1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back. I'm Josh. This is 2 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: the Late Kick Extra podcast for Tuesday morning, May fourth, 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: of the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty one. Just 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: a laughably tragic situation unfolding right outside the window next 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: to me as we speak high at top Downtown Nashville. 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: It's very very early Thursday morning. As I record, there's 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: a line of spirit thunderstorms moving through. And here's the 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: problem at the apartment complex I live at Downtown Nashville. 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: It's really nice, wonderful people. We just got new management 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: m and they've done everything that they could possibly do 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: to be welcoming. They've upgraded and overhauled some access systems 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: made this easier that easier. But one thing that I 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: want to warn any of you who ever go into 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: apartment management about is you can't forget to take down 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: the pool umbrellas when severe weather is approaching. It's not 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: a good look if you've been on the job ten 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: minutes or ten years. And right now our courtyard is 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: an absolute e F five level disaster. Fortunately, that looks 19 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: like it's as bad as it's going to get this morning. 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: But you may actually hear thunder as I record, because 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: it's really loud outside right now. I don't think I've 22 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: ever recorded or spoken to you during severe weather. So 23 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: here we go. I guess well, lit'sen. I got to 24 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: say something before we get into this really really good 25 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: mailbag you guys have given me. We have got some 26 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: people that are approaching some milestones personally and you don't 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: know them, and I'm not going to mention their names 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: until they give me the clearance to mention their names. 29 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: But you know, I talk a lot on these podcasts 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: and occasionally on Late Kick Live, I'll say, if you 31 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: want to book a zoom consultation with me, go ahead 32 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: and do it. I've been doing those for really a 33 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: long time, but I've been doing them really here for 34 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: a few months. And I'm very very proud of some 35 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: of the folks that have hopped in those and have 36 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: started YouTube channels or in a couple of cases, podcast 37 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: or maybe in another case applying to jobs that they 38 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: have been accepted to. And so I am all for 39 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: gratifying and I am all for promoting you guys as 40 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: soon as I have the clear aran's too. But ahead 41 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: of that, I just want to say, this is the 42 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: perfect time a year to jump on that stuff. If 43 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: you've ever thought about doing that, getting into sports media, 44 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: getting into media in general, starting your own YouTube channel, 45 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: podcast doesn't even have to be about sports media, but 46 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: if you've thought about doing that in the world of 47 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: sports media, really good time to do it. And I'm 48 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: really proud because some of the folks that I've only 49 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: spoken to in the past few months have already gotten 50 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: things off the ground about to make money in some 51 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: cases on that. So you'll see me periodically give shout outs. 52 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: And when I give shout outs, either on Twitter, Instagram 53 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: or on here, that's what that's about. So really proud 54 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: to see that. Hats off and hopefully what starts as 55 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: a hobby can end up becoming full time for you. 56 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: I know it can happen because it happened for me, 57 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: So congratulations there. All right, here's how this works. Tuesday 58 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: Thursday morning, every week it is Josh paid seven zero 59 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: six at gmail dot com or on Twitter or Instagram 60 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: at Latekickjosh. I'm taking questions and I'm delivering as good 61 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: an answer as I could possibly give you. It is 62 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: the Late Kick Extra mail Bag Tuesday edition of this week, 63 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: and let's dive right in. This morning because we've got 64 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: some good stuff. David leads us off. David said, well, 65 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: it was a long message. I'm going to kind of 66 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: paraphrase it down and then I'm going to dive into it. 67 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: David said, do you think college football is missing a 68 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: huge opportunity with the way out of conference scheduling currently happens? Now, 69 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: what David was talking about is right now, he thinks 70 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous that all these games, these out of conference 71 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: games are scheduled five years, ten years, sometimes fifteen years 72 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: ahead of time. And what he's saying is, how do 73 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: we know which program is going to be good or 74 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: if either program's going to be good by them? And 75 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: so what he mentioned is this last season we saw 76 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: what was possible, and I agree with this. I'll circle 77 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: back in a second. He said, we saw when Brigham 78 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: Young and Coastal Carolina got a game off the ground 79 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: in the span of a week. We saw that what 80 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: we had been told our whole lives about it taking 81 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: five or ten years in order to get an out 82 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: of conference game together, that was not true. Really, if 83 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: people were pressed into action, they can get it done 84 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: within the span of a week. And I agree with that. 85 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: So then David to circle back, like I said, is saying, 86 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: why don't we get better control of this? Why don't 87 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: we sort of do the accordion where we truncate it 88 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: and we wait until closer to the actual dates that 89 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: these games would happen, and we let universities and conferences 90 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: kind of work together and decide how do we best 91 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: market this, how do we best take advantage of the 92 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: opportunity that is out of conference scheduling. Now that was 93 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: David's very broad idea, and what I'm doing is I'm 94 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: going to build off of it, and I'm telling you 95 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: I would love this. Now I'm going to present something 96 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: that is purely concept. There would be several hurdles to overcome. 97 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: You would need to upend the system to do this, 98 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: but again, as Covid showed us, it is possible. Anything 99 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: that you really have to do, you'll find a way 100 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: to do so in concept, in theory. Imagine this if 101 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: this was the college football year. So you have the 102 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: National Championship game in January, and then the next thing 103 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: on your mind is National Signing Day, which is first 104 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: week of February, the second signing day first week of February, 105 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: and then you go into about a month month and 106 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: a half break, then you open spring. Here's what I'd 107 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: love to see. I would love to see tent pole 108 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: events at the beginning and end of spring. So I'd 109 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: like to see a little more uniformity in spring scheduling, 110 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: but independent of spring scheduling. Imagine if every year, if 111 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: you're a Clumson Tigers fan, before spring, you get your 112 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: conference schedule announced. Now, you may know the teams that 113 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna play, cause the rotation's already figured out. But 114 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: let's say the league collectively creates a tent pole event 115 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: right before spring opens for all the ACC teams. We 116 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: announce which games you're going to play in conference on 117 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: which dates, and so that's a huge event. Everyone's looking 118 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: forward to that scheduling event. But then comes the real 119 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: kicker after spring. So post spring, when everyone's wrapped their 120 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: spring games up and everything, there's a second announcement and 121 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: that's in conjunction with other conferences or other league partnerships. 122 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: This would be messy. I'm gonna grant you that, I 123 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: understand there would be a lot of fine print to 124 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: work out. You find out you're out of conference games 125 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: for that year after spring. Now, I want you to 126 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: pause for a second. Everyone just had a reaction to this. 127 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: Some of you loved it, some of you thought, oh, 128 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: there's no way that would work. Well. For those of 129 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: you who loved it, thank you. For those of you 130 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: who don't think that would work, let's walk through it. 131 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: I know why a lot of people think it wouldn't work, 132 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: and the majority of that has to do with you 133 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: being married to the concept that schedules have to be 134 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: worked out well in advance. Okay, I think we shot 135 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: down that notion this past year. So let's just rethink this. 136 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: Pretend like we just showed up to the table, remove 137 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: all your preconceived ideas about scheduling, and ask yourself, from 138 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: a pure practicality standpoint, what is really standing in the way. 139 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: Because a lot of times, in order to drag their 140 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: feet and make an intellectually dishonest argument, some administrative types 141 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: would say, oh, well, we got to book travel well 142 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: in advance. Oh well we got to do this and 143 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: that in advance. Ma'am, let me tell you something. That 144 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: stuff is not nearly the hindrance that they're telling you. 145 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: It is. If I were to who anounce a game 146 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: a week ahead of time, Yeah, that gets really hard. 147 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: If I'm announcing that thing four, five or six months 148 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: ahead of time, it's not especially if they know it 149 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: ahead of the public release. They can get a jump 150 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: start on all that and they could book it. So 151 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: I am not for a second going to be convinced 152 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: that procedurally they couldn't get that off the ground. Now 153 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: here's the second part. The second part is kind of 154 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: it's just kind of out there. It's nebulous. They'll tell you, well, 155 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: you can't schedule these games that quickly. It's got to 156 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: be done years in advance. And then you ask them 157 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: why and they say, logistics. But then you say, could 158 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: you give me some specifics on the logistics? And that's 159 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: say oh blah blahlah blah blah blah blah blah blah. 160 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: And essentially they would try and make you think you're 161 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: not smart enough to understand, when in reality they themselves 162 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: can't give you a tangible reason. So then here is 163 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: the third and probably biggest point. This is the pushback 164 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: you would get from coaches, And this is probably the 165 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: most valid one. I would just argue there is a workaround. 166 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: The valid pushback from coaches is pre spring and during 167 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: spring practice. Coaches like to work on future opponents. They 168 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: like to work especially non familiar opponents, so the ones 169 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: you don't play every year. If you're Clemson and we 170 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: find out that you're going to play the Missouri Tigers 171 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: this year, then they want to be working on some 172 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: of the very very early install type stuff in practice 173 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: in the spring. And if we're not finding out who 174 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: we're playing until after spring in the out of conference, 175 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: then how in the world are we supposed to do 176 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: this and that? YadA YadA, YadA. And look, there is 177 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: validity to that argument if the argument is this is 178 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: the way we've always done it, so if you change this, 179 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: it's going to change the way we've always done it. 180 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: But you know what I would say to that, respectfully, 181 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: if I were talking to Dabbo right now and he 182 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: were to push back on this using that thinking, I'd say, hey, 183 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: how do you find ways to get ready for bowl games? 184 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: Because they don't let you know who you're playing in 185 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: a bowl game until less than a month before the 186 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: game happens, and things tend to turn out okay, especially 187 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: for Clemson, they turn out okay a vast majority of 188 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: the time, and so the pushback would be again, blah blah, 189 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, that's what it would be. Here's the 190 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: bottom line. There is nothing that logically prevents us from 191 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: doing this other than well, that's just not the way 192 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: it works typically. Now, what David is saying is this 193 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: would be great. It would create spectacle. It would create 194 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: two tenth pole events in the spring. The NFL is 195 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: phenomenal to this. The NFL has understood how to spread 196 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: out their events over the course of a year to 197 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: own the entire sporting calendar. There is no NFL season. 198 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: The season is the entire twelve month calendar. That's what 199 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: I believe college football could do for itself because think 200 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: about what this would do. Here is the new college 201 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: football calendar. If we were to implement these changes, National 202 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: Championship in January, second signing Day in February, the announcement 203 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: of the conference schedule for each conference at the beginning 204 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: of spring. Then you have spring practice, spring game at 205 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: the end of March or more likely mid to late April. 206 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: Then at the end of spring practice you have the 207 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: announcement of your out of conference games. I mean that 208 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: would be a monster event. By the way, every single year, 209 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: finding out who you're going to play out of conference huge. 210 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: Then you have a little bit of a lull, but 211 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: really you don't because now you have transfer portal season 212 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: that happens at the end of spring. Then you have 213 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: off season camps, you have a recruiting hot period for 214 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: commitments for that upcoming cycle. Then you have media days 215 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: in July, then you have fall camp opening in August. 216 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: Then you have the season starting in September. It runs 217 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: through December early signing date, right after the end of 218 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: the regular season, and right before bowl season starts and 219 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: rents and repeat. There is no downtime there. The closest 220 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: thing you would get to downtime would be the month 221 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: of February, and then also the second portion would be 222 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: right around this time. So the end of spring, you 223 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: get your announcements for out of conference games, and then 224 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: you think it's the off season, but really it's not 225 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: because if you're a diehard college football fan, you know 226 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: there's a ton going on right now. I can't go 227 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: to twenty four to seven sports dot Com in a 228 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: ten minute period without seeing a new headline about someone 229 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: transferring or recruit groupment's happening or commitments happening. There is 230 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: no downtime. There is no off season. It's why we 231 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: don't use the word on the show. It's why there's 232 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: no month or two month break that we take for 233 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: Late Kick. We do these shows multiple times a week, 234 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: year round. Well, it's not just to keep up appearances. 235 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: If you understand the sport, you understand there's no reason 236 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: to ever take a whole lot of time off in 237 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: this thing. And that's before we implement the new proposed 238 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: structure here. If we were to implement this structure, then 239 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: you get two major scheduling events in the middle of spring, 240 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: combined with whatever else we already have going on. David, 241 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: I like the idea. I'm on board with it. Man. 242 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: Next up is Chase. Chase. This is a good question 243 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: because this is something I used to talk about a 244 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: lot when I was down in Columbus, about one team 245 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: in particular. Chase said, do you believe there is a 246 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: no man's land of sorts for elite programs when it 247 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: comes to record like an area that isn't bad enough, 248 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: but it also isn't good enough. So if I complain, 249 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: I sound ungrateful. But if I'm happy, I feel like 250 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: I've settled for less than I deserve Chase Man. You 251 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: might have this will have been listening to me when 252 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: Kevin someone was at Texas A and M, Kevin someonem 253 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: was at A and M, and Kevin someone at A 254 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: and M inevitably had that team floating in the nine 255 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: win per year range. It seemed like forever. In reality, 256 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: it didn't last that long. But tell an Aggie fan 257 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: in the midst of it, it didn't last that long. 258 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: And here's what was happening. They saw what was possible 259 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: when they had Johnny Manzel there and they had their 260 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: breakout year and they beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa in twenty twelve. 261 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: They saw what was possible, and so everyone collectively, all 262 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: of a sudden realizes, wait a second, Texas A and 263 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: M should be a national player. In reality, they always 264 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: should have been. But then they really realized it. We 265 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: got this sec affiliation now, and we got all this 266 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: money like we've always had, and we got immaculate facilities, 267 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: and we've got commitments to upgrade them if they're not immaculate. 268 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: So what's stopping us from being a national player? And 269 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: the answer was the mirror Texas A and M. That's 270 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: all that's ever stopped. A and M. Okay, and I 271 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: agreed with that. So then here's what happened. They never 272 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: really used that as a springboard. They never really took 273 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: the next step, so to speak. That's what everyone's always 274 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: looking for, Can you take the next step? Preview magazine 275 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: season is nearly upon us, and there'll be paragraph after 276 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: paragraph about which program is ready to take the next step? Well, 277 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: A and M got stuck in the same gear and 278 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: they never could take that next step. But here was 279 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: the problem. They weren't terrible either, and so Chase, here's 280 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: how it went down. Man. Every year they got further 281 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: and further down that road with Kevin Sumlin, more and 282 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: more people started to realize, we're not gonna win a 283 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: championship with this guy. But then in the very next 284 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: breath they said, but he's doing pretty good. And that 285 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: was exactly where they were. Where you just talked about, Chase, 286 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: That's exactly where they were. They're averaging, they're floating any 287 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: given year in that nine win per year kind of range. 288 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: And so on one hand, they look down and they 289 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: see a lot of their brethren way beneath where they are, 290 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: So they don't want to complain because they know it 291 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: could be so much worse. Look at where this program 292 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: is and that program is. But then they look up 293 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: and they say, oh, there's Alabama up there. I wish 294 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: we could be there. And so then if you complain, 295 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: you sound ungrateful because of all the folks beneath you, 296 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: and it's a no man's land. And what ended up 297 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: happening Chase and it kind of happened with Mark rickt 298 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: at Georgia. I got a question about this that I'm 299 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: going to tie back in later in the podcast. What 300 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: happens is fans get to a breaking point, and it 301 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: happens different for different fan bases. But maybe if you're 302 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: an A and M fan, you can relate to what 303 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: I'm about to talk about, because you know what I'm 304 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: talking about is true. That collective fan base got to 305 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: a point where they entered a season and they said, 306 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: I would rather win four games this year than win 307 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: eight games. They want to win a championship. They're not 308 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: pulling against the program, but what they have realized is 309 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: if we float at nine wins, it's never going to 310 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: be bad enough to fire this guy. But at the 311 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: same time, we believe we deserve a title and he 312 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: is never going to be good enough to deliver it. 313 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: So we would rather see things just go rock bottom. 314 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: We'd rather win eleven games this year or four games. 315 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: Don't give us a result in the middle, because a 316 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: result in the middle just endorses more of the same, 317 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: and it's going to push it another year further down 318 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: the road, and we're no closer to where we want 319 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: to be. And Chase you use the phrase no man's land. 320 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever heard a better description of 321 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: what that area of fandom sounds like and feels like. 322 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: Then no man's land. That's exactly where you are. You 323 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: find yourself in a very very uncomfortable situation of actually, 324 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: in a roundabout way, rooting against but also rooting for 325 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: your team. It's very difficult to explain to a non 326 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: sports fan, cause the non sports fan would say, well, 327 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: you want to win, don't you, And you'd say yeah, 328 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: And then you'd say, okay, well nine wins is good, right, 329 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: it's much better than most of the sport, and you 330 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: say yeah, and then they say, well, what's the problem, 331 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: And then you have to look at them and just 332 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: say you don't get it, and then they say no, 333 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: it actually sounds like there is someone in this room 334 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: that doesn't get it. It's just not me. And then 335 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: you understand why some people are made to be sports 336 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: fans and some people are made to run scuba diving 337 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: Instagram accounts. Both good, Both have their place in the world, 338 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: but sometimes one group has a hard time understanding the 339 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: other group, and with that the podcast rolls on. So 340 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: Shane is asking a question that is an evergreen question 341 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: in nature. It's relevant year round, and it's also one 342 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: of those questions that is genius to put in a 343 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: podcast because everyone has an emotional reaction to it. It's 344 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: kind of like, if you were to hear someone say, hey, 345 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: let me give you my opinion on whether aliens exist, 346 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: you are going to shut up for at least five 347 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: seconds and listen to what comes out of that person's 348 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: mouth next. Guaranteed, doesn't matter whether you're one hundred percent 349 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: convinced they do exist one hundred percent convinced they don't exist, 350 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: You're going to listen to what that person says. And 351 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: so Shane asked a very similar question, only it is 352 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: very terrestrial in nature. He said, are you a coffee man, Josh? 353 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: See what I mean? Everybody leaned in. You've all got 354 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: an opinion on this, and you've probably feel strongly about it, 355 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: because the folks who say they'll never drink coffee feel 356 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: every bit as strongly as those of you who have 357 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: three cups by the time you get to work in 358 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: the morning. Well, I've lived both lives, Chase. Let me 359 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: take it down a little rabbit hole, right, little caffeine 360 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: rabbit hole, if you will. So, for a long time 361 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: in my life, I never drank coffee. I mean none. 362 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: I had red bull I have worked out for a 363 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: long time, so the pre workout that I drink it 364 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: has caffeine in it. But as for coffee, I mean 365 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: I had had it before, but maybe like a cup 366 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: or maybe a sip or something like that. I had 367 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: never consistently been a coffee drinker. I just knew my 368 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: parents drink it growing up, I didn't. It always smelled good, 369 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: but tasted nasty to me. And the true irony. There's 370 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: a brand of candy I think it's called Nips. They 371 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: made coffee flavor candy that I loved. I mean I 372 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: was addicted to that stuff, but didn't like coffee in 373 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: and of itself. Well, then when I came to Nashville. 374 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: When I came to twenty four to seven Sports, I 375 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: get in our office up here and they have one 376 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: of those really fancy coffee machines. Now you're gonna have 377 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: to excuse me. I don't know all the terminology, you 378 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: Borista's out there. I talked to someone who works at 379 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: Starbucks in El Paso who listens to the show last week. 380 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really loose with the terminology here, and 381 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: you're just gonna have to roll with it. When I 382 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: got there and they had that fancy coffee machine, and 383 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: it got to be about three point thirty in the afternoon, 384 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: I started to occasionally drink coffee. But the problem is 385 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: I had no clue what that machine did, and I 386 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: didn't want to stand there like an idiot, and so 387 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: I just press buttons and it spat something out, and 388 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: I drank what it spat out, and I knew that 389 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: I felt more alive at four pm that afternoon than 390 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: I did at any point previously during any day that week. 391 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: So I said, that was fun. Think I'll do it 392 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: again tomorrow, And then I did, And so it became 393 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: a routine. And so a few weeks into working at 394 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: twenty four seven, when we were still in the office, 395 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: I became a coffee drinker. But the trick is I 396 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: did not know what I was drinking. I just knew 397 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: that it felt like I was inhaling gasoline and it 398 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: really made me feel awake. So then we fast forward. 399 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: The habit is established. I go from one cup a 400 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: day to the one cup morning, one cup afternoon. Then 401 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: I would just start stacking three cups. And they got 402 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: a word for it. I can't. Oh man, I'll think 403 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: of it addiction. Yeah, that's what they call it. Addiction. 404 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: So I started to form a little bit of an addiction, 405 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, like if I I haven't had it within 406 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: thirty minutes of my normal time, I start nervously scratching 407 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: on my neck, that sort of thing. You understand, you've 408 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: seen the gifts before. So then the Publisher's conference comes around. 409 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: This is where right before the pandemic set in. The 410 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: last big event that I went to was when we 411 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: get all the publishers from all the team sites. They 412 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: all come in Nashville and we rent out a big, 413 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: fancy hotel and everyone gets there and you just talk 414 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: about all the different plans you have for taking over 415 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: the world. Well before we did that. The day before, 416 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: a lot of the guys who live out of town 417 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: come in town, and so Bud Elliott, for example, comes 418 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: up from Orlando, and we're just talking around the office 419 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: and I kind of drift over and start making my 420 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 1: usual concoction out of the coffee machine. He says, oh, 421 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: you're a coffee man. Now, here's the thing about Bud. 422 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: Bud is a coffee guy. And allegedly, and he has 423 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: not proven this because he hasn't sent me the product yet, 424 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: although there were promises made in the past, Bud allegedly 425 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: makes his own cold brew coffee. Now I didn't even 426 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: know what that is, and to be honest with you, 427 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: I only drink it out of a can now. But 428 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: he tells me I make my own cold brew, and 429 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: so he knows exactly what he's talking about. He is 430 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: fluent in coffee. So I say, yeah, I'm a coffee man, 431 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: and he says, what do you drink? I said coffee? 432 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: He said, no, like, what do you drink though, because 433 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: there are a million different options on that machine. And 434 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: I said, well, here's the thing. I know the combination 435 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: of buttons, but that's about all I know, and he said, 436 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: let's see, And so I showed him what I've been drinking, 437 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: and I told him I drink espresso. And I had 438 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: no clue. When I tell you, I am not fluent 439 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: in coffee. I mean, I know nothing about coffee, and 440 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: I never took the time to learn. And that was 441 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: the big downfall for me leading to this day. And 442 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: so Bud looks at me and thinks I'm lying to 443 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: him when I say this right here, this combination of buttons, 444 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: I just press, that's what I drink every day. He said, no, 445 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: it's not that's not possible. And I said, what are 446 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: you talking about. Well, that's espresso. That's not coffee. And 447 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: I said to me, you just basically said tomato, tomato, 448 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: they're the same thing, brother, No, No, they're not. See espresso. 449 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: It's kind of a shot that you put in the 450 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: coffee that's pure caffeine. And so what I had been 451 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: doing to fast forward to the the end of this story, 452 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 1: I had just been drinking espresso shots and I had 453 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: been putting five or six of them at the time 454 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: in a cup. Well, it turns out that's equivalent to 455 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how many milligrams of caffeine. But when 456 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: I said it felt like I was ingesting gasoline. It 457 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: turns out it's really not all that dissimilar from drinking 458 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: actual gasoline in terms of the effect that has on 459 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: your body. So he shows me what you're really supposed 460 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: to do with that machine, and I drank it. It 461 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: was delicious. I fell asleep like ten minutes later, but 462 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: it was delicious. And so when I talk about my 463 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: coffee story, Shane, I've lived on all sides of this spectrum. 464 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: But what I do now is I don't really drink 465 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: coffee anymore. Again. What I do is I buy these 466 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: super cold brews in a can, and it's anywhere from 467 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty milligrams to two hundred fifty milligrams 468 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: of caffeine at a time. There's no sugar in it, 469 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: there's no calories in it. So it's really just caffeine. 470 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: And I don't know how to describe it. Here's how 471 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: I'll describe it. So these little cans, takes no time 472 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: to drink them. They're great. I'm drinking one as we speak. 473 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: How does it make you feel if someone if I 474 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: was trying to sell you on this, I would be 475 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: the greatest salesman in the world for these cold bruis 476 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: in a can. Here's how it makes you feel. If 477 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: you've ever walked in a grocery store and everybody wants 478 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: to rule the world by Tears for Fears is the 479 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: first song you hear playing on the loudspeaker. That is 480 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: exactly how these espresso shots in a can make you feel. 481 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: Cloud nine, You could float down the aisle, you have 482 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: an extra giddy up in your step. It's just great. 483 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: So I prefer these now, and that could be pound 484 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: for pound as intimate a peak as I've given you 485 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 1: into my private life. On this podcast today, Martin's got 486 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: a question about coaching interviews, and I got a really 487 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: good story about that that I really didn't remember until 488 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: I looked at the question for Martin. I'll share that 489 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: with you when we come back. Martin asked about the 490 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: favorite coach interview I've ever done. Now, we've had some 491 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: good coaching interviews. I had a guy criticized me for 492 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: publicizing the latest Nick Saban interview. We had you like, 493 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: that's something that you want to keep a secret and 494 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: just release with no marketing behind it. That makes all 495 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: the sense in the world. Good luck getting in business, 496 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: my friend. But that's not my favorite coach interview. It's 497 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: great when we have Nick saban On. We've had a 498 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: lot of interview over the past year, but my favorite 499 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: interview is one of the first ones I ever had. Now, 500 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: this did not make sense to me. I thought when 501 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: I first got into sports media that interviews. There goes 502 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: another real big clap of thunder. I thought these interviews 503 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: were going to be impossible to get. So there I 504 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: am down in Columbus. We're doing a late night college 505 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: football thirty minute show five nights per week on the CW, 506 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: which is in the TV world a D two station. 507 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: It's not your main NBC, ABC, Fox, It's the secondary 508 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: affiliate network that you have, and so we're doing it 509 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: on that channel. I mean, friends and family are watching 510 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: the show. We ended up building a pretty good following there. 511 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: But it's a late night D two broadcast Columbus, Georgia. 512 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: We're not exactly sending Man to the Moon on this thing. 513 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: And so I just start reaching out. I figure what 514 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: can I lose. I start reaching out to all kinds 515 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: of universities, and I either get we'll see no or 516 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: no response at all to my interview request for head coaches, 517 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: but then Claude Felton from the University of Georgia gets 518 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: back to me. I asked for Mark Rick. At the time, 519 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: Mark Rick was the head coach at Georgia, and Claude says, hey, 520 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: when do you want him? I said what they said, Yeah, 521 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: when do you want him? And so there was no hesitation. 522 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: Mark Rick said I'll do it. And Mark Rick comes 523 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: on that show and we had a really good back 524 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: and forth. It was before Georgia opened Fall Camp. I 525 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: want to say it was twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen. 526 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: It probably was twenty fourteen, and so Mark Rick ended 527 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: up being the first coaching interview I got. I got 528 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: coaches from the Sun Belt not giving me the time 529 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: of day, and the head coach at the University of 530 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: Georgia comes on that show. And what was funny is 531 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: we had to pre record it because the actual show 532 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: happened at ten o'clock at night, and so this was 533 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: my first taste of interacting with college football coaches. He 534 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: gets on and he says, now, Josh, let me know 535 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,959 Speaker 1: are we live or are we pre recording here? And 536 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: I said, we're pre recording. Coach so we can cut 537 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: out whatever you need. He said, don't know, I don't 538 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: need you to cut anything out, Believe it or not, 539 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: I've done this once or twice. No, what I have 540 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: is I'm expecting calls from recruits at any given time, 541 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: and so if I have to take one of those calls, 542 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: can we just pause this thing and pick it up later. 543 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, you know what, I think I'll 544 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: allow that. So Martin, I'm going to roll with Mark 545 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: rickt as my favorite coach interview that I've ever done, 546 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: mainly because it was the first coaching interview I've ever done, 547 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: and I have not forgotten that the head coach at 548 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: Georgia tells you yes, when you got the head coach 549 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: at unnamed universities and conferences of let's just say, far 550 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: less stature than the SEC telling you no. So thank 551 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: you to Mark Rick, who I'm sure is listening to 552 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: the podcast this morning. George has a question about Jamison Williams. 553 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: That's the transfer yesterday. If you're listening on Thursday, this 554 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: happened transfer from Ohio State to Alabama. Wide receiver played 555 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: in the National Championship game against Alabama. I think he 556 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: had one catch in that game, Jamison Williams could outrun 557 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: his own shadow. He is a big time speed guy. 558 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: He'll fit in well at Alabama. It's a situation where 559 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: all parties win. Alabama wins calls, they bolster their receiver room, 560 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: which wasn't exactly hurting. But at the same time, I 561 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: do think Williams is probably good enough to get on 562 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: the field right away for them. Ohio State is overflowing 563 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: with receiver talent. It's the deepest wide receiver room in 564 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: the country. They have right now, sort of on paper 565 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: what Alabama has had over the last couple of years. Now, 566 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: granted we've already seen the production from Alabama, you still 567 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: have to see the production from a lot of the 568 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: guys at Ohio State. I think you'll see. It's spoiler alert. 569 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: But this is good for everyone. It's not good for 570 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: the rest of you. I was thinking about this the 571 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: other day. I was doing another show and we were 572 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: talking about Auburn and the host that had me on 573 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: was talking about what is needed from Brian Harrison and 574 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: what's needed in recruiting, and I said, well, before we 575 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: get to recruiting, let's see how the transfer portal plays out. 576 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: Who's to say, and ironically I mentioned Ohio State. I said, 577 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: what if a quarterback or a wide receiver or two 578 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: or both just all of a sudden hit the open market, 579 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: the transfer market from Ohio State and they land at Auburn. 580 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: I'm not using any intel or information I have. I 581 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: just threw it out there as a hypothetical. I mean, 582 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: that could change the trajectory of Auburn football for this 583 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: year and beyond. Well, there's also another possibility, as we're 584 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: seeing born out here in the Jamison Williams situation, where 585 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: you could just leave one loaded roster and go to 586 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: another loaded roster. And that's exactly what he did. He's 587 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: going from a place he can win national championship to 588 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: plays he'll be favored to win the national championship. But 589 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: I think by and large, when you look at the 590 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: transfer portal, we're seeing a lot of test cases play 591 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: out right now in many different ways, Jamison Williams and otherwise, 592 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: many different ways we're seeing test cases. There are no 593 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: trends yet, there are no case studies yet. Right now 594 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: we're at the kind of outset, or the infancy, if 595 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: you will, of the transfer portal era. And so ten 596 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: years from now, we'll be able to look right now 597 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: kind of like we do already with the early signing 598 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: period and know what to expect. I remember when the 599 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: early signing date first happened, you had a wide range 600 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: of opinion. Some people told you, oh, there may be 601 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: a couple of kids commit on that day, but February, 602 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that'll still be the big national signing day. 603 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: And then Georgia locked up a number one class in 604 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: the country because they just smoked everyone on that early 605 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: signing date. The first year round, well, then the next 606 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: year people adjusted. And I think the same way with 607 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: the transfer portal, in that we're going to find out 608 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: what to expect, and especially now that you have the 609 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: grant with all the conference is basically getting on board 610 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: or I eventually think they will get on board to 611 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: say that you can transfer one time in conference even 612 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: I mean that removes all the barriers, and so every 613 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: single year you're going to enter this period. You don't 614 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: have to like it. Whether you like it or not, 615 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: that's independent. I'm not even going down that road right now. 616 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: But if you're a head coach worth a salt, you're 617 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: going to have to figure out a way to leverage 618 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: it to your advantage, whether you again like it or not. 619 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: A lot of coaches out there who grew up playing 620 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: defense don't like that they have to score fifty five 621 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: points a game to win, but yet they not only 622 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: do it, they have figured out a way to win 623 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: big time doing it. You got to do the same 624 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: thing with the transfer portal. You'll have to do the 625 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: same thing with name, image and likeness. All right, let's 626 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: hit this question here. How about this one? You can 627 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: think along with me, which game would you rather see 628 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one for Florida Alabama versus Florida or 629 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: Georgia versus Florida. Both these games are on the schedule 630 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: Georgia Florida every year, but Bama goes to the Swamp 631 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: in Week three this year. That's the one I'd rather see. 632 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: I would rather see Bama at Florida because that is 633 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: an early season game. I want you to think about 634 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: this out loud. I was on David waters Pot cast. 635 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: He does a really good Florida podcast, Gators Breakdown yesterday, Yeah, yesterday, 636 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: and he was asking me about this too, and I thought, 637 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: early in the season, Alabama on the road, a lot 638 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: of young kids are gonna play for Alabama this year, 639 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: and they haven't been in a true college road environment 640 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,479 Speaker 1: because of COVID last year, So you're gonna throw them 641 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: in front of potentially a packed house in Gainesville in 642 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: early season action. So maybe the offense is not quite 643 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: settled in yet. You got a lot of new pieces 644 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: you're trying to work with. But then at the same time, 645 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: I think Alabama's defense is going to be massively upgraded, 646 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: So you're gonna take that unit on the road. Defense 647 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: travels with you wherever you go. And on Florida side, 648 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out offense with Emrie Jones and 649 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 1: you're not gonna have the downfield passing attack you had 650 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: with Kyle Trask, So how are you manufacturing offense? Can 651 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: you do it enough to outscore Alabama? What is outscoring 652 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: Alabama going to look like in that game? Do you 653 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: have to score forty or is it going to be 654 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: a twenty six to twenty three kind of game? I 655 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: don't know. That's really fascinating, And so that's the early 656 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: season game that I picked, and I actually we do 657 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: plan on being at that game, So for whatever that's worth, 658 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: I actually think I'll be at both of these games 659 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: Georgia Florida. You can't go wrong. But I've been at 660 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: that game several years. I'd actually picked this one. Last 661 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: time I was down at Florida was for the Auburn 662 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: Florida game, and that was a great home environment. I mean, 663 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: the crowd so obviously impacted that game that day that 664 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: I would expect. I'd expect a better environment actually for 665 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: this one because it's the first time. It's the first 666 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: big game in that venue since COVID happened, and I 667 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: would expect a lot of people, a lot of our 668 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: friends down in Florida will be very happy to be 669 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: back in the swamp and creating the home field environment 670 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: that that team deserves. Really good podcasts this morning. Remember 671 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: if you want to book a Zoom consultation. Joshpat seven 672 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: zero six at gmail dot com. And also, I've been 673 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: interacting with a lot of you on Instagram really having 674 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: fun over there. We've started to take that seriously. The 675 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: account has started to grow. Word of mouth always the 676 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: best marketing, So make sure you're following me there and 677 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: make sure you're telling fifty, yes fifty of your friends 678 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: about it. At late Kick, Josh got a whole lot 679 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: of stuff planned for that account that you will really 680 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: love as the season approaches and during the season blowout 681 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: blowout coverage. So thank you so much for listening this 682 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: morning for producer Jordan, I'm Josh Pate. Have a great 683 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: rest of your day and God bless