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Speaker 1: Hi everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading The

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Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast. The Simpsons addition, as the Bengals head

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Speaker 1: to Dallas for a Monday night football game that will

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Speaker 1: include a Simpsons themed alternate telecast. Coming up, I'll talk

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Networks Brian Baldinger about Burrow Chase and

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Speaker 1: how to improve the Bengals defense. In our Nova Faux segment,

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Speaker 1: we'll get the lowdown on the Cowboys from Todd Archer,

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Speaker 1: who covers the team for ESPN, and I'll do a

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Speaker 1: story time with Dan this week to explain why there

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Speaker 1: the greatest thing since lists. I am a sucker for lists.

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Speaker 1: Every time I see something online like the Rolling Stones

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Speaker 1: five hundred Greatest Albums of All Time or Variety's one

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Speaker 1: hundred Greatest Movies of All Time, I can't help myself.

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Speaker 1: I click the link and spend way too much time

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Speaker 1: studying the list. I suppose the appeal is seeing how

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Speaker 1: it compares to our own. In this case, both lists

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Speaker 1: are wrong. The Rolling Stones number one album of all

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Speaker 1: time is Marvin Gaye's What's going On? To that? I say,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? The correct answer is obviously Stevie Wonder's

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Speaker 1: Songs in the Key of Life, which checked in at

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Speaker 1: number four. Varieties number one movie of all time is Psycho,

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Speaker 1: which might not be in my top fifty. My personal favorite,

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Speaker 1: which is correct, came in at number nineteen. Godfather Too.

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Speaker 1: Now time to get to football and my first guest,

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Speaker 1: it is always great to talk football with our guy,

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Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger from the NFL Network, And if you're like me,

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Speaker 1: you love Baldi's breakdowns on social media. Baldia did run

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Speaker 1: this week on Joe Burrow after the Pittsburgh game. Is

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Speaker 1: he playing as well as any quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he is. You know, Joe basically all year. You know,

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Speaker 2: I remember seeing him before that first Baltimore game week

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Speaker 2: in order to win. He didn't mean you had to

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Speaker 2: you know, around the team and the injuries they had

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Speaker 2: like to have a couple of fumbles back last week,

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Speaker 2: but you know, I mean when you've got to drop

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Speaker 1: Let me talk about some of his traits with you,

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Speaker 1: ball placement, toughness, feel in the pocket. What makes you

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Speaker 1: say wow when you put together those bal of these

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Speaker 2: But I don't even know if those words really define

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Speaker 2: it well enough because of just because it is it

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Speaker 2: is something that and I've talked to Tom Brady about this,

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Speaker 2: It's something you can't coach what he has. You can't

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Speaker 2: don't know that anybody's just sat down and taught him

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Speaker 1: Then there's Jamar Chase. He's at a pace for more

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Speaker 1: How does Jamar do it? Considering that every defense the

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Speaker 2: Well, he plays with a great deal of awareness. First

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Speaker 2: so he sees things. Because what we see Dan, you

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Speaker 1: me ask you about another Chase Chase Brown. He's averaging

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, there was a big, you know, big concern,

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Speaker 2: Zach and Zach, you know, had the injury. But Chase

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Speaker 2: He had an excellent game against Pittsburgh. Uh, and then

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Speaker 1: The defense has obviously had its struggles. What do you

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Speaker 2: Well, pass rush, Dan, I mean pass rush. I mean

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Speaker 2: so I would say it's got to start there. I

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Joseph Osai and Chris Jenkins. There are some

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Speaker 2: Of the season.

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Speaker 1: How important do you think it is for the Bengals

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Speaker 1: to see what they have with those young defensive players.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's huge. You know, Loo's gonna evaluate everything, you know,

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Speaker 2: the organization has to evaluate this to see just what

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Speaker 1: Despite some of those things that you mentioned. The Cowboys

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Speaker 2: Well, they found a way to beat Washington. You know,

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Speaker 2: I always say Dan at the end at the beginning

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Speaker 2: Cowboys got that against Washington. But I thought on Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: they ran the ball really well. Rico Dado I thought

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Speaker 2: a really good job. Brock Hoffman is a backup right

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Speaker 2: like he's done a good job of doing that. And

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Speaker 2: everything changed. Demarvia On Overshown is a young linebacker that's

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Speaker 2: got tremendous speed. It shows up, but you know, Mica

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Speaker 2: everybody on defense the last couple of weeks look a

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Speaker 1: Final thing for our friend, Brian Baldinger. You've been at

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Speaker 1: some Bengals games this year, include the Kansas City game

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Speaker 1: in Week two, when the Bengals seemingly had it wrapped

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Speaker 1: up until they gave up that penalty on fourth and

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Speaker 1: sixteen with less than a minute ago. Is this team

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Speaker 1: the perfect example in twenty twenty four of the thin

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Speaker 1: one that's disappointing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're four and eight right now, Dan, and

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Speaker 2: they could easily easily be seven and five, easily be

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Speaker 2: seven and five or more. But I mean the first

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Speaker 2: Baltimore game, the Kansas City game. You know, it's it

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Speaker 2: comes down to a play. I know Zach talks about

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Speaker 2: make it? But that's that's what's missing. Either the other

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Speaker 2: or Cincinnati has not been able to make a play

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Speaker 2: in a key spot. And it's the separation between Winley

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Speaker 1: You've got a really busy schedule and you always make

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Speaker 1: of the Bengals. Now time for this week's Know the

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Speaker 1: Faux Segment. Like the Bengals, the Cowboys had high expectations

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Speaker 1: Game Plan Show. Are you surprised the Bengals are favored?

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Speaker 5: If I remember he's eighty two. Because you want to

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Speaker 6: Look.

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Speaker 5: new dynamic kickoff deal, and he's been dynamic. He's he

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Speaker 5: reached twenty two miles an hour I think in that

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Speaker 5: ninety nine yard kickoff against or twenty one and twenty

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Speaker 5: one nine or something like that, and that kickoff against

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Speaker 5: Washington where he did.

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Speaker 2: The spin move.

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Speaker 5: He's he's a guy that's dynamic with the ball in

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Speaker 5: his hand, and they're trying to find different ways to

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Speaker 5: get the ball in his hands. Uh, even on offense

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Speaker 5: at receiver as well, sometimes even lining him up in

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Speaker 5: the backfield.

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Speaker 4: All Right, Tyler got another thing that jumped out at

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Speaker 4: me red zone in the twilight zone offensively thirty first

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Speaker 4: in the NFL and touchdown percentage defensively thirty second in

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Speaker 4: the NFL. Touchdown percentage, teams have scored uh ninety four

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Speaker 4: point nine percent of the time when they get in

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Speaker 4: the red zone touchdown or field goal against Dallas thirtieth

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Speaker 4: in the league. They've only scored seventy one point nine

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Speaker 4: percent of the time touchdown or field goal, thirty first

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Speaker 4: in the league. How come the red zones? Twilight zone?

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Speaker 5: Tell me who scares your offensively?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Right beside ceedee Lamb right, and then the game's Yeah,

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Speaker 5: he's the only guy. Jakes Ferguson's a good tide and

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Speaker 5: he's missed the last couple of games with a concussion.

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Speaker 5: He was slowed early with a knee injury. He's the

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Speaker 5: guy that can make some plays down there for you,

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Speaker 5: But they really don't have a lot of guys that

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Speaker 5: can scare you in the red zone. Brandon Cooks had

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Speaker 5: a red zone touchdown last week against the Giant. Has

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Speaker 5: a lot of speed where he can get you on

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Speaker 5: crossers and things, so we'll see if that continues with

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Speaker 5: him being backed. Lamb should play, although he's been battling

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Speaker 5: his shoulder injury. Ferguson's expected back from that concussion, But yeah,

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Speaker 5: they just don't have a lot and they One thing

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Speaker 5: Bill Parcells said when I was covering the Cowboys here

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Speaker 5: was the best red zone teams are the ones that

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Speaker 5: can run the ball into the end zone. Well they

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Speaker 5: can't and they haven't. And you mentioned four rushing touchdowns

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Speaker 5: in the league, so they get behind it as soon

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Speaker 5: as you get in the red zone. They might have

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Speaker 5: a penalty although a negative player or something like that.

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Speaker 5: So it's been bad all year and I look at it.

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Speaker 5: In the last two games, they're four for seven and

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Speaker 5: scoring touchdowns inside the red zones, so it's actually been

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Speaker 5: better than what it had been all year. But there's

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Speaker 5: too many games with no touchdowns with multiple red zone attempts,

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Speaker 5: and that's really been the big difference in this offense,

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Speaker 5: which the year ago led the league in scoring at

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Speaker 5: more than twenty nine points. Now they're eight points below

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Speaker 5: that going into this game. So it's been a struggle

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Speaker 5: everywhere and offense.

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Speaker 4: Final question, sir, appreciate your time and your expertise. Thirty

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Speaker 4: four quarterback sacks for the Dallas Cowboy defense. Parsons got

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Speaker 4: six and a half the injuries you're talking about. It's

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Speaker 4: been a factor there. But they've got six different players

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Speaker 4: with three or more sacks. The Bengals, you know, they

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Speaker 4: got Trey Hendrickson with eleven and a half, but nobody

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Speaker 4: else with more than two. Is it? Is it Mike

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Speaker 4: Zimmer's scheme? Is it talent across the board? Where so

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Speaker 4: many people are contributing three or more sacks with only

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Speaker 4: twelve games into the season. I mean, that's a that's

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Speaker 4: a pretty impressive number.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny.

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Speaker 5: One of those guys with three, it's to Marcus Lawrence,

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Speaker 5: and as I mentioned, he's not played in September, so

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Speaker 5: it's I would say it's a lot of it is

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Speaker 5: Zimmer's scheme and the pressure that he's been able to

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Speaker 5: get in the free runners. He's been able to get

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Speaker 5: on on quarterbacks with not just the double a gap

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Speaker 5: stuff that you guys know that he loves to do,

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Speaker 5: but just kind of overloading offensive lines and and getting

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Speaker 5: pre hits on quarterbacks that he's been really good there.

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Speaker 5: But honestly, that number is really kicked up since Michael

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Speaker 5: Parson has been back, and he's the guy that, yeah,

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Speaker 5: everybody's got to account for him. And sometimes that doesn't

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Speaker 5: even matter because the kids athletically so gifted that he

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Speaker 5: can just kind of do whatever he wants again to

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Speaker 5: however many blockers he has. But one guy I think

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Speaker 5: you guys will like to see on Monday is the

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Speaker 5: marve On Overshown, second year kid out of Texas. He

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Speaker 5: had a pick six for a touchdown last week. He

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Speaker 5: also what a sack. I think I want to read

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Speaker 5: this and make sure I get it right. He's only

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Speaker 5: the third Cowboy since eighty two to have the least

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Speaker 5: five sacks, an interception, of fumble recovery, and a forced fumble.

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Speaker 5: The other two guys in team history do that are

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Speaker 5: DeMarcus Ware and Greg Ellis. I'm not saying he's DeMarcus Ware,

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Speaker 5: but he has an athleticism and a burst and a

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Speaker 5: jump to his game that honestly reminds me of Where

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Speaker 5: and a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit of Parsons.

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Speaker 5: He's the guy I think you guys enjoy watching on

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Speaker 5: Monday thanks to.

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Speaker 1: Todd Archer, who does an outstanding job of covering the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys for ESPN. Finally, on Monday night, you'll have three

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Speaker 1: options for watching the game on TV. The regular ESPN

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Speaker 1: tele with Joe Buck and Troy Aikman, the Manning Cast

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Speaker 1: with Peyton and Eli on ESPN two, and an alternate

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Speaker 1: telecast on Disney Plus and ESPN Plus called The Simpson's

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Speaker 1: Fun Day Football. It promises to transport viewers into the

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Speaker 1: Simpsons universe with a real time animated viewing experience that

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Speaker 1: will match the game action as Bart Simpson and the

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Speaker 1: Bengals take on Homer Simpson and the Cowboys live from

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Speaker 1: Adams Stadium in Springfield. Lisa and Marge will service on

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Speaker 1: field sideline reporters, and that is the inspiration for this

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Speaker 1: episode of story Time with Dan. Here's the concept. I've

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Speaker 1: been broadcasting in some way, shape or form since weaving

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Speaker 1: My Magic on WAER FM eighty eight, the student radio

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Speaker 1: station at Syracuse University, where I called foot ball, basketball,

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Speaker 1: and lacrosse. In fact, the first lacrosse game I ever

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Speaker 1: saw I called on the radio. In case you're wondering,

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Speaker 1: I was abysmal, but hopefully I've gotten better, and after

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Speaker 1: all these years, I have a few stories to tell

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Speaker 1: this week on Storytime with Dan. It's my true claim

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Speaker 1: to fame. Here goes, I'm about to play a clip

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Speaker 1: from season two of the Simpsons. It's an episode called

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Speaker 1: Dance and Homer where Homer Simpson becomes the mascot for

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Speaker 1: the local minor league baseball team, the Springfield Isotopes. In

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Speaker 1: this clip, Blues singer Bleeding Gums Murphy belts out the

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Speaker 1: national anthem with shall we say, lots of flair. When

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Speaker 1: he starts, the clock over his shoulder reads seven thirty.

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Speaker 1: By the time he's done, it reads seven fifty six.

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Speaker 1: I am going to play the Simpsons clip, and then

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Speaker 1: I want you to listen closely to what the radio

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Speaker 1: play by play man says when ding Gums Murphy is

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Speaker 1: finished singing no Honor America.

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Speaker 5: When you play rhyme for our national anthem sunknighted by

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Speaker 5: spring Field Bleeding Gums.

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Speaker 2: O say can you I'm asking can you t theck Glen.

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Speaker 5: The bombs first suited all popping.

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Speaker 6: Will in the.

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Speaker 2: O Breay.

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Speaker 7: Hotty High, Springfield, Dan Horde, Mike side Tonight, our Isotopes

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Speaker 7: take on the pesky Shelbyville Shelby Williams. The Topes are

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Speaker 7: looking to snap that darn twenty six game losing streak

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Speaker 7: longest and professional baseball. How about that our sleepy town

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Speaker 7: is in the record book.

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Speaker 1: That's right, the baseball play by play announcer on that

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Speaker 1: episode of The Simpsons was named Dan Horde. Now here's

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Speaker 1: the story. When I was a senior at Syracuse University,

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Speaker 1: I was hired to be the radio announcer for the

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Speaker 1: Syracuse Chiefs, the top minor league farm club for the

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Speaker 1: Toronto Blue Jays. I did the games alone for a

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Speaker 1: couple of years, and then one off season a baseball

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Speaker 1: audition tape and resume arrived in the mail from a

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Speaker 1: guy looking for a minor league broadcasting job. His name

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Speaker 1: was Ken Levine and was quite the resume. Ken was

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Speaker 1: an Emmy Award winning screenwriter for such shows as Mash

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Speaker 1: and Cheers, But even though he had a hugely successful career,

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Speaker 1: his childhood dream was to be a baseball broadcaster. So

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Speaker 1: one summer he bought two season tickets in the upper

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Speaker 1: deck behind home plate at Dodger Stadium, set his equipment

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Speaker 1: up in one, sat down in the other, and called

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Speaker 1: every game into a tape recorder in hopes of getting

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Speaker 1: a job. At the end of that year, he sent

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Speaker 1: his audition tape to every minor league team in the country.

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Speaker 1: So we popped in Ken's tape and as you might expect,

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Speaker 1: this guy who wrote for Mash and Cheers was really funny.

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Speaker 1: So my boss said, I wonder what he'd be willing

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Speaker 1: to work for. He called up Ken in Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: and offered him the opportunity to be my broadcast partner

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Speaker 1: for the five month minor league baseball season for the

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Speaker 1: whopping sum of five thousand dollars one thousand bucks a month.

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Speaker 1: Ken said, I'll take it. Because of his success as

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Speaker 1: a screenwriter. He didn't really need the money. He just

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Speaker 1: wanted to get experience as a professional baseball announcer. So

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Speaker 1: he lugged his wife and two young kids to Syracuse

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Speaker 1: and we spent a season together broadcasting minor league games. Predictably,

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Speaker 1: we had a ton of laughs. Unfortunately, the ones we

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Speaker 1: had on the air were basically heard by the person

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Speaker 1: running the broadcast back at the station. It had such

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Speaker 1: a crappy signal that we were convinced it was powered

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Speaker 1: by a hamster on a treadmill. Ken had a million

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Speaker 1: funny lines that summer, but my favorite came on a

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Speaker 1: night in Omaha, Nebraska. The weather was miserable. It was

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Speaker 1: about one thousand degrees in the press box, brutal humidity,

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Speaker 1: and there were a bunch of dead insects in the

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Speaker 1: radio booth in short nasty. So that night Ken began

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Speaker 1: the broadcast as follows, Higain everybody, and welcome to Syracuse

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Speaker 1: Chiefs Baseball tonight. It's game one of the three game

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Speaker 1: series between the Chiefs and the Omaha Royals here in Omaha, Nebraska,

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Speaker 1: and the big question going into the game is why

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Speaker 1: do people live here. We'll be back with the first

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Speaker 1: pitch right after this. So we developed a great friendship,

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Speaker 1: and after Ken went home to Los Angeles at the

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Speaker 1: end of the year, he wrote the Dance and Homer

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Speaker 1: episode of The Simpsons and named the baseball broadcaster Dan Horde.

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Speaker 1: I didn't do the voice. The person who did was

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Speaker 1: Ken Levine. So here's another short clip from the episode.

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Speaker 1: We pick it up with Homer Simpson becoming Dance and

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Speaker 1: Homer as he dances on the dugout in hopes of

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Speaker 1: firing up the crowd, followed by the Dan Horde character

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Speaker 1: doing a little play by play, and I got.

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Speaker 5: Up in front of him and I dumped an intoxication

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Speaker 5: that had nothing to do with alcohol. It was the

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Speaker 5: intoxication of being a public spectacle.

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Speaker 8: There's some nutdown in right field dancing up the store.

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Speaker 1: He's really got the crowd going, but.

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Speaker 8: Seemed to get cheek a mediuner slugger, big Bilma story

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Speaker 8: swung on and built it a deep left field. It's

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Speaker 8: going going, It's gone.

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Speaker 2: It's down in here. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: So there it is my true claim to fame. There

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Speaker 1: was once a Dan Horde character on The Simpsons. Perhaps

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Speaker 1: the only thing about me that's ever impressed my son Sam.

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Speaker 1: That concludes story time with Dan and this episode of

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