house.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I feel like that's wrong. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know Obama I would I don't know. I would be

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<v Speaker 1>shocked if just like if if you could be like

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<v Speaker 1>a fly on the wall, I would be shocked if

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle in in Obama aren't listening to you know, late

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<v Speaker 1>late eighties early nineties type stuff, you know, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>like Obama is like, yo, I'll make huge. Yeah you're

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<v Speaker 1>fifty that you you know, it makes sense that you're

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<v Speaker 1>you know that you're you're bumping like maybe you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>for the new post and didn't go some styles peace

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<v Speaker 1>that dropped something, you know like that. That to me

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<v Speaker 1>seems like, yeah, that's what was out when Obama was

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<v Speaker 1>in his like late twenties and early thirties and trip

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Like, I don't think Obama's listening to a

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<v Speaker 1>bad buddy, but that's just me. Well, what I found

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting about this list is that it also um

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<v Speaker 1>featured an anti communist joint that we talked about actually

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<v Speaker 1>on our Cuba episode. It's called Patria Vida Evita Um,

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<v Speaker 1>which is if you recall, list has never recalled the

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<v Speaker 1>titles a twist and a slogan popularized by Fidel Castro

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<v Speaker 1>in the n Revolution of Patriot Fatherland or death. And

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<v Speaker 1>so these anti communist rappers, some of them were expats,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, living in Miami or whatever, trained to sprays

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<v Speaker 1>into Patria Vita Fatherland and life calling for an end

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<v Speaker 1>to the socialist government in Cuba. And some folks have

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<v Speaker 1>said that this track is even like a CIA plant.

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<v Speaker 1>There's actually a long history of the CIA using arts

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<v Speaker 1>to to destabilize or undermine left wing governments, including in Cuba.

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<v Speaker 1>UM and so I just thought it was really funny

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<v Speaker 1>um on their particularly considering, you know, under his presidency policy,

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<v Speaker 1>relations between the US and Cuba relaxed. Um they left

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<v Speaker 1>the travel restrictions. UM. Yeah, reopen their respective embassies and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. UM. And I actually learned that all

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<v Speaker 1>of that was facilitated by Pope Francis. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if y'all know a lot about Grope Francis. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot about most popes, but I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and say that Pope Francis is probably my favorite. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>In his speeches, he's like endorsed you b I and

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<v Speaker 1>like urged like a radical response to climate change. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so he was like, yo, Obama have then like y'all

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<v Speaker 1>need a fucking chill with the embargo on ship and

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<v Speaker 1>star stuff started getting better. But nonetheless, Uh, it's got

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<v Speaker 1>this this joint on his favorite list. Um that may

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<v Speaker 1>have been that may have been you know, like some

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<v Speaker 1>way crafted by the C. I I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's definitely politically motivated in my opinion, because, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like Republicans are making some inroads with the

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<v Speaker 1>Latino demographic for various reasons. Very good point, but one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons that that you know, that I've been

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<v Speaker 1>hearing is, oh, you know, a lot of especially older Latinos,

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<v Speaker 1>they have like they're they're they're they're more susceptible to

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<v Speaker 1>the right wing propaganda about socialism and communism and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So I think that this, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>could be you know, virtues like hey, we're anti communists.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I think I'm thinking of the Brazil episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just remember that part icular song, like I

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<v Speaker 1>remember that ship being hard as fun. It is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the music video already, Like it's actually pretty like

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<v Speaker 1>it's somewhat of a banger. Yeah, it's see now that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it's about communists or not, that ship sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>some ship that Barack Obama was listening to him. Ok,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, Like that sounds like some dusty some

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<v Speaker 1>dusty boom bout. Although I mean it sounds like a

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<v Speaker 1>response like do you remember in Seen when it looked

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<v Speaker 1>like Bernie was going to take the nomination, and you

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<v Speaker 1>had every large donor go on every news station saying

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<v Speaker 1>I wish he would just drop the socialist part. And

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they have gotten scared, Like that's a

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<v Speaker 1>scary proposition if I can't make the younger people kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like glom onto capitalism as it sits and they

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<v Speaker 1>start revolting. You have Black Lives Matter talking about police issues,

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<v Speaker 1>you have ant all the anti fascist movements for clear reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, this seems like a bid for the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party at least maybe maybe not consciously. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd like to think it was. He seems like a

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<v Speaker 1>tactician in that way, right, He's like the Captain American President.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, I think it's like a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of both. Like I think there's an

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<v Speaker 1>element of it that is, like, you know, kind of oblivious, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a fluffy playlist and ship like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would not put it past them to be

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<v Speaker 1>to have that in consideration. I mean, it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was a big it was a relative. It's a relatively

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<v Speaker 1>popular song, you know what I mean. It was something

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<v Speaker 1>that came up in me and Mariah search As when

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about Cuba, you know, so yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>can see that well. Speaking of toppling left wing governments,

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<v Speaker 1>um uh, there is a presidential election in Chile, um

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday and Gabriel Borick, a leftist millennial who were roast

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<v Speaker 1>a prominence during anti government protests in two thousand nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>They like hiked the subway fairs all across Tile and

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<v Speaker 1>people lost it and they were like mass protests all

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<v Speaker 1>over Chili's tule. So he like kind of came up

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. He got elected with of the votes,

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<v Speaker 1>handily defeating uh Jose Antonio cost whose grandfather was an

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<v Speaker 1>actual Nazi like like like one of the one of

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<v Speaker 1>the like we fled to South America Nazis. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like high up in like the Nazi military. Uh never,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like yeah and yeah. And so it's in

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<v Speaker 1>the aftermath of the election. It's been wild watching outlets

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<v Speaker 1>like the BBC like interview folks like the grandson of

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<v Speaker 1>Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet on their networks, and he's on

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<v Speaker 1>there talking about all the downfall of his great country,

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<v Speaker 1>like to which I say, l M A O fuck um.

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<v Speaker 1>But then one article I read even tried to say

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<v Speaker 1>that like Chilean Jews were concerned about Boricks pro Palestine

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<v Speaker 1>stands even though and I repeat, his opponent's grandfather was

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<v Speaker 1>an actual Nazi um and not to mention, Chile has

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<v Speaker 1>the largest Palestinian population of any place outside Palestine. So

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<v Speaker 1>like it's just so funny, like people are just so

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<v Speaker 1>trying so hard to discredit him doing a really poor

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<v Speaker 1>job because it's like, bro, like Homie was a Nazi.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're up here dragging out like his the Pinochet's

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<v Speaker 1>grandchildren from like the basement. Uh right, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>do one or two things. You have to give something

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<v Speaker 1>to most people that they did they like and cherish,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really hard to get through any congressional body,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what country you're in, unless you're a dictator

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<v Speaker 1>or you take away something and blame it on the

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<v Speaker 1>other guy. That's pretty much how we do it here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's kind of simplified. But people's brains, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, people's brains be turning into because it's like

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<v Speaker 1>look for no for real, man, like come on, like

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<v Speaker 1>like just what is the explanation for that? Like like

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<v Speaker 1>how like what what cognitance? What dissidence is going on

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<v Speaker 1>to where you're like, oh man, you're supporting Palestine and

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<v Speaker 1>the other Niggas and Nazi you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>or like you know, related to Nazi. Just there's just

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<v Speaker 1>there's like a there's like a level of intellectual dishonest

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<v Speaker 1>that it's like I don't believe you. I don't believe

0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that that's what you're problem is, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Like like if somebody's like, oh man, I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>him because he's he's against Israel, but then you're supporting

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<v Speaker 1>the other guy, then I just have to like think

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<v Speaker 1>that you're being disingenuous from the job. You might like

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<v Speaker 1>really actually not like the guy for you know, leftist

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<v Speaker 1>policies or whatever whatever. But I don't think that aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of the game is really what's upsetting. Does that make sense? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. I mean I feel like somebody like they

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<v Speaker 1>were told to write this or felt like they were

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<v Speaker 1>they had to like kind of uphold the status quo

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<v Speaker 1>of like, you know, our country lots of country supporting

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<v Speaker 1>is real, and like they came back to the editor

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, man, I'm not sure if this

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<v Speaker 1>is making sense. They're like, no, we gotta run it.

0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's run it, like, don't ask you know, don't ask

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<v Speaker 1>you questions, don't actually apply any logic to what you

0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:27.920
<v Speaker 1>have written down on this piece of paper. Run it's

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<v Speaker 1>see the headline and just retweeted or whatever, like oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. Yeah that And maybe we'll do a whole

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<v Speaker 1>episode because the history of like left wing like democracy

0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:45.359
<v Speaker 1>democracy in Chile is very interesting. Um, but I won't

0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.359
<v Speaker 1>get all into it now, but hey, we should, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking this just reminded me, and since

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<v Speaker 1>we're just talking and just gonna talk, we should do

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<v Speaker 1>an episode about China's growing influence on the continent of Africa. Oh, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>that ship is fascinating. I was doing some reading about

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<v Speaker 1>that too, because when I was a kid, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>growing up just in different countries in Africa and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>I would always you know, see, there was always like

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<v Speaker 1>a military relationship between some of the governments and Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I like my first actual real girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>was like an Israeli and her father was like an

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<v Speaker 1>Israeli military guy, and I always used to seeing Israeli officers,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, patrolling along with Liberian or African police or

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<v Speaker 1>um training them and stuff like that. And now I

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<v Speaker 1>think it seems like China's kind of in in the

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<v Speaker 1>last few decades. It seems seems like China's overtaking that

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<v Speaker 1>role to where they're doing a lot of that training,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that infrastructure investment and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, obviously nobody's given anything for free, so

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<v Speaker 1>you would imagine that there's some sort of, uh, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it be political or economic interest in it for China,

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<v Speaker 1>but it just it seems like they're going into hyper

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<v Speaker 1>drive with it. And you know, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of infrastructure projects and going on in Africa

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<v Speaker 1>right now that are totally cool and seemed totally you

0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:06.399
<v Speaker 1>know cool, and it's like, oh man, that's like a

0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.800
<v Speaker 1>that damn is a Chinese investment. I wonder, I wonder

0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.240
<v Speaker 1>what what's what they're getting out of that, But that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that we can go into. It's just so we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, yeah, stuff for the new year. Um So

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<v Speaker 1>back to Obama. What do y'all think about Obama's legacy? Generally,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's gonna be a mixed bag, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's um, I think it's it's still too fresh to

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<v Speaker 1>really put into full perspective. You know, the homies only

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<v Speaker 1>not been president for four years right or through five years?

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<v Speaker 1>So um, you know, I think from from anything from

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<v Speaker 1>oh Trump came in the aftermath to you pretty much

0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:51.199
<v Speaker 1>continued Bush's Iraq policy for a long ast time. You

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<v Speaker 1>weren't strong enough, You didn't do enough when you have

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<v Speaker 1>the super majority. There's a lot of tainted stuff in there,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think there's enough platitudes too, had the stats

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<v Speaker 1>that I think overall his legacy will be as favorable

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<v Speaker 1>as an American president's Canada too. Yeah, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna I look at it favorably, mostly in comparison

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<v Speaker 1>to now. I don't remember a lot about Clinton all

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<v Speaker 1>except for reading like everybody else did. Right. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that Obama will be looked at super kind. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he made some poor, poor military decisions and

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<v Speaker 1>foreign policy decisions, and he was just real timid about

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<v Speaker 1>making any large changes in the United States. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think he was far too timid. He could have got

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<v Speaker 1>away with a lot more, especially with the super majority

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning. But I mean, he acts like his

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<v Speaker 1>hands were tied behind his back, like Biden's kind of are,

0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.840
<v Speaker 1>but they weren't. I don't know, but that's also the

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<v Speaker 1>congressional fault at that point. I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that's true. You generally have a very short window in

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<v Speaker 1>which to accomplish anything when a party gains a majority

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<v Speaker 1>in Congress, because almost in a dobly they lose that

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<v Speaker 1>majority in the following mid terms. But it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I got into an argument, like on Facebook with this cat.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like talking about Obama and this dude with

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<v Speaker 1>like no profile, pick like six friends or some ship,

0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:15.280
<v Speaker 1>jumped in. I was talking it on me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know what, I don't even like the

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<v Speaker 1>flex on niggas like this. But I went through and

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<v Speaker 1>laid out all of my legislative accomplishments, including raising the

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<v Speaker 1>minimum watricity employees in fifteen dollars an hour, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, that ain't ship. And then I was like, yeah,

0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you're right. Wouldn't have been great if the most powerful

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<v Speaker 1>person in the world from two thousand eight until two

0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:40.679
<v Speaker 1>thousand and sixteen had done something about that issue. So

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<v Speaker 1>I did, so we could be talking about twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>dollars an hour today. And he didn't respond for some reason.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what. I don't know why but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I feel like Obama like I can first

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<v Speaker 1>for his ass and I was like seventeen, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't vote. I was like mad, like hype, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like coming to understand some of the darker

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<v Speaker 1>parts of his legacy as an older quote unquote older

0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:07.680
<v Speaker 1>adult was like my Santa Claus moment of like when

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<v Speaker 1>I was like seven and like saw the presence in

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<v Speaker 1>my parents closet, was like what the hell he like

0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:16.720
<v Speaker 1>become like turning twenty seven and being like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean? Black wealth fell my under Obama? And like

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't prosecute any of the people responsible for the wide,

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:33.400
<v Speaker 1>widespread admiseration of the American people given the two eight

0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 1>financial crisis. You mean to tell me none of those

0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:38.960
<v Speaker 1>my fathers went to jail. The stith that you don't

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:42.840
<v Speaker 1>realize at the time. It's like a perfect storm for

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<v Speaker 1>Obama because you know, like he I think he cracked

0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:51.119
<v Speaker 1>that code of like a alright, so this is the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of this is a sort of leftist tone that

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta strike while I'm campaigning when he's actually more

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<v Speaker 1>like an your liberal moderate and stuff like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>on his end, what was working to his disadvantage is

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<v Speaker 1>like he's like he had to run kind of like Bernie,

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, you know, it's like it's if you weren't,

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 1>if you weren't really like like paying attention to it,

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 1>like you know, the way that we all might be

0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 1>paying attention to elections now and stuff like that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like I I remember, like following that election, like Obama

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<v Speaker 1>was sounded like Bernie like while they were running, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that with that came a lot of expectations

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<v Speaker 1>that he'd never had any intention of living up to,

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<v Speaker 1>like mother Like Motherfucker's was really like, yo, dude, I

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:39.200
<v Speaker 1>bet you after the first year, he's gonna grow his

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<v Speaker 1>after a while, you know what I mean. Like people

0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 1>were really having that sort of expectations in Obama, like

0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 1>he was about to come in there and like really

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<v Speaker 1>in turntables over like I can't take this ship no more.

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think that ever was his intentions. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, very early on in the presidency, there was

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<v Speaker 1>like a you know what I mean, why, Well, if

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I've learned anything about governance is that the machine itself

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:09.360
<v Speaker 1>will moderate you. Like that's why I support pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>the most left wing candidates I can at any time

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:14.119
<v Speaker 1>that I can, because I know that they won't actually

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 1>be able to govern that way. That the machinery of

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>of you know, the swamp of the legislature or whatever,

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:25.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, even just the establishment within your own political

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:29.639
<v Speaker 1>party will break you and and push you into line.

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 1>And so that comes as no surprise to me as

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Obama running kind of like a burniesque populist campaign and

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:39.399
<v Speaker 1>then ultimately like you know, getting shoehorned by Wall Street,

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 1>getting uh kneecapped by the loss of the Democratic majority

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:49.400
<v Speaker 1>after the mid terms, after his um election, etcetera, etcetera. Um,

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:51.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just like it's just it is what

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 1>it is. Kind of you know what kind of gave

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 1>him a lot of cover to is Um and Patrisa.

0:25:57.680 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Neil kind of had a had a bit like this

0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 1>back in the day. We're here talking about this, But

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I think like that was the beginning of the Republicans,

0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 1>like just like completely out in the open flirting with

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:14.879
<v Speaker 1>like just straight up white supremacy, racist ship, you know

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Like it was there's a lot of

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:20.679
<v Speaker 1>like dog whistling and plausible deniability type of ship going on.

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>But it's like when Obama got in. That's when it

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 1>was like I accidentally came to work today in my kkknif.

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, guys. So I think a lot of that

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 1>shielded Barack Obama from criticism, because I know, even me

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:36.679
<v Speaker 1>back then was like, oh man, what the fund is

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:39.360
<v Speaker 1>this dude doing with the super majority? Fun these Democrats

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 1>is messing up. But I'm not fun these Tea Party

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 1>guys though, you know what I mean. It's like I'm

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 1>not gonna go with them too hard because the other

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:51.479
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker's got nooses at their rally, you know, yeah, right up.

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen this corroborated in the media, so y'all

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 1>like if you have seen any sort of confirmation that

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 1>this is true. This is like a wide bread leftist

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 1>myth that Obama stepped in during the primaries to get

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, Amy klobchar to drop out and

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 1>endorse Biden so that Bernie could not you know, it

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>was just like there's nothing he could do to stop

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the time. Okay, Like I hear about the phone call

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot, but it's like, I don't know, I haven't

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>read any additional details on it. Um, Yeah, it's not

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>really it seems it seems like some ship that you

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 1>would expect. But I know that's what I'm saying, Like

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:36.679
<v Speaker 1>it seems like some ship that you would expect, but

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 1>that you can't just always lean on that. It's like, well,

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>this makes sense to have happened. That's how you get

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:46.920
<v Speaker 1>like it makes sense that there's a microchip in the vaccine. Well,

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like, I don't know, I would expect that,

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, any sort of like entrenched power in some

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>sort of situation like that, they're gonna, you know, they're

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna pull out their their big guns at the end

0:27:57.800 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>of the day when they when they felt like a

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 1>it's like our guys gonna lose, they consolidated their power

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and they did they did what they had to do.

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know that that sort of thing

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>does never really personally, it doesn't really make me upset

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>because it's what I would expect, you know what I'm saying,

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Like if Bernie, if Bernie had a bigger or if

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>if the if the leftist part of the Democratic Party

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 1>had more influence and we're ingrained more in the infrastructure

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 1>of the Democratic Party, I would expect us to consolidate

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 1>our power to and to stop establishments figures from gaining power.

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just the ship is gonna be you know,

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>at the bottom line, that ship is gonna be hard.

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>It's like you can't. Yeah, on one hand, you can't.

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 1>You can't, like your rhetoric be man, the democratic establishment,

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>the democratic establishment, the democratic establishment, and then when the

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>democratic establishment does democratic I can't believe you guys would

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 1>do that to me, Like what like no, Like no,

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>They're they're gonna look after the Buddha judges. They're gonna

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna amplify the voices that they want. We're we're

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 1>working at a disadvantage. We know that, so we know

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>it's uphill battle. It's just it just comes down to

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>whether you're like this, there's nothing we can do, or

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 1>you're down to put in the fight. You know. I

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>partially bring this up because I've recently seen comparisons for

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:18.479
<v Speaker 1>the way is that Obama wheels his influence over politics today,

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>as in, you know, he made that phone call to

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>stop Bernie, But where was his ass when earlier this

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>week Joe Man killed Joe Biden's signature piece of legislator,

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Like where like Obama could have Where was that where

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>is that phone call? He was Obama was doing the

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>same thing that he does exactly when when it's like that,

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>that motherfucker just comes up, like the week before an election.

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:53.479
<v Speaker 1>It's like, you guys, another two years and so and

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 1>so with that, I will pivot to discussing build back

0:29:56.600 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Better and the fact it's fucking debt. So is it

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>officially dead? So Joe mentioned announced just as the Senate

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 1>was closing up shot for the year that he wouldn't

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>be supporting the current iteration of the Build Back Better bill,

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>effectively dooming it. I mean, it could re animates in

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 1>the new year, but nothing like it, you know, with

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 1>even more reduced provisions that are currently in it. You know,

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>it contained extension of the child child tax credit, produced

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>prescription costs, covered hearing benefits, and medicaid, huge investment, affordable housing,

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>so like it could come back with less of all

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 1>of that, but for now, already less of it was

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>already less of a bunch of stuff to begin with.

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 1>That it was already down to ten trillion dollars to

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>one point seven. So that's pretty bleak um, I mean,

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>so okay, So and maybe maybe Maria you can help

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 1>shed or help clarify this. Um So, how much of

0:30:57.200 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>this should heads be blaming Joe Mansion, Kristen Cinema or whatever,

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>and how much of this should uh, you know, rightfully

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>go to general Democrat fecklessness. So yeah, I was having

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>this discussion with some of the other day that was

0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>bitching about Joe Manchin, Joe Manono mansion, and I honestly

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>see this as a systemic failure. This is the failure

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>of Chuck Schumer to break some motherfucking kneecaps. This is

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>a failure of Joe Biden. They put out like this

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 1>excoriating statement like fun this nigga, he said all this

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>ship hit about. You know, the thing came out about

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>him saying people are using the child text credit to

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 1>buy drugs, which like, if you are having kids as

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>hard if you got smoke, you need to relax when

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 1>that baby is just like, I don't think he's I mean,

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>it's all I think it's a false premise, but it's

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>like I think that he's trying to project something stronger

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>than weed. Well, of course he's also the motherfucker that

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 1>wakes up on a yacht and drives past his constituents

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>begging on their knees to d clie to change. Although

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 1>the Democratic leadership knew for a fact how he was

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 1>going to vote on that, his voters. You can pull

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>his constituents right now and you can watch young turks

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and they'll talk about like how popular certain bills are

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and I'll agree with them. But his voters would not

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>go for it unless it was super super sold to them,

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't. It was sold to me really well,

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm I was all about it when it was like

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>ten billion dollars. Yep, sounds great, should probably add some

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 1>more to that. And then they dropped it. I was

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 1>still for it. Anything's better than nothing, But I don't

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>think he would have ever voted for it. They knew

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that was coming. How did they not know that was coming?

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>It is my question? Yeah? So what? So here's the thing, though,

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 1>So Mariah, what could they have done? Like, Okay, let's

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>say let's say that his turn wasn't like a last

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>second thing. So let's say that we knew four months ago,

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 1>five months ago that no matter why, he's gonna gonna

0:32:57.560 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>screw the bill. And to say no, what could the

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Democrats have been doing in the past five months to

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>get around that. I don't know. That's the thing is

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>that I'm sure there are incalculable tools in the presidential

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 1>and senatorial toolbox to get that negative fucking do the thing.

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>If it's like, oh, we're gonna put out a primary

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>challenger against you next week and they're gonna have the

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 1>full funding of, you know, full backing of the Democratic Party,

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna saying, Kamala down there and goddamn mass I

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know, Snoop Dogg down there to like stop for

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>this guy, strip him off, Strip Joe Mansion of all

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 1>those committees, threatened stripping of all those committees like they

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>always do with the fucking Republicans when they're on their function,

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>like they try to do with Marjorie Taylor Green and

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Lauren Bolbert, not them. Um, They're like, I can't even

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>imagine the a math, the massive things that are probably

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 1>available at their disposal to get him off fucking to

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>like do the thing. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and I'm

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>sorry didn't want me. I didn't mean to cut you

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>off my bed. I mean you know that like Joe

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Biden and them are also in like Nancy Pelosi are

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:14.399
<v Speaker 1>in the pocket of like big oil and big tech

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and all these industries that are probably lining his pockets

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:19.839
<v Speaker 1>as well. You don't think they could have a word

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 1>with Jamie Diamond or whoever at the fucking I don't know,

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Goldman Sacks and be like, look, we really gotta get

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>this bitch to do this thing. Okay, just like Hill

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, like there's so many things and so

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and it also speaks to just the inherent

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:38.839
<v Speaker 1>undemocratic nature of the Senate. The Senate is just ambolished.

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:42.320
<v Speaker 1>The Senate bolish Senate. It's not fair that a single

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:46.600
<v Speaker 1>person that represents two people can block an agenda that's

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:49.759
<v Speaker 1>popular with sev of the American people, of tens of

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.760
<v Speaker 1>millions of people all across the country who need child

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>tax credits, who can't afford hearing aids, who can't afford

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.719
<v Speaker 1>the prescription drug costs, blah blah blah blah lah, and

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>so the Senate just sucks. The Senate needs to not

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>exist at all, and so that in itself is a

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:10.799
<v Speaker 1>systemic failure. I think the my my takeaway from like

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>some of these things that with the Democrats having trouble

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>running through some of the agenda that they have is

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 1>like it. It seems like they're too worried about maintaining

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>like a status quo that's destined to not be there.

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, you know, even though I'm not like

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 1>completely up to speed on the minutia of the situation,

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 1>it's just like there's a lot of things where it

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:37.320
<v Speaker 1>seems like the Democrats are saying, oh, we can't we

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>we would have to take this out, like the filibuster

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>for example. It's like, hey, we'd have to take this

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.759
<v Speaker 1>step on the filibuster so that we could you know,

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 1>push through, build back better or something like that. But

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>we don't want to touch that because if we touch

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:53.359
<v Speaker 1>the filibuster change or something like that, then the Republicans

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be able to use it against us when

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.399
<v Speaker 1>we're not in the majority. And the whole thing is like, yo,

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:03.400
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna do that anyway, and that that is you know,

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, you mean, m Christopher or Goldsmith are

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna kind of touch on it in our talk, but

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like the Republicans are gonna pack the court. So

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 1>so it's like the Democrats can like, oh, we don't

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 1>want to do it because it's the fundamentally blah, blah blah.

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:20.360
<v Speaker 1>It's like they are going to do it, you know

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like like if they were in this situation,

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 1>whatever ship that they have to do to fundamentally change

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the institution forever and stuff like that, They're gonna just

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.439
<v Speaker 1>do it and then we're and then Democrats are gonna

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 1>be sitting around crying that they they told you that

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:39.399
<v Speaker 1>four years ago when they didn't put Mary Garland on

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 1>on the seat, that they don't give a funk about

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the rules and ship like that. So the whole like

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.720
<v Speaker 1>playing with kids gloves and it's like, hey, we're trying

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:50.360
<v Speaker 1>to maintain civility and blah blah, bah blah. It's like

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe that after four years of Donald Trump

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:57.759
<v Speaker 1>that Democrats are still on that ship. And it's like

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna sunk around and have us all in concentration

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:06.240
<v Speaker 1>camp doing that stupid shift for real only matter time.

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of bleak shit, UM, at least six Amazon workers

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 1>were killed in the warehouse and Edwards Built Illinois last week.

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 1>While tornadoes bore down on the distribution at on the

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 1>distribution center where they're teaking refuge and um, the warehouse

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 1>roof collapsed upon them. So it's deeply sad. I mean,

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 1>there was an incredible horrific wreckage all across you know, Kentucky,

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 1>in the in the Midwest as a result of these storms.

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>But to think that these folks, you know, Amazon has

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 1>a policy where they like take people's phones at the

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>beginning of their shift to like increase productivity. Thinking about

0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 1>people that weren't able to call for help. Um, that

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 1>these folks were out. A lot of these delivery drivers,

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:57.280
<v Speaker 1>um were among the folks that got killed, were out

0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.839
<v Speaker 1>on their shift trying to deliver packages in the middle

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 1>of tornadoes. And we're like, who, I think we should

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:04.800
<v Speaker 1>get back to the warehouse. This is getting kind of

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:06.839
<v Speaker 1>sketch out here, and you know, try to go hide

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 1>in the bathroom, but by that time it's too late. Um.

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 1>It's just really, really deeply sad. A sad account that

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I saw was um a text message exchange from one

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 1>of the employees who was in there, UM where he

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>was like telling his life, Okay, you know, we're among

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 1>we're on the way because the storms come in. I'll

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>be home and a little bit and stuff. And then

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>sometime goes by in between text messages and she's like

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 1>hitting him back, and he's like, Oh, they won't let

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 1>us leave, we gotta stay. Yeah, and then I mean

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that sounds. That sounds there's a liability there. You are

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 1>liable as a business owner for the safety of your

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 1>workers and if any worker or family, Memer can prove

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 1>beyond even like a slight shadow of a doubt that

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:51.840
<v Speaker 1>they had the responsibility at the moment they knew it

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:54.720
<v Speaker 1>was coming, and they knew it was coming. How long

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:58.720
<v Speaker 1>was that tornado track? Do you know? I don't quite

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 1>remember off him, but it was. It was some unbelievably

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:06.319
<v Speaker 1>long tornado track of just the storm cut depositing one

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 1>after one, so it was coming. It was probably had

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 1>a warning. I don't know how long it had a time,

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 1>but if it was an hour or two, they're screwed

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 1>as a company. Why would you do that? That's insane.

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Isn't this on the heels of them trying to do

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 1>union busting, because that that was like this couple of

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago. Yeah, they just declared that they're going to

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 1>have a new election down in Bessemor where they try

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:33.280
<v Speaker 1>to unionize the first UH Amazon distribution center in the country.

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 1>But like other than declaring, they got to do a

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 1>new election to slap them with some fines. Oh fifty

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 1>dollar fine, don't give a ship. That's like, that's like

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.720
<v Speaker 1>pocket change with Jeff Bezou, So he'll be like Wen'll

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, just add a couple of extra zeros

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 1>on the end of that check just because sweeten the deal. Like,

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:52.839
<v Speaker 1>who the funk? You know? So what is true accountability

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 1>in this case? Even if a lawsuit is won. I

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:57.439
<v Speaker 1>would be very happy those for those families to get

0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>that money, but it doesn't really do anything truly punitive

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 1>to the bosses that created these conditions, because they will

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 1>just you know, go about begging their billions still and

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.439
<v Speaker 1>those people will never those people will can never be

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 1>brought back ultimately. Um So it's darts. I wanted to

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 1>put that out there as a reminder though, as we

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:23.240
<v Speaker 1>approach Christmas, etcetera, like don't try, like, don't use Amazon.

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I know you, I know, I know, I love getting

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the ship in two days and like not happen to

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:31.439
<v Speaker 1>go through the home depot and find the fucking ship.

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 1>But there is I don't remember the name of right now.

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>There is a browser extension or you can go on

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Amazon find the thing. That you want, and it will

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:42.080
<v Speaker 1>tell you what other website has the thing, and you

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 1>can click you can click on it, you know, take

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you to the other website we can buy the thing before.

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 1>And so, like all kinds of alternatives out there, don't

0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:52.920
<v Speaker 1>support these motherfucker's with their union busting and their literal

0:40:53.320 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>like just negligence for human life. How the fuck that

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 1>the thing I picked an hour ago get to my

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.799
<v Speaker 1>house without a drone because like this dude woke up

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 1>from a nap in his car and threw it at

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 1>my door. And I'm like, this is unbelievable, and who

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 1>died to get me this ship? This fast? Something wrong?

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 1>It's not really wrong. But the story also raises the

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 1>issue more generally of climate change because the series of

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:27.360
<v Speaker 1>storms this severe in the Midwest. I mean there's a

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of tornadoes up there generally, but this is just

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:36.839
<v Speaker 1>like almost unprecedented and generally warmer, warmer winter period just

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 1>all around. And oh yeah, I was out on a

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:40.400
<v Speaker 1>walk the other day and I was like really bundled

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 1>up because it's supposed to be fucking cold, and I'm like, oh,

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm sweating a little bit, and like I'm like, okay,

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 1>enjoy it. Just enjoy it. Have a nice time. The

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.359
<v Speaker 1>birds are singing, it's sun shining. But like I just

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 1>like the weight upon me of like the promise of extinctions.

0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Just like, yo, this ship. Actually, this is not cool.

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:03.400
<v Speaker 1>It's not cool. I heard a motherfucker talking about it

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 1>being sixty five in Milwaukee the other day. Not cool. Yo,

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 1>that ain't like for real, And I mean anybody who

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:16.720
<v Speaker 1>knows anything about Milwaukee in December, that's like day after tomorrow.

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 1>The heat dome they had in Canada, that was the beginning.

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 1>They had people die because there was a heat dome

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 1>in the beginning of winter. Wait wait, wait, n what's so?

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.400
<v Speaker 1>It's like, imagine a rain system that sits above like

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:36.719
<v Speaker 1>a city that also has sidewalks. The it just it

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 1>basically creates a positive feedback loop where the heat from

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:43.399
<v Speaker 1>the storm is capturing all the heat right and then

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 1>all of the rising air from the sidewalk is causing

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:49.399
<v Speaker 1>it to get stuck and trapped because the cold air

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:53.359
<v Speaker 1>around the storm is is sinking. So what you have

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 1>is like a dome of heat and like the size

0:42:56.040 --> 0:43:03.840
<v Speaker 1>of Texas. I think he killed ten people, yo. Yeah. Yeah,

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>But there's the next level to this is so Amazon

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:10.600
<v Speaker 1>not having a centralized mailing system, so our post office

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 1>is highly efficient. It just is it's super centralized. We

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:18.400
<v Speaker 1>have it to a bare minimum of like gas trips

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 1>from here to here. If there's a local dude that

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Amazon can call deliver my package quicker, that's awful. How

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 1>many packages did he have in his car too? For Like,

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>that's not good. How did they get to his house

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:34.759
<v Speaker 1>a whole another driver? Why didn't it go to a

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>central location? That doesn't make any sense. The cost of

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 1>that is the environment on top of their other ship

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that I don't think anybody's gone that. I didn't even

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 1>think about that. So they're robbing us of our president

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 1>killing people out here today, and they're killing people out

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 1>here tomorrow and Tony Amazon, Amazon and Disney those are

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 1>the two companies to look out for in the next

0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>ten years. When when you see your local police department

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:04.840
<v Speaker 1>with the Mickey Mouse arm patch on, yeah, it's about

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.319
<v Speaker 1>it's about to be bad, Joe, you know what I'm saying.

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:09.520
<v Speaker 1>When when like the when the military is gonna be

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna have the episode Arrow on it? Like what's that movie? Specific?

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Like you're gonna be able to order your own, your

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 1>own dude like me and mac yo, are drones coming

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 1>in to borrow We gotta hurry up and link this

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:36.359
<v Speaker 1>stood up. Eight hundred thousand people ain't no fucking joke, yo.

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 1>That is that is a staggering number that if you

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 1>told Americans that, if you told Americans in February of that,

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 1>come December, the eight hundred thousand people were going to

0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 1>die from one thing. Come on, now, you know what

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean. So it's like like part of the you know,

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 1>part of like the COVID skepticism, whether it becomes you know,

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 1>the COVID vaccine or COVID policy skepticism, whether it's coming

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:13.799
<v Speaker 1>from the right or the left, is I personally can't

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 1>at this point, I can't personally say that I know

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 1>it's because they don't think COVID is that bad. You know,

0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not sure that this wouldn't that people's vaccine

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:28.919
<v Speaker 1>skepticism and sure like that that it wouldn't be going

0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:32.400
<v Speaker 1>if we were having like a worldwide smallpox epidemic, you

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like, I don't I don't feel

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 1>like I don't feel that this is coming from a

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 1>place of like, oh, COVID is not that bad, so

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:42.799
<v Speaker 1>we don't really have to like go overboard with these

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>measures to prevent it. It feels like it just feels

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:47.240
<v Speaker 1>like it's coming from more of a place if people

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:50.759
<v Speaker 1>generally don't care about people anymore, and that it's like

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:55.360
<v Speaker 1>wear a mask, you're taking away my freedom, you know.

0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's just the whole, the whole, the whole discourse

0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 1>around COVID. It just it just it has it's a

0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 1>very It's like when people are talking about climate change

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 1>and you get kind of doo marie about it. Like

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 1>people's reaction to dealing with a global pandemic just has

0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:14.320
<v Speaker 1>me really down in the dumps for like our ability

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:18.320
<v Speaker 1>to come together to solve big issues that affect us all,

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:19.879
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like I'm not really looking

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:21.319
<v Speaker 1>at us thinking that we're going to like get a

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 1>handle on this climate change stuff. When the pandemic went

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:28.719
<v Speaker 1>across the world and killed five billion people in a

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:30.719
<v Speaker 1>year and there's still mad people in the world like

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:33.960
<v Speaker 1>we could have if you think about some of the

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 1>past plagues and pandemics, all the people that didn't take

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 1>any safety measures fucking died. We don't know how many

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:44.800
<v Speaker 1>of those are were this might be the best response

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 1>we've ever had. And you can't really compare us to

0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 1>fifties US, right, like our twenties to fifties US through

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:55.800
<v Speaker 1>from the nineteen fifties, you're like height of America, Captain America.

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:59.439
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's for America. We were in World War one and two,

0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:02.280
<v Speaker 1>everybody was kind of like working together. It was easy

0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 1>to convince us to get vaccines. It's hard now, it's

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 1>just real hard. But but okay, And I hate it

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 1>when I hate it when Libs make the fucking oh COVID.

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like a war. We've got to have a wartime

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 1>footing in a wartime policy and ship like that. I

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 1>hate that. I hate that. But just for the sake

0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 1>of argument, though it's nineteen like forty two, right, or

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 1>whenever whenever Pearl Harbor was bombed or whatever, Pearl Harbor

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:38.279
<v Speaker 1>just got bombed. Germany's taken over most of Europe, them

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:40.960
<v Speaker 1>in Italy, or like, the whole world seems like it's

0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:43.160
<v Speaker 1>on the brink. And if you had a population of

0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:47.799
<v Speaker 1>people who are like you'd have the commercial I think

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:49.640
<v Speaker 1>you got. You guys are going over board now, but

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:51.160
<v Speaker 1>you don't know what you guys are complaining about it.

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 1>You guys, are you trying to take away by freedom?

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to rash and food. Why do you

0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:56.400
<v Speaker 1>guys trying to take away by freedom? Why do I

0:47:56.440 --> 0:48:01.960
<v Speaker 1>have to know? It's missing? Is missing? And this year

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:05.800
<v Speaker 1>and if you haven't got your vaccine, you're not in American?

0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you know this, Mariah Um There there's been some

0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:18.279
<v Speaker 1>studies coming out that have been showing that at this

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 1>point in time, I think the more town like the

0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:24.880
<v Speaker 1>people who are dying, who are have been dying from

0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 1>COVID have been overwhelmingly Republicans. Do you think that that

0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:34.120
<v Speaker 1>could have enough of a shift in in numbers to

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:38.319
<v Speaker 1>like affect election outcomes? I mean they are not to

0:48:38.400 --> 0:48:40.359
<v Speaker 1>save the Democrats in the return, I'm not I'm not

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:42.719
<v Speaker 1>talking about saving the Democrats interns. I just mean, do

0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:45.799
<v Speaker 1>you think that that could affect Republican voter turnout? Well,

0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's say, for example, Georgia flip blue this

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 1>last election cycle, um, and the election of Joe Biden

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:58.400
<v Speaker 1>in Georgia was decided by ten thou votes. Over twenty

0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:01.719
<v Speaker 1>thousand people have died of COVID in the state of Georgia,

0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:06.400
<v Speaker 1>and so I think when we consider the the electoral

0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:10.920
<v Speaker 1>college or statewide races like a Senate race. UM, I

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 1>absolutely do believe that uh COVID death can impact the

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:19.279
<v Speaker 1>results of a coming election. You just gave us the

0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:23.320
<v Speaker 1>ill transition, Mariah, You just gave us the ill transition,

0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:27.520
<v Speaker 1>ill transition because dig this right. Okay, So this report

0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:31.160
<v Speaker 1>came out in the Washington Post with these three retired

0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:34.719
<v Speaker 1>generals right who have been warning that there's enough of

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:38.480
<v Speaker 1>a political fracture within the U. S. Military that should

0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:41.280
<v Speaker 1>a Trump be they had They're not trying to single

0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:43.439
<v Speaker 1>out Trump because they're saying that this honestly, they're saying

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:45.920
<v Speaker 1>that the riff could go either way. But they're saying

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:50.319
<v Speaker 1>that if the next election were to be called, you know,

0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 1>called into dispute, that there's enough of a fracture that

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:57.840
<v Speaker 1>they can foresee elements of the military being like, oh no,

0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 1>our guy didn't lose and in going with them, and

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 1>that could cause civil dispute, possible civil war. I'm gonna

0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 1>read you this excerpt from the Daily Beast. Three retired

0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:11.920
<v Speaker 1>three retired Army generals have warned of insurrection, possibly even

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:15.360
<v Speaker 1>civil war if the results of presidential election are not

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:19.960
<v Speaker 1>accepted by sections of the military. Retired retired Major General

0:50:20.040 --> 0:50:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Paul D. Eaton Antonio M. To Guba joined retired Brigadier

0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:29.120
<v Speaker 1>General Stephen M. Anderson and urged today's leaders to act

0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:32.640
<v Speaker 1>to prevent such scenes by calling on today's leaders to

0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 1>do war games of an attempted coup. The former military

0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 1>leaders said that they're increasingly concerned about the potential for

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 1>lethal chaos inside the military, which would put Americans at

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:47.080
<v Speaker 1>severe risk in the aftermath of an election. Now, if

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about margins being so thin that states were

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:56.760
<v Speaker 1>flipped historically on ten thousand votes, and then we're talking

0:50:56.760 --> 0:51:02.680
<v Speaker 1>about a party that's being reckless in vaccine policy to

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to to you know, mitigate a deadly disease. If we're

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:09.520
<v Speaker 1>talking about those numbers are taking shaving off twenty thousand

0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:12.360
<v Speaker 1>of them here, five thousand of them here in that county.

0:51:13.239 --> 0:51:16.960
<v Speaker 1>If the Democrats are able to squeak out victories and

0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:19.440
<v Speaker 1>mid the mid terms and then again going to the

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:22.320
<v Speaker 1>presidential election, the Democrats are able to squeak out numbers

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:27.560
<v Speaker 1>because the dumbass Republicans got themselves sick on covid YO,

0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:33.600
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna lose their ship. Like they're like like that

0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 1>ship is gonna make that January ships ship January six

0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:41.440
<v Speaker 1>thing look like a cookout. Man, I'm trying to think.

0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, when they say civil war, they mean like

0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:48.759
<v Speaker 1>a militias. Well, I mean, I think civil war in

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:53.719
<v Speaker 1>this context is hyperbolic and in a lot of ways metaphorical.

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:57.080
<v Speaker 1>But I just think, like like they're talking about like

0:51:57.400 --> 0:51:59.840
<v Speaker 1>some road communits and stuff like that, you know, what

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:02.640
<v Speaker 1>acting independently to do. Because I mean, you know, we

0:52:02.640 --> 0:52:05.319
<v Speaker 1>we've mentioned this before, but if you wake up, if

0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:07.239
<v Speaker 1>you wake up in the morning and you scirl on

0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Twitter and you read, oh, a group of fifty dudes

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:14.799
<v Speaker 1>stormed the Montana Capital House and took it over, you

0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:16.879
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, just imagined ship like that, But

0:52:17.560 --> 0:52:20.600
<v Speaker 1>it happens like six times in one day, you know,

0:52:20.719 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and then and then the local law and for the

0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 1>local authorities have to go deal with that incident or again.

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:28.880
<v Speaker 1>You know. I mean, you know, we've got like like

0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 1>people shouldn't overlook that. It's like, you know, like Dylan

0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:35.200
<v Speaker 1>russ attack was like a politically motivated right wing attack,

0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:37.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the Al Paso shooter in Texas, like

0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:39.879
<v Speaker 1>that was the politically motivated, like a lot of these

0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:43.879
<v Speaker 1>mass shootings and things that happen are politically motivated. It's

0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 1>just because of Overton window, that link isn't necessarily drawn

0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:53.680
<v Speaker 1>in in you know, harped on in the news. So

0:52:53.760 --> 0:52:55.879
<v Speaker 1>in this event, you know, just kind of think that,

0:52:56.000 --> 0:52:58.680
<v Speaker 1>but think of it more organized and with military guys

0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:01.640
<v Speaker 1>behind it. Because I was at first wondering if it

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:05.319
<v Speaker 1>was like between factions in the public, in which case

0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:07.480
<v Speaker 1>we're not looking at a civil war, we're looking at

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:11.880
<v Speaker 1>a genocide. Well, you had a you had a general

0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:14.719
<v Speaker 1>in where is it. I don't want to say the

0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:17.879
<v Speaker 1>wrong state, but you know, Mississippi, Alabamash type of state.

0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:21.000
<v Speaker 1>But this guy actually came out of his mouth saying, Oh,

0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:25.920
<v Speaker 1>our state's national guard doesn't work for the federal government. Bro, nigga,

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 1>what like is the national guard? Motherfucker? But ship like

0:53:30.040 --> 0:53:31.879
<v Speaker 1>that is starting to happen, you know what I mean.

0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:35.319
<v Speaker 1>So this we're not we're not talking about like like, oh,

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:38.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe people that John served with, you know what I'm saying.

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:40.640
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about like, motherfucker's who are in the ship

0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 1>now with rank Don't forget Michael Flynn was the National

0:53:45.840 --> 0:53:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Security Advisor. But like you know, like, it doesn't get

0:53:50.200 --> 0:53:52.279
<v Speaker 1>any higher than that. It doesn't, it really does not

0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:54.320
<v Speaker 1>get like that's you know, that's like one of the

0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:56.759
<v Speaker 1>highest positions that a military man can have, you know

0:53:56.800 --> 0:53:58.440
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, and still be a military man and

0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:01.719
<v Speaker 1>not have to be a civilian. So it's like, I

0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:04.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I just it's just one of those things.

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:07.359
<v Speaker 1>It would be hard. So you may not know this,

0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:11.359
<v Speaker 1>but it takes to like move a single just let's

0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:14.879
<v Speaker 1>say you have like a twelve man group within like

0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:18.720
<v Speaker 1>a hundred man squad of some sort in any military unit.

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 1>To get your weapons, you don't have to go to

0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:23.719
<v Speaker 1>another building and talk to an armor who has to

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:26.799
<v Speaker 1>get approval from a first sergeant. It's just it's kind

0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:29.240
<v Speaker 1>of like one of those conspiracy windows. It would take

0:54:30.239 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 1>probably eighty people to approve you leaving with soldiers from

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:38.680
<v Speaker 1>a base with a valid excuse and an operation plan,

0:54:39.160 --> 0:54:41.480
<v Speaker 1>and then to get AMMO is a whole another route

0:54:41.600 --> 0:54:43.720
<v Speaker 1>you have to go to do another There's no AMMO

0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:46.800
<v Speaker 1>depot near weapons in any military base for a reason

0:54:47.000 --> 0:54:51.600
<v Speaker 1>because nobody who has higher brass trusts anybody who isn't

0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:57.640
<v Speaker 1>for the most part. But if but can you can

0:54:57.680 --> 0:55:02.200
<v Speaker 1>you say, like with full confidence at some of these

0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:07.520
<v Speaker 1>gatekeepers and barriers of them. So the reason, the reason

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:12.600
<v Speaker 1>why seven is because your brain they know their brainwashing

0:55:12.600 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you on purpose when you're coming in, your susceptibility, like

0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:18.400
<v Speaker 1>if you were to be assessed by the FBI just

0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:22.080
<v Speaker 1>coming out of the military is really really fucking high.

0:55:22.400 --> 0:55:24.560
<v Speaker 1>This is why there's like debriefs in the army when

0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:27.200
<v Speaker 1>you do like crazy exotic ship. When you come back,

0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:29.399
<v Speaker 1>they have to like talk about what you did, Let's

0:55:29.440 --> 0:55:31.759
<v Speaker 1>talk about how that affects the mission plan, because they

0:55:31.800 --> 0:55:34.800
<v Speaker 1>don't want you to come away with the idea that

0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:37.719
<v Speaker 1>there's a conspiracy involved in some way and you to

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:42.359
<v Speaker 1>tell another person. They're pretty balls deep about what what

0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:44.600
<v Speaker 1>level of detail they'll go into to make sure that

0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:47.080
<v Speaker 1>you're not leaving a base with weapons. But that doesn't

0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:49.560
<v Speaker 1>mean it can't have. Now, like you said, let's say

0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:53.560
<v Speaker 1>there's a brigadier general at a National Guard base in Virginia. Right,

0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:57.799
<v Speaker 1>Let's say that his first sergeant and lieutenants are all

0:55:57.880 --> 0:56:01.239
<v Speaker 1>on the Trump train, and then let's ay he has

0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:04.120
<v Speaker 1>to disseminate to his squad leaders to get all the

0:56:04.239 --> 0:56:07.160
<v Speaker 1>lower guys because it wouldn't be no general can go

0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:10.280
<v Speaker 1>and wake you up in your tent or your bunk,

0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:12.640
<v Speaker 1>wherever you're at, no matter how low rank you are,

0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:14.719
<v Speaker 1>that's not his job, and it would be odd and

0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:17.719
<v Speaker 1>everybody would stop him from his function or from doing that.

0:56:19.880 --> 0:56:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I know. So there was like and it's only because

0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:29.239
<v Speaker 1>the level of they brainwashed you to come in and

0:56:29.280 --> 0:56:34.640
<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a poor term. So it's in indoctrination process, right,

0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:37.400
<v Speaker 1>just like if you came from another country to America,

0:56:37.719 --> 0:56:39.759
<v Speaker 1>we it doesn't sound as bad, but we'd have to

0:56:39.800 --> 0:56:42.759
<v Speaker 1>indoctrinate you to like our ways. If you were to

0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:45.720
<v Speaker 1>immigrate in let's say you were like somebody that worked

0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:47.600
<v Speaker 1>with the U. S. Military in a foreign country that

0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:49.480
<v Speaker 1>we worked in, we brought you in here, we would

0:56:49.520 --> 0:56:52.120
<v Speaker 1>have to indoctrinate you into how everything works here because

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:56.600
<v Speaker 1>we can't expect you to perform without breaking laws. If

0:56:56.640 --> 0:56:59.640
<v Speaker 1>you were to come from Afghanistan and or Iraq, I

0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:03.080
<v Speaker 1>think the same thing. We don't give anybody that works

0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:06.760
<v Speaker 1>in a military unit that's not super high ranked any

0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:12.360
<v Speaker 1>power except for over other soldiers. Like you can't get items,

0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:15.479
<v Speaker 1>you can't get equipment. There's another dude, and then you're

0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:21.680
<v Speaker 1>looking at them. Are not white, So you're gonna have

0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:24.240
<v Speaker 1>to convince a lot of people have a lot of lies.

0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:28.960
<v Speaker 1>From my view, I think one of the one of

0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the things that the generals were saying, though, is that

0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:35.160
<v Speaker 1>some of that can a lot of that convinced. That's

0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 1>the scary part, You're right, happen is the point that

0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:39.960
<v Speaker 1>that's the point that they're making because one of the

0:57:40.000 --> 0:57:43.720
<v Speaker 1>solutions that they suggested, like their their call to action,

0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:45.160
<v Speaker 1>as it would be. It's not like they just put

0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:47.880
<v Speaker 1>out there we're scared, you know what I mean, Like

0:57:47.920 --> 0:57:49.800
<v Speaker 1>they actually feel that they have a solution. But their

0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:55.160
<v Speaker 1>solution was that every single member of the military have

0:57:55.360 --> 0:57:59.880
<v Speaker 1>to over undergo civics reviews. Not a bad idea because

0:58:00.120 --> 0:58:02.640
<v Speaker 1>they've they've identified that, like because they're like like people

0:58:02.800 --> 0:58:05.919
<v Speaker 1>to make sure everybody knows who they're supposed to take

0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:10.160
<v Speaker 1>orders from, how the American government actually functions, who your

0:58:10.200 --> 0:58:14.400
<v Speaker 1>bosses are, because, like we've been saying it, don't know

0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:18.400
<v Speaker 1>how the government. Most Americans can identify how many chambers

0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:21.040
<v Speaker 1>of government that there are, Like that motherfucker's don't know

0:58:21.400 --> 0:58:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the secession order. They don't know who becomes president when

0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:26.520
<v Speaker 1>this person dies or when that like a lot of

0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:29.320
<v Speaker 1>these things are ship that's just kind of been taken

0:58:29.360 --> 0:58:33.280
<v Speaker 1>for granted just off of like the strength of America. Fun. Yeah,

0:58:33.720 --> 0:58:37.400
<v Speaker 1>that you know, I just I'm not I'm not too

0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:42.360
<v Speaker 1>confident that just off the strength of confusion and not

0:58:42.480 --> 0:58:45.120
<v Speaker 1>knowing who to take orders from, that that ship couldn't

0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:48.960
<v Speaker 1>go down, let alone having like, you know, a good

0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:54.560
<v Speaker 1>chunk of the military World War two, What did we

0:58:54.600 --> 0:58:57.400
<v Speaker 1>have a bunch of soldiers from Germany saying that I

0:58:57.520 --> 0:59:00.040
<v Speaker 1>was just following order. I mean, you're looking at the

0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:05.560
<v Speaker 1>same situation and we're getting warnings in a similar way. Um.

0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I could I could point you there's there's

0:59:07.560 --> 0:59:10.680
<v Speaker 1>mad countries in Africa where all it took is three

0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:14.320
<v Speaker 1>hundred dudes in the bush organized to bring the whole

0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:16.800
<v Speaker 1>ship down, the whole ship, you know what I'm saying.

0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:18.920
<v Speaker 1>So if we're even even if we were even if

0:59:18.960 --> 0:59:23.520
<v Speaker 1>we're playing like even if we're even if we're downplaying

0:59:23.600 --> 0:59:26.439
<v Speaker 1>it to like the highest extent that we can, even

0:59:26.440 --> 0:59:29.920
<v Speaker 1>if we want to be like yo, there's only like

0:59:30.320 --> 0:59:35.320
<v Speaker 1>one percent of the American military that would be down

0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:38.240
<v Speaker 1>to the ship we're riding with. What's that? I think

0:59:38.240 --> 0:59:39.880
<v Speaker 1>it's bigger than that too, But I'm just saying, just

0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:42.400
<v Speaker 1>for Devil's advocate, let's just say that it's only one percent.

0:59:42.600 --> 0:59:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Well what's one percent of people? Well, here's what I'm

0:59:46.520 --> 0:59:48.880
<v Speaker 1>thinking is that it's not so much that like they're

0:59:48.920 --> 0:59:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the threat is of an organized like institutional affront on

0:59:55.400 --> 0:59:59.920
<v Speaker 1>our democratic institutions. I mean, just drawing from a person

1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:03.560
<v Speaker 1>old experience, had a cousin who was in the military,

1:00:03.880 --> 1:00:07.280
<v Speaker 1>who learned how to kill people real good, um, and

1:00:07.320 --> 1:00:10.520
<v Speaker 1>who then ran away from the military and killed someone

1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:13.600
<v Speaker 1>and so because partially because of the way it had

1:00:13.760 --> 1:00:16.560
<v Speaker 1>being in the military had broken him, but also probably

1:00:16.560 --> 1:00:19.400
<v Speaker 1>because he knew a lot about weapons and a bunch

1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:21.720
<v Speaker 1>of other ship that made it easy to go out

1:00:21.760 --> 1:00:24.240
<v Speaker 1>and fox somebody up real bad and take a life.

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<v Speaker 1>And so imagining what individuals who have that kind of

1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:31.400
<v Speaker 1>training in their individual capacity out you know, perhaps they've

1:00:31.400 --> 1:00:34.680
<v Speaker 1>been distarted from the military or bad or whatever. Um,

1:00:34.720 --> 1:00:39.240
<v Speaker 1>how that that knowledge can be used um two personal ends,

1:00:39.280 --> 1:00:41.960
<v Speaker 1>perhaps in an organized fashion if like a group of

1:00:42.160 --> 1:00:44.880
<v Speaker 1>such folks comes together, so like, yo, we've taken on

1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:47.400
<v Speaker 1>the capitol or some ship. I think from what Jonna said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a lot less worried about like the actual military

1:00:49.640 --> 1:00:53.760
<v Speaker 1>rising up versus like former members of the military utilizing

1:00:53.800 --> 1:00:58.320
<v Speaker 1>what they know about warfare do warfare. That that is

1:00:58.360 --> 1:01:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's to me, it seems like that

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<v Speaker 1>is the that's the situation at hand, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't think that like like like you said, Mariah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that there's necessarily a threat of like

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<v Speaker 1>the military itself being like, oh, we're you know, like

1:01:15.120 --> 1:01:18.760
<v Speaker 1>a part in the Specifically they're warning about rogue units,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, like like people breaking off

1:01:21.760 --> 1:01:24.040
<v Speaker 1>from the military to do exactly so I'm using the

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<v Speaker 1>training that they have to do other ship that's not

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<v Speaker 1>in the interest of anybody is. And and with that,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel that that's a very very realistic possibility. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, none, none of this ship fires and numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we'll we'll give ourselves a false sense

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<v Speaker 1>of security by thinking that the numbers aren't there, because ay,

1:01:43.720 --> 1:01:45.560
<v Speaker 1>we don't know that the numbers are there, but be

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<v Speaker 1>it just takes one dude to be like, maga, I'm

1:01:51.120 --> 1:01:56.000
<v Speaker 1>going into that nightclub with a gun. True. That's that's like,

1:01:56.160 --> 1:01:58.880
<v Speaker 1>that's like a hundred lives ruined. You know what. I'm saying,

1:01:59.000 --> 1:02:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you got two of those guys was doing that, that's

1:02:01.000 --> 1:02:03.480
<v Speaker 1>two lives ruined. You know what I'm saying. If you

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<v Speaker 1>got like fifteen thousand, and that's being a conservative, yeah,

1:02:07.360 --> 1:02:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean a very conservative number. If you have fifteen thousand,

1:02:10.640 --> 1:02:12.880
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker's are like yo, the next time as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>they give the word all right, we're doing it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't think that's you know, and each

1:02:20.080 --> 1:02:23.200
<v Speaker 1>one of them is. I just know, And that's the

1:02:23.240 --> 1:02:25.880
<v Speaker 1>ship I'm scared of. So I've told Mac this before,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, I don't know if anybody if you can

1:02:28.680 --> 1:02:32.320
<v Speaker 1>research it when we get off, but white nationalists have

1:02:32.400 --> 1:02:36.160
<v Speaker 1>been trying to sneak people into military units for years.

1:02:36.320 --> 1:02:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I had one in mind, a very vocal one that

1:02:39.640 --> 1:02:42.120
<v Speaker 1>they probably should have done something over. I mean I

1:02:42.160 --> 1:02:44.120
<v Speaker 1>told Mac about this, like when I got out. I'm like, no,

1:02:44.200 --> 1:02:47.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't understand. There's people they just they just let

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<v Speaker 1>this go. They don't care. Everybody's brought it up to

1:02:50.640 --> 1:02:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the higher up people and they're like, hey, yeah, we trained.

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<v Speaker 1>If we don't care, we don't give a fuck. And

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<v Speaker 1>where does he go when he leaves? Alright, Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to take a little break, but when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back, we're going to be talking about some

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<v Speaker 1>sad news in the world of hip hop. So we

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<v Speaker 1>will be right back after the jump. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you guys are picking up my puppy growling,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's growling. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we are back

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<v Speaker 1>and we've got some music news for that ass. Unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>starting out with a bit of sad news, right, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to you want to tackle this? Yeah, So drinking

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<v Speaker 1>O the Ruler Um was really tragically stabbed and killed

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<v Speaker 1>Um at the Once Upon a Time Um at Once

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<v Speaker 1>Upon a Time as an l A concert at the

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<v Speaker 1>Bank of California Stadium. Um, a person with direct knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>of the incident, told The l A Times that Um

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<v Speaker 1>he'd been attacked backstage by a group of people. Paramedics

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<v Speaker 1>responded to reports of the stabbing at the stadium on

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<v Speaker 1>eight forty pm and direk He was taken to the

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<v Speaker 1>hospital and critical condition and later died. Um Stoop Dog Um,

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<v Speaker 1>in a statement, said that he had heard about the

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<v Speaker 1>incident while in his dressing room getting ready to perform,

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<v Speaker 1>and chose to immediately leave the festival grounds and since

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<v Speaker 1>then been calling for peace for non violence, people to

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<v Speaker 1>put down the weapons, put down their beef, and stop

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<v Speaker 1>kill him another. Because we have lost a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>folks this year, UM and in general and hip hop,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just too frequent in occurrence, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>find it heartening occasionally when rappers kind of stand up

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<v Speaker 1>and speak out about the need for us to find

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<v Speaker 1>peace to resolve conflicts non violently. But with these things,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it lacks a framework. Like it's easy

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<v Speaker 1>to say, but like, what does that mean? What does

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<v Speaker 1>that look like? Who is modeling that for people? Who

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<v Speaker 1>is um, you know, uh, proselytizing with the Gospel of

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<v Speaker 1>what that actually would would look like in practice? Is

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<v Speaker 1>the is the element that is missing when folks respond

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<v Speaker 1>to killings in this way. I've I'm you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>my my two cents on this is like and I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, I definitely don't. I'm not gonna be able

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<v Speaker 1>to just say ship that people might just want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear to make them feel better and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is coming on the heels of Young Dolf

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<v Speaker 1>being gunned down, rapper Young Dolf being gunned down in

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<v Speaker 1>his hometown, and after that happened a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>after that happened, rapper for the rapper Freddie Gibbs and

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<v Speaker 1>the rapper Jim Jones got into a similar situation to

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<v Speaker 1>this one, like a crew on crew beef beat down

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<v Speaker 1>at some public spot that didn't result with anybody getting stabbed.

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<v Speaker 1>It just resulted with somebody people getting severely beaten and

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<v Speaker 1>it was celebrated on the internet for a week. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm serious, I'm like that every hip hop political publication

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about Freddie Gibbs and Jim Jones got in

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<v Speaker 1>to fight. It's so awesome, world star, world star, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. And then literally the next week,

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<v Speaker 1>the same situation should happens, except somebody has a knife

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody gets stabbed. Somebody could have had a gun

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<v Speaker 1>and bust off shots. And then we're having a different

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<v Speaker 1>different discussions together. So there comes up there. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it just seems like there comes a point where like

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<v Speaker 1>we're not talking about like sixteen year old kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like like some of these people are grown men, and

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<v Speaker 1>like there has to be like some accountability of like,

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<v Speaker 1>ye know, what the funk are we doing having a

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<v Speaker 1>brawl and ship you know, like everybody's everybody's rich where

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<v Speaker 1>they're like to make me. And again, this is like

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<v Speaker 1>not putting any blame on any any victims of any

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<v Speaker 1>of the situations. But if you know, if like we

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<v Speaker 1>were more fortunate and somebody didn't have a knife, then

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<v Speaker 1>this would this I have no reason to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>people wouldn't be like bigging up this whole situation like

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<v Speaker 1>it was some cool ship just because somebody didn't lose

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<v Speaker 1>their life, like the like the the the chaos itself

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<v Speaker 1>is cool, you know, I mean, but you can't just

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<v Speaker 1>say stop doing that. You have to offer people alternative. So, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you beat in with someone. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it may have spoken on a recent episode about how

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<v Speaker 1>this group in l A set up a boxing ring

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<v Speaker 1>and when they were hearing about beefs going down to

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<v Speaker 1>the community and like, oh they're about to go by

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<v Speaker 1>and spring up your spot, they would bring people together

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<v Speaker 1>to get in the boxing ring and put on boxing

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<v Speaker 1>gloves and duke it out there, because it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of harder to kill somebody if you bang on the

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<v Speaker 1>head with a boxing glove. Um in in a monitor

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<v Speaker 1>environment in which if it gets out of hand, there's

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<v Speaker 1>people who could break up the conflict, and yet it

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<v Speaker 1>was shown to be a really promising way to settle

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<v Speaker 1>dispute because eventually somebody wins and somebody loses, and that

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. You got your conflict resolution, get out

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<v Speaker 1>the ring. Nobody died, and so it's still giving something

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<v Speaker 1>you know or like people just don't have, because conflict

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<v Speaker 1>resolution is not to something social, it's also something psycho social.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that you have to you have to

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<v Speaker 1>have the problem solving skills and the learned behaviors, the

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<v Speaker 1>reasoning in order to understand different ways of duking this out,

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<v Speaker 1>like and if you are have always been funneled into

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<v Speaker 1>one way of thinking, Oh, I've been disrespected, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go stab this nigger, like that's all you know how

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<v Speaker 1>to do. You have to absolutely saying it's unacceptable, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. But like if you say, don't do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't give anyone an idea of what else they're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to do and engage in the intensive process of

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<v Speaker 1>helping lead someone in that new direction, it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>platitude to make someone else does to make Snoop Dogg

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<v Speaker 1>look better. I agree. I mean, I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 1>I've got the answers or anything like that, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not even approaching it from that. But I just feel

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<v Speaker 1>like if we have to organize a charity boxing event

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<v Speaker 1>or else, I'm susceptible to stab somebody in the neck.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like, that's that's like a problem with me. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like I have an issue that

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be addressed. If like you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, you know, I mean, because everything you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying is right and I agree with it, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>like there comes a certain point where it's like you

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<v Speaker 1>you can't recognize if we see these guys it's on site,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna while out, and then when the wild out happens, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean somebody should have done something, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody should have done something about it when it's like

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<v Speaker 1>they're the ones who were you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, I just it's just if I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't know what's gonna stop it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like we we could have been having this conversation resting

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<v Speaker 1>and fights, you know, like we were having at nineties seven.

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<v Speaker 1>We were having this conversation in two thousand two odd man,

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<v Speaker 1>Why is why is ja rule fifty? Stabbing each other

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio and ship like that we're having, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just like it just takes one variable to

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<v Speaker 1>these situations to turn it tragic and for it to

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<v Speaker 1>not just be like some a haha, that was like

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<v Speaker 1>a scuffle that you know, people got over. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>just in the realm of celebrity and show business in general,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm sure many times people are in rooms with

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucker's that they hate, you know, even if we're just

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<v Speaker 1>talking about rappers, I'm sure plenty of rappers go into

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<v Speaker 1>situations where there's a crew they got beef with, or

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<v Speaker 1>there's guys that they don't like, or there's something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that extra step, like, well, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what element it is that makes people like yo, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, it's funny. I don't know. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a different view. I feel like, uh, it's amazing that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not worse. So I remember coming to the conclusion

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<v Speaker 1>a long time ago. I don't know what I read.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't tell you, but that, uh, money isn't just evil,

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<v Speaker 1>It's really just a representation of resources in our society, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if I have five drops of water left and

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<v Speaker 1>this motherfucker wants four of them, and while he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want four of them, but what he wants to do

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<v Speaker 1>is take my image. An image in this society is

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<v Speaker 1>really highly prized for somebody that's in the image game.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, any affront to that money or resource is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna result in some violence. I don't know, I could

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<v Speaker 1>kind of, but I know it's bad. It's that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying. I'm amazed that it's not worse, honestly. So,

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<v Speaker 1>like take take nineteen early ES wrap and what we

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<v Speaker 1>were saying then about the drug game and prostitutes, all

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<v Speaker 1>the worship you could imagine, and now imagine you had

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<v Speaker 1>an online reputation to keep on top of that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I feel like we're doing a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>better than I thought we would. I thought this ship

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<v Speaker 1>would have blown up a long time ago. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think the data backs up what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>because crimes of all kinds are historic lows, with the

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<v Speaker 1>exception of murder unfortunately, but like aggravated insults and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that, lesser but still violent offenses are going down.

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<v Speaker 1>So like things are in on on like a macro level,

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<v Speaker 1>better than they have ever been. But that doesn't negate

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that like every time we lose someone that's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the whole family that's devastated, friends and friends

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, colleagues that are devastated, fans that are devastated,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the trauma really ripples wide. But honestly thinks

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<v Speaker 1>like it isn't like it like it could be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot worse. Like John said, where are the o g s?

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<v Speaker 1>Is my question? Where are the because I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>ogs like Snoop Dogg or say, everyone put the guns down, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what are they instead of a gun? He's been forever,

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel I don't. But that's what I feel like.

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<v Speaker 1>I I that's the thing that I personally don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, what are you supposed to pick up instead

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<v Speaker 1>of a gun? Like how about you started rapping? Like

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<v Speaker 1>like whether you know? And this is not to put

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<v Speaker 1>the blame on Drake you, but like all the motherfucker's

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<v Speaker 1>who are in is Crewe. It's like y'all been crewed

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<v Speaker 1>up with Homie this whole time so that he could

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<v Speaker 1>get into position to where y'all like we don't got

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the streets in the back smoothing with

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<v Speaker 1>the stars and ship like that. Who is the O

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<v Speaker 1>G that's gonna like be like, Yo, this is ridiculous, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone show I mean or even like, let's handle this

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<v Speaker 1>another time somewhere else, like like like that's that statement

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<v Speaker 1>that Snoop Dogg made would have been real dope to

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<v Speaker 1>not be in a letter hour after a motherfucker was

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<v Speaker 1>already stabbed in debt. It would have been It would

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<v Speaker 1>have been cool to see a viral video Snoop Dogg

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<v Speaker 1>and his crew standing in the middle of those two

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<v Speaker 1>crews like yo, young man, I'm fifty, I'm the O G.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me let me you guys calm down, because like

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<v Speaker 1>coming up growing up in hip hop, there's mad stories

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<v Speaker 1>about O G rappers stopping the rappers of our generation

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<v Speaker 1>from killing and shooting each other and ship like that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a reason that a lot of people don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that nas In Tupac had beef. Know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>There's a reason a lot of people don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>MC hammer almost got Motherfucker's shot for dissing them for

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that he was sweet. You know what I mean

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<v Speaker 1>because O G s were like, yo, man, we're making millions.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop the ship. And that's what I just feel is

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<v Speaker 1>like there's like a disconnect, you know. I mean maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it might be a generational I don't know. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily think that that's the that that it's like

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<v Speaker 1>that cut and dry, but there is a failing in

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<v Speaker 1>this situation that goes beyond well, what would they supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to do other than like start a massive like melee

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<v Speaker 1>and fight each other? Like you know, it's it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I hear what you're saying, right, but it's like there's

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<v Speaker 1>another event where it's like I just can't look at

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<v Speaker 1>that mass a young man and think that everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>there is just like a mindless, impulsive, instinctive animal is

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna react and can't like critically think for them.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, like, hey, guys, like we're having like

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking like fifty men like fight at this show,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, I mean like maybe we should maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we should chill right now. Like I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that's like too great of an expectation or to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>am I making sense? So what do you do when

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<v Speaker 1>someone disrespects you? Mac? I mean it's for me personally. Yeah, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do personally when you're disrespected by someone personally?

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<v Speaker 1>From like you know, and again just the personal thing,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can't put that on anybody else personally. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the ways that I have lived my life is

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<v Speaker 1>I have lived to be the age that I am

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<v Speaker 1>never having caused any harm to another black person. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just me. That's me. I've never and John, you were there,

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<v Speaker 1>so you've you've seen me in the ships, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've definitely been in my share of fights.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in my share of drunken things. But I've

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<v Speaker 1>put myself in a situation to where if I were

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<v Speaker 1>in a situation that was going to lead me to

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<v Speaker 1>potentially have to be in a physical confrontation with another

1:15:35.800 --> 1:15:38.920
<v Speaker 1>black human being, I'll take that l I'll get embarrassed,

1:15:38.920 --> 1:15:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll I'll back pussy down or whatever. I'll do that

1:15:41.160 --> 1:15:43.040
<v Speaker 1>because I don't want to be in that situation, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. And just generally, like in a situation,

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<v Speaker 1>like what do I do when I when I'm disrespected?

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<v Speaker 1>I tend to think about what the worst possible outcome

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<v Speaker 1>of a scenario could be, and that affects how I

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<v Speaker 1>go about doing stuff, you know what I mean. So

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<v Speaker 1>I always imagine a motherfucker might have a gun. Is

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<v Speaker 1>the number one thing that I go to when whenever

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in a confrontation. So man, fuck you, Well fuck you.

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<v Speaker 1>What you're gonna do about it? Man, I'll kick man.

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<v Speaker 1>These motherfucker's a stupid ye know, these motherfucking stupid They

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<v Speaker 1>got guys, I'm not, you got it? Whatever. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>usually like my response to ship like that. People can

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<v Speaker 1>make fun of that, and people can be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. But it's like if if the choices, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what was I supposed to do other than stab them?

1:16:32.400 --> 1:16:34.479
<v Speaker 1>Then you know, then I'm that I'm a pump. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just illustrating that, like sharing our personal expertise on

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<v Speaker 1>the alternatives to engaging with violence. For me, when I

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<v Speaker 1>get disrespected, I might go take a walk, I might

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<v Speaker 1>say right about it. Sure, like you said, that might

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<v Speaker 1>be seen as pussy ship, but it's these are these

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<v Speaker 1>are alternative norms that can be shared within the community

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<v Speaker 1>of hip hop, but aren't being for one for one

1:17:01.000 --> 1:17:04.040
<v Speaker 1>reason or another. Um, So that's what I'm saying, Like

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<v Speaker 1>We'll put the gun down and pick up what it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a show. Put your shoes on and take

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<v Speaker 1>a lap, bitch. Like you were a writer, you like

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<v Speaker 1>to write bar sit down and write about how piste

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<v Speaker 1>off you are by this nick that's talking about you. See,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm popularizing other ways of dealing with this is

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean when I say put the guns down

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<v Speaker 1>and pick up something else. You're you're you know you're right,

1:17:26.840 --> 1:17:29.519
<v Speaker 1>and and that that you're right, and that that just

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<v Speaker 1>that takes you know, it's it depends on the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are in those situations. It requires a huge norm

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<v Speaker 1>is a huge cultural shift. Yeah, if I if I

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<v Speaker 1>were a rapper that we're at that level to where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, I meant rolling loud and these festivals

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<v Speaker 1>and ship like that. In like a situation like that

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<v Speaker 1>played out, it would be a viral video of like

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<v Speaker 1>this dude screaming at me and me like being like

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<v Speaker 1>a why you know what I mean, like being like

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking dick head white and that's like just like

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<v Speaker 1>dissing on him and like us like just like like

1:17:59.080 --> 1:18:01.559
<v Speaker 1>hurling insults in our crews, yelling and you can't hear

1:18:01.560 --> 1:18:03.320
<v Speaker 1>everything you'd be like, oh, do you guys see that

1:18:03.520 --> 1:18:06.880
<v Speaker 1>video where Dope Knives crew and such and such crew

1:18:06.960 --> 1:18:08.559
<v Speaker 1>were like yelling at each other and screwing each other,

1:18:08.640 --> 1:18:11.240
<v Speaker 1>And that's what would have been with it. Because if

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<v Speaker 1>I see you motherfucking my crew swing, I'm shutting it down.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I'm like, I am going to have the

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<v Speaker 1>wherewithal to be like, yo, guys, this is my job.

1:18:24.160 --> 1:18:25.439
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Like, this is how I

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<v Speaker 1>make money. If I was working at the car wash,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all niggas wouldn't be coming in here starting starting to

1:18:30.080 --> 1:18:32.680
<v Speaker 1>fight with somebody working because that that's gonna sunk up

1:18:32.680 --> 1:18:35.080
<v Speaker 1>my job in my livelihood. So that kind of thing

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<v Speaker 1>has to be taught. When everybody's talking about being a

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<v Speaker 1>businessman in a mogul and I'm making billions and I'm

1:18:46.360 --> 1:18:50.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to take over no right from wrong, They're not

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<v Speaker 1>like idiots. They know they know what they're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing. Somebody who was in that situation new hey man,

1:18:58.200 --> 1:19:03.080
<v Speaker 1>this is absolutely ridiculous. Everybody, however, was caught up in like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh this was cool cruises fighting. We don't have we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the details on this incident. Whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>someone tried to intervene and prevent the stabbing, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>say that nobody didn't. It was this was the stabbing.

1:19:15.920 --> 1:19:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Stabbing was a show, just like the crew fight. It

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<v Speaker 1>was security and both of the like I'm not I'm not,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I can't imagine being famous like one of

1:19:29.560 --> 1:19:32.519
<v Speaker 1>the crews, one of the crews. People are they just bros?

1:19:32.640 --> 1:19:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I want I want some dude I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>to like diligently unless he loses his job to be

1:19:39.320 --> 1:19:41.720
<v Speaker 1>like watching entrances and ship. I don't want to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with that ship? Why would someone want to deal with

1:19:43.760 --> 1:19:46.759
<v Speaker 1>that ship? But I don't know When I was younger.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was younger, horribly mac knew me at the

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<v Speaker 1>precipice of me like me realizing that everything is not

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<v Speaker 1>the way I thought it was, right, Like I kind

1:19:56.880 --> 1:20:00.720
<v Speaker 1>of had a post military awakening of military are you awakening?

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<v Speaker 1>And all of this was just defended on who I

1:20:03.760 --> 1:20:07.000
<v Speaker 1>read and what I watched right like anybody else. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean now I have a ralsey and approach, like

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<v Speaker 1>what would this look like if everybody did what I did? Right?

1:20:12.880 --> 1:20:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Like how would I create a set of rules and

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<v Speaker 1>not know who I would be when they're enforced. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that's how I would do it now.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is like some like step twelve logic ship

1:20:25.439 --> 1:20:30.479
<v Speaker 1>that I don't know what step one is. Yeah, Mariah,

1:20:30.479 --> 1:20:33.160
<v Speaker 1>what do you think we can do? Like, like, what

1:20:33.200 --> 1:20:37.640
<v Speaker 1>do you think can be done? Just like uh, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, I don't know, like it was like behaviorally

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<v Speaker 1>or culturally to kind of just change that the mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. Well, I mean we're already so we're already

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<v Speaker 1>using music too established and in the sense established and

1:20:50.520 --> 1:20:54.720
<v Speaker 1>reinforced a certain reality, and people increasingly through music are

1:20:54.760 --> 1:20:57.960
<v Speaker 1>starting to branch off into different ways that things could be.

1:20:58.320 --> 1:21:01.160
<v Speaker 1>You have folks like No Name or Sava or even

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<v Speaker 1>Kendrick or a lot of different people who are talking

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<v Speaker 1>more about mental health that are talking more about avoiding conflict,

1:21:07.240 --> 1:21:10.080
<v Speaker 1>that are talking more about I don't know, a love

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<v Speaker 1>of reading and various things that we don't historically associate

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<v Speaker 1>with the black experience. And so through those means encouraging

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<v Speaker 1>folks to speak on alternatives to the status quo of

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<v Speaker 1>resulting and you know, resorting immediately to violence as a

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<v Speaker 1>way to shift norms in the community, to get more

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<v Speaker 1>people to say, oh that they got played a show

1:21:30.680 --> 1:21:34.200
<v Speaker 1>with topic he was talking about, you know this or that,

1:21:34.240 --> 1:21:36.400
<v Speaker 1>about taking a walk instead of hitting somebody in the face.

1:21:36.680 --> 1:21:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna reflect on that and building those relationships. So

1:21:39.040 --> 1:21:41.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like, hey, yeah, let's kick it after the show.

1:21:41.560 --> 1:21:44.040
<v Speaker 1>And like, you know, I saw he was really heated

1:21:44.080 --> 1:21:46.000
<v Speaker 1>and like beefing with those cats, Like let's you know,

1:21:46.080 --> 1:21:47.800
<v Speaker 1>let's take a walk and talk about it as a

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<v Speaker 1>way of helping shift some of those norms. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think in this case it does take

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of I mean, obviously I think about the

1:21:55.280 --> 1:21:57.599
<v Speaker 1>policy level, but it also has to be interpersonal within

1:21:57.640 --> 1:22:01.360
<v Speaker 1>communities to people, say to really start thinking intentionally about

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<v Speaker 1>like let's just not like I was saying, not just

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<v Speaker 1>put the guns down, but what alternatives would we like

1:22:05.000 --> 1:22:06.840
<v Speaker 1>to see people doing, and how do we mentor them

1:22:06.840 --> 1:22:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and getting to that place because they might be really

1:22:08.720 --> 1:22:11.400
<v Speaker 1>smartly you said, these people aren't idiots, but you're only

1:22:11.439 --> 1:22:14.599
<v Speaker 1>as smart as like if you're giving input to then

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<v Speaker 1>process and do something with. And so we gotta start

1:22:17.280 --> 1:22:19.679
<v Speaker 1>giving people input to then like use their very smart

1:22:19.720 --> 1:22:21.800
<v Speaker 1>brains that they used to make very genius lyrics to

1:22:22.400 --> 1:22:24.880
<v Speaker 1>apply it to other circumstances in the life they're currently

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<v Speaker 1>not handling well. Smaria, what are your thoughts on perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>like the nature of the vein of hip hop that

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about involved with having an impact in this

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<v Speaker 1>because like I remember, I remember interview back in the

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<v Speaker 1>day with MC light and she was like they were

1:22:42.640 --> 1:22:45.080
<v Speaker 1>asking her about like the hip hop Cops, and you know,

1:22:45.080 --> 1:22:46.960
<v Speaker 1>it was back in like two thousand six when the

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<v Speaker 1>NYPD had their like hip Hop Task Force and they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, you know, really good and they were asking

1:22:51.200 --> 1:22:55.240
<v Speaker 1>MC light about it, and she was like, I don't

1:22:55.280 --> 1:22:58.120
<v Speaker 1>worry about that ship. She's like, nobody's coming on my

1:22:58.200 --> 1:23:01.439
<v Speaker 1>tour of us looking for God. She was like, She's

1:23:01.439 --> 1:23:04.640
<v Speaker 1>like she's like nobody, nobody's pulling over Q two like

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<v Speaker 1>to see if you know what I mean, if his

1:23:06.360 --> 1:23:08.439
<v Speaker 1>crew is packing. It's like, you know what I mean,

1:23:08.439 --> 1:23:12.200
<v Speaker 1>because that's not the ship that we're doing. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I had this discussion with somebody the other day where

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<v Speaker 1>or me and Mariah. I think we've had this discussion before,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like there's like we can't only say that

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop is the most influential, impactful force in the

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<v Speaker 1>world when we're talking about good ship and then be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but we promise you that none of the influences were bad,

1:23:32.240 --> 1:23:34.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. And one of the influences

1:23:34.760 --> 1:23:36.639
<v Speaker 1>is that you get you know, if you if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a little kid and you're listening to rap music growing up,

1:23:39.200 --> 1:23:41.519
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just I'm gonna speak anecdotally just for my

1:23:41.600 --> 1:23:45.679
<v Speaker 1>personal experience, there is a nature of don't back down

1:23:46.640 --> 1:23:49.040
<v Speaker 1>to like to to to hip hop music, especially the

1:23:49.040 --> 1:23:51.880
<v Speaker 1>ship that I was listening to growing up. And you

1:23:51.920 --> 1:23:54.559
<v Speaker 1>take aside that refrain that I told you about like

1:23:54.760 --> 1:23:57.719
<v Speaker 1>fighting black people are being in physical confrontations with black people,

1:23:57.760 --> 1:24:01.640
<v Speaker 1>you put that aside. One of my physical confrontations in

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<v Speaker 1>life are from a Napoleon complex of like, oh no,

1:24:04.520 --> 1:24:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't back down. Oh like what DMX back down?

1:24:07.520 --> 1:24:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm going at it, you know what I mean. Like

1:24:09.240 --> 1:24:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll say, I'll get my ask with to show you

1:24:11.200 --> 1:24:15.240
<v Speaker 1>that I'm not no punk because fucking chuck the aint

1:24:15.240 --> 1:24:17.599
<v Speaker 1>no punk, and you know what I mean. Like, so

1:24:18.200 --> 1:24:20.400
<v Speaker 1>there is that element of it that it's like, hey,

1:24:20.439 --> 1:24:23.720
<v Speaker 1>if you're if, if you're if, your mind is being

1:24:23.760 --> 1:24:26.640
<v Speaker 1>bombarded seven where I hit you with the strap, I

1:24:26.680 --> 1:24:28.519
<v Speaker 1>hit you with the stick, We roll up on you,

1:24:28.640 --> 1:24:30.599
<v Speaker 1>I pull up on site, I pull up on site,

1:24:30.800 --> 1:24:33.040
<v Speaker 1>we catch you on site, pull up. You know what

1:24:33.080 --> 1:24:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean? You know, then when you're in a confrontation,

1:24:35.560 --> 1:24:38.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe that that makes nobody in a in a

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<v Speaker 1>in a room where they can have a sober state

1:24:40.880 --> 1:24:42.599
<v Speaker 1>to be like, hey, maybe we should back down in this,

1:24:43.080 --> 1:24:45.240
<v Speaker 1>or maybe we should deescalate the situation, you know what

1:24:45.240 --> 1:24:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Maybe there's something subconscious where it's like, oh no,

1:24:48.080 --> 1:24:50.479
<v Speaker 1>we gotta handle this situation. You can't disrespect my crew.

1:24:50.880 --> 1:24:54.640
<v Speaker 1>M you think there's any you think there's anything to

1:24:54.640 --> 1:24:56.479
<v Speaker 1>that or is that like just like oh no, absolutely,

1:24:56.479 --> 1:24:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that that like overlaps flat with what I

1:24:58.680 --> 1:25:02.120
<v Speaker 1>was talking about. Yeah, oh go ahead. I mean I

1:25:02.160 --> 1:25:05.080
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, it's funny like you mentioned, uh, I mean,

1:25:05.120 --> 1:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like you're infantilizing a little bit, like is

1:25:08.040 --> 1:25:12.760
<v Speaker 1>it the culture that swang us or is it uh

1:25:12.920 --> 1:25:15.439
<v Speaker 1>not just musically, but but what you grow up in,

1:25:15.520 --> 1:25:18.120
<v Speaker 1>like so environmentally, like we know this is the case

1:25:18.360 --> 1:25:23.200
<v Speaker 1>uh DMX had like tax evasion court case before he died.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if you ever heard about this,

1:25:25.479 --> 1:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>but they were gonna sentence him to five years, and

1:25:29.120 --> 1:25:31.880
<v Speaker 1>they decided not to. They gave him like one year

1:25:31.960 --> 1:25:34.479
<v Speaker 1>with parole, like the option for parole. And the only

1:25:34.520 --> 1:25:36.960
<v Speaker 1>reason they did that is because they played slipping or

1:25:37.040 --> 1:25:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Slipping for the judge. I don't know if you remember

1:25:39.280 --> 1:25:41.479
<v Speaker 1>that song, like I'm slipping, I'm following, I can't get up,

1:25:41.720 --> 1:25:44.400
<v Speaker 1>and the whole song is about like his life, like

1:25:44.479 --> 1:25:46.879
<v Speaker 1>how he was abused by his aunts and his uncles,

1:25:47.320 --> 1:25:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and his his mom had died when he was early on,

1:25:50.080 --> 1:25:52.479
<v Speaker 1>and like all the trials and tribulations, and they reduced

1:25:52.479 --> 1:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>the sentence to a year. And the judge's explanation was

1:25:56.479 --> 1:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>similar to Mariah's, like, uh, the environment that he was,

1:26:00.120 --> 1:26:02.880
<v Speaker 1>how could we expect him to take five million dollars

1:26:02.920 --> 1:26:05.639
<v Speaker 1>in his first year of having his first album, having

1:26:05.680 --> 1:26:08.680
<v Speaker 1>no experience with money and this type of life, and

1:26:08.720 --> 1:26:11.200
<v Speaker 1>now we're expecting him to pay back money he'll never

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<v Speaker 1>have and we should never have expected him to pay

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<v Speaker 1>And it sounds like you're infantilizing somebody. In the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan was pointing out that, like there's clearly some environmental

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<v Speaker 1>issues here, and how do we change environmentally the way

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<v Speaker 1>these people are educated? Right? But I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>find myself stuck between both roads, Like you can't blame

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<v Speaker 1>either one of these things for me, Like there is

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<v Speaker 1>a personal accountability there, But I don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't necessarily think I'm I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't mean to like infantalize because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that any at the mercy of the

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<v Speaker 1>ensway of the things that we listen to. You, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that that's likeat so I shout up by school,

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<v Speaker 1>like no, I'm not not necessarily something like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>again it's just again, it's just like you know, calling

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<v Speaker 1>balls and strikes, you know what I mean. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>would be lying if I were to say that I

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<v Speaker 1>know for a fact that there is not that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a generation if I were to say that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>generation of men who are my age, who at a

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<v Speaker 1>very young age, we're listening to me so horny and

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<v Speaker 1>bitches ain't ship, and that thirty years later that might

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<v Speaker 1>in some incremental way effect the effect how they treat women,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So it's like just using

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<v Speaker 1>that same sort of logic, It's like, yo, man, if

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<v Speaker 1>you grow up, I bust you with the stick, I

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<v Speaker 1>bust you with the stick, and it's like that's regurgitated

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again. Then perhaps if you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>situation you know, I mean, you might be less inclined

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<v Speaker 1>to think what can I do to do? You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, that's not necessarily like a cause and

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<v Speaker 1>effect you know, in infant infantile infantile infantalization. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's just it's just like like I said, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's all just like a net, like you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>there's like emergent like the brain doesn't work on just

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<v Speaker 1>we can't just say your neurons do it, or your

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<v Speaker 1>brain does it, or your sensory inputs on your body

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<v Speaker 1>as well like brings consciousness. But what every scientists say

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<v Speaker 1>is that it's like an emergent property. So like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good point. Like this this does seem like

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<v Speaker 1>it's all the things kind of wrapped up right exactly

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<v Speaker 1>exactly all the things in any event, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>super tragic situation. Um rest in peace to Drake e

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<v Speaker 1>O and you know, wishes his his family and his friends. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, regardless, Homie was just like a really smooth, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>cool ass cat. You know what I'm saying. So hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop lost one. Alright, y'all. Um, we've been going on

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<v Speaker 1>and on, so we are about to go home and

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate Christmas. Hope all you guys have a good Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>with all your family. Hey John, of course, anytime, anytime, anytime,

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<v Speaker 1>coming through. But we're gonna close it. We're gonna close

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<v Speaker 1>it like we always do. And that's with raps. So Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>once you give us a beat and let's give some

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<v Speaker 1>holiday raps. Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah, so so

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<v Speaker 1>hey yeah, pull up on the beat. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>it was slow when I gotta eat with a force

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<v Speaker 1>to behold. She is antique like the Morse in the Code.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I gotta spit like the pork in the roast,

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<v Speaker 1>or I p draking up that ain't it? Stop violence?

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<v Speaker 1>Every day? The same ship they used to be down

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<v Speaker 1>the lane switched fun Fox News. I gotta beat for

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<v Speaker 1>the sat nick. I don't vibe with a corporate holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>Take your whole check. And of course there's a robbery

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<v Speaker 1>and the music bullshit follows me and I gotta tie

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<v Speaker 1>for a present. Probably I'm a fucking I'm a bitter

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<v Speaker 1>gridge looking like climbate the Pocka lips to when Nick

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<v Speaker 1>all I really wants a little bitty house on the

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<v Speaker 1>Helena Honey to block them lips on the Nigga trying

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<v Speaker 1>fish for Nickel, watched the brains versus socks when niked

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<v Speaker 1>instead of them sitting in the shock for nack ramon

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Tom about Amazone workers killed to deliver of brox

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<v Speaker 1>properly filled with some simple bundles of socks to love

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<v Speaker 1>the building blocks could the way to but the box

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<v Speaker 1>moved a billion, then the billion, then the billion, then

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<v Speaker 1>like a phenivoment from a tropical illness. But that to

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<v Speaker 1>this giant, the only one tripping And I'm open guy

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<v Speaker 1>willing one day we overcome women, defeat these fucking villains.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey cope, knife with Franca and we are waiting on reparations.

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