1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for calling United Airlines. I appreciate your help, but 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: I would prefer to speak correctly with the representative. I'm 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: having some issues with my flight booking that I think 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: would be best resolved through a direct conversation. That's me 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: on the phone recently. Well, it's not really me. It's 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: a clone of my voice being fully controlled by an 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: AI chatbot making a call using my phone number. I 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: started playing around voice cloning six months ago, just for fun, 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: but pretty soon I became consumed with a question, what 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: would happen if I made an artificial version of me 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: and set it loose in the world. 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: Okay, fine, that was also a voice clone. This is 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: me for real. I promise I won't keep doing that. 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: I'm a journalist who's been writing about technology and it's 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: sometimes dark underbelly for a couple of decades. You've no 16 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: doubt heard about the latest debates around AI. Will it 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: make us hyper productive or just take our jobs? Will 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: it be our trusty digital assistant or super intelligent overlord, 19 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: or just fill the world with endless made up garbage. 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: Recently I decided to answer these questions by immersing myself, 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: replicating myself actually in the form of cloned voice agents, 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: replacing myself before someone else could replace me. 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, Nikhil, Great to be chatting with you today. 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: Do you have any questions about the podcast before we 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: dive in? 26 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,279 Speaker 2: Oh, that's really funny. 27 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm glad you think so. 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 2: My voice agents talked to sources, my friends and family, 29 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 2: to scammers and spammers and other voice agents. I sent 30 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: them to meetings and tried to use them to work 31 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 2: out my issues. 32 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: Feel free to share your thoughts on what you feel 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: like doing based on your current bodily sensations. Honestly, I 34 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: just feel like crawling under a blanket and shutting out 35 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: the world. 36 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: I learned something about how it's going to feel to 37 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: live in a world populated by humanish impostors. 38 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: Hey, I know this is kind of out of the blue, 39 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: but have you buy any chance stolen my identity? 40 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: Wait? 41 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: What are you serious? 42 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: No, I haven't stolen your identity. 43 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: Why would you even think that? It's so lonely? 44 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: I feel so lonely. I'm Evan Ratliffe, and I'm the 45 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: real Evan Ratliffe. And this is shell Game, a new 46 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: podcast made by humans about things that are not what 47 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: they seem. This season that thing is my voice. This 48 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: is the story of what happened when I made a 49 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 2: digital copy of myself an attempt to see how amazing 50 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 2: and scary and ridiculous the world is about to get. 51 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: Coming July ninth, follow us and go to shell game 52 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: dot co to find out more and support the show. 53 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a blast. Bye yeah bye, take care 54 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: Bye goodbye.