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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff You Should Know?

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Speaker 1: From House Stuff Works dot Com? Hey, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant,

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Speaker 1: and that makes this stuff you should Know the big

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Speaker 1: wooly addition. Yeah, I'm kind of excited about this one. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: we've seen one of those before. We're talking about bison's

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Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, I thought you might bring that up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we we saw one at that animal preserve. There was

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Speaker 1: like a bear and a bison and they were fighting.

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Speaker 1: This little depressing next year, but they are supposedly rescued animals.

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Speaker 1: Um at this animal petting zoo, this wild game petting zoo.

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Speaker 1: And that was a smart bison because he had learned

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Speaker 1: to go to the little shoot where you would put

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Speaker 1: his food. And wasn't he doing something too? He's manipulating

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Speaker 1: it somehow sounds like it, or he was trying to

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Speaker 1: there's some manipulation involved, because I remember thinking like, huh,

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Speaker 1: bisons are very manipulative animals. Jerks. I have a story

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Speaker 1: for you to start this one. If you like that.

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Speaker 1: That sounds great, Chuck. Have I ever told you about

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Speaker 1: my one glorious football story. I've heard little bits about

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Speaker 1: your football experience, that you were a bigger kids. He

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Speaker 1: played on the line, and that's about all I can remember. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: as a child, I went to Beverly Elementary School and

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Speaker 1: I played football for them. Uh And the way it

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Speaker 1: was in Toledo was you would play for your elementary

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Speaker 1: schools team when you got the middle school. Interesting, so

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Speaker 1: you could play your last year of elementary school sixth grade,

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Speaker 1: but then you could keep playing through seventh and eighth grade,

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Speaker 1: but it was for your elementary school. It was weird.

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Speaker 1: But so I played for Beverly Elementary, which meant I

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Speaker 1: was Beverly Iison. And I was probably the kid on

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Speaker 1: the team that must resemble the Bison because I was

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Speaker 1: a pretty big, fat kid and I was aligneman. And um,

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Speaker 1: I sucked at football because no one ever explained any

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Speaker 1: So I didn't teach you to swim, move nothing. They

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Speaker 1: Failed by all coaches. Um. Anyway, I did have one

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Speaker 1: shining moment. Right I was eighth grade. I was third string.

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Speaker 1: We were playing the Colts. I can't remember what school,

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Speaker 1: but they were the worst team, and uh we were.

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Speaker 1: We had the game in hand and the Colts were

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Speaker 1: it was late in the game and they put me

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Speaker 1: guy on the team and your third string. I am

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Speaker 1: at this point the biggest guy on the field. But yes,

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Speaker 1: I pointed to the quarterback. I'm like, I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: coming for you. They put two guys on me. Right

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Speaker 1: I'm staring at him. He knows like I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: my my last chance, right, these two guys come at me,

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Speaker 1: these two offensive linemen. I just grabbed both of the

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Speaker 1: heard a bison, pal you're confused. That's right right here

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Speaker 1: in the States, they're bison. Technically, they're pretty in are changeably.

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Speaker 1: they're native to Africa and Asia. The bison's native to

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Speaker 1: here in the United States, North America typically specifically, and

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Speaker 1: that's where right now. But so they're both members of

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Speaker 1: the Boviday family. UM, and they're very much related. But yes,

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Speaker 1: And we've got two um types of buffalo or bison

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Speaker 1: the flat back, more distinctive cape, and a more well

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Speaker 1: and twenty thousand in Canada, and about twenty and of

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Speaker 1: But let's go even further back to really get to

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Speaker 1: to the the the point about how few five hundred

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Speaker 1: thirty million bison roaming North America at any given time. Well,

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Speaker 1: they were the largest large mammal in the United in

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Speaker 1: Did you see this? So buffalo jumps are were when

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Speaker 1: And then they would you know, they had guys waiting

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Speaker 1: And it was sort of like the first factory farms

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Speaker 1: largest and best preserved buffalo jumps known to exist today.

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Speaker 1: going to abort your fetus. And if you lick this

423
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: genital area, you've just contracted it. If you eat tainted meat,

424
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: tainted buffalo, you can catch it as well and you

425
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: get terrible, terrible flu like symptoms. But if you're a

426
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: bison or a reindeer or something like that, you are

427
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: in grave danger. If you have this bacteria can kill it.

428
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: You're pretty easy well, And that's certainly one of the

429
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Speaker 1: big reasons, because you know, with all these conservation efforts,

430
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Speaker 1: you might think, well, why are there still only half

431
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: a million. That's one of the biggest reasons. And sadly,

432
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: there are quarantine periods and when these infected bison roam

433
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Speaker 1: free like they're prone to do. They have have to

434
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 1: be put down. They get shot, like thirty seven hundred

435
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: of them. Uh in the past twenty years have then

436
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 1: have wanted outside of Yellowstone and they have to take

437
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: him down. Yeah if yeah, if you're one of the problems.

438
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: One of the big problems we're facing with getting the

439
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: bison population back on its feet is that we don't

440
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Speaker 1: have land like we used to. Well that's the other

441
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: So their original range, the original ecosystem are now developed

442
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: like a quickie mark. So it's like, you guys, just

443
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Speaker 1: stay in Yellowstone, so you you wandered outside of Yellowstone

444
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: and bang right. Um. Apparently, also even in Yellowstone sometimes

445
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: things converge, like they did in ninety seven. That winter

446
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: there's a particularly harsh winter, so a lot of the

447
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: a lot of the food supply was covered up with

448
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: snow and ice, and like thirt hundred bisons starved to

449
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: death in the park on top of a bunch that

450
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: had to be shot for wandering out too. So it's

451
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: a bad year for bison and Yellowstone well and not.

452
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: The final reason really is um, when you have a

453
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: smaller herds like this, there's gonna be more inbreeding and

454
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Speaker 1: inbreeding doesn't lead to a healthy population. Yeah, which is

455
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why brucellosis is so rampant. You

456
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: have a narrower gene pool. So thank you to the

457
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: private system of all bison are on private land. Yes,

458
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Yeah, like people coming together to single handedly

459
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: revived this species from the brink of extinction. So every

460
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: time you eat a bison burger, you're helping to conserve

461
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: the bison population. Inn't that weird? That is weird. I

462
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: got one more fact for you, Is it on a

463
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: high note? Uh? Sure? Do you like buffalo cheese and

464
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: stuff like that? I do like buffalo mozzarella. It's good stuff,

465
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: not from a bison. Apparently, any kind of buffalo product

466
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: like that milk and cheese is from the the water buffalo. Cool.

467
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: And the reason why bison are not commercially milked is

468
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: because the ladies have little teets, really tiny little teats

469
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: that are very small, and they're not great for for

470
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: milking and um. Yeah, so they don't adapt well to

471
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. The ladies are like hands off fellas. Huh.

472
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: I did not know that. I can tell you, chuck.

473
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: Even having been a beverly bison, I know today, as

474
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: of today, more than I ever have before about bison

475
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: in general. Yeah, me too, and it's bison's plural. We

476
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: should go free that. Uh, we should go free that

477
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: bison and the game ranch. Do you want to Yeah,

478
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: we should just send it down seventy eight East. Well,

479
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: that's one reason why we're down. Well, I mean it

480
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: would be a descent. Somebody shoot it because they behave radically.

481
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: But apparently one last thing. You can tell how a

482
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: bison's feeling based on his tail. If his tail is

483
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: dangling between his legs, he's calm. If it's moving, he's alert.

484
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: He's maybe watching you. If it's pointing straight out or up,

485
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: get out of town. Yeah, because we're going to charge.

486
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: Well that's pretty cool. Yeah. So that's it for bison,

487
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: and um again, hats off to everybody who's eating bison

488
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: burgers because you are keeping the bison population in check.

489
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: Ted Turner, thank you, sir. I commend you. I had

490
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: raised my cutty sark to you. I saw him at

491
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: at the Willie Nelson concert a few years ago. You did, yeah,

492
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: and I wanted to tackle him and say thank you.

493
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: He probably would have liked that. He was a big

494
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: part of my childhood being from Atlanta, Like he can't

495
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: be from Atlanta in the seventies and all right, not

496
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: think a lot of Ted Turner. Yeah, I'm sure he was,

497
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: like your secret saying a one year. Of course, if

498
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: you want to know more about bison and extinction and

499
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: uh bison burgers and brucellosis, you've got all this stuff

500
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: packed into one great article called what brought Bison Back

501
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: from the Brink of Extinction? You can just put a

502
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: bison extinction in the search bart how stuff works? Dot

503
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Speaker 1: comment should bring up this article? And I think I

504
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: said search bar, did I not? Let's just the cats

505
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: out of the bag already. Okay, John Hodgeman is sitting

506
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: right here. We're not going to do listen to mail.

507
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: Sorry listeners. Is the fourth time I am putting my

508
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: foot down. This is the last time, at least for

509
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: this series. This has been going on for two weeks.

510
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: It's fine, this is the last time. Okay, So this

511
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: is four of four. Yeah, maybe we should treat you

512
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: a little more regally then. This is four of four?

513
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: Can we keep some coronets? Excellent? Yeah, so, Mr Hodgeman,

514
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: thank you very much for coming pushing me right out

515
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Speaker 1: the door. Josh, thank you very much for coming. And

516
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm a hologram. I'm not even here pushing through you

517
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: right now. Hodgeman Actual is in St. Louis, Missouri Gateway

518
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Speaker 1: to the West, getting ready to perform tonight on the

519
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Speaker 1: book Tour live at Top to St. Louis Arch Yeah, well, no,

520
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: not exactly. Where is the locale again? I had here

521
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: just a second ago. It was at the bookstore there

522
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: last like laugh a minute, bookstore, I think is what

523
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: I was calling. I think it was the Mad Art Gallery.

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Speaker 1: That's the same same thing, laugh a minute, seven pm,

525
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: this very evening, November three. Do you want to say

526
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: the name again? The Mad Art Gallery? Seven pm, this

527
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: very evening, November three. Hodgeman Actual is presenting material from

528
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: his book that is all with special guest insert name here.

529
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: That's excellent. I can't believe we got that guy or gal. Yeah,

530
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: good going so so No, I'm just a holographic representation

531
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Speaker 1: of myself here again to say hello to you guys. Well,

532
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: thank you because because I'm a I'm a big fan

533
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: and I'm a deranged millionaire who has a hologram of himself,

534
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: and you can send a favorite podcast. Why not exactly.

535
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: And that's the thing about Hodgment, like even even getting

536
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: the hologram of him, is you know more than you

537
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: could possibly want with anybody else. I agree with you.

538
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: As the hologram, I can say, I'm actually a little better.

539
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: Oh really, we noticed, we noticed last time. I'm not

540
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: as flatulent. We noticed due to my holographic nature. Although

541
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: you still make the sounds. It's just weird. It's that

542
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: the pros But I am I am. I'm a simulated

543
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: program designed to interact with real world stimulus in a

544
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: realistic manner. Eat a Hamburger sandwich that moves you one

545
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: of your favorite, one of your famous Atlanta and Hamburger sandwiches. So, John,

546
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: you wrote a book. It's called That is All. It

547
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: is the third in your series explaining the world. It

548
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: is my complete book of World Knowledge. Is like my

549
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: previous two books, a collection of fascinating trivia, historical tidbits,

550
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: and amazing true facts, all of which made up by me.

551
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: This being the last in the series of complete world Knowledge,

552
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: indeed the final world Knowledge, dealing with subjects as diverse

553
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: as travel and ghosts and magic, tricks and wine and sports.

554
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: In the end of the world, and it is called

555
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: that is All, and we've covered a lot of those

556
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: in the podcast too, So this is almost I guess

557
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: you would say companion piece the last time you would. Yeah, no, Yeah,

558
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: that's right. It's also my life's work. But thank you.

559
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: Last week you accused me of taking Sorry, last week,

560
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: Chuck accused men over over let's say, over liberal inspiration

561
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 1: from the Stuff you Should Know podcast after I had

562
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: very graciously pointed out that a huge section of my

563
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: book regarding noodling was an homage to your very podcast,

564
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: and then I took that nice gesture and I stomped

565
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: on it. But I will tell you one thing. I

566
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: did download one of your podcasts specifically as research for

567
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: the book That is all Necronomicon. That was a good

568
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: one with co host Jonathan Stricklin's, by the way, just

569
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: beat himself because we mentioned him in reference to you.

570
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: What just happened just now? Yes, my other hologram is

571
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: cleaning that up this week. That is your full service.

572
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: There are many holograms wandering the halls right now. That's

573
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: part of a new security system. How stuff works is considering. So, John,

574
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: is it true that in this book you explain things

575
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: like the thick fish, what's the thick fish? And the

576
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: bowl of brown? Oh? Yes, that's right. Well that's not

577
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: part of my You know, you know my book better

578
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: than I do. Is it true that you explain the

579
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: superiority of the year nine one as birth year, which

580
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: we both share? That's true? What's going on? Yes? True?

581
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: Is it true that you explain the benefits and taboos

582
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: at sea while cruising? That is so. Is it true John,

583
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: that there is a table in your book about disgusting

584
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: regional sodas? That is true? Would you be kind enough

585
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: to read some of those sodas? I feel like I'm

586
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: being interrogated. Yes, I have my own copy of the Okay,

587
00:34:54,600 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: oh well you haven't open there? The thick A thick

588
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: fish and the bowl of brown? What's the thick fish? Fish?

589
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: The bowl of brown? The the Patagonian toothfish wine, the

590
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: furry forms. These are some of the funny things that

591
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: you ingest in your book. Those are just words, but

592
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: you're streaming together. You would think that's my job to

593
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: string those words together. Bowl of brown comes from a

594
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: section of my book on rose wine, because rose wine

595
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: is neither white nor red. I love the wine chapter,

596
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. It's something that I previously knew

597
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: nothing about because I thought that wine was so complex

598
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: and multilayered uh and and um and his stork that

599
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: it could only be enjoyed by But apparently no simple

600
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: just grape juice all you need to make its scrape

601
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: juice human feet in time. Yeah, own yeast. But but

602
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: I point out that because rose is neither white nor red,

603
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 1: it is best haired with ambiguous foods like the thick fish.

604
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: Like thick fish, scrod, brown brown, mystery meat. That's a rose.

605
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: I like rose like. I mean it, quite honestly. I

606
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: like rose. I like sparkling rose as well. I know it.

607
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: You know you can. You can tolerate ambiguity. Some of

608
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: us can't. Like. I'm not the least bit certain how

609
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: either of you two feel about. We like things that

610
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, we like things black or white, so we

611
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: drink either white wine or black wine. You know what

612
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: I mean, We'll mix them up. I don't remember what

613
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: all those other words you were talking about were pretty

614
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 1: much it you were going to talk about. But they're

615
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: also non alcoholic drinks that you can drink, And there

616
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: are still regional sodas all over this country that are

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00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: not distributed to the rest of the world. Um and

618
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: and you might enjoy going into a local uh you know,

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Speaker 1: on a road trip, go into a little trading post

620
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: there and reaching behind the disgusting handmade sandwiches and pulling

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Speaker 1: out one of these disgusting regional sodas to enjoy. So,

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00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: for example, there's ties Gumption brand brain drizzle, which you

623
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: can only get in Maine, Vermont. It's uh, you know.

624
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: Sodas were originally served in pharmacies. That's why there in

625
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: parts of the country is still called tonic. In New

626
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: England they're still called tonic because they were medicine. There

627
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: were ways of delivering medicine and and in particular sort

628
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: of like herbal remedies and nerve tonics and cocaine phizzics.

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Speaker 1: These are what they would serve. Cocaine pizzics were invented

630
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Speaker 1: in this very city, in this very city of Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: The cocaine fish, who later became Coca Cola. Ties Gumption

632
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: brand brain Drizzle was the only one of the great

633
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 1: old sodas to actually contain cerebrospinal flute. Once incredibly popular

634
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: throughout the Eastern Seaboard, for its invigorating flavor and hallucinatory properties.

635
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: It is now primarily found only in northern New England,

636
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: where it is still made using the company's own secret recipe,

637
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: including fluid from patient thirty one unnamed Hydrocephalic Patients Secret

638
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: Hospital and Brattleboro, Vermont. What's the the other flavor profile?

639
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: And that one yes bitter medicinal brainy sugary. You know Brattleburg,

640
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: Vermont as a town very near to my retreat in

641
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: Internetlas Hills, western Massachusetts. Um, and it's a wonderful town.

642
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: I had a hard time during Hurricane Irene. There was

643
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: a lot of flooding in Brattleboro, So I hate to

644
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: make fun of it. Do you know what I mean?

645
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: That they they're all dried out. Now you should go

646
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: up there, Go visit the Latchus Theater, go eat at fireworks,

647
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 1: go to the retreat farm and petting zoo. It's wonderful

648
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: place to go. But did you know the Brattleboro, Vermont

649
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: speaking of ties brain drizzle? But that that the that

650
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: the hit wraps all from two thousand seven Sipping mice

651
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: A Drizzle is now synonymous with the musical subgenre known

652
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: as brattle Brattleboro, Vermont, white person with dreadlocks wrap. That

653
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: whole subculture, the whole subculture started up there, and uh

654
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: and that song. Sipping on Massa drizzle also introduced America

655
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: to the controversial drink known as si drizzle, which is

656
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: ties brain drizzle mixed with apricot brandy about a hundred tablets,

657
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: suda fed crushed up and maple syrup and and and

658
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: to enjoy it, you serve it in a Solo brand

659
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: plastic cup with a viking and dusted rim. That's great.

660
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if we need to go in any

661
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: into any other regional Sodus, but there are a lot

662
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: of them. Uh. Well, the the only other one in

663
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: the Denver, Colorado area and the Rockies. You can still

664
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: get Chickoh soda and it's roast chicken flavored. Uh and

665
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: it's the only remaining product in the in the in

666
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: the company in the line from Savory Meat Soda Corp.

667
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: Because up up until up until not only could you

668
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: get Chicko, you could also get porko and steak and eggsham.

669
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: Those are also available, but now just Chicko and then

670
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: chum and then chum wine based on cheer wine. Right.

671
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: It was one of many rip offs of North Carolina's

672
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: famous cheer wine. But this one, this one, unlike cheer wine,

673
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: this one has its flavor profile of sweet cherry, bubble

674
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: gum and fish blood chum wine. It's it's motto was

675
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: the one, the one to drink while spreading chump. It

676
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: was for fishing for fisher persons, and that that was

677
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: that little of delight was read directly from the book.

678
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: That is all. That is all, John Um. That is

679
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: a hardcover book. It is a usually issue. It is

680
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: It is the first edition hardcover book in pure black

681
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: and white. No light can escape from that. It is.

682
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: It is the black hole of hardcover books. It is absorbing,

683
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: It is absorbing every light ray that comes at it.

684
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: It is a dark, stark tablet reflecting um and monolithic,

685
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: indeed reflecting the end of this series, the end of

686
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: human civilization and time as we know it in two

687
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: hasnt twelve, and now that I've turned forty, the end

688
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: of my life so more tragically, what's your life's work? Yes,

689
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: it is actually, you know, I'm sorry to put it

690
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: in such stark terms, but I mean, you know, it

691
00:41:55,080 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: is the purest unfiltered expression of my adult brain. And uh,

692
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: and I hope very much the people will. I mean, look,

693
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 1: we live in it. We live in a culture where

694
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: people are getting their their fake facts and they're made

695
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: up trivia, and they're and they're invented truths for free

696
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: on the news every night. Do you know what I mean?

697
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: Though you may ask why should I go out and

698
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: buy a hardcover copy of a book? Uh full of it?

699
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: And you know that is a question only you can answer.

700
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: All I can tell you is this is truly my

701
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: life's work. And I hope and I enjoy sharing it

702
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: with you, and I hope you enjoy it well as such.

703
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're curating it. This kind of experience,

704
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: this release is not just like Hodgeman dropped a book.

705
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: Hodgeman dropped a book. It's a great book. This is

706
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: not my tumbler book. Um there you're touring with it.

707
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: I am starting well, I'm in St. Louis. I'm in St.

708
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: Louis and right uh, and then tomorrow I will be

709
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, California at the November four the Largo

710
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: Theater with Paul F. Tompkins. That's a wonderful place. And

711
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: then I will be in Portland on Sunday the seventh

712
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: with John Roderick uh and uh and then we we

713
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: traveled directly up to Seattle after that to be at

714
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: town Hall again with John Roderick and other special guests

715
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: will join me later on the tour. John will be singing,

716
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: and there will be singing songs. You will not just

717
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: be We're going to join him on ukulele and vocals.

718
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: There will be ukulele playing for sure, jumping fleet playing.

719
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: John is going to on stage teach a kid to read.

720
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: That's right, because this isn't a sham, It's not it's

721
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: not a carnival act. I will find an oliterate child

722
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: in each town and teach them to read the words.

723
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: That is all. And it's gonna be heartbreaking. It's going

724
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 1: to be the last part isn't true. But I will

725
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: be joined by other special guests who may or may

726
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: not be literate throughout the tour and it will be

727
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: going on through the sixteenth. And if you want to

728
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: find out where I am, and and if you want

729
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: to come and see see me present material from the book,

730
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: you can go to areas of my expertise dot com

731
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: and and and visit there. You will have to buy

732
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: a ticket for the book, but the cost of the

733
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: ticket includes a copy of the book. So that's a

734
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: pretty good deal. Yeah, I think. And you'll you'll be

735
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: signing some too, and you'll sign, I will sign. I

736
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: will sign every I will sign every book. And uh,

737
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: you're one of those guys, aren't like you? Yes, you

738
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: see to it that everybody who's standing in line gets

739
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: the gets the signature. I want Legionnaire's disease. I'm gonna

740
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shake everyone's hand, come on, um and if

741
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: if I can pull it together, guys, And I hate

742
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: to make promises, but you know, sometimes you got to

743
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: say something publicly to make yourself do it. I'm trying

744
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: to find maybe you guys can help me. We probably can't.

745
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,959
Speaker 1: Is a company that will make me some custom mini

746
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: packets of mayonnaise so that I can give people who

747
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: come to the event free premium premium which is samples

748
00:44:54,680 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: of John hodgmons uh Ragnarok Proof survival mannaise. Awesome because

749
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: aside from your own urine, mayonnaise is going to be

750
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: the thing that you need most after the feces comes

751
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: down and civilization is over. Well, one thing you can

752
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: do is lubricate small engines with mayonnaise. With mayonnaise, Yeah,

753
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: that's just one of the uses you can You can

754
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: use it as a as a cleanser, a hair cleanser,

755
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: and it's a wonderful conditioner. You can use it to

756
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: lubricate small engines. Uh. You can take garbage bags and

757
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: spread them out on the lawn and put mayonnaise all

758
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: over them. Guess what, you just made a slip and

759
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: slide in a time when there is no more running water.

760
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: Your kids can enjoy that you leave those garbage bags

761
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: out in the sun for a while. Guess what, You've

762
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: just made yourself a handy poison well and during after

763
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: the super collapse, John, you also make a good point

764
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: in the book that the currency could very well be

765
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: the beef jerky dollar. Oh, it's definitely going to be

766
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: the beef You have a handy table of what one

767
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: beef jerky dollar equals. Yeah, and I think my where

768
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: I would spend my beef turkey dollar if I had one,

769
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: would be the I think seven point five hours of

770
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: human human contact was that it, Yes, without murder at

771
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: the end, without being cannibalized at the end. You have

772
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: to recall any other things A beef turkey dollar will

773
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: get you after the super collapse. Well no, but if

774
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: you're interested listener, you can take a look at my book.

775
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: That is all. It's one of my favorite parts, which

776
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: really I mean also it's it's let's just come out

777
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: and say it. It is something of a if not

778
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: a survival guide. There's some survival to it, but also

779
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: like a pretty like a beat by beat prophecy of

780
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: what's going to be going down in twelve. If you

781
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: if you accept the hard made up fact that the

782
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: Mayan Long Count calendar ends on December twenty first, two

783
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: thousand twelve, thus bringing an end to human civilization and

784
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: time as we know it, in the end of the world,

785
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: then you will find in my book A Day by

786
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: Day Today in Ragnarok, page of day calendar running down

787
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: for you what's going to happen starting December one, two

788
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: thousand eleven, all the way through the Blood Wave, the Omegapulse,

789
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: the collapse of the dollar, the the return of the

790
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: ancient and unspeakable ones, um and uh and and the

791
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: Singularity as well, um and so yes, So we'll teach

792
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: you how to survive all of these terrible catastrophes until

793
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: December twelve, and then it's just all over for every

794
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: bo or maybe not, maybe not, I could be wrong.

795
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: Well that's probably right. Well, I think what you're saying

796
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: is there limits to even your power. Look, there is

797
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: a possibility that when two thousand excuse me, there is

798
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: a possibility, when December twelve comes around, that the last

799
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: event of Ragnarok will be the headless body of nugs

800
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: show hubb, one of the ancient unspeakable, pushing the Earth

801
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: through a rift in space time into another dimension in

802
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: which none of us have any memory of Ragnarok, and

803
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: the things in my book are considered to be simply

804
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: the flights of fancy of a television personality and the

805
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: made up facts of an adult, deranged millionaire. Look, I

806
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: hope that happens. Okay, probably not, But it's one possibility

807
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: that we will wake up on December twelve and it

808
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: will be like none of this has ever happened, sort

809
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: of like why two K? No, that's coming? Okay? Why

810
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: two K is coming next? In two thousand twelve, I think,

811
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: And about uh, it's sometime in May or June. The

812
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: thing with why tu K, though, is that it doesn't

813
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 1: attack computers. It only attacks like um small non mechanical

814
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: tools like can openers. We had that all wrong. It

815
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: is not after computers at all. Is it is after

816
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: non computerized helpful devices. It's weird, and John I misspoke.

817
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to misquote your fake fact. But one

818
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: beat tricky dollar after the super collapse, so people know,

819
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: is equal to seven point three hours of human intimacy.

820
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: And that's what I'd spend my dollar on your dirky dollar.

821
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: Hankah guilt. Yeah, well that's it's not that those are

822
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: It's not that there's gonna be one currency. They're just

823
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: gonna it's you know, this is why I say you

824
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: shouldn't bother hoarding gold. Do you know what I mean? Yes,

825
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: gold is shiny. I'm not going to argue with you

826
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: on that's shiny and heavy, do you know what I mean?

827
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: But when you are are, when you have been turned

828
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: into an albino right by by the great worm hug numbeth. Right,

829
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: you don't care about gold. You want sunscreen, you know

830
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: what I mean? And the great thing about mayonnaise is

831
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: that it's not very good sunscreen, but it makes a

832
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: terrific short term albino mask. If you want to sneak

833
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: into albino town and sell them Mayonnai's posing a sunscreen.

834
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: This is how we're all gonna have to live in

835
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: the future. Do you understand what I'm saying? This is

836
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: why Mannai's is so helpful. It all comes back to this.

837
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: So listen, everybody. I hope by the time you hear this,

838
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: I will have solved the problem. Well, I got a guy.

839
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: You know you got a man. You got a comment

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Speaker 1: I gotta packet guy. He does all kinds. You're not messing.

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Speaker 1: You're not messing with the Hodgeman. Now are you want Hodgeman?

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Speaker 1: Catch up? You want Hodgman Tartar sauce? No, no, I

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Speaker 1: don't want Tartar sauce for right. What do you think

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Speaker 1: I got a guy? You think I'm looking for something

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Speaker 1: to put on a filet o fish. I'm looking for

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Speaker 1: something to save the world. I gotta go. I gotta

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Speaker 1: power down. Guys. It's been a lot of fun. I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry listeners whose mail did not get read because I

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Speaker 1: took over your segment. All four of you know now

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Speaker 1: come on, But I but I please understand, listeners, I too,

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Speaker 1: am a listener, and I hope you will continue to

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Speaker 1: support these two wonderful natural broadcasters even though they have

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Speaker 1: betrayed your trust by putting me on their podcast air

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Speaker 1: four weeks or four podcasts in a row, that's right

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Speaker 1: by that is all. I recommend the hardcover just because

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Speaker 1: I'm old school and it's all that exists. There's no

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Speaker 1: there's no audiobook, there is no electronic edition, there is

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Speaker 1: no paperback. There is only hardcover edition. You know why,

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Speaker 1: because when Ragnarok comes, you're not gonna You're gonna be

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Speaker 1: using your reading tablets to make shanties. That's right. This

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Speaker 1: is the only thing that's going to be left. Also,

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Speaker 1: I haven't gotten around to recording the audiobook, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know when we're going to do any book. So

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Speaker 1: if you want to support my life's work, seriously, please

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Speaker 1: come and see me on tour, or go to your

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Speaker 1: local bookshop and purchase the book. Go to see him

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Speaker 1: on tour. That's a treat, just to share air with you,

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Speaker 1: my friend. You know what. We're not sharing air. I'm

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Speaker 1: a holograp m you know. But but the people who

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Speaker 1: go see you will be able to share. They will,

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Speaker 1: and we have before and it's not. And my breath,

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Speaker 1: despite what you may have read and nothing to post,

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Speaker 1: my breath is not poison. So if you want to

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Speaker 1: catch up with the real Hodgeman, share some air with

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Speaker 1: him on tour right, you can go to areas of

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Speaker 1: my expertise dot com Areas of my expertise dot com.

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Speaker 1: Spell it out like a normal person. Or you can

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Speaker 1: tweet to him and be like Hodgeman, where are you at?

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Speaker 1: On Twitter by addressing it to at Hodgeman it's the

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Speaker 1: at sign at sign h O D G M A N. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that will go directly to John's pocket. I shall

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Speaker 1: and I shall feel it. Um. And if you are

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Speaker 1: ready to get back to business with us, join us

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Speaker 1: next week when things should be substantially more normal. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And in the meantime, if you want your listener mail red,

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Speaker 1: you send it to us. Send it to us right now,

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Speaker 1: and if it's the coolest one, it will be the

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Speaker 1: first one we read after the Hodgeman break post Hodgeman break,

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Speaker 1: and it will that will be substantial, that'll mean something. Okay, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what, whoever is listener mail you read next week,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna send them a free book that is really

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Speaker 1: and then it's on us to pick it out though.

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Speaker 1: So that's fun to trust you so they can bribe

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Speaker 1: us crazy how about but not but not Sarah? How no? No,

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Speaker 1: sorry Sarah. So I'm going to send something anyway? All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: then I would get to my email if I were you,

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Speaker 1: because obviously the first ones we get are gonna be

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Speaker 1: the ones we read. You can shoot us that email

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Speaker 1: at Stuff Podcast at how stuff works dot com. Be

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