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Speaker 1: You are now listening to Waiting on Reparations production of

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. What is happening? My name is Dope Knife,

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Speaker 1: I'm Lincola Franca, and we are Waiting on Reparations. We

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Speaker 1: have a very special guest with us again. I've brought

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Speaker 1: back my homie who guested it for us when Mariah

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Speaker 1: was taking some time off. He is the ex Army ranger,

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Speaker 1: cool dad and commentator himself, my homie John Hannah. What's

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Speaker 1: happening John? What's been the highlight of your week? Man? Uh?

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Speaker 1: My kid finishing up some antibiotic grounds and rappings the presents.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, are you doing the whole Are you doing

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Speaker 1: the whole family thing? First of all? Like, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: just just so that week and our our guests can

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Speaker 1: be a little of you know, climate to you. Why

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Speaker 1: don't you just tell him about yourself? Oh no, no, job,

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Speaker 1: these mothers know you already. Yeah. I'm a former Army ranger,

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Speaker 1: but currently I mostly surfing, take care of my two kids,

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Speaker 1: Zoe and Avery. That's my day. How's your week, Marien? Um,

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Speaker 1: it's been good. This is my first couple of days

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Speaker 1: sort of recharge because that ship will beat the hell

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Speaker 1: out of you. Um And so yeah, I'm just kicking

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Speaker 1: back rewatching the Matrix trilogy in preparations for the new film,

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Speaker 1: which I'm very excited about. You I see that, I

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Speaker 1: see that. That's that's scrooge E look on your face, sir,

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Speaker 1: What do you I mean? I don't know, man, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna I don't like hating on anything that I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen, so I'm gonna refrain from passing down any

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Speaker 1: sort of judgment. But you know, I'm like a Matrix stam.

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Speaker 1: high school where I honestly could sit down and just

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Speaker 1: like inflections like I was. I was nutsle with him

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Speaker 1: like that. So I can't nobody downplay my Matrix bona Fetus.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, it looks you know what,

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Speaker 1: It doesn't look bad to me. It just looks like

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Speaker 1: look like a Marble movie. And that's that's what's gotta be. Like,

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Speaker 1: got your little shook, Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it'll

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Speaker 1: be I'm sure it'll be dope. Now, will it be

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Speaker 1: like the matrix to sound like some nerd like, Well, actually,

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Speaker 1: I just I just don't know how matrix I want

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Speaker 1: new one's going to be. But the old ones hold up.

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Speaker 1: God's running around doing karate and computer ship. Everybody got

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Speaker 1: the slim little sunglasses on. Cornell West is in the

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Speaker 1: second one. I don't know if y'all remember that, remember that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's in that ship. That's probably my first like where

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Speaker 1: I first started hearing about Cornell West. The corporate goons

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Speaker 1: to the Resistance underground and it's all steam punkin and

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Speaker 1: like everybody's all tribal and ship. It's beautiful. Dude. They

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Speaker 1: couldn't they couldn't have just like done a little bit

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Speaker 1: of tweak to the wardrobe though, I mean, Kanus straight

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Speaker 1: they were just like, Yo, you don't even gotta bother

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Speaker 1: you get those clothes? The matrix? Every time he box

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Speaker 1: to make Wick Keanu is. I would always say Keyana

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Speaker 1: Reeves is the Nellie of actors because he's not really

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, we are back with our pre holiday

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Speaker 1: New Year's Um? I mean we can. I was playing

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Speaker 1: down some very depressing story, so depressing news stories for y'all.

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Speaker 1: Just give our thoughts about it. So first up, Mariah,

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Speaker 1: he used it like Oprah used to use her her

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Speaker 1: of that was facilitated by Pope Francis. I don't know

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Speaker 1: on his end, what was working to his disadvantage is

424
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Speaker 1: like he's like he had to run kind of like Bernie,

425
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, it's like it's if you weren't,

426
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: if you weren't really like like paying attention to it,

427
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: like you know, the way that we all might be

428
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: paying attention to elections now and stuff like that. It's

429
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: like I I remember, like following that election, like Obama

430
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 1: was sounded like Bernie like while they were running, And

431
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: I think that with that came a lot of expectations

432
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: that he'd never had any intention of living up to,

433
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: like mother Like Motherfucker's was really like, yo, dude, I

434
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: bet you after the first year, he's gonna grow his

435
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: after a while, you know what I mean. Like people

436
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: were really having that sort of expectations in Obama, like

437
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: he was about to come in there and like really

438
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: in turntables over like I can't take this ship no more.

439
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: And I don't think that ever was his intentions. So

440
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: it's like, very early on in the presidency, there was

441
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 1: like a you know what I mean, why, Well, if

442
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: I've learned anything about governance is that the machine itself

443
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: will moderate you. Like that's why I support pretty much

444
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: the most left wing candidates I can at any time

445
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: that I can, because I know that they won't actually

446
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: be able to govern that way. That the machinery of

447
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: of you know, the swamp of the legislature or whatever,

448
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: you know, even just the establishment within your own political

449
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: party will break you and and push you into line.

450
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: And so that comes as no surprise to me as

451
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: Obama running kind of like a burniesque populist campaign and

452
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: then ultimately like you know, getting shoehorned by Wall Street,

453
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: getting uh kneecapped by the loss of the Democratic majority

454
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: after the mid terms, after his um election, etcetera, etcetera. Um,

455
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Speaker 1: you know, it's just like it's just it is what

456
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: it is. Kind of you know what kind of gave

457
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: him a lot of cover to is Um and Patrisa.

458
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Speaker 1: Neil kind of had a had a bit like this

459
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: back in the day. We're here talking about this, But

460
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: I think like that was the beginning of the Republicans,

461
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: like just like completely out in the open flirting with

462
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: like just straight up white supremacy, racist ship, you know

463
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like it was there's a lot of

464
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: like dog whistling and plausible deniability type of ship going on.

465
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: But it's like when Obama got in. That's when it

466
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: was like I accidentally came to work today in my kkknif.

467
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, guys. So I think a lot of that

468
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Speaker 1: shielded Barack Obama from criticism, because I know, even me

469
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 1: back then was like, oh man, what the fund is

470
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 1: this dude doing with the super majority? Fun these Democrats

471
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: is messing up. But I'm not fun these Tea Party

472
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: guys though, you know what I mean. It's like I'm

473
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Speaker 1: not gonna go with them too hard because the other

474
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Speaker 1: motherfucker's got nooses at their rally, you know, yeah, right up.

475
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: I haven't seen this corroborated in the media, so y'all

476
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: like if you have seen any sort of confirmation that

477
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: this is true. This is like a wide bread leftist

478
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: myth that Obama stepped in during the primaries to get

479
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, Amy klobchar to drop out and

480
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: endorse Biden so that Bernie could not you know, it

481
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: was just like there's nothing he could do to stop

482
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: the time. Okay, Like I hear about the phone call

483
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: a lot, but it's like, I don't know, I haven't

484
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: read any additional details on it. Um, Yeah, it's not

485
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: really it seems it seems like some ship that you

486
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: would expect. But I know that's what I'm saying, Like

487
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: it seems like some ship that you would expect, but

488
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: that you can't just always lean on that. It's like, well,

489
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: this makes sense to have happened. That's how you get

490
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: like it makes sense that there's a microchip in the vaccine. Well,

491
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, I don't know, I would expect that,

492
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, any sort of like entrenched power in some

493
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: sort of situation like that, they're gonna, you know, they're

494
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: gonna pull out their their big guns at the end

495
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: of the day when they when they felt like a

496
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: it's like our guys gonna lose, they consolidated their power

497
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: and they did they did what they had to do.

498
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know that that sort of thing

499
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: does never really personally, it doesn't really make me upset

500
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: because it's what I would expect, you know what I'm saying,

501
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: Like if Bernie, if Bernie had a bigger or if

502
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: if the if the leftist part of the Democratic Party

503
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: had more influence and we're ingrained more in the infrastructure

504
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party, I would expect us to consolidate

505
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: our power to and to stop establishments figures from gaining power.

506
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: You know, it's just the ship is gonna be you know,

507
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: at the bottom line, that ship is gonna be hard.

508
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: It's like you can't. Yeah, on one hand, you can't.

509
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: You can't, like your rhetoric be man, the democratic establishment,

510
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: the democratic establishment, the democratic establishment, and then when the

511
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: democratic establishment does democratic I can't believe you guys would

512
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: do that to me, Like what like no, Like no,

513
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: They're they're gonna look after the Buddha judges. They're gonna

514
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: they're gonna amplify the voices that they want. We're we're

515
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: working at a disadvantage. We know that, so we know

516
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: it's uphill battle. It's just it just comes down to

517
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: whether you're like this, there's nothing we can do, or

518
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: you're down to put in the fight. You know. I

519
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: partially bring this up because I've recently seen comparisons for

520
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 1: the way is that Obama wheels his influence over politics today,

521
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: as in, you know, he made that phone call to

522
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: stop Bernie, But where was his ass when earlier this

523
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: week Joe Man killed Joe Biden's signature piece of legislator,

524
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: Like where like Obama could have Where was that where

525
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: is that phone call? He was Obama was doing the

526
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: same thing that he does exactly when when it's like that,

527
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: that motherfucker just comes up, like the week before an election.

528
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 1: It's like, you guys, another two years and so and

529
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: so with that, I will pivot to discussing build back

530
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: Better and the fact it's fucking debt. So is it

531
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: officially dead? So Joe mentioned announced just as the Senate

532
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: was closing up shot for the year that he wouldn't

533
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: be supporting the current iteration of the Build Back Better bill,

534
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: effectively dooming it. I mean, it could re animates in

535
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: the new year, but nothing like it, you know, with

536
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: even more reduced provisions that are currently in it. You know,

537
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: it contained extension of the child child tax credit, produced

538
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: prescription costs, covered hearing benefits, and medicaid, huge investment, affordable housing,

539
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: so like it could come back with less of all

540
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: of that, but for now, already less of it was

541
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: already less of a bunch of stuff to begin with.

542
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Speaker 1: That it was already down to ten trillion dollars to

543
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: one point seven. So that's pretty bleak um, I mean,

544
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: so okay, So and maybe maybe Maria you can help

545
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: shed or help clarify this. Um So, how much of

546
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: this should heads be blaming Joe Mansion, Kristen Cinema or whatever,

547
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: and how much of this should uh, you know, rightfully

548
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: go to general Democrat fecklessness. So yeah, I was having

549
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: this discussion with some of the other day that was

550
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: bitching about Joe Manchin, Joe Manono mansion, and I honestly

551
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: see this as a systemic failure. This is the failure

552
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: of Chuck Schumer to break some motherfucking kneecaps. This is

553
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: a failure of Joe Biden. They put out like this

554
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: excoriating statement like fun this nigga, he said all this

555
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: ship hit about. You know, the thing came out about

556
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: him saying people are using the child text credit to

557
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: buy drugs, which like, if you are having kids as

558
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: hard if you got smoke, you need to relax when

559
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: that baby is just like, I don't think he's I mean,

560
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: it's all I think it's a false premise, but it's

561
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: like I think that he's trying to project something stronger

562
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: than weed. Well, of course he's also the motherfucker that

563
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: wakes up on a yacht and drives past his constituents

564
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: begging on their knees to d clie to change. Although

565
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: the Democratic leadership knew for a fact how he was

566
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: going to vote on that, his voters. You can pull

567
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: his constituents right now and you can watch young turks

568
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: and they'll talk about like how popular certain bills are

569
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: and I'll agree with them. But his voters would not

570
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: go for it unless it was super super sold to them,

571
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: and it wasn't. It was sold to me really well,

572
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm I was all about it when it was like

573
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: ten billion dollars. Yep, sounds great, should probably add some

574
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: more to that. And then they dropped it. I was

575
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: still for it. Anything's better than nothing, But I don't

576
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: think he would have ever voted for it. They knew

577
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: that was coming. How did they not know that was coming?

578
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: It is my question? Yeah? So what? So here's the thing, though,

579
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: So Mariah, what could they have done? Like, Okay, let's

580
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: say let's say that his turn wasn't like a last

581
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: second thing. So let's say that we knew four months ago,

582
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: five months ago that no matter why, he's gonna gonna

583
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: screw the bill. And to say no, what could the

584
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: Democrats have been doing in the past five months to

585
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: get around that. I don't know. That's the thing is

586
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: that I'm sure there are incalculable tools in the presidential

587
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: and senatorial toolbox to get that negative fucking do the thing.

588
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: If it's like, oh, we're gonna put out a primary

589
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: challenger against you next week and they're gonna have the

590
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: full funding of, you know, full backing of the Democratic Party,

591
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna saying, Kamala down there and goddamn mass I

592
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: don't know, Snoop Dogg down there to like stop for

593
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: this guy, strip him off, Strip Joe Mansion of all

594
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: those committees, threatened stripping of all those committees like they

595
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: always do with the fucking Republicans when they're on their function,

596
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: like they try to do with Marjorie Taylor Green and

597
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: Lauren Bolbert, not them. Um, They're like, I can't even

598
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: imagine the a math, the massive things that are probably

599
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: available at their disposal to get him off fucking to

600
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: like do the thing. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and I'm

601
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: sorry didn't want me. I didn't mean to cut you

602
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: off my bed. I mean you know that like Joe

603
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: Biden and them are also in like Nancy Pelosi are

604
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: in the pocket of like big oil and big tech

605
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: and all these industries that are probably lining his pockets

606
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: as well. You don't think they could have a word

607
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: with Jamie Diamond or whoever at the fucking I don't know,

608
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: Goldman Sacks and be like, look, we really gotta get

609
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: this bitch to do this thing. Okay, just like Hill

610
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: a little bit, like there's so many things and so

611
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean, and it also speaks to just the inherent

612
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: undemocratic nature of the Senate. The Senate is just ambolished.

613
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: The Senate bolish Senate. It's not fair that a single

614
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: person that represents two people can block an agenda that's

615
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: popular with sev of the American people, of tens of

616
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 1: millions of people all across the country who need child

617
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: tax credits, who can't afford hearing aids, who can't afford

618
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: the prescription drug costs, blah blah blah blah lah, and

619
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: so the Senate just sucks. The Senate needs to not

620
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: exist at all, and so that in itself is a

621
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: systemic failure. I think the my my takeaway from like

622
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: some of these things that with the Democrats having trouble

623
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: running through some of the agenda that they have is

624
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: like it. It seems like they're too worried about maintaining

625
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: like a status quo that's destined to not be there.

626
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, even though I'm not like

627
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: completely up to speed on the minutia of the situation,

628
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: it's just like there's a lot of things where it

629
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: seems like the Democrats are saying, oh, we can't we

630
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: we would have to take this out, like the filibuster

631
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: for example. It's like, hey, we'd have to take this

632
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: step on the filibuster so that we could you know,

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00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: push through, build back better or something like that. But

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Speaker 1: we don't want to touch that because if we touch

635
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: the filibuster change or something like that, then the Republicans

636
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: are gonna be able to use it against us when

637
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: we're not in the majority. And the whole thing is like, yo,

638
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna do that anyway, and that that is you know,

639
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: and it's like, you mean, m Christopher or Goldsmith are

640
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: gonna kind of touch on it in our talk, but

641
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: it's like the Republicans are gonna pack the court. So

642
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: so it's like the Democrats can like, oh, we don't

643
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: want to do it because it's the fundamentally blah, blah blah.

644
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: It's like they are going to do it, you know

645
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like like if they were in this situation,

646
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: whatever ship that they have to do to fundamentally change

647
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: the institution forever and stuff like that, They're gonna just

648
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 1: do it and then we're and then Democrats are gonna

649
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: be sitting around crying that they they told you that

650
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: four years ago when they didn't put Mary Garland on

651
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: on the seat, that they don't give a funk about

652
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: the rules and ship like that. So the whole like

653
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: playing with kids gloves and it's like, hey, we're trying

654
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: to maintain civility and blah blah, bah blah. It's like

655
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: I can't believe that after four years of Donald Trump

656
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: that Democrats are still on that ship. And it's like

657
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: they're gonna sunk around and have us all in concentration

658
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 1: camp doing that stupid shift for real only matter time.

659
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: Speaking of bleak shit, UM, at least six Amazon workers

660
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: were killed in the warehouse and Edwards Built Illinois last week.

661
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: While tornadoes bore down on the distribution at on the

662
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: distribution center where they're teaking refuge and um, the warehouse

663
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: roof collapsed upon them. So it's deeply sad. I mean,

664
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: there was an incredible horrific wreckage all across you know, Kentucky,

665
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: in the in the Midwest as a result of these storms.

666
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: But to think that these folks, you know, Amazon has

667
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: a policy where they like take people's phones at the

668
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: beginning of their shift to like increase productivity. Thinking about

669
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: people that weren't able to call for help. Um, that

670
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: these folks were out. A lot of these delivery drivers,

671
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: um were among the folks that got killed, were out

672
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: on their shift trying to deliver packages in the middle

673
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: of tornadoes. And we're like, who, I think we should

674
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: get back to the warehouse. This is getting kind of

675
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: sketch out here, and you know, try to go hide

676
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: in the bathroom, but by that time it's too late. Um.

677
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: It's just really, really deeply sad. A sad account that

678
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: I saw was um a text message exchange from one

679
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: of the employees who was in there, UM where he

680
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: was like telling his life, Okay, you know, we're among

681
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: we're on the way because the storms come in. I'll

682
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: be home and a little bit and stuff. And then

683
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: sometime goes by in between text messages and she's like

684
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: hitting him back, and he's like, Oh, they won't let

685
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: us leave, we gotta stay. Yeah, and then I mean

686
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: that sounds. That sounds there's a liability there. You are

687
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: liable as a business owner for the safety of your

688
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: workers and if any worker or family, Memer can prove

689
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: beyond even like a slight shadow of a doubt that

690
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: they had the responsibility at the moment they knew it

691
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 1: was coming, and they knew it was coming. How long

692
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: was that tornado track? Do you know? I don't quite

693
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: remember off him, but it was. It was some unbelievably

694
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: long tornado track of just the storm cut depositing one

695
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: after one, so it was coming. It was probably had

696
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: a warning. I don't know how long it had a time,

697
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: but if it was an hour or two, they're screwed

698
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: as a company. Why would you do that? That's insane.

699
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: Isn't this on the heels of them trying to do

700
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: union busting, because that that was like this couple of

701
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Yeah, they just declared that they're going to

702
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: have a new election down in Bessemor where they try

703
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: to unionize the first UH Amazon distribution center in the country.

704
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: But like other than declaring, they got to do a

705
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: new election to slap them with some fines. Oh fifty

706
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: dollar fine, don't give a ship. That's like, that's like

707
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 1: pocket change with Jeff Bezou, So he'll be like Wen'll

708
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: be like, oh, just add a couple of extra zeros

709
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: on the end of that check just because sweeten the deal. Like,

710
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: who the funk? You know? So what is true accountability

711
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: in this case? Even if a lawsuit is won. I

712
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 1: would be very happy those for those families to get

713
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: that money, but it doesn't really do anything truly punitive

714
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: to the bosses that created these conditions, because they will

715
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: just you know, go about begging their billions still and

716
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 1: those people will never those people will can never be

717
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: brought back ultimately. Um So it's darts. I wanted to

718
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: put that out there as a reminder though, as we

719
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: approach Christmas, etcetera, like don't try, like, don't use Amazon.

720
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: I know you, I know, I know, I love getting

721
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: the ship in two days and like not happen to

722
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 1: go through the home depot and find the fucking ship.

723
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: But there is I don't remember the name of right now.

724
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: There is a browser extension or you can go on

725
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: Amazon find the thing. That you want, and it will

726
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: tell you what other website has the thing, and you

727
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: can click you can click on it, you know, take

728
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: you to the other website we can buy the thing before.

729
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: And so, like all kinds of alternatives out there, don't

730
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: support these motherfucker's with their union busting and their literal

731
00:40:53,320 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: like just negligence for human life. How the fuck that

732
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: the thing I picked an hour ago get to my

733
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: house without a drone because like this dude woke up

734
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: from a nap in his car and threw it at

735
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: my door. And I'm like, this is unbelievable, and who

736
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: died to get me this ship? This fast? Something wrong?

737
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: It's not really wrong. But the story also raises the

738
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: issue more generally of climate change because the series of

739
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: storms this severe in the Midwest. I mean there's a

740
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: lot of tornadoes up there generally, but this is just

741
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: like almost unprecedented and generally warmer, warmer winter period just

742
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: all around. And oh yeah, I was out on a

743
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: walk the other day and I was like really bundled

744
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: up because it's supposed to be fucking cold, and I'm like, oh,

745
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm sweating a little bit, and like I'm like, okay,

746
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: enjoy it. Just enjoy it. Have a nice time. The

747
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: birds are singing, it's sun shining. But like I just

748
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: like the weight upon me of like the promise of extinctions.

749
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 1: Just like, yo, this ship. Actually, this is not cool.

750
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: It's not cool. I heard a motherfucker talking about it

751
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: being sixty five in Milwaukee the other day. Not cool. Yo,

752
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: that ain't like for real, And I mean anybody who

753
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: knows anything about Milwaukee in December, that's like day after tomorrow.

754
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: The heat dome they had in Canada, that was the beginning.

755
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: They had people die because there was a heat dome

756
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: in the beginning of winter. Wait wait, wait, n what's so?

757
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: It's like, imagine a rain system that sits above like

758
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: a city that also has sidewalks. The it just it

759
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: basically creates a positive feedback loop where the heat from

760
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: the storm is capturing all the heat right and then

761
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: all of the rising air from the sidewalk is causing

762
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: it to get stuck and trapped because the cold air

763
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: around the storm is is sinking. So what you have

764
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: is like a dome of heat and like the size

765
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: of Texas. I think he killed ten people, yo. Yeah. Yeah,

766
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: But there's the next level to this is so Amazon

767
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: not having a centralized mailing system, so our post office

768
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: is highly efficient. It just is it's super centralized. We

769
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: have it to a bare minimum of like gas trips

770
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: from here to here. If there's a local dude that

771
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: Amazon can call deliver my package quicker, that's awful. How

772
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: many packages did he have in his car too? For Like,

773
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: that's not good. How did they get to his house

774
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: a whole another driver? Why didn't it go to a

775
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: central location? That doesn't make any sense. The cost of

776
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: that is the environment on top of their other ship

777
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: that I don't think anybody's gone that. I didn't even

778
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: think about that. So they're robbing us of our president

779
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: killing people out here today, and they're killing people out

780
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: here tomorrow and Tony Amazon, Amazon and Disney those are

781
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: the two companies to look out for in the next

782
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: ten years. When when you see your local police department

783
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: with the Mickey Mouse arm patch on, yeah, it's about

784
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: it's about to be bad, Joe, you know what I'm saying.

785
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: When when like the when the military is gonna be

786
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: gonna have the episode Arrow on it? Like what's that movie? Specific?

787
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna be able to order your own, your

788
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: own dude like me and mac yo, are drones coming

789
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: in to borrow We gotta hurry up and link this

790
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: stood up. Eight hundred thousand people ain't no fucking joke, yo.

791
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: That is that is a staggering number that if you

792
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: told Americans that, if you told Americans in February of that,

793
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: come December, the eight hundred thousand people were going to

794
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: die from one thing. Come on, now, you know what

795
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: I mean. So it's like like part of the you know,

796
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: part of like the COVID skepticism, whether it becomes you know,

797
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: the COVID vaccine or COVID policy skepticism, whether it's coming

798
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: from the right or the left, is I personally can't

799
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: at this point, I can't personally say that I know

800
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: it's because they don't think COVID is that bad. You know,

801
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: Like I'm not sure that this wouldn't that people's vaccine

802
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 1: skepticism and sure like that that it wouldn't be going

803
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: if we were having like a worldwide smallpox epidemic, you

804
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I don't I don't feel

805
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: like I don't feel that this is coming from a

806
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: place of like, oh, COVID is not that bad, so

807
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: we don't really have to like go overboard with these

808
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: measures to prevent it. It feels like it just feels

809
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 1: like it's coming from more of a place if people

810
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: generally don't care about people anymore, and that it's like

811
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: wear a mask, you're taking away my freedom, you know.

812
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: And it's just the whole, the whole, the whole discourse

813
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: around COVID. It just it just it has it's a

814
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: very It's like when people are talking about climate change

815
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: and you get kind of doo marie about it. Like

816
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: people's reaction to dealing with a global pandemic just has

817
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: me really down in the dumps for like our ability

818
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: to come together to solve big issues that affect us all,

819
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I'm not really looking

820
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: at us thinking that we're going to like get a

821
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: handle on this climate change stuff. When the pandemic went

822
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: across the world and killed five billion people in a

823
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: year and there's still mad people in the world like

824
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: we could have if you think about some of the

825
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: past plagues and pandemics, all the people that didn't take

826
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: any safety measures fucking died. We don't know how many

827
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: of those are were this might be the best response

828
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: we've ever had. And you can't really compare us to

829
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: fifties US, right, like our twenties to fifties US through

830
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: from the nineteen fifties, you're like height of America, Captain America.

831
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 1: Everybody's for America. We were in World War one and two,

832
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: everybody was kind of like working together. It was easy

833
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: to convince us to get vaccines. It's hard now, it's

834
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: just real hard. But but okay, And I hate it

835
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: when I hate it when Libs make the fucking oh COVID.

836
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: It's like a war. We've got to have a wartime

837
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: footing in a wartime policy and ship like that. I

838
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: hate that. I hate that. But just for the sake

839
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: of argument, though it's nineteen like forty two, right, or

840
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: whenever whenever Pearl Harbor was bombed or whatever, Pearl Harbor

841
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: just got bombed. Germany's taken over most of Europe, them

842
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: in Italy, or like, the whole world seems like it's

843
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: on the brink. And if you had a population of

844
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: people who are like you'd have the commercial I think

845
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: you got. You guys are going over board now, but

846
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Speaker 1: you don't know what you guys are complaining about it.

847
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: You guys, are you trying to take away by freedom?

848
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to rash and food. Why do you

849
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: guys trying to take away by freedom? Why do I

850
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: have to know? It's missing? Is missing? And this year

851
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: and if you haven't got your vaccine, you're not in American?

852
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: Do you know this, Mariah Um There there's been some

853
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: studies coming out that have been showing that at this

854
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: point in time, I think the more town like the

855
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: people who are dying, who are have been dying from

856
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: COVID have been overwhelmingly Republicans. Do you think that that

857
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: could have enough of a shift in in numbers to

858
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: like affect election outcomes? I mean they are not to

859
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: save the Democrats in the return, I'm not I'm not

860
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: talking about saving the Democrats interns. I just mean, do

861
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: you think that that could affect Republican voter turnout? Well,

862
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean, let's say, for example, Georgia flip blue this

863
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: last election cycle, um, and the election of Joe Biden

864
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: in Georgia was decided by ten thou votes. Over twenty

865
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: thousand people have died of COVID in the state of Georgia,

866
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: and so I think when we consider the the electoral

867
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: college or statewide races like a Senate race. UM, I

868
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: absolutely do believe that uh COVID death can impact the

869
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: results of a coming election. You just gave us the

870
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: ill transition, Mariah, You just gave us the ill transition,

871
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: ill transition because dig this right. Okay, So this report

872
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: came out in the Washington Post with these three retired

873
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: generals right who have been warning that there's enough of

874
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: a political fracture within the U. S. Military that should

875
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 1: a Trump be they had They're not trying to single

876
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 1: out Trump because they're saying that this honestly, they're saying

877
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: that the riff could go either way. But they're saying

878
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: that if the next election were to be called, you know,

879
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: called into dispute, that there's enough of a fracture that

880
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: they can foresee elements of the military being like, oh no,

881
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: our guy didn't lose and in going with them, and

882
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: that could cause civil dispute, possible civil war. I'm gonna

883
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: read you this excerpt from the Daily Beast. Three retired

884
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: three retired Army generals have warned of insurrection, possibly even

885
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: civil war if the results of presidential election are not

886
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: accepted by sections of the military. Retired retired Major General

887
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: Paul D. Eaton Antonio M. To Guba joined retired Brigadier

888
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: General Stephen M. Anderson and urged today's leaders to act

889
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: to prevent such scenes by calling on today's leaders to

890
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: do war games of an attempted coup. The former military

891
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: leaders said that they're increasingly concerned about the potential for

892
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: lethal chaos inside the military, which would put Americans at

893
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: severe risk in the aftermath of an election. Now, if

894
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: we're talking about margins being so thin that states were

895
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 1: flipped historically on ten thousand votes, and then we're talking

896
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: about a party that's being reckless in vaccine policy to

897
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: to to you know, mitigate a deadly disease. If we're

898
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: talking about those numbers are taking shaving off twenty thousand

899
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: of them here, five thousand of them here in that county.

900
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: If the Democrats are able to squeak out victories and

901
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: mid the mid terms and then again going to the

902
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: presidential election, the Democrats are able to squeak out numbers

903
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: because the dumbass Republicans got themselves sick on covid YO,

904
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose their ship. Like they're like like that

905
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: ship is gonna make that January ships ship January six

906
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: thing look like a cookout. Man, I'm trying to think.

907
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: I mean, when they say civil war, they mean like

908
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: a militias. Well, I mean, I think civil war in

909
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: this context is hyperbolic and in a lot of ways metaphorical.

910
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: But I just think, like like they're talking about like

911
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: some road communits and stuff like that, you know, what

912
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: acting independently to do. Because I mean, you know, we

913
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: we've mentioned this before, but if you wake up, if

914
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: you wake up in the morning and you scirl on

915
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: Twitter and you read, oh, a group of fifty dudes

916
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: stormed the Montana Capital House and took it over, you

917
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, just imagined ship like that, But

918
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: it happens like six times in one day, you know,

919
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: and then and then the local law and for the

920
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: local authorities have to go deal with that incident or again.

921
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: You know. I mean, you know, we've got like like

922
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: people shouldn't overlook that. It's like, you know, like Dylan

923
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: russ attack was like a politically motivated right wing attack,

924
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: you know, in the Al Paso shooter in Texas, like

925
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 1: that was the politically motivated, like a lot of these

926
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: mass shootings and things that happen are politically motivated. It's

927
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: just because of Overton window, that link isn't necessarily drawn

928
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: in in you know, harped on in the news. So

929
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: in this event, you know, just kind of think that,

930
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: but think of it more organized and with military guys

931
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: behind it. Because I was at first wondering if it

932
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: was like between factions in the public, in which case

933
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: we're not looking at a civil war, we're looking at

934
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: a genocide. Well, you had a you had a general

935
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: in where is it. I don't want to say the

936
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 1: wrong state, but you know, Mississippi, Alabamash type of state.

937
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: But this guy actually came out of his mouth saying, Oh,

938
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: our state's national guard doesn't work for the federal government. Bro, nigga,

939
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: what like is the national guard? Motherfucker? But ship like

940
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 1: that is starting to happen, you know what I mean.

941
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: So this we're not we're not talking about like like, oh,

942
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: maybe people that John served with, you know what I'm saying.

943
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: We're talking about like, motherfucker's who are in the ship

944
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: now with rank Don't forget Michael Flynn was the National

945
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: Security Advisor. But like you know, like, it doesn't get

946
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: any higher than that. It doesn't, it really does not

947
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: get like that's you know, that's like one of the

948
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: highest positions that a military man can have, you know

949
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and still be a military man and

950
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: not have to be a civilian. So it's like, I

951
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: don't know, I just it's just one of those things.

952
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: It would be hard. So you may not know this,

953
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: but it takes to like move a single just let's

954
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 1: say you have like a twelve man group within like

955
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 1: a hundred man squad of some sort in any military unit.

956
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: To get your weapons, you don't have to go to

957
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: another building and talk to an armor who has to

958
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: get approval from a first sergeant. It's just it's kind

959
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 1: of like one of those conspiracy windows. It would take

960
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: probably eighty people to approve you leaving with soldiers from

961
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: a base with a valid excuse and an operation plan,

962
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: and then to get AMMO is a whole another route

963
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 1: you have to go to do another There's no AMMO

964
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: depot near weapons in any military base for a reason

965
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: because nobody who has higher brass trusts anybody who isn't

966
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: for the most part. But if but can you can

967
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: you say, like with full confidence at some of these

968
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: gatekeepers and barriers of them. So the reason, the reason

969
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: why seven is because your brain they know their brainwashing

970
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: you on purpose when you're coming in, your susceptibility, like

971
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: if you were to be assessed by the FBI just

972
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: coming out of the military is really really fucking high.

973
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: This is why there's like debriefs in the army when

974
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: you do like crazy exotic ship. When you come back,

975
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: they have to like talk about what you did, Let's

976
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: talk about how that affects the mission plan, because they

977
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: don't want you to come away with the idea that

978
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: there's a conspiracy involved in some way and you to

979
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: tell another person. They're pretty balls deep about what what

980
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: level of detail they'll go into to make sure that

981
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: you're not leaving a base with weapons. But that doesn't

982
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: mean it can't have. Now, like you said, let's say

983
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: there's a brigadier general at a National Guard base in Virginia. Right,

984
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: Let's say that his first sergeant and lieutenants are all

985
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: on the Trump train, and then let's ay he has

986
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: to disseminate to his squad leaders to get all the

987
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: lower guys because it wouldn't be no general can go

988
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 1: and wake you up in your tent or your bunk,

989
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: wherever you're at, no matter how low rank you are,

990
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: that's not his job, and it would be odd and

991
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: everybody would stop him from his function or from doing that.

992
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: I know. So there was like and it's only because

993
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: the level of they brainwashed you to come in and

994
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: that's a that's a poor term. So it's in indoctrination process, right,

995
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: just like if you came from another country to America,

996
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: we it doesn't sound as bad, but we'd have to

997
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: indoctrinate you to like our ways. If you were to

998
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 1: immigrate in let's say you were like somebody that worked

999
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: with the U. S. Military in a foreign country that

1000
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: we worked in, we brought you in here, we would

1001
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: have to indoctrinate you into how everything works here because

1002
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: we can't expect you to perform without breaking laws. If

1003
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: you were to come from Afghanistan and or Iraq, I

1004
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: think the same thing. We don't give anybody that works

1005
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 1: in a military unit that's not super high ranked any

1006
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: power except for over other soldiers. Like you can't get items,

1007
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,479
Speaker 1: you can't get equipment. There's another dude, and then you're

1008
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: looking at them. Are not white, So you're gonna have

1009
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: to convince a lot of people have a lot of lies.

1010
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: From my view, I think one of the one of

1011
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: the things that the generals were saying, though, is that

1012
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: some of that can a lot of that convinced. That's

1013
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: the scary part, You're right, happen is the point that

1014
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: that's the point that they're making because one of the

1015
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: solutions that they suggested, like their their call to action,

1016
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: as it would be. It's not like they just put

1017
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: out there we're scared, you know what I mean, Like

1018
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: they actually feel that they have a solution. But their

1019
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: solution was that every single member of the military have

1020
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: to over undergo civics reviews. Not a bad idea because

1021
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: they've they've identified that, like because they're like like people

1022
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 1: to make sure everybody knows who they're supposed to take

1023
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: orders from, how the American government actually functions, who your

1024
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: bosses are, because, like we've been saying it, don't know

1025
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: how the government. Most Americans can identify how many chambers

1026
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: of government that there are, Like that motherfucker's don't know

1027
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: the secession order. They don't know who becomes president when

1028
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: this person dies or when that like a lot of

1029
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: these things are ship that's just kind of been taken

1030
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: for granted just off of like the strength of America. Fun. Yeah,

1031
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: that you know, I just I'm not I'm not too

1032
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: confident that just off the strength of confusion and not

1033
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: knowing who to take orders from, that that ship couldn't

1034
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: go down, let alone having like, you know, a good

1035
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: chunk of the military World War two, What did we

1036
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: have a bunch of soldiers from Germany saying that I

1037
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 1: was just following order. I mean, you're looking at the

1038
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: same situation and we're getting warnings in a similar way. Um.

1039
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I could I could point you there's there's

1040
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: mad countries in Africa where all it took is three

1041
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: hundred dudes in the bush organized to bring the whole

1042
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: ship down, the whole ship, you know what I'm saying.

1043
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: So if we're even even if we were even if

1044
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: we're playing like even if we're even if we're downplaying

1045
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 1: it to like the highest extent that we can, even

1046
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: if we want to be like yo, there's only like

1047
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: one percent of the American military that would be down

1048
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: to the ship we're riding with. What's that? I think

1049
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: it's bigger than that too, But I'm just saying, just

1050
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: for Devil's advocate, let's just say that it's only one percent.

1051
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: Well what's one percent of people? Well, here's what I'm

1052
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: thinking is that it's not so much that like they're

1053
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: the threat is of an organized like institutional affront on

1054
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: our democratic institutions. I mean, just drawing from a person

1055
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: old experience, had a cousin who was in the military,

1056
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: who learned how to kill people real good, um, and

1057
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: who then ran away from the military and killed someone

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01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: and so because partially because of the way it had

1059
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: being in the military had broken him, but also probably

1060
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: because he knew a lot about weapons and a bunch

1061
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: of other ship that made it easy to go out

1062
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: and fox somebody up real bad and take a life.

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01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: And so imagining what individuals who have that kind of

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01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: training in their individual capacity out you know, perhaps they've

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01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: been distarted from the military or bad or whatever. Um,

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01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: how that that knowledge can be used um two personal ends,

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01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: perhaps in an organized fashion if like a group of

1068
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: such folks comes together, so like, yo, we've taken on

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01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: the capitol or some ship. I think from what Jonna said,

1070
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm a lot less worried about like the actual military

1071
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: rising up versus like former members of the military utilizing

1072
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: what they know about warfare do warfare. That that is

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01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's to me, it seems like that

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01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: is the that's the situation at hand, you know, I

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01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: don't I don't think that like like like you said, Mariah,

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01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: I don't think that there's necessarily a threat of like

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01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: the military itself being like, oh, we're you know, like

1078
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: a part in the Specifically they're warning about rogue units,

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01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like like people breaking off

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01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: from the military to do exactly so I'm using the

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01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: training that they have to do other ship that's not

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01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: in the interest of anybody is. And and with that,

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01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: I feel that that's a very very realistic possibility. Like

1084
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: I said, none, none of this ship fires and numbers,

1085
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: and I think we'll we'll give ourselves a false sense

1086
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: of security by thinking that the numbers aren't there, because ay,

1087
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: we don't know that the numbers are there, but be

1088
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: it just takes one dude to be like, maga, I'm

1089
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: going into that nightclub with a gun. True. That's that's like,

1090
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: that's like a hundred lives ruined. You know what. I'm saying,

1091
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: you got two of those guys was doing that, that's

1092
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: two lives ruined. You know what I'm saying. If you

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01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: got like fifteen thousand, and that's being a conservative, yeah,

1094
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: I mean a very conservative number. If you have fifteen thousand,

1095
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: motherfucker's are like yo, the next time as soon as

1096
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: they give the word all right, we're doing it, right.

1097
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: I just I don't think that's you know, and each

1098
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: one of them is. I just know, And that's the

1099
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: ship I'm scared of. So I've told Mac this before,

1100
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: but um, I don't know if anybody if you can

1101
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: research it when we get off, but white nationalists have

1102
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: been trying to sneak people into military units for years.

1103
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: I had one in mind, a very vocal one that

1104
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: they probably should have done something over. I mean I

1105
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: told Mac about this, like when I got out. I'm like, no,

1106
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: you don't understand. There's people they just they just let

1107
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: this go. They don't care. Everybody's brought it up to

1108
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: the higher up people and they're like, hey, yeah, we trained.

1109
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: If we don't care, we don't give a fuck. And

1110
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: where does he go when he leaves? Alright, Yeah, so

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01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: we are going to take a little break, but when

1112
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: we come back, we're going to be talking about some

1113
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: sad news in the world of hip hop. So we

1114
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: will be right back after the jump. And I don't

1115
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: know if you guys are picking up my puppy growling,

1116
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: but he's growling. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we are back

1117
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: and we've got some music news for that ass. Unfortunately

1118
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: starting out with a bit of sad news, right, you

1119
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: want to you want to tackle this? Yeah, So drinking

1120
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: O the Ruler Um was really tragically stabbed and killed

1121
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: Um at the Once Upon a Time Um at Once

1122
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: Upon a Time as an l A concert at the

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01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: Bank of California Stadium. Um, a person with direct knowledge

1124
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: of the incident, told The l A Times that Um

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01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: he'd been attacked backstage by a group of people. Paramedics

1126
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: responded to reports of the stabbing at the stadium on

1127
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: eight forty pm and direk He was taken to the

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01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: hospital and critical condition and later died. Um Stoop Dog Um,

1129
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: in a statement, said that he had heard about the

1130
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: incident while in his dressing room getting ready to perform,

1131
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: and chose to immediately leave the festival grounds and since

1132
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: then been calling for peace for non violence, people to

1133
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: put down the weapons, put down their beef, and stop

1134
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: kill him another. Because we have lost a lot of

1135
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: folks this year, UM and in general and hip hop,

1136
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: this is just too frequent in occurrence, and so I

1137
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: find it heartening occasionally when rappers kind of stand up

1138
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: and speak out about the need for us to find

1139
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: peace to resolve conflicts non violently. But with these things,

1140
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: I feel like it lacks a framework. Like it's easy

1141
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: to say, but like, what does that mean? What does

1142
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: that look like? Who is modeling that for people? Who

1143
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: is um, you know, uh, proselytizing with the Gospel of

1144
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: what that actually would would look like in practice? Is

1145
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: the is the element that is missing when folks respond

1146
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: to killings in this way. I've I'm you know, it's

1147
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: my my two cents on this is like and I don't.

1148
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: It's like, I definitely don't. I'm not gonna be able

1149
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: to just say ship that people might just want to

1150
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: hear to make them feel better and stuff like that.

1151
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: But this is coming on the heels of Young Dolf

1152
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: being gunned down, rapper Young Dolf being gunned down in

1153
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: his hometown, and after that happened a couple of weeks

1154
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: after that happened, rapper for the rapper Freddie Gibbs and

1155
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: the rapper Jim Jones got into a similar situation to

1156
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: this one, like a crew on crew beef beat down

1157
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: at some public spot that didn't result with anybody getting stabbed.

1158
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: It just resulted with somebody people getting severely beaten and

1159
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: it was celebrated on the internet for a week. And

1160
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm serious, I'm like that every hip hop political publication

1161
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: was talking about Freddie Gibbs and Jim Jones got in

1162
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: to fight. It's so awesome, world star, world star, you

1163
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then literally the next week,

1164
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: the same situation should happens, except somebody has a knife

1165
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: and somebody gets stabbed. Somebody could have had a gun

1166
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: and bust off shots. And then we're having a different

1167
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: different discussions together. So there comes up there. I don't know,

1168
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: it just seems like there comes a point where like

1169
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: we're not talking about like sixteen year old kids, you know,

1170
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: like like some of these people are grown men, and

1171
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: like there has to be like some accountability of like,

1172
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: ye know, what the funk are we doing having a

1173
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: brawl and ship you know, like everybody's everybody's rich where

1174
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: they're like to make me. And again, this is like

1175
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: not putting any blame on any any victims of any

1176
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: of the situations. But if you know, if like we

1177
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: were more fortunate and somebody didn't have a knife, then

1178
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: this would this I have no reason to believe that

1179
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: people wouldn't be like bigging up this whole situation like

1180
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: it was some cool ship just because somebody didn't lose

1181
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: their life, like the like the the the chaos itself

1182
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: is cool, you know, I mean, but you can't just

1183
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: say stop doing that. You have to offer people alternative. So, like,

1184
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: you know, if you beat in with someone. I think

1185
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: it may have spoken on a recent episode about how

1186
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: this group in l A set up a boxing ring

1187
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: and when they were hearing about beefs going down to

1188
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: the community and like, oh they're about to go by

1189
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: and spring up your spot, they would bring people together

1190
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: to get in the boxing ring and put on boxing

1191
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: gloves and duke it out there, because it's a lot

1192
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: of harder to kill somebody if you bang on the

1193
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: head with a boxing glove. Um in in a monitor

1194
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 1: environment in which if it gets out of hand, there's

1195
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: people who could break up the conflict, and yet it

1196
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: was shown to be a really promising way to settle

1197
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: dispute because eventually somebody wins and somebody loses, and that

1198
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: there you go. You got your conflict resolution, get out

1199
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: the ring. Nobody died, and so it's still giving something

1200
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: you know or like people just don't have, because conflict

1201
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: resolution is not to something social, it's also something psycho social.

1202
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: And the fact that you have to you have to

1203
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 1: have the problem solving skills and the learned behaviors, the

1204
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: reasoning in order to understand different ways of duking this out,

1205
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: like and if you are have always been funneled into

1206
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: one way of thinking, Oh, I've been disrespected, I'm gonna

1207
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: go stab this nigger, like that's all you know how

1208
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: to do. You have to absolutely saying it's unacceptable, but

1209
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 1: it's not. But like if you say, don't do that,

1210
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: but don't give anyone an idea of what else they're

1211
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: supposed to do and engage in the intensive process of

1212
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: helping lead someone in that new direction, it's just a

1213
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 1: platitude to make someone else does to make Snoop Dogg

1214
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: look better. I agree. I mean, I'm not saying that

1215
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: I've got the answers or anything like that, so I'm

1216
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 1: not even approaching it from that. But I just feel

1217
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: like if we have to organize a charity boxing event

1218
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: or else, I'm susceptible to stab somebody in the neck.

1219
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: That's like, that's that's like a problem with me. You

1220
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I have an issue that

1221
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: needs to be addressed. If like you know what I'm saying,

1222
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, I mean, because everything you're

1223
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: saying is right and I agree with it, but it's

1224
01:08:55,400 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: like there comes a certain point where it's like you

1225
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: you can't recognize if we see these guys it's on site,

1226
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna while out, and then when the wild out happens, well,

1227
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: I mean somebody should have done something, you know, I mean,

1228
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: somebody should have done something about it when it's like

1229
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: they're the ones who were you know what I mean.

1230
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just it's just if I

1231
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what's gonna stop it. It's

1232
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: like we we could have been having this conversation resting

1233
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: and fights, you know, like we were having at nineties seven.

1234
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 1: We were having this conversation in two thousand two odd man,

1235
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: Why is why is ja rule fifty? Stabbing each other

1236
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 1: in the studio and ship like that we're having, you know,

1237
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 1: and it's just like it just takes one variable to

1238
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: these situations to turn it tragic and for it to

1239
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: not just be like some a haha, that was like

1240
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 1: a scuffle that you know, people got over. It's like

1241
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: just in the realm of celebrity and show business in general,

1242
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: like I'm sure many times people are in rooms with

1243
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that they hate, you know, even if we're just

1244
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: talking about rappers, I'm sure plenty of rappers go into

1245
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: situations where there's a crew they got beef with, or

1246
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: there's guys that they don't like, or there's something like that.

1247
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: It's just that extra step, like, well, I don't know

1248
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 1: what element it is that makes people like yo, yeah,

1249
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 1: like you know, it's funny. I don't know. I have

1250
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: a different view. I feel like, uh, it's amazing that

1251
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: it's not worse. So I remember coming to the conclusion

1252
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: a long time ago. I don't know what I read.

1253
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you, but that, uh, money isn't just evil,

1254
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: It's really just a representation of resources in our society, right,

1255
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: Like if I have five drops of water left and

1256
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,679
Speaker 1: this motherfucker wants four of them, and while he doesn't

1257
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: want four of them, but what he wants to do

1258
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: is take my image. An image in this society is

1259
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,759
Speaker 1: really highly prized for somebody that's in the image game.

1260
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: I mean, any affront to that money or resource is

1261
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: gonna result in some violence. I don't know, I could

1262
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: kind of, but I know it's bad. It's that I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying. I'm amazed that it's not worse, honestly. So,

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Speaker 1: like take take nineteen early ES wrap and what we

1265
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 1: were saying then about the drug game and prostitutes, all

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01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 1: the worship you could imagine, and now imagine you had

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01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 1: an online reputation to keep on top of that. I

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01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like we're doing a little bit

1269
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: better than I thought we would. I thought this ship

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01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: would have blown up a long time ago. And you know,

1271
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: I think I think the data backs up what you're saying,

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01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: because crimes of all kinds are historic lows, with the

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01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: exception of murder unfortunately, but like aggravated insults and things

1274
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: like that, lesser but still violent offenses are going down.

1275
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,759
Speaker 1: So like things are in on on like a macro level,

1276
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: better than they have ever been. But that doesn't negate

1277
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: the fact that like every time we lose someone that's

1278
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, the whole family that's devastated, friends and friends

1279
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 1: and you know, colleagues that are devastated, fans that are devastated,

1280
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: and so the trauma really ripples wide. But honestly thinks

1281
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: like it isn't like it like it could be a

1282
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: lot worse. Like John said, where are the o g s?

1283
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: Is my question? Where are the because I mean the

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01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: ogs like Snoop Dogg or say, everyone put the guns down, like, well,

1285
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: what are they instead of a gun? He's been forever,

1286
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: But I feel I don't. But that's what I feel like.

1287
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: I I that's the thing that I personally don't like.

1288
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,759
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you supposed to pick up instead

1289
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: of a gun? Like how about you started rapping? Like

1290
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 1: like whether you know? And this is not to put

1291
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,799
Speaker 1: the blame on Drake you, but like all the motherfucker's

1292
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,799
Speaker 1: who are in is Crewe. It's like y'all been crewed

1293
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: up with Homie this whole time so that he could

1294
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: get into position to where y'all like we don't got

1295
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 1: to be in the streets in the back smoothing with

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01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: the stars and ship like that. Who is the O

1297
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: G that's gonna like be like, Yo, this is ridiculous, guys,

1298
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 1: everyone show I mean or even like, let's handle this

1299
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: another time somewhere else, like like like that's that statement

1300
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: that Snoop Dogg made would have been real dope to

1301
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 1: not be in a letter hour after a motherfucker was

1302
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: already stabbed in debt. It would have been It would

1303
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: have been cool to see a viral video Snoop Dogg

1304
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: and his crew standing in the middle of those two

1305
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,600
Speaker 1: crews like yo, young man, I'm fifty, I'm the O G.

1306
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: Let me let me you guys calm down, because like

1307
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: coming up growing up in hip hop, there's mad stories

1308
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: about O G rappers stopping the rappers of our generation

1309
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: from killing and shooting each other and ship like that.

1310
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: There's a reason that a lot of people don't know

1311
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 1: that nas In Tupac had beef. Know what I'm saying,

1312
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 1: There's a reason a lot of people don't know the

1313
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 1: MC hammer almost got Motherfucker's shot for dissing them for

1314
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: thinking that he was sweet. You know what I mean

1315
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: because O G s were like, yo, man, we're making millions.

1316
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: Stop the ship. And that's what I just feel is

1317
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: like there's like a disconnect, you know. I mean maybe

1318
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,640
Speaker 1: it might be a generational I don't know. Um, I

1319
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: don't necessarily think that that's the that that it's like

1320
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 1: that cut and dry, but there is a failing in

1321
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:13,799
Speaker 1: this situation that goes beyond well, what would they supposed

1322
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 1: to do other than like start a massive like melee

1323
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: and fight each other? Like you know, it's it's like

1324
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, right, but it's like there's

1325
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: another event where it's like I just can't look at

1326
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: that mass a young man and think that everybody in

1327
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 1: there is just like a mindless, impulsive, instinctive animal is

1328
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: just gonna react and can't like critically think for them.

1329
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 1: So I mean, like, hey, guys, like we're having like

1330
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 1: a fucking like fifty men like fight at this show,

1331
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: Like you know, I mean like maybe we should maybe

1332
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: maybe we should chill right now. Like I don't think

1333
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: that's like too great of an expectation or to you know,

1334
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: am I making sense? So what do you do when

1335
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: someone disrespects you? Mac? I mean it's for me personally. Yeah, Like,

1336
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 1: what do you do personally when you're disrespected by someone personally?

1337
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: From like you know, and again just the personal thing,

1338
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: so I can't put that on anybody else personally. One

1339
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: of the ways that I have lived my life is

1340
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 1: I have lived to be the age that I am

1341
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: never having caused any harm to another black person. That's

1342
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: just me. That's me. I've never and John, you were there,

1343
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,640
Speaker 1: so you've you've seen me in the ships, you know.

1344
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I've definitely been in my share of fights.

1345
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: I've been in my share of drunken things. But I've

1346
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 1: put myself in a situation to where if I were

1347
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 1: in a situation that was going to lead me to

1348
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 1: potentially have to be in a physical confrontation with another

1349
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 1: black human being, I'll take that l I'll get embarrassed,

1350
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: I'll I'll back pussy down or whatever. I'll do that

1351
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: because I don't want to be in that situation, you

1352
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And just generally, like in a situation,

1353
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: like what do I do when I when I'm disrespected?

1354
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 1: I tend to think about what the worst possible outcome

1355
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 1: of a scenario could be, and that affects how I

1356
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: go about doing stuff, you know what I mean. So

1357
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:04,560
Speaker 1: I always imagine a motherfucker might have a gun. Is

1358
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,839
Speaker 1: the number one thing that I go to when whenever

1359
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm in a confrontation. So man, fuck you, Well fuck you.

1360
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 1: What you're gonna do about it? Man, I'll kick man.

1361
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 1: These motherfucker's a stupid ye know, these motherfucking stupid They

1362
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 1: got guys, I'm not, you got it? Whatever. That's that's

1363
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 1: usually like my response to ship like that. People can

1364
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 1: make fun of that, and people can be like, oh,

1365
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But it's like if if the choices, well,

1366
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 1: what was I supposed to do other than stab them?

1367
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: Then you know, then I'm that I'm a pump. Then

1368
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm just illustrating that, like sharing our personal expertise on

1369
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: the alternatives to engaging with violence. For me, when I

1370
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 1: get disrespected, I might go take a walk, I might

1371
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 1: say right about it. Sure, like you said, that might

1372
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 1: be seen as pussy ship, but it's these are these

1373
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:57,839
Speaker 1: are alternative norms that can be shared within the community

1374
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: of hip hop, but aren't being for one for one

1375
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 1: reason or another. Um, So that's what I'm saying, Like

1376
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: We'll put the gun down and pick up what it's

1377
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 1: it's not a show. Put your shoes on and take

1378
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: a lap, bitch. Like you were a writer, you like

1379
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 1: to write bar sit down and write about how piste

1380
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: off you are by this nick that's talking about you. See,

1381
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: if I'm popularizing other ways of dealing with this is

1382
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 1: what I mean when I say put the guns down

1383
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: and pick up something else. You're you're you know you're right,

1384
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: and and that that you're right, and that that just

1385
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: that takes you know, it's it depends on the people

1386
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: who are in those situations. It requires a huge norm

1387
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 1: is a huge cultural shift. Yeah, if I if I

1388
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 1: were a rapper that we're at that level to where

1389
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I meant rolling loud and these festivals

1390
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: and ship like that. In like a situation like that

1391
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: played out, it would be a viral video of like

1392
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: this dude screaming at me and me like being like

1393
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: a why you know what I mean, like being like

1394
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: a fucking dick head white and that's like just like

1395
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: dissing on him and like us like just like like

1396
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 1: hurling insults in our crews, yelling and you can't hear

1397
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: everything you'd be like, oh, do you guys see that

1398
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: video where Dope Knives crew and such and such crew

1399
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 1: were like yelling at each other and screwing each other,

1400
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: And that's what would have been with it. Because if

1401
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 1: I see you motherfucking my crew swing, I'm shutting it down.

1402
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm like, I am going to have the

1403
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 1: wherewithal to be like, yo, guys, this is my job.

1404
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, this is how I

1405
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: make money. If I was working at the car wash,

1406
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 1: y'all niggas wouldn't be coming in here starting starting to

1407
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 1: fight with somebody working because that that's gonna sunk up

1408
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: my job in my livelihood. So that kind of thing

1409
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: has to be taught. When everybody's talking about being a

1410
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: businessman in a mogul and I'm making billions and I'm

1411
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: trying to take over no right from wrong, They're not

1412
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 1: like idiots. They know they know what they're supposed to

1413
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:57,759
Speaker 1: be doing. Somebody who was in that situation new hey man,

1414
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 1: this is absolutely ridiculous. Everybody, however, was caught up in like,

1415
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: oh this was cool cruises fighting. We don't have we

1416
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 1: don't have the details on this incident. Whether or not

1417
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: someone tried to intervene and prevent the stabbing, we can't

1418
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 1: say that nobody didn't. It was this was the stabbing.

1419
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: Stabbing was a show, just like the crew fight. It

1420
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 1: was security and both of the like I'm not I'm not,

1421
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: you know, I can't imagine being famous like one of

1422
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: the crews, one of the crews. People are they just bros?

1423
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: Like I want I want some dude I don't know

1424
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 1: to like diligently unless he loses his job to be

1425
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 1: like watching entrances and ship. I don't want to deal

1426
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 1: with that ship? Why would someone want to deal with

1427
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 1: that ship? But I don't know When I was younger.

1428
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: When I was younger, horribly mac knew me at the

1429
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: precipice of me like me realizing that everything is not

1430
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 1: the way I thought it was, right, Like I kind

1431
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 1: of had a post military awakening of military are you awakening?

1432
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 1: And all of this was just defended on who I

1433
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: read and what I watched right like anybody else. But

1434
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: I mean now I have a ralsey and approach, like

1435
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 1: what would this look like if everybody did what I did? Right?

1436
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: Like how would I create a set of rules and

1437
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: not know who I would be when they're enforced. Um,

1438
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't know that's how I would do it now.

1439
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: But this is like some like step twelve logic ship

1440
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 1: that I don't know what step one is. Yeah, Mariah,

1441
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 1: what do you think we can do? Like, like, what

1442
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 1: do you think can be done? Just like uh, Like,

1443
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 1: I guess, I don't know, like it was like behaviorally

1444
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 1: or culturally to kind of just change that the mindset.

1445
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: I guess. Well, I mean we're already so we're already

1446
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: using music too established and in the sense established and

1447
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 1: reinforced a certain reality, and people increasingly through music are

1448
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: starting to branch off into different ways that things could be.

1449
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 1: You have folks like No Name or Sava or even

1450
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 1: Kendrick or a lot of different people who are talking

1451
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 1: more about mental health that are talking more about avoiding conflict,

1452
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 1: that are talking more about I don't know, a love

1453
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: of reading and various things that we don't historically associate

1454
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 1: with the black experience. And so through those means encouraging

1455
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 1: folks to speak on alternatives to the status quo of

1456
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: resulting and you know, resorting immediately to violence as a

1457
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 1: way to shift norms in the community, to get more

1458
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 1: people to say, oh that they got played a show

1459
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: with topic he was talking about, you know this or that,

1460
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 1: about taking a walk instead of hitting somebody in the face.

1461
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna reflect on that and building those relationships. So

1462
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, yeah, let's kick it after the show.

1463
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: And like, you know, I saw he was really heated

1464
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: and like beefing with those cats, Like let's you know,

1465
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 1: let's take a walk and talk about it as a

1466
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: way of helping shift some of those norms. Um, you know,

1467
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: I think I think in this case it does take

1468
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: a lot of I mean, obviously I think about the

1469
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 1: policy level, but it also has to be interpersonal within

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Speaker 1: communities to people, say to really start thinking intentionally about

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01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 1: like let's just not like I was saying, not just

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Speaker 1: put the guns down, but what alternatives would we like

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01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: to see people doing, and how do we mentor them

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01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 1: and getting to that place because they might be really

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01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 1: smartly you said, these people aren't idiots, but you're only

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01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 1: as smart as like if you're giving input to then

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01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 1: process and do something with. And so we gotta start

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01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,679
Speaker 1: giving people input to then like use their very smart

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01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 1: brains that they used to make very genius lyrics to

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Speaker 1: apply it to other circumstances in the life they're currently

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01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 1: not handling well. Smaria, what are your thoughts on perhaps

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01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 1: like the nature of the vein of hip hop that

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01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 1: we're talking about involved with having an impact in this

1484
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: because like I remember, I remember interview back in the

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01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 1: day with MC light and she was like they were

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01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: asking her about like the hip hop Cops, and you know,

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01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: it was back in like two thousand six when the

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01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 1: NYPD had their like hip Hop Task Force and they

1489
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: were like, you know, really good and they were asking

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01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: MC light about it, and she was like, I don't

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01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: worry about that ship. She's like, nobody's coming on my

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01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 1: tour of us looking for God. She was like, She's

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01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 1: like she's like nobody, nobody's pulling over Q two like

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01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 1: to see if you know what I mean, if his

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01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 1: crew is packing. It's like, you know what I mean,

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01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: because that's not the ship that we're doing. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I had this discussion with somebody the other day where

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01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 1: or me and Mariah. I think we've had this discussion before,

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01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 1: but it's like there's like we can't only say that

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Speaker 1: hip hop is the most influential, impactful force in the

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01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 1: world when we're talking about good ship and then be like, oh,

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01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: but we promise you that none of the influences were bad,

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01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And one of the influences

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01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 1: is that you get you know, if you if you're

1505
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: a little kid and you're listening to rap music growing up,

1506
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm gonna speak anecdotally just for my

1507
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 1: personal experience, there is a nature of don't back down

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01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 1: to like to to to hip hop music, especially the

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01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 1: ship that I was listening to growing up. And you

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01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 1: take aside that refrain that I told you about like

1511
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 1: fighting black people are being in physical confrontations with black people,

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01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:01,640
Speaker 1: you put that aside. One of my physical confrontations in

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01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: life are from a Napoleon complex of like, oh no,

1514
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 1: I can't back down. Oh like what DMX back down?

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01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm going at it, you know what I mean. Like

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01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: I'll say, I'll get my ask with to show you

1517
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: that I'm not no punk because fucking chuck the aint

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01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 1: no punk, and you know what I mean. Like, so

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01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 1: there is that element of it that it's like, hey,

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01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 1: if you're if, if you're if, your mind is being

1521
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 1: bombarded seven where I hit you with the strap, I

1522
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 1: hit you with the stick, We roll up on you,

1523
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 1: I pull up on site, I pull up on site,

1524
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: we catch you on site, pull up. You know what

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01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,440
Speaker 1: I mean? You know, then when you're in a confrontation,

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01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: maybe maybe that that makes nobody in a in a

1527
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: in a room where they can have a sober state

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01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, maybe we should back down in this,

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01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 1: or maybe we should deescalate the situation, you know what

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01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Maybe there's something subconscious where it's like, oh no,

1531
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: we gotta handle this situation. You can't disrespect my crew.

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01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 1: M you think there's any you think there's anything to

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01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 1: that or is that like just like oh no, absolutely,

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01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 1: I think that that like overlaps flat with what I

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01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: was talking about. Yeah, oh go ahead. I mean I

1536
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: was gonna say, it's funny like you mentioned, uh, I mean,

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01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're infantilizing a little bit, like is

1538
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 1: it the culture that swang us or is it uh

1539
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: not just musically, but but what you grow up in,

1540
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: like so environmentally, like we know this is the case

1541
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: uh DMX had like tax evasion court case before he died.

1542
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you ever heard about this,

1543
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: but they were gonna sentence him to five years, and

1544
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: they decided not to. They gave him like one year

1545
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 1: with parole, like the option for parole. And the only

1546
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: reason they did that is because they played slipping or

1547
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: Slipping for the judge. I don't know if you remember

1548
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 1: that song, like I'm slipping, I'm following, I can't get up,

1549
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 1: and the whole song is about like his life, like

1550
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,879
Speaker 1: how he was abused by his aunts and his uncles,

1551
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 1: and his his mom had died when he was early on,

1552
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 1: and like all the trials and tribulations, and they reduced

1553
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 1: the sentence to a year. And the judge's explanation was

1554
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 1: similar to Mariah's, like, uh, the environment that he was,

1555
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 1: how could we expect him to take five million dollars

1556
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 1: in his first year of having his first album, having

1557
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 1: no experience with money and this type of life, and

1558
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: now we're expecting him to pay back money he'll never

1559
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: have and we should never have expected him to pay

1560
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 1: And it sounds like you're infantilizing somebody. In the same way.

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01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 1: Ryan was pointing out that, like there's clearly some environmental

1562
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 1: issues here, and how do we change environmentally the way

1563
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 1: these people are educated? Right? But I don't know. I

1564
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 1: find myself stuck between both roads, Like you can't blame

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01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: either one of these things for me, Like there is

1566
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 1: a personal accountability there, But I don't know. I mean,

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01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't I don't necessarily think I'm I mean, I

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01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 1: don't I don't mean to like infantalize because I mean,

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01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that any at the mercy of the

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01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 1: ensway of the things that we listen to. You, I

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01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 1: mean that that's likeat so I shout up by school,

1572
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: like no, I'm not not necessarily something like that. But

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01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: again it's just again, it's just like you know, calling

1574
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 1: balls and strikes, you know what I mean. Like I

1575
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: would be lying if I were to say that I

1576
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 1: know for a fact that there is not that there's

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01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:13,640
Speaker 1: a generation if I were to say that there's a

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01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 1: generation of men who are my age, who at a

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01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 1: very young age, we're listening to me so horny and

1580
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 1: bitches ain't ship, and that thirty years later that might

1581
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 1: in some incremental way effect the effect how they treat women,

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01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's like just using

1583
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 1: that same sort of logic, It's like, yo, man, if

1584
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 1: you grow up, I bust you with the stick, I

1585
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:36,600
Speaker 1: bust you with the stick, and it's like that's regurgitated

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01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 1: over and over again. Then perhaps if you're in a

1587
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 1: situation you know, I mean, you might be less inclined

1588
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 1: to think what can I do to do? You know

1589
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that's not necessarily like a cause and

1590
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: effect you know, in infant infantile infantile infantalization. But you know,

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01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's just like like I said, it's

1592
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 1: it's all just like a net, like you know, like

1593
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 1: there's like emergent like the brain doesn't work on just

1594
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 1: we can't just say your neurons do it, or your

1595
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,799
Speaker 1: brain does it, or your sensory inputs on your body

1596
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: as well like brings consciousness. But what every scientists say

1597
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 1: is that it's like an emergent property. So like, yeah,

1598
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: that's a good point. Like this this does seem like

1599
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 1: it's all the things kind of wrapped up right exactly

1600
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 1: exactly all the things in any event, this is a

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01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: super tragic situation. Um rest in peace to Drake e

1602
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 1: O and you know, wishes his his family and his friends. Uh.

1603
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: And you know, regardless, Homie was just like a really smooth, cool,

1604
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: cool ass cat. You know what I'm saying. So hip

1605
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 1: hop lost one. Alright, y'all. Um, we've been going on

1606
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 1: and on, so we are about to go home and

1607
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 1: celebrate Christmas. Hope all you guys have a good Christmas

1608
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: with all your family. Hey John, of course, anytime, anytime, anytime,

1609
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 1: coming through. But we're gonna close it. We're gonna close

1610
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 1: it like we always do. And that's with raps. So Joe,

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01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 1: once you give us a beat and let's give some

1612
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 1: holiday raps. Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah, so so

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01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 1: hey yeah, pull up on the beat. And of course

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01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 1: it was slow when I gotta eat with a force

1615
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 1: to behold. She is antique like the Morse in the Code.

1616
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: Now I gotta spit like the pork in the roast,

1617
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: or I p draking up that ain't it? Stop violence?

1618
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 1: Every day? The same ship they used to be down

1619
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:33,560
Speaker 1: the lane switched fun Fox News. I gotta beat for

1620
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 1: the sat nick. I don't vibe with a corporate holiday.

1621
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:37,919
Speaker 1: Take your whole check. And of course there's a robbery

1622
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 1: and the music bullshit follows me and I gotta tie

1623
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:44,679
Speaker 1: for a present. Probably I'm a fucking I'm a bitter

1624
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 1: gridge looking like climbate the Pocka lips to when Nick

1625
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 1: all I really wants a little bitty house on the

1626
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 1: Helena Honey to block them lips on the Nigga trying

1627
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 1: fish for Nickel, watched the brains versus socks when niked

1628
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 1: instead of them sitting in the shock for nack ramon

1629
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 1: Fox Tom about Amazone workers killed to deliver of brox

1630
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 1: properly filled with some simple bundles of socks to love

1631
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 1: the building blocks could the way to but the box

1632
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 1: moved a billion, then the billion, then the billion, then

1633
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 1: like a phenivoment from a tropical illness. But that to

1634
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: this giant, the only one tripping And I'm open guy

1635
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 1: willing one day we overcome women, defeat these fucking villains.

1636
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 1: Hey cope, knife with Franca and we are waiting on reparations.

1637
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 1: How it is, See you next week. Waiting on Reparations

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01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:45,960
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01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:49,120
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