Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.
Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama. Girl drama girl,
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Speaker 4: We're talking about the theme song of our show and
Speaker 4: wondering whether or not Gavin loves performing it out or
Speaker 4: if he's just like totally burnt out on it.
Speaker 5: I desperately need the YouTube audience. I just need everyone
Speaker 5: to tune into YouTube so they can catch Joy doing
Speaker 5: her makeup while we're like, you are bringing Multita my.
Speaker 4: Nasty paint covered nails. It's like, this is so gross.
Speaker 4: All week long, I've been like reaching for things and
Speaker 4: I have my nails are covered in house paints from
Speaker 4: painting sets. I keep reaching for things and people, or
Speaker 4: like eating at restaurants and people are just looking at
Speaker 4: and staring at me, my dinner companion.
Speaker 5: Anyone who's going to turn their nose up at you
Speaker 5: having paint on your nails.
Speaker 2: It's a second glance. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think it's worth the second glance. They look pretty nasty.
Speaker 5: I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just internal.
Speaker 5: Let's go back to the thing about does a musician
Speaker 5: just get tired of singing the same song over and over?
Speaker 5: I mean, think if every day when you showed up
Speaker 5: to work as an actor, you had to perform the
Speaker 5: same scene, yeah, or the same monologue.
Speaker 4: Yeah, greatest hits like Laurence Olivier always had to do
Speaker 4: poor Horatio, like you know, like the greatest hits of
Speaker 4: every actor. If they did concerts, they would just have
Speaker 4: to run through their repertoire every time.
Speaker 5: I think it would be especially tough if you really
Speaker 5: only had one big hit, because I think it would
Speaker 5: be this thing where you would come to resent it.
Speaker 5: I think if you had a catalog it would be different.
Speaker 5: But I think if you had one thing, and as
Speaker 5: soon as you started playing anything else, everyone's like, play
Speaker 5: the bether one, right, you probably wish you weren't. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like if you're the Rolling Stones and every song's
Speaker 2: a hit, you're having a great time. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, But if.
Speaker 2: Everyone only knows one, I don't know. I mean, I
Speaker 2: really wonder how Gavin feels about it because even what
Speaker 2: we were talking about, I think before we started recording,
Speaker 2: so for our friends at home, we were discussing like
Speaker 2: what our experiences when we're out in public and the
Speaker 2: song comes on. Essentially we all feel like we're getting punked.
Speaker 2: It's like, there's nothing like walking down an aisle in
Speaker 2: the grocery store and being like, wait a second, oh god,
Speaker 2: oh no, oh no, everyone's looking at me. There's nowhere
Speaker 2: to hide, there's no corner, and you're like, oh, where
Speaker 2: do I go? This is so awkward And it is
Speaker 2: really you know, because people kind of look and they're
Speaker 2: like eh, and you're like, I know, I don't know
Speaker 2: what to say. You're just like, you don't know what
Speaker 2: to do with my body right now. And I wonder,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wonder what the experience is like
Speaker 2: for him. Do you think he loves twenty years of
Speaker 2: TV royalties or do you think he's like, god, damn it,
Speaker 2: they ruined my best song. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm going to text him right now. This is a
Speaker 4: voice text for Gavin. Okay, Hey, what's up. We're podcasting
Speaker 4: right now, and we me, Sophia and Rob all want
Speaker 4: to know if you love performing I don't want to be,
Speaker 4: or if you are so tired of it after twenty
Speaker 4: years and you sort of present it.
Speaker 5: Is.
Speaker 4: This is.
Speaker 2: This is our question. Okay, coming back, I hope you're great.
Speaker 5: This is this is peak podcasting. Incredible listening to Joyce
Speaker 5: and voice notes, just to fully pull back the curtain
Speaker 5: to the audience. Yes, what we were talking about. Right
Speaker 5: before I started recording, I opened this conversation with saying
Speaker 5: that I cannot stand our show's theme song. Now let
Speaker 5: me say this. Please don't hear what I'm not saying.
Speaker 5: I love our show, and that is not me coming
Speaker 5: for Gavin. I have just heard it so many times,
Speaker 5: and I have had such a weird relationship with the
Speaker 5: show itself that the theme song, I think, kind of
Speaker 5: took the brunt of that. So it's yeah, it's a trick. Unfortunately,
Speaker 5: it has been stuck in my head for like the
Speaker 5: last day and a half. So I found myself walking
Speaker 5: around this morning being like, I can't If I never
Speaker 5: hear that song again, I will be so grateful because
Speaker 5: it's just.
Speaker 2: Been hanging around in your brain.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, and I don't even know all the words.
Speaker 5: I know like two lines and then the rest I know,
Speaker 5: just like a bits and pieces, which makes it even worse.
Speaker 2: You have the guitar riff, yes, yeah, and you're like.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, anything but.
Speaker 2: This that is so funny. Do you know the happy
Speaker 2: Birthday trick? What's fa something about the I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's the melody or the notes or whatever about
Speaker 2: Happy Birthday. That supposedly, if you have a song stuck
Speaker 2: in your head and then you sing Happy Birthday to yourself,
Speaker 2: it'll be gone. But Happy Birthday doesn't stick.
Speaker 4: It's the backup song that is Hotel California also works
Speaker 4: for that.
Speaker 2: Really, yes, oh, I feel like that would get stuck
Speaker 2: in my head.
Speaker 4: I loved the really Now it's like it's not catchy
Speaker 4: enough because all the notes are sort of a lot
Speaker 4: of the chords are more dissonant and more sharps and flats.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm I'm not a composer. I don't know
Speaker 4: how to read music, but I know the tone and
Speaker 4: it always it always works.
Speaker 2: You do write music, No, I do. I just don't.
Speaker 4: I can't read music, so I don't know how I
Speaker 4: to write chords or like speak the music language of chords.
Speaker 2: But I can tell you that it does work. Interesting.
Speaker 5: I was also in a way, I deserve this because
Speaker 5: I have had shares. Do you Believe in? Life after Love?
Speaker 5: Stuck in my head for about a week and a
Speaker 5: half now, and I was, I was complaining, we have
Speaker 5: a rule in our house where if Jenny or I
Speaker 5: have a song stuck in our head, we're not allowed
Speaker 5: to sing it or tell the other person because they
Speaker 5: are highly contagious, so you just have to suffer in silence.
Speaker 5: And so for the last week and a half, I've
Speaker 5: just been do you believe? In my head? And I'm
Speaker 5: just like, what did I do to deserve this? And
Speaker 5: then I got our theme song stuck in my head
Speaker 5: and I was like, I could diggle a deeper hole.
Speaker 5: It turns out that was my rock body. Well, welcome
Speaker 5: to the show, everybody.
Speaker 2: Now you're here to talk about it. And it's Valentine's
Speaker 2: Day everyone, Yeah.
Speaker 5: All right, what do we have today? Season eight, episode fifteen.
Speaker 5: Valentine's Day is over, or as I like to call it,
Speaker 5: mid season. Male Wishful film, February fifteenth, twenty eleven. Synopsis, Sex, games, secrets,
Speaker 5: and shoelaces all come into play as the couples of
Speaker 5: Tree Hills, so the breat Valentine's Day directed by Paul Johansson.
Speaker 2: He did such a great job with this episode.
Speaker 4: I knew the second that I saw the Nathan and
Speaker 4: Haley bathroom scene of us brushing our teeth and like
Speaker 4: talking and all the choreography of that. I knew that
Speaker 4: Paul had directed this episode because I had forgotten about that.
Speaker 4: But that scene we worked. We worked really hard on
Speaker 4: that because it was just one shot, so we had
Speaker 4: extra rehearsal time. And he had a lot of fun
Speaker 4: with this episode. I think he really brought a lot
Speaker 4: of fun ideas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very sweet, and the shooting over you too,
Speaker 2: but getting your coverage in the mirror, and the choreography
Speaker 2: of longtime married couple swapping mouthwash and talking about is
Speaker 2: it a blackhead? Is it a rash? I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, it just was so I don't know,
Speaker 2: it was fun and really charming, and I felt like
Speaker 2: so much much of the episode managed to be charming,
Speaker 2: which felt really nice given Rob's point about the amount
Speaker 2: of wish fulfillment. You know, like when you have grown
Speaker 2: ups writing sex game scripts, you're like, but it was charming,
Speaker 2: and I really cherished that, at least for myself and Austin.
Speaker 2: We had Paul directing this with us because he knew
Speaker 2: how to. Instead of leaning in and making things gratuitous
Speaker 2: and kind of gross, we really ramped up on the
Speaker 2: wardrobe the comedy. But then we went so comedic and
Speaker 2: it got to be so goofy and so physical, and
Speaker 2: I just remember how much fun we had with it,
Speaker 2: and yeah, it felt it sort of felt like the
Speaker 2: best outcome, and I felt incredibly protected with those two
Speaker 2: and it all really did mean most of it anyway,
Speaker 2: really did make me laugh. I enjoyed watching this one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that must you for sure win MVP by MVP,
Speaker 5: I mean most valuable and most vulnerable player. Here's what
Speaker 5: I will say. As soon as the episode opened, I
Speaker 5: remembered this. I was just like, oh, buddy, okay, so
Speaker 5: soar in her paycheck this week. But I will say
Speaker 5: I also noticed that it was just you and Austin
Speaker 5: in the same location, and I went, Okay, listen the
Speaker 5: work this week. But she was done in like two days. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so you had a nice break. So at least I
Speaker 5: feel like you got a reward for going through this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. I remember getting this U when we get
Speaker 2: the script and you go, oh my god, am I
Speaker 2: about to win the schedule lottery? And then I remember
Speaker 2: when the day out of days came out and I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm going home and I want to go
Speaker 2: home for like a whole week. And it was so nice.
Speaker 2: That's so great.
Speaker 4: It was so Actually I wondered, when you got the script,
Speaker 4: how do you handle how did you handle that? Because
Speaker 4: obviously that would have been really kind of upsetting to
Speaker 4: read all that At first, I'm assuming, but then knowing
Speaker 4: Paul was directing, is it just like did you have
Speaker 4: a panic or were you just like, I'm just going
Speaker 4: to go talk to Paul and we'll figure this out.
Speaker 4: It's fine.
Speaker 2: I don't totally remember, to be honest, what I remember.
Speaker 2: I always felt better when Paul was directing. Of course,
Speaker 2: I I remember honestly being like, aw cool, Robin Chantell
Speaker 2: get to watch City and Color in their clothes and
Speaker 2: I have to do this. And I was like also
Speaker 2: because I was bummed because I knew I was going
Speaker 2: to go home with my you know, five days off,
Speaker 2: and so I couldn't like sneak to set and hang
Speaker 2: for the show. But yeah, I know that I was excited,
Speaker 2: not excited. I know that I was what's the word
Speaker 2: I'm looking for, comforted? I guess knowing Paul was going
Speaker 2: to be directing. And what I love about Paul, you
Speaker 2: know when he does the this and he like gives
Speaker 2: you the look and he has his he has his
Speaker 2: little close mouth laugh where he goes it's all right.
Speaker 2: I remember going to find him and he goes, did
Speaker 2: you read it?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: And what I loved about it is I knew he
Speaker 2: already had thoughts. And we really talked about the you know,
Speaker 2: our great favorite comedic women, and he was like, we'll
Speaker 2: figure out all your all your moments. You know, you'll
Speaker 2: have Sophia La Ren moments, you'll have Lucille ball moments.
Speaker 2: And I was like, that sounds amazing. And then the
Speaker 2: thing that I knew I needed to figure out was
Speaker 2: wardrobe because everything was written like lingerie, lingerie, lingerie, and
Speaker 2: so Carol and I were like, okay, well, if we
Speaker 2: have to do, you know, the French made thing will
Speaker 2: really make it feel beautiful and like Bridget BARDOI and
Speaker 2: sixties and we'll put you in tights and then you know,
Speaker 2: for the pizza thing. It was like, Okay, well let's
Speaker 2: do this full body suit moment, so I didn't have
Speaker 2: to feel like I was supposed to be completely exposed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Yeah, it was a lot of underwear,
Speaker 4: but like got more costume me than yeah, than underwear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt more costume and I didn't have to
Speaker 2: prance around with like my ass cheeks out. You know.
Speaker 2: I was essentially wearing like a red one piece bathing
Speaker 2: suit and then like had a robe off and then
Speaker 2: right back on, and the robe served for comedy, and
Speaker 2: so much of it actually was so funny. Even the
Speaker 2: French made costume. We like tripled up the little petticoats,
Speaker 2: so when Austin spun me around, it did like a
Speaker 2: full twirl and like that stuff felt really fun, And
Speaker 2: I think those things are cool when you're when you
Speaker 2: have a team that's going to support you to make
Speaker 2: you as comfortable as possible. Because our boss made so
Speaker 2: many of us, I mean all of us uncomfortable in
Speaker 2: our own ways and in our own moments, and so
Speaker 2: knowing what was written on the page and then knowing
Speaker 2: what we got to do, I was like, Paul's a G,
Speaker 2: Carol's a G. Our team is great.
Speaker 4: It actually served a great purpose too, because once the
Speaker 4: audience gets the information mentally, oh, this is not going
Speaker 4: to be a t and as show for me, they
Speaker 4: could just focus on you guys and your performances. And
Speaker 4: that's really what shone through, shown shined was shining.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: That's what was shining through was the two of you
Speaker 4: because you had so much fun with it and it
Speaker 4: wasn't just the same thing over and over again. You
Speaker 4: really got to experiment and play and yeah, it was great.
Speaker 2: It's really fun. Yeah we did. It was really fun.
Speaker 5: Sometimes the beauty pageant hijacks the scene, right and in
Speaker 5: this case, and I should say like the skin show,
Speaker 5: not just like the but like so it never happened
Speaker 5: though with you guys, it was like you were wearing
Speaker 5: something beautiful, but the comedy and the story was still
Speaker 5: the focal point. For example, a scene where that wasn't
Speaker 5: successful was the opener when you're in the kitchen and
Speaker 5: Austin walks out with his pants so low I know,
Speaker 5: standards and practices, was like, oh my god, to the
Speaker 5: point that I called Jenny and through him and I
Speaker 5: was like, excuse me, have you ever seen a lower
Speaker 5: pair of pants in your life. And she was like
Speaker 5: and she was like, excuse me, yeah, you every time
Speaker 5: you've been shirts, Cameron. I was like, oh my bad.
Speaker 5: But it was just like, for example, so that when
Speaker 5: that happened, like I stopped hearing dialogue and was just like,
Speaker 5: my lord, did I just get pregnant? What happened? And
Speaker 5: that never happened with any of the sex game stuff,
Speaker 5: but in an opening scene, I was like, this is
Speaker 5: what it's become. All I'm doing is just staring at
Speaker 5: Austin's Bear Tor.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he was a good sport. He was. He
Speaker 2: was really he was. He was doing an ab show
Speaker 2: for everybody for much of the episode.
Speaker 5: Also fair considering that every role playing it was him
Speaker 5: and like Bear like him dressed basically every single time
Speaker 5: in normal clothes in you So it was it's it
Speaker 5: was a good team play that he was like, I
Speaker 5: will gladly do this one wildly gratuitous, dangerously low pants
Speaker 5: scene in exchange for your eight different fantasy Totally.
Speaker 2: I also, I remember I remembered a lot of them.
Speaker 2: When it started, I was like, oh right, I know
Speaker 2: what we're doing. This is the you know, Valentine's day
Speaker 2: at home, whole role play day, and then we got
Speaker 2: to the babysitter one and I was like, I hate this,
Speaker 2: I hate this, this is so it yuck. And then
Speaker 2: I literally wrote down, thank god we were the same age.
Speaker 2: Thank god we called it creepy. And then I go,
Speaker 2: oh oh, but then we switch it. Now I'm a
Speaker 2: creep Okay, yeah, I was like, this is the one
Speaker 2: that just I was like, maybe we could have thrown
Speaker 2: in the towel on that and been like never mind,
Speaker 2: never mind and left it there instead of putting him
Speaker 2: in the schoolboy position. But whatever, he looked cute in
Speaker 2: his letterman jacket.
Speaker 5: I moved on, Does anyone actually eat those heart candies? No?
Speaker 4: I love them what. I love the purple ones, I
Speaker 4: love the orange ones. Sometimes I like the pink ones.
Speaker 4: They're a little pepto bismally, but I like.
Speaker 5: Them so they actually have different flavors. Yeah, they're not
Speaker 5: just different colors.
Speaker 2: I love them. Learn something, you guys don't eat those,
Speaker 2: absolutely not.
Speaker 5: It's the same reason I don't eat the packing peanuts.
Speaker 5: When I open up there you go.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say they're chalky, but Rob really illustrated
Speaker 2: the point.
Speaker 5: I'm shocked. I'm shocked joy you know what. That also
Speaker 5: makes sense, so because in the scene Haley reaches across
Speaker 5: and takes a handful and slugs about half of it
Speaker 5: in one So that was clearly that was a joy
Speaker 5: choice that just happened to work for Haley being Oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was so excited about eating those. You have
Speaker 4: to be careful when you eat ho hose I do
Speaker 4: not like, and so that was definitely something we had
Speaker 4: to have a little spit bucket on the side for me.
Speaker 5: Okay, let's talk about that because I have a question,
Speaker 5: So we're gonna let's just jump to that end scene
Speaker 5: of Quick. You and James are laying in a bed.
Speaker 5: You take a bite of the ho ho. I was
Speaker 5: very aware of this. I was waiting for where's the
Speaker 5: cut for the spit take or the spit bucket. But
Speaker 5: you take good bite, you chew, you talk, and then
Speaker 5: you start kissing me. So my question is, if there
Speaker 5: was a spit bucket, how did that work?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, they shoot from different angles. That wasn't the
Speaker 4: only I don't think that was the only shot.
Speaker 5: Go back and watch it, sister. They live in that
Speaker 5: shot from the bite the chew, the talk, and the kiss.
Speaker 5: You were giving a kiss with some ho ho in
Speaker 5: your mouth.
Speaker 2: That's weird. I was maybe you took a dany diny bite.
Speaker 4: Maybe I just am remembering a pitbucket and there wasn't one.
Speaker 4: But I don't like ho hosts, so I don't know.
Speaker 4: Sorry if I'm speaking out of turn. I thought I
Speaker 4: thought there was one, but maybe not. Maybe I just
Speaker 4: had to stomach it. Maybe we only shot it like
Speaker 4: twice because I don't like ho hose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, by the way, I wouldn't surprise me
Speaker 2: if Paul was like, I think I might want this
Speaker 2: in one shot? Can you do? Can you do a
Speaker 2: take without this bit bucket? And you were like, h oh, well,
Speaker 2: it would have.
Speaker 4: Been there for after for after the when when they
Speaker 4: because they ended. He ended the episode by slowing the
Speaker 4: kiss down and then went to black, So that would
Speaker 4: have been what it was that I would have spit
Speaker 4: it out after he said cut six.
Speaker 5: Yeah, were just the logistics of having a chewed up
Speaker 5: ho ho in your mouth while you kiss memes and
Speaker 5: then cut and then I cut my.
Speaker 4: Lips closed, you know, I mean, yeah, yep.
Speaker 5: Listen, you you go all in on your craft. Okay,
Speaker 5: that's what I love. You're brave, you're fearless. You eat
Speaker 5: the ho ho, you chew it up and then you
Speaker 5: open mouths.
Speaker 2: God gross, can you imagine what you're doing?
Speaker 4: And how about Haley in her house in lubatons or
Speaker 4: that's the implication anyway, with the painted bottom of the shoe, she's.
Speaker 2: In high heels climbing on ladders. I wrote this.
Speaker 4: Down and talking about how everything is swollen, including your.
Speaker 2: Like she's so uncomfortable, but she's in stilettos. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: was weird. That was a weird, uh situation. I wonder why?
Speaker 2: And on the step stool and like running around the house.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 2: It's so interesting to me that they always wanted us
Speaker 2: in such high heels. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: It felt for a moment like I was watching a
Speaker 5: cautionary take. Yes, like a pregnant woman on a step
Speaker 5: ladder in high heels, Like what are we how many
Speaker 5: hats on a heath do we need?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they did it to you in this episode,
Speaker 2: and then they do it to me at the end
Speaker 2: of the season exactly that. Oh yeah, yeah, And I
Speaker 2: remember being I remember when it was my turn being like,
Speaker 2: who would do this?
Speaker 4: And I was why pregnant, Yes, climbing on these step
Speaker 4: stools in high heel.
Speaker 5: Again, fearless, joy, what you do for your own It was.
Speaker 2: All those little sweethearts you got hopped up on sugar.
Speaker 2: That's what I want and you felt like a superhero.
Speaker 2: Give me the high heels.
Speaker 5: I did love the sort of opening juxtaposition of the
Speaker 5: three couples I guess four couples, but I noticed specifically
Speaker 5: the transition from Claying Quinn having hot shower whoopee, to
Speaker 5: then going to Haley and Nathan brushing teeth. What's this
Speaker 5: spot on my back gargling I love you, love you too,
Speaker 5: pat on the back. I was like, great depiction.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I loved the and it was the line was
Speaker 4: Valentine's Day is hot, and then they cut to Nathan
Speaker 4: with the nose clippers and his nose trise.
Speaker 5: I enjoyed watching Julian attempt accents with the different characters,
Speaker 5: like he he definitely put one on for Thor and
Speaker 5: then for the next one the French made one. It
Speaker 5: seemed like it was just kind of dip in his
Speaker 5: toe in the accent pool here and there, Which was
Speaker 5: which was so perfectly Julian. It felt very right. You
Speaker 5: know that he wouldn't have like an accent down. He
Speaker 5: would just sort of be like, I'm going to give
Speaker 5: it a shot.
Speaker 2: You know, he's a director, he's not an actor. I
Speaker 2: liked his you know, Jersey Boys adjacent vibe as the handyman.
Speaker 2: It was very cute. And then my god, when he
Speaker 2: walks in in the suit and the glasses, I was like,
Speaker 2: he looks like Clark kt oh, totally, Like why did
Speaker 2: Austin never audition for Superman?
Speaker 5: Maybe he did? Maybe maybe they saw this episode and
Speaker 5: they thought just it's too much sex.
Speaker 2: Too much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sex Pylon. Do you remember that name?
Speaker 2: What I told you?
Speaker 5: I worked with a director who did an episode of
Speaker 5: our show, and I guess it was one of the
Speaker 5: ones introducing Austin's character, and he was like, yeah, he was.
Speaker 5: It was when he was the new sex Pylon on
Speaker 5: the show. And I was like, I have never heard a.
Speaker 2: Funnier n sex pylon.
Speaker 5: Sex Pilon Incredibly, you'll come in wearing pants that low.
Speaker 2: You've earned it, shoe fits, you've earned it. Listen we
Speaker 2: we oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I loved the uh Haley finding this necklace, which yeah,
Speaker 5: bless it. It looks like it purchased at a drug store.
Speaker 5: And she opens it. She's like oh, And then Quinn goes, oh,
Speaker 5: I wanted that.
Speaker 2: I was like, neither of you wanted that.
Speaker 5: No, you liars. You actually have good taste. You dress
Speaker 5: well on the show. No one wants a giant heart
Speaker 5: necklace unless it's coming from like Jamie. Yeah, sure, wonderful,
Speaker 5: But come on, gang, could we not find a little
Speaker 5: smaller something?
Speaker 2: It just really needed to read on camera, but the
Speaker 2: full palm size was too big. This tells me Rob
Speaker 2: that you are probably an excellent Valentine's Day gift giver.
Speaker 2: No ooh, I like where this is going?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Well ooh the answer is yes. Look how browd he is.
Speaker 5: No, it's yes and no, right, not anymore because I
Speaker 5: have always had it much like Clay, I have a
Speaker 5: beef with Valentine's Day.
Speaker 2: Okay, why like I?
Speaker 5: Because I don't need one holiday to be designated for
Speaker 5: like this is when you should be a romantic. Valentine's
Speaker 5: Day to me is as unromantic as when you're at
Speaker 5: a restaurant and the person walks by with a basket
Speaker 5: of roses and goes would you like a rose for
Speaker 5: the lady. It's like there has never been a lazier
Speaker 5: expression of romance than when a guy goes, yeah, here's
Speaker 5: a ten spot. Here you go.
Speaker 2: No, it's very weird.
Speaker 5: So the same thing. It just feels contrived and so no,
Speaker 5: like I don't we don't even like really acknowledge it anymore.
Speaker 5: But when I was dating, yeah, then I would put
Speaker 5: on a show. But I always resented the fact that
Speaker 5: I felt like it's pressure.
Speaker 4: It's like there's some sort of arbitrary pressure created by
Speaker 4: everything around you, and you're like, why is this, why
Speaker 4: does this exist?
Speaker 2: There's no reason for it? Well, it's it's literally the
Speaker 2: death gargle of late stage capitalism. They're like, hey, if
Speaker 2: you're not a T shirt, as if we didn't get
Speaker 2: you to spend enough money just before New Year's now
Speaker 2: you need a whole other holiday and it's about jewelry.
Speaker 4: Like, come on, death, I'm writing this down death gargle.
Speaker 2: It's the death gargle.
Speaker 5: Stay is it the death rattle?
Speaker 2: It is a rattle.
Speaker 5: Thank you, rob death rattle.
Speaker 2: A death rattle is what it actually is.
Speaker 5: That's an actual sound the body makes.
Speaker 4: I know the phrase, but like the gargle is just
Speaker 4: it's just what came out.
Speaker 2: It's so brilliant. See, sometimes my dyslexi is cute. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what's the word? Close enough?
Speaker 5: I agree though, because to me, it's like I hopefully
Speaker 5: in the other three hundred and sixty four days I
Speaker 5: do a good job of letting you know how I
Speaker 5: feel about it. Yeah, and all of that, and so
Speaker 5: if I suddenly need one day to then like do
Speaker 5: what I've already been told it, it's just yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's immediate. It's like somebody telling you to sit
Speaker 4: down when you were about to sit down anyway. You're like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm not doing this for you.
Speaker 2: You know what I like, here's my Valentine's highlight. It's
Speaker 2: actually Chuck's storyline. I mean the sadness of you know,
Speaker 2: his mother dealing with addiction. Aside, I think Valentine's Day
Speaker 2: the way I like to do it, and I agree
Speaker 2: with you, Rob. Maybe it's like when you actually are
Speaker 2: happy or settled or whatever word you want to use,
Speaker 2: you're not in the weird courting phase. You're not trying
Speaker 2: to keep up with anything like Valentine's Day. For me,
Speaker 2: I want a handmade card, like I just want a letter. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's how I want to acknowledge the day, is to
Speaker 2: acknowledge something real and like sweet and special. You know,
Speaker 2: I think Valentine's Day is so cute for kids, How
Speaker 2: sweet to get Valentine's from you know, your little nuggets,
Speaker 2: help them make cards and whatever. But it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: the the big show out there. I bugs me too, man,
Speaker 2: We're all okay, we're all Clay.
Speaker 5: This is one I think Clay got very.
Speaker 2: Right, except that Clay covers trick. Yes, apparently a full
Speaker 2: event might be exploded Trickso.
Speaker 5: That time cut is the amount of work that Chase
Speaker 5: and Chuck apparently did in like ninety minutes.
Speaker 2: Yes, by the way, two days we shot all those
Speaker 2: Brook and Julian scenes on stage. Set deck was dressing
Speaker 2: trick the two days, the full two full days of loading,
Speaker 2: and supposedly next minutes, we just decorated a school a
Speaker 2: venue for a school dance, an eighth grade school dance.
Speaker 4: And it required sheets of you know tinsel that like
Speaker 4: hangs with all the ribbony strips and uh, you know,
Speaker 4: other random sort of little decorations. But that stuff takes
Speaker 4: a really long time to hang and we had a
Speaker 4: whole like a whole team of moms.
Speaker 2: You know, Listen does not just get put up by
Speaker 2: Chuck and Chase. Chase and an eight year old did
Speaker 2: that in ninety minutes flat. Absolutely not. No.
Speaker 5: Also, it's so funny that you you managed to get
Speaker 5: your person's favorite band to do a private show and
Speaker 5: then you go, but you know what, it's not quite enough.
Speaker 5: What if I got four hundred dollars of decorations from
Speaker 5: my goals and hung it up everywhere?
Speaker 2: Yep, that'll do it. Yeah, yeah, not just the candelabras,
Speaker 2: but make sure you have this spinning multi cutout hearts
Speaker 2: hanging from the ceiling like.
Speaker 5: The shot on that.
Speaker 2: I was like, why do we need this? He's up
Speaker 2: there singing, it's so beautiful. Leave it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just missing one thing. Oh you know what? Yeah,
Speaker 5: a creepy nine year old waiter. Yeah, that's really going
Speaker 5: to hammer him.
Speaker 2: But she doesn't know. Has she ever met Chuck?
Speaker 5: No, she doesn't meet Chuck. I don't think I know Chuck.
Speaker 2: Or here's my question, what is the what's the Scrooge
Speaker 2: character for Valentine's Day? Is there one? It's us? What's
Speaker 2: it called like scrooge. Hat's Christmas? Bahambug? What's the what's
Speaker 2: the scrooge of I see through you Valentine's Day?
Speaker 5: I don't know, but that's a great idea for him.
Speaker 2: We got to come up with actually.
Speaker 5: Add this to our listen to writing it down projects.
Speaker 2: She's literally writing it down. I'm typing it.
Speaker 5: I remember City and Color performing for us, and that
Speaker 5: was special. That was one of those memories that I
Speaker 5: just and I didn't know who they were or who
Speaker 5: he was prior, and Chantelle did, and I remember her
Speaker 5: saying like, dude, this is a big deal, and he's
Speaker 5: so he's so yeah, and then sitting there and being
Speaker 5: like this is It's really made sure.
Speaker 4: Our show did that so well, Like we would have
Speaker 4: these moments where you could just tell, I mean, they
Speaker 4: set it up so well with the cameras in the
Speaker 4: stages and you could just tell somebody is such a star.
Speaker 4: They just step up there with their instrument and start singing,
Speaker 4: and everything else falls away. All the ridiculousness, all the
Speaker 4: other things that we joke about and you know, make
Speaker 4: fun of lovingly about our show falls away, and you're
Speaker 4: watching a very real talent do what they do it's wonderful,
Speaker 4: and even.
Speaker 5: Though he had no lines, there was a wonderful moment
Speaker 5: that grounded the whole thing, where in between songs, I
Speaker 5: think there's a moment of Clay and Quinn kissing and
Speaker 5: the camera kind of pans up and you see him
Speaker 5: just standing there. Because the truth is, that would be
Speaker 5: so awkward performing for two people, and I'm so glad
Speaker 5: that we took a moment to acknowledge, Yeah, that is
Speaker 5: a very weird dynamic, and he kind of gives that
Speaker 5: look like I guess I'll keep It was.
Speaker 2: Very funny, especially because he has no band. You know,
Speaker 2: it's an acoustic performance, so it's like he doesn't have
Speaker 2: anyone he can look at while you two are making
Speaker 2: out to have He's just kind of like, so do
Speaker 2: I go or more of this? I love them?
Speaker 4: Paul noticed and put that in because it easily could
Speaker 4: have just been skipped over, but he was like, no,
Speaker 4: you're in the scene. What would you how would you
Speaker 4: be reacting exactly? Thank you for being an actor and
Speaker 4: knowing what's going on in the scene.
Speaker 5: I will say I loved I agree with you. So
Speaker 5: the heart of this episode was Chuck and Chase. Yes,
Speaker 5: their stuff was great, and Mouth.
Speaker 2: And Millie both both those storylines were like real highlights
Speaker 2: for me. They were so fun to watch.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, give me all the Lisa go. She's just
Speaker 5: so lovable and likable and fun to watch, and her
Speaker 5: and Lee are so great together. But the Chuck and
Speaker 5: Chase of it I really liked because I thought Michael
Speaker 5: did such a wonderful job with how he played the
Speaker 5: disappointment about his dad. Yeah, Like when he has that
Speaker 5: line when I think Chase says like, when was the
Speaker 5: last time you saw your dad? And he says he
Speaker 5: kind of throws it away like two years not that long.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, he didn't lean into it, you know.
Speaker 5: And then the fact that he circles back at the
Speaker 5: very end of the day in Chase's car and goes,
Speaker 5: two years is a long time. Huh. It's like he knows.
Speaker 5: He's just trying to tell himself a different story about it,
Speaker 5: you know. But their whole dynamic was was so great.
Speaker 5: And then the reveal of I mean behind the scenes
Speaker 5: Michael made does love show too, Yeah, and he does music.
Speaker 4: And she writes songs. I mean that that song was
Speaker 4: a song that he was singing and showing like not
Speaker 4: showing off, but like he was always wandering around singing,
Speaker 4: and our creator and other writers on the show noticed
Speaker 4: and he was like, oh, yeah, I got a new song.
Speaker 4: And he started singing that one and was working on it,
Speaker 4: and they were.
Speaker 2: Like, let's put it in the show.
Speaker 5: Wait, that's an original.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, he wrote that.
Speaker 5: Oh, I already had my notes. I love that Michael
Speaker 5: is part of the music of One Tree Hill, but
Speaker 5: now knowing I assumed it was from a play of
Speaker 5: some sort. Now, so knowing that it's his, though, makes
Speaker 5: it so much better. I will say it did make
Speaker 5: I had one strong feeling, which is, I this is
Speaker 5: a personal bugaboo of mine. I can't stand being sung too,
Speaker 5: like when someone sings and makes eye contact with me.
Speaker 5: I think it's because I think it's because like in
Speaker 5: dating when I was younger, like a lot the girls
Speaker 5: would like try to like sing, and I just hated
Speaker 5: the position it put me in, Like I felt like
Speaker 5: I was a prisoner. Because now I have to be like,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, wow, so good that I just came to
Speaker 5: resent it. So watching Chase sit there and not know
Speaker 5: how to react and respond was so funny and also
Speaker 5: so triggering for me because I'm like that that is
Speaker 5: my nightmare. Oh just someone looking at me.
Speaker 4: His face was so brilliant. So sincere, I'm so glad
Speaker 4: they didn't do this this Chase Chuck as a one off.
Speaker 4: You know that they really kept this mentorship love story.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm so here for it. I love their dynamic.
Speaker 4: But yes, Chuck on stage jumping around and what.
Speaker 2: Is he Oh that's what he says.
Speaker 4: Chase goes, you know that punch in the stomach thing
Speaker 4: actually is kind of cool.
Speaker 2: Chuck's like he like show tunes. Actually, that punch of
Speaker 2: the stummy thing is kind of cool. Will you make
Speaker 2: that your thing? Yeah? I just want to protect your kid.
Speaker 5: One thing I was confused about, though, is that two
Speaker 5: episodes ago, Chasing Mia had sex in the wedding limo.
Speaker 5: One episode ago, Mia comes to the bar and like, hey,
Speaker 5: you see him off. Are we good? And he's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: we're good. I just have some stuff going on. Then
Speaker 5: this episode is Valentine's Day and there's not a mention.
Speaker 2: Well, but he says to her, which I and it
Speaker 2: bumped for me too. When she says are we good?
Speaker 2: He said, yeah, you said the slutty wedding sex didn't
Speaker 2: mean anything, and I was like, oh.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no. He said to her, uh no,
Speaker 5: we said that we sex didn't mean anything, and then
Speaker 5: she goes, no, you said that, and I just went
Speaker 5: with it.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I didn't take detailed enough notes. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: funny because I scrolled down on Today's and I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: I see it, and I'm like, oh, you actually, you're
Speaker 2: very right. I yeah, I wonder what that what that
Speaker 2: is because we're not getting any explanation, like it could
Speaker 2: have been one line if Chuck just asked him.
Speaker 5: That's exactly it. Yeah, I'm I'm okay that all we
Speaker 5: saw was Chase and Chuck because it's an awesome storyline
Speaker 5: for both of these guys, and it's so cool to
Speaker 5: see them do different things than they usually do. It
Speaker 5: was just odd that, like you said, Joy, it's one line, yeah,
Speaker 5: and you can address it and move on. So I
Speaker 5: thought that, Yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Is really weird, especially if Chase is circling back to
Speaker 2: the sort of headspace he was in when Julian shows
Speaker 2: the girls the video at Thanksgiving and he's like, I'm
Speaker 2: just going to focus on me, you know, I need
Speaker 2: to figure out my own life whatever. Why not talk
Speaker 2: about it? Why not actually show the audience that that
Speaker 2: is continuing to run for him? It's weird. It feels
Speaker 2: like a ball drop.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and if we're trying to make him likeaboy, you know,
Speaker 5: it's just like that's not a cool thing to do.
Speaker 5: Then you know, to be like, I don't want it.
Speaker 5: Let's have sex. I don't want it. Yeah, there was
Speaker 5: one more thing I wanted to do address about the
Speaker 5: reveal of the whole surprise. Clay set up right so
Speaker 5: he somehow gets her favorite band, It gets trick all
Speaker 5: to himself. He has Michael's explode all over them. Obviously
Speaker 5: a lot of time and work went into this. They
Speaker 5: walk up to the table and he doesn't pull out
Speaker 5: Quinn's why didn't you do that? Buddy? I don't know,
Speaker 5: like as as as the as me who like I'm
Speaker 5: big on chivalry and me he was like, I don't.
Speaker 5: And then also, just if you're going to track what
Speaker 5: the characters doing what, I don't know how both me
Speaker 5: and Clay drop the ball so hard, but I was shocked.
Speaker 5: Now we walk up to the table, I don't even
Speaker 5: make an effort. I immediately go for mine, and nine
Speaker 5: year old waiter Michael May pulls out Quinn's chair.
Speaker 4: Oh that's why, because because they had set you guys
Speaker 4: had set it up that Michael was going to pull
Speaker 4: out the chair. That as like an intro that has
Speaker 4: to be it.
Speaker 5: But I don't. I don't even do the empty gesture.
Speaker 5: It's just it, really all.
Speaker 4: You were spaced out for a minute when you guys
Speaker 4: were walking up, you know, like you know how it goes.
Speaker 4: You're chatting about something right before they say action, and
Speaker 4: then you just walk into it and kind of I mean,
Speaker 4: I think that happens to all of us.
Speaker 2: I also wonder if as a director, I would imagine
Speaker 2: Paul said, I want Michael May to pull the chair
Speaker 2: out for Chantelle. So I wonder if by the third
Speaker 2: time you did it, and that was actually the best
Speaker 2: tracking shot to get you guys to the table, you
Speaker 2: weren't even gesturing for it anymore.
Speaker 5: Also to Joy's point, I do have a very specific
Speaker 5: memory of trying my hardest to distract and break Steven
Speaker 5: while he was talking to the two of us. So
Speaker 5: you were right. I was probably focusing all of my
Speaker 5: energy on how I could make Steven laugh and distract
Speaker 5: him or make Shantelle laugh. Then I was actually which
Speaker 5: is on brand?
Speaker 2: Yeah sounds about right, so feels right. I love it.
Speaker 2: You know what I thought was very sweet too in
Speaker 2: their storyline, and you brought up part of it, the
Speaker 2: conversation they have in the car. You know, when when
Speaker 2: Chase drives Chuck home and they have that beat and
Speaker 2: he acknowledges that two years is a long time, you
Speaker 2: start to kind of see underneath. I like that when
Speaker 2: he starts to, you know, be kind of a little
Speaker 2: shit again. There's just a pause and then he's self
Speaker 2: correct and says, thank you so great, and you're already
Speaker 2: starting to see just a little bit of a positive
Speaker 2: presence have an influence on a kid. I thought it
Speaker 2: was such a nice reminder and it was nice to
Speaker 2: have that acknowledgment, even though it was wordless between Chuck's
Speaker 2: mom and Chase, because it's a pretty big reveal, right,
Speaker 2: you know, you assume he's been working all day, and
Speaker 2: then you realize he's been checking on Chuck's mom. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, it's a big woe for the audience and
Speaker 2: to sort of see how that registered for her.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a I thought the whole the
Speaker 2: whole bit of it, despite it not actually being in
Speaker 2: terms of the verbiage, you know, really long or really
Speaker 2: wordy scenes, I thought the impact was really excellently driven home.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it was a great way of getting a
Speaker 5: new insight into Chase's character. Yes, because the amount of
Speaker 5: class and grace that he had for her. Yeah, Like
Speaker 5: when she even tried to blame it on him and
Speaker 5: she was like, I think you're better than me, I
Speaker 5: was like, there's a version of which he says, yeah,
Speaker 5: this version of you way better. But he never once
Speaker 5: shamed her. The look he gave her at the end
Speaker 5: wasn't like hmmm, yeah, you know he was. He was
Speaker 5: sweet about the whole thing. The one one thing I
Speaker 5: kind of bumped on though, is that when Chuck says
Speaker 5: two years is a long time, I wanted Chase to
Speaker 5: say yes. I wanted Chase to kind of validate as
Speaker 5: opposed I see what he's doing. He's trying to be like, nah, buddy,
Speaker 5: it's not that bad like he's But I also wanted
Speaker 5: him to go, yeah, you're right, because what did he
Speaker 5: say he is saying in that moment?
Speaker 2: Did he say anything he said no, oh really, he.
Speaker 5: Goes, Oh yeah, no, he goes. She says, two years
Speaker 5: is a long time, huh, And Chase says it's not
Speaker 5: that long. And I wish Chase had said yeah, because
Speaker 5: Chuck knows in his heart it's a long time. So
Speaker 5: it's like, yeah, this is your chance to like establish
Speaker 5: that with the kid, validate what he's saying. Yeah, man,
Speaker 5: it's a super long time. Yeah, that's wild. Whatever you're
Speaker 5: feeling is right.
Speaker 2: He didn't.
Speaker 4: He just doesn't have the maturity and experience to know
Speaker 4: how to handle that. Like that's kind of what we
Speaker 4: do often in life. And somebody's struggling, you just want
Speaker 4: to make him feel better, you know. Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 4: oh no, it's okay, it's okay. It takes I think
Speaker 4: it takes a wild life experience to learn that that's
Speaker 4: actually not comforting. It's actually better to just acknowledge the
Speaker 4: hard thing.
Speaker 2: Well, and by the way, we're worry able to see
Speaker 2: that now. But when you were saying that, Joy, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, I always forget that. At
Speaker 2: this point in the show, our characters are like twenty five.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, when you think about that, Chase is actually
Speaker 5: doing an extraordinarily good job. Totally. Yeah, it's not fair
Speaker 5: for like forty three year old parent me to be like,
Speaker 5: there was a better day. Yeah, I wouldn't have known better. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So no, he did a fantastic job.
Speaker 4: This.
Speaker 5: What's so great about not remembering what happens in the
Speaker 5: show is that I was genuinely caught off guard with
Speaker 5: the station calling mouth at the end of the episode
Speaker 5: it's for Millie, and I was like, wait, a second,
Speaker 5: does she does she becomes some news person?
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 5: Oh my god?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh man.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: It's such a nice cliffhanger too, because their whole storyline
Speaker 2: in the episode is so sweet and so thoughtful, even
Speaker 2: the detail that when he gives her the gift, he says, well,
Speaker 2: I talked to Brooke and she says, you like this.
Speaker 2: You know that that mouth went to figure out what
Speaker 2: she'd really want instead of you know, giving her some
Speaker 2: random something because it's Valentine's Day. I just think their
Speaker 2: relationship is so sweet, you know, him giving us a
Speaker 2: little peak behind the curtain about how they used to
Speaker 2: eat Chinese food together in New York and you know,
Speaker 2: now they're eating that meal by candlelight and talking about
Speaker 2: how far they've come, and she says, it's nice to
Speaker 2: be here, and she means, you know, so much more
Speaker 2: than just in Tree Hill. It's like in this place
Speaker 2: and time with him, and the whole build up is
Speaker 2: just so sweet to have.
Speaker 4: Been through so much in their relationship and she's through
Speaker 4: so much in her personal life and growth.
Speaker 2: And then and then that moment at the end. It's
Speaker 2: such a good cliffhanger because you go, h oh, like
Speaker 2: are they still going to like to be here? Or
Speaker 2: is this going to cause a problem?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know Mouf, he's so supportive and kind
Speaker 4: and generous, and you know he's what else is he
Speaker 4: going to do but say that's great, congratulations, But you
Speaker 4: know that's going to kill him inside.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe his dramatic weight gain that is coming up
Speaker 5: is from all the humble pie. He's being forced because
Speaker 5: this guy has taken one hit out, Like.
Speaker 2: When does mouth get to win? Dang it, it's a lot.
Speaker 5: He deserves a w poor guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's not coming soon. Oh boy, I just
Speaker 2: looked up. I have to tell you guys what I
Speaker 2: wrote down. When you and UH and James are going
Speaker 2: you know, playing Nathan are scouting Kellerman's kid.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's so good.
Speaker 2: And he walks off the field saying, my dad's a douche.
Speaker 2: I wrote down because when you guys get to the
Speaker 2: dugout and he's drinking beer, he goes, are you going
Speaker 2: to sign me or lecture me? And you say, depends
Speaker 2: on what you're looking for in an agent, And I go,
Speaker 2: he called his dad a douche. He's a douche. It's
Speaker 2: like literally the notes I wrote down, like like I'm
Speaker 2: the eight year old being like this guy, Yeah, rude,
Speaker 2: who do you think you are? It's a good little twist.
Speaker 2: Was that a real athlete that guy? Or is he
Speaker 2: an actor?
Speaker 5: No? So that is Eric McIntyre and he is not
Speaker 5: a real baseball player. He had to learn kind of
Speaker 5: the mechanics.
Speaker 2: Of throwing for really, So he's an actor.
Speaker 5: He's an actor. Yeah, no, yeah, he's much more of
Speaker 5: a D and D guy than he is. How fun's
Speaker 5: that's that's kind of how I knew know of him
Speaker 5: afterwards since then he's a big, big into the D
Speaker 5: and D scenes. So, yeah, baseball, note his strike zone,
Speaker 5: but he played it well and listened to play. He
Speaker 5: played the hell out of that douchebag. I mean, because
Speaker 5: he was instantly punchable completely there. His walk even I
Speaker 5: don't know if his walk was a choice, but he
Speaker 5: didn't even open his mouth that walk alone. Yeah, that
Speaker 5: guy needs to get punched.
Speaker 2: Yeah he really he had. He had such an air
Speaker 2: of ego, like the way he moved his shoulders, everything,
Speaker 2: he really physicalized that. Well, yes, it's kind of cool
Speaker 2: to know that he's not actually that type of athlete
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 5: No, those were just good choices and it was also
Speaker 5: such a heightened version of that type of person in
Speaker 5: fact he has, like because I love thinking about like
Speaker 5: how did how did he get there? So like he
Speaker 5: went and he got like a little igloo container he
Speaker 5: filled it full of ice, and some beers like him
Speaker 5: walking to Its just it was so funny, man. But
Speaker 5: I love that at the end of it, Clay is
Speaker 5: just like he called us all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the fun part of it. I think
Speaker 2: it's a good twist that it's Kellerman's kid. And also
Speaker 2: it's fun to have him essentially be a foil to
Speaker 2: you and Nathan as buddy cops. It's fun to see
Speaker 2: you two in that role, the you know, moving around
Speaker 2: together and figuring it out. And yes, we get a
Speaker 2: little bit of perspective from this younger kid and you
Speaker 2: guys sitting having a conversation and him having to essentially
Speaker 2: be like I used to be that guy. It's it's cool,
Speaker 2: you know. The the passage of time that it shows
Speaker 2: is a really interesting device.
Speaker 5: Yes, and it was a clever way to show Nathan's value,
Speaker 5: his value added as an agent, that he was able
Speaker 5: to go. Yeah. I was like this, and you know,
Speaker 5: like it was great because as a viewer, I was like,
Speaker 5: this kid, he's a toll, Like no way. And then
Speaker 5: it was and that was sort of where Clay was leaning.
Speaker 5: And I liked that it was Nathan the counter bounce
Speaker 5: to go I don't know, Bud.
Speaker 2: I was like that had to break it to ye,
Speaker 2: he might be the next me. Yeah, room to grow.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 5: Honorable mentions.
Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, the pizza box fight between Austin
Speaker 4: and the pizza guy at the door, it was so good.
Speaker 2: And and and when Austin goes to the door, the
Speaker 2: guy's like, I don't mind, great, love that so great. Honestly,
Speaker 2: he was a scene stealer. I'm gonna I'm gonna give
Speaker 2: him my honorable mention pizza man. Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 2: Killed it Michael Mays for me.
Speaker 5: M yeah, I'm going to give mine to uh to
Speaker 5: Michael May. Yeah he did great. That whole storyline was
Speaker 5: so fun to watch, and I love what it's setting up.
Speaker 5: I do remember a bit of where this one goes. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it goes there.
Speaker 4: So Bean Jeans is asking us, with so many of
Speaker 4: the characters not having siblings on the show, who do
Speaker 4: you wish had a sibling and got to be a
Speaker 4: part of the show. And would that sibling have a
Speaker 4: love interest in a friend group?
Speaker 2: WHOA.
Speaker 5: I really wish Dan had had a sibling. I think
Speaker 5: that would have been good for well he did, he did.
Speaker 2: I was like, you got oh boy, guys, listen, I
Speaker 2: know there's a lot that's true. Well, it's interesting because
Speaker 2: Dan had a sibling. Obviously, you've got Nathan and Lucas.
Speaker 2: Haley's one of a bunch. I don't think Brooke or
Speaker 2: Peyton could have had siblings because they became each other's
Speaker 2: siblings because they were lonely only.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but maybe if Haley had a brother, that would
Speaker 4: have been nice because we only ever saw sisters.
Speaker 2: I mean who else could.
Speaker 5: Have I would have liked to see Clay have a sibling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that would have been fun.
Speaker 5: Because it would have been nice to see a baseline,
Speaker 5: because Clay has endured like immense trauma though especially we're
Speaker 5: going to find out how deep it goes, so it
Speaker 5: would have been interesting to see what that gene pool
Speaker 5: looks like without like what that what that person looks
Speaker 5: like without going through Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's always unsettling when you meet a character and then
Speaker 4: you never when you watch a show for this long
Speaker 4: and you never meet their parents, you never know anything
Speaker 4: about the life before. It just it makes it harder
Speaker 4: for you to see them as a fully realized person
Speaker 4: like you do so much to embody Clay, and then
Speaker 4: there's still all this empty backstory that we don't know
Speaker 4: other than what you tell us. I actually agree with you.
Speaker 4: I really would have loved to see a parent, or
Speaker 4: a sibling or just some one to give us a
Speaker 4: little more context.
Speaker 2: Well, and I think especially knowing where things go with
Speaker 2: you and how extreme that storyline yeah felt, and what
Speaker 2: you had to commit to, I think it would have
Speaker 2: probably been really special and grounding if we'd gotten to
Speaker 2: see that, Like I would have actually loved it.
Speaker 4: If Clay had a sister, Yeah, who could have said,
Speaker 4: you know, who was like taking care of the kid?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also who could have been like a great
Speaker 2: friend to Quinn's character to be like, listen, I know
Speaker 2: it feels crazy. This is my experience, this is you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I think you could have That would have
Speaker 2: been nice for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah. There would have been room for like a like
Speaker 4: a cool sist, just like kind of stage bouncing around,
Speaker 4: getting to know anybody, just being like, hey, you're acting.
Speaker 4: You're acting a fool, and hey, like stop dating two
Speaker 4: girls at the same time, dude, and hey like, don't
Speaker 4: worry about your girlfriend getting this job. You're something great's
Speaker 4: coming your way, and you know, like bouncing around.
Speaker 5: It wouldn't have been a wild if Clay had a sister.
Speaker 5: And then you realize this season in she was a
Speaker 5: ghost too because she had Oh my.
Speaker 4: God, the whole it's the line of the witch in
Speaker 4: the Wardrobe. The whole town is actually just dead and
Speaker 4: we're all.
Speaker 5: Here's my question.
Speaker 2: Incredible.
Speaker 5: I think so Bean Jeans, I think I'm correctly assuming
Speaker 5: is a nickname. What what does it come from? What
Speaker 5: is this listener's real name.
Speaker 4: Yeah, bean jeans, Oh genes Okay, it's g E n
Speaker 4: E s not jeans like blue jeans, because bean blue
Speaker 4: jeans actually sounds like really terrible, like you just had
Speaker 4: a gene ate a really bad Bullivan Dan and it
Speaker 4: did not turn out.
Speaker 2: Well for you. Oh God.
Speaker 4: But being jeans but with the ge Oh so, maybe
Speaker 4: it's maybe it's like a Boston thing. Maybe this person is,
Speaker 4: you know, genetics, their families from Boston, like Boston baked beans.
Speaker 5: Is that why?
Speaker 2: No bean town? Okay, could be I don't know, would
Speaker 2: be petite, could be a oh yeah, little person.
Speaker 5: Or it's just some type of legume that has become
Speaker 5: sentient and figured out how to use a computer.
Speaker 4: Perhaps we like your commitment, We like your commitment to
Speaker 4: the bit.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Indeed, should we spend a wheel, let's do it?
Speaker 6: Oh boy?
Speaker 2: Who is most likely to accidentally go viral for something embarrassing?
Speaker 2: Shan tell.
Speaker 5: She's a strong candidate.
Speaker 2: Not no, think she's so regal. She is. She's also
Speaker 2: clumsy and good. I just could totally see. I could
Speaker 2: totally see that. Amazing, amazing.
Speaker 5: I think I'm a strong front runner for that as well.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say you Rob, and I mean that
Speaker 2: as a compliment.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well listen, it's.
Speaker 2: Because you commit to the bed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a there's a I don't know why. There's
Speaker 5: a video of all of us. We're at some event.
Speaker 5: I don't think it's not a con, but we're like
Speaker 5: all there is a cast. It was that thing where
Speaker 5: they had uh Jackson. He came out in his green
Speaker 5: man suit and danced on stage for like four minutes straight,
Speaker 5: and then like we all came out and we sat
Speaker 5: on two couches and then for some reason, we're talking
Speaker 5: to an audience, like in an auditorium or something. For
Speaker 5: some reason.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was sashed me.
Speaker 5: To like, let's be honest. You probably just mentioned dancing,
Speaker 5: and we're like Rob does stupid dancing and I stand
Speaker 5: up and I like I danced and like I drop
Speaker 5: it like it's hot. And I don't know why, but
Speaker 5: that video still lives to this day. So, oh my god.
Speaker 2: It was at a theater in Wilmington.
Speaker 4: It was some kind of panel about this wasn't one
Speaker 4: hundredth episode maybe hundred.
Speaker 5: I wasn't there for.
Speaker 2: Oh fine, would have been the finale? I guess I
Speaker 2: think it must have been the finale.
Speaker 4: Yeah, some kind of panel. I do remember that though.
Speaker 4: That's funny. That video is still alive.
Speaker 5: Thanks Internet.
Speaker 2: Oh every poor fashion choice and silly little thing we've
Speaker 2: ever done immortalized.
Speaker 6: It's so sad.
Speaker 4: Well next episode, Season eight, episode sixteen.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gone. I like it here.
Speaker 4: That's from Annie and also the name of our next episode.
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