1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 2: I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobelt 3 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: Podcast on the iHeartRadio apps. We're on every day from 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 2: one until four, and then after four o'clock John Cobelt 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: Show on demand on the podcast. That's the podcast, and 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: you can listen to what you miss. All right, let's 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 2: get to Roger Bailey. Now, he's the attorney for the Palisades, 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: for the Palisades residents whose homes were destroyed in the fire. 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: They were doing depositions of state employees and firefighters, and 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: then Karen Bass's attorneys wanted all those depositions sealed for 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: at least thirty days. And now the City of Los 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: Angeles has sued the state of California over the Palisades fire. 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: That's right. I suspect it's when they lose these lawsuits 14 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: they want to spread out the damages. But let's talk 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: to the expert, Roger Bailey. He's on the front lines. Roger, 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: how are you. 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing great? John, Pretty interesting, isn't it? 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: Oh? This is a yeah, this is fascinating. I mean there, 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: I guess they're going to start to devour each other 20 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: because they know what's coming. 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: Uh. 22 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: Tell me is this the way I mean, the way 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: I read it. This has written at very dense legal eese, 24 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: So I'm going to defer to your interpretive skills. But 25 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: this is about trying to spread the blame and spread 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: the damages when that day comes. 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. So the thing that struck us as 28 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: being unusual is you may be aware that we have 29 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: a hearing in front of the court on Tuesday. It 30 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: was supposed to be yesterday. They had a flood at 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: the courthouse, so they moved it to Tuesday. But this 32 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: cross complaint did not need to be filed. There was 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: no deadline that they needed to meet. But the fact 34 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: that they filed it in advance of this hearing to us, 35 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: signals that the city is now piling on along with 36 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,639 Speaker 1: so cow Gas, who sued the state. More than seventy 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: insurance companies have now sued the state, So the city's 38 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: now piling going on. And in this document they're asking 39 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: the court one to find that the State of California 40 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: caused plaintiffs alleged injuries and damage, so that's all the 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: policy's fire victims. And then they go on to say, well, 42 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: if there's a finding that we the city and the 43 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: state are responsible. They were going to ask you to 44 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: kind of divide it up what they call a portion 45 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: or allocate the damages between the city and the state. 46 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: So this is a very interesting filing and the timing 47 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: of it is even more telling. 48 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: What's telling about the timing, well, you don't have They 49 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: didn't have to file it. 50 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: I mean normally these complaints for indemnity that they can 51 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: be filed years after a case is over, even where 52 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: you've got the government involved. Here, they didn't have to 53 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: file this until March. By my mass, they could have 54 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: waited until March to do this, and especially if they thought, 55 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: you know, come Tuesday the judge was going to toss 56 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: everything out. Why waste the paper to file this thing. So, 57 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: you know, the timing of its signals that they realized, 58 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: the city realizes the case. And again it's up to 59 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: the judge. Far be it for me to predict that 60 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: the filing of this suggests that they don't think the 61 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: case is going anywhere and they wanted to get this 62 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: on file. 63 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: Did your lawsuit target the state as one of the 64 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: defendants or just the city and the DWP. 65 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: No, No, absolutely, you know, I would say, as the 66 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: facts have evolved, the state has kind of become, along 67 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: with the DWP, become the primary defendant. All of the 68 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: testimony that I know we talked about before, where the 69 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: state park rangers or up above the palisades on right? 70 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right right, that's what I thought. So the 71 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: city suing the state here is just to ensure that 72 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: if there are damages, the damages are going to end 73 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: up being split somehow between the city, the DWP, and 74 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: the state. This is to make sure that they have 75 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: to pay a share. 76 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: That's right. And they also say, you know, the city, 77 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: in its filing has incorporated all of our allegations into 78 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: their own filing. Rather than setting forth two hundred pages 79 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: of the same stuff, They've incorporated everything we said about 80 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: the state into their own filing and have asked the 81 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: court to find that the state caused all of the 82 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: damages to the policy's fire victims. But if the finding 83 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: is that the city's also liable, that the court should 84 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: divide it up between them in some equitable manner. 85 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: What did you think of the Karen Bass situation? This week? 86 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Times story that she engineered the rewrites 87 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: of the after action report. 88 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I will tell you something, and I don't need 89 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: to be vague, but I took a deposition last Friday 90 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: of an Laft firefighter, and as with the prior firefighter depositions, 91 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: the city has preliminarily designated that entire transcript confidential for 92 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: the moment. But I will tell you without getting into 93 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: the particulars, what I heard last Friday was stunning, and 94 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: I think when this deposition is made public, which should 95 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: be shortly, it will be a game changer in what 96 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: you've read and heard through the la Times reports to 97 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: be corroborated. So I'll just leave you with. 98 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 2: That, right. Yeah, that's why I've been curious about this, 99 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: because they're kicking so much dust in the air when 100 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 2: ultimately the story is going to come out through your lawsuit. 101 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: I mean, eventually those all those depositions are going to 102 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: be released, and so the city attorneys wanted a thirty 103 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: day stand down. You can't release any information about the 104 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: depositions for thirty days. They want to review it and 105 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: see if there's some kind of sensitive matters that should 106 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: be on seal. That thirty days is going to be 107 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: up soon, isn't it. 108 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: Well, that's right, And the other thing I'll tell you 109 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: is when we objected, we see, you don't need thirty 110 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: days to look at, you know, testimony, which, per the 111 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: court's order, was just supposed to be what these firefighters 112 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: and state parks reps saw and heard when they were 113 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: up at the Lockman fire burnscar. They're out in the public. 114 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: There's nothing confidential about what they're doing up there. So 115 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: we've talked to the city's attorneys and they've agreed. You know, 116 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: we're going to turn these around. We're not going to 117 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: run the clock out for thirty days, and that should 118 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: mean that the public's going to get to see these 119 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: things very shortly. One thing I will say is I 120 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: anticipated these were all videotapes. I do expect that the 121 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: names of the witnesses and probably their faces will be obscured. 122 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: And look, we don't want to create any risks for 123 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: these folks that are testifying, but I think the substance 124 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: of what they say, everything that they say, will be 125 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: fully made public, with the exception of their names and 126 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: probably their faces on the video. 127 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, her denials and the interference in releasing 128 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: the transcripts has just got to be she's trying to 129 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: push this out of the way. Of her campaign right now. 130 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: It's bizarre. I mean, you know, look, I'm no politician, 131 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: but the smartest thing to do is a step up 132 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: and accept responsibility rather than constant deflection. And I'm just 133 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: sitting here stunned. Especially for somebody who's running or you know, 134 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: going to be running, you think you'd want to do 135 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: what the public is expecting, which is accept some responsibility, 136 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: step up and do something other than deflect and conceal 137 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: and hide. Let the public see all of the stuff. 138 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: I mean, this is public information. Well let them see it. 139 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: We're going to eventually, there's no putting a lid on 140 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: this story. It's too far gone. Everybody's got a pretty 141 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: good idea of what happened here. 142 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: Yep, that's right. It's just a matter of time. But 143 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: it's all going to come out as it should, all right. 144 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: Roger Bailey, thank you for coming on. 145 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: You bet, John, Take care. 146 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: Roger Bailey, and he is one of the lead attorneys 147 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: for thousands of Palisades homeowners who are suing the city 148 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: and the DWP and the state, and now the city 149 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: of la is suing the state. Bottom line, they want 150 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: the state to be paying a lot of the damages 151 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: as well. It's started on state land. And as you know, 152 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: the State Park and Reps employees are the ones who 153 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: chased out the Los Angeles Fire Department from the Lachmann 154 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:54,359 Speaker 2: fire site where the Palisades Fire rekindled into all that devastation. 155 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 156 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: six four. 157 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: You know what's fascinating about the California government, the Los 158 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: Angeles government, is how they can have They screw up 159 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: everything big or small, it doesn't matter the most trivial issue. Now, 160 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: this is a program, and you just think about all 161 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: the I mean, you know, they screwed up putting out 162 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: a fire, They screwed up unemployment payments. They got billions 163 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: and billions of dollars that disappear, and yes, I know, 164 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: I know it's a lot of theft, but even the 165 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: money that's not stolen is squandered simply because there is 166 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:40,359 Speaker 2: something wrong with the collective intelligence and the individual intelligence 167 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: of most government employees. Clearly, really smart people don't get 168 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: into government work. And this is a really simple program 169 00:09:55,160 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: here in California. Now, the premise of it is a third. 170 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: The California government wanted to take more cars off the road. 171 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: That garbage again, you know their nonsense. They're hysteria about 172 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 2: climate change, right, and they keep trying to come up 173 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: with wacky ideas. And this one was to have people 174 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: drive electric bikes to incentivize them to get an e bike. 175 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: Of course, electric bikes are if you walk on any path, 176 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: are terrified because people go really fast and they seem 177 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: like I mean, I drove one once and I have 178 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: felt on the verge going out of control the entire time. 179 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 2: And I don't want to walk on paths or sidewalks 180 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: where there's stupid people and e bikes. They came up 181 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: with this program you get a voucher and it would 182 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: give you a big discount on an electric bike, and 183 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: they awarded twenty three hundred vouchers and it didn't work. 184 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: They thought that people buying e bikes would give them 185 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: a feasible alternative to driving to work or the grocery store, 186 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: or to visit relatives. This is according to the Los 187 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: Angeles Times, Karen Garcia. Would you ever take an e 188 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: bike from Woodland Hills to Burbank? Of course not, of 189 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: course not. You wouldn't consider it, even if they were 190 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 2: giving you a discount. Voucher to buy one. No, there 191 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 2: is no human being in the city of Los Angeles 192 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: that is going to take an e bike to work 193 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: when they have a car. That's not happening, or to 194 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: go to the grocery store. 195 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 4: Now, if I wanted to go to the Whole Foods 196 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 4: in Woodland Hills from my house, maybe I'd consider, you know, 197 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 4: getting on an e. 198 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: Bike downhill from that mountaintop bench. That'd be fun, you 199 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: know how. 200 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 5: You never I've never been on an e bike. 201 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: By the way, don't don't go on I mean, don't 202 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: you don't. 203 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 5: Burn any calories on those things? 204 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 4: No, I mean it's kind of cheating when you know, well, 205 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: I guess it isn't cheating, but it's not really. 206 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 5: It's definitely not exercise. 207 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: It's not exercise. And it's also what I didn't like 208 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 2: about it is like I didn't feel like I had 209 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: control over it. Right, Well, you're when you're actually pumping 210 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 2: the pedals, you can that. I just felt like this 211 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: thing could be Can. 212 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 5: You even ride a regular bike? 213 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: Can I ride a regular bike? 214 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 215 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I can ride a regular bike. You don't fall, No, 216 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: I don't fall because I. 217 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 5: Just assumed you had some balance issues. 218 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: Balance issues, and where would you Why would you think that? 219 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 4: Because you you you talk about how you can't even 220 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 4: screw in a light barb. You can't do anything. You 221 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 4: can't your your finger. I mean I watched you can't 222 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 4: even type. So I didn't think you'd be able to 223 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 4: ride a bike. 224 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: No, I can ride a bike. I had more problems 225 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: with with my with hand coordination. 226 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm sorry. 227 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: I could I could sit and pedal though. 228 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 5: Man, well I know you can pedal. I just assumed 229 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 5: you'd fall. 230 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: No, I no, I don't fall. Okay, I can ride 231 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: a bike. 232 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 4: You can't dance either, you say, so, I can't know, 233 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 4: So I just made it. 234 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: Did Sorry, I've admitted to all my flaws. Unfortunately, you've 235 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: remembered the. 236 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 5: Ball, you know, forget? 237 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's it's it's uh a talent that mostly 238 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: women have. Women can remember all the faults of the 239 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: men in their lives. Uh. Now, e bikes can run 240 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: into the thousands of dollars, So there was a generous 241 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: voucher program this is your tax money, okay, which heavily 242 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 2: subsidized or completely offset the purchase price. So people said, oh, 243 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 2: free e bike, cheap e bike. Come in. Now they 244 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: get the cheap e bike, but it doesn't mean they're 245 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: biking to work. This is what's crazy. This is what 246 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: the dumbass bureaucrats don't understand. People like free stuff, even 247 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: if they don't need it, even if they don't want it. 248 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: They hear it's free or it's ridiculously cheap, so they'll 249 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: sign up for the program. And the writer here says, 250 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: with safe protected bike lanes and streets designed for humans, 251 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: not only cars, we can have a future with an 252 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: environmentally sound commuting option. This is the propaganda. Insert it 253 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: in the middle of the story safe protected bike lanes. No, 254 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: on the roads near my house where there's bike lanes, 255 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: the bike riders are moving out into the regular road lanes. 256 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: They're not using the bike lanes. In fact, I'm driving 257 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: down San Jacente the other day, which has bike lanes, 258 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: and I had like five middle aged women biking slowly 259 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: in front of me, really slowly, for about about a 260 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 2: half a mile, and I'm behind them going, please don't 261 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: tep me here, Please, you're really pushing it. Just get 262 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: out of the way, Go to a park, go to 263 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: the beach path. You're not in the middle of a 264 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: mazing road. 265 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 5: That is maddening when that happens, and it. 266 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: With this environmentally sound commuting option, get out of here. Yeah, 267 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna bike from the west side to Burbank, go 268 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: up the Sepulvita Pass and down the Subpulvita Pass. Where 269 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: would I bike on the shoulder of the four h 270 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: five or maybe I'd handle the blind curves of Sepulvita Boulevard. 271 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: Despite wide public interest, the program abruptly ended last year because, uh, 272 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: the website kept crashing and they ran out of money. 273 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: One woman said that she got the h she got 274 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: the eat bike. Uh for ninety bucks. She got so 275 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: much of a she used to take the Metro. 276 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: There. 277 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: You see, the metro is supposed to be an acceptable 278 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: form of transportation. But when when the states started giving 279 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: out free or very cheap e bikes, it's like, Oh, 280 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ditch the Metro. I won't get stabbed on 281 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: my e bike. She goes, there's this program. Just whip 282 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: out your phone. It was called the California e Bike 283 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: Incentive Project. 284 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: And. 285 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: You got a voucher of two thousand dollars. Holy Mecca, 286 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: we got two thousand dollars off, but the money is 287 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: all gone, and the website kept getting flooded by an 288 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: overwhelming number of people, more than one hundred thousand, So 289 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: all you got were frozen web pages and error messages 290 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: because you were giving out free stuff. That's why. Look, 291 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: I worked at a lot of radio stations, right and 292 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: you know, you'd go to some event and they'd set 293 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: up a card table, you know, back back where they 294 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: did these things. Right now, now T shirts cost too much, 295 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: but they hand out free T shirts. Do you know 296 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: how long a line would form for a cheap free 297 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: or no, not a cheap T shirt, a free T 298 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: shirt with a radio logo on it. 299 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 4: Do you know that when I wear a KFI logo 300 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: of something, I have people asking me can I buy that? 301 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 5: How can I buy that? 302 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 303 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 5: And if it's free, oh my. 304 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: God, yeah, I know you better watch. They might just 305 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: rip it off your off your body. So anyway, they 306 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: they had to stop the whole program because they ran 307 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: out of money. Too many people were demanding free or 308 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 2: cheap e bikes and the website didn't work anyway, and 309 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: it just became another failure of the government. Nobody deserves 310 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 2: a free e bike. Nobody does if you feel you 311 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: are polluting the planet, then go to work, save your 312 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 2: money and buy your own e bike. I don't want 313 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 2: I want to pay for your e bike. I have 314 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 2: no interest in buy your e bike. There are things 315 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: I want to buy in my life. I don't want 316 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: to buy stuff for you, your nutty ideas. 317 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 318 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 3: six forty. 319 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: We are on every day from one until four o'clock. Oh, 320 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 2: the podcast is now up every hour. I've been telling you. 321 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 2: I know, yesterday didn't happen. We had some stupid glitch, 322 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: but everything's been fixed. And now at the end of 323 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: every hour you could go to the iHeartRadio app and 324 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 2: download the podcast for that hour and we live it 325 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: all over again. All right, And three twenty three fifty 326 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: we're going to do the moistline. I have a very 327 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: sad animal story. I haven't had an animal story. 328 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 5: In a while, and it's been nice. 329 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you, University of Minnesota is going 330 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 2: to be fined perhaps over fourteen thousand dollars. They had 331 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 2: this green energy project going on. It was the University 332 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 2: of Minnesota eola's Wind Energy Research Field station, and they 333 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: had put up wind turbines. You know what wind turbines 334 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: can do to birds? Yes, solar panels too. Like solar 335 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: panels when they concentrate the sun's light rays and produce 336 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: all that heat, Yeah, it can burn them, incinerates them. 337 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: Just in fact, remember when when the birds fly over 338 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 2: a solar panel, if they get caught in the ray 339 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: of sunlight that's being concentrated on the panel, you hear 340 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: a sound and the whole the whole bird gets incinerated 341 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: in mid air. 342 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 5: And does it feel that Because it's so quick. 343 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: It probably happens too quick for them to actually feel it. 344 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: And and it becomes like, uh, just disconnected molecules, Like 345 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 2: there's no there's no carcass, there's nothing. It's just a 346 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: hissing sound. And okay, that's an actual bird. 347 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 5: Eric literally had to run over there just to do that. 348 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 2: We rehearse procedures in order to upset you. That's fun. 349 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: He knows the cue. Well, now this is really bad though. 350 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: Fox News got a hold of photos of the moment 351 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 2: that a wind turbine at the University of Minnesota. It 352 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 2: was spinning around and a bald eagle flew into it, 353 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: dismembering the bald eagle into three pieces and leaving a 354 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: bloodied carcass on the floor below. 355 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 5: Okay, can I ask a question, why would we need 356 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 5: to see that video? 357 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: Well, they actually published the photos on the website. Why well, 358 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 2: they show you the damage that these wind turbines does. 359 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 5: Can figure it out. 360 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: It murders birds, these things. So they're going to be 361 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: fined fourteen thousand, five hundred and thirty six dollars for 362 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 2: illegally killing what the Department of Interior called a national treasure. 363 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 2: And there's a photo here of the moment of impact 364 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: in which the bald eagle collides with the turbine and 365 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 2: splits into three And the university knew that bird collisions 366 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: were danger and they were in the process of testing 367 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: its collision detector sensors. Seriously, they were in the middle 368 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 2: of testing the collision centers and this bald eagle, I guess, 369 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: decided it was going to be the test dummy. I 370 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: wonder if this bald eagles related to those ones up 371 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 2: in Big Bear. Oh yeah, they washed their eggs, didn't they. 372 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 4: I think I think Jackie has laid a couple more. 373 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 4: I think I saw that somewhere I. 374 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: Shadows really doing the job there. Huh, I saw it. 375 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 5: I think on Facebook. I have to confirm that. 376 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 2: Yeh, lucky him nature that was very Jackie were going 377 00:21:55,160 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 2: back to the next here, so they so that I 378 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: guess the system didn't work. The lower torso and tail 379 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: were found by technicians first, and then they found the 380 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: head and the wings a month later. So I guess 381 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 2: the head and the wings went flying. And the US 382 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 2: Fish and Wildlife Services has told the university now that 383 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: they the turbine is dangerous to eagles and you have to, 384 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: I guess, change the policy somehow. This turbine was funded 385 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: by an eight million dollar grant from the Obama Energy 386 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: Department in twenty ten. We spent eight million dollars of 387 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 2: our tax money just to slice up a bald eagle. 388 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: I don't know how much electricity we got from this 389 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 2: wind turbine, but it's not worth the life of a 390 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: bald eagle. 391 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 5: No, it's not. And I misspoke. We don't have new eggs. 392 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: Or we don't have anyone. 393 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 5: No, we don't. 394 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 4: I thought we it would have been a bigger story. 395 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 4: I thought I saw something. 396 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, itepeful. 397 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 4: That's why I was, I mean, because I was very 398 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 4: sad when the ravens ate the tack the eggs. 399 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: Two bald eagles were killed by wind turbines and the 400 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 2: Nebraska in Illinois November, and a company, a renewable energy company, 401 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: is being fined thirty two thousand dollars for that. Another 402 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: bald eagle was killed by a turbine in Nebraska back 403 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: in March of twenty twenty four. So these are deadly things. Now. 404 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: I encountered, my wife and I encountered a dead animal 405 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: on our little hike through the palisades. What animal, Well, 406 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: it was a dead skunk and it had been mauled 407 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 2: by some predator. There's a lot of coyotes there, and 408 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 2: I can't imagine what that was like for the coyote 409 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: because it was only partly eaten. And I have a feeling. 410 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 5: Even a coyote has its limitations. 411 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: In the middle of the attack, the skunk bag burst, 412 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: and that coyote is going to have that stink on 413 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: him for the rest of his life. Probably that's never 414 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 2: going away. 415 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 5: Well, then maybe that coyote will never attack any. 416 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: Dogs and he's not gonna his friends and family are 417 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: gonna want nothing to do with them. Yeah, because it's 418 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: not like humans. You know, they have ways where you 419 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: could scrub off the stink. Oh yeah, but I think 420 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: you're supposed to take a bath and tomato soup or something. 421 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 5: I don't know. 422 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 4: Fortunately, my dogs have never been sprayed by a skunk, 423 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: and I haven't either, But that is that that's been 424 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 4: a fear in the past. 425 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: I have a picture of the dead skunk if you 426 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: want to see it. 427 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 5: I don't like to see anything. 428 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: The first one I thought of, it's like, oh, it's 429 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: a dead skunk. Debora would love to see you. 430 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 5: I hate, I hate, I hate. 431 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: Do you remember you remember that song dead Skunk in 432 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 2: the middle of the Road, No, Loud and Wane right 433 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 2: the third. No, it was a country song. It's a 434 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: big hit. 435 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 5: I guess I missed it. 436 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: Oh and I remember it and uh. I used to 437 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 2: play it a lot for my sons in the car. Yes, 438 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: I had a CD player that in the car, and 439 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: I would collect some of my favorite songs from my childhood. 440 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: Are your kids, Oh, they're perfectly damaged. I didn't want 441 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: to be dude, but they remembered it. Because when we 442 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 2: finally got an Alexa, you know, where you could request anything. 443 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: One of my sons goes Alexa played dead skunk in 444 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: the middle of the road. Was right there? Was was 445 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: right there? 446 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 5: Well, I would have never played that for my kid. 447 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: This well, obviously you're a better parent than I am. 448 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: Thank you, and just about anybody is right when we 449 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: come back. Believe it or not, you know they have 450 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: absconded with extra tax money here here in La County 451 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: in order to steal it on homeless programs. Well, they 452 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: have stolen so much money they now have to cut 453 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 2: homeless programs for two hundred million dollars. I don't know 454 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: exactly how we're paying more money in homeless taxes, but 455 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: they're going to be cutting homeless spending. Sort that out. 456 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 2: Coming up next. 457 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI. 458 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,479 Speaker 2: Am six on every day from one until four o'clock. 459 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: You can follow us at John Cobelt Radio, on social 460 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 2: media at John Cobelt Radio, or you can and you 461 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: can subscribe on YouTube. Go to YouTube dot com slash 462 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 2: at John Cobelt Show. YouTube dot com slash at John 463 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: Cobelt Show and you'll get a notification. We put up 464 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: YouTube segments several times a week and you could be 465 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: the first to watch them. You pay attention. Well, this 466 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: is crazy. You know, they have repeatedly increased taxes for 467 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 2: homeless programs in the county and the city, and they 468 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: the county and the city has then allowed nonprofit groups 469 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: to steal money, to allow these agencies to steal money. 470 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: And now despite all the tax revenue they're getting in 471 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: the La, County of La is cutting two hundred million 472 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: dollars in homeless services. Now, in twenty twenty four, people 473 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: voted for a sales tax, so it wasn't that long 474 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: ago that people voted for the increase. Now the money 475 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: is not going to be spent the way it was. 476 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: Two hundred million dollar cut. For example, the Pathway Home 477 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,239 Speaker 2: program is getting ninety two million dollars in cuts, So 478 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 2: you're going to close thirteen sites. Pathway Home is a 479 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 2: county program that cleans up encampments and moves people into 480 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 2: motels and shelters. Well, they're cutting ninety two million. What 481 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 2: does that mean? Fewer encampments are going to be cleared, 482 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 2: Fewer people are going to be put away in motels 483 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 2: and shelters. In fact, Rachel Cassenbrock, a spokeshole for the county, 484 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 2: said the number of new encampment cleanups in which people 485 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: are moving into motels will drop from thirty to ten 486 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 2: next year. That's what you get for the extra two 487 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: hundred million dollars of your tax money. They're gonna they're 488 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: gonna cut the encampment cleanup by two thirds, and then 489 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 2: the Department's gonna close thirteen Pathway Home motel sites, So 490 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: the encampments, the encampment clearances will be way down and 491 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 2: the number of motel sites way down because they have 492 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: a deficit. And uh, twenty seven million will be cut 493 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: from outreach outreach navigation programs, so those aren't worth anything. Uh, 494 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: they're supposed to help homeless people get into housing. I I. 495 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: This doesn't make any sense, though, are they are? They 496 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: just gonna steal the money right up front and not 497 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: bother to pretend that they spend it on encampments and 498 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: motels and outreach. It's like, just take it off the top. 499 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 2: Let's let's save time here, all right, Let's let's not 500 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: bother with the paperwork anymore and the niceties and the 501 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: false nonprofit store fronts and all that. The cost to 502 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: run the entire system is rising, and some state and 503 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: federal funds that used to pay for the programs are 504 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: going away. Well, the state funds are going away because 505 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: the Newsom's crowd wants to steal the money right there 506 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: in Sacramento and not pass it down. The federal money, Well, 507 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: there's no way the feds should should be funding any 508 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 2: of this nonsense. Sean Morris, he's vice president of the 509 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: Union Station Homeless Services, says he understands the county's difficult 510 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: budget situation. Well maybe if they weren't blowing billions of 511 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: dollars on sex abuse claims. Because they are, and not 512 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: all of those abuse claims might be real. So he says, 513 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: that's going to result in more people experiencing homelessness for 514 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: longer periods of time. It's not experiencing homelessness, okay, it's 515 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: going to be more people with mental illness and addictions, 516 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: drug addictions, that's what it is. They're not experiencing homelessness, 517 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: they're experiencing drug addictions and mental illness. They will never 518 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: say that. God, yeah, I don't have time for it. 519 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 2: But the clip came out this week of some kind 520 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: of council meeting. I forget where we've got the clip. 521 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: I just don't have time to play it now, and 522 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: and and and and somebody on the on a council 523 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: or mayor or somebody like that, freaking out because a 524 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: person at the meeting UH used the term homeless instead 525 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: of unhoused. That's what was fascinating about this. Instead of vagrant, bum, 526 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: drug addict, mental patient homeless, So homeless is now UH 527 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: can considered a pejorative. It's unhoused. And the public official, 528 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: I think she was a mayor, starts scolding, start scolding people. 529 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: She's really worked up that the word homeless was used 530 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: instead of on house. What is with them in language? 531 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 2: This crowd constantly changing the language. Well, we don't want 532 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: the stigma a school board official. You can go find 533 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 2: that clip. We can play that later. Yeah, play it 534 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: in the next hour, school board official. What throng with people? 535 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 2: This is what they're They don't They don't get the 536 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: people off the street. They don't get the people mental 537 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: health treatment, they don't get them a drug treatment. They 538 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 2: sit in the meeting and argue about what to call them, 539 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: or you did goes or on Mandami's way and just 540 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 2: let them freeze to death, right then don't have to 541 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: worry about their mental illness or drug addiction. You don't 542 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: have to worry about funding cuts, you don't have to 543 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 2: worry about calling him homeless or in house. Just let 544 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: him freeze to death. That's what they've happened. That's what's 545 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: happened in New York City over the past week or two. 546 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: All right, we come back. We're gonna talk to Richie Greenberg. 547 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, speaking of the homeless San Francisco. 548 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: Richie Greenberg is a writer and commentator in Sacramento, and 549 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: there's a couple of couple of items we're going to 550 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: discuss with him. For one thing, they are suddenly making 551 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: San Francisco squeaky clean in certain neighborhoods because of the 552 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, and San Francisco is sue getting sued over 553 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: a reparations plan for black residents. There was news that 554 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: San Francisco had passed a plan or the mayor signed 555 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 2: a plan. But I guess not good enough. Talk about 556 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 2: all that with Richie Greenberg. Next, Stebra Mark Live in 557 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: the KFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening 558 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: to the John Cobalt Show podcast. Always hear the show 559 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: live on KFI AM six forty from one to four pm. 560 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: Every Monday through Friday, and of course anytime on demand 561 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app.