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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 2>having their first showcase. It's in Mudi Chin. I can

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<v Speaker 2>never say it right. I want to call it Matuchin.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Matouchin. Sometimes I'll say the tucin mootouching. I have

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<v Speaker 2>said it right maybe twice in my life. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>in South New Jersey and they're having their first championship

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<v Speaker 2>match with the men and the women. Happy to announce

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<v Speaker 2>here on the show that the men's championship match is

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<v Speaker 2>the Indie God Matt Cardona versus The King of the

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<v Speaker 2>Indies Cult Cabana, and the women's championship matches are Lady

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<v Speaker 2>eller Ring and Lady Delander, who you guys both saw

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<v Speaker 2>on NXT. Both women are amazing, They're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>awesome matches. That's September ninth. The Premiere streaming network is

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<v Speaker 2>Slammer Versary and watch Bully Ray whip some ass this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Wo what Jeff talk to me, dude? You want to

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<v Speaker 2>watch Bully Ray kick some ass formerly known as Bubba Ray.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Bubba Ray. I love the dun super underrated,

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<v Speaker 3>always have.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't wrestling fans don't underrate them, but people who

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand wrestling wouldn't get them and they'd be underappreciated.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I feel like wrestling fans freaking love the Dudley Boys.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, so, Matt Cordona and Colt Cabana, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 3>these dudes ones called the King of the indies and

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<v Speaker 3>ones called the indie God, and they're gonna, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna try to figure that out with their match.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the thing. King not as good as God. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>God beats King.

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<v Speaker 1>No, unless you're an atheist.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, col Cobana doesn't believe, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, yeah, Okay, you're a god, bro, Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>that could be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's all too, he's all King of the Castle.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh big whoop, you think you're a god.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a they have a cool story.

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<v Speaker 2>Like cold Cabana really innovated independent wrestling in the form

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<v Speaker 2>of merchandise. He was one of the first to like

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<v Speaker 2>pave a path and show how successful you could still

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<v Speaker 2>be by while doing merch on the indie tours, and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of ler sort of followed that model and suit,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that's why a lot of people call him

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<v Speaker 2>King of the Indies. And then Cardona comes in. He

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<v Speaker 2>leaves WWE, he goes to I think it was GCW

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<v Speaker 2>and does that crazy death match against Nick Gage where

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<v Speaker 2>he's just bleeding everywhere in his friggin moms in the audience.

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<v Speaker 2>And because he bled the way he did and his

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<v Speaker 2>willingness to everybody like in the hardcore world just fell

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<v Speaker 2>in love with him and started giving him all this love,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he just started collecting belts and all these

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<v Speaker 2>indie promotions, and then he started doing the merch thing

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<v Speaker 2>that Colt does. So then he's like, basically, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>created it, but I evolved it. Now I'm the indie god.

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<v Speaker 2>And Cold Cobana's like, what fuck you? You better not

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<v Speaker 2>forget my name, and he's like, your name's already been forgotten,

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<v Speaker 2>your son of it. And now they can beef it

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<v Speaker 2>out and we can see who truly is the champion,

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll get the first ever Premier Championship Network Championship belt.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully I can get like a replica and show it

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<v Speaker 1>off to you. I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Those guys are both great guys too. I've met both

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<v Speaker 3>of them and they're nice guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I have too, man.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I worked at WWE sadly during his Scottie

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<v Speaker 2>Goldman phase, which was not good. I didn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>write for it, but they asked me to help like

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<v Speaker 2>fix it a few times, and it was very difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to give him what he deserved within the parameters that

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<v Speaker 2>were unmovable as far as Vince was concerned and it

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<v Speaker 2>was really hard to get him over based on what

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to allow him to do. And he

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<v Speaker 2>knew it. He still went after it and went out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Christa Joseph DJ knew it, but he still committed everything

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<v Speaker 2>he could. And I knew it and I tried my best,

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<v Speaker 2>but we just couldn't get that. We couldn't get that

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<v Speaker 2>gimmick through. Man, we just couldn't get it to work.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I might be misremembering your opinion on this subject,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm pretty sure you're not crazy about death matches, right,

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<v Speaker 3>because you just referenced the.

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<v Speaker 2>The blood is so like, I like fake blood, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I like horror movies where all the blood is used

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<v Speaker 2>up and the next horror movie is like, all right

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<v Speaker 2>with go get some blood, and like, I'm sorry it

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<v Speaker 2>was all used up on that movie, Freddy like, but

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<v Speaker 2>when it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Real blood, I'm like, oh God, I know that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus, it's just hard, man, it's really hard for me

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<v Speaker 2>to watch. I'm soft man, I'm sawft.

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<v Speaker 3>No you're not, but I was right, And remember that

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<v Speaker 3>you're not crazy about the death matches. Guys like me

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<v Speaker 3>grew up in the early nineties late eighties kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like was when we were like learning things and finding

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<v Speaker 3>our own interests like ECW. The success of ECW was

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<v Speaker 3>it was just so gritty and extreme. We just talked

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<v Speaker 3>about the Dudley Boys, which no one gives any credit

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<v Speaker 3>to Spike Dudley as one of the Dudley Boys who

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<v Speaker 3>took the best bumps into The crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy was like Gumby Man. He just body would fold

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<v Speaker 1>and bend. Oh, he's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not even like stiff now, like he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>any like long term injuries or anything. The guys, you know, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>what I was gonna say about this, what's keeping for

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<v Speaker 3>ae W and WWF for that matter, for not having

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<v Speaker 3>also like a deathmatch built, and there's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's like one death match per pay per view, or

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<v Speaker 3>there's like, you know, like why don't put a storyline

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<v Speaker 3>like that, put a belt on Nick Cage.

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<v Speaker 2>AW did a storyline with Chris Jericho and Nick Age

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<v Speaker 2>where he came in and they actually fought and had

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<v Speaker 2>basically a deathmatch. So they've done it. But WWE East

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<v Speaker 2>publicly traded man. They will never really ever have a

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<v Speaker 2>deathmatch ever. It's not even up for debate. I guarantee

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<v Speaker 2>you it wouldn't even be up for debate if you

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<v Speaker 2>brought it up as a as a writer in the

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<v Speaker 2>creative room. They wouldn't even let you bring it to Vince.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just it wouldn't. They're too scared of that

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<v Speaker 2>with stockholders. You can blame them for it, or you

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<v Speaker 2>can understand that that's just the way it is for

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<v Speaker 2>it to be as successful as it's become.

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<v Speaker 1>These wrestlers can get.

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<v Speaker 3>Hurt anyways, right, These wrestlers think every everything they're doing

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<v Speaker 3>is they're letting the son of Vince jump.

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<v Speaker 1>Off forty foot ladders, And.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, I can't imagine, because a death match is

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<v Speaker 3>just the same kind of danger, except you've added like.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much blood, dude, There's like there's so much blood. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thumb oh, thumbed, stuff like that they've done.

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<v Speaker 2>WW has done thumb tacks a couple of times in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the modern era, but well not modern era,

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<v Speaker 2>but in the last like ten years, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen a thumb tack match or that could have

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<v Speaker 2>been aw it's all blurring together, but yeah, they're way

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<v Speaker 2>against that that super gory kind of blood and not

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<v Speaker 2>for the reasons I am. I'm not even against it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just really hard for me to watch. Like, however,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to wrestle wrestler.

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<v Speaker 3>Something might want to think about if anyone out there

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<v Speaker 3>might be starting some sort of wrestling federation.

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<v Speaker 2>Just something look for for my own based on like

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<v Speaker 2>the style it is. They'll definitely be a death match

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<v Speaker 2>that I know. I've said that it wouldn't be, but

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<v Speaker 2>just the style of that, it's going to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>There will be. It'll just be hard.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know how much people love those. And you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're seeing the literal sacrifice of an artist you like

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<v Speaker 2>right in front of you, just for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And that means a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's not even when there's there's no TV cameras,

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<v Speaker 2>and these men and women are still willing to do

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<v Speaker 2>that for you for an experience that sixty people will see,

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<v Speaker 2>a thousand people will see, two thousand people will see,

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred people will see.

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<v Speaker 1>But this they're still willing to bleed, sweat, cry all

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<v Speaker 1>on that canvas they call a ring.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I love I'd just love professional wrestlers

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<v Speaker 2>and stand up comics so much. I think those are

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<v Speaker 2>the two hardest art forms because you're getting an immediate

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<v Speaker 2>response and they let you know right away whether they're

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<v Speaker 2>connecting with you and there's been trust established or whether

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<v Speaker 2>they just simply do not And it is brutal and

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<v Speaker 2>cold and really hard to succeed through that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>hecklers are like what you know what I mean? It's

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<v Speaker 2>like the wrestler, can you deal with the what? And

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<v Speaker 2>the comic can either deal with the heckler or they

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<v Speaker 2>cannot and you can lose a show real quick. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just I love this. There's so much for what

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<v Speaker 2>they deal with. Yeah, you can speak on it better

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<v Speaker 2>than me.

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<v Speaker 1>No speaking on that.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, we didn't get a chance to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about it last episode. That's why we appreciate you guys

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<v Speaker 3>coming to these Thursday bonus stuff carrying cross you feel like.

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<v Speaker 1>That is that happening with him?

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<v Speaker 3>You feel like they're not connecting with him, or what

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<v Speaker 3>is going on with your boy?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Creative has a story for him that

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<v Speaker 2>can get past Vince.

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<v Speaker 1>I think is what's happened?

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<v Speaker 3>So Vince is burying him or like you think.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's Vince or Creative, but I

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<v Speaker 2>know he can work. I know he can connect with fans.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone knows that because everyone's seen that in NXT. It

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<v Speaker 2>worked at a high level. So yeah, I don't, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know to say that. I'm I'm stoked for him. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I always they had something better for him. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>even when they had a story for him, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>one that you could tell. You could tell it wasn't one.

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<v Speaker 2>They were incredibly behind based on where it was placed

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<v Speaker 2>in the show. So you know, I hope like Shinsek

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<v Speaker 2>came in. I hope or shinsk. Sorry for the extra

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<v Speaker 2>syllable there. When they don't have a story for you,

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<v Speaker 2>it's tough. You're you're just there for a quick win

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<v Speaker 2>or a quick loss, and that's unfortunate. But that's the

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<v Speaker 2>business man, and I wish it wasn't that way, and

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<v Speaker 2>i'd like to I'd like to think, Hey, everyone deserves

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<v Speaker 2>a story. They're there, they've earned it, got it. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that simple, man. It's hard to get ideas

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<v Speaker 2>through from the room that they're conceptualized in to television

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<v Speaker 2>that week. It's very very difficult. There's there's your boss,

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<v Speaker 2>who's the head of creative or not head of creative,

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<v Speaker 2>but head of your writer's room that has to sign

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<v Speaker 2>off on it and say, yeah, this will be a

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<v Speaker 2>part of the episode we bring to TV. Then when

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<v Speaker 2>you get to TV, there's producers former wrestlers that help

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<v Speaker 2>build the matches and help tell the stories as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and they may have opinions on it. And then there's

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<v Speaker 2>the the table side I call the table side where

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<v Speaker 2>like the director, the co director, the head writer, and

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<v Speaker 2>Vince sid and then they have their say.

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<v Speaker 1>And to get through all that unscathed, it's borderline impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>I did it with the Jeff Hardy thing, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was the only story ever that got through because for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever reason, they just got behind Jeff and this idea

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<v Speaker 2>behind him, so they left us alone. But otherwise, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like pulling teeth, dude. It was so hard

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<v Speaker 2>to get someone to believe in an idea when they

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<v Speaker 2>don't get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I really like kring Cross. I know you

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<v Speaker 3>love kring Cross, so we're hoping that he gets more

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<v Speaker 3>than you think. Thirty second match with AJ Styles where

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<v Speaker 3>he has to lose, so hopefully.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, what are they doing with AJ Styles?

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<v Speaker 1>He just wrestled Seth Rollins for the freaking Heavyweight Championship

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<v Speaker 1>and then no story.

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<v Speaker 3>Same with La Knight took on hit row buying himself

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't be more over the second he came out, the

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<v Speaker 3>second they heard his music the site, the crowd was

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<v Speaker 3>just loving it. And like he did the thing where

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<v Speaker 3>he he licks his index finger and goes hell a

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<v Speaker 3>Night points for each syllable. Dude, He's coming up with

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<v Speaker 3>great things. I also like his move set, like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what they're called. I don't know what these

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<v Speaker 3>moves are called, but it's kind of like a it

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<v Speaker 3>looks like a stone Colt stunner, but he lays down

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<v Speaker 3>with you as he kind of pulls.

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<v Speaker 1>You face plants you. Such a cool thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, big La Knight fan, I'm I don't know why

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<v Speaker 3>they're not giving him more stuff. He's super over and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why they're not Why why Caring Cross

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<v Speaker 3>isn't just over in general with everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>But whatever, Well, Jeff, we didn't get to a single

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<v Speaker 2>thing that we planned on talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the beauty of what I do want to say

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<v Speaker 1>that podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say Collision maybe quickly becoming my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>television show for wrestling. I love the opening. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think I was gonna like it. They've stayed consistent with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the way they talk to camera and then

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<v Speaker 2>start the show now and we got to see him

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<v Speaker 2>punk Samoa Joe and that match was awesome, long away

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<v Speaker 2>and took a whooping and he was bleeding for real

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<v Speaker 2>out of his mouth too. He took a whooping and

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<v Speaker 2>his promo was dead money.

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<v Speaker 1>Punks money.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked it outside of the ring, like where the

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<v Speaker 2>people are. Oh, you didn't dig get into it. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>get into it in our next episode.

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<v Speaker 1>He is. I like that promo.

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<v Speaker 3>I like him and whatever, but like God, he's not

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<v Speaker 3>as good on the mic as he thinks he is.

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<v Speaker 3>He thinks he's real.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like, I'll give you that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you that, Like he thinks he's the best

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<v Speaker 2>that's ever spoken in a mic and lets you know that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I still like the promo. I just liked the

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<v Speaker 2>style of it. He never stepped in the ring until

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<v Speaker 2>he wrestled.

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<v Speaker 3>The only name I want to hear tonight is Owen Hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell you talking about Canada?

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<v Speaker 3>Pandering your little I thought you weren't the pan or you're.

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<v Speaker 1>The punk guy. You're not punk. I only want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear owen Hart's.

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<v Speaker 2>Name, but it is though owen Hart tournaments some latitude,

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<v Speaker 2>but they never even gave some latitude.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ, I love you, Thank you for listening. Everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you all next week. We're out peace.

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