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Speaker 1: Mmm, Hello again everybody, and welcome to Behind the Bastards,

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Speaker 1: the show where we tell you everything you don't know

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Speaker 1: about the very worst people in all of history. Now

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Speaker 1: on this show, I read a story about someone terrible

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Speaker 1: to a guest who is coming in cold and this

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Speaker 1: week my guest is Blake Wexler, stand up comedian. You

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Speaker 1: just had an album drop called Stuffed Boy. I got

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Speaker 1: Stuffed Boy. You nailed this stuff Boy nailed it. Excellent, excellent.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing today? I'm good man, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me. Yeah, I love this idea. It's so cool. Well,

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Speaker 1: you don't know who we're talking about today. Um, does

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Speaker 1: the name Rodrigo do Terte mean anything to you? It

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Speaker 1: does not? Actually, Okay, yeah, this is good, fantastic. I

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Speaker 1: just took a sip of something that's not derito, so

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to give them a free ad. But

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Speaker 1: you did you see me wolf down a significant chunk

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Speaker 1: liquefied it with your mouth. I'm fired up and I'm

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Speaker 1: ready to get into this, so let us start an

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Speaker 1: episode that I'm I'm right now calling Rodrigo du Terte,

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Speaker 1: the mayor of murder Town, this is a part one.

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Speaker 1: He's a politician. Then oh yes, yes, oh is that true?

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Speaker 1: Very successful politician, excellent title. Currently the President of the Philippines. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So early on in his presidency, Donald Trump congratulated Rodrigo Duterte,

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Speaker 1: President of the Philippines, for doing a quote, unbelievable job

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Speaker 1: on the drug problem. In February of two thousand eighteen,

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Speaker 1: a senior administration official said this to the website Axios.

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Speaker 1: Quote he Trump often jokes about killing drug dealers. He'll say,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Chinese and Filipinos don't have a drug problem,

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Speaker 1: they just killed them. Interestingly enough, large parts of both

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Speaker 1: of those statements are accurate. It would be fair to

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Speaker 1: call Dutertes drug war in the Philippines unbelievable. In the

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Speaker 1: last two years, one hundred and eighteen thousand, two hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty seven drug users or dealers have been arrested,

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Speaker 1: and one point three million drug users have turned themselves

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Speaker 1: into the authorities. More than twenty thousand people, many of

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Speaker 1: them children, have been killed. Virtually all of them were murdered,

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Speaker 1: often by mask in on motorcycles. This carnage was all

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Speaker 1: explicitly promised to the people of the Philippines when they

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Speaker 1: voted for Rodrigo Duterte. He's been fairly open about his

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Speaker 1: desire to murder drug addicts, mostly users of shabu or methamphetamine.

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Speaker 1: In September of two thousand and sixteen, President Arte said this,

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Speaker 1: if Germany had Hitler, the Philippines would have and then

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Speaker 1: he pointed at himself and continued, Hitler massacred three million Jews.

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Speaker 1: There's three million drug addicts there are. I'd be happy

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Speaker 1: to slaughter them. So that's who we're talking about today.

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Speaker 1: Guy who became president promising to kill three percent of

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Speaker 1: the country, and so far he's kept his promise. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the guy will deliver on a promise. Now, I think

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Speaker 1: he had promised to have killed a lot more by

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Speaker 1: this point, so you could argue that he's I mean,

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Speaker 1: every politician they've been to a little bit. He promised

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Speaker 1: something like sixty thousand and six months or whatever, and

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Speaker 1: he hasn't made that much. But how do you make

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Speaker 1: up for that, Like, you know, like we need more

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Speaker 1: masked men. Well, we ran out of masks, so we

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Speaker 1: can't do Have you seen the mask shortage lately? It's

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Speaker 1: there's just nothing left on the shelves. People stop using drugs. Now,

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Speaker 1: we just have to kill regular people. We're just murdering people,

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Speaker 1: which they are, they are. They also are killing petty criminals,

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Speaker 1: pickpockets and stuff are also getting shot dead by by

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Speaker 1: murder squads, like petty criminals and that like they're passive

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Speaker 1: aggressive and like they like you interpreted that sentence differently

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Speaker 1: than it usually is. Just major criminals who are really

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Speaker 1: really passive aggressive. No, no, no, that's not what's happened. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's fair. They're just murdering poor people. Oh that's bad then, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: it's it's really terrible. So President dotterte Is drug war

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Speaker 1: in the Philippines is now the greatest mass slaughter of

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Speaker 1: civilians in Asia since the camer Rouge in Cambodia. But

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Speaker 1: accidental due to their insane and patently idiotic social experiments.

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Speaker 1: What's happening the Philippines is entirely intentional, directed by a

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Speaker 1: single man. So how did a man like Rodrigo do

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Speaker 1: Tarte come to be and how did Filipino democracy allow

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Speaker 1: I'm very ready here's a quick Uh. Is Manny Pacio

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Speaker 1: in the Philippines. Yeah, he's coming to the story. He's

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Speaker 1: I mean he doesn't play a big role in this,

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Speaker 1: gets worse and worse press over and over. Yet he's

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Speaker 1: he supports a murderer all right anyway, Yeah, just wondering murderer. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: don't you dare take the mass away. Don't undercut this

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Speaker 1: man's accomplishments. He earned that title. He did, Yes he did, Yes,

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Speaker 1: yes he did, and yes he can have That was

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Speaker 1: just shot in the streets. That was his campaign slogan,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Yes, yes we can shoot pickpockets. Yes

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Speaker 1: we can accidentally gun down children off of motorcycle. Back

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Speaker 1: because it's hard to hit drug addicts when you're shooting

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Speaker 1: at him from a motorcycle. It is, yeah it is. Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: accidents are going to happen. You miss a hundred of

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Speaker 1: the shots that you don't take. That's a really good

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Speaker 1: I've been saying it for years in regards to that issue.

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Speaker 1: I think American police could adopt that as a motto too.

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Speaker 1: They definitely could, especially when they're well, I mean, we

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Speaker 1: the that's outside of the point the police firing at

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Speaker 1: a trader Joe's. But oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. You

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Speaker 1: do get a lot of cases like that in in

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Speaker 1: and they're just kind of firing into crowds and stuff

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Speaker 1: a lot of the time. Do they have a cool name? Um? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: actually they do. I figured they'd have to write yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: we'll get into that. There is a cool name. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: for sure. They even have like a patch and stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty sweet. Um. All right, So let's get in

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Speaker 1: some history so we can understand sort of the context

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Speaker 1: that Dot came to power, and so Spain was the

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Speaker 1: Spanish domination nonetheless spread across the island chain, and for

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Speaker 1: prove to be a decidedly mixed bag, but that's coming

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Speaker 1: So it looked like, Okay, we didn't just surrender Manillas.

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Speaker 1: Like when your kids you just bang your swords together.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're fighting with fake swords. That by the way,

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Speaker 1: So there were other conditions to the surrender, no Filipino

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Speaker 1: The Treaty of Paris, which ended the Spanish American War,

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Speaker 1: colonial oppressor. Land on top of them. In February, Aguinaldo

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Speaker 1: Army proved profoundly ill suited to guerrilla warfare, which is

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened. Aguinaldo was captured in March of

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Speaker 1: nineteen o one. Now at that point things degenerated into

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Speaker 1: severe ugliness. General Franklin Bell forced three thousand Filipino civilians

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Speaker 1: American garrison on an island called Samar. The U. S.

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Speaker 1: Army responded by massacring every man above the age of ten,

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Speaker 1: never heard the phrase, oh I saw this eleven year

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Speaker 1: But this this sounds a heart eleven, like you get

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Speaker 1: were fourteen usually, I guess, but still seems a little

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Speaker 1: bit harsh. Um the average age of retirement. By the way, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that's a version of justice. It really is a

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Speaker 1: land reform funds. The landholders lawyers defeated the valid claims

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Speaker 1: of peasants who could afford no lawyers, and exploited the

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Speaker 1: complexity of US style court procedures to delay adverse judgments

426
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Speaker 1: for a decade or more. So, basically, they handed the

427
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Speaker 1: Philippines essentially the same sort of political system the US has,

428
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Speaker 1: but the Philippines did not have one of the things

429
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Speaker 1: that we have as a buffer against the very rich,

430
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Speaker 1: at least we used to have, was a very large

431
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Speaker 1: middle class. And so these people could get in court

432
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Speaker 1: and could make their cases hurt, and you know, it's

433
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Speaker 1: still stacked against them, but they had more power. Yeah,

434
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Speaker 1: it wasn't just very poor people and then very rich people,

435
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Speaker 1: which is what the Philippines inherited. So the problems that

436
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Speaker 1: are becoming more obvious of our system now in a

437
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Speaker 1: time of increasing inequality in the United States, where started

438
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Speaker 1: to tear apart the Filipino national unity you know, in

439
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Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties. So that's essentially what's happened. Yeah, it

440
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: was a fast forward version of America. Yeah yeah, yeah,

441
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Speaker 1: Now they've passed us like that's future. They skipped right

442
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Speaker 1: to the end. Right, We're going to get to the

443
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: rest of Marcos term and what Rodrigo dou Tarte gets

444
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Speaker 1: up to during that period of time and then his

445
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: election as mayor of a city where he will. He'll

446
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Speaker 1: murder people, that's what he does, right, But first it's

447
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Speaker 1: something that won't murder you. And we're back. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about Rodrigo do Tarte and uh, well, actually we're talking

449
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Speaker 1: about Ferdinand Marcos, who just became president of the Philippines,

450
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about that and what do Tarte

451
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Speaker 1: his life was like. In the narrative of this podcast,

452
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Speaker 1: we're not breaking news, he's not. No. No. If this

453
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Speaker 1: is news to you, you should read a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Why is this the first thing that you listened to

455
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Speaker 1: after coming out of your comma? Oh my god, shit?

456
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Speaker 1: What else? A dictator in the Philippines from going back

457
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Speaker 1: to sleep? When I fell asleep in nineteen the economy

458
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Speaker 1: was on fire. So by the time marcos Is third

459
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Speaker 1: term comes to an end, the Philippines is riddled with both,

460
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Speaker 1: you know, increasing economic problems and also a lot more

461
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Speaker 1: protesting and a lot of unrest. Many people in the

462
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 1: Philippines wanted to become a U S state rather than

463
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Speaker 1: chart and independent course, because they kind of had that right.

464
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Speaker 1: They were like, you do your thing for a while,

465
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Speaker 1: but like there will be ways you could potentially be

466
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Speaker 1: a state if you wanted to, and so there were

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Speaker 1: a lot of people who were like, well, I mean,

468
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Speaker 1: they look at them, they got all the money in nukes,

469
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Speaker 1: we should let's just be part of that. And then

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Speaker 1: there were a lot of people being like, no, let's

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Speaker 1: do our own thing. Marcos, being a nationalist, decides he

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Speaker 1: wants to take over and take more direct power over

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Speaker 1: the country. So he engineers a constitutional convention, which included

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Speaker 1: a lot of reforms and was meant to transition the

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Speaker 1: country away from U S style democracy and towards a

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Speaker 1: different system with like a prime minister that was supposed

477
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Speaker 1: to fit better and you know, have less of the inequalities.

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Speaker 1: The major sticking point came down to the fact that

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Speaker 1: there had to be an interim period between these two constitutions,

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Speaker 1: and during this interim period, the head of State, Marcos

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Speaker 1: would occupy the offices of president and Prime ministers simultane viously.

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Speaker 1: So there was a debate over how long this interim

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Speaker 1: period was going to be. Most people you would say, okay,

484
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Speaker 1: maybe a couple of days, while we like, you know

485
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Speaker 1: this thing, he wanted it to be indefinitely long. And

486
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Speaker 1: see why he would want you, I might want that,

487
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Speaker 1: So he instituted a scheme that sounds kind of like

488
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Speaker 1: an Info Wars conspiracy theory. I'm gonna quote again from

489
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Speaker 1: the Rise and Fall of fer nand Marcos. One by one,

490
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Speaker 1: the delegates to the convention were summoned by Intelligence chief

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Speaker 1: General ver, who reviewed with them their various failures to

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Speaker 1: pay taxes, occasions on which their security guards had killed

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Speaker 1: people under dubious circumstances, and other misdeeds which, according to

494
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Speaker 1: the General, the judicial system would of course have to

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Speaker 1: confront unless the delegate saw fit to serve their nation

496
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Speaker 1: by voting appropriately on the duration of the interim period.

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Speaker 1: The cream of the national political elite proved extraordinarily vulnerable

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Speaker 1: to personal pressures and frequently valid accusations of felony. So

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Speaker 1: basically everybody in power was so corrupt that when Marcos

500
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Speaker 1: was like, I'll investigate you just a little bit if

501
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Speaker 1: you don't vote with this, they were like, oh god, oh,

502
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Speaker 1: there is a lot to find where all the boys

503
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Speaker 1: are buried. All you need is a little bit and

504
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: our whole career will come crashing down. Yeah, And that

505
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: was apparently everybody in Congress. So, I mean, we laugh,

506
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's just politics. So so Marcos got their

507
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: longer interim period, and during that period, Marcus's government carried

508
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Speaker 1: out a false flag attack on itself by shooting up

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Speaker 1: the Minister of Defenses empty Mercedes bins. This was announced

510
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Speaker 1: as a communist assassination attempt. The government also blew up

511
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Speaker 1: several power pylons around Manila and blame this as well

512
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Speaker 1: on the Commies. They used the terror attacks that the

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Speaker 1: government itself had carried out to justify implementing martial law

514
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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy two. So this is the second time

515
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Speaker 1: in our story martial law has been declared in the Philippines.

516
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Speaker 1: They're kind of getting used to it at this point.

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Speaker 1: It's a great kind of law. If you're going to

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Speaker 1: have a law, right it be Marshal. Of course, I've

519
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Speaker 1: always said that, yeah, yeah, no. I went to law

520
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Speaker 1: school and I yea with an emphasis on Marshall. And

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Speaker 1: it hasn't really come up yet. I've really been out

522
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Speaker 1: of work for quite sometimes. See what I'm imagining when

523
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: I think of how that could be positive is just

524
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Speaker 1: the instructor from the karate Kit, just him enforcing all

525
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: of the laws, like which would legitimately be a better

526
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: system than we have, or like the retail chain. Is

527
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: that's their law, where there's just a martials martial law,

528
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: just just throw clothes on the ground and people. I

529
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Speaker 1: think no one else would say exactly. I guess that's

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Speaker 1: a positive spin on it. That might be worse. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I mean Marshal's law, Like if it's just law by

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Speaker 1: the most discounted, you know, that might be what we

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00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 1: have right now. Boy, I should go to Marshal's. I

534
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: need a torn yoga. I need a mug with the

535
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Speaker 1: handle broken off, partially open to pack of chips. Marshals, Marshals,

536
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: we have it. Probably there's no inventory system whatsoever. There's

537
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Speaker 1: no way to know what we have come in here

538
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: and checking it out, but we do have shelves with

539
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: things on them. Marshal's really taking some hits. Yeah, good,

540
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: it's about time or the t J Max lobby. Yeah,

541
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Speaker 1: so yeah, Marcos declares martial law, justifying that they've got

542
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Speaker 1: to fight the communists, even though there were only about

543
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Speaker 1: eight hundred communist insurgents in the entire Philippines at that point.

544
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Speaker 1: But you know, you ever, you're gonna let the facts

545
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Speaker 1: get in the middle of a good martial lawby so

546
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: around this time, do Tarte had finished college in law school.

547
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Speaker 1: His bar exam was delayed because of the military takeover

548
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: of the country, which good reason to the lay at test.

549
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: Rodrigo actually wound up missing his graduation ceremony for a

550
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Speaker 1: completely different reason. He had ambushed and shot one of

551
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Speaker 1: his fellow students to teach him a lesson. Uh. Well,

552
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: the guy had mocked him for being from the South,

553
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: and so do te had ambushed him and shot him,

554
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: I think several times. But the guy did survive. So

555
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: that is an institution of higher learning. That is how

556
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: you teach a lot. Alright, we'll let you be a lawyer,

557
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: but you don't get to come to graduation because you

558
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: shot somebody. Fine, yeah, that's a fair punished rules. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Um so Marcos ruled into the late nineteen eighties. Well,

560
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: the CIA had backed his rivals at first. They eventually

561
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: came around to the old lug and his communist slaughtering ways.

562
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Speaker 1: He and his wife, who stole an estimated ten billion

563
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: dollars from the Philippines, uh enjoyed the strong support of

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Speaker 1: the Reagan administration. The New York Times says that Ronald

565
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: quote genuinely cherished Ferdinand and his wife Amelda. Quote. In

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine, Governor and Miss Reagan visited Manila, where

567
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: Emelda's opulent parties dazzled them from then on. Reagan, impressed

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Speaker 1: by Marcos's exaggerated stories of his exploits as an anti

569
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Speaker 1: Japanese guerrilla, counted him among the world's freedom fighters in

570
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Speaker 1: the struggle against communism. In Reagan's eyes. One of his

571
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: aids mused later Marcos was quote a hero on a

572
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Speaker 1: bubblegum card he had collected as a kid. So amazing. Yeah,

573
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Speaker 1: what kind of deck do those cards come in? By

574
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Speaker 1: the way, the bub will come Oh man, who else

575
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:08,719
Speaker 1: would be on those cars? Like Joseph McCarthy's there, sure, yeah, Hitler, Hitler,

576
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah we can throw him on. That killed some communists,

577
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Speaker 1: that's for sure. A rookie Hitler card repeated where he

578
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: just got his bowl, weapon, his shorts. Right. I wonder

579
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Speaker 1: what a Hitler rookie cards worth these days? Hundreds? Yeah,

580
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Speaker 1: uh so. Yeah. One of the other people who helped

581
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Speaker 1: out Marcos stirring sort of the late eighties when he

582
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Speaker 1: was having increasing trouble over all of the people he

583
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Speaker 1: was He was torturing tens of thousands of people um,

584
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Speaker 1: how many years? Sorry, is this into his indefinite um years? Okay,

585
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Speaker 1: about years? Um? Well, I mean he only had about

586
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Speaker 1: fourteen years of martial law from eight six and during

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Speaker 1: a good chunk of that, one of the people who

588
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Speaker 1: represented him to the United States, who tried to help

589
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Speaker 1: get him additional funds from the government was a little

590
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Speaker 1: fellow you might not called Paul Manafort, and in fact

591
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Speaker 1: saying yeah, one of maniforts employees flew with Marcos when

592
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: he fled the mob that was taking over his palace

593
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: and went to Hawaii to go die. When one of

594
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: Manafort's employees flew with him on that flight, So that

595
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: was that's nice to The Marcus regime proved unpopular if

596
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: they only held on the power through the application of

597
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: brutal martial law. More than people were executed during his

598
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: time in power, and more than thirty four thousand were tortured.

599
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: Victims included student activists like the twenty three year old

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Speaker 1: Lily Hillo, who edited a student newspaper critical of the

601
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Speaker 1: Marcus regime. She was forced to commit suicide by drinking

602
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: myriatic acid. Yeah it's dark, is that suicide? Yeah? Yeah?

603
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: Because she was like she was tortured and assaulted a

604
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: bunch until she right right, yeah, semantics. Yeah. During this

605
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: period of martial law, a new drug introduce in the Philippines.

606
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: We know it as meth amphetamine. Now. Prior to Spanish colonization,

607
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: the Filipino people had had a fairly mild drug culture.

608
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: I think battle nut was one of the big things

609
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: they'd use. I think marijuana was around, but it wasn't

610
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Speaker 1: super common. If you say battle nut three times, it appears,

611
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: so you know that's just the jew Oh, okay, I'm sorry.

612
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: I think what you spit out when you've been chewing

613
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: you're right, okay, Sorry, I'm a square. I don't know. Um. So,

614
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: prior to Spanish yeah, they had a fairly minor drug culture,

615
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: with no evidence of serious addiction to anything. Opium got

616
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: to the Philippines during the Spanish colonial period because the

617
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: East India Company would essentially drop it off during their

618
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: trading um, but the Philippines would not have a real

619
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Speaker 1: drug crisis until meth got its grips on the New Nation.

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Speaker 1: I found one account from a Filipino writer who claims

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Speaker 1: that he first became aware of the drug in nineteen

622
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: eighty one. Quote a neighbor excitedly asked, have you heard

623
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: about the new drug intown called Japanese coke. It was

624
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Speaker 1: called Japanese because the way they smoked it reminded people

625
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: of a Japanese hot pot uh style dish, which they

626
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: called a shabu shabu dish. So meth acquired the local

627
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: name shabu, and by the mid nineteen eighties it had

628
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: grown quite popular among a certain set, although it was

629
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: still fairly expensive at this point. So fernand Marcos was

630
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Speaker 1: forced out of office in nineteen eighty six by the

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Speaker 1: People Power Revolution. The new president, Corazon Aquino, made Rodrigo

632
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Speaker 1: du Tarte the acting vice mayor of Devou City, the

633
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Speaker 1: most populous city on the island of Mendano in the

634
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Speaker 1: third most populous city in the whole Philippines. In nine

635
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Speaker 1: eight he ran for election and one as mayor. Now

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Speaker 1: by this point, Devout City was one of the most

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Speaker 1: violent cities in the Philippines. Doutarte was elected as a

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00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: law and order candidate. He promised to stop street crime,

639
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: combat the use of shabu and other drugs, and he

640
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: was pretty straightaway a strict mayor. He instituted a series

641
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: of pretty harsh laws, including fines for jaywalking, a ten

642
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: pm curfew for all children, a nine pm ban on karaoke,

643
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: a ban on firecrackers, and a massive reduction in speed limits.

644
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: Rodrigo was known to patrol the streets himself on his

645
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: own Harley Davidson motorcycle, observing traffic and looking out for

646
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: rule breakers. So he's a hands on kind of feet

647
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: to the pedal, feet on the ground. And by the way,

648
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: the ten o'clock curfew for children, by the way, it

649
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: was just people four years old and younger. Yeah, no, no, no,

650
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: you're before you're an adult, right, yeah, you're that's yeah.

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Speaker 1: Nine year old adults like to do whatever the hell

652
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: they want. Well, I mean they'd better be getting to

653
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 1: work at the fact probably, right, a factory that builds

654
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: factories for smaller children to work in. And yes, I

655
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: don't actually know if that's a that's a big part

656
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: of the economy. Yeah, we're still just riffing on us

657
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: policy from right. Yeah, So, depending on your attitude towards

658
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: jaywalking in karaoke, that may sound reasonable, And in fact

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00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: I support an earlier curfew on anyone under eighteen. I

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00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: think they should be allowed out of the house from

661
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: like ten am to like two pm and locked indoors

662
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: the rest of the time. That's just that's your platform.

663
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: Harsh but fair, I think it. We can all agree.

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Speaker 1: So yeah. A few years into his merridom, do Tearte

665
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: basically for the first close to a decade he's a

666
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: harsh mayre and institute strict policies against petty crime, but

667
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't really seem to have a huge amount of

668
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: focus on the drug war. On the radar, this becomes

669
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: more of a thing in the mid nineties and especially

670
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: by the late nineties, he really starts to ramp up

671
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: persecution of drug users and drug pushers, and in fact,

672
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 1: a few years into his mayordom in the mid nineties,

673
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: do Tete established what's now known as the Devou Death Squad,

674
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: which exists and existed to murder criminals. Quote. During the

675
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: seven terms of Mayor dou Teterte, the bodies of hundreds

676
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: of street kids and petty criminals, as well as addicts

677
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: and dealers of crystal meth or shabou as it is

678
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: known in the Philippines, were found dumped in devots back streets.

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00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: Often their corpses were discovered with their faces wrapped in

680
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: masking tape, their hands were tied, and handwritten signs were

681
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: hung around their necks addict pusher thief. The people of

682
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: Devout City came to realize that these murders would all

683
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: remain unsolved. So again, it's hard to say exactly when

684
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: the Devout Death Squad became active. UM. By nineteen ninety seven,

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00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: they were tied to around sixty five deaths. By two

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00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: thousand fifteen, they would be tied to well over a

687
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: thousand deaths. UM was that the like their official title, like,

688
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: did he call them the Devout Death everyone called death Squad?

689
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: He would usually call them a vigilante unknown vigilante killers

690
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: is usually how these guys are officially known to He would, yeah,

691
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: and most of these victims were killed. Their signature weapon

692
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 1: was a forty five caliber handgun, which was interestingly enough,

693
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: the forty five a CP handgun the Colton nineteen eleven

694
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: that was used by the U S from like World

695
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: War One, World War Two up until almost the modern day.

696
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: In the eighties is when they switched over that was

697
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: developed for the Philippines because before that they were using

698
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: a smaller bullet and the Filipino warriors were essentially so

699
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: imposing that like they felt like it didn't have enough

700
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: stopping powers. They needed a bigger round to clamp down

701
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: on the insurgency. So the forty five has a real

702
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: significant reputation in the Philippines and it has become now

703
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: the gun of the Mayor's Death Squad in Devout City.

704
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: So interesting little bit of history there. So yeah, Officially,

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00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: the murders committed by the Devout Death Squad were the

706
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: work of unknown vigilante killers, but the actual work was

707
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: often done by off duty police officers at the direct

708
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: urging of maryor Jutete. Several of these killers have now

709
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: come forward to confirm that Tape organize the Devout Death Squad.

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00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: Rodrigo himself denies this sometimes on the TV show he

711
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: hosted while mayor. Also he hosted a television show while

712
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: Mayor called on the Masses, he stated, quote, they say

713
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm the death Squad. True, that is true. So he's

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00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: gone on to deny that again since and basically know

715
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: I was saying, they say that I'm the death Squad,

716
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: and it's true that they say, but I'm not the

717
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: death You have a death squad, have a death death

718
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: squad squad, and he wants to brag about it so

719
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 1: badly too, you know, like, how much does he love

720
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: having a death squad? I mean, who wouldn't want a

721
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: death squad? Yes, I would love a death squad. It

722
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: would be incredible just to handle neighbors, people who drive

723
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: too slow or too fast, mostly mostly those groups. Yeah,

724
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: he uh, this goes without saying, but it's very interesting

725
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: that his hatred for drug addicts and thieves goes way

726
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: beyond his hatred for murdering, Like he loves murder but

727
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: hates which on the crime scale is obviously generally a

728
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: most of us would say, Yeah, it's very interesting, like, no,

729
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: being dead is more noble than wasting the time that

730
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: you're alive by being addicted to And who has rejected

731
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: religion so thoroughly. That's a weirdly like almost fundamentalist religious

732
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: sort of attitude to take towards drug use, which is

733
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: interesting to me, very interesting. I will say, if I

734
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: had a death squad, I know who I would target first.

735
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: And there's so I go running in a coup and

736
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. We're going to have that for

737
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: you in a moment. I'm just getting not my job. Well,

738
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: I like, there's a couple of neighborhoods I like to

739
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: run in Santa Monicchy one of them. The speed limit

740
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood is thirty miles an hour, but people

741
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 1: have put out signs that say, my kids live here,

742
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: don't drive over twenty with that yellow fucking thing. I

743
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: get to make the speed limits just because you've got to.

744
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: That's who I target, trying to make the speed limits.

745
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: Oh that sucks. I know, it's just so obnoxious. What

746
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: a rich person thing too. You don't get to make

747
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: that choice. Anyway, We'll we'll be back not talking about

748
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: people who want to have murdered by death squads. But maybe,

749
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: but but maybe, but maybe. But I can guarantee who

750
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: doesn't use death squads is the people who support this

751
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: podcast with advertising. No death squads are related to the

752
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: operation of this podcast or its sponsors. And we should

753
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: have mentioned that earlier. We should have mentioned that earlier.

754
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,479
Speaker 1: Zero death squads, maybe one eventually. All right, here's here's

755
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: the man's and we're back. We are talking about the

756
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: fact that my producer, Sophie had a seventy year old

757
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: Catholic priest teacher how to use her phone, which from

758
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: the Philippines. From the Philippines is fascinating. She's shaking her head.

759
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: We're not going to correct this, repair your phone even

760
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: more incredible. What a strange thing for priest to know

761
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: how to do this business called you broke it, he

762
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: fixed it and he is capitalized. So obviously the main

763
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: subject of this podcast is a Rodrigo dou Tarte, and

764
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: as we've gotten to this, he's become the mayor and

765
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 1: he's kind of sort of definitely started a death squad.

766
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: So in nine, which is the year that the death

767
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: squad really ramps up it's death squadding, Rodrigo's wife Elizabeth,

768
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: asks for an annulment of their marriage. Now it is

769
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: interesting because you can't get divorced in the Philippines. The

770
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: Philippines is actually one of two nations on the planet.

771
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: The other is the Vatican, where divorce is illegal. So

772
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: again very Catholic. Yes, this will become more remarkable later

773
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: because du Terte, I'll give it to him. He doesn't

774
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: give a funk what people think about him. He's quite

775
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: a fellow. So during this annulment, a clinical psychologist was

776
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: asked to analyze Mayor Rodrigo dou Tarte. She wrote, quote,

777
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: he is suffering from a narcissistic personality disorder with aggressive features. Uh.

778
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: These features included quote his gross indifference in sensitivity and

779
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: self centeredness, his grandiose sense of self and entitlement, his

780
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: manipulative behaviors, his lies, and his deceits, as well as

781
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: his pervasive tendency to demean, humiliate others, and violate their

782
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: rights and feelings. So this is a clinical psychologist analyzing

783
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: the Mayor of devout narcissistic personality disorder, which our regular

784
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: listeners will notice. Alex Jones, who we just did a

785
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: big episode on, was also diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder.

786
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: All your guests probably as well. I think we all

787
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: probably have it. It is. It's probably like Spee of

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00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, California. Yeah right, So some of Mayor do

789
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: Tartas most celebrated moments are clear evidence of all of

790
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: these things, his tendency to de mean, humiliate, and violate

791
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 1: other people's rights. One of his signature efforts as mayor

792
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: was an anti smoking campaign meant to wipe cigarettes off

793
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: the streets. Sounds fine, right, Yeah? Yeah, yeah, cigarettes bad.

794
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: That's probably the end of it, right, Probably nothing, nothing

795
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: ridiculous ever have now, of course not well during this time.

796
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: One of the most popular stories from Mayor do tarts

797
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: reign is that he spotted a tourist smoking outside. He

798
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: confronted the man, and the tourist refused to put out

799
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: his cigarette. So do Tarte quote pulled out a snub

800
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: nosed thirty eight revolver and poked it at the man's crotch.

801
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: He said, I'll give you these choices. I'll shoot your balls,

802
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: sid you to jail, or you eat your cigarette. But

803
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: the tourist is said to have apologized before swallowing the

804
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: cigarette butt. Stories like this, whether or not they're true,

805
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: are part of how rod Rigo earned the nickname do

806
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: Terte Harry, because like Dirty Harry, I like that exactly

807
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: the Philippines obviously we owned them for a long time.

808
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: There's a mix of resentment because we did a lot

809
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: of funked up things to the Philippines, but also really

810
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: deep love of American pop culture and music and stuff

811
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: like that. So people get a Dirty Harry reference. Um, yeah,

812
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: anyway they do. Now. It is worth noting that there's

813
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: some debate over the true nature of this story because

814
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: when questioned about it, do Tarte spokesman said that quote,

815
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: as far as he knew, the mayor had never pointed

816
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: a revolver at anyone, although he did specify a revolver,

817
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: which right, right, that's interesting. But he didn't even say pistol.

818
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: He said a very specific type handgun. It's also worth

819
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: noting and a little bit familiar to our own politics

820
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: that the same night, his spokesman said that this story

821
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: was bullshit. Do Tearte turned up on television to confirm

822
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: the anecdote and add that he had told the tourist,

823
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: I will make both your balls explode. So that's from

824
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: the mayor now president's mouth. He punched it up. He's like, no, no, no,

825
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: no, no no, I didn't just I told him I'm gonna

826
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: blow his balls up if he doesn't eat a cigarette.

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Speaker 1: Let me add some imagery for you. There are a

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Speaker 1: lot of stories like this, according to Fire and Fury

829
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: in the Philippines quote. And then there is the case

830
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: of a man who was caught selling fake land titles

831
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: forced him to eat them in front of TV cameras.

832
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: Reporters remember him instructing the cameraman to zoom in on

833
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: him chewing. So he's a character. You can see why

834
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: this guy got really popular because that's the kind of

835
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: stories people love about a political figure is being like

836
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: he's not just being tough. He's like this tourist came

837
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: in and thinks he can smoke in our city on

838
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: the street and throw at a cigarette. But no, the

839
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: mayor is gonna make him eat it, make him eat it,

840
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 1: and then the other guy eat is like, it's very

841
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: obsessed with making people eat their crimes, and it's not

842
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: that big of a deal. If you sell like a

843
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: stolen pizza, you know, it's like made meat. It's pizza.

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Speaker 1: A pizza thief in Devo City, that's the smart money.

845
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: That is the smart money. In two thousand one, Rodrigo

846
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: Guete got on local television and read out the names

847
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: of five hundred people on his watch list. Cash rewards

848
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: were offered to citizens who could provide information on drug

849
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: labs or dealers. A few days after this, he sat

850
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: down for an interview and was asked how he felt

851
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: about being called the godfather of the Devout Death Squad.

852
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 1: He replied, quote, I don't give a damn. I don't

853
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: give a ship what I should do now is honor

854
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: my commitment to be really truthful and honest about it.

855
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: I would rather see criminals dead than innocent victims die

856
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: being killed senselessly. Now, when he said of those words,

857
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: four of the people on his list had already been murdered.

858
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: Seventeen more died before the article was published. The victims

859
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: were all either drug dealers or mobile phone pickpockets. Four

860
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: were children. In less than three weeks, twenty six people

861
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: on the list had been killed, including quote marketplace vendors,

862
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: construction workers, a housewife, and two members of a leftist

863
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: political party. Now in two thousand three, June Paula, a

864
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: shock jock radio guy in Davao City, made fun of

865
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: Rodrigo's son Paolo for beating up a hotel security guard.

866
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: He repeated persistent rumors that Paulo was addicted himself to

867
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: crystal meth. Uh This Piste Rodrigo du terte off, and

868
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: in September of that year, June Paula was ambushed and

869
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: gunned down in the streets. His murder is officially unsolved,

870
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: although in February of two thousand seventeen, are Touro las

871
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: Kanyes confessed to having been a leading member of the

872
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: Devout Death Squad and claimed under oath that he'd been

873
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: paid twenty thou dollars to murder this guy. So well,

874
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: he's making jobs. He's making jobs exactly. Las Kanyees is

875
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: able to feed his family off of the money he

876
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: got murdering the radio personality for making fun of the

877
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: fact that Rodrigo's son beat up a guy at a hotel. Amazing, amazing,

878
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: He's he's quite the man. Yeah, um so. In Rodrigo's

879
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: last year as mayor, he was nominated for the World

880
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: Mayor Award, something that apparently exists, which is the opposite

881
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: of local government, which is what a mayor is. The

882
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: executive of World Mayor Award the worst. Yeah, I'm the

883
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: best mayor in the world. Are you talking about? I

884
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: don't even I maybe like twice in my life I

885
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: have known the mayor of wherever it is I happen

886
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: to live. Yeah. It's hard. Yeah, I mean the only

887
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: reason I knew it for a while in l A

888
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: is because in the fucking elevators you've got the mayor's

889
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: name on like the little like the thing, and so

890
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, it's the worst when it's the previous mayor.

891
00:46:50,239 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 1: It's like, good God is the ship. It doesn't work, boy. Yeah.

892
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: So he was nominated for the World may Award. He

893
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 1: turned down the nomination, saying of his time in office,

894
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: I did it not for my own glory, but because

895
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: that was what the people expected me to do. So

896
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: that's that some humility right there. But the World Murder

897
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: Award he happily accepted. And one he earned that World

898
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: Murder Award. And it's an objective thing. Yeah, of course. Um.

899
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: It was all but a foregone conclusion that Rodrigo dou

900
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: Tarte would run for President of the Philippines in two

901
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen. Eight months before he announced his candidacy, he

902
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: did an interview with Esquire Philippines. In it, he claimed

903
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: to have first killed a man when he was seventeen

904
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: by maybe stabbing him to death in a drunken beach brawl,

905
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: but maybe not, maybe not because he was drunk. He

906
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: self admitted he was drunk when he probably stabbed again death.

907
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah uh, he did, add I have never in my

908
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: life killed an innocent person. So he was just saying,

909
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: like anyone I got into a drunken beach bro with

910
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: has coming, I'll tell you that much. Who fights at

911
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: the beach, you know, the tired how president. So from

912
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: two fifteen, the Devout Death Squad killed more than fourteen

913
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: hundred people by some estimates, including roughly one hundred and

914
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: thirty children. Other estimates will say just like a thousand

915
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: eleven hundred. It's unclear the exact number, but somewhere between

916
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: a thousand and fourteen hundred's probably pretty fair. For Also

917
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: a pad on the back to us for stopping the

918
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: children age bit that we've been doing throughout. It's the

919
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: amount of self discipline I've had the exercise to not

920
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: keep that going is a lot. It is one of

921
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: those things when you read old books that gives you

922
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: a real insight into how different things were. Was like

923
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: what they included a child because like in Germany hundreds

924
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 1: it was like you're twelve year old enough to work,

925
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: get a job? Yeah, or if they're talking about like

926
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: a woman from like you know, like back in that time,

927
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: it was again and she was eventually married at the

928
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: age of thirteen when yeah, she was out to pasture.

929
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: But then real spinster, fourteen years old, spinster, she's got

930
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: another what for at most? Oh boy, history is just

931
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: a pile of nightmares wrapped up in a pile ship.

932
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Las Kanye is the hitman who

933
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: later confessed to being one of the devout death squads leaders.

934
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: Says that his extra murdering money came from the combined

935
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: wages of ten to twelve ghost employees, which are fake

936
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: government employees who existed just as money funnels for the

937
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: Mayor's murder team. The salaries for countless ghost workers had

938
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: been pulled into the Mayor's intelligence fund. What's head paid

939
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: for all of the murders. So this is in case

940
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: you were wondering fiscally, how does this death squad work out?

941
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: There's a lot of data. Was very responsible. It was

942
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: very fiscally responsible death squad. Right, they've got receipts, which

943
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 1: is critical with a death squad, which is rare. This

944
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: is what people got onto the Nazis for not enough receipts.

945
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: And now the Nazis were great at receipts. I'm sure

946
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: they were diligent. They were really really good at receipts.

947
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: So Las Kanye's claimed to have been paid between four

948
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: hundred and two thousand dollars per execution, depending on the

949
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: status of the target. It's got to be a bummer

950
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: if you like you and your friend get hit and

951
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: like he's a two thousand your I know, I know

952
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: that would hurt more than the death. I don't think

953
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 1: my ego could take that. No, No, you just don't

954
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 1: want to even ask, right, Les Kanye has also received

955
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: a two thousand dollar monthly allowance that went on top

956
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 1: of his police salary. The money was paid by Sunny Buenaventura,

957
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 1: the mayor's bodyguard. Let's Kanye's claims quote do Tartes office

958
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: supplied everything cars, guns, ammo, food and money. His hitman

959
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: were a mix of former Communist Party n P, a

960
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: assassin's that's along with well, no, actually a dotterte is

961
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: kind of a leftist. Oh I'm sorry, I U confusing

962
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: with for the other guy at the previous never mind, Yeah,

963
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: you know it's it's it is a little bit like

964
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: and it's it's not even fair to call him a leftist.

965
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: He definitely has come to power as a socialist, but

966
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: he's also more of a do Tertist than anything. Like.

967
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 1: He's tough to classify who he is, right, but yeah,

968
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: his hitman were a mix of former Communist Party assassins

969
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: long with police officers and of course, run of the

970
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: mill contract killers. Here's another quote from Fire and Fury.

971
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: In the Philippines, the former n p A killers targeted

972
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: glue sniffers and alleged petty thieves, while the police and

973
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: their contractors went after bigger fish, kidnappers and drug lords.

974
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: As Kanye Is also confirmed the use of the Loud

975
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: Quarry as an execution ground, and when questions said he

976
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: could point to burial sites. These included those of an

977
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: entire family killed with the silence to twenty two caliber pistol,

978
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 1: a suspected kidnapper, his Muslim convert wife who was seven

979
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: months pregnant, their four year old son, her seventy year

980
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: old father, an elderly male relative, and the family made

981
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: having abducted them from a neighboring town. The Devout death

982
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: squad held them for hours in the building inside the

983
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: quarry before their executions. The personal belongings were removed and burned,

984
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: including their wife's koran, he said, adding that the bodies

985
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: were then stripped and buried so their boy was spared No,

986
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: because they I mean they killed the maid in the

987
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: four year which which I means it's a double tragedy

988
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: because that means this family didn't have a boy. Yes,

989
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: so that's what we should take away that that's what

990
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: we should take away from a classic double tragedy situation.

991
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: Oh boy, got you got yourself? Yeah, I didn't expect

992
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 1: this to be so focused on the boy, but well

993
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: you booked the wrong person. That was so les Kanye

994
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: testified about all of this in two thousand seventeen when

995
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: you Tete was actually president. Um it didn't have a

996
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: huge impact on his popularity as president, and it possibly

997
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: that it wouldn't have made any difference at all if

998
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: it had come out during the election itself. Part of

999
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: Rodrigue's appeal was that he's du terte Harry. He's the

1000
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: violent son of a bit She doesn't play by the

1001
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: rules but gets results. His detractors could point to an

1002
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: enormous pile of corpses, but all do Tarte had to

1003
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: say is look at the vow I cleaned up one

1004
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: of the biggest cities in the Philippines. And this is

1005
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: where it gets kind of tricky, because it is true

1006
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: that overall crime has plummeted in de Vous City and

1007
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: across the island of Mendano. This may not be due

1008
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: to Terte. The crime rate rose from eight most of

1009
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: that was during his second term as mayor, and while

1010
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: Devous city has seen massive drops in crime in the

1011
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: last couple of years, it remains the murder capital of

1012
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,479
Speaker 1: the Philippines. It's overall murder rate is fourth in the nation,

1013
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: So Devots by no means the most dangerous city in

1014
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 1: the country. But it certainly is not an oasis of peace.

1015
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: So basically they've traded in less other crime way more murder.

1016
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: That's what you get with Rodrigo do terrte Let's stolen

1017
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: cell phones, more people gunned down on the street. So well,

1018
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: the less people there are, the less crime there exactly,

1019
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: whether they're committing they can't be crimed upon because they're

1020
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: dead people. It's a double victory there, right, that's efficient.

1021
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: So November one, two thousand and fifteen, Rodrigo dou Tarte

1022
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: announced that he was running to be President of the Philippines.

1023
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: He called himself a socialist, but ideology was not really

1024
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: his focus. Dotterte ran as a populist who promised to

1025
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: take out the bad guys and be a tough guy,

1026
00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: badass president to ass I like that tough, fast son

1027
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,439
Speaker 1: of a bitch. I am your last card, he told

1028
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: a group of supporters at a rally. I promise you,

1029
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: I will get down and dirty just to get things done.

1030
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: All of you who are into drugs, you sons of bitches,

1031
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: I will really kill you. I have no patience, I

1032
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: have no middle ground. Either you kill me or I

1033
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: will kill you idiots. So one thing you can say

1034
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: for Rodrigudu Tearte is that he was always remarkably honest

1035
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: with what his reign would bring to the Philippines. He

1036
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: does sound like a drunk person at a bar, like

1037
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: about to get enough fight, Like I'll kill you. Yeah,

1038
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: you kill me first, you idiots, you know, because you

1039
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: don't come up with the most intelligent insult when you're

1040
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 1: in the moment, like about to fight. I'd imagine he's

1041
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: like a drunk guy in a fight with you, but

1042
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: trying to get you to vote for him. Yeah yeah, right,

1043
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: right right. But also he's handing the ballot, the ballot

1044
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: over to you. I'm gonna fucking kill some people. Yeah,

1045
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: vote from here, just right there, if you mark right there. Yeah.

1046
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: While campaigning, he would regularly lament the drug dealing sons

1047
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: of whores who are destroying our children. He promised to

1048
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: make the fish in Manila Bay fat with their flesh.

1049
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: While most politicians in a democratic country run on promises

1050
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: of how they can improve lives and protect people, do

1051
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: Tete offered something else. He may be the only politician

1052
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: to ever say, God will weep if I become president? Amazing. Yeah,

1053
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: he is not a liar. Not a liar, Yeah, no, no,

1054
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Speaker 1: not a liar. He promised to make God cry with

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Speaker 1: the amount of corps He promised to fill the morgues

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Speaker 1: like that's bold, promised to make his president. There will

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Speaker 1: be so many more corpses and I become president, and

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Speaker 1: by sons of horrors, he meant popes. By the way,

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Speaker 1: when he said that, that's just his word for pope. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's just his word for pope. Yeah. Yeah, Okay. So

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Speaker 1: that's part one. Rodrigu du Terte, the mayor of Murder Town.

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Speaker 1: Part two will of course be Rodrigue du Terte, President

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Speaker 1: of the Kilippines. I'm proud of Yeah. That really all

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Speaker 1: came together, of course, seamlessly. So you want to plug

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Speaker 1: your plug doubles, Oh yeah please? Uh stuffed boy, actually,

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Speaker 1: um is my newest album on iTunes. Uh, my first

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Speaker 1: album is up there to the Blake album. And then

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Speaker 1: there's another album I released with a comedian, Todd Glass,

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Speaker 1: where I saved voicemails from him for twelve years and

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Speaker 1: we released it as an album. It's called twelve Years

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Speaker 1: of Voicemails from Toad Guys to play Baxler so yea

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Speaker 1: of honesty. I know, yeah, I know. And then Blake

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Speaker 1: Baxler dot com. Cool, Blake Wexler dot com. I am

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Speaker 1: Robert Evans. You can find me on Twitter at I right, okay.

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Speaker 1: You can find this podcast on the internet at behind

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Speaker 1: the Bastards dot com. You can find us on Twitter

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Speaker 1: it's great. All right, Well that'll do it for us

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Speaker 1: for now. We're gonna get into part two about Rodrigo

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Speaker 1: do tear te on the day, so please tune back

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Speaker 1: you know, at the kickboxing gym, boxing and kicking and

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Speaker 1: whatever it is. I'm gonna it's over. The episode is

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Speaker 1: over now and I yeah bye. I love about h