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Speaker 1: Hey, what is up everybody? Welcome to the Guiltiest Charge Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by the Chargers Podcast Network. My name is Stephen

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Speaker 1: and I am the host as always, and joining me

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Speaker 1: is my guy Tyler. Tyler, what's up? How you doing tonight?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great? Man. You know what's better than losing? Winning?

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Speaker 2: Winning is great, and winning two in a row is awesome.

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Speaker 2: So nice to just be here after two wins. I

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Speaker 2: could get used to this, and hey, guess what. You

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Speaker 2: can't lose on a bye week, So we're doing great.

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Speaker 1: No, can't lose on a bye week. Can get healthy

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Speaker 1: on a bye week? Hopefully that's what's happening this week.

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Speaker 1: So definitely got some injury stuff that we can potentially

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Speaker 1: dive into. Today. We're gonna kind of jump back a

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Speaker 1: little bit towards the Chargers and Raiders game, have some

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Speaker 1: kind of final wrap up coverage from that, and then

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Speaker 1: we're gonna gonna kind of zoom out and to evaluate

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Speaker 1: the Chargers where they're at after four games. This is

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Speaker 1: when the Chargers are going to self scout a little bit,

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Speaker 1: you know. Like I mentioned though, of course I'll try

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Speaker 1: and get healthy, but dive into some tendencies dive into

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Speaker 1: who has stood out, dive into who you know what

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Speaker 1: kind of needs to go right for this team going forward,

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Speaker 1: and it should be a lot of fun, should be

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Speaker 1: a good conversation before we get started. Tyler and I

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Speaker 1: are fans of the team just like you guys are.

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Speaker 1: We've been given this platform by the team and are

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Speaker 1: very grateful to have this platform and share our opinions.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, what we share on

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Speaker 1: the show is that it is our opinions first and foremost,

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Speaker 1: and what we share on the show is not always

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Speaker 1: reflective of the opinions of the Chargers organization themselves. They

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Speaker 1: are It's just me and Tyle here. We have this

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Speaker 1: platform and we're very grateful to be on it, and

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Speaker 1: you know, we're going to dive into this game first

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Speaker 1: and foremost, and then, like I said, zoom out a

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Speaker 1: little bit here, all right, Tyler. So we're recording this

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday night. We've had some time to kind of

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Speaker 1: simmer and reflect on the Chargers win over the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned two wins in a row for this team.

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Speaker 1: They're two and two heading into the bye week. What's

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Speaker 1: kind of your big general takeaway from the Chargers win

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Speaker 1: over the Raiders on Sunday afternoon. We have had that

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Speaker 1: time to sit back and reflect on it that it was.

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Speaker 2: A much needed figure it out game for a lot

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Speaker 2: of players or maybe just even parts of the team

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Speaker 2: that they really needed heading into the bye week. I'm

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Speaker 2: sort of in a way glad they had this game

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Speaker 2: in between, you know, the game against the Vikings where

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Speaker 2: they lost Mike Williams and then the Bible. But then

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Speaker 2: of course they have the Chiefs and the Cowboys coming up.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that they had this game to try to

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Speaker 2: sort through maybe a bit of what they wanted to

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Speaker 2: work on with him out, who could stand out, who

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Speaker 2: would work in this capacity, et cetera. But more than anything,

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Speaker 2: I'm really glad this defense got this game. Of course,

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Speaker 2: shout out Khalil Mack for having six sacs. That was

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Speaker 2: a ton of fun to watch in the stands, especially

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Speaker 2: when the Raiders fans are the ones next to you

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Speaker 2: watching it and they're going, eh, maybe we could have

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Speaker 2: cap that gay. I don't know, but we're happy to

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Speaker 2: have Khalil Mack. Of course, it was a solid to

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Speaker 2: great day for the defense overall. Sure there are some asterisks.

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Speaker 2: Devonte Adams wasn't in there the whole game, a noconnimal starting.

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Speaker 2: I get that, but still, you can only play who

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Speaker 2: is across from you, right, And we've seen the defense

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Speaker 2: occasionally against rookie quarterbacks like Davis Mills against the Texans

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Speaker 2: a few years ago, not quite have the performance that

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Speaker 2: we were hoping for, especially when they're missing a couple

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Speaker 2: trending in the right direction. They after that particular game,

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Speaker 2: I think are twenty sixth in defensive EPA per play,

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Speaker 2: which doesn't sound great, but they were thirty second, and

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Speaker 2: in this particular week they were tenth in EPA per

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Speaker 2: play as a defense and again missing Drow and James,

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Speaker 2: So I'm glad this offense got a bitter run to

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Speaker 2: and I'm really glad to see that this defense starting

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm confident that it could be for this team.

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Speaker 1: You know, this unit has closed the games out, like

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Speaker 1: the plan specifically from Brandon Staley this week was a

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Speaker 1: of their offense out. We know the Josh Jacobs led

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Speaker 1: He did have some explosive receptions for sure, But you know,

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Speaker 1: really starts with these edge rushers. You know, we've talked

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Speaker 1: Khalil Mack the six sacks, but the way that these

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Speaker 1: But you know, we haven't really seen him healthy. The

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Speaker 1: Two lee Ty Polotu is tied for second in the

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Speaker 1: So that to me, it was the kind of the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, compared to last year where Josh Jacobs had twenty

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Speaker 2: six carries for one hundred and forty four yards. I'll

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Speaker 2: certainly take seventeen carries for fifty eight yards, and like

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Speaker 2: you said, not a single run over ten yards. His

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Speaker 2: very concerned. I think all Charges fans were concerned. When

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Speaker 2: any moment, you know, just breaks that one run, that

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Speaker 2: mean the Chargers last year we saw what four or

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Speaker 2: Those backbreakers didn't have that, and Josh Jacobs never came

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Speaker 2: close to that. As a receiver maybe fine, but certainly

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Speaker 2: not as a runner. So fantastic there. I'm gonna flip

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Speaker 2: it back to you now, because you did watch the film,

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Speaker 2: and I noticed today that you pointed this out on

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Speaker 2: Raiders deciding to send more help towards two LEAs than

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Speaker 2: Khalil Mack's side, which it clearly did not work. So

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Speaker 2: I appreciate them for that, but what did you what

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Speaker 2: did you make of that.

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Speaker 1: I was shocked to see that approach and listen, like

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Speaker 1: Toole's played great, I understand sending help there, but this

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Speaker 1: most puzzling game plan decisions I've seen in a very

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Speaker 1: long time studling tape. And you know, you look at

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Speaker 1: he has the three run stops, and like it speaks

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Speaker 1: can't rip my head around, like you know, the charter

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Speaker 1: is prepared for Max Crosby, right, like they chipped the

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Speaker 1: double team, they slip protection. That's what you have to

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Speaker 1: way was shocking. I couldn't believe my eyes when I

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Speaker 2: Well, just let me know where I have to send

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Speaker 2: the fruit basket, the flowers, whatever. I appreciate that you

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Speaker 2: keep game planning and we'll see you in a few weeks. Steven,

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Speaker 2: after rewatching the tape, what is your big takeaway from

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my big takeaway is the way that Kellen Moore

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Speaker 1: fun to watch in the first half. You know, the

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Speaker 1: second half, I think rightfully. So you can can criticize

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Some of that is the Justin Herbert injury,

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Speaker 1: the Justin Herbert interception, which I did not love that

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Speaker 1: decision that he made to throw that football. But the

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Speaker 1: way that Kellen Moore came out in the first half.

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Speaker 1: You get the creative touches towards Darius Davis, you get

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Speaker 1: loved the balance that Kellen Moore came out with in

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Speaker 1: this in this first half. And like you mentioned, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of to start the show trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: what works and what doesn't without Mike Williams, without Corey Linsley.

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Speaker 1: One of the little changes that I really liked is

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Speaker 1: that they have been so downhill heavy, and I think

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Speaker 1: they were really intentional about attacking the second levels and

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Speaker 1: they were actively, actively trying to get the linebackers and

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Speaker 1: and it was very intentional in that. In that way,

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Speaker 1: they did some quick option passes. But you know, in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what a pleasant surprise. I mean, you never knew.

432
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 2: And this really felt like the here comes DeVante Adams

433
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 2: sort of game, or it comes Jacoby Myers breaks out

434
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: or whatever. And I think the longest pass completed it

435
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 2: was twenty five yards, which is sure technically still an

436
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 2: explosive pass, but you know what it's not. It's not

437
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 2: forty it's not fifty. It's not one of those game

438
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,639
Speaker 2: breaker big passes they have allowed, and Dean Marlin was

439
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 2: a huge part of that. I know the PFF has him.

440
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 2: I think it at zero passes broken up. I could

441
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 2: have sworn there was more than that. I could have

442
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 2: sworn he was in on more than that. So him

443
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 2: protecting the post was phenomenal and I was honestly surprised,

444
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 2: pleasantly surprised to see him out there and playing so well,

445
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 2: because again, you have a lot on your play it

446
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 2: after the buye and he can play like that and

447
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 2: just protect the post kind of in a way you

448
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: haven't really seen since. Like it felt bury Trey Bostony,

449
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 2: you know, to me, the way he was protecting the post,

450
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 2: I thought, that's very long ago, but that's kind of

451
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 2: how it felt, you know, like he's always the security

452
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 2: guy back there, so it had to have. That from

453
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 2: a guy who was just brought to the practice squad

454
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 2: of a month ago or whatever, is really impressive.

455
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought he played well. I thought Will Clapp

456
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: played pretty well too. I know people were worried about that.

457
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 1: I thought Will Clapp deserved a shout out too, so

458
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 1: so good depth players. I think you know, the team

459
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 1: obviously needs these guys to play well without some of

460
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 1: their star players, and I thought some of them had

461
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: some really good moments on Sunday. All right, So we're

462
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 1: gonna zoom out here a little bit. Like we mentioned,

463
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: the Chargers were able to get to two and two

464
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Speaker 1: here and really right the ship, and I think most

465
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: of their goals are are still right there in front

466
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Speaker 1: of them. You look at this AFC as a whole,

467
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: and there's no undefeated team right now. You know, the

468
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,479
Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Bills, the Ravens and the Dolphins are

469
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 1: each three and one, and then like half the conferences

470
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: two and two right now. So, Tyler, where where do

471
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Speaker 1: you kind of want, like envision the Chargers in the

472
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: AFC right now? Both of us kind of had some

473
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 1: really strong expectations for this team heading into the season

474
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: two and two, with this schedule that they have coming up.

475
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Speaker 1: Where do you kind of see the Chargers fitting in

476
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: from an AFC perspective?

477
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 2: So before the season, I predicted they would not win

478
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: the division, but they would be one of the I

479
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 2: think the fifth or sixth seed in the AFC, and

480
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: I definitely think that is still in play. Unfortunately, right now,

481
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are still one of the class teams in

482
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 2: the AFC, and again, until they collapse for whatever reason,

483
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 2: I'm going to continue to assume that they're going to

484
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: win the West. And they are three and one and

485
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: they are leading the West right now. Again no surprise.

486
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: I think the Chargers, in terms of the games that

487
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: they won and the games versus the games that they played,

488
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: I would have loved to see them be three and

489
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: one at this point, lose to one of the Dolphins

490
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: or the Titans, but handle business against the Vikings and

491
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: the Raiders. Two and two isn't terrible. What I think

492
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 2: really benefits them the most isn't necessarily where they're at

493
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: as much as other teams. I think that, for example,

494
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: the Jets, losing Aaron Rodgers five minutes into a game

495
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 2: helps them tremendously when it comes to that game. If

496
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: you had asked me right now, looking at the Chargers

497
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 2: as they were as we've watched them, if they had

498
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and we're going to assume that he played well,

499
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: would they beat the Jets? I'd say no. But with

500
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson out there, you feel a lot better now

501
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 2: that team's still going to fight, don't get me wrong,

502
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 2: but it just helps that much. The Bengals are definitely

503
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: not the team that they were hoping to be this

504
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: season at all, and they are potentially just out of

505
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: the postseason picture as is. So I think the Chargers

506
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: are in a really good spot one because I think

507
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: they're building some momentum even with some injuries, although they

508
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 2: will get some guys back after the buye. But also

509
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: the AFC has just not quite been exactly as strong

510
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 2: as we would have thought, but we'll see. It is

511
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: very early, of course, so many things can change. But

512
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 2: I like where the Chargers are at right now, and

513
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 2: teams like the Steelers and the Jaguars this week that

514
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 2: are ahead of them in the sixth and the eighth seed,

515
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 2: they are playing some difficult teams this week or yeah,

516
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 2: this week is the Jaguars are playing the Bills this week.

517
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: The Ravens are playing the Steelers this week, and I

518
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 2: think those two teams in front of the Chargers will

519
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: both lose, and again I think that'll benefit the team.

520
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: Although again the Chargers don't win, so they don't get

521
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: a win here, but they might get some help in

522
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: the long run.

523
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think The biggest thing that's benefited the Chargers

524
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: that's outside of their control is how the AFC North

525
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: has looked so far. You know, I think I was

526
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: bullish on the Steelers as a casual fan. I loved

527
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: with ideas in the draft, and you know, Mike Tomlin

528
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: is just such a great coach. But you know, they

529
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: have been one of the worst offenses in the league

530
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Speaker 1: through four weeks. So have the Bengals, and some of

531
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Speaker 1: that is health related to Joe Burrow, right, But these

532
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: are two teams who had like legitimate division title hopes,

533
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: who had you know, the Bengals were considered a clear

534
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowl threat heading into the season, and now they're

535
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: kind of scraping and klawon to try and get back

536
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: in relevant. We'll see where kind of the health goes

537
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: of both of those two quarterbacks. But you look at

538
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: the Bengals right now, and they they kind of got

539
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: like their butts kicked against the Titans. And you know,

540
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: we saw the Chargers against the Titans a few weeks ago,

541
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: and to lose that game as a Bengals fan, you know,

542
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: twenty seven to three, like that's that's got to be

543
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: pretty disheartening for the way that that went down vintage

544
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry performance, you know, which against the Bengals defense

545
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: he didn't really see coming. So those two teams being

546
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: it kind of stuck in the mud as they are,

547
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: is very beneficial for the Chargers. You mentioned the Jets.

548
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers reportedly says he's gonna play again. I don't

549
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's I don't know where that's

550
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: gonna end up. But weirdly enough, like the AFC South

551
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: is kind of good right now. I mean that any

552
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: of the Colts are too and two, the Texans are

553
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: too and two, the Jags are two and two. So

554
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: I think the AFC is still pretty muddy as we

555
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: thought it would be. It's just kind of like different

556
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: teams you feel better about right now. But I think

557
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: the Chargers have this opportunity ahead of them to really

558
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: gain some separation. You know, I'm worried about the Cowboys

559
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: right I think the Cowboys defense is fantastic, But the

560
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys played forty nine Ers this week. It's a primetime game,

561
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have a semi short week, you know,

562
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: playing with the Chargers next Monday after that. You know,

563
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: that's kind of a schedule favor for the Chargers after

564
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: a bye week, so you have this opportunity against the

565
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: Cowboys and then against the Chiefs to really start creating

566
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: some separation from those other teams that we're talking about

567
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: that are kind of struggling right now. So if you

568
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: can get to three and three, if you get to

569
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: if you can get to four and two, then I

570
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: think the Chargers can really like create some true, true

571
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: momentum and you know, still reach their potential this year.

572
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: I mean, if they can even get one of the

573
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 2: wins against the Cowboys or Chiefs like that is incredibly impressive.

574
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: I know no one's going to love three and three,

575
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: but you go one and one in those games and

576
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: you're feeling pretty good against the Cowboys or an excellent team.

577
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: They are much better when they're healthy, believe it or not.

578
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: I know the Cardinals beat them, but they look significantly

579
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 2: better than of course, the Chiefs are the Chiefs. Another

580
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: team that I think helps a lot too. What is

581
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: one of the teams that we've picked every single year

582
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: basically for the Chargers to lose in this particular place

583
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: against this particular team, that's Denver, And I think that

584
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 2: look I get it, no matter what with this Broncos team.

585
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: There's always an issue when the Chargers go to Denver.

586
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: But this Denver team is really bad. Like this Denver

587
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: team almost actively looks like it's tanking, except for occasionally

588
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: on the offense when they look all right. But this

589
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: defense is not nearly what I thought it was going

590
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: to be. So I think things like that help. I

591
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: think the Patriots being one and three, we'll see where

592
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: they are at the end of things. Of course, again,

593
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: another team and it's at Foxborough that gives the Chargers fits.

594
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: But games like that, of those potential swing games, I

595
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: think starting to lean more in the Chargers favor as

596
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: long as the Chargers can stay healthy and those teams

597
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: are kind of still not finding their footing just yet.

598
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think playing those teams late in the season

599
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: is going to be helping. I mean, they play the

600
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: Broncos in Week fourteen and then again in week seventeen.

601
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: The Broncos could be active shoppers at the deadline here

602
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: coming up in the next few weeks. Their season could

603
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: essentially be over. The Patriots, same kind of thing there

604
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: in week thirteen. They play the Raiders again in week fifteen,

605
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: it's in Vegas on a Thursday night, but that's another

606
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: team that could be sellers at the deadline. So the

607
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: back half of the schedule for the Chargers, I think

608
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people were worried about, but I think

609
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: after four weeks you probably feel really good about it.

610
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: You just have to get past this two game window

611
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: I think is the toughest two game window on the

612
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: schedule remaining coming out of the bye week. But that's

613
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: where the Chargers at. Like I said, if you can

614
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: get three and three, you're in a great spot because

615
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: this schedule eases up pretty nicely for the Chargers after

616
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: that that Week eight game against the Chiefs.

617
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk about the game next week, of course,

618
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: but Kellen Moore's gotten now two weeks and an extra

619
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 2: Sunday to prepare for his former team, So it should

620
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: be a good one.

621
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it should be a good one. All Right. We're

622
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 1: gonna dish out some awards here for the Chargers. We

623
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 1: do this every single year on our channel, and hopefully

624
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: you guys enjoy the segments here, you know, quarterly awards,

625
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: mid season awards. It's always fun to kind of revisit

626
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: things and see where they're at for this respective team. Tyler,

627
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: let's start with your favorite storyline of the season so far.

628
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: Oh, favorite storyline of the season. I think it's going

629
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: to be how Keenan Allen has found the fountain of youth.

630
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: I think this was a player that was potentially a

631
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: trade candidate or a cut candidate, certainly this offseason and

632
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: potentially even next offseason. Gone, No, thank you. I'm just

633
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: going to have the best start to my career and

634
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,239
Speaker 2: I'm going to throw for a touchdown. I'm going to

635
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: have four hundred and twenty four receiving yards thirty five catches,

636
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: the highest yards per route run of my entire career,

637
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: and I'm going to show you that I plan on

638
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: being here for a very long time. Keenan Allen is

639
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: my favorite player on the team. I got my season

640
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: tickets the same year that he was drafted. And you know,

641
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: a lot has changed for this team. They've changed cities,

642
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: they've changed stadiums a couple of times. Keenan all has

643
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: been a constant and I've been dying for him to

644
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: get his deep playoff run, you know, Super Bowl if

645
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: he can, obviously, and him turning back the clock and

646
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: being one of the best receivers in the league, both

647
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: in terms of rosstats, efficiency, oh and no drops. By

648
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: the way, It's been an awesome storyline. I've loved watching

649
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: him play so far, and he's only going to continue

650
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: to rock up numbers and really inge towards that Larry

651
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: Fitzgerald kind of career where he just continues to be productive.

652
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: And I think as en route too if he can

653
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: continue to play this well for much longer with Justin Herbert,

654
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: and I don't see why I should doubt him trending

655
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: towards getting to those Hall of Fame kind of stats.

656
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you want you add in some potential postseason

657
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: successes and potentially a Super Bowl that would definitely cement him.

658
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: There some people asking me this week about like what

659
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: did the Raiders do to see if Keenanlake was being limited?

660
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: I think, you know, the Chargers were not able to

661
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: get to him on a couple of things because of pressure.

662
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: They didn't run a ton of plays in the second half.

663
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: So I don't think the Raiders necessarily, like did anything

664
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: to limit keenanel on this week since you brought him up,

665
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: I do want to mention that out, but I think

666
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: that's a good one storyline for me has to be

667
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: too Lee man like tu Lee, and the way that

668
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: he has played has just been a true treat to watch.

669
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: And like we felt good about his run defense, we

670
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 1: felt good about his ability to you know, just like

671
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: create some hustle snaps. But he's actively in the defensive

672
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year conversation through four and I think

673
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: rightfully so. I mean, he's taking double teams away from

674
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, which is so funny to see on tape still,

675
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: but you know, it's just elevating the floor of this defense,

676
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: and I think things are really starting to round into

677
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 1: form for that specific union as a defensive line, as

678
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: an addresser group. So what Tooley is doing right now

679
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: for me has to be my favorite storyline.

680
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: You and I have been discussing different awards we could

681
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: hand out today best play on defense, may be best

682
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: player at their position, and what we've been the most

683
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: wrong about best storyline, best play, best player, defensive player.

684
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: I feel like Tooley could win all of them. He's

685
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: been awesome and that's why he is one of the

686
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: best storylines. If you went first and said Keenan, I

687
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: would have said, Tuley, what he's done is phenomenal. Again, again,

688
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: I disagree with the game plan from the Raiders, but

689
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: have at it. Taking pressure off of Khalil Mack and

690
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: freeing up Khalil Mack that's wonderful. And obviously we've seen

691
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: him free up Joey Bosa as a rusher as well.

692
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: What he's done in through the first four games as

693
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: a two way player against the run and as a

694
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: pass rusher has been outstanding. The Chargers got themselves as

695
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: steal and you know, you rarely hear about draft steals,

696
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: but that tends to be more where we think they're

697
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 2: going to be drafted versus where they're actually drafted. In

698
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: this case, you know, I think second round is kind

699
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: of where Tully was supposed to go. And the Chargers

700
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: just found themselves one of the best edge rushers in

701
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: the draft in the second round. And this was a

702
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: pretty good edge group overall, like some guys at the

703
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: top are very good. A lot of depth of this

704
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 2: group as well. The Chargers needed to find and they

705
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 2: really could have found any one of like fifteen different

706
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: edge rushers on Day one or Day two, and they

707
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: found the one that might be the defensive rookie of

708
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: the Year front Runner, Like, that's that's pretty darn good

709
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: heck of a pick.

710
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was. Chris Rahm for ESPN did

711
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: a feature on Killing Max Day and he asked Khalil

712
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: like what his favorite sack of the six was, and

713
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: he said the first one because it also involved two

714
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: le because it was like something that they've been workshopping,

715
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: something that's been like a work in progress for them.

716
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: It just kind of clicked and Tooley was able to,

717
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: you know, take both of the Raiders blockers with him

718
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: and then freed up Khalil for a really nasty loop

719
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: and finish and this trio and really, you know, Chris

720
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: ruff in here as well. You can really tell that

721
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: they all just feed off of each other. You know,

722
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa gets that sack against the Vikings and gives

723
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 1: a huge running hug to Tuley. Right this week, Tooley

724
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: gets a run stop and he does he does his

725
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: tea right, and you see Khalil Mack right behind him

726
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: doing the tea also, And I just I love that,

727
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: you know, seeing the camaraderie of this group has really

728
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: stood out to me, and they love playing with each other,

729
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: that the energy that they all bring just feeds off

730
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: of each other and Tooley's taking attention away from them.

731
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: They're taking away attention from Tuley and it just it

732
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: just works like the three of them, it just works

733
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: so well. And once Joey gets healthy, like I think,

734
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: really this edge Rusher group.

735
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: Is going to be pretty scary once we get to

736
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 2: that point. Yeah, that's that's disgusting. So we've now had

737
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: the Klimax six a game. We've had two lead be

738
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: excellent throughout the year. Joey Bossa has had some great

739
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: moments but limited and they're all going to be back

740
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: after the buy. It seems like they're all going to

741
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 2: be back and as healthy as they could be after

742
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: the BUYE. That's going to be nasty. We'll see if

743
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: Kansas City enjoys their regrets, maybe perhaps their decisions at

744
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: tackle and we'll see what they got that. I could

745
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: see them having a huge game, that one.

746
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: For sure for sure. All right, let's do best play

747
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: on offense, Tyler. I think for me, my choice is

748
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: pretty clear. I think that you have to go with

749
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: the double pass. I think that's been something that we've

750
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: been waiting for. You know, Keenan has been talking about

751
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: how much he wants to throw a touchdown pass for

752
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: the last few years, and obviously coming in the game

753
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: that Mike Williams becomes injured, I think just only adds

754
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: to that. But kind of harkening back here, it was

755
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: something that the team was setting up and setting up

756
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: and setting up, and then right as they did it,

757
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 1: you know that they were going to hit on it. Frankly,

758
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: Keenan could have thrown a touchdown to Joshah Palmer in

759
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: that instance. They were both wide open and a ton

760
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 1: of grass to run. So super cool moment, I think,

761
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: you know, looking back on it, and obviously means more

762
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: because of Mike, you know, getting that touchdown in that

763
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: game that he gets injured. But it's just been something

764
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: that has been building for years and for this offense specifically,

765
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: like they've been really kind of harping in on that

766
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: specific look. So double pass for me, best play on

767
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: offense so far. I love that.

768
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: I love that josh Palmer and Mike Williams are so

769
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: wide open that keenan On had to read the defense,

770
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 2: no doubt he had to like make a decision of

771
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: which wide open person he was going to throw it to.

772
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 2: Like you talked about the offense set that up in

773
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: the same way they set up the touchdown pass to

774
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: Keenan in the Titans game off of throwing it up

775
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: to Mike usually on a screen. Oops, there's goes Keenan

776
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: on that way, set up a screen this way, or

777
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: throwing to Mike Williams this way. Love that. That's a

778
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: fantastic one. That was going to be one of my

779
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 2: choices for sure.

780
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: For me.

781
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: It's a bit recency biased, I guess. But the fadeaway

782
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: three point or whatever you want to call it, not

783
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: necessarily a game winner, but the game ender from Justin

784
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: Herbert against the Las Vegas Raiders, I mean, and the

785
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: story was perfect right like a is he clutches? He not?

786
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, National media. It was the throw of

787
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: the day with the game on the line, third and ten,

788
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: backed up at your own eleven. Raiders fans are getting loud.

789
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: There's no Mike Williams to help you. There's no Mike

790
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: Whimsic like, go catch that phenomenal pass right, No Cord

791
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 2: Lindsay to protect you. No Austin Eckler as your security outlet.

792
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: You've got a fractured finger or whatever it was. You're

793
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: the AFC West rival across from you. You've got to

794
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 2: get it done. There was pressure in his face, moved up,

795
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: flicked it through it like it was nothing. And watching

796
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 2: that from the stands from my side, we were in

797
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: that end zone and you're just going, no way, did

798
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: he just hit this? Boom Josh Palmer. Sideline goes wild,

799
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 2: crowd goes wild, and I really thought that the Raiders

800
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 2: were gaining momentum to go win that game. Herbert went, Nah,

801
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: don't worry about it. Throws at fifty one yards, game over.

802
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: And that was my favorite play on offense so far

803
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: this season.

804
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, cool as the other side of the pillow man.

805
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: That was so just much fun to watch on tape.

806
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: It was great to watch on TV too. You know,

807
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: during the broadcast, Trent Green, who has been harping on

808
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: the fact that Justin has this splint on his finger,

809
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: he can't crypt the football. They're not gonna be able

810
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: to throw it downfield. They're not gonna be able to

811
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: go under center, and then for Justin to come out

812
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: and and Trent Green is actually like, oh my gosh,

813
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna throw the football, like he was shocked that

814
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: they were gonna throw the football and Justin just dropped

815
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: a dime, you know, fifty yards in the air to

816
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: Joshua Palmer. So just like casual pocket management, that was

817
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: That was a great one and I think very deservative

818
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 1: of the best play on offense. All right, so let's

819
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 1: do best play on defense. What's your choice here?

820
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go recency bias again, and I'm going

821
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: to go with the Santai Samuel Junior's pick against the

822
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: Raiders and a that we just saw. I'm sure we

823
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: said all the things, you know, AFC West rivals, all

824
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. But I've been talking about this

825
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: defense and in particular how we as fans in the

826
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: stands need something to believe in and we need to

827
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: believe that this defense is going to get it done

828
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 2: in the end. You know, the more belief we have

829
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: they're going to come up with a big play, the

830
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: more we're going to cheer, the more we're going to

831
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: you know, support the team as much as we can

832
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 2: and show up to these games. And again, believe there's

833
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: a feeling in the stands even if nobody says it

834
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: that you know, Justin Herbert will get it done, or

835
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: you know, maybe the defense isn't going to hold in

836
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: this particular spot. We've needed some positive momentum that this

837
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: defense is going to hold. And again I thought the

838
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: Raiders were going to go and win that game. And

839
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 2: Sante Samuel Junior steps in front of the pass and

840
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 2: gets an interception, and you know, maybe we won't talk

841
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: about the run back or the lack of run back,

842
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: I'll say that much. But in that moment, and it's

843
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 2: very different when you're sitting in the stand, there's an

844
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: exhale and a sort of a different kind of like

845
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: exclamation that you make when there's relief and you realize

846
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 2: like you were so nervous and so tense because you thought,

847
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,959
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, the Chargers might lose this game. Because

848
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: here come the Raiders and they're moving. The exhale and

849
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: the excitement following that interception and turning to my mom

850
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: to my left and giving her a huge hug and

851
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: jumping up and down. That was the play on defense

852
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: for me of the year. One because it did help

853
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: the Chargers beat the Raiders, and two because we believed,

854
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 2: like we started to believe, you know, the defense can

855
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: get it done. Because Sante Samuel Junior picked it off,

856
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: and so now just again, but the next time we

857
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: see the Chargers, like it'll be the next game against

858
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: the Cowboys, and maybe we'll cheer just that much harder,

859
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: that much louder, because you know what, even if the

860
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 2: other team, the Cowboys, gets right to the three yard line,

861
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: we still have a chance. And looked, I mean like

862
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: the previous week the Vikings, they got to the one

863
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: yard line and the Chargers kept them out. And this

864
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: time the Raiders were almost there to high this game up.

865
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: The Chargers got the interception. So to me, that that

866
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: belief building, that belief is so huge with this team

867
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 2: and for fans.

868
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to talk about things you can believe in.

869
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: The Chargers right now in the red zone are performing

870
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: at a really high level on both sides of the football.

871
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: In the last three games, the Chargers are only allowing

872
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: a red zone touchdown on forty six percent of their

873
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: respective drives. That's eighth best in the league right now.

874
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: And you know, credit to Brandon say, they's unit. Man,

875
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: they've really stepped up and answered calls in the red

876
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: zone and come up with crucial, crucial, you know plays

877
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: it to win these games and you want to talk

878
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: about Asante's play, like I think Kenneth Murray's interception is

879
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: right there with it too. Something that you know, Dania

880
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: Popper wrote about was that Nick Neman had prepared and prepared,

881
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: They saw this look on film and they were waiting

882
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: for it and waiting for it all game long. And

883
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: then the Vikings finally go to it and Nick Neman

884
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: makes a play on the football, bats it back to JT. Woods,

885
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: who batted back to Kenneth Murray, and you know, it

886
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: just was the again building things. I think is something

887
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: that we've kind of talked about today on this show.

888
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: Everything was building towards that specific moment because the Chargers

889
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: were so prepared for that specific look that the Vikings

890
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: ran so frequently, and they finally went to it and

891
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: literally with the game on the line, and Nick Nemon

892
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: read it out perfectly, made a great play on the

893
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: football in place of Eric Kendricks, who is dealing with

894
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: all this stuff with his dad and not able to

895
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: play in Minnesota. So it's these role players got to

896
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: step up in these key moments. Nick Nemon did that, JT.

897
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: Wiz did that, Kenneth Murray did that, and they were

898
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: able to win that game as well. So again, the

899
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: red zone defense has been really, really solid for this team,

900
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: and these plays are specifically why they're doing what they're

901
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 1: doing in the red zone right now.

902
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I are on the same page. That

903
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: would have been my other pick if I didn't pick

904
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: the other one that I just had, because I mean,

905
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: that was really the start of the Chargers finally finishing defense.

906
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: And now they've done it two weeks in a row. Well,

907
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: and behold they are two and oh during that two

908
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: week span.

909
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's do best or biggest surprise thus far? Tyler,

910
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: what's your answer there?

911
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 2: I think it has to go to Kenneth Murray, and

912
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: in particular week two and week three when he was

913
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 2: the green dot guy, and he was again in week four,

914
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: but Eric Kendricks came back. I think that I, at

915
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: least and many fans were unsure of how things would

916
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: go with Eric Hendricks out, with Kenneth Murray getting the

917
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: green dot and Derrick Henry and Tajy Spears next. And

918
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,959
Speaker 2: what did Kenneth Murray do? He had maybe the best

919
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: game of his career. Brandon Staley says, it's the best

920
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: game he's seen from Kenneth Murray in the two and

921
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: a half years that he's been here, And yeah, I

922
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: would certainly agree. I am pleasantly surprised by how he's

923
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: played this season, because look, there's a lot we can

924
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: say about training camp and how good he looked, but

925
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 2: that is training camp. Things can change, not everything holds

926
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: over into the regular season. But Kenneth Murray, in particular

927
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: in Week two and Week three when he had to

928
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: be the guy, looked really really strong playing downhill. You know,

929
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: I think in particular, you know, statistically more productive in

930
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: Week two against Derrick Henry and then you know, solid

931
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 2: in Week three as well, but also came down with

932
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: that Week three interception and just set the tone for

933
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: the Chargers defense. So the Chargers, you know, it's not

934
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: close against the Titans. If he's not playing well, I

935
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 2: know they lost. It's certainly I don't think a win

936
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: against the Vikings when things are close. They really needed him,

937
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 2: and so that has been a big surprise for me.

938
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: He's currently on pace for the most tackles, run stops

939
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: and pressures of his career.

940
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: There we go love to see that. One biggest surprise

941
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: I think Kenneth Murray's a good choice. I like, there

942
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: are some smaller ones that I think we could talk about,

943
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: but I want to give a shout out here to

944
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: Jamari Sawier. Not because I'm necessarily like prize that he

945
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: is playing well, but the way that he has just

946
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: transitioned to playing guard has been seamless, like he is

947
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: just really playing at a very very high level. There's

948
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: some kind of id issues, especially against stunts that need

949
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: to get corrected between him and him and Trey Pipkins.

950
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: That was Max Crosby's last sack of the day. It

951
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 1: was Jamari just kind of held on for too long

952
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: on that stunt gave Max Crosby essentially a free runway

953
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: happened in Week one against the Dolphins. But if you

954
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: just kind of isolate him in like one on one situations,

955
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: both as a run blocker and as a pass blocker,

956
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: the dude is just stonewall out there, like he is

957
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: actively shutting down these other defensive tackles. Jeffrey Simmons obviously

958
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: got him a couple of times. He gets everyone. He's

959
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 1: potentially defensive player of the Year right now in the NFL.

960
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: So the way that Jamari has just come in and

961
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: beat and been such a calming presence for this team. Again,

962
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: I knew that he was good, right. We all know

963
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: that Jamari Sawier handled his business at left tackle, but

964
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: the way that he's playing at guard should give Charger

965
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: fans a ton of confidence, I think in what this

966
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: offensive line can do, hopefully when healthy, if Corey Lindsay

967
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: is able to come back from his medical situation. But Jamari,

968
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: like he's just been nails man like, He's just calm

969
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: and collected out there. He has answers for what opposing

970
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: defensive tackles are doing for him, and if you dare

971
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: and try and bowl rush him, you will lose. Like

972
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: he is so strong up there at the point of attack,

973
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: and it's just been so much fun to watch him

974
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: just step in and ride away, just be nails for

975
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: this team.

976
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 2: One of my favorite players. Jamori is awesome. As he

977
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: said himself, the only starter on the offensive line who

978
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: can go to the bank and pull out his entire account.

979
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: Poor guy.

980
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: But hey, man, like he said even the interview when

981
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: I interviewed him after he got drafted, like he didn't

982
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: care where he got drafted, where he went. He's here.

983
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 2: He's a Charger now he's gonna give the team everything

984
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: that he he has. And I loved watching him on

985
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: film in college. I loved talking to him. I've loved

986
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: watching him in practice, even watching him at left tackle.

987
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: And we thought he'd be good, right Like he was

988
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: projected to be a guard, and so we thought he'd

989
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: be a good guard. But there's that big switch from me.

990
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: You just played an entire season at left tackle. Now

991
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: go figure out right guard. Go flip sides and go

992
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: to the interior and figure it out. And to see

993
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 2: and to hear that he has is awesome. And when

994
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: they showed his face during the national anthem, I knew

995
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: the Charges were going to win. He just was like,

996
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: Jamari is the nicest guy in the world. He's got

997
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: to be like him. Joshu Ma Kelly, some of the

998
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: nicest guys on the team. I'm not. It's very different

999
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 2: Sebastian Joseph Day as well, Like, I would never cross

1000
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: that guy. Jamorrow is awesome. Yeah, don't don't bowl rush

1001
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: that guy. That is a former five star recruiter, played

1002
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: at Georgia and shut down Aiden Hutchinson at tackle. He

1003
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: is not afraid of anybody and he'll take care of business.

1004
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well our last one here. I want

1005
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: to frame this as more of like an outstanding player conversation.

1006
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: I think if you frame it as MVP, I think

1007
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: that's very clearly Justin Herbert, and this might still very

1008
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: well be Justin Herbert. But most outstanding Player I think

1009
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: allows a more kind of wider scope. And you know,

1010
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 1: Justin has been awesome. We talked about him a ton

1011
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: on our last episode on this channel, being after the

1012
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: best game of his career, most outstanding player to me, shocker.

1013
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm going back to the offensive line. I'm going back

1014
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: to Rashawn Slater. I think he had his worst game

1015
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: of his career against the Raiders, and he was still outstanding,

1016
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,479
Speaker 1: Like he was still playing at a really high level.

1017
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: You know, the things that he's able to do physically

1018
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: are just insane to me. Every single week. There was

1019
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: a rep where Max Crosby is trying to turn the

1020
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: corner and he spins on him and Rashawn like loses

1021
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: a step. But then right as Max Crosby is about

1022
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: to hit Justin Herbert, Rashawn just steps right in front him.

1023
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: Anchors down. You're not touching my guy. Just the recovery

1024
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: skills on a week to week basis are really just

1025
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: insane for me to watch. The transition for the run

1026
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: scheme is an underrated storyline for him because you know,

1027
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: it was a lot of outside zone at Northwestern. You know,

1028
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 1: the Chargers in the first two seasons of his career

1029
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: a lot of outside zone. It's a lot of getting

1030
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: him on the movement, getting him on the edge, getting

1031
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: him up to the second level, and he was awesome

1032
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: at that. But this year they're doing a lot more

1033
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: gap scheme, they're doing a lot more counter, they're doing

1034
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 1: a lot more power concepts, and some draft analysts would

1035
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: have said, like, hey, like, if you're gonna get Rashaan

1036
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: in a power scheme, he's got to play guard. And

1037
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: right now he's just blocking the run at an incredible rate.

1038
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 1: ESPN has him in the top ten in run block

1039
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: win rate right now. His run block grade on PFF

1040
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: is really high, and you see it on tape. You

1041
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: see him just moving folks in the game, setting the edge,

1042
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: ceiling the backside edge. He's just doing everything that the

1043
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: Chargers could ask of him. And oh, by the way,

1044
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: like he can just be left on an island against anyone.

1045
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: There were a couple of times where the Chargers against

1046
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: the Raiders were max protecting and you got a double team,

1047
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: a double team, a double team, and then Rashaan one

1048
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: on one because you know that that guy is just

1049
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: nails and can shut down that side. So again, I

1050
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: won't be grudge anybody for trusting Justin Herbert and mentioning

1051
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: him here, But Rashaun Slater, to me, just is is

1052
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: playing at a truly like all pro level right now

1053
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: and he absolutely should be recognized with that kind of

1054
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: honor at the end of the season. He's been lights

1055
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: out for this team so far.

1056
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: I've never seen he rarely loses, but I've never seen

1057
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: a Chargers offensive line but at least not for some time,

1058
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: that could even lose ninety nine percent of his REP

1059
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: and then still finished with a win because it's just

1060
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: that last second switch to power and anchor that he

1061
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: can flip. And it's every week you see Brendon Thorn,

1062
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 2: Duke many Weather, Jeff Schwartz, like anybody Baldy's breakdowns, it's

1063
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,479
Speaker 2: always Rashawn Slater. Oh, maybe he might lose the first

1064
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: half of the REP and then it's just he shuts

1065
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 2: it down the second half. You know more about offensive

1066
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 2: line play, you can appreciate it more. But just even

1067
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: just from my perspective and any general fan perspective, you

1068
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: have to admire what he can do. Anytime you can

1069
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 2: watch offensive line play and just see highlights that aren't

1070
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 2: even necessarily pancakes or knocked down, just elite offensive line play,

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Speaker 2: it's awesome to see. Like I love watching him play,

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Speaker 2: and that would have been the person that I had picked,

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Speaker 2: because I had we had talked about Tooley, We'd talked

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Speaker 2: about Keenan Allen, So in that case, I will go

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Speaker 2: with Justin Herbert. We've talked about Keen, we talked about Tuley,

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Speaker 2: we talked about Rishawn Slater. But this game is not

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Speaker 2: nearly anywhere close to to and two they're somehow like

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00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 2: zero to five if they don't have Justin Herbert, like

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Speaker 2: they somehow lost an extra game. If they don't have

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert. The guy has been nails, and every single

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Speaker 2: game he's put the team on his back and been

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00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: everything that you wanted from him, and in some cases more.

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Speaker 2: You know, we said that the game against the Vikings,

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00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: we both agree is the best game we've ever seen

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Speaker 2: him play. Maybe some agreed, disagree, fine, but considering the circumstances,

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00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 2: I thought that was his best game and you agree

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00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: with me as well, you know, the fadeaway fifty one

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00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: yarder against the Raiders to put things away. The way

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00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 2: he's played. The awesome thing is he's played so well

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Speaker 2: and is I think with more wins, inching towards getting

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00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: to that MVP conversation at some point. But there's so

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00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: much more to go with this offense and so much

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00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 2: more room for him to go and this offense to go,

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Speaker 2: and he's going to get there, like the offense is

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00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: going to get there with health, they're going to continue

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00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: to be excellent. And he's trying different things. This is

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Speaker 2: one of these smartest guys in the NFL, obviously coming

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Speaker 2: out of college. Very intelligent human being. I respect anybody

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Speaker 2: who's a science major. Is one myself. The difference is

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Speaker 2: I can't go on the field and do what he does.

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Speaker 2: He is just awesome and the fact that he's doing

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Speaker 2: this in an offense that he's had to learn after

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Speaker 2: learning another offense, after learning another one, after having to

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Speaker 2: learn three different ones in college is incredible and I

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00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 2: just love that he is trying things out and letting

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00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 2: things go while still playing at an excellent level. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if the Vikings, we get his excellent play against the Blitz,

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00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: against the Raiders, we get movements and the way that

1109
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: he can juke out this player stiff from this player,

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Speaker 2: maneuver in the pocket. I mean, just outstanding play from

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Speaker 2: him overall. And you've got some big games coming up.

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Speaker 2: You got that game against the Cowboys, got the game

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00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,479
Speaker 2: against the Chiefs. Those are just the kinds of games

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Speaker 2: for Justin Herbert rises to the occasion. Whether the team

1115
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: wins or not, I don't know, but I know that

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert is going to be excellent. And so for me,

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00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: you know, call it MVP, call it best player, you

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Speaker 2: name it. Justin Herbert's my guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you get primetime Justin Herbert with Kellen Moore's offense.

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Speaker 1: Then three of the next four games for the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a ton of fun to see what

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Speaker 1: he's able to do in those situations. So a bit

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Speaker 1: longer of a show today than we have done in

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Speaker 1: the past few weeks. Hopefully you guys kind of enjoyed

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00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: our emphasis on the game and kind of zooming out

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00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: and seeing where you know, it's kind of taking stock

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00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: of where the Chargers are at in the conference as players,

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Speaker 1: as coaches. That was kind of our goal today. So

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Speaker 1: hopefully you enjoyed the show. Appreciate the Chargers for letting

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Speaker 1: us have this platform. As always, Appreciate Greg him for producing.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us today. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: on the at the same time next week to preview

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Monday night football game, so it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a ton of fun. Cannot wait for that matchup

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Speaker 1: and really excited for the next quarter of the Chargers

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Speaker 1: football So appreciate all you guys for tuning in. That's

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Speaker 1: going to do it for us. We'll see you next time.

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Speaker 1: As always, Both up,