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Speaker 1: While I was building our business in Brooklyn, it was

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Speaker 2: Dead Ass because when you come from the floor once, honey,

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Speaker 2: we know how they make their money over there are

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: It all started with real talk, unfiltered, honest and straight

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Speaker 1: from the heart. Since then, we've gone on to become

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Speaker 1: Webby Award winning podcasters in New York Times bestselling authors.

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Speaker 2: Dead Ass was more than a podcast for us. It

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Speaker 2: was about our growth, a place where we could be vulnerable, be.

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Speaker 4: Wrong, of course, but most apportly be us.

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Speaker 2: But as we know, life keeps evolving and so do

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Speaker 2: we and through it all, one thing has never changed.

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Speaker 2: This because we got a lot to talk about story times.

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Speaker 4: So Dolo's gonna laugh at this.

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Speaker 1: I remember when yes this seas I turned thirty twenty

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Speaker 1: the same time, Dolo had just bought his seven series

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Speaker 1: prototype in twenty ten started to gain popularity around twenty

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of money coming in, but I

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Speaker 1: the minute you start to better yourself, no matter what

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Speaker 2: I tried to make it purposefully affordable for our local folks.

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Speaker 4: And I ain't gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 1: It pissed me the fuck off and it made it

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Speaker 2: In that return. All right, karaoke time. What you got

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Speaker 2: for us today, baby? Anything I've heard you? I heard

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Speaker 1: Bana banam damp damp damp, damn damn dannam damn damn.

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Speaker 4: Money money money, money, money, money, money, money.

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Speaker 2: Maney, that's all we got. I don't even know what

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Speaker 2: goes past that. Do you know what it is? That's

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Speaker 2: what I say. You know what my favorite money song was.

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Speaker 2: This takes me back to when I used to work

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Speaker 2: in Mac Cosmetics. Shout out to Mac Cosmetics.

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Speaker 4: We had the same I know what it is because

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Speaker 2: Because it was one of those things. It was my

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Speaker 4: My a us was always high at the same time.

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Speaker 5: Ready one two, I need dollars, dollars is what I need.

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Speaker 5: Every time I came to pick ship with me money

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Speaker 2: That needs to go into my permanent playlist in rotation.

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Speaker 4: All right, we back, all right, get.

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Speaker 2: Your battle close by. Hey, hey, all right, now talk

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Speaker 4: All right? Right in my face here, man, in my face.

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Speaker 2: Just another term of endearment.

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Speaker 4: When you have a fatty.

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Speaker 4: Wow the fatty and me sees the fatty in you.

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Speaker 7: It's nowhere closed. Everybody knows what was happening with OJ

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Speaker 1: This is what I think, and this is what people

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Speaker 4: I think in this Diddy case, everybody loses.

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Speaker 1: There's no winner, you know what I'm saying, Like, no

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Speaker 4: It was nineteen ninety four. I was ten years old.

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Speaker 4: It was like it felt like it was bigger than OJ.

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Speaker 4: We were fighting. It was you see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 9: This is coming off with Rodney and King too, right,

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Speaker 9: When now OJ comes up, you got a black man

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Speaker 4: Gonna let her finish. I was gonna let you finished first.

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Speaker 3: They didn't have to care who he was. They knew

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Speaker 4: He was he was proper. He's proper.

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Speaker 1: this time, people have to understand this. I believe it

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Speaker 4: It's like, what is this? Yeah, I think you know,

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Speaker 9: You had to be captivated because how how that case

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Speaker 4: Yeah, at that moment, you're, of course you're going to

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Speaker 9: Yes, yes, right, So that that does make sense, Like

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Speaker 9: So it was all so yeah, y'all did convince me?

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Speaker 9: I changed my It's not as big as Diddy's case

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Speaker 9: is not as as OJ.

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Speaker 7: But even in addition to that, the case is it

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Speaker 3: You could look at this case, and I don't really care.

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Speaker 1: You know what, that's a good point people, murder of

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Speaker 3: Like that's the biggest thing that's driving conversation.

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Speaker 1: No one here is an attorney, but I have spoken

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Speaker 4: This is what they say.

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Speaker 1: A Rico case is proving that you used your business

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Speaker 1: Now I'm not an expert, right, but think about it.

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Speaker 1: What they're trying to prove is that Diddy, being a billionaire,

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Speaker 4: Right. And this is another thing, is that well Cassie

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Speaker 1: Hiring sex workers is illegal, So if you hired sex

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Speaker 1: That's what they're trying to put on Diddy. Whether Cassie

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Speaker 4: It's what resources did. Did he use to do all

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Speaker 4: of this? Baby oil? And he used baby oil?

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Speaker 9: And this is not a joke, man, People, people's families

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Speaker 4: God, I'm not gonna lie whenever k comes up the shower. Now, No,

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Speaker 4: did he but to bring it back home. The fact

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Speaker 1: Know what a rico is and don't know how to

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Speaker 1: even look at it composed to saying did he kill

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Speaker 4: He is the villain. Like there's nobody saying, I hope

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Speaker 4: did he get His defense is saying he's a villain, right,

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Speaker 4: Even the defense is saying like, oh, he did this

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Speaker 2: There's a consent portion of it, like with the whole trial,

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Speaker 2: whereas you don't get consent, you're just no consent to

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Speaker 4: No, you don't need no consent, right, So.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds good what you got for number two truths?

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Speaker 6: The president, the current president, is planning to pardon reality

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Speaker 6: TV stars Todd and Julie Christly, your gay.

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Speaker 2: Husband didn't no best? You said the gay Apparently they

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Speaker 6: Because twenty twenty two they were convicted of tax evasion

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Speaker 6: Todd was sentenced to twelve years in prison. His wife,

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Speaker 6: Julie was sentenced to seven years in prison. And since then, Todd,

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Speaker 6: I think there was a story that she paid a

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Speaker 6: Trump administration has promised to start garnishing wages for millions

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Speaker 6: income based repayment plans for those people who cannot afford

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Speaker 4: So op or no opp? Got an op?

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Speaker 1: This is what they do like, this is not new

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Speaker 1: to me. This is what what Trump does. Like he

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Speaker 1: finds his friends, He finds his people. You got money,

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Speaker 1: I got money. You're willing to pay for whatever I'm

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Speaker 1: about to give you. Okay, you pay me now? Now

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Speaker 1: you own me, so I'll do something for you. It's

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Speaker 1: called qui pro quote. That's that's politics.

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Speaker 3: But this is that's exactly I have.

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Speaker 1: No this is you know what I'm saying. And there's

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Speaker 1: doing something first friend, he's helping out. He's gonna want

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Speaker 1: something in return later on, and we're going to see

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Speaker 4: Then, how don't do crime?

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Speaker 3: Right about to see the same thing happened in New York?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, qui for sure, that's why I know they

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Speaker 3: I don't do crime, right You don't you don't.

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Speaker 2: We hustling back with y'all. Clearly this is out of

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Speaker 2: my tax racket conversation. I just because it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: They learned a lot.

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Speaker 4: How did they do?

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Speaker 2: I just want to I don't know how they went

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Speaker 4: How do how do you thirty six million?

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Speaker 2: How do you mastermind the heists like this? You know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, you use so much brain power

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Speaker 2: to be fraudulent, how about you use the brain power

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Speaker 2: to do something that actually makes you worthy of making

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Speaker 4: I feel you thirty six million in personal loans. Here's

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Speaker 4: a crazy part.

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Speaker 1: They'll pardon them and then they'll still people sitting in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for Dina Dine bagg of Weed doing twenty years bro.

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Speaker 6: And their I guess their defense was that they were

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Speaker 4: It was this is what happens.

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Speaker 1: They were waving the flag to all the conservatives to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: come save us. Yes, it's no different than Jim or said,

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Speaker 1: God rest is soul. He passed away. But remember when

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Speaker 1: said that he was targeted because he's a rich white billionaire. No,

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Speaker 1: you targeted because you was driving crazy and you're freaking

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Speaker 1: swerving and you was driving drunk. But that was his defense,

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Speaker 1: that I'm a rich white billionaire. And what it did

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Speaker 1: they were able to do their things, say hey, they

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think you're sending the message that

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Speaker 6: really illegal. Because the way that they defrauded the banks

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Speaker 6: out of money that they took out these personal loans

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Speaker 4: Out more loans to then pay the old ones, and they.

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Speaker 6: Use the personal loans to fund their like luxurious lifestyle,

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Speaker 2: So the fact is that they just they were getting approved,

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Speaker 4: We can't get approved in your average like.

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Speaker 2: I six three sixty four a house.

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Speaker 3: I can't give you three sixty I gotta give it

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Speaker 3: to my man's over there.

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Speaker 4: Right, that's literally what it is. I can't Josh.

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Speaker 2: Private jets.

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Speaker 4: I can't. I gotta give Chris forty million.

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Speaker 3: I gotta pay for gas on the jets. You're not

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Speaker 4: That's crazy, It's so funny. That's the American way. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't surprise me. It just not surprised me at all.

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Speaker 4: It absolutely is.

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Speaker 1: But and I know because we talked about this on

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Speaker 1: the last show about segue, right, so we're going to

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Speaker 4: That's the end of opping.

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Speaker 1: Noah, So a young lady, whoever is the one I'm

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Speaker 1: speak to, A young lady who said, you didn't know

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Speaker 4: We're doing this for you, all right, but this is

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Speaker 4: actually welcome. Perfect though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, about understanding business and how so many of the

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Speaker 1: people around us don't understand business, so when you start

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Speaker 1: if you're doing something that's not ethical.

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Speaker 4: And that's just not the case.

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Speaker 6: it seems as though rich people are only doing what's

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Speaker 6: They're not concerned with keeping people educated or taken care of.

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Speaker 6: They're not concerned with anything except making more money for

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Speaker 6: the people who already have loads and loads of fucking money.

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Speaker 6: And I really don't think that people know how much

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Speaker 6: live in a false meritocracy. What they're doing is making

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Speaker 6: we could all have money if we were just as good,

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Speaker 6: if we were just as smart, if we were just

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Speaker 6: as ambitious, When that is not the case. Most billionaires

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Speaker 6: their grandparents, great grandparents. Most billionaires did not work for

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Speaker 6: what they have, and most billionaires they learned how to

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Speaker 2: We think white millionaires because I can think of two

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Speaker 2: Tyler Ferry is Rihanna billionaire satisfy? Right, Yeah, so a

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Speaker 2: lot of people are building their billionaire status, whereas to

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Speaker 2: your point, Triple, a lot of the billionaires that we

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, just based on the history of this country,

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Speaker 1: knew that that's what it was. With that being said, though,

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Speaker 1: like Tristan, like Tripple said, there have been a few

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Speaker 1: those people we as a community often demonize, right, And

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Speaker 1: All of the people that I helped, even though I

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Speaker 4: Bad about me.

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Speaker 2: Because it's weird behavior in my opinion to count somebody

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Speaker 2: there and you charge each kids fifty dollars. There's somebody

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Speaker 2: I think, have all been guilty of that, Like damn,

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Speaker 2: they're walking away with a lot of money, not even

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Speaker 2: thinking about what it took to get there, your time,

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Speaker 2: so I think when people make the comment about triple

443
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Speaker 2: saying that, people feel like, you know, we all have

444
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: pretty much the opportunity to be able to make money

445
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 2: in this capacity. Yes, and no, you know, sometimes it

446
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: doesn't come from people passing things down, but you are

447
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 2: able to build your your wealth or build through opportunities

448
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 2: because you have that savvy or that know how or

449
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 2: that brain power to do it.

450
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Speaker 4: But my thing is who decides what's ethical? Right?

451
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Speaker 1: Like for example, when I first started my training business,

452
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Speaker 1: the first thing everyone told me was it'll never work

453
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Speaker 1: because no one will pay for training. And I said, well,

454
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Speaker 1: you don't have to charge people six hundred dollars an

455
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Speaker 1: hour to train.

456
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Speaker 4: You can create. It will never work. To vitill never work.

457
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Speaker 4: It never works.

458
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Speaker 1: So when I started, I was charging one hundred and

459
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Speaker 1: fifty dollars a month. And then when I grew to

460
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Speaker 1: having four hundred kids, people started counting my pockets. It

461
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Speaker 1: was like he charging people to train. Wait a minute,

462
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Speaker 1: y'all first said it wouldn't work. Then because it worked,

463
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Speaker 1: then it became unethical. And that's my question is is

464
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Speaker 1: who decides what's ethical? Because I'm gonna be honest. Broke

465
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Speaker 1: people can't tell me what's ethical when it comes to

466
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Speaker 1: business because you don't understand business.

467
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Speaker 4: That may sound arrogant, but I'm sorry.

468
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Speaker 1: When I was doing Prototype, most of the money I

469
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Speaker 1: got from Prototype went back to Prototype.

470
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Speaker 4: I even paid for kids to go to college. I

471
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 4: paid for kids to have sneakers, I paid for kids.

472
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Speaker 2: To go like I did all of the children.

473
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Speaker 4: Kids say, we children, but it was broke.

474
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Speaker 1: People telling me that me charging people the same money

475
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Speaker 1: I used to help them was unethical.

476
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Speaker 4: So I need to know who decides what.

477
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Speaker 6: But I think too, I think somebody pointed out a

478
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Speaker 6: really good definition of capitalism for me for me on

479
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 6: another podcast, they were saying that capitalism is determined by

480
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 6: who owns the means of production. So just because you

481
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Speaker 6: have a business where you are giving it a service

482
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Speaker 6: and you're making money from it, that doesn't make you

483
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Speaker 6: like a big bad capitalist. That's unethical a person who

484
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Speaker 6: owns the means of production. So you are training people

485
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Speaker 6: who want to become professional athletes, You're training kids from

486
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Speaker 6: the community so that they can have a skill that

487
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Speaker 6: can get them better opportunities. Now, the person who is

488
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Speaker 6: can be unethical in that ecosystem is the owner of

489
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Speaker 6: the football team, because they have control over what the

490
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Speaker 6: players can do, what they can say, when they can play,

491
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Speaker 6: when they can't, how they can make money. They kind

492
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Speaker 6: of own the means of production if the product is football.

493
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Speaker 2: So ultimately deval having a program like that and people

494
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Speaker 2: parents paying into it, really the parents are just making

495
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Speaker 2: an investment in their child. They're not his program wouldn't

496
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Speaker 2: have been the unethical.

497
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Speaker 4: Party.

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Speaker 1: I hear you on that, But I also feel like

499
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Speaker 1: even with the league owners, right, if you create an

500
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Speaker 1: opportunity for young men and women to earn a large

501
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Speaker 1: parts of money, right For example, the NBA people upset

502
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: at NBA owners they make too much money. Yeah, but

503
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Speaker 1: you also have all of these players and coaches, training

504
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: staff who make a lot of money too. So they

505
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: created a platform where everybody can make money. The thing

506
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Speaker 1: to me that becomes unethical is when the person who

507
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: controls that utilizes that to stifle and manipulate to gain

508
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: more money while exploiting those who work underneath them. And

509
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Speaker 1: why I say exploitation is because you can give someone

510
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Speaker 1: five million dollars, but if they're worth fifty you exploit

511
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Speaker 1: it exactly. That to me is that to me is

512
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Speaker 1: where you become greedy or where you've done something unethical.

513
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Speaker 4: Like that.

514
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Speaker 1: This is what bothers me about when people try to

515
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Speaker 1: decide what's ethical or not. If you don't understand business

516
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Speaker 1: and you make claims, for example, what's the young la

517
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Speaker 1: any that.

518
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Speaker 4: Sold my op?

519
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Speaker 2: I was just about to say that as well as

520
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Speaker 2: Brown right. They literally came to mind.

521
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Speaker 1: Don't understand how business works. When you start a business,

522
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: the goal of the business is to scale the businesses.

523
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: When you scale the business, that means that other people

524
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Speaker 1: are doing what you can't do by yourself in a

525
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: larger way so that you can make more money. Once

526
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Speaker 1: you scale the business to size, you then want to

527
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Speaker 1: sell it because you know, business has survived a full generation,

528
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: every business has coming gone.

529
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Speaker 4: That's what it is. Most so the goal most some business,

530
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Speaker 4: but most businesses.

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Speaker 1: The goal of any business, and I learned this in

532
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Speaker 1: business school, but also speaking to a lot of wealthy people,

533
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Speaker 1: is you start a business to sell it and then

534
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Speaker 1: start another business.

535
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Speaker 4: What bothers me is that all of these people.

536
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Speaker 1: Online saying that the rodriguez Is and Tabitha Brown and

537
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Speaker 1: they're unethical because they sold their idea to someone else

538
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: or because they're trying and.

539
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Speaker 4: I'm like, y'all, y'all don't understand, you know what I'm saying.

540
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 4: That's my issue with them.

541
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Speaker 2: So the biggest thing with the whole Mael stories that

542
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 2: there's a contingent of people who believe that the product

543
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: since being sold to Procter and Gamble, the quality of

544
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: the product has changed, and they're people who are complaining

545
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 2: that they're here, has been shedding, breaking, hair loss, all

546
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: of those things. They've been using her product for years,

547
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, the minute P and

548
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: G got it is like everything is wortered down and

549
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 2: has changed. So I think she's battling two things here.

550
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: She's battling that component where people you don't want to

551
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Speaker 2: discount their story because some people legitimately feel like this

552
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: was what happened to them and that's their story. But

553
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: then there's also a contingent of people that don't understand,

554
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: like you said, the scaling and selling of a business business,

555
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 2: you know. And then you think about Tab when it

556
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: comes to Target and her products and the whole DEI situation,

557
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: you know, trying to understand her mindset where she's in

558
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: a conflict. It's like, here, I am in bed with

559
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Speaker 2: Target with this contract that I have through however much timeframe. Yes,

560
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Speaker 2: but then there's people who are like, listen, I'm not

561
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Speaker 2: shopping through Target. I'm not giving them their money. I

562
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: rather go directly to the source and buy from Tabitha Brown.

563
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: Dot what Tab was saying, And people didn't even want

564
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: to listen to the whole message right.

565
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: But then she also talked about how hard it was

566
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Speaker 2: to get black brands into a Target to begin with.

567
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Speaker 2: So she said, if in the event that you do

568
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Speaker 2: still decide to go to Target, be mindful and purposeful

569
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Speaker 2: about purchasing those black owned products, because once they start

570
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 2: seeing a decline in those products being bought, then they're

571
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Speaker 2: going to pull them off the shelves. So it's a

572
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Speaker 2: really hard position, I think for both Monique and tab

573
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Speaker 2: to be in, because it's like you're damned if you

574
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Speaker 2: do and you're damned if you don't.

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Speaker 6: But I think this is why it's important for people.

576
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 6: If you're starting a business and if you know that

577
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Speaker 6: you have the type of power that a person like

578
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Speaker 6: Tabitha Brown does, it is important that you come up

579
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Speaker 6: with your own set.

580
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Speaker 4: Of ethics and practices for your business so that when you.

581
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Speaker 6: Get a big deal like with a Target, that you

582
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 6: can tell them what they're gonna do for you and

583
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Speaker 6: not the other way. Brown absolutely, because the thing with

584
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Speaker 6: Tabitha Brown, she always said that Target owns the line.

585
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 6: It is their line, it has her name on it,

586
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 6: and she is collaborating with them to curate products.

587
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: And she's using her likeness and her selection promote so

588
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: they have.

589
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Speaker 6: And so because she has the power that she has,

590
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Speaker 6: Target needs her. You know what I'm saying that right,

591
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 6: if she had you know, the revenue, the capital to

592
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 6: create her own line and set on her own website,

593
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 6: she could do that. But Target needed her for the

594
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 6: demographic they wanted to bring into the store because she

595
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 6: had the people.

596
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 4: They have the product. She has the people. And so

597
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 4: if if.

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Speaker 6: I think the only thing she could have done in

599
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 6: that situation was to say, this is your dedication to

600
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Speaker 6: DEI for the duration of my.

601
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Speaker 4: Contract.

602
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Speaker 6: And she may have taken the money and said great, amazing,

603
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 6: because most of us would you know what I'm saying,

604
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 6: most of us can't go into an office with our

605
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 6: supervisor and Demanda Race, let alone go into a Target

606
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 6: office with the CEO and demand DEI.

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Speaker 1: That's why I think it's unfair for us to put

608
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: that on tab because she signs a deal and they

609
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: say we'll give y'all for example, I don't know these details,

610
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: so don't quote right say it's four years, we'll give

611
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: you ten million dollars.

612
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 4: You're gonna be the face of this line. Cool as

613
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 4: we do that. Plus, this was part of the DEI

614
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Speaker 4: roll out.

615
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Speaker 1: You will sign that contract they decide that they're gonna

616
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: change their mind two years in. Right, you can't then say, fine,

617
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take your products with my face off of

618
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: your stores and I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 4: It direct to consumer. She can't. Legally, she can't.

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Speaker 1: If she tried to take those same progress to those

621
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Speaker 1: products and do the same except products somewhere else, she's.

622
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Speaker 4: Gonna get sued. She probably has a not compete That's

623
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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So she can't.

624
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: So what she's doing is pretty much saying like, look,

625
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm kind of stuck here, and if y'all still want

626
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: to support products, and I remember her saying that, she said,

627
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Speaker 1: there are products here who are black owned, who have

628
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: a director consumer, and if you're going to boycott, when

629
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Speaker 1: that person puts a link up that says this is

630
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Speaker 1: my director consumer, support it.

631
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Speaker 4: It's not enough to just boycott. You have to boycott

632
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 4: and support.

633
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: And this goes back to understanding business that if a

634
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Speaker 1: lot more people weren't emotional understood business, they would know

635
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: how to help.

636
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 4: Right. For example, I've just read a doctor.

637
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: I've just read a story about the Montgomery bus boycott, right,

638
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: think about this for a second. Do you know the

639
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: Montgomery bus boycott crippled a lot of black bus businesses,

640
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: And this is why black people wanted to ride on

641
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: the same buses as white people. And we couldn't fucked up.

642
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: So we had a point to prove. We wanted to

643
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: prove that our money is more valuable than yours. So

644
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: we boycotted until they let us ride on their buses,

645
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: and then we got back on their buses. What if

646
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: we were to boycotted and just spent all of our

647
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: own money on our own private, black owned bus. You

648
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. There are two parts to economics.

649
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: Boycotting is one, but there's also building. And I think

650
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: sometimes we forget the building aspect because we as Black

651
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: Americans have never been taught how to build businesses.

652
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 4: That's why when we see other people who look like.

653
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: Us build businesses, we say that they're what unethical because

654
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: we've never learned. You know what I'm saying, And that's

655
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: who I think where we are as a community of

656
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: people today.

657
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 4: The people, the.

658
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 1: Black people that have learned to make money, the other

659
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: black people who don't know point at them. And say

660
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: are they devil worshipers? They so they sold they're not ethical,

661
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: and it's like, bro, like, that's not how this works.

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Speaker 1: If you want to survive here on this planet, learn

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Speaker 1: how to use capitalism for your people. That's what I

664
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Speaker 1: ultimately want to do. That's what you want to do.

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Speaker 4: Everybody here talks about that. I haven't had a conversation with.

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Speaker 1: One person here that didn't say, yeah, because I want

667
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Speaker 1: to do this, and then have another idea about people

668
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: who aren't going to ever see this money. You talk

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Speaker 1: about it all the time, about how you plan to

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Speaker 1: do things for young black girls who are trying to

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Speaker 1: get into entertainment and industry writing.

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Speaker 4: Y'all talk about it all the time.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about now the responsibility that we feel

674
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Speaker 2: these one percent or the wealthy have to society. What

675
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: kind of responsibility do they have? So again, using Tyler

676
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Speaker 2: Perry as an example, he is a great example because Tyler,

677
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: with the money that he's made, is literally employing all

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Speaker 2: of us, thousands of people, thousands and thousands of people.

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Speaker 1: He has a program at the facility where young men

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Speaker 1: who are dealing with recidivism who can't find jobs can

681
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,959
Speaker 1: come there and work, learn how to garden, and learn

682
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Speaker 1: how to mechanic.

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Speaker 4: Like he has programs no one ever talks about.

684
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that.

685
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 4: Well, here's about it.

686
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: The internships that he has for kids that are coming

687
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Speaker 2: out of college or in college, those programs. He's just

688
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: even employing people on a crew or set. When I

689
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: film my show, there's a crew of three hundred plus

690
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Speaker 2: people that majority of them look like us block.

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Speaker 4: So what I hear is.

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Speaker 9: Instead of telling people what to do with their money,

693
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Speaker 9: just realize what they do, number one. Just like he's

694
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Speaker 9: actually employing people. And one of those trops is if

695
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Speaker 9: you can't, like I'm canna, I can lead a horse

696
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 9: to water but right, and or you can teach a

697
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 9: man how to fish, or you give him man fish

698
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Speaker 9: to teach him how to fish.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: And I think what Tyler is doing, and what what

701
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Speaker 4: the example is in that?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 4: That what the ethical point in that is give people jobs.

704
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Speaker 4: Don't give people money, right.

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Speaker 9: Like, don't don't give your hood money, don't put up

706
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Speaker 9: buildings in your hood or or rec centers only.

707
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Speaker 4: But it is like opportunity, give people opportunities to make

708
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Speaker 4: their own money. Josh, you know who said that the

709
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Speaker 4: power story for jay Z.

710
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Speaker 2: He did say that.

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Speaker 1: Jay said this two separate times. The first thing he

712
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Speaker 1: said was what he got killed was he was just like,

713
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: people keep asking me why I don't give money back

714
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Speaker 1: to Marcie. They don't need money. They need to change

715
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Speaker 1: your mentality, which is a fucking fact though, Like if

716
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Speaker 1: you give those people who don't understand business money, what happens?

717
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 9: Same thing with reparations come back. They're coming back in

718
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Speaker 9: two weeks broiling.

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Speaker 4: We need to change the we've been.

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Speaker 6: I would I would push back on that to say,

721
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Speaker 6: is jay Z contributing to changing their mentality with what

722
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Speaker 6: he gives to the hood, which is his music.

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Speaker 4: I would say no, I would disagree. We listened to

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Speaker 4: jay z music, not really, So how say something like that?

725
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Speaker 4: Did you say.

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Speaker 3: You cannot say that in front of Brooklyn.

727
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Speaker 4: Now you can't fly?

728
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Speaker 1: You can listen to them lyrics And he's pointing out

729
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Speaker 1: he talked about Dumbo.

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Speaker 4: I forgot the lyrics exactly.

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Speaker 9: He said he could have bought a building in Dumbo

732
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Speaker 9: for two million dollars. Yeah, years ago, in twice twenty something,

733
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Speaker 9: and what is it now? What is it worth today?

734
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Speaker 9: Like twenty million?

735
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Speaker 1: Said I could have bought it, Dumbo, I had every

736
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Speaker 1: V twelve engine. He's literally telling young men and women like, yo,

737
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Speaker 1: I did all of this bullshit and the thing I

738
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Speaker 1: should have he's remember how to do something something?

739
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Speaker 4: Credit? Yeah, how did that? He really is teaching.

740
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Speaker 1: Also, he has bailed out thousands of people who are

741
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Speaker 1: in jail for petty crimes, who have never seen would

742
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 1: have never seen the light of day, and he bailed

743
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Speaker 1: them out without even making it a public thing, because

744
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 1: he also knows if I start telling everybody what I'm doing,

745
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Speaker 1: they're gonna find a way to stop facts.

746
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Speaker 2: To stop you. But then also, you told the line

747
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Speaker 2: between when you're in a position to help people, do

748
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: we make it a public announcement to say, hey, y'all,

749
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 2: I have the resources to help people, versus not helping people.

750
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Speaker 2: And people say, well, you don't ever help nobody?

751
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Speaker 4: Could you could do that for a PR a PR stunt?

752
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Speaker 4: But what's the point. What's the point is their ultimate

753
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 4: goals to help people? Why are we talking about?

754
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Speaker 2: And exactly know how? And I helped regularly, and if

755
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: we were to just be like, hey, we help this

756
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Speaker 2: person today, we helped that person today, we this for

757
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Speaker 2: that person, I know I need some help.

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Speaker 6: But that's a that's a really good point because people

759
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Speaker 6: always say this too about Beyonce. And something I heard

760
00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 6: recently was like, during the LA fires, Beyonce's foundation be Good,

761
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Speaker 6: did a bunch of giving back and they were people

762
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 6: were saying, like in Pasadena, they were kind of the

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Speaker 6: only foundation that was still there after a few months,

764
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Speaker 6: still helping people get back on their feet.

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Speaker 4: And she doesn't, you know, she doesn't say anything.

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Speaker 6: She doesn't have to announce it, you know, she just

767
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Speaker 6: does what she does, and she just gets backlash from us.

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Speaker 4: Same thing with Tyler Perry, I think too.

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Speaker 6: People always find something about Tyler Perry to write that.

770
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Speaker 6: But when he was making stage plays and we was

771
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Speaker 6: buying them on bootleg, everybody was laughing.

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Speaker 4: He and Hahn, he told me about it.

773
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Speaker 6: When he got to a certain level, then it was like, oh,

774
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Speaker 6: Tyler Pierry's exploiting and Tyler peers doing this and that,

775
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Speaker 6: And I mean, Tyler Pierry is telling one story. He's

776
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Speaker 6: telling the story that he knows how to tell. He's

777
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 6: not stopping anybody else from telling another story. He's not

778
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Speaker 6: saying that this is the definitive story of black people,

779
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Speaker 6: and people like watching his shit. I was always he's

780
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Speaker 6: doing something other than he's employing people and giving people

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Speaker 6: help money.

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Speaker 4: He's employing thousands of people. I just need one, just

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Speaker 4: one thing You're we're going to do is shoot her shot.

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Speaker 1: But I want to say this too about Tyler Perran,

785
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: not because he's my my boss, but he does tell

786
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: the same story. But SODA's Ken your barrass Blackish, mixedish, grownish,

787
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Speaker 1: SODA's maral Broca kill. I just happened to love all

788
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: her stories because she tells love stories. But it's the

789
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: same story, like love it girlfriends.

790
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Speaker 4: The same story, not just.

791
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Speaker 2: It's like some people feel you feel like they have

792
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: a type cast because they're always playing the same kind

793
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Speaker 2: of character in the same random story.

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Speaker 4: That's just what it is.

795
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Speaker 2: And if it ain't for you, it ain't for you.

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Speaker 1: We told for the last seven years, we told our

797
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: love story over and over again, different ways, through book,

798
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: through social media, through podcasts, because that was our story.

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Speaker 4: Some people may feel the same way, like or they

800
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 4: keep telling the same story. I even I even her.

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Speaker 1: Saw one comment a guy said marriage is not a business,

802
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Speaker 1: and Deval and Kadeen have made a business out of

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Speaker 1: their marriage, and I said, this person doesn't understand.

804
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 4: I'm gonna argue and go back with them.

805
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: But that's the same person that when we first started

806
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: and was broke telling our story, they loved it. I

807
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: know this person because the person's been following us for

808
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: a minute and they loved the fact that we was

809
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: broke and telling this story.

810
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Speaker 4: And they're telling the real The minute we started ascending.

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Speaker 1: Then it was marriaging the business, which shows me most

812
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: of the time people just don't want to say you'd

813
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Speaker 1: be better than them.

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Speaker 3: You think it's crabbed environmentality.

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Speaker 9: I don't think you could look at anybody and say

816
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 9: something that goes against their agenda without being crabbing a barrel,

817
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 9: Like there's no there's nothing any like for you. For

818
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 9: the example that you just gave with the with the

819
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 9: dude that said when you were broke one thing and

820
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Speaker 9: then when you start making money that completed a different thing.

821
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Speaker 9: That has to be crabbing a baron. That has to

822
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Speaker 9: be a sort of like an introspective of myself and

823
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Speaker 9: it's where I am in relation to where these people.

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Speaker 2: Where these people are absolutely, and that is the comment section,

825
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 2: because I what I can't Understandavalani for example, because I

826
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Speaker 2: can only speak to us. I feel like we've been

827
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: very consistent with who we are and who we've been. Naturally,

828
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: of course, yes, we've grown, We've had avenues and opportunities

829
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Speaker 2: to be able to expand, because the reason we started

830
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: this whole social media thing anyway was to get the

831
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: opportunities to be on camera as actors, and we finally

832
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: reached that point. But we literally have been telling the

833
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: same stories and been the same people and sharing our

834
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: growth and the way we've done things for years. So

835
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: for folks to be like now we don't fuck with

836
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: them no more because they, you know, are doing too

837
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Speaker 2: much or they've changed, it's just like, now we've changed

838
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: for the better. You've been stagnant.

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00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: We have changed, and I agree with you, we have changed.

840
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Speaker 1: And a lot of times people don't want to see

841
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Speaker 1: other people change.

842
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. They like the aspiration of things. But then

843
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 2: when you get to that point when you truly are aspirational,

844
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Speaker 2: then it becomes a faker.

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Speaker 4: It's like not ethical. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: I would switch the mindset because the crabs in a

847
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 6: barrel thing, I understand it, but that it kind of

848
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 6: assumes that only certain people are the crabs, you know

849
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Speaker 6: what I'm saying. Whereas I think that we have a

850
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Speaker 6: culture of exploitation that we've all been socialized to believe

851
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Speaker 6: and somebody has to be exploited in order for something

852
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Speaker 6: to be good, it can we can say the same

853
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 6: thing for billionaires, people that hold their money because they

854
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Speaker 6: don't want anybody else to be upperly mobile because there's

855
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 6: going to be less for them. People just generally have

856
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 6: a scarcity mindset. I think that there's not enough for

857
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 6: everybody to have enough, you know what I'm saying.

858
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Speaker 4: But this is the thing that bothers me.

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Speaker 1: I don't have that mindset I shared with everybody. But

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Speaker 1: then you know what the feedback is, he only put

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Speaker 1: his friends on.

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00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 6: We weren't friends before we started with And that's my point.

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Speaker 1: People would just say anything to make them feel like

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Speaker 1: I wasn't able to do that because I didn't do

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Speaker 1: anything that wasn't unethical, When the bottom line is is

866
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Speaker 1: that you're looking for something to be unethical because you

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Speaker 1: just haven't accomplished what that person has.

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Speaker 4: We went past that. I'm trying to understand, like that's

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Speaker 4: and this is what happens.

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Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying, is why when we talk

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Speaker 1: about being rich and ethical, who decides what's unethical? Because

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Speaker 1: part of the unethical thing is like devalanceading only put

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Speaker 1: their friends on. And I'm like, when did that become

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Speaker 1: an issue? Like the fact that we only put our

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Speaker 1: friends on is an issue?

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00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 9: Now you got way more friends than the three of us. Absolutely, absolutely,

877
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 9: I would say that so that that statement has it's

878
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 9: not your tight whatsoever.

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00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: And I'm not on yet, none of us, all of

880
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: us seriously, and I'm not going to make it seem

881
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: like we don't do well. We do well, but I

882
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: have things in my life that I want to accomplish

883
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: that I haven't accomplished. Yeah, we all out here working

884
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: to do that. We're all out here helping as many

885
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: people as we can, but we're not like broadcasting it

886
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: because that becomes performative.

887
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 4: But when you are gaining, gaining, gaining and you're.

888
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: Not broadcasting how you're helping, people often say that you're unethical.

889
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: Then when you do broadcast, they say you performative. That's

890
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: why when you said you damned do you do if

891
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: you damn if you don't, I've got to a point

892
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: in my life. Now I don't get you, just fuck you,

893
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: just damn, so I might as well go out and

894
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: do it. Listen to how people create narratives. When did

895
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: we do the Essence interviews? Josh arities Okay, it was

896
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: April right when we did the Essence interview when I

897
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: broke down and cried. Did we know that K Show

898
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: was going to be announced?

899
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: No?

900
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: No clue right, K Show gets it out on I

901
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 4: do that interview on Thursday.

902
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: It was the Wednesday, April thirtieth.

903
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 4: I remember we do an interview on a Wednesday. Thursday,

904
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 4: we went to Upfront.

905
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: I went to Upfront upfronts on Thursday, and my mind,

906
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: you the interview already happened.

907
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 4: Go up us on Thursday. Asked me, how does Kadeen

908
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 4: feel about the release? I said, oh, the release is cool.

909
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: They want to wait and find They don't know when

910
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 1: they'll be able to talk about it because we haven't

911
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: been able to talk about it on our press tour.

912
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: We find out that Saturday that they're going to drop

913
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: the release on Monday. The release comes out Monday. Everybody's

914
00:42:55,120 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: excited about ka Essence drops our interview on Tuesday. Comments

915
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: on social media. From that interview on Twitter is Deval

916
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: just wanted to on TikTok Dval just wanted to steal

917
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: a shine from k because her show was.

918
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 2: An announced Right, He's dramatic.

919
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: I was being dramatic, and this is my thing. I'm

920
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: not going to argue with these people. I'm not going

921
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: to go back and forth. Sakari called and was pissed, Like, bro,

922
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: as much as you push Kadeen in the forefront, for

923
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: them to create this narrative that now you're trying to

924
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: take the shine is annoying. But I'm like, Sakari, you

925
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: can't fight that. Like people are going to create their

926
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: own narrative about what they want and and they're gonna

927
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: argue other people. Nah, I've been watching them for years.

928
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: You don't want kay to shine and people arguing with them?

929
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: Like are you gonna laugh at that? Because you know

930
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 2: how false that is. Since we're in the gym in Brooklyn, Matt, to.

931
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 4: Be honest, my whole goal.

932
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: Since we've been in the gym, Matt will tell you,

933
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to make my wife this

934
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: is my exact words, Bigger than Kim K, bigger than Beyonce.

935
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that That's always been my goal. I always felt

936
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 4: share that talent.

937
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 1: So for people to make these assumptions and and create

938
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: this narrative that I just wanted to steal her shine.

939
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: It's proof that people have no clue what they're talking about,

940
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: but will say it with such conviction that other people

941
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: will follow them. And they do the same thing with ethics.

942
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 1: Beyonce is a devil worshiper Tyler Perry and Oprah worship

943
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: the devil. We've been to how many events with Tyler

944
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: and Oprah with a bunch of people. I've seen these

945
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: people do nothing but pray facts.

946
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: Who they're praying to.

947
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: Thank God, you know what, You're right. I don't know

948
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: they praying to personally, but they pray openly to God.

949
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: They thank God for everything. Every time we meet someone

950
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: who's been at that level and they see that we're

951
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: trying to get there, they always say keep God first.

952
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: But then when you hear people talk about it, they're

953
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: not ethical. Beyonce trying to get your daughters, I'm like, wow,

954
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 1: like this is kind of crazy.

955
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 4: The fear, you know, it is exhausted.

956
00:44:59,480 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 2: It is.

957
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

958
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: My favorite two words right now be oh, well, you

959
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: just don't care.

960
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 4: Oh, well you don't care. I don't either.

961
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 6: It's not worth it to care because it's people's personal

962
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 6: like mindset to think that there has to be some

963
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 6: type of exploitation in order for somebody to be doing well.

964
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 6: A lot of times there is. We there is a

965
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 6: culture of exploitation absolutely comes to wealth, and that is true.

966
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 6: And so people are always looking for where's the exploitation

967
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 6: And a lot of times it's just like crazy shit,

968
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 6: and they're not looking for where is the like support,

969
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 6: where are the ethics? You know what I'm saying. They're

970
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 6: not looking for the good. Usually they're looking for the bad.

971
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: Oh, where's the intersection between ethics and hard work?

972
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: Like some people just there is an intersection between ethics

973
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 1: and hard work black people?

974
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 4: And I was that's what I was about to say.

975
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: What she said she said four black people, because this

976
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: is my thing, right especially on this country. In this country,

977
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: we've never had the opportunity for someone to give us

978
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: something and say here, do this exploit these people to

979
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: get more. We've always had to grind and work with people.

980
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: So most the black people I know that if grind

981
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: didn't work with those people, continue to work with those people. Like,

982
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: it's not in our nature to just exploit those because

983
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: we haven't even had the power behind us to exploit anybody.

984
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: That's why to me, it just seems kind of asinine

985
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: for people to be like all.

986
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 4: Of these people who have gotten, they just try to

987
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 4: do it. To Michael Jordan, he would his shoes. Michael

988
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 4: Jordan's said Republicans were sneakers too.

989
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: Guys, do y'all know that Michael Jordan is responsible for

990
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: how many people going to college on his funds? How

991
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: many schools he opened that he never talked about. Lebron

992
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: opened the Eye Promise School, so everyone thought that Lebron

993
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: was the first, but freaking Jalen Rose had an Eye

994
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: Promise School in Detroit seven years before Lebron opened his.

995
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: But no one talks about these things, you know what

996
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And now here it is is on Michael

997
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: Jordan just exploited black people with his sneakers. It's like, guys,

998
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: like that can't be everybody's story. And I just don't

999
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: think that every wealthy person is a person of indignation.

1000
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: That just was just like I'm fucking everybody to get here.

1001
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1002
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: And because we had to work for everything. I think

1003
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: we're more inclined to bring people along with us that

1004
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: looks like us, Like I know several pockets. We're one example,

1005
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: but there's several pockets to people just within like the

1006
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: film industry, where it's just like yo, I'm going to

1007
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: band together with my people so that we can ascend together. Ryan,

1008
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 2: There's so many people who are doing it together because

1009
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 2: we see value in what each person brings to the

1010
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 2: common goal.

1011
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 6: So, you know, and I think more people should have

1012
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 6: the mindset of being involved in a community, whether it's

1013
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 6: your group of friends, whether it's your family, whether it's

1014
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 6: your block. If you are doing something good, if you

1015
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 6: are experiencing success and you can share it with somebody,

1016
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 6: whether it's teaching them how to do the thing you do,

1017
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 6: giving them a little change, if you know they need

1018
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 6: some food, helping somebody take their kids to school one day.

1019
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 6: Community is where you're at. We can't save everybody, you

1020
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. We can do it one community

1021
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 6: at a time. And if what we are doing as

1022
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 6: a group inspire somebody else to try to do it

1023
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 6: in their community, then at some point, all of our

1024
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 6: communities are going to be doing the same thing at

1025
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 6: the same time, and then we'll all come up together.

1026
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 6: But as long as we try to alienate ourselves from

1027
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 6: our our communities by focusing on what somebody else is

1028
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 6: doing and not being inspired by it, we're never gonna

1029
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 6: get anywhere.

1030
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 4: You hear how you just spoke from your heart about

1031
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 4: everything you can do.

1032
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: Say after this whole thing, you go blow up, right,

1033
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 1: you know what they're gonna say about trible Triple used

1034
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: the Valikadeen and she was fucking divided the whole time that.

1035
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: I was going to say that, you.

1036
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 4: Know, whole time.

1037
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 2: That's what he put it on the offering table.

1038
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 6: I'm gonna put on my rich nigga hat when that happens,

1039
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 6: I'm gonna exploit the audience, and I'm gonna write a book. God,

1040
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 6: I was sucking them both best selling best selling.

1041
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 8: Actually oh well, oh well yeah, oh my god.

1042
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: But before we wrap up, I would say, just piggyback

1043
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 2: off from Triples Triples comment about us building community. I

1044
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: want to shout out at t N and Ivy Walk

1045
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 2: Good l A. Every time I see a video from

1046
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: Walk Good l A that et t In or Ivy posts,

1047
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: it just makes me feel like, damn, if I was

1048
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 2: still in l A, that would be my tribe of people.

1049
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 2: You know, we were only in l A for a

1050
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: year and a half and we got robbed of our

1051
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: experience because of COVID and before we moved here. But

1052
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 2: I love to see just like the togivenness and the

1053
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: unity and like the black joy. You know, it's it's

1054
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: families out there. There's men, there's women focused groups like

1055
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: so shout out to what good l at and ivy

1056
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 2: more we for doing that. Y'all are doing some great

1057
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: work and I feel like there are a great example

1058
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: where if we find pockets where we can build community

1059
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 2: and actually not be concerned about what everybody else is doing,

1060
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: but actually like working within, you know, maybe we can

1061
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: get someone real quick.

1062
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 7: Shout out to y'all. Though I know y'all personally and

1063
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 7: y'all don't talk about half that stuff, not even half

1064
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 7: a lot of stuff. Y'all do a lot for a

1065
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 7: lot of people.

1066
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: Thank you for that.

1067
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 7: I've been somewhere divine and I turned was like a

1068
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 7: good human bro Like people don't think this way.

1069
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 3: It's just not natural.

1070
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 7: And to see y'all do it and consistently do it

1071
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 7: and don't y'all don't need no praise for y'all just

1072
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 7: do it out of the kind of say your heart,

1073
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 7: thanks amazing, appreciate.

1074
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

1075
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 4: Man, appreciate Yeah. When you said you know, I thought you.

1076
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: Now, I appreciate that. And I feel like the reason

1077
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: we've been blessed in abundance like this is because we

1078
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 2: have a responsibility.

1079
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, we all do.

1080
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 9: Says too much is given, much is required, and I

1081
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 9: think that's the balance of what ethics is like when

1082
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 9: you have stuff that's, yeah, you have a really big responsibility.

1083
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 2: It's true. I look at some of you know, family

1084
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: member's friends who are, like, you know, very active in

1085
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: the church, big believers in God, and it's just like damn,

1086
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: like you've just been struggling your whole life. But then

1087
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 2: we're here, So I feel like we are the answered

1088
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: prayers of a lot of people around us. And that's

1089
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 2: how I see it. That's what makes me want to

1090
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 2: continue to be giving and be generous. It's the only

1091
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 2: way I know how. You know, my grandmother, my dad's mom,

1092
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 2: Grandma Jrother, she was my girl. I was her favorite.

1093
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: But she was always just kind and I feel like

1094
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 2: when you lead with kindness, that's the only thing that

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00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 2: can come back to you. And I have four boys

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00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: that I hope the world will be kind to because

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00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 2: they come from a lineage of people who are giving

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Speaker 2: and caretakers.

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00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 4: In a sense, that's a fact.

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00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: And also like richness isn't always I mean, Bob Marley said,

1101
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: this is riches isn't wealthy. It isn't just gold and silver,

1102
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: and it's not it's your ability, like we all talked about,

1103
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: to actually connect with another person. You can feel rich

1104
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: walking around not having nothing because anywhere you go you

1105
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 1: feel welcome.

1106
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 4: You've done good in the world.

1107
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: So since you've done good in the world, anywhere you go,

1108
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: they come, eat, come sit down, come chill to me.

1109
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 4: That's how rich I want to be. If you have

1110
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 4: love and abundance, you're rich. Yes, yes, yes that a man.

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00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: As a lady we was at the track meet. She

1112
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: was like, if you just out here no security by yourself,

1113
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm just like someone with my people. We all out

1114
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: here watching our kids. Like I want to be able

1115
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: to go places and give love and show love and

1116
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: people give it back. If I got to come here

1117
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: with my glasses on in security, that don't seem rich

1118
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: to me. You know what I'm saying, that seems very

1119
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: much constrained. You see when you see that, it's like

1120
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: you're in a bubble and you don't feel open.

1121
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 4: That to me isn't richest.

1122
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that the testament to your ethics, as

1123
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 6: I guess leaders of our little team, our little gang

1124
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 6: gang gang.

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00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 7: Is that we are not gang gangco charges, we are

1126
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 7: not gang.

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00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 4: Friends.

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00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 6: I think for me, the testament is that I've never

1129
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 6: asked y'all for anything because I've never had to. Whenever

1130
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 6: y'all move up, you have taken me with you, like

1131
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 6: whenever you grow, I grow. And that's that's That's been

1132
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 6: a huge blessing and it's helped me to grow in

1133
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 6: ways that I have done on my own. You know

1134
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 6: what I'm saying That your help people tell me all

1135
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,479
Speaker 6: the time, I d M de Vow to ask about

1136
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 6: podcasting and he led me to you, like stuff like

1137
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 6: that is huge to me. So I've never had to

1138
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 6: ask you for anything, and that that that is and

1139
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 6: it's and still have grown and that has been amazing.

1140
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 6: And I'm waiting for just the right moments.

1141
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, I need you.

1142
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 4: If I got it.

1143
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: If I got it is y'all because because as much

1144
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 1: as y'all appreciation.

1145
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 4: Bro, that's what Tyler is for us.

1146
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: Like when I be struggling with shit business wise or

1147
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: be like yo, he'll say it too, like I see

1148
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: you building. This is this voice, but I say you're

1149
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: building some other things. You know, you're good financially, And

1150
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you mean. He's like, this requires that,

1151
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: this requires this. Remember the whole tour thing.

1152
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was struggling.

1153
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: He school does this is just a quick story. I

1154
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: was planning the not the last tour, the tour before that,

1155
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: the time, Yes, it was the time I did it.

1156
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: So we had a lot of expenses at the top

1157
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: of the year. So I called him and I was like, yeah, struggle,

1158
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: I don't thk I'm gonna do any more tours. And

1159
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: he was just like why, And I was like, because

1160
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: I had to put all these expenses up and then

1161
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: I had to pay taxes like two weeks later, so

1162
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: it was like I had all of this money coming out,

1163
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: and he was just like, why would you not do

1164
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: all of your tour expenses at the end of the year.

1165
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 4: And I was like, what you mean?

1166
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: He was like, you close out your fiscal year with

1167
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: the tour expenses so you can get that back on

1168
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: your taxes, rather than keeping all of that money paying

1169
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: back to his tax taxes back and then paying for

1170
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: another tour.

1171
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 4: And I was like, you know what I'm saying. And

1172
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 4: then he was just like, understand your film schedule. You

1173
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 4: know you get paid this time.

1174
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: You should start paying for stuff at the same time

1175
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: you're getting paid till you can write that, So write

1176
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: that off beforehand. And I'm like, I didn't. I never

1177
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: had a billionaire to explain to me how to get

1178
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: through maneuver seven figure tax you know what I'm saying.

1179
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 4: But he was able to give it to me. And

1180
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 4: I'm like, Bro, that's the same way y'all say. I

1181
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 4: am for you. That's how he is. And he's never

1182
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 4: asked me for anything.

1183
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 2: And you can do it not fraudulently. Facts, so we

1184
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: can have to get a pardon from oh facts.

1185
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can avoid you can avoid paying high taxes

1186
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: a legal way.

1187
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 4: There have an LLC registered as an escort.

1188
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: When your escort, your tax will automatically go down from

1189
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: forty nine to to about thirty three percent legally legal.

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00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 3: Just to be clear, consult your local cps.

1191
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 4: Are smart. Okay, uh huh.

1192
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 6: Just because they rich don't mean they're smart.

1193
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 4: Yep, that part.

1194
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: Michelle Obama just said that in her podcast. Remember she

1195
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 1: said when she got to where she went to school, Harvard.

1196
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: She said, she got Harvard and looked.

1197
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 4: Around and realized, like, wait a minute, everybody here does

1198
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 4: not long.

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00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was, like she said, when she got

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00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: to the Oval office she sat down with some of

1201
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: them people, I was like, wait a minute, everybody here

1202
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: ain't either. I listened to that man. If there's anybody

1203
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: I listened to one podcasts, it's them too. And to

1204
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: be honest, I listened to Michelle Moore because I noticed

1205
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: that she's a lot more open. She never had to

1206
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: hold that office and doesn't have that responsibility, and quite frankly,

1207
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: she don't give a fuck no more.

1208
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 4: The last time, people was getting.

1209
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: On her about not going to that event, she said,

1210
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: and making it seemed like they was getting a divorce

1211
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: and she didn't love Barack no more, or they must

1212
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 1: be getting divorced.

1213
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 4: She didn't show up. She was like, I didn't want

1214
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 4: to show up. It was the inauguration for a president.

1215
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 4: I didn't care for.

1216
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: I don't have to got other things like family, things

1217
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: to do. And I was like, Yo, she really being honest.

1218
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: I know, but Rock is always going to have the quorum.

1219
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: He's the president. He has to and sometimes he'd be like,

1220
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. She'll be like, he don't know. I

1221
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: didn't want to go.

1222
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: I like that. I love that with us do a

1223
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: red carpets and stuff in the future, and it's like

1224
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: both of us being actors, it's like, I'm sure there's

1225
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: gonna be moments.

1226
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 3: Last I want to support.

1227
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 4: Always there.

1228
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 2: I've seen Kadeen don't let the val breeze. She always

1229
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: be at these events. I'm like, because that's my fucking husband.

1230
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 2: To support my husband. Okay, Like what do you guys expect?

1231
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 2: All right, well, thanks for the love, y'all. I feel

1232
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 2: like we need a group hugg. Let's do it in

1233
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: the after show. Can we get a group hug? Everybody in?

1234
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 2: All right, y'all stick around. Were gonna take a quick

1235
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,959
Speaker 2: break and get into this quick listener letter.

1236
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 4: I sh out, we back, so let me handle these

1237
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 4: listening letters today. Wow.

1238
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Yell's crew, Josh and Tribble. How

1239
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: they're not gonna include Matt and Matt's last.

1240
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 2: This is Ellis crew, So I guess they think Matt

1241
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: is Ellis.

1242
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 4: Shout out to Ellis, cru Josh and Treble. That makes sense.

1243
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: Adopted family members, see what you did.

1244
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 4: That's what's up.

1245
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: You are impacting our culture and generation and unprecedented in

1246
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: unprecedented ways.

1247
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 4: Keep doing your thing. Now to what I need advice on.

1248
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm a forty plus year old and divorced mother of

1249
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: four to include a special needs child with autism and

1250
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: other medical issues. I started dating again a bound three

1251
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: years after my divorce and eventually began a relationship with

1252
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: a great guy. Here's my dilemma, or rather here's dilemma.

1253
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: He's a single man with three children by three different mothers.

1254
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: All of his children reside with their mothers. He has

1255
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: voice feeling down because he hasn't been physically present for

1256
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: his kids in a way that he would like to

1257
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: be so, because I wasn't raised and raised to being

1258
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: accomplished to bad parenting choices, I have giving suggestions on

1259
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: things he could do to build a solid presence with

1260
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: his children. Because though because although nothing can replace physical presence,

1261
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: effort in tangible support bets, complaining while not taking action.

1262
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: I've even pulled things together and sent them by him,

1263
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: sent them by him for his kids because I'm a teacher.

1264
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: I've suggested things from mailing them a package a month

1265
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: or of undergarments and outfits and something small that his

1266
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: kids like that why she's writing like this. I've suggested

1267
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: things from mailing them a package a month of undergarments

1268
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: and outfits and small things that his kids like that

1269
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: their mothers allowed them to have. He does work, though

1270
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: limited duty due to having suffered a stroke, so he

1271
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: generates income. He has rejected each and every one of

1272
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: my suggestions, stating that he's done these things before and

1273
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: either it didn't work out, or he said that his

1274
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: mother gets things for the kids, so he doesn't need

1275
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: to do these things. I'm conflicted because he does things

1276
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: for my kids, sometimes at great sacrifice. I don't like

1277
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: that do more for my kids than you do for

1278
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: your own. I'm grateful, don't get me wrong, But I

1279
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: see him, and I know his children's mothers probably feel

1280
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: a way. Should I disconnect. I'm not at a deficit

1281
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: for emotional support. Although my ex husband's children's father doesn't

1282
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: do as he should for our kids. I have a

1283
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: solid support system. What do you think help a sister out.

1284
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm not fragile, so give it to me straight, signed,

1285
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: short story, long sister.

1286
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: That's interesting.

1287
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 4: This is what I think. It seems like she likes projects.

1288
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 4: She picked up a project. He You know, one of

1289
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 4: her children has autism and it needs help.

1290
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: He had a stroke. Seems like he needs help. It

1291
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: seems like she's one of those people that likes to

1292
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: fix people.

1293
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1294
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: You picked up a man that has three children by

1295
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: three different baby mothers, but then also divorced the man

1296
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: and said that he's not there for your children. Why

1297
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: would you get with a man who's exuding the same

1298
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: behavior as the man you just left at this point?

1299
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: To be honest, he says, you want to keep it straight.

1300
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: I feel like you need to use better discernment, stop

1301
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: trying to raise people to do what you want, and

1302
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: choose someone that's doing and living in alignment with the

1303
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: way you want, and you won't have this problem.

1304
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 4: That's what I think.

1305
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to watch her because I know

1306
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: her intentions are good, but you're never going to be

1307
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: able to change him. To be what you want him

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Speaker 1: to be, especially at forty something, so go find someone

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Speaker 1: who is what you want rather than trying to make

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Speaker 1: them be that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because as I'm sitting here thinking, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: it's so layered. But yeah, the man who he's showing

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Speaker 2: himself to be by way of not caring for his

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Speaker 2: children in the way that he should, I think outweighs

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Speaker 2: the things that he's doing for your children, if that

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Speaker 2: makes sense, Because him being there to show up for

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01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 2: your children in that capacity that he can't for his

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Speaker 2: own children leads me to believe that maybe it's performative

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Speaker 2: because he likes you, and maybe he's trying to get

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Speaker 2: on your good foot. And he might have did that

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Speaker 2: with all three his baby monter, that's a fact. Maybe

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Speaker 2: he was trying to get on the good foot with them,

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Speaker 2: and then once they figured out who he really is,

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Speaker 2: much like how you are figuring out who he really is,

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Speaker 2: who he is.

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Speaker 4: That's really what it is.

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Speaker 6: The only niggas that cry about not spending time with

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Speaker 6: their kids or dead beats, because while you sitting here crying,

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01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 6: you can be yeah or something on a plane. A

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Speaker 6: man who wants to be with his kids don't nothing

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Speaker 6: to stop him from being with this kid, period.

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Speaker 4: Except for the woman.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes, I'm not going to say yeah, I'm not going

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01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,919
Speaker 1: to sit here and say that because I know three

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Speaker 1: people personally who have cried about not seeing their kids,

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01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: and every time they tried, the moms have done everything

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01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: in their power, including lying to their boss, calling the cops,

1338
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: filling fake police reports. So I'm not gonna always put

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Speaker 1: it on on the men. But when you have three

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Speaker 1: women and there's three at some point, now, you know

1341
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, it ain't just it ain't just them

1342
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Speaker 1: at this point. You gotta have some discernment too, my guy.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, so different baby mothers that

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01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 2: that's that's uphill battle.

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Speaker 9: You're having those three different personalities. And it's like with

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Speaker 9: his existing girlfriend, my podcastang my bad.

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Speaker 4: I know she was like she was like, that's a point.

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01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 4: I think he's coming uphill battle.

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Speaker 9: But I think his bigger issue is that he's knocking

1350
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 9: down solid advice from his girlfriend, like she's she's she

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01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 9: wants to send things regularly, and he's like, nah, I've

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01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 9: tried that. That doesn't work, Like where does that put

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Speaker 9: you do?

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Speaker 4: That's why I feel like he's showing you exactly who

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01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 4: he is. Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: And Kay made a good point. He's being performative for her.

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01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: He was performative for each one of those baby mothers early.

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Speaker 1: That's how he got them to be their baby mother

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01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: and then once he became himself, it was like, I'm

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Speaker 1: out of here.

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Speaker 4: So I agree with you. I think that I think

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Speaker 4: he is the issue, to be honest, and she had

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Speaker 4: a full plate.

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Speaker 5: Child.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just a lot of individuals, and that makes

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01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: it's to you your four children, him it's three baby

1367
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Speaker 2: mothers and then there's three children and then his mom Like, yeah,

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01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 2: that's just a child.

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Speaker 4: Company autism and special needs. And he just had a stroke.

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Speaker 4: So he doesn't work full time, right, that requires a lot.

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01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 4: That's a lot.

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Speaker 1: That is a crazy Brady bunch. But this is what

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Speaker 1: I don't understand. I'm not trying to knock nobody, right,

1374
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: you don't see your kids enough, got a stroke, you

1375
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: can't work, and what you're doing with your time is

1376
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: trying to get with another woman. That seems to me

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01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: like his priorities are off, Like I feel like he

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01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: should be focusing on his health and creating a big

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01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: better relationship with the kids and the mothers that he

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01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: already has. Trying to start a new one is already

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01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: gonna spread him even more than even if he is

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Speaker 1: a genuine guy. So that's why I think that I

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01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: think she should use discernment and protect herself and her

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01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: kids at this point and be like, listen, we might

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01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: like each other, but there are some things I don't like,

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01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: and I don't want it to get even worse or

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01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: put myself in a situation where I'm having another child

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Speaker 1: with somebody and become your fourth. So I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: since I don't like the way this is going, let's

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01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: take some space until you figure some things out.

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01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 4: That's what I would do.

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Speaker 6: It sounds too like he doesn't know the value of

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 6: commit because he's like, oh, I tried doing that and

1394
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 6: it didn't work. And I heard you telling Jackson today,

1395
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 6: like you know, you think Rome was built in a day,

1396
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 6: Like you got to keep sprinting if you want to

1397
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 6: get better.

1398
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 4: You're not gonna sit on day one.

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01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 6: And so you try to send a gift a time

1400
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 6: or two and your kids are already sawty that.

1401
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 4: You're not there.

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01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 6: You're gonna have to keep trying because you're the father's situation.

1403
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 6: You got to commit to that and three baby mamas

1404
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 6: like yeah, you know, yeah, it sounds like, yeah, he's

1405
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 6: not really putting in the effort that it takes your bill.

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01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: To find a way, Yeah, to find a way to

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01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 2: connect individually with all three children.

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01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, good luck to you out there. Sis

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01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 2: continue to write in y'all for our listener. Let us

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01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 2: we love to hear from you. Email us at the

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01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 2: Ellis Advice at gmail dot com.

1413
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 4: That's t h E E L l I s A

1414
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 4: d V I C E at gmail. Dugger.

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Speaker 2: All right, now I'm moment the truth time. What were

1416
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 2: we talking about today? I feel like we were talking

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01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 2: about a bunch of stuff. Oh we're talking about rich

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01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 2: at the cold money, fics, business, all the things. Who

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01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 2: wants to start with the moment of truth? Anyone got one.

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01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 7: One you can help help the next person in terms

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01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 7: of richesness, tell us what we spoke about. That's not

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01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 7: always monetary. So you can help one. Help somebody learn business, learn,

1423
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 7: help them in need whatever they need. Help them with

1424
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 7: the ethics part too. If you think somebody's going down

1425
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 7: the wrong path, talk to them, have a conversation.

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01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 4: Hmm, I like that.

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01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 6: Uh, one person having something doesn't mean that you can't

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01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 6: have it too. Focus on building community so that everybody

1429
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 6: you touch can be as successful as you are.

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01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 4: I like that, I got one.

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01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: Don't let the amount of money you make define your

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01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: ethics like that, because a lot of people are willing

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01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: to change their ethics depending upon how much money is

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01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: to be made. You can't let the amount of money

1435
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: change if you know it's not ethical, don't do it.

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01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 4: Damn you.

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01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 2: I was going to say, if you know that the

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01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 2: goodness is in your heart and you are doing the

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01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 2: work to build whatever wealth looks like to you, Because

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01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 2: there's also some people aren't comfortable with just being able

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01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 2: to make a certain amount of money knowing that their

1442
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 2: bills are paid, where some people aspire to don't be

1443
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 2: giving me the the VALANCOPI here giving me the eyes.

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01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 2: I'm trying to give my thought. But some people's idea

1445
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 2: of wealth is not monetary. Some people's idea of wealth

1446
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 2: is making enough so that they have their house, their food,

1447
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 2: their bills covered, and their content. Some people aspire to

1448
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 2: have more, regardless of what that looks like. Mind your business,

1449
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 2: Mind the business that pays you, and never let the

1450
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 2: money change your heart.

1451
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 4: Be killing me with the light read because she'd be

1452
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 4: going to you know, because people in the business.

1453
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: I was ultimately trying to get to mind the business

1454
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: that pays you, because then you realize if you do that,

1455
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 2: you might be more successful instead of minding everybody else's business.

1456
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 4: Maybe it's just what it is.

1457
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 2: Who wants to round it out? Or is it? I

1458
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 2: think jobs you're the only one left. Bring us home.

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01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 4: Chill, chill, right.

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01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 9: I did google all right, I want to know exactly

1461
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 9: what Bob said, and I was gonna quote the he said,

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01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 9: possessions make you rich. I don't have that type of

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01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 9: written richness. My richness is life forever. Yes, right, So yeah,

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01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 9: that's it. Shout out to the period.

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01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 4: What that means is that.

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01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 9: True wealth does not come from possessions and materialistic You

1467
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 9: gotta say that, Jamaican accent.

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01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 4: I can't. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna

1469
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 4: do that. You're not gonna do that, Jamaica.

1470
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 2: True.

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01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: Well, you remember how he possessions make it richosis make

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01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: it rich?

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01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 10: Oh ja bless no man, need yes, do possessions make

1474
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 10: you Possessions because It's like possessions, those don't make you rich.

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01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 2: What is this? Forget it? Possessions don't make you rich.

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01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 4: Something like you got a cousin that crazy my cousin

1477
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 4: like a real Okay, what's going on?

1478
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 2: Man?

1479
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 3: What's what's up my nigga?

1480
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 4: That's what's going on?

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01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 6: Man?

1482
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 4: And he's Jamaica. He said, what what's up? My nigga?

1483
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 4: What's up? Is the most What's what's going on?

1484
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 8: Man?

1485
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 4: That's what I get when I go to Jamaica. What's up? Zach?

1486
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 4: Wh what's up?

1487
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 2: Yo?

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01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 3: I love Geneva. Pick up your steps up.

1489
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 4: The world. That's so funny. Geneva say this before we

1490
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 4: get to the out.

1491
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: Two weeks ago he was having sex. I said, yo, homie, Zach,

1492
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: and I'm calling you Geneva, and we had sex.

1493
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 4: Zach is giving across. I loved it. At least it's

1494
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 4: on the same network. I love it.

1495
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:50,799
Speaker 8: Period.

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01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 2: The way I'm gonna do for it, I'm not gonna

1497
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 2: let me pull it out of holding, all right, y'all.

1498
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,720
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