1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: Hold open, Hold open, Jesus Christ. 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: I do like the first question I had for you, 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: because I know you've been like unplugged. I was like, 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: but like, do you know about the Luca thing? 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm not. I mean I'm unplugged 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: in the sense that I I can't. I have no 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: mental bandwidth aside from navigating the crisis, which sucks because 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't. I don't know 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: what sucks anymore. That's the thing. You don't know what 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: fucking sucks, what's terrible anymore? Right, But I mean, best believe, 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: like my phone was fucking exploding with texts. Second, yeah, 12 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: and a lot of stuff caveat. Hey Bro, I know 13 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: you're going through a lot right now. Hey ron Bro, 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: I know, shit, it's crazy right now. But just just 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: so you know, lucas a Laker now. I was like, 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: once I saw that the text coming from Jabari, and 17 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: I was. 18 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, Javari was first, you know, is gonna be 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: the first person who tells us anything. 20 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: It's our shams or no, no disrespect, he's our woch. 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, exactly, that don't disrespect Jabari like that. 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, that was just a fucking I'm still we'll 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: talk about it. What the fuck? This is? Maybe some 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: kind of lead conspiracy. 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: But it's so strange, it's so strange. But you know 26 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: you've made a good move when every immediately people are 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: making up conspiracy theories about the trade you made. First 28 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: disbelief in every front, like both Lakers and Mavericks, then 29 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: exactly and. 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: Then check check check check. 31 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: And then just immediate conspiracy theories, some of which I've 32 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: dove in on and seen. 33 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: The most likely one is the horse trading behind the 34 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: scenes with Adelson. Yeah, and the and the move to Vegas. Yeah, 35 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: that just seems because like why keep it so secret? Yeah, 36 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: if they said, hey, Lucas for. 37 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: Sale, they would be blooded. 38 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: Aside from a D, we don't have anything. 39 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: You don't have ship. We don't ship, man, we don't 40 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: got ship. 41 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 1: With the amount of picks places like okay, see have Yeah, 42 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: we'll do it for a D, Max Christi and a 43 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: fucking pick. 44 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: I don't know that. I don't know if anybody's gonna 45 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 2: know what any of this ship means, Like it sticks 46 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: like do it sings like it does it does sting 47 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 2: like doo dooo. 48 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: In fact, but I mean, James Carvo Do Doo special. 49 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 2: There's a James Covell do Do saying coming straight out 50 00:02:51,360 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: of Dallas Republican Doodoo. Hello the Enner, and welcome to 51 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: this week trend edition of Dirtily Like guyst Yeah. 52 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah yah yaes is me? 53 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? Is me? 54 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm me. 55 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: Babe. 56 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: We have to already acknowledge the fure. 57 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, sorry, that something that's changed since you've been gone. 58 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: We do have to acknowledge my future up top. My 59 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: name is Jack O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined 60 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: once again by mister Miles. 61 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: House is just some rubble. Hey now, hey, now you're 62 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: co host back in the shower this morning. Sorry, folks, 63 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna be real. 64 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: Go from here, Hi. 65 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: Sh I mean I just up top, well fucking to 66 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: thank you so much to everybody, Jack, to you, to Brian, 67 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: to Victor, to Bay to Justin, to Catherine to Anna, 68 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: to fucking everybody at the network, to fucking Zeitgang. I 69 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: cannot tell you. I mean, I'm sure you guys can 70 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: imagine how difficult it is to have your material life 71 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: literally go up in flames, but the outpouring of love 72 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: and support both like emotional and material has been so overwhelming. 73 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm really at a loss for words. I 74 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: was like her Massey and I we were looking at 75 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: all the messages from the listeners and we were so 76 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: overwhelmed to just really get an idea of just how 77 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: big this community is that we've cultivated from the show, 78 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: like just connecting y'all to each other, you guys connecting 79 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: to us. I'm I'm so humbled and I never thought 80 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: in a million years that I would need this kind 81 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: of help. I would never be in a situation where 82 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: I was really needing to lean on people, and the 83 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: manner in which people have come through made it very 84 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: easy to do. And I'm still just in disbelief out 85 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: of everything. But I just want to say, zey gang, 86 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: whenever you see me, please come up to me, because 87 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: I love all of y'all. I know y'all love us, 88 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: but I want to be able to show that to 89 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: you too as much as I can, because this has 90 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: been the craziest fucking three weeks. 91 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you're just You're the other side of it. 92 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: You're loved and it's all well deserved, which I know 93 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: is always one of the hardest things to see from 94 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: your own perspective. But you know, just like. 95 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,119 Speaker 1: The crazy shit is like you know, your your house 96 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: burns down and you're kind of in like the craziest 97 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: form of denial over it. To start off, like I 98 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: was telling you when you're like hey, man, like you know, 99 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: we're thinking about like what's the best way to help. 100 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: I was like, we're good, dude, We'll be on, We'll 101 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: be on. 102 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: I mean I was reaching out like day one though, 103 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: so like that's yeah, I think, And continually you checked, 104 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 2: you kept yeah, yeah, you're a good friend like many 105 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: of my friends do. 106 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: Hey, dude, just checking. Is there anything how you doing? 107 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 2: And we're gonna be We're gonna I don't know, man, 108 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: maybe a cast roll or something down the road a 109 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: couple of weeks right now. 110 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: Fine, I have no home, I have no childcare, I 111 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: have no hair, I have no hats. 112 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, your hair did so I do want it for 113 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: people who don't watch the videos of the show. Uh, 114 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 2: just you know, my Miles had a gorgeous head of. 115 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: Hair, unbelievable. 116 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: It was like now it's all gone. 117 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, hairline was so strong. Across Jaalen Rose was asking 118 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: me what my exactly give me the miles is that 119 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: it's real, Jalen like you, but yeah, it's where was 120 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: I all that to say? This is crazy? Oh? And 121 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: just like the hell I mean, we talked about this 122 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: on the show a lot, Like it's very difficult to 123 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: ask for help a lot of the times, I think, 124 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: just generally and especially in American culture, like we're so 125 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: fucking bootstrappy in a weird way. But it's funny how 126 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: like the people who are in the midst of it 127 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: can't really see how intense the tragedy is, whereas everyone 128 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: from the outside could acknowledge it. Yeah, even if they 129 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: don't understand it like very innately, like they do understand 130 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: what the stakes are here. And yeah, like I mean 131 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: I was just in pure state of like shell shock 132 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: for probably like ten days. Sure you trying to figure 133 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: it all out, But anyway, I don't know what happened 134 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: the last three weeks. I know Elon Musk is trying 135 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: to blame autism on Nazism or there's a correlation there, 136 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,679 Speaker 1: a laker. 137 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: That one is that So this is our first recording 138 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: since that one happened, And truly that feels like the 139 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: most surreal story because probably just because of like it 140 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: says something bad about me that that's the story that 141 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: really fucking the most. 142 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: Hest deportations, the lawful roundups, the violation of even American citizens' rights. 143 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, but how the fuck how the 144 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: Lakers did they do that? That for that? So anyway, 145 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: it's good to be back. 146 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: I am. 147 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: I was gonna say this in the overet underrated. Please 148 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: bear with me, folks. I'm I'm trying to regain a 149 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: sense of normalcy, like amidst this crisis. Anyway, everything's just 150 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: up in the air. I'm I'm I'm trying my best 151 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: to be back here. You know. Every day. Yeah, I may, 152 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: I may. I may have to pop out every now 153 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: and then to deal with existential crises that do pop up. 154 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: But anyway, it's going to be back. I'm done talking 155 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: about that for now. But guess what, it's gonna keep 156 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: coming up because that's what's going on with me and 157 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: again everybody. I cannot I just I can't keep thanking 158 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: the listeners enough for just checking in for all the 159 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: offers for like lodging places near and far, all from 160 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: Canada to the Midwest, to the East Coast to up 161 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: and down the West Coast. I'm just so fucking blown away, 162 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: and I'm so I'm just so happy that this is 163 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: like the energy of the people that listen to our show, 164 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: and this is the culture that we're cultivating through this 165 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: show because I see what's happening on some other fucking 166 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: podcasts nowadays and that I don't see empathy like that, 167 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: uh from from from those people, And like, so you 168 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: guys are fucking amazing. 169 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you eternally. 170 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about some fuck shit. 171 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: Sounds like a plant, all right. So this is the episode, 172 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: the Monday episode where we tell you what was trending 173 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: over the weekend. First, we let you get to know 174 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: us a little bit better by telling you stuff we 175 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: think is underrated, stuff we think is overrated. Why don't 176 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: I kick us off with an underrated? So, by underrated 177 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: is the idea of like having humility about how dumb 178 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: you are. This is like, this is the big idea 179 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: that got me into being into like philosophy when I 180 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: was a freshman in college and heard, you know, after 181 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: a lifetime of being around people with like really really 182 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: strong faith about big, very uncertain things, I you know, 183 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: intro to philosophy I hear this guy saying, brother, we 184 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 2: don't know shit, and that guy, little guy by the 185 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: name of Socrates, and yeah, I was like, that just 186 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: seemed like the truest thing, just the how little we 187 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: know being like the first thing that you're aware of, 188 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: like the mystery of it all, how little we know 189 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: about it all, making room for your own stupidity. And 190 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: I'm I'm seeing it slightly lacking in a couple places 191 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 2: these days. I'm seeing it lacking with like the accelerationists 192 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: who are like, yeah, let's just fucking tear it all down. 193 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 2: This is good that Trump is doing bad things and 194 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: killing people, because that will lead to a better future sooner. 195 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: It's just like, I don't know, I I guess, yeah, 196 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: you're just being really certain about some things you can't 197 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: be possibly certain of. And then obviously a huge problem 198 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: with authoritarianism itself, which like craves certitude over everything else, 199 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 2: just like big sweeping actions that knock down cities as 200 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: long as it like gives people something that they can 201 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: like be temporarily not uncertain about. But mainly I'm seeing 202 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: it with the Dallas Mavericks. Above all, the Dallas Mavericks. 203 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm seeing those fans. I am so sorry to you. 204 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to even say the Dallas Mavericks 205 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: their GM right, like the whoever made this decision for 206 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: I'm like having to jam this into my under it 207 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: like I I know, not everyone is an NBA fan 208 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 2: who listens to TDZ mostar statistically, Yeah, I went to it, 209 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: like my uh my kids and their friends all went 210 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: to dog Man, the movie dog Man last night, the Man. Yeah, 211 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: the dog The dog Man cinematic film just came out 212 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: and is doing By the way, bof o bo. 213 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: Wow, don't you have an album coming out under the 214 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: name dog Man X. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's dark 215 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: and hell hot, I think it is. 216 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the all DMX soundtrack to The dog Man. 217 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 2: It's really My kids came out with a lot of questions. 218 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, bitches want hit a little bit different when it's 219 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: an actual dog. 220 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: So he's allowed to. Yeah, but yeah, so afterwards I 221 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: missed dog Man. My wife took took them to dog Man, 222 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: and then I came after and met up for dinner, 223 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 2: and I was just like going down the line two 224 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: different parents being like, do you like the NBA? Nope, 225 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: moving on, do you like the NBA. Nope, thank you 226 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: for your time. Do you like the NBA? Until I 227 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: found somebody who could, and I was just like Luca, right, 228 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: what what is what? Uh? Because I don't know. It's 229 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: a startling move, I guess for people who aren't I saw, 230 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 2: I saw it. Put in these terms, for people who 231 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: aren't NBA fans, it would be like if Destiny's Child 232 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: traded Beyonce to TLC for Chili like that, that's wow, 233 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: link off to the And that's nothing against Chili, that's 234 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 2: nothing against Anthony Davis, you know. Yeah, but like, uh, 235 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: it's it was just a very you know, Loop just 236 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: took the put the Dallas Mavericks on his back and 237 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: took them to the finals last year, and now they 238 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: just gave up on him halfway through this season. And 239 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 2: the question is why. That was the question that immediately happened. Yeah, 240 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: the guy at Dallas claims that he like made the 241 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: trade without asking any other NBA franchisees if they like 242 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: wanted to trade for him, Like he basically this is 243 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: a trade where he could have gotten so so so, 244 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: so so so much from like, yeah, he's he's the 245 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: best player, like everybody would want him he's like a 246 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: player that is called untradeable and they traded him for 247 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: like pennies on the dollar, and now the Lakers have 248 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: him and a lot of it. Just you know, you've 249 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: made a good decision when first of all, the first 250 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: response to the news breaking is everyone immediately assures each 251 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: other that the person reporting it has been hacked, which 252 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: was the first like just everybody being like, no, that's 253 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,479 Speaker 2: not that's not a real story. And then everybody immediately 254 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: just starts trying to come up with conspiracy theories about 255 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: like why you would have possibly done this. But anyways, 256 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: back to my theme of like being so certain, you know, 257 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: like he was so certain that this made sense that 258 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: like he had some secret information that I guess Luca 259 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: is like hard to deal with behind the scenes and 260 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: is like not good at staying in shape. 261 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: But like we saw that clip where Michael Finley snatched 262 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: that beer out of his hand, took. 263 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: A beer out of his hands while they were celebrating 264 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: the ship. 265 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: So it but just that's like some shit where like 266 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: in a you see that shit in a relationship where 267 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: someone's like, Babe, I'm not going to drink tonight. I'm 268 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: not gonna drink tonight. We're gonna go out. I'm not 269 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: gonna drink tonight, right, And then she was like, what 270 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: the fuck are you doing this beer in your hand 271 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: And they're like, oh yeah. 272 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: Oh what I just thought. I just thought because we 273 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: were celebrating take you nowhere, that literally that was the 274 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: energy as they were celebrating going to the final. So 275 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: there was like trouble there. But like he he made 276 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: such a like an indefensible decision, like indefensible in the 277 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: sense that they're this produce, like what they got in exchange, 278 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: just like doesn't doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense 279 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: that he would keep it a secret. He was like, 280 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: thank you to the Lakers for like keeping this on 281 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: on the low with us for some reason, Like what 282 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: why would they Why would you think that was the 283 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: right thing to do? Keep it a secret. It's just 284 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: so confusing. I wish he had read a little Socrates 285 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: for the for the sake of the Dallas Mavericks and 286 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: just been like, maybe it is I who is wrong 287 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: and not literally everybody else in the world. You know, 288 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: maybe maybe focus group this one with just a handful 289 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: of NBA fans before concluding, Nah, it's this it's the 290 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: kids who are wrong. Mm hmm, it's everybody else. Yeah, 291 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: we just I think it's valuable to have people with 292 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: a healthy skepticism about their own ability to know. 293 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. Sure, Just generally, I feel like 294 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: in a social dynamic setting, the people who are a 295 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: little bit more thinking, who are more contemplative and aren't 296 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: jumping to conclusions immediately typically don't get like the momentum 297 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: of people getting behind them right way, or someone goes, 298 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: You're like, no, man, when need doing this this? Tear 299 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: that down, destroy that, take that shit, turn it into 300 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: the color blue that that's no longer as Yeah, that 301 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: should be a mouse running everything. That kid back there, 302 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: that's my smartest employee from another company I have now 303 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: running through all the fucking payment systems of the goddamn government. 304 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: That kind of shit allows like it's quirk that deficiency 305 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: you have. Oddly enough gets the people who are thinking 306 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more sometimes like, well, it's better I'll 307 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: just outsource my decision making this person. It seems that 308 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: they yeah, figured out, I mean they're saying it so confidently, 309 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: and yeah, and look at us now, could just. 310 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: Be growth incompetence. H This is the guy who apparently 311 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 2: so the GM of the Dallas Maavericks, is also a 312 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 2: former Nike executive who has this legendary story where everybody's 313 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: always like, why is Steph Curry signed with under Armour? Like, 314 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 2: that's not even a shoe company. That's like a company 315 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: that makes golf shirts for middle aged dads in the Philadelphia. 316 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: Area, Camo hoodies with the pink breast cancer logo. That's 317 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: the weirdest combo of whenever you see the under Armoured 318 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: Camo breast cancer awareness. Ay, I'm like, that's America though. 319 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: And now they're a shoe company because Steph Curry signed 320 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: with them. And if you want to know why Steph 321 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: Curry signed with them, one of the stories is that 322 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 2: he had a legendarily catastrophic meeting with Nike when Nike 323 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: was like, we want to make you your own shoe 324 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: and uh, a former Nike executive who is now the 325 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 2: Gem of Dallas. I think God his name is he? 326 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: The one him Stephen Seth called him Seth Seth, which 327 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: is his brother's brother. 328 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: Yes, who's not even close to being this the talent 329 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: that Steph is, which is so crazy to me that 330 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: you go in there, just like, just like you had 331 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: a medium. Michael Jackson like, hey, Tito, Tito, like the 332 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: fuck you know who the fuck I what are you 333 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: talking about? 334 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: Okay, they called him Seth showed him a presentation that 335 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: was clearly designed for Kevin Durant's, like one of the 336 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: other sweat under Armour, because that's a Maryland company and 337 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: they were they were trying to work there. 338 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: Maryland cred with Kevin Durant at the time. 339 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 2: Anyway, It's yeah, hey, you can might just might just 340 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: be gross incompetence, but it also just feels like, I 341 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: don't know, let's be less certain of our of our 342 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: bad decisions running up the chain. Folks just might move wrong. 343 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: What's odd enough? This has been one of the few 344 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: times I've been ashamed as a Laker fan for getting 345 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: a player. 346 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, oh man, yeah, usually this is what 347 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 2: Laker fans expect. Laker fans are just like. 348 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: If you listen to Boosy's last season, I was like, 349 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: come home, Luca, come home Luca, right, but you were 350 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: saying it as a bit I mean, I say that 351 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: as like with my Lakers arrogance. But then I'm like, 352 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,239 Speaker 1: now I sound like homegirling matrix because I'm like, no, 353 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: like this, not like this. I didn't I don't want 354 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: that for y'all. No, no, no, but anyway, yeah, here 355 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: we are. 356 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: Anyways, you'll be enjoying it for the next decade. Yeah yeah, yeah, 357 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 2: I don't know, like something like it. But like even 358 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: the question, like people are like, all right, if he 359 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: has a terminal illness, this makes sense. But then like 360 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 2: you'd have to go through a physical Yeah, you go 361 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: through physical, the trade will be ruined, like the trade 362 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: wouldn't actually happen, so like that, even that doesn't make sense. 363 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: Look, this is I'm I'm guessing there's gonna be some 364 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: textures that emerge from this that will be very very 365 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: eye opening. Or we'll also see that casuals everything around us. 366 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. One of the theories is the Andlesen family 367 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 2: who took over ownership last year. Basically they want to 368 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: turn the Dallas Sports Arena into a casino and they're 369 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: having trouble getting it through the Texas legislature. And also 370 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: Dallas is too good to like threaten to move them, 371 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: and that's like one of the ways that people leverage 372 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 2: professional sports franchises, being like well, we'll move you to 373 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,239 Speaker 2: a different place. And so they're threatening to move them 374 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 2: to Las Vegas. So the theory is that they're just 375 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,239 Speaker 2: doing the plot from Major League and yeah, you know 376 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: Tank god job. 377 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: He got blown out by I think forty three points 378 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: against the Calves. Yeah too. 379 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was crazy. They're down like sixty at one point. 380 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that halftime score. I was like, yeah, oh 381 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: y'all they already have ninety points. 382 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 383 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: Well, also something he thinks under it under raided pop corners. 384 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: Ever had corners? 385 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: And they're like they're like rice cakes flattened into like 386 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: Dorito's style triangles. 387 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I have had the kettle. 388 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: Corn flavor specifically. So I got a bag of these 389 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: as a part of Sorry your House Burned Down gift 390 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: bag shout out to the That was a great gift 391 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: bag though, because I don't know if it's the trauma 392 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: or the flavor, but I love these things now. They 393 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: are fucking so good. I bought the biggest fucking I 394 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: went to the store about the biggest fucking bag, and 395 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: I got through half of that so quickly. I almost 396 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: felt like someone who like turns into a werewolf from 397 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: like I need to chain myself. 398 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: To a radiator, so I get away from these things. 399 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, like like Seth Green and Buffy the Vampires 400 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: Layer like this. 401 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I can't. 402 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: Like I can't like when I when I, when I 403 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: do the thing where I'm time traveling through snacking, I'm like, oh, 404 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: something's up, something, let's not let's. 405 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: Let's in here for forty five minutes. 406 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then to bring it back to the fire again, 407 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: just underrated. How intense the trauma of your house burning 408 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 1: down is. I must say, the whole moment is surreal. Okay, 409 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm not the same. I don't know when I will 410 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: be the same. My assumptive reality, you know, the presumed 411 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: future for my family has completely is in literal ashes. 412 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: That's very jarring and in a way, I don't know 413 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: it like it's hardened me in a hopefully the right 414 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: ways to sort of face the challenges that life is 415 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: going to be, you know, throwing our way just for 416 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: the coming decades. But like the part about like you know, 417 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: moving to a place like obviously my kid grew up here, 418 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: maybe kids who knows whatever that to for that that 419 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: vision to be completely wiped out of your mind completely, 420 00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: because look, alta Dina is gone, like it's gone. The 421 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: blocks around me are fully flattened, Like you can look 422 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: your line of sight uninterrupted because of the lack of 423 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: structures there is. It's fucking it's freaky. So that's just 424 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: been a huge mind fuck. I don't recommend it if 425 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: you if you can avoid it, please do. 426 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: It ranked pretty low on trip Advisor for things to 427 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 2: do in Los Angeles. 428 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, b present for l once in a one 429 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: hundred years windstorm that then exacerbates wildfire. But anyway, I 430 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: will say, but the other part of that too, is 431 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: just amidst all of that. Like again, like I said 432 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: up top, what we've been shown is so wild, like 433 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: it's it's just I'm feeling like both extremes at the 434 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: same time, like of extreme loss and extreme gratitude for 435 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: what I have that I'm just trying to I'm trying 436 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: to get to the middle ish. But yeah, it's just 437 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: a because like you always see shit like this and 438 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: like the movies, you know, this is us that TV show, Yeah, 439 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: you know that famously burnt their house burned down a 440 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: crockpot fire. But there's like a I don't know, they 441 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: don't even know how to articulate it. It's just crazy. 442 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's crazy, But I'm just glad. I'm like trying, 443 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: like I'm We've got like a place to stay, thank god, 444 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: and we're not getting price gouged, thank god. Because the 445 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: fucking LA is filled with pieces of shit and also 446 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: the greatest people at this I feel like any place 447 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: in America, it's simultaneous as like some of the biggest 448 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: pieces of shit and also mostly the nicest human beings 449 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: I've ever been around. So those things are like settled, 450 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: and now that like we have a sense of like 451 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: stability to operate from like shelter and like childcare, like 452 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, the guy's child is now in a place 453 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: where he can go and like sort of build new relationships. 454 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: Now that those things are there, like I feel like 455 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: I can really put my feet down and start doing 456 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: this shit again. But anyway, and so I am so 457 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: feels good. Feels good. It feels good, and I look, 458 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm gonna make weird jokes about my house 459 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: burning down because that's how I process things. I don't know, 460 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: if you listen to the show. I've never been able 461 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: to hold my tongue, and I make bad timing jokes 462 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: as it relates to trauma. That's just how I process things, 463 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: and hopefully it makes a little bit easier for y'all 464 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: because it makes it easier for me. It will allow it. 465 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 2: All right, let's uh, let's take a quick break. We'll 466 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: come back. We'll do our overrateds and get to a 467 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 2: couple of new stories. 468 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. 469 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,239 Speaker 2: And we're back, all right. Uh so we did our 470 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 2: underrated right. Underrated was humility trauma of having your house 471 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: burned down? Yeah, powner, sorry, sorry, it doesn't mean to look. 472 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: At pop corners houseburd down trauma. That's right, all right? 473 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,719 Speaker 2: Overrated. Uh. I gotta give it to my skills as 474 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: a man and as a father. 475 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: Op rated. 476 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: I had the Pinewood Derby for my youngest kids cub 477 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: Scout Troupe on Friday night, and he just like really 478 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: last year, I forget what happened, but he didn't. You know, 479 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 2: he just takes this event for whatever reason very seriously. 480 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 2: He's an artist. He like has a vision, you know. 481 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: Uh it was it was a dragon flame themed car 482 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: this year, like you know it was. I just was 483 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 2: working with him. He was art directing me, not like 484 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: in the shape, but it was it. We just like 485 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: got decals and shit like it's not don't be because 486 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: that's the other dynamics. I'm showing up. Yeah, I'm showing 487 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 2: up like real proud of the work we put in together. 488 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: And there are people there with like dragon shaped cars, 489 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: like they're like truly like the finest works of craftsmanship 490 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: that I've seen, Like just these fun like some of 491 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: the parents are like just art, you know, the artists 492 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: who work in physical like work with physical things and 493 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: like they create great ship Like what what was a tiger? 494 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: What was a shark shaped thing? Just really rubbed it 495 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: in my face as a Jaws head. 496 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: You went to the toy store and got like the 497 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: fifty decals that you like, I got the cow like, ah, 498 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: we got elephants again, Hold on the next one, probably sharks. 499 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: Want to give me fifty more fifty more cents? Ah, 500 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: why is it so random? Get the one you want? 501 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: The stickers and the little thing outside of. 502 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: The little cardboards. 503 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exact Kroger Parking. Anyways, you know, we worked 504 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: on it together. I watched hour of YouTube videos on 505 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: like how to you know, not not I won't say hours, 506 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: but polished some axles, gave them a little bend, which 507 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: is something that you're supposed to do. Uh, and I 508 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: fucked it up his his car. The back wheels fell off. 509 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: How exactly that's a great question. Miles overlooked my skills 510 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: with the glue gun and did not glue gun the 511 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: axle on hard enough. And so my strategy going in was, Hey, 512 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: we might not win this thing, but the important thing 513 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: is that you now have this cool car that we 514 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: built together, and you'll have that for the rest of 515 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: your life. And immediately second heat, the car's fucking wheels 516 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: fall off. Hey's sobbing. I'm sobbing. It was. Yeah, it 517 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: was not exactly. 518 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm the one who took l so publicly. O poor kid, 519 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: My god, next year. 520 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 2: Next week, exactly this. My older son cares much less 521 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: about it. His car like came in third in his 522 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: race the next day. So it's just I think I 523 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: wanted it too bad, you know what I mean. 524 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what happens. Also, you know, it's just don't 525 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, let that be your child's experience, you know, 526 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: that's right. Maybe you inserted yourself a little too much. 527 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: Jack made it about yourself. 528 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. 529 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: I was like, you're crying, crying, he's trying to. 530 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: Cheer me up. No, it's no failure. 531 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: Mister Jack, Like, please don't swear in front of the kids. 532 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: You too, Miles, not that far energetically from what was happening. 533 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: It was definitely like me taking it as hard as him, 534 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: Like you're smoking his cigarette and ship it was like, man, 535 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: Jack really seems like he's on edge. 536 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: Where do you get those cigarettes? 537 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? I am always quick to apologize whenever I fun. 538 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, look, man, sorry about that. That was That 539 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: was no good. So hopefully that works. I don't know, 540 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: maybe it just makes them be like Dad's unstable. But 541 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: every time I suck up, I'm always like, all right, 542 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 2: so daddy got got in a weird place there about 543 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: the Pinewood Derby, and I apologize. But anyways, we'll get 544 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: him next year. 545 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, Hell yeah you will. 546 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: What's uh? What's something? Miles? He thinks over at him, 547 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 2: stuff just having stuff? Stuff? You know what? Do not 548 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: study for? 549 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: This? 550 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: Part? Sounds like an answer I would give. 551 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: I believe stuff is overrated. To burden oneself with physical 552 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: items can lead to a disconnection from what is actually 553 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: the most valuable in couin greg human existence if I may, Yeah, 554 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: I mean it's just like the weirdest thing about this 555 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: is like the grieving period for my physical possessions was 556 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: maybe the shortest m Like, yeah, I got over that 557 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: a lot quicker than I did the everything else. Like 558 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: the displacement is like the hardest fucking thing, and like 559 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: the loss of your concept of community and home. 560 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you're in a community one day and then 561 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: the next day you're just in. 562 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't exist. It's not like and it's different when 563 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, we had to move out of that 564 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: neighborhood because of X, Y or Z. It's like, you know, 565 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: the neighborhood is no more, and the people there are 566 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: displaced also and also shaking their fists at the sky 567 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's going on. But I also 568 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: felt like oddly liberated from not having a bunch of shit. Yeah, 569 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: even though many of those things had very deep meaning 570 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: and value to me, Like I lost all of the 571 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: music that I made, I lost all of my instruments, 572 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: all of my beloved Arsenal and Lakers jerseys, my fucking 573 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: photos and weird videos I made throughout my twenties that 574 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: were on hard drives. Like that's all gone, and like 575 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: when those things are taken away from you, you emerge 576 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: with a much deeper sense of like the overall concept 577 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: of what you just call value. So I have no 578 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: hats anymore, so I won't be wearing as many hats. 579 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 2: You had an incredible clicktion. 580 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: Oh, really incredible, And when you start adding up the 581 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: money that you spent on it, then you start going, 582 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: what the fuck? 583 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: Uh, mister is here on this insurance form the thirteen. 584 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: Thousand dollars in hats? Yeah, dude, and not upside down 585 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: on a lot of them. Man. I still I was 586 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: taking out loans to get some of these hats, my 587 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: hat loans. Oh boy, I'm fucked, babe. We are fucked 588 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: for these hat loans. But it's just also interesting because 589 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm taking this also as like a punctuation in my life. Obviously, 590 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: how could I not. Yeah, but I'm definitely in the 591 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: process of gaining an intense wisdom that I'm still processing. 592 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: And as I've told people, I basically did the most 593 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: wild version of Marie Condo. Uh does it spark joy 594 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: that you've ever done in your fucking life? 595 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 2: Jesus? 596 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know, like it was kind of 597 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: for all this stuff, like all the family heirlooms, like 598 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: handwritten things that like my grandparents had, and like those 599 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: kinds of stuff you start to realize too, like you 600 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: have to kind of think to yourself also, like if 601 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: my grandparents were alive and I told them I lost 602 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: that note that you wrote, you know that that burned 603 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: up and I felt so terrible about it. I had 604 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: to really kind of like try and tap into that 605 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: wisdom of what they would say to me, which is 606 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: like you're alive, Like you're surviving. Like the whole point 607 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: of what I toiled through and what I had to suffer, 608 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: what my grandparents had to suffer, what their grandparents had 609 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: to suffer, was to get to a place where the 610 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: descendants live and can thrive. Those objects that is not 611 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: that isn't that doesn't define my relationship to my family. 612 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: If those things are much deeper, it's the memories that 613 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: I have, because those are the most intense things. Those 614 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: are just merely objects that can help resurrect these memories. 615 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: But those memories are contained with in me, and I 616 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: can imbue that same sense of value into other things 617 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: that aren't necessarily like the literal objects that they handled. 618 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean like there's just there's just a 619 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: lot like uh, but yeah, the stuff part of it, 620 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: it is what it is. 621 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: It is, Yeah, passing those stories and memories and values 622 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 2: on to you know, other generations, and you know, I 623 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 2: feel like you know, and those values in particular come 624 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: across and who you are you know. 625 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean again, like it forces this very 626 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: intense process of like introspection that I'm also grateful for 627 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: because before that they're just merely thought experiments. A lot 628 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: of the times you do think of things like what 629 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 1: if I to leave, Like what would I take or whatever? Yeah, 630 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: and what what how what would I do if it 631 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: didn't a lot of people? Or like I don't know 632 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: what I would do if I was in your position. 633 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: I mean, human beings are very resilient, and I think 634 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we weren't wired to 635 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: fall apart when our trink gets vanish, right. It's our 636 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: sense of commune unity, our sense of belonging like love. 637 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: Those are the things that are that kind of make 638 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: our human existence really meaningful. And what I've gained in 639 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: those aspects are tremendous and completely offset what I even 640 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: felt the value was of, like the physical objects that 641 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: I lost. So I'm in the process of being very 642 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: trying to be as grateful as possible for that, although 643 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: not not the ideal way I would arrive at that, 644 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: but but I do. 645 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: I would have written it. 646 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: But you know, like a couple of notes for you God. 647 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 2: All right, let's uh, let's take one more break, we'll 648 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 2: come back. We'll we'll dig into some stories. We'll be back. 649 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: And we're back. 650 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 2: And what the Wall Street Journal has deemed the dumbest 651 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 2: trade war in history is upon us. But before we 652 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 2: get into all the trade ship the tariffs, you know, 653 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 2: because we're we're big Episode one Phantom Menace fans, so 654 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 2: we we love talking tariffs and trade routes and trade wars, 655 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 2: trade federations, trade federations can't get orientalism. Also thing for me. 656 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 2: But uh, before we get into I guess like, so, 657 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 2: you haven't had a ton of time, but you've been 658 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: like viewing the events of the past three four weeks 659 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 2: from a distance. I'm just curious. 660 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: It's like doctor Manhattan to exist. I've gone to Mars 661 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 1: to sort of take a take a quick five minute 662 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: breather but I've been viewing things from Mars with a 663 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: hydrogen atom uh emblazoned on my forehead. 664 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it looks good by the way you're pulling 665 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 2: it off. 666 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: Thanks, it's marker. Still, I didn't have the courage to 667 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: actually burn it into my skin, but I'm thinking about it. 668 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: It could look cool. I just don't know if it'll 669 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: turn to a kiloid or not. But anyway, yeah, I have. 670 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: I've heard tell of the of the tariffs, and then 671 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: I heard of the retaliatory tariffs, and then I saw 672 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: headlines from Republicans are getting a little weak in the 673 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: knees now because they're like, oh, like this hurts like 674 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: rich people too, and like it turns out like the 675 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: gas could also directly hit my community the hardest in 676 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: the Midwest. Well, it's just funny. Yeah, So I've I mean, yeah, 677 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: I guess in that sense, I'm probably still more informed 678 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: than the average Trump voter. 679 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 2: Any anything, because you miss I mean, you missed the inauguration, 680 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: and you missed Elon Musk Hling Hitler, and just. 681 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: I didn't miss actually any of that. I didn't miss 682 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: the back to back. Y m c A performs his 683 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: from the Village people, Oh I saw it's weird, even 684 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: though I'm like, I don't even know what the fuck's 685 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: going on. I I have this terrible habit of having 686 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: to want to know what's going on, even though I'm 687 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: also trying to figure out the value of an old 688 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: jacket that is, like spoke from the fifties that the 689 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: grandfer known. 690 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 2: Ye. 691 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: So, yeah, I guess it's like it's just more of 692 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: the oh, you know what it really is. It's the 693 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: I just wasn't on social media. I think that's the 694 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: biggest thing, and it's good and bad. I mean, like 695 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: I've I definitely like since using Blue Sky, I read 696 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 1: that I get to read the stuff that i'd want, 697 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: like I hear from the people i'd want to hear from. 698 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 699 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: So I guess it's like the commentary around the headlines 700 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: that I've not really seen much of. But also like 701 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: every moment, like for example, when the fucking Hyle Hitler 702 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: shit happened at the inauguration or on an inauguration day, 703 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: that was definitely a moment when I go, Okay, well, 704 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: I don't have time for this shit. I got to 705 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: figure out where the fuck my kids can go to school, right, Yeah, 706 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,720 Speaker 1: I definitely would like I would see I would brush 707 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: up against reality and go not today, Satan. No, I 708 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,479 Speaker 1: wasn't joking. When I saw that clip from the video 709 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: episode if y'all talking about the Roseanne bar wrap thing, 710 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, this might be it for me. 711 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: I don't think might have to be. I'm fully off 712 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 1: this now because I have to do other things. So yeah, 713 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: it's like it's a weird relationship with reality. I haven't 714 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: quite gone full ignorance is bliss, because ignorance is not bliss. 715 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: So as much as I've I'm not. My heads weren't 716 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: in the books like they normally are when I'm doing 717 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: the show all the time. It was enough to still 718 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 1: augment the sense of terror that I had from dealing 719 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: with the fall out of a terrible wildfire. 720 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 2: Oh good, Yeah, well, I just wanted to make sure 721 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 2: that you had that drip, that ivy drip of terror. 722 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: Yeah you got to go. 723 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So we knew the Trump two point 724 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 2: I was going to be bad. Purposefully torpedoing the economy 725 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 2: while planes are literally falling from the sky is probably 726 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 2: worse than people imagined. Again, the accelerationists might be like, 727 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 2: oh I didn't see this particular version of things going 728 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 2: this direction, or maybe they didn't think it's worth it. 729 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 2: But he followed through on threats to hit the countries 730 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 2: to top trading partners Canada, Mexico with a twenty five 731 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 2: percent tariff and a ten percent tariff on China. And 732 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 2: you know he's in trouble when the Wall Street journal 733 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 2: is calling it quote the dumbest trade war in history 734 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,720 Speaker 2: in headlines. Yeah. Just feel like we've talked before about 735 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 2: how tariffs are a blunt instrument, Like you get a 736 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 2: response from tariffs, like one specific response from tariff, but 737 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 2: it's like trying to fix a complicated machine with only 738 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 2: a hammer, right. You know I do tool metaphors now 739 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 2: that i'd time on a Pinewood Derby car. 740 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: What about glue gun metaphors? 741 00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean this guy doesn't even have a guy 742 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 2: damn glue gun. 743 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, he thought he could go and heat up the 744 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: glue stick enough that it would stick. Wait, does that 745 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: not how those work? Okay? I got another YouTube video 746 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: for it to wash. Yeah, Like it's one of those 747 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: things where it makes sense on paper if you strip 748 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 1: out any context or nuance, and like much like your 749 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: hammer metaphor, it's like, yeah, I don't know, like banging 750 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 1: the shit out of it like with a TV like 751 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 1: back in the days, like it might work. Yeah, you 752 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: might also fuck it up worse. But I think they're 753 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: they're living off the well it might work. And I 754 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: think that's what kind of brings me to like what 755 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,240 Speaker 1: the fuck is he actually doing here? Because I don't 756 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: believe that this heat his America for that's all bullshit. 757 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 1: He's not interested in making anyone's fucking life better except 758 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: for his own. So this is all like rhetoric for what. 759 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: And you know, like like the one thing from just 760 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: his own words is that he's deaf into like being 761 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: like the second coming of like William McKinley, who was 762 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 1: like the last president eident. And we ain't doing income tax. 763 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: We ain't doing an income tax, right because like in 764 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: the nineteen hundreds, federal income tax, like federal revenues were 765 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: coming from tariffs and that's and like and then then 766 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: and like you know that that was sort of like 767 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: the main way to raise revenues for the federal government. 768 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: So then this feels like a long term way to 769 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: make the conservative wet dream of no more income tax 770 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,919 Speaker 1: or reality. But then if that's the case, what's going 771 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: on with these tariffs? Because we saw what happened, Like 772 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: the reason the Wall Street journals like this is the 773 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 1: dumbest trade wherever, it's because look, the stock market took 774 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: a shit last week, okay, and this is clearly that 775 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,720 Speaker 1: all of this is having to do with the tariffs now, 776 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,879 Speaker 1: is that it looks right now that the wealthiest are 777 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: the hardest to be hit because they love the stalks. 778 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,760 Speaker 1: Normal people they're not as tied up in the stock market. 779 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: So really that pain is going to come from inflation 780 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: and diluted purchasing power that comes as a result of 781 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 1: these tariffs and higher prices. But because he doesn't give 782 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: a fuck about anyone except himself, that Timothy Noah the 783 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: New Republic raised an interesting point that this has the 784 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 1: trappings of a very trump asque shakedown of other billionaires. 785 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: So Trump has money problems, right, and he's currently pushing 786 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: a meme coin with many people holding lots and lots 787 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,720 Speaker 1: of millions of dollars in this coin, which is basically 788 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 1: like a fun way to get Trump little little payments, 789 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: little thank you gifts, right, And I think just it's 790 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 1: looking like this whole thing with the tariffs and like 791 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: certain industries being protected over not is also just like 792 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 1: a pseudo mafioso tactic of a sort of like nice economy, 793 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: you got here, be terrible if tariffs fucked all that 794 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: up for you, and then from there get people to 795 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 1: fall in line. But I don't know, like that's that's 796 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: one dimension of it, because like when people are like, 797 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: this is not how he's gonna change things things better, 798 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: Like that's not stop acting like he's doing it for that. 799 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not his motivation at all, not to make 800 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 2: things better for people. And it does feel like an 801 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 2: opposition that makes that point repeatedly would be helpful. I 802 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 2: don't know how that's going, but it does feel like, 803 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, the things are getting really bad. He's 804 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 2: doing things that should be wildly unpopular with people, attacking medicare, medicaid, 805 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 2: you know, fucking do just making everything more expensive, and 806 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 2: even if it fucking only hits Wall Street, you know, 807 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 2: corporations love to, you know, send that pressure downstream to 808 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 2: people and like fire people take away for a one k, 809 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 2: you know, all all the all the shit that people 810 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 2: are going to feel that there's no corporation. That's like, well, 811 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 2: we're just gonna have to tighten our belts up here 812 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 2: and not down below, like that tightening belts means they're 813 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 2: going to fuck people. Yeah, it's just and like right now, 814 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 2: like there's just more INFI James literally James Carvell, the carle. 815 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 1: Why is he still talking. He's like the fact that 816 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: they the fact that you put a Kamala Harris the 817 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: road for the president. There's like playing in a sun 818 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: string quarterback in the super Bowl. 819 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 2: He said that. 820 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: That's what he just said. This is a fucking quote 821 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: from him just now from this morning. I just read. 822 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 2: Confident. 823 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: And then he goes back, he's like, well, yeah, President 824 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 1: Biden is to blame. Okay, first of all, assholes, all 825 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 1: of you fucks are to blame. So miss me with 826 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 1: all this ship and get to the fucking point where 827 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: you actually stand up to this ship. Because man, to 828 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: all these Democrats, they're still worried about their fucking careers 829 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: in Congress rather than doing the right thing. That's what's 830 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 1: the most terrifying thing to me. These people aren't willing. 831 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 1: Most of these people are not willing to fight. There 832 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: are something that clearly are, but most of the people 833 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: in leadership, they're still thinking long term. They're like, how 834 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: do I fucking how do I duck this ship? How 835 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 1: do I bob and weave? When it's like, bro, you 836 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 1: need to fucking stand up and do something. But again, please, people, 837 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: please keep this in mind as we try to rest 838 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:09,399 Speaker 1: control of whatever progressive minded people want to have as 839 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: representatives in Congress, because these people are not going to 840 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 1: fucking do it, and they're continuing to fucking disappoint. I know, 841 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 1: Hakim Jeffreys just introduced some kind of ten point battle 842 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: plan to fight Trump. I'm sure we'll talk about that later. 843 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just we're just we're looking at a 844 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 1: very very unwilling opposition party in the Democrats. 845 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like tariffs might be the one place 846 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 2: that they get their shit together on because the Democrats 847 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 2: are the party of corporations, and corporations stand to lose 848 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 2: so much here that, you know, whereas well. 849 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 1: They are the party of the status quo. It's certainly 850 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: certainly a threat to the status quo. Not in the 851 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,399 Speaker 1: positive direction, but it's a disruption. And yeah, maybe they 852 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 1: maybe they'll get their marching orders from the donor soon enough. 853 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 2: But There's this one like exchange where people asked if 854 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 2: he was going to impost Harris on the europeinionion. He 855 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 2: was like, am I going to impost Harris on their 856 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,240 Speaker 2: European Union? Do you want the truthful answer? Or should 857 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 2: I give you a political answer? Absolutely? Absolutely? The European 858 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 2: Union has treated us so terribly. It just he seems 859 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 2: like he's so like that is also a big part 860 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 2: of the story is him getting to be up there 861 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 2: and act like a king tough, you know, like act 862 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 2: like should I should not? I don't know, so you will, 863 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 2: I won't. I let me put it this way. 864 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. Famously, I walked out of Anger Management because the 865 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 1: movie was so bad. I couldn't even stand it. Oh 866 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: so you're a tough guy. Huh. 867 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. It feels like his reason for doing it is 868 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 2: getting to give that answer and feel powerful. In a 869 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 2: lot of these cases. 870 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: Because it's so disjointed from anything, it's like, oh God, 871 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: the senile old man from the campaign is the president 872 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: and now doing senile fuck shit. Yeah, and just being 873 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: like yeah, everybody, everybody can come get it. And then 874 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: when shit actually happens and he's like, oh, wait, they're 875 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 1: gonna there's more countries than the US that would band 876 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 1: together to try and fucking fight US. Oh and now 877 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: that we're seeing like all of these in kind retaliatory tariffs, 878 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 1: like he's been starting to fucking wobble. 879 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. The one thing we've been noticing is 880 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 2: like the way the media covers the other country retaliates 881 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 2: or you know, pushes back or his fucked up policy 882 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 2: has like terrible effects and people, you know, like with Columbia, 883 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 2: it was like the price of coffee, like shot through 884 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 2: the roof, and like, right, he finds a way to 885 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 2: be like they actually gave in, they were scared of me. 886 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 2: They big win for Trump, and like the media just 887 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 2: kind of goes along with it. And that feels like 888 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 2: what's happening with Mexico pausing, Like they said that they 889 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 2: would put troops on the border to aid with the 890 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 2: and I don't know if they if Shinbaum did this 891 00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 2: in scare quotes or not, but it was like to 892 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 2: aid with the sentinel trade. 893 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 1: No, I don't think she's scare quote. She did the 894 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 1: jerk off motion. 895 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, well put ten thousand at the border. 896 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, there you go, And uh, anything else Anyways, 897 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 2: he was like, we want we can lower the Mexican tariffs, 898 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 2: but it's also probably because the stock marker was taking 899 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 2: a ship, and that is truly who he answers to. 900 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 2: Like all American politicians like the thing that people who 901 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 2: elected an authoritarian like a lot of this energy for 902 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 2: people being like, we need an authoritarian, somebody who's outside 903 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 2: of the mainstream, who's not a career politician. What they 904 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,720 Speaker 2: mean is like, we need somebody who's going to stand 905 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 2: up to corporations and like that is not him. Yeah, 906 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 2: that's that's not going to be him. He can do 907 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 2: shit that like is wild and scares them, but he's 908 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 2: also I think going to back down quite a bit. 909 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 1: I mean this this happened a lot in his first administration. 910 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: There was a big swings and he's like yeah, well 911 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,240 Speaker 1: and then enough time passes and then he just doesn't 912 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: acknowledge the l and he's like yeah, yeah, yeah, I 913 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 1: mean it didn't matter if everyone's against me, and they've always. 914 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,839 Speaker 2: Been flooding the zone with shit, yah, flooding it. 915 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 1: And I think that's another thing too, is this is 916 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: all It was very disorienting to check in the news, 917 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 1: like every two day three days. For me, that's about 918 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,839 Speaker 1: the pace I was doing while I was dealing with 919 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: everything else. My god, the amount of times I'm like, 920 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 1: holy shit, what okay, holy shit? What Elon Musk is 921 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 1: kicking people out of their offices and like physically removing 922 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: people so his goons can get access to computer systems. 923 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 924 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: What? All that stuff too is meant to overwhelm us, 925 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,840 Speaker 1: and suddenly, in the midst of cash like, just please 926 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: settle onto something so I can deal with that. And 927 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 1: I think that's one part that we should keep in mind, 928 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 1: is that this is very much meant to try and 929 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 1: get us off of our our sense of like footing 930 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,360 Speaker 1: here and knowing that fair is there is something normal 931 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: that we actually need to be holding onto. But at 932 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 1: the same time too it all of that happening too 933 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: just kind of remind me of the whole process of 934 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: like losing your house and a fire, where you're kind 935 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 1: of it's such an extreme new normal that you're suddenly 936 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 1: in the first stage of it is you're in denial 937 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 1: about it. You're like, what the fuck's going on? There's 938 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 1: no way this is happening. There is no fucking way, 939 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 1: And then very quickly you have to get to the 940 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 1: acceptance phase, because it's not as empowering to say this 941 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 1: can't be happening, This can't be happening, this can't what's 942 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 1: at least that's how I felt in dealing with my 943 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,800 Speaker 1: own crisis, was not going like, this can't be happening. 944 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,319 Speaker 1: What the fuck's going on? To it's happening? Now? What 945 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 1: the fuck am I gonna do now? To fucking make 946 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: this okay? Make this easier for me? Build for the future. Yeah, create, 947 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, more scaffolding to make myself more robust to 948 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 1: defend myself from these things in the future. And I 949 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 1: think that's where we need to get to collectively as 950 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,359 Speaker 1: a country, is to get off the like, what's going on? 951 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 1: Is this serially? Yes, it's fucking here, It's serious, it's here. 952 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 1: But the more people that understand the assignment, which is 953 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: no longer head scratching and being like is this guy 954 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 1: for real? And being like, this guy's for real? Now 955 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: we need to also think about what we get behind 956 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 1: and what our strategies are to defend against this. It'll 957 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 1: it'll make it slightly easier. Yeah, Yeah, it's it's extremely 958 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:29,000 Speaker 1: extremely destabilizing and chaotic, and yeah, like to the what 959 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 1: they always say, flood the zone with shit. It's a 960 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:31,840 Speaker 1: shit flood. 961 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 2: It is a ship flood of Noah's proportions. Yeah, but yeah, 962 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,280 Speaker 2: he he, he really went from I'll lower the price 963 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 2: of eggs to You're gonna have to deal with some 964 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 2: pain in a shockingly short period of time because he's 965 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 2: he's being like, yeah, prices are going to go up, 966 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 2: but uh, tough shit, it takes for me to swing 967 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 2: the big hammer. 968 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,799 Speaker 1: And I'm sure you've seen these things where people like 969 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: clip out Twitter interactions or like you know, truth social 970 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 1: interactions where small business owners are actually kind of realizing 971 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,280 Speaker 1: how this is going to end their small business. Yeah, 972 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 1: and like because you'll see people in their replies like, 973 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 1: christer President, I've been a fan. I've been a very 974 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,799 Speaker 1: loyal supporter of you since, you know, since since day one. 975 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: And I just want to say that some of these 976 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,800 Speaker 1: things will raise the cost of materials I need for 977 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 1: my business to the point where I may no longer 978 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: be able to run my family business that I've had 979 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 1: for fifty years. And then you have other people be like, 980 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,280 Speaker 1: shut up, you fucking lib and they're like, it's man, 981 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 1: I don't know but this shit will probably touch more 982 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 1: people in a way that they weren't expecting. And I'm 983 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,319 Speaker 1: sure that's the part that the one part accelerationists people, 984 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 1: people who are celebrating were like, well, yeah, man, now 985 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna fucking get it. And I mean, yeah, that's true. 986 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 1: But what do we what do we do after that? 987 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 1: Because it's one thing if people, you know, feel the 988 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: pain of what this terrible leadership is like, and it's 989 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: another if like they just don't do anything about it 990 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 1: and or just continue to just be like, yeah, well, 991 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,879 Speaker 1: I guess I'll just get in line because he beat 992 00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,760 Speaker 1: the shit out of me with his tariffs and stuff. 993 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 2: Right right, all right, we'll leave it there for today. 994 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 2: We're back tomorrow with no no. I want to keep 995 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 2: talking about what's wrong. We got Yeah, and if if, 996 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 2: if you got somebody to get behind by all means, 997 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,360 Speaker 2: I would love to. Let's find that motherfucker. 998 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 1: Let's just run for office, you know, let's do it. 999 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you run for Congress, I'll run for 1000 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 1: and I'll run on a platform. I don't give a 1001 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 1: fuck what they say, go ahead, primary, I don't give 1002 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,319 Speaker 1: a fuck. But I'm here while I'm here, I'm here, 1003 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 1: Good fucking luck trying to get me to vote with y'all. 1004 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 1: Fuck no, that's we need. We need that energy out there. 1005 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 1: That's the energy that I think people are going to 1006 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 1: respond to. That also could just be me and my 1007 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: mid traumatic episode days, but hey. 1008 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think I think we need Yeah, somebody 1009 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 2: who is outside of the current system as it's existed 1010 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 2: for the past. I don't know, lifetime, my lifetime, and 1011 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,239 Speaker 2: isn't using that power arbitrarily, you know, right, but is 1012 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 2: using it to challenge the things that are making people's 1013 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 2: lives worse. 1014 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 1: We don't need people who want to be in Congress 1015 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 1: who come outside of the typical group where people come 1016 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,319 Speaker 1: from that are in Congress, right. We need people who 1017 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,840 Speaker 1: are completely disconnected from the same value system as the 1018 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 1: current like that the current Congress subscribes to, which is 1019 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 1: do whatever you can to stay in office. If that 1020 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 1: means getting in line and completely going against your beliefs, 1021 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 1: then I'll do that because I want to be in office, 1022 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 1: like you need people to be Like, no, bro, use 1023 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 1: your time at the wall to fucking do good and 1024 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: then maybe if your shifts up and then so be it. 1025 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 1: And then you send up the next people to do 1026 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,440 Speaker 1: their shift at the wall. And I don't mean the 1027 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: fucking border wall. I'm at the Knight's watch Bro game 1028 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:42,359 Speaker 1: with of. 1029 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 2: Course we're all Game of Thrones. 1030 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 1: I think the only reason I said that I was 1031 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 1: at a farmer's market yesterday and I overheard this dude 1032 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,960 Speaker 1: bragging to another guy about how he was an extra 1033 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,359 Speaker 1: and Game of Thrones. Wow, really big dick in this. 1034 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 2: Here? Wogni from uh I was. 1035 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 1: One of the walkers. 1036 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, what are. 1037 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 1: You for real? 1038 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:06,879 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1039 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, I wasn't the night not the 1040 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 1: It's funny because the guy goes the fucking like the 1041 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 1: Night King. He's like, noah, no, no, He's like, but 1042 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 1: I was near the Night King so earnestly, and I'm like, bro, 1043 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 1: they shoot that ship in Europe. 1044 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're. 1045 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 1: Just flying out there to do extra work and then 1046 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 1: you first class. Okay whatever, man, that's cool. It's good 1047 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 1: to be back in the valley. 1048 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,360 Speaker 2: Oh man, I was one of the walkers. 1049 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 1: I was one of the walkers. We I'm sorry, who 1050 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 1: are you talking to? 1051 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 2: That's incredible. Yeah, I just want to follow those people 1052 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 2: around for the rest of the day. See what kind 1053 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:47,320 Speaker 2: of ship. 1054 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 1: I wish I could derive a sense of satisfaction from 1055 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 1: something like that that I completely made up in my mind. 1056 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 1: It would be things would be so much easier. Instead, 1057 00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 1: I have to walk around denying that I do a podcast. 1058 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 2: It no, no, I don't know no podcasts. 1059 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm ashamed of this podcast. I don't like the conversations 1060 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: I have to have with people who are into. 1061 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 2: Like who are like, oh, Joe Rogan, you. 1062 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 1: Work in podcasting? Yeah, you know flagrant the Flagrant podcast? Like, No, 1063 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 1: never heard of that. But anyway, I gotta go now, 1064 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 1: just say. 1065 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 2: Advertising there you hey, in a way, we do, we 1066 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 2: really do. All right, That is going to do it 1067 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,760 Speaker 2: for today. We are back tomorrow with a whole last 1068 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 2: episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other, 1069 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,919 Speaker 2: be kind to yourself, get your vaccines, whay you still 1070 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 2: can't get your flu shots, don't do nothing about white supremacy, 1071 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 2: and we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye bye,