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Speaker 4: Welcome in. This is The Herd. Whoever you may be listening,

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Speaker 4: however you may be making us part of your day.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much. I'm Doug Dolland in for Colin Cowherd

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Speaker 4: and normally I host the show that follows this show

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Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio. We call it Doug Gotment Show.

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Speaker 4: In this case, you stuck with me. It's a Friday.

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Speaker 4: I hope you're joining the summer college kids moving in. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I did this on my show yesterday. Now music, you

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Speaker 4: went to north Ridge, right, yes, sir? What was your call? Tilley?

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Speaker 4: What was your college drop off?

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Speaker 5: Like? What do you mean drop off?

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Speaker 4: Well, like now you know when when my daughters when

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Speaker 4: when we put them in college, you know, like last year,

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Speaker 4: like well you gotta go and you set up the

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Speaker 4: dorm room and you oh.

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Speaker 5: Oh sorry, I got so like I went to it

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Speaker 5: was a blade, just dropped me off of the dorm

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Speaker 5: and then unload me and then they leave.

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Speaker 4: Where was the dorm?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 5: It was at Texas State in San Marcos.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was back when it was Southwest Texas State.

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Speaker 4: Let's just be honest.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, no, dougger. I got two diplomas, Okay,

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Speaker 5: I got Southwest Texas State, and then they changed it

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Speaker 5: and I got a new diploma, says Texas State.

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Speaker 4: But I'm saying when you were dropped off in San Marcos.

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Speaker 5: Texas, correct, it was Southwest Texas State.

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Speaker 4: It was Southwest Texas State. Yeah, bobcats. They got the

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Speaker 4: big wall behind the one of the baskets, the weird

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Speaker 5: You've been there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when my first year after playing in college. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So I played in the USBL number one pick overall

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Speaker 4: League in Lombech State. Then I was supposed to play

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Speaker 4: for a team that trained in Italy but played in Russia.

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Speaker 4: I was going to play as an Israeli. I know,

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Speaker 4: it's a lot. Didn't get my passport because you had

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Speaker 4: came back, was in the CBA and beat out thirteen

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Speaker 4: I played with three different touring teams. Remember college basketball

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Speaker 4: used to be able to play these touring teams in

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Speaker 4: an non comfort in the preseason, right, EA sports there

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Speaker 4: used to be. First there was Marathon Oil and Athletes

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Speaker 4: which was the Pump Brothers. They had all these teams

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Speaker 4: that played. So I played for athletes. First was at

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Speaker 4: Oklahoma and Texas based Christian organization and we played. I played.

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Speaker 4: My dad had a team we played and beat like

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Speaker 4: I played seven games with this team in Texas and Oklahoma.

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Speaker 4: I'll never forget. Like we got in a we got

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Speaker 4: I think we came back and played TCU. I don't remember,

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Speaker 4: There you go. So, so, how far did you grow

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Speaker 4: Okay, so it's it wasn't that big a thing. But

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 4: What what? What? What happened?

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Speaker 5: Oh? It was like drop me off, helped me unload,

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Speaker 4: I think that maybe a guy the music we got

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Speaker 5: Yep, have a gay.

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Speaker 4: I went to Notre Dame. I got on a plane.

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Speaker 4: But so I think it's part of it is it's

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Speaker 4: the the drop off blues today, drop off blues. I

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Speaker 4: What I got now? Now I got to figure out

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Speaker 4: I gotta find my own friends. Maybe that's it. Speaking

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Speaker 4: of college. So Arch Manning said to be the quarterback

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Speaker 4: Archie Manning, who's the grandfather to Arch Manning, came out

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Speaker 4: draft this year. He's gonna be a Texas in next year.

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Speaker 4: Last hour, we had Josh Payton. If you know college football,

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Speaker 4: you probably know Josh Pate's got his own college football show.

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Speaker 4: His stock continues to go up, up, up and up.

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Speaker 4: I asked Josh about the idea that arch would stay

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Speaker 7: That's been the talk around him since he got there.

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Speaker 7: If I don't buy it, it's just me calling him

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Speaker 7: a baldface liar, and I don't think they are now.

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Speaker 7: He could just explode this year and be projected number

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Speaker 7: make at that point. I am not applying those kind

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 7: This is, you know me personally, the market is, the

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Speaker 7: be good to really good, with flashes of elite, and

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Speaker 7: if he delivers anything above and beyond that, so be it.

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Speaker 7: But I do want to take a step back. I mean,

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Speaker 7: it's very obvious nothing around him is conventional. Archie Manny

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Speaker 7: talking about that, chief among them, his thought process in

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Speaker 7: the way he gets to handle himself because of what

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Speaker 7: his last name is, chief among him. But when is

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Speaker 7: the last time that we had known a kid for

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Speaker 7: over half a decade? People have been talking about this

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Speaker 7: dude over half a decade, like fully formed opinions, and

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Speaker 7: we hadn't even seen him be listed as the number

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Speaker 7: one quarterback of Texas yet. So you want to talk

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Speaker 7: about expectations, think about how many hard boiled expectations and

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Speaker 7: thoughts and opinions people have of him without ever seeing

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Speaker 7: him play entire six game stretches of a season before.

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Speaker 7: I don't know that we've ever really seen that dynamic

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Speaker 3: Like you did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, we talked a little bit about Tim

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Speaker 4: Tebow mattering, so there's a lot of pressure. I don't

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Speaker 4: think this is to take any of the pressure off him.

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Speaker 4: I just don't. I I just don't like if we

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Speaker 4: out our favorite quarterbacks from the last fifteen years twenty

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Speaker 4: years in the NFL, what would they have in common? Right?

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Speaker 4: I ask I ask you music, I asked you too.

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Speaker 4: E throw out a quarterback like Philip Rivers. I think

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Speaker 4: I remember starting like fifty five games in college. Peyton Manning,

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Speaker 4: you know, Bo Nicks five years of college. Michael pennockx

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow didn't start a ton, but he did start

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Speaker 4: of injuries, some because he was buried. Again. It's not

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Speaker 4: the end all be all, but go through the list

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Speaker 5: Doug, I'm going to give you one, and he had

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Speaker 4: think some of that has been On the other hand, Mike, look,

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Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes. So he left went to Oklahoma started Oklahoma

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Speaker 4: Kyler Murray should be pointed out was he was in

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Speaker 4: all right, give me, give me another one, like kind

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Speaker 4: of go through it. Obviously, Aaron Rodgers is gonna be

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Speaker 4: The difference also now is that you know, we talked

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Speaker 4: They don't care if you're a year and a half

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Speaker 4: start three. They don't care. We're judging you baseball what

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Speaker 4: whether or not they're gonna stand by you and you're

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Speaker 4: gonna be their quarterback and eventually extend you, like we

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Speaker 4: can actually do this. This this is It seems like

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Speaker 4: a long process, but it's not. Go through the quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: actually is kind of a real thing. I don't think

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Speaker 4: have plenty of money. Just isn't right. Lamar three years

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Speaker 4: three year starter. I want to say at Tech, at Tech,

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Speaker 4: you know. Jalen Hurts, the guy started Alabama and lost

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Speaker 3: if he's ready. No, he got hurt last year he was.

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Speaker 3: He got benched by Flaco. Originally you got hurt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the decision, man. I think he could

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Speaker 4: I got I be honest. I think with other guys,

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Speaker 4: to scrimmages or whatever. What do you need to see

433
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Speaker 4: out of Kleb Williams this season.

434
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Speaker 3: I think we need to see him get better every

435
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 3: quarter of the season, right, so quarter two is better

436
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 3: than quarter one, quarter three better than quarter two, and

437
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 3: then by the end of the season lasts you know,

438
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Speaker 3: four weeks, five weeks, obviously one extra week in the quarter.

439
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 3: Now he's playing at a level that they've determined, you're

440
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Speaker 3: our franchise quarterback, like that has to be done by

441
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Speaker 3: this season. They've given him the opportunities with the improved

442
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Speaker 3: offensive line, improve play caller that have weapons. They've given

443
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Speaker 3: him all the opportunity just personnel wise, to make it

444
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Speaker 3: happen now. And it's okay to start slowing a new offense.

445
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: That's totally normal, you know, That's what happens often with

446
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Speaker 3: a new OC I don't you know. Camp struggles are

447
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Speaker 3: what they are. I would like to see more positive

448
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Speaker 3: ports about what's happening. Can't. But again, there's installed days,

449
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 3: and there's things you're working on, and and you know,

450
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Speaker 3: him and coach might be working on one thing one day,

451
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Speaker 3: we don't we don't know about it, and it looks

452
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Speaker 3: bad on film, but that's actually what they're trying to

453
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Speaker 3: work on that day. So I'm not going to judge

454
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Speaker 3: him too much on the practice, but I think by

455
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Speaker 3: the end of the season he's got to be, you know,

456
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Speaker 3: a quarterback that the Bears say, this is our long

457
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Speaker 3: term anager. Otherwise they might look elsewhere, right, I mean,

458
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Speaker 3: I think it's not out of the question that Ben

459
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Speaker 3: Johnson if it doesn't work with Caleb Williams, just says

460
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Speaker 3: to Ryan Poles like I can't do this with him.

461
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Speaker 3: I gotta find someone else.

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Speaker 4: Agreed. Agreed. Last one, You Organ ducks a lot of

463
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Speaker 4: money in that program. What are your thoughts?

464
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Speaker 3: We Organ spends money on players. This is news to me.

465
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Speaker 3: I had no idea. I h. I'm excited to uh

466
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Speaker 3: to see. Look, we have a lot of new parts

467
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Speaker 3: this year. Some of the those are portal players that

468
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Speaker 3: are really good.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: We had a tackling guard that will probably be close

471
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Speaker 3: to first round picks. That's safety. They will be a

472
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Speaker 3: first round pick most likely a good running back. But

473
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of youth in some some positions. I'm

474
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Speaker 3: curious to see.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: Landing is now entering his fourth season. This is his

477
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Speaker 3: first his third year of recruit US you know as

478
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Speaker 3: mature recruiting class is this year So there's a lot

479
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Speaker 3: of guys defensive line, linebacker, uh that have been wide

480
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Speaker 3: receiver and been waiting their turn to play, and now

481
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Speaker 3: it's their time to play. But this is what I

482
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Speaker 3: think builds a program, right, and then portal is nice

483
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Speaker 3: for for a couple of years, but eventually those high

484
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Speaker 3: school kids that you've developed for this is their third

485
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Speaker 3: year for a lot of these defensive tackles and linebackers

486
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Speaker 3: that are getting a chance to play this year. So

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Speaker 3: I'm very curious to watch those guys early in the season.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's a decent schedule, so we should start

489
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Speaker 3: faster and go to Penn State week five. That's what

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Speaker 3: I'm excited for is the youth. Right, We've gone portal heavy,

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Speaker 3: you know for a couple of years, which is what

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Speaker 3: everyone does it. He just sort of knocked it down

493
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Speaker 3: last year and they're gonna play these young guys now.

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to seeing all those guys are about.

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Speaker 3: But the talent is there. It's a matter of execution

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Speaker 3: and can you do it On Saturdays.

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Speaker 4: He's one of only Jeff Schwartz. May the Schwartz be

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Speaker 4: with you, Jeff, talk to you soon, but thank you here.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having everybody, all right, that's my guy. Jeff Schwartz,

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Speaker 4: awesome dude, longtime pro the National Football League and of

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Speaker 4: course Fox Sports, NFL and college football. An let's get

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Speaker 4: to Ryan Music with the news.

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Speaker 2: No, no turn, this is the headline news, all right, Doug.

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Speaker 5: Jackson Dart, that's right.

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Speaker 6: The Giants first round pick quarterback out of Ole Miss

506
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Speaker 6: will make his NFL debut against the Bills tomorrow. Not

507
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Speaker 6: necessarily sure if he's gonna start, you know, sort of.

508
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Speaker 6: The messaging from Brian day Ball is that, like a

509
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Speaker 6: Russell Wilson maleak neighbors, some of those verified starters heading

510
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Speaker 6: into Week one are probably not going to see the field.

511
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Speaker 6: So we don't know if Jackson Dart's literally going to

512
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 6: start this game or if jameis Winston. So that remains

513
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Speaker 6: to be seen. But he will get some action, we

514
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Speaker 6: know that much. Here's what he said about it quote,

515
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Speaker 6: I'm just stokes for the opportunity. I hope I can

516
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Speaker 6: get every situation, go in, get reps, be on stage,

517
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Speaker 6: do it at a high level. I'm excited for this.

518
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Speaker 6: It's a dream of mine since I was a kid.

519
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Speaker 6: Jackson Dart, Doug, if I set the over under at

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Speaker 6: four four and a half starts.

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Speaker 5: This season over under.

522
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Speaker 4: Over.

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Speaker 6: Wow, So you think he's gonna get he's gonna start

524
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Speaker 6: a substantial amount of games.

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Speaker 4: Then who's the starting quarterback?

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Speaker 5: Well, Russell Wilson of course.

527
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Speaker 4: Okay, how many What's happened in the past couple of years? Right,

528
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Speaker 4: Like again, I could be it's not me. Okay, I

529
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Speaker 4: don't know, but Sean Payton was like, I'm done. Pittsburgs

530
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Speaker 4: hears like yeah, next, we would rather wait six months

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Speaker 4: on Aaron Rodgers, who we have no idea if he

532
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 4: still got it as opposed to that guy. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I just I don't see it.

534
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 5: Greg too broken with the truly believe that Brian Davill,

535
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 5: who's trying to keep his job, would not get Jackson

536
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 5: darting there sooner than later if it goes off the

537
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Speaker 5: rails early.

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Speaker 4: Oh again, I yeah, I think he gets them in

539
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Speaker 4: there as soon as possible, because at the end of

540
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 4: the day, you can go like, hey, look I got

541
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Speaker 4: a young guy here. You know, I got a young quarterback.

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Speaker 5: We got Rooie all right, So looking at their sting,

543
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 5: we all do we all do it?

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Speaker 4: Right? Like I mean, I didn't do it intentionally, but

545
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 4: the end of the year. Last year, I'm starting for

546
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Speaker 4: a freshmen and a sophomore. Six teams our league didn't

547
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Speaker 4: play a freshman a minute, right, Like, it starts to

548
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Speaker 4: go bad.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's pretty brutal for the Giants, who

550
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Speaker 6: are already coming off of what was a bad year.

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Speaker 6: They have Washington, Dallas Chiefs, Chargers, Saints, Eagles, Broncos, Eagles, Niners.

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Speaker 6: So I mean those first nine weeks, you know, the

553
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Speaker 6: Saints and then whatever you think of the Cowboys. But

554
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 6: outside of that, those are all playoff teams and elite

555
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 6: level playoff teams from last season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we don't know, we don't, but yes,

557
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Speaker 4: I mean on paper, the Eagles are gonna be.

558
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Speaker 6: Good, then the Chiefs are probably gonna be at least good,

559
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Speaker 6: Chiefs at.

560
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Speaker 5: The very least good, at least good Denver.

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Speaker 6: I know a lot of people are divided based off

562
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Speaker 6: of the schedule that they played last year, but I

563
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 6: think the expectation for most people is that they will

564
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 6: have a very good defense. Yeah yeah, so so you're

565
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Speaker 6: you're you're not wrong.

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Speaker 5: Bye.

567
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Speaker 6: By the week nine, week ten, if things are looking south,

568
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 6: we could probably get a second.

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Speaker 4: Seventeen games now to remember, like, I did get an

570
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Speaker 4: extra game?

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Speaker 5: Yeah he did, Yeah, he did, all right.

572
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Speaker 6: Sticking with the NFL, the Bengals in preseason action against

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Speaker 6: the Eagles offense looks sharp. You and Jeff Schortz chop

574
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Speaker 6: this up a little bit. Joe Burrow completing nine out

575
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Speaker 6: of ten passes two touchdowns. Now, look, no surprise that

576
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Speaker 6: Burrow would light it up in the preseason. But there's

577
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Speaker 6: two parts to this. Do you think getting these reps

578
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 6: in the preseason will have a positive impact for the

579
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Speaker 6: Bengals who have just been awful in September to start

580
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Speaker 6: the season with Burrow and head coach Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 4: I mean you actually answered the question before you let

582
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Speaker 4: me answer the question. Is it doesn't matter. They couldn't

583
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Speaker 4: have been any worse the whole way. Okay, why not

584
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Speaker 4: try charge this one? Right?

585
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 5: Sure?

586
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 4: Sure, It's like we've been bad, We've given away games

587
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 4: to inferior teams, and at the end of the year

588
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 4: we've come back going like damn, I wish we were better.

589
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 4: So they're like, all right, what if we play our

590
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 4: guys really, they get sharp and maybe we steal a

591
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 4: win here there That we couldn't in the past. I mean,

592
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 4: the big thing with them was their defense was just

593
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Speaker 4: a joke last year.

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Speaker 6: Right, And that sort of leads us to part number

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Speaker 6: two that I had mentioned, which is, again, it's all preseason,

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Speaker 6: and you know you're not all you're not playing all

597
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 6: your starters, whatever. But let it be known that against

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Speaker 6: the Eagles backups, the Bengals gave up thirty four points

599
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 6: and the defense did not look to put up anything

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Speaker 6: of substantial improvement over last year. So not not a

601
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Speaker 6: great showing for a team that's looking to try and

602
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Speaker 6: correct course there on missing out on the playoffs despite

603
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Speaker 6: Joe Burrow leading the league in basically every major passing

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Speaker 6: category last season.

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Speaker 4: Sure.

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Speaker 6: Sure, And finally we wrap up with this Doug the

607
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Speaker 6: forty nine ers it's was a bounce back season, or

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Speaker 6: they're hoping for it to be about bounce back season

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Speaker 6: after missing the playoffs and struggling with injuries in twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty four.

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Speaker 5: Well, here's the problem.

612
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Speaker 6: It appears that injury bug maybe hasn't quite moved out

613
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Speaker 6: of San Francisco yet. Their general manager, John Lynch, he says,

614
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Speaker 6: doesn't necessarily expect wide receiver Brandon I used to be

615
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Speaker 6: ready for Week one of the season. He also said

616
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Speaker 6: they currently don't have any timetable for return for their

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Speaker 6: other wide receiver, Juwan Jennings, who has a CAF injury.

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Speaker 6: So already some injury issues facing the forty nine ers

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Speaker 6: after last year's struggles that they had. Obviously, we hope

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Speaker 6: Christian McCaffrey stays healthy. He was banged up basically all season.

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Speaker 6: But some wide receiver injuries a problem.

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Speaker 5: For the forty niners.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean think, think about what's going wrong

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Speaker 4: for them, And of course now you have a quarterback

625
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Speaker 4: who has a gigantic contract, and so eventually the overall

626
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Speaker 4: surrounding talent won't be as good. That's Ryan Music with

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Speaker 4: the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: Heard Line News.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you've probably heard by now. You've heard by

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Speaker 4: now that that Diana Trossi has some interesting things to say.

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Speaker 4: dropping a new chicken sandwich. The all new pretzel cheddar

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Speaker 4: Club Sandwich will be on menus beginning August eighteenth. August eighteenth,

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Speaker 4: Why are you guys not happy about this? I got

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Speaker 4: a note that that that YouTube music you and two

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Speaker 5: No, I mean we were talking about it, and honestly,

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Speaker 5: like it's kind of like in and out Chick fil A.

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Speaker 5: It's like they do a couple of things really well

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Speaker 5: and they don't need to deviate from the plan.

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Speaker 6: With you with the way it is every time you've

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Speaker 6: I'm looking for this to be different or are you

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Speaker 6: just completely and thoroughly satisfied with exactly what you just got?

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, if you're watching on YouTube, you'll

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Speaker 4: see I have like four or of these I can get, yeah,

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Speaker 4: free sandwich or nugs. Whenever I got four of these

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Speaker 4: I just got when I went to work today was

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Speaker 4: that it's not in and out though it's not okay,

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Speaker 4: in and out is burger cheeseburger or double cheeseburger three

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Speaker 4: by three whatever, you know? So what's different about this?

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Speaker 4: They put it on a pretzel bun, right, that's reference.

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Speaker 5: And I like a pretzel bun.

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Speaker 6: But have you ever gone to Chick fil A and

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Speaker 6: been like, man, this sandwich needs work, Like they need

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Speaker 6: to change some stuff up.

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Speaker 4: Nor do I ever go like, you know, if the

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Speaker 4: bun was.

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Speaker 5: Better exactly one hundred percent, So what are we doing here?

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Speaker 4: Yeah we are, but that's kind of what we do

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Speaker 4: as a society. Well, like I know it's perfect, but

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Speaker 4: we're gonna make it more right.

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Speaker 6: But Chick fil A has already put their steak in

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Speaker 6: the ground that they don't bend to the whims of

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Speaker 6: those type of pressures, like they're like, dude, we are

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Speaker 6: not open on Sunday right period, that's it. And so

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Speaker 6: now they're starting to make tweaks to the menu, Like

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Speaker 6: I I don't get it.

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Speaker 4: They need tweaks that the tweaks have been They've had

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Speaker 4: some tweaks ongoing. This is the first bread tweak I

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Speaker 4: can remember. But they had the hot honey. Did they

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Speaker 4: have a hot honey there?

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Speaker 6: I don't think they don't know if they don't. They

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Speaker 6: have the various sauces which they've always had.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they've had a hot honey one. There's

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Speaker 4: they did, No, there's one. It's actually it was really good.

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Speaker 4: I had it early the summer, late in the spring.

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Speaker 4: I'm freaking good.

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Speaker 5: So but there there, but there here's here's here's perfect.

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Speaker 4: I don't so I don't they are so I don't.

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Speaker 4: There's there's not a ton of benefit. Like when you're

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Speaker 4: a head coach, I do I get my own room

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Speaker 4: on the road. That's amazing, that's awesome, right, And these

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Speaker 4: other guys you come downstairs, You're like, why are you

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Speaker 4: guys all grumpy? Like he snores, he's got a c

688
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Speaker 4: pat machine, he watches TV like way too loud at night,

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Speaker 4: Like they're all I was like, dude, I slept great

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Speaker 4: last night. I don't know what's up with you guys.

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Speaker 4: But I don't get the the The director of OPS

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Speaker 4: usually gets the hotel rewards points for the group.

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Speaker 5: That's that's the money.

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Speaker 4: One that's a that's an internationally known or nationally known

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Speaker 4: like the opsky gets to usually go use Marriott Miles

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Speaker 4: or whatever on a vacation just because that's like the

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Speaker 4: one benefit to it. It's usually Lois Bay guy on

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Speaker 4: the coaching Total pol. The one that I get is

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Speaker 4: because you know, we do there's a lot of buses

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Speaker 4: involved in at our level something or sometimes it's just

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Speaker 4: we land and we got to get something to equick,

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Speaker 4: so we do we do Chipotle or chick and I

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Speaker 4: get the points, so like cht, it's it's been a

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Speaker 4: Chipotle summer. Man. I'm just it's been good on all points.

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Speaker 4: It's the only plays I can save a little cash

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Speaker 4: there is on those Chipotle points.

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Speaker 6: In today's day and age, Doug, there are very few

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Speaker 6: things that are sacred and maintained morality, and Chick fil

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Speaker 6: A was one of our tenants and they are starting

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Speaker 6: to peer off.

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Speaker 5: Course, there's no need like you you go for the

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Speaker 5: spicy chicken.

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Speaker 4: We didn't need to coke. So what you said we

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Speaker 4: didn't need.

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Speaker 5: To, No, we absolutely did not. They mixed in and

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Speaker 5: off of fries. If you want a sweet tea cool

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Speaker 5: and if you're hungry for dessert, get an ice cream cone,

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Speaker 5: which is awesome too.

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Speaker 4: Can I vent it just for one second as the

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Speaker 4: they call it a sun Joy, right, it's the Arnold Palmer.

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Speaker 4: I guess they call it Sunjoy because you can't call

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Speaker 4: it Arnod Palmer right anyway? Can we please stop when

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Speaker 4: you go to a restaurant and I understand I've lived

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Speaker 4: in the Southwest or part of the South whatever, Just

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Speaker 4: Arnold Palmer's don't have vodka. That's a John day and

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Speaker 4: they don't have sweet tea. You know, they just don't. Sorry,

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you we're not hot.

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Speaker 5: We're not happy.

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Speaker 4: You're not happy. Not happy. Coming up next, I don't

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Speaker 4: think I don't think Dina Trosti knows what the WNBA

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Speaker 4: has mirrored as a business model for twenty five years.

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Speaker 4: I'll explain it next.

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Speaker 4: heard the Diana Tarasi sound. Right. Did Colin comment on

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Speaker 4: it or did he just stay away from it? I

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Speaker 4: don't remember, I do. I listened to Colin show every

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Speaker 4: day as I'm prepping for my show or as we're

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Speaker 4: having huh we did not. Yeah, So Diana Tarazi in

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Speaker 4: there's a new Amazon show or Amazon series if you will,

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Speaker 4: on the WNBA, and she talks about how she was

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Speaker 4: the best player in the world and in order to

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Speaker 4: make money she had to go to a communist country

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Speaker 4: and that back home she was making less than the janitor. Now,

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Speaker 4: I understand we all overstate things, right, I mean all

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Speaker 4: of our parents for years said, you know, back when

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Speaker 4: I was a kid, we used to walk barefoot to

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Speaker 4: school uphill both ways. Right, and so let's not even

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Speaker 4: get caught in the Hey, she was making like eighty

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Speaker 4: seven grand for three months, that's not exactly janitor money.

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Speaker 4: And oh yeah, by the way, in a fledgling league

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Speaker 4: when it was still kind of growing in the early stages,

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Speaker 4: maybe even before her. Obviously the women weren't weren't well compensated,

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Speaker 4: and the league had to kind of figure out how

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Speaker 4: to move out of the big NBA arenas into small arenas,

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Speaker 4: how to figure out ownership. There's there's lots of things.

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Speaker 4: Let's let's completely forget the fact that Russia is not

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Speaker 4: a communist country. Has it been a communist country since

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Speaker 4: the eighties early nineties? Paristroika crack a book. I get

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Speaker 4: it she was saying things for effect. But how does

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Speaker 4: it land on you? I'll tell you how it lands

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Speaker 4: on me. And and this is obviously it feels like jealousy.

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Speaker 4: And we have now we do have this from all

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Speaker 4: athletes that look at what athletes today make and they're like, well,

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Speaker 4: I would have made this. I mean we have in

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Speaker 4: college sports. How much would you guys in college sports

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Speaker 4: talking about all the time, what would you have made it?

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Speaker 4: Inn il, if you were on the market today, we

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Speaker 4: all do it. The difference is it's it's like venomous.

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Speaker 4: And I think the big part is that there's this

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Speaker 4: assumption that and and it's it's it's a real assumption.

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Speaker 4: Matt's actually no, an assumption, it's a we know this

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Speaker 4: is it. We know because we were women, we were

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Speaker 4: paid less. When the reality is that the NBA has

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Speaker 4: been around for one hundred years, it's it's mind blowing

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Speaker 4: that no one has sat there and gone like, hey,

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Speaker 4: you know when the until the eighties, many NBA players

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Speaker 4: had jobs in the offseason. You go back to the forties, fifties, sixties, seventies,

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Speaker 4: guys would have jobs in the offseason. Why because they

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Speaker 4: didn't make any money? Why because this just wasn't money.

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Speaker 4: Was like the league was keeping all the money. In

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Speaker 4: nineteen eighty one nineteen eight one, my dad was at university,

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Speaker 4: was Consin Milwaukee's head coach. They went to Division III.

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Speaker 4: He took the year off and then eventually went to

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Speaker 4: Lombie State. During that year off, my grandpa was a

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Speaker 4: car dealer on Long Island, but he was an accountant

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Speaker 4: who took over the car dealership. That's how so my

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Speaker 4: dad got the one. The new Jersey nets were for

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Speaker 4: sale for one million dollars and my grandpa every the accountant,

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Speaker 4: looked at the books and said, this is a terrible investment.

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Speaker 4: No thanks, now one million dollars then is you know

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Speaker 4: a couple hundred million dollars now, but still it's the

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Speaker 4: idea it was a bad investment. So Diane Trussey has

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Speaker 4: no idea the history of the NBA and the truth

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Speaker 4: is that a fledgeling league is just like any other

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Speaker 4: fledgling business. Eighty five percent of businesses closed their doors

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Speaker 4: within the first couple of years. It wasn't like owners

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Speaker 4: were getting rich and sneezing with one hundred dollars bills,

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Speaker 4: like what world were they living in? But a lack

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Speaker 4: of knowledge of who they were and what they are now,

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Speaker 4: and this gift that they've been given with the rise

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Speaker 4: of stardom by Caitlin Clark is just We're going to

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Speaker 4: look back in twenty five years and I don't know

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Speaker 4: what happens to the WNBA. I don't It feels like

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Speaker 4: they're walking into the same traps as every other professional

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Speaker 4: sports league that gets some stardom. The NHL, when Wayne

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Speaker 4: Gretzky came to La over expand and then all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden, you have to kind of backtrack and regroup.

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Speaker 4: And the NHL's in a good place now, but it

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Speaker 4: wasn't always that way. The NBA's in a good place

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Speaker 4: wasn't always that way.

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Speaker 3: It was not.

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Speaker 4: Heck, even the NFL go back into the early nineties

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Speaker 4: not always a great place. You hear those words in

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Speaker 4: the venom behind it, and it's not exactly making you likable.

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Speaker 4: And the weird part about it is when usually when

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Speaker 4: superstars get done playing, she is a superstar. There's no

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Speaker 4: doubt about her. She's arguably or maybe inarguably the greatest

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Speaker 4: player of all time. Usually they soften over times. All right,

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Speaker 4: Shador Sanders tonight. I'm sure Colin will have comments. So

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Speaker 4: I check out the Doug Gottlieb show. It follows this show.

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