WEBVTT - Drive Time: Hidden Gems and Austin Clark Developing the Defensive Line 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:11.320 What is up, Dolphins, and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:13.920 I am your host, Travis Wingfield, And on today's show, 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.000 we're gonna talk about the defensive line, but not the players, 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.919 a look into the work coach Austin Clark has done 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:22.880 as the longest tenured coach on the staff. Right now, 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:24.840 we'll talk to some of the players about him and 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.800 his track record of dominant defensive lines and their development 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:31.479 and how that can be a hidden gem for the 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.080 Miami Dolphins here in twenty twenty five. Speaking of hidden 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:36.680 gems and the coaching staff and the roster, we're gonna 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:39.159 get into some players that could make a push this 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:42.479 camp and this summer and spring, I should say, to 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:44.839 change the way you think about them and the Dolphins 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:47.240 roster in general. So we'll do all of that in 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:48.959 a heck of a lot more from the Baptist Health 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.360 Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.600 This is the Draft Time Podcast. 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.080 I wanted to start this show with a bit of 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:03.040 a roster review, but not in the sense of the 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:04.039 one that we just did. 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.000 What was that two or three weeks ago. 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.000 I want to take a look at where I think 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.959 some of the hidden gems on the roster exist and 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.000 how that factors into the perception of certain parts of 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:17.399 the roster and the football team as a whole. And 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:21.120 I always feel like this is almost like a social 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:25.400 engineering project, stuff like this, and shoot, I'll take it 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:28.759 a step further. We celebrated my beautiful baby girl's fifth 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:33.039 birthday this past weekend, and by the way, the unicorn 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.319 outfit she was wearing cutest thing I've ever seen in 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:37.880 my entire life. But after all the unicorns and princesses 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.240 and barbies and makeup kits and cupcakes faded, we had 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:44.240 ourselves a nice little lazy Sunday. And what a perfect 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:46.920 sunday to be lazy on with the PGA championship, my 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.600 Seattle Mariners playing for a sweep in San Diego in 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.880 first place in the American League West, which they achieved. 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.480 Both those things and a pair of game sevens combing 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:58.640 with a big Carolina Panthers win almost got those quick. 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:02.000 Aside from that, did you guys see Brad Marshawn talk 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:05.440 about the pressure that the Leaves feel every year and 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:09.359 the culpability of the fans and media. I think it's 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:10.840 worth noting that as I take a sip of my 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.519 coffee here well, t year, it's supposed to beak to you, 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.160 but it's coffee. I just have to say, I think 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.440 that you're a little bit crazy if you don't think 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:21.840 fans and media are part of the problem in some 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:25.000 of these places. I'm not saying anything particular about where, 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.360 but I do think it has an impact. And during 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:31.040 this lazy Sunday, I found myself going through the entirety 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.480 of the twenty twenty five NFL schedule week by week, 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.160 and I always look for the windows where the Dolphins 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.200 aren't playing, because for me, that's when I get a 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:40.320 chance to be a fan. Right. I do about half 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:43.280 the pregame shows on iHeart this last season I did, 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:44.959 I'll probably do about the same number of this year, 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.560 and that puts me on air two hours before kickoff. 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:49.920 I do all the postgame shows, which is two hours 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:53.080 after the clock Hitch triple zeros in the Dolphins game, 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:56.080 and then it's time for the postgame recap podcast. And 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:59.399 all in all, if we play at one o'clock on Sunday, 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.760 I make at home just in time for a kickoff 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:03.920 of Sunday Night Football. So Sunday Night Football is a 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.720 very a very treasured part of my weekend schedule every 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:09.960 single week in the fall. But when we play at 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:13.040 four h five or four twenty five, I get to 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.400 watch maybe the first quarter of the early window game kickoffs. 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:18.640 If it's at the stadium here at hard Rock, I 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:20.600 have to drive. I have to get here like two 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:22.680 or three hours early, so I usually miss most of that. 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.400 If it's at the radio station, I can watch about 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.200 half the game. The whole point is I only get 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.240 to watch full football games most of the time if 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.360 we're playing at one o'clock on Sunday night football. This 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:36.040 creates an urgency and an importance of the primetime slots 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.320 for me as a football fan, and I'm weird. I 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:41.760 don't merely look for good games. I want good games 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:43.880 that are going to have a rooting interest for me. 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:45.520 And the only thing I care about rooting four in 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.760 terms of how these games go is what it does 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:51.200 to the Miami Dolphins. I usually, or rather I should say, 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.040 I used to really care about like my takes. Like 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.120 I remember when Tannehill left here being very invested in 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.480 the Titans, because I told Dolphins fans that Titan Tannehill 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.240 was a lot better than gave him credit for, and 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.040 they went pretty far a couple of years in a row, 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:04.280 and he had a couple of really good years there 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.520 with the Titans. Or when Mahomes was coming out of 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.800 Texas Tech, he was my guy and I thought the 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.320 Chiefs would do pretty well with him, or Kyler Murray 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:13.160 with the Cardinals was probably one of the biggest ones. 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:16.040 I'll never forget those debates back in twenty nineteen. But 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.240 now I don't care. I just want to watch, Like 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.000 maybe it's cynicism, maybe it's old age. 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:24.560 Maybe it's having more. 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:28.200 Of a valued life outside of like your hobby right 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:32.520 watching football, like with family and stuff. But I just 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.080 don't have the same emotional attachment to a lot of 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.640 sports anymore. The Dolphins are in a class of their own, 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:41.680 but when I watch, I don't know even the heat like, 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:43.720 and I know this is a bad year for it. 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:47.120 I just can't really be bothered to get like moved 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:50.720 by the outcome of games unless it impacts the Dolphins 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.359 or the Mariners are pretty good in that regard. But 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.240 I used to be like, man, the marriage had a 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.320 two run bomb, I'm jumping and fist pumping out of 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.080 my chair but now I'm just like, sweet, yeah, good, 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.359 we needed that. I don't I just don't get emotional anymore. 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.120 But if it impacts the Dolphins, I really really care. Like, 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.120 for instance, we get that Chiefs and Chargers game in 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:10.880 Week one on Friday, right that Friday night post season 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.440 opener game, I guess after the Eagles and Cowboys, like 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.200 I feel pretty confident and the Chiefs winning that division 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.719 this year, so there's a decent chance the Chargers are 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.200 in direct competition with us for a playoff spot or 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:24.800 playoff positioning. And while maybe like Eagles and Commanders is 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.600 a better game than Chiefs and Chargers, give me the 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:30.680 AFC matchup all day long. So this is I promise 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.719 this whole point's going somewhere. And then when we play 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:37.240 on Monday or Thursday, those Sunday one o'clock and four 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.800 thirty windows, oh buddy, you talk about valuable. That Sunday 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.440 one o'clock kickoff, when my dollars watching a YouTube show 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:45.480 and my son goes down for a nap, like that 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.000 is ultimate football fan time for me, where I don't 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:49.919 get a lot of that time during the season, but 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:54.880 those kickoffs they have to deliver because those are sacred 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:58.000 timeslots when the Dolphins aren't playing on Sunday afternoons, and 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.360 just looking at those there are some ten actually amazing 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:04.560 Sunday slates when we don't play on that particular Sunday. 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:05.039 So I was. 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:06.880 It got to the point to where I'm looking at 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.960 the schedules on my couch while my wife is making 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.800 the make your own snow globe gift whatever the hell 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.240 my daughter got for the million gifts that she got, 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.960 and I just say out loud, I gotta say, honey, 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.159 I'm ready for the football. She's gonna get here, and 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.120 she's like, really, I'm not. And that's not always been 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.680 the case. Like I don't enjoy wishing away my summer 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:28.520 with all the golf and the swimming and the beach 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:30.880 and the family time that I get. We're busy people, 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.760 but I'm happy to let the calendar unfold naturally most 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.520 of the time. But for some reason, I'm just ready 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.359 for this year to get here. And I think, and 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.640 I can be a contrarian, I'm guilty of that by 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.960 by a million times, but I think it's the concept 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.040 that in the past we had expectations and lofty goals 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.760 and now there's this like perception or expectation that the 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:53.920 team's not going to be very good this year. And 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:57.320 while I don't believe that's one hundred percent accurate, I 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.719 can see where certain concerns would creep in. And there's 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:01.480 certain parts of the roster that are worse than they 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.359 were last year. But there's parts of the roster that 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.560 are better than they were last year too. And for 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:07.800 I don't know how long, right, I mean, you can 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.440 you all can tell me. We always heard like the 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.880 offensive line was the one area that neglected and it 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:14.320 was the only thing that mattered on the team, right 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.680 nothing else matters. Well, they didn't neglect it this year. 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.600 They signed a big money free agent, and they used 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:20.760 a premium draft pick to shore up the weakest spot 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.040 on the offensive line last year, and they have a 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.160 second round pick from last year filling in for the 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:29.720 guy that retired, along with two pricey veteran contracts and 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:33.559 Aaron Brewer and Austin Jackson, albeit not pricey considering their 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:35.600 position across the rest of the league. But they're not 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.280 cheap players. They're not, like, you know, replacement level contracts, 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.240 is what I'm trying to say. So they invested in that, 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:44.320 and I think that that's a reason for optimism, and 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.480 I'm not sure why it's being forgotten about so much 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.080 when I've been told for so long that if we 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:49.280 keep to a healthy and have a. 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:50.840 Good offensive line, we're going to be okay. And I 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:51.560 do believe in that. 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:54.320 But I like being a little bit more under the 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:56.120 radar and kind of being able to say, like, hey, 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:57.960 you guys are wrong this time. And you know, I've 0:07:57.960 --> 0:07:59.760 been wrong plenty of times as well. But the last 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.800 couple of seasons we were pretty front and clear and 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:04.720 pretty front and center in terms of the perception of 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.280 where the Dolphins are going to be come playoff time. 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.320 And shoot, if you want to take the league's perception 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.960 into account, there's only three teams that have more primetime games, 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:14.120 and there's a bunch of teams that have the same 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.840 number of primetime games. But they've got us in four 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:21.240 standalone windows the NFL does after Week eight, so the 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.200 second half of the season they expect us to be 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:26.320 in the mix. Another tangent I came to realize in 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.840 this discussion as I was telling him, Now, half other 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:34.079 spots are are sports. Other sports are very localized, right, 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:38.120 like baseball. Shoot, every broadcast is regionalized. I watched my Mariners, 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.280 I watched the Heat, but I couldn't tell you the 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:44.320 last time I watched a regular season MLB or NBA 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.160 game that wasn't my team. I just could not be 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:50.199 bothered to do that. It's not that way in football 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.199 at all. But I do think there are a lot 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.719 of fans that just watch their team, or at least 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.880 a very small percentage of fans that really know the 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:00.520 rest of the league the way they know their own 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.000 team on the level of a Kyle Crabs for instance, 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:04.880 or myself. I spend a lot of time doing this. 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.800 It's my job, so I would I would kind of 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:09.400 think I was a failure if I didn't know the 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:10.520 entire league pretty well. 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:10.800 Right. 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.200 And the reason I say all of this, I don't 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.160 know at what point along the line this happened for me, 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.400 but I feel like it used to be widely accepted 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.480 that the salary cap meant you were pretty unlikely to 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.920 go into a season with proven solutions at every single position. 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.000 Because this is not Alabama or Georgia or Ohio State, 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.480 where I have three five star recruits at left tackle 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:34.920 ready to rock and roll if something happens to my starter. 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.520 Like the reason the dominant young quarterback on the rookie 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.079 contract is such a cheat code is because it frees 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.120 up your resources to attempt to build Alabama at the 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.920 pro level. Like the Commanders don't have to pay Jadeen 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:49.320 Daniels for what at least two more years that he's 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.800 not even eligible for a new contract until till twenty 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.880 twenty seven, so they can spend crazy wherever they want. Really, 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.720 and this doesn't guarantee a damn thing, does it. The 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.640 Niners just enjoyed the fruits of that labor to the 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:03.800 nth degree. We're talking about jade and Daniels being the 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.480 second overall pick in the draft, like brock Purdy was 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.440 like two fifty, so he was way down there and 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.520 made nothing for four years, and what do they get 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.040 to speak of that? No titles? Now, I feel like 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.079 that's a really disingenuous way to, you know, portray that 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:20.920 the way they played the last four years the Niners 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:22.959 have been I would sign up for that success for 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:24.600 the next four years of the Dolphins in a heartbeat. 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.160 I would love to go to two Super Bowls and 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:29.840 play in conference championship games every year. Give me that 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:31.960 tomorrow if I can sign up for it right now. 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:35.520 But now they're gonna pay party. They just paid Party 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.800 and they have to start shaving salary elsewhere, which leads 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:42.720 to the loss of Deebo, Samuel, Javon Hargrave. 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.679 Who else did they lose? Javarius Ward? You know, I 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:48.400 lost some dudes. 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:50.920 And trust me, you'd rather pay for the quarterback than 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.440 not have the quarterback to pay at all. That seems 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:54.840 like a given to me, But some of the stuff 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:56.360 I read on Twitter makes me think that that's not 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.080 necessarily as given as you might think. I feel like 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:02.439 some some fans would rather have the Saints quarterback situation 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.960 right now over ours, not I. And you can even 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:08.080 point to recent champions or Super Bowl losers for that matter, 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:09.800 which again, if you go to the Super Bowl, you 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:10.720 had a successful season. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:11.560 I don't care who you are. 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.120 The twenty twenty Chiefs, it was mostly injuries, right, but 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.520 it was a pretty decimated offensive line to the point 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.000 that they decided we're gonna trade Tyreek Hill and go 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.920 attack the offensive line. And what's been their bugaboo for 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:23.720 the last three years. If they have one, they don't 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.120 really have one, But if you had to pick one, 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:28.600 they don't have enough weapons around Patrick Mahomes. He went 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.640 from the highest average depth of target in the league 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:32.920 for the last and then too the last two years 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.280 one of the lowest in the entire National Football League. 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.120 We don't have to relitigate all of this, but I'll 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.400 do one more. The Bills, the Buffalo Bills f the 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:41.920 Bills man. 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:46.040 Ask Bills fans about their cornerbacks right now or going 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.199 into last year. No way they can approve upon twenty 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.280 twenty three with that wide receiver corps, right. But all 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.480 they did was when the most games they ever have 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:58.160 in the Josh Allen era, well, actually they matched the 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.000 twenty twenty total. They won thirteen season games that year. 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.600 They won two in the postseason, fifteen wins. But you 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.360 get the point, and a big part of the reason 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:07.680 for that that they won thirteen games in a couple 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.559 of playoff games and we're a fourth quarter away against 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.160 the Chiefs from going to the Super Bowl for the 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.120 first time since the nineties. They focused on the players 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.040 that make the Buffalo Bills better, not just acquiring talent. 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:20.280 Let's get the right pieces in here. And a big 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.120 part of that would you have ever guessed this was 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.240 to reduce the number of times that Josh Allen put 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.520 the ball in the air. He went from he had 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:31.800 the fewest passing attempts per game this year since his 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.800 rookie season back in twenty eighteen. He went from six 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.200 hundred and forty six pass attempts in twenty twenty one 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.480 down to five sixty seven in twenty twenty two to 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.959 twenty three, throwing five to seventy nine, so bit of 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.040 a jump there, and then all the way down to 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:49.040 four eighty three, one hundred fewer attempts in the previous 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.560 season last year. My point is what you see on paper, 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.520 it's not meaningless, but there is so much more context 0:12:56.600 --> 0:13:00.400 required to understand who's going to be good and who 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.040 was not in the NFL. And with that it takes 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.679 us into our segment. That took me fifteen minutes to 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.160 get into the whole spiel here, but will pause first 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.480 because the setup took the entire segment. I'm going to 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.720 come back on the other side and talk about some 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:16.480 potential hidden gems that can help flip perception with their 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.960 play come September. That's next Draft Time podcast, brought to 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:20.880 you by AutoNation. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:27.120 All right, So I have broken out the what do 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:27.800 I call this thing? 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.840 My color coordinated ninety man roster that used to be 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.120 on the whiteboard back in the Lockdown days. Now it's 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:34.959 an award document, so not quite as pretty, but I 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.280 can talk about it here on the show. So I've 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.400 plugged in all the rookies, all the udfas. I kept 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.600 his camp body level contributors, because you just can't, like, 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.560 you can't really forecast that. I think it's disingenuous to 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.679 say that, oh, Jalen Conyor is going to be tied 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.640 into this year, like I might think that, but I'm 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:52.000 not going to put him there until he does it, 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:55.559 So keep that in mind. I have some probably assessments 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.720 that you would disagree with in terms of being too lofty. 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.640 I'm probably more down on some guys then some folks 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.160 might be. So let's just go ahead and roll through. 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.320 So i've you guys in the drill by now. Blue 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.200 is the cornerstone player. Green is the plus starter, which 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.640 is like a pro Bowl potential player. Orange is the 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:11.600 adequate starter who's not a pro bowler, but he's better 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.120 than like league average, And you can like having him 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:15.959 in your lineup doesn't make you any worse. That's the 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:17.960 kind of like range you're looking for here. And then 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.840 you've got quality depth or special teams. As a purple player, 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.560 replacement level means I can slot anybody in there and 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:25.840 be okay with it, and that's pink. And then red 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:27.800 is the camp body, which means I expect you to 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:29.400 be cut or that I don't think it can play. 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.080 And then the black demarcation just means you're incomplete for 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:36.720 injury reasons or you're too young, like Taj Washington's is 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:40.240 on the black category because he has one year under 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.280 his belt and he missed up to an injury, so 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.280 we can't count on that as some proven commodity. So 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:47.480 you guys know, I have Tongua bay Loa as a 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.360 blue player, I've got Wilson as replacement level, and yours 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.640 is in the red category. So the backup position still 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.160 is a little bit unknown to me. You're up in 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.240 the air. But I think two was a cornerstone franchise quarterback. 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.960 I mean, I think it's obvious, but it's clearly not 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:05.840 across like Twitter. But whatever running back position, I got 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:09.000 eight Chan as a plus starter, right, he's got to 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:10.840 prove it more, but he's an adequate startut to meet 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.440 right now. And then I've got Gordon and Madison as 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.720 quality depth, with Ingold in that same category. And then 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.520 the rookie Knol I'm not going to talk about all 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:20.320 the undrafted rekies. They're all going to be read okay 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.760 in that camp body, but I'm not calling him camp bodies. 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:24.520 I'm just saying like they've got to, you know, come 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:26.640 with it and prove it. I still have Hill and 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.280 Waddle as cornerstone wide receivers. I think they're two of 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.680 the best players in the game, regardless of how last 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.600 year went or what you think about the way they 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.200 you know, didn't the way Ten didn't play for his 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:38.160 team the right way, like whatever you want to say 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:41.000 about it. That the talent is all still very much there. 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.960 I've got Westbrook A. Kine is an adequate starter. Malik Washington, 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:45.920 I've got him at quality depth, but he's right there 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:52.840 like kind of pressing up towards that orange indicator. What's 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.520 the word I'm looking for here? And then I've got 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.480 d S. Gridges as quality depth as well. And the 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.120 rest of the room is red or black and then 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.000 the tight ends, I've got Jonah Smith as a plus. 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.120 I think Farrell Brown I might be bumping him to 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:03.920 Orange here pretty soon, but been watching him out there 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:05.760 kind of run around, and he looks like he has 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:07.920 some juice. I'm kind of kind of excited to see 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:09.960 Faraoh Brown, but for right now, he's in the purple category. 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.120 Julian Hill Pink and the replacement level, and then the 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.280 rest is red because they're all unproven. And then offensive tackle, 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.720 I've got Paul's adequate starter. When I expect that to 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.320 go up this year, I'm not gonna do it yet 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.160 because that would be disingenuous to the process, but I 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:24.400 think that he has the opportunity to really slide in 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.600 that direction. And then Austin Jackson is easily in the 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.040 green category for me, probably closer to Blue than he 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:30.920 is to Orange, but I know he's not a cornerstone player, 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:32.920 but he's a very very good player. And then I've 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.360 got a kind of unknown for Keon Smith and Larry 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.040 Boorhum his quality depth. And then the rest of the 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.680 room is red. And then interior. All three of my 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:44.080 guys are plus starters, and that's look Jonahs gosh, so 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.240 vite naya. Gosh, take me a minute to get back 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.920 to that. I just believe in his game. I was 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:50.520 big on him in the process. I was big on 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.000 James Daniels. If I back off that now, then what's 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:55.240 the point of the freaking podcast Back in February. I 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:58.000 think Aaron Brewer is close to blue. He's gonna He's 0:16:58.000 --> 0:16:59.920 gonna stay green for now, but one more year like last, 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.040 he'll go into the blue category. He's a Pro Bowl 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.639 freaking player on the interior defensive line. We have a 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:06.720 Blue Chipper, Zach Steeler. He's one of our four blue 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.840 Chips with Tua and Hill and Waddle. And I've already 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:13.080 got Grant in the same category as Sabi nayavit naya. 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.720 Jesus shoot, I'm gonna leave it in. 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:21.000 That was the podcast Live unfiltered and me accidentally saying 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:22.840 one bad word and then coming up with the worst 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:23.760 word that I had to bleep out. 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:24.280 So there you go. 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:29.520 But Jonah savite naya man. Golly, but that's where I've got. 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.680 That's where I've got Kenneth Grant. I think he's right 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:34.320 in that category as well. So I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.560 roll with that and in fact, like not to you know, 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.320 not that he hears this or anyone's gonna put pressure 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.879 on Kenneth Grant because the Drivetime podcast said, but like, 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.000