WEBVTT - Can anger be a good thing?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the house Stuff Works homepage. Hey, and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast. Or Chuck, how you doing? This is

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you should know? I should say, Uh, that's Chuck Bryant.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Josh Clark as usual. I think by now you

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<v Speaker 1>people know, right, I answer us. If not, they just

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<v Speaker 1>stumbled upon us. They're like, you are these exactly? And

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<v Speaker 1>we just lost him right there, so everybody else it's

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<v Speaker 1>us Chuck. Do you remember watching The Incredible Hulk as well?

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say as a kid. It ran

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<v Speaker 1>from eighty two, so you're what like twenty five maybe thirty? No, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that was right in my wheelhouse. Yeah. I just came

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<v Speaker 1>in on the tail end, but every I had a

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<v Speaker 1>significant impact. I love that show. So yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 1>what Bill Bixby slash Lou Ferrigno sharing the title role duties. Right. Well, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Bixby played Bruce Banner and Lou Ferrigno was the Hulk, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was kind of a big guy, but not

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<v Speaker 1>hulk like. You know. I think they had to use

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<v Speaker 1>certain camera angles and shots and make him a pear

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<v Speaker 1>even bigger. And of course, since I'm nine years old,

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<v Speaker 1>I I remember Bill Bixby from the Courtship of Eddie's Father,

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<v Speaker 1>which was before that. Sorry, go ahead, okay, so well, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>you remember like oftentimes I don't think it was every episode,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, Bruce Banner when somebody was pushing him around

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<v Speaker 1>or something. I remember when I think at the in

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<v Speaker 1>the intro, he he would be hitchhiking or something and

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<v Speaker 1>he was picked up by somebody who mistreated him. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I could be making I make up memories a lot, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, in most episodes he would say something like,

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<v Speaker 1>please don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm angry, and then inevitably this is some jerk made

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<v Speaker 1>him angry and then you know, get ripped and turned

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<v Speaker 1>green and just beat the tar out of him, right right.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite part actually he would always turn away as

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<v Speaker 1>if he's trying to contain himself, and then with his

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<v Speaker 1>head back around, he'd had those green eyes. Yes, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He never bit his knuckles though, I've always found that

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<v Speaker 1>that helps to kind of keep things, you know, locked in.

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<v Speaker 1>He should have tried that. It would have been a

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<v Speaker 1>totally different show had he actually tried that. I think right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>actually I bring up The Incredible Hulk, not because I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to reminisce although that was pleasant Chuck Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to use it as a segway. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to segue into is that it is

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<v Speaker 1>entirely possible that the Incredible Hulk, Bruce Banner was a

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<v Speaker 1>self actualized human being except for like throwing cars and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in touch with his anger and tried to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it down, but eventually it came out and ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>he would go back to normal. And the point of

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<v Speaker 1>the point is of this a sin I in intro um,

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<v Speaker 1>is that anger can be beneficial. We we tend to

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<v Speaker 1>think that anger is a just a bad thing, that

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<v Speaker 1>there's only negative repercussion, so that it's harmful. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>as a matter of fact, there was a think some

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<v Speaker 1>survey that I read UM that I found twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>percent of people, when asked about their own anger, they

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<v Speaker 1>said that they thought it was a bad thing because

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<v Speaker 1>it was useless and harmful. That's not necessarily true, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they said inappropriate to which I thought was inappropriate. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I call anger inappropriate. I just I think it's completely

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate many times. Well, I think I think part of

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is, and this is just me positing here,

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<v Speaker 1>we live in a society that's that's has lots of

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<v Speaker 1>expectations on gentility. We're supposed to get along, go along

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<v Speaker 1>and all that, and so anger doesn't really have much

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<v Speaker 1>of a place that in a in a society like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Um so, I think we've kind of a lot of us,

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<v Speaker 1>including myself, have have lost our ability to express ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>through anger. Right. You know what Aristotle said? I love

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<v Speaker 1>this quote. Let's hear Aristotle said this. The famous philosopher,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, not Aristotle Jones, who as how do you

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<v Speaker 1>know Aristotle Jones? We'll talk about that later. The famous

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<v Speaker 1>Aristotle said this, The man who was angry at the

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<v Speaker 1>right things and with the right people, and further as

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<v Speaker 1>he ought when he ought, and as long as he

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<v Speaker 1>ought is praised. So basically, he's saying that you can

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<v Speaker 1>be angry, but if if you're angry at the right

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<v Speaker 1>time and you handle it in the right way, then

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<v Speaker 1>you are to be patted on the back essentially right,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was right on the money if you asked me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did a little research, um and found uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a great article on the site called how

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<v Speaker 1>anger Works. And um, I'm starting to notice a pattern here,

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<v Speaker 1>like all the great articles on the site. The byoline

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<v Speaker 1>says Molly Edmonds. Have you noticed that? I thought you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say yourself, No, I wouldn't do that even if

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it. Yes, Molly, who is a great writer

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<v Speaker 1>and a dear friend and has her own podcast, Yeah stuff, mom,

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<v Speaker 1>never told you with Christen Conger another great writer here. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and we should probably stop all the plug in right

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<v Speaker 1>and get to the anger. Right. You're angry at Molly

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<v Speaker 1>because she's a better writer than you. That is not true, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>stop this please? Um okay, so what what? There's basically

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<v Speaker 1>three reason why people get angry, right, Uh, and one

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<v Speaker 1>of them is to correct someone else's bad behavior. When

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<v Speaker 1>you get angry, you're all of a sudden kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bursting forth with with energy. You're kind of pushing energy

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<v Speaker 1>from yourself onto somebody else, or at the very least

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<v Speaker 1>creating a startle response in them. Uh. And that's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good way of teaching somebody that they don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to do that to you. Again, sure, I find that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of distasteful behavior. Using untoward yes my favorite word

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<v Speaker 1>right now? Um uh that that that's one reason people

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<v Speaker 1>get angry, or one reason or one way people use anger.

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<v Speaker 1>Another UM is to demonstrate power, which is really again

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<v Speaker 1>off putting. Not big fans of two of these three reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like getting whoever can shout the loudest, or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get the most irked and and and irritated winds.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually that's the case sometimes, especially again in our

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<v Speaker 1>genteel society. The third reason anger exists, I think um

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<v Speaker 1>is to address interpersonal conflict, right, Like, you're upset at

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<v Speaker 1>something you've done, No, you're upset with something someone else did,

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<v Speaker 1>and rather than just let it pass by, which will

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<v Speaker 1>give you the opportunity to stew on it indefinitely and

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<v Speaker 1>arguably and the relationship you are getting, you're using anger,

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<v Speaker 1>And this is not You shouldn't confuse this, this aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of anger with you know, coming into somebody's office, slamming

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<v Speaker 1>the door and like telling letting them have it. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it's kind of a form of it. An unproductive form.

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<v Speaker 1>This would more be like recognizing your angry and saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta do something about this or else I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be friends with this person. So actually that

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<v Speaker 1>use of anger is UM, it's actually a kind gesture

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<v Speaker 1>because you're saying, I'm willing to confront you even though

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be uncomfortable for me including you, UM, because

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<v Speaker 1>I value our relationship. So those are reasons why you

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<v Speaker 1>might demonstrate anger. Yes, Well I found an interesting study.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a little dated it from but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton area, but it's still valid. Uh. Someone did a

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<v Speaker 1>women's anger study and interestingly they found that, um, five

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<v Speaker 1>out of the five women they surveyed, the three most

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<v Speaker 1>common roots to a woman's anger, which ties in nicely

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<v Speaker 1>with yours, is powerlessness, injustice and the irresponsibility of others.

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<v Speaker 1>So that kind of makes sense from what you just said. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I also read that women tend to become angered. There's

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<v Speaker 1>actually something called anger triggers, right, and they're actually age,

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<v Speaker 1>gender and culture specific. Often times there they're stimuli that

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<v Speaker 1>that trigger our anger. Uh. And women this is not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the case across the board, but women tend

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<v Speaker 1>to UM have find anger triggers in affronts by people

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<v Speaker 1>that they're close to, family, friends, that kind of thing. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't you can't make a woman angry on average, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a stranger. The exact opposites the case with men.

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<v Speaker 1>Men have a lot more patients with maybe um the

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<v Speaker 1>family and friends. But like a stranger will just send

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<v Speaker 1>him off the rail traffic. Oh yeah, I hate strangers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who who likes them? That's not true nobody, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I find that that's actually the case with me. I

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<v Speaker 1>would get extremely angry at someone I don't know, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big injustice Scott injustices really make me angry

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<v Speaker 1>people that don't think the rules apply to them. Like

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<v Speaker 1>let's say I'm sitting in traffic and we have the

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<v Speaker 1>the commuter lanes here in Atlanta, the carpool lane, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see people single writers whizzing by me in the

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<v Speaker 1>carpool lane, and it just it furies knock them off

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<v Speaker 1>the road. Now because I'd have to get in the

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<v Speaker 1>carpool lane. Oh and you wouldn't do that, well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'd get caught. Plus also, you would have no

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<v Speaker 1>right to be angry at somebody else. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>that is. That's reason. Uh So basically, when when we

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<v Speaker 1>are when our anger is triggered by by whatever it is, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>we have two things going on. Two it just in

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<v Speaker 1>our brains. Start wrestling in like thirty like Greco Roman wrestling.

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<v Speaker 1>Right winner take off pretty much possibly with Shanks. I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't determined that yet. UM. But the frontal lobe,

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<v Speaker 1>which is responsible for reason, starts getting into it with

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<v Speaker 1>the amygdala, which is responsible for emotion and all. This

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling match usually lasts about two seconds, it is um,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of the time the frontal lobe wins. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you know that? I didn't, but it kind of I

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<v Speaker 1>get that, yeah, because think about it, like we'd all

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<v Speaker 1>be walking around like half cock powdered kegs if the

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<v Speaker 1>amygdala one. You know, have you ever known anyone that

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<v Speaker 1>was like that, that was really angry and would fight

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<v Speaker 1>people and just made you nervous being around them. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I I would say his name because I still

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<v Speaker 1>did this sixth grade. I still to this day hate

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<v Speaker 1>this kid's guts UM, and I would love to say

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<v Speaker 1>his name so that it's somebody could hear it and

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<v Speaker 1>go punch him in the stomach. Um, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry will bleep it out and beep beep exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>is yeah? So um? But yeah, this kid he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was short and he was really mad that he

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<v Speaker 1>was short. He bore a striking resemblance to um jever

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<v Speaker 1>see uh was that Captain Caveman and Son cartoon. He

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<v Speaker 1>bore a resemblance to the Sun really just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>very you know, cavemanesque, right. And he was just such

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<v Speaker 1>a little manipulative bully he was. He was mockiavellian actually,

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<v Speaker 1>and he used to have us get into um fights

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<v Speaker 1>and he would turn the whole class against he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was an angry little kid and you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>he was all amigdala really apparently. Yeah, I knew a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like that when I lived in Arizona. That was

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<v Speaker 1>just I was uncomfortable being around him because he would

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<v Speaker 1>go to a bar or someplace and just invite trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>It was written all over his face. It was his energy,

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<v Speaker 1>and he scared me. I didn't like being around the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to stay away from people. No, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>pacifist man, I'm a lover. I don't need that. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you are Chuck not very angry. Well, I have

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<v Speaker 1>some issues here and there with anger, but like Aristotle says,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to channel in the right direction, exactly and

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<v Speaker 1>at the right times, right right. So there was actually

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who is a perfect case study in UM

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<v Speaker 1>you know how the brain processes anger. And his name

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<v Speaker 1>was Phineas Gage, and he was this affable railroad man.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a railroad worker and in forty eight he

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<v Speaker 1>took a rod through I think his right eye owl uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and it went into his brain and he actually they

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they ever got it out all

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<v Speaker 1>the way, but they managed to um keep him alive

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<v Speaker 1>and he survived and continue to live. But he had

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<v Speaker 1>frontal lobe damage. The reason part his amigea was perfectly fine.

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<v Speaker 1>So we went from this affable, friendly guy to a

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<v Speaker 1>jerk for the rest of his life. Ye yeah, Phineas Gauge.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got some more gender related anger thing if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about that. It's interesting women and women are.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing we ever get together, how different we are.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm often awed at that. Uh. They found when they

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<v Speaker 1>studied women in anger UM and men that men scored

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<v Speaker 1>higher on physical aggression go figure, passive aggression and experiences

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<v Speaker 1>of impulsively dealing with their anger, and men usually had

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<v Speaker 1>more or more often had a revenge motive and scored

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<v Speaker 1>higher in coercing people. And women they found were found

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<v Speaker 1>to be angried, longer, more resentful, and less likely to

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<v Speaker 1>express their anger. But they also found interestingly that women

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<v Speaker 1>um used indirect aggression. They were more likely to write

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<v Speaker 1>someone off that they knew and like, I'm never going

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<v Speaker 1>to speak to her again. Women do that, according to

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<v Speaker 1>the study, and it kind of makes sense. I've known

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<v Speaker 1>some women that have written off people in their life,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know many men that have ever said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm never going to speak to him again.

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<v Speaker 1>I have. I was about to say, I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very feminine in that way, because it's not the only way, buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not well. I guess we should probably get to

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<v Speaker 1>the last part of this clunker. What's that you see?

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Barber study. Okay, so these two psychiatrists, psychologists shrinks

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<v Speaker 1>um put a bunch of college students together in a room,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they gave him They said, you are

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<v Speaker 1>to remain neutral and this this other group, or we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make angry. So they had them Um. They had

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<v Speaker 1>them right about I think extensively some past experience they

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<v Speaker 1>had that made them angry. Um. And then they took

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<v Speaker 1>both groups and had them analyze a series of essays

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<v Speaker 1>about whether or not college students are any good at

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<v Speaker 1>saving or what you know, we're good with finances? And

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<v Speaker 1>some were good essays, some were terrible. Um. And they

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<v Speaker 1>basically the distinction was the good essays, the the the

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<v Speaker 1>the arguments that had basis were um, they cited old

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<v Speaker 1>studies or you know, facts or they they backed up

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<v Speaker 1>their argument, whereas the bad studies didn't. Right, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were well written. And they found that the kids who

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<v Speaker 1>were angry, um were had better analytical skills. They were

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<v Speaker 1>they scored consistently higher in picking out the good arguments

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<v Speaker 1>from the bad. Right. Was were they shifting through the

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<v Speaker 1>muck and focusing on, you know, just the parts that

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<v Speaker 1>they needed to? Was that what was going on there?

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<v Speaker 1>Just jumped from a to see each other. We'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>me about B Well, I was trying to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about the anyway. Yes, that that's exactly right. I think

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<v Speaker 1>let's just strangle this horse. It's almost dead. Um. They

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<v Speaker 1>found that well, they concluded, uh, it wasn't proven, but

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<v Speaker 1>they concluded that when you're angry, um, you're you're very

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<v Speaker 1>focused and so you're you're kind of you're you're cutting

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<v Speaker 1>away the fat as it were. So and if you're neutral, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you're more likely to be taken in by flowery language

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. You're angry, you're focused. The other

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<v Speaker 1>theory that they had was when you're angry, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to punish somebody, So you're probably going to punish, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who's not doing is good a job, or some

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who's not quite up to snuff. And in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have been a poorly argued essay. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. Well, I think the secret is to

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<v Speaker 1>channel your anger into positivity. There's nothing wrong with being angry,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know that there are studies that that show

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<v Speaker 1>that if you suppress anger, you're more likely to die

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<v Speaker 1>then if you don't hold onto those feelings. So suppressing

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<v Speaker 1>your anger is not a good move. Anyone who's ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen the Angry Dead episode of The Simpsons can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you it is life threatening, true, but blowing up at

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<v Speaker 1>someone and going off on someone and being physically aggressive

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<v Speaker 1>is also not good. So it's all about doing it

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<v Speaker 1>in the right way. Sure, good advice, Chuck. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't reign on your parade there with no no,

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<v Speaker 1>you totally didn't get did great, buddy? Thanks? Yeah, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I would want you to be angry. You wouldn't like

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<v Speaker 1>me when I'm angry. You would rain blows upon me

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Well, let's just get to listener mail time.

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<v Speaker 1>it time for listener mail you today? John H. I

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<v Speaker 1>have just a single listener mail. This is from this

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<v Speaker 1>must be significant. Yeah, this is from Adam Asher. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where Idam's from, but he says cheers,

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<v Speaker 1>So he may be from the UK. He may be

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<v Speaker 1>one of those guys that says cheers. He's an anglophile. Yeah, perhaps,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh he says this. This is about the c I

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<v Speaker 1>a LSD episode quick recap. Uh. Yeah, the CIA used

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<v Speaker 1>to um dose heroin addicts um John's and um you

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<v Speaker 1>know black inmates at prisons with LSD to find out

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<v Speaker 1>if they could use it as a truth serum or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. Perfect And the name of the program

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<v Speaker 1>was MK Ultra. Yes it was. That was the Umbrella Project, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I found this very interesting, uh, he says. I

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<v Speaker 1>just had a comment on that episode. A few years back,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe ten or twelve years ago, there was a video

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<v Speaker 1>game made called mk Ultra. Uh. In it, you were

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<v Speaker 1>a weird costumed a man with a gun for an arm,

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<v Speaker 1>and you went through and violently killed everything in your midst.

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<v Speaker 1>The world you were in was very interesting, different called ors,

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<v Speaker 1>the walls moved, weird sounds. There was a talking dog.

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<v Speaker 1>It's your sidekick, and uh he said that when we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the MK Ultra program, he you know, made

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<v Speaker 1>him think his video game. The thing is, he can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember it and doesn't have any further details. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really interested to know if there was if that was

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the game, and if they were there

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<v Speaker 1>was a video game that literally poked fun at the

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<v Speaker 1>CIA for doing this kind of thing, or if that

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<v Speaker 1>guy was on LSD. So if anyone out there knows

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<v Speaker 1>of this game and has any more details, I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to hear about it and uh get a copy of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to play this game. Yeah, well that's to

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, Adam Asher. Sure, if you want to share

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