1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Kabbooms. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 2: of the Old Republic, a soul fashion of fairness. He 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse. 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Wow. 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: The Clearinghouse of Hot takes break free for something special. 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now in 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: the air. 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: Everywhere. 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: Welcome into the Audio Dojo and an exciting fifth Hour 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: with Ben Mahler and Danny g Radio. A show that 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: I have been looking forward to providing you. We talked 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 3: about it on the Overnight Show this week, and here 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: it is. You're gonna hear the full unedited version of 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: a conversation we're gonna have here in a few minutes 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: with oh Mar this scale. I. I love having these 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: baseball guys on the podcast. We've had a few of 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: them on over the years, but we can now add 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 3: the name of Omarvis Skelf. You're not familiar, you should 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: know who this guy is if you're a baseball fan. 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 3: But one of the finest defensive shortstops that I've ever 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 3: seen in my lifetime and in baseball history, and he 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: retired over a decade ago. Twenty twelve was his last season, 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: but the scale played twenty four years. He spanned four 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: decades in Major League Baseball. Came up in nineteen eighty nine, 28 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 3: and his name is constantly brought up in the Hall 29 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: of Fame conversation. There's this great debate because of his 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: defensive prowess whether she'd be in the Hall of Fame 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: or not. We'll get into that at some point of 32 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: the Pride of Venezuela. He retired as the all time 33 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: hits king from Venezuela. He's been passed since then by 34 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: Miguel Cabrera. And he played for the Mariners the Cleveland Indians, 35 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: the team that he is most known for, but he 36 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: also at the end of his career played for the Giants, 37 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: the Texas Rangers, the White Sox, and the Blue Jays. 38 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: But he won eleven Gold Gloves, had nine consecutive for 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 3: nine consecutive years. This guy was the top defensive shortstop 40 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: and it wasn't even up for debate from nineteen ninety 41 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 3: three to twenty oh one. In fact, now that we 42 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: can look back at the career of Omarvis Scale, his 43 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 3: feeling percentage is tied for the highest all time. I mean, 44 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: I'll give you the guy's whole resume here. It's very impressive. 45 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: And he's also the all time leader in double plays 46 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: turned as a shortstop. And he tied Cal Ripkens American 47 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: League record for the most consecutive games without an error, 48 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 3: and he did that back in the late nineties early 49 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: two thousands. There and just all kinds of accolades for 50 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: a shortstop. In fact, I was re that Omar has 51 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 3: the third most hits all time among shortstops. He's number 52 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: three behind who how about Derek Jeter and Honus Wagner, 53 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: who most people these days rightfully so only know as 54 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: a as a baseball card. But there's something else I wanted. 55 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: To bring up. 56 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 3: We'll get into this with Omar at some point when 57 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: he joins us here in a minute, that Omarvis SkELL 58 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 3: is the modern era leader in sacrifice hits and sacrifice flies. 59 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: If you combine sacrifice hits and sacrifice flies, something that 60 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: is not that big a part of the game these 61 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: days as much as it was back when he played, 62 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: but three hundred and fifty combine sacrifice hits and sacrifice 63 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 3: flies from Omarvis Skeal. And to give you an idea, 64 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: I was reading some of the nerd websites, and they 65 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: keep track of everything. There is no other player in 66 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: the modern era of baseball that has reached three hundred. 67 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: He's at three point fifty. The next highest. To give 68 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: you an idea, who's close is the Wizard of Oz 69 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: Ozzy Smith. They went back and they tracked Ozzie Smith's 70 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: career with the Cardinals and the Padres and all that 71 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy seven sacrifice flies and sacrifice hits 72 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: combined for Ozzie Smith. But Omarvus Scale you talk about 73 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 3: unbreakable records, the fact that he played so long, and 74 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: the fact that the sacrifice hit is not something that 75 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: is regularly part of the game these days. So certainly 76 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 3: that is a record that will likely not be broken 77 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: in my lifetime, and the way the game is going 78 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 3: is going to be many many generations before anyone even 79 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 3: sniffs that record. Mentioned all the gold gloves, he also 80 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 3: winning eleven gold gloves. 81 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 4: He was the. 82 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: Oldest shortstop ever to win a gold Glove. I mean, 83 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: there's all kinds He's got all kinds of records. If 84 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 3: you're a baseball fan, which I assume you're listening to 85 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 3: this podcast, you are. You dig into some of the 86 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: numbers for the player known as Little Low and you're like, Wow, 87 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: Like this guy, his name's on all these lists and 88 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: accomplishments and amazing. The thing that I can't get over though, 89 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: and you think about baseball players, most of them plast 90 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: a couple of years in the big leagues. 91 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: If they're lucky, get a cup of coffee. 92 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: Maybe they can get vested into the pension plane in 93 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: baseball if they play a certain number of years and 94 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: all that, But to go as long as Visculle did 95 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 3: here at shortstop to break the record. He was the 96 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: oldest player in Major league history to take the field 97 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: as a shortstop. 98 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: He broke a. 99 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: Record that had been around for almost one hundred years 100 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: when he did that at the end of his career 101 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 3: with the Blue Jays in twenty twelve. Just an amazing, 102 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 3: amazing accomplishment during his career. And I have a chance 103 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: to catch up with him, so Olmarvus Scale. He was 104 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: the last active player, we said this, the last active 105 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: player in any of the major North American professional sports leagues. 106 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: That played in the nineteen eighties. He was the last one. 107 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 3: We now welcome in to the fifth Hour with Ben 108 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: Maller and Danny g the man. We have just been 109 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 3: buttering up here the shortstop O Marvis Scales, So let's 110 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: start with this, Omar. What was the secret to that amazing, 111 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: amazing longevity. 112 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: Well, I think it was a hard eddication to stay 113 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 4: in the gym and try to prove yourself every year 114 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 4: that you're fighting against yourself to get in the best 115 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 4: condition that you can get and make sure that you 116 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 4: can play one hundred and sixty two games. That was 117 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 4: my ultimate goal. Obviously, the manager have all the ideas. 118 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: They want to give you days off in between, they 119 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 4: want to rest you in between, and obviously when you're struggling, 120 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: they always want to give you a day off so 121 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 4: you refresh, that you think about the things that you're 122 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 4: doing wrong and all that. So, but for me, it 123 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 4: was more like a pride to play for a long time. 124 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 4: I take pride of that because I was in the 125 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: gym all the time. I like to run, I still 126 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 4: like to do a lot of exercises, and that was 127 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 4: the whole key about it. 128 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: Now, when you started playing, did you have an idea 129 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: in your head, how long you thought this would last? 130 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: Because most major league careers, as you know, they. 131 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: Don't last that long. Did you have an idea You're 132 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: going to play a while? Did this thing just keep 133 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: you every year? You kept going and going because most 134 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: people only last a few years in the big pause. 135 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: What was your plan when you started with the Mariners. 136 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 4: Well, actually, you don't have a plan on how long 137 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 4: you can play. I was really struggling in the beginning 138 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 4: of my career, and I was afraid that I was 139 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 4: going to be sent down to Triple A. So that's 140 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 4: what I took time for my preparation and everything because 141 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 4: I wasn't quite sure that I wasn't going to stay 142 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 4: in the big league for too long. I was a 143 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 4: short guy, I didn't have power. I started learning. I 144 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 4: started switch hitting on my last year or my minor 145 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 4: league career, so when I make it to the big league, 146 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: I was only switch hitting for a year. And that 147 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 4: was a really really big step that I did in 148 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 4: order for me to learn how to hit left handed 149 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 4: and to get used to all the pitching in the 150 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 4: big league. He was pretty tough. It was a tough 151 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 4: process for me. 152 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: Now when you talked about how you wanted to play 153 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: every day and you prided yourself on that. 154 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: We are in the era now omar in all of. 155 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: Sports, maybe not so much in baseball, but in football, 156 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: in basketball, some of the other sports where load management 157 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: is where you know players are supposed to rest a 158 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: certain amount of time. What do you think about the 159 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 3: new wave in sports with not playing every game, taking 160 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: days off, getting extra rest. 161 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: Compared to how you played back in your day. 162 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know. The evolution on every sport, 163 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 4: it has shown that if you take a rest, maybe 164 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 4: you can perform in a higher level sometime when they 165 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 4: need you down the road in the playoff, or in 166 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 4: the worst series, or or late during the season. So 167 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 4: the numbers are showing that, and I think that's that's 168 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 4: why a lot of front offices and managers and coaches 169 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 4: are trying to give your players a rest when they 170 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 4: think that you're not performing one hundred percent. So they 171 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 4: they raise your mind, they raise your body, and the 172 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 4: next time that you come into the field, I think 173 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: that you're more prepared to take the challenge and to 174 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 4: go after everything that you have to go. 175 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: So this year they changed a lot and This is 176 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 3: a dramatic change in Major League Baseball with the pitch 177 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: clock coming in here. 178 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: Uh, what do you what do you think. 179 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: Of that omar You play your entire career obviously without it, 180 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: it's brand new. What do you think about a clock 181 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 3: being in baseball? 182 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's affecting a lot of pitchers because 183 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 4: they're not used to that kind of a quick, quick release. 184 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 4: Your body is not used to it. That you used 185 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 4: to take a long time in between pitches to think 186 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 4: what is the next pitch that you're gonna throw and 187 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 4: all that. But I think that you have really prepare 188 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 4: your conditioning because it's a tough pace. It's very fast. 189 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 4: The only good benefit and things that I see is 190 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 4: that you get more focused and you stay focused in 191 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 4: a longer period of time. The same with the hitting. 192 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 4: I didn't like when pictures take a long time because 193 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: it made me think too much. I was one of 194 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 4: those hitters that I like to get into a rhythm 195 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 4: and now as the quickest that they get into the mound, 196 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 4: the better for me. And it works the same when 197 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: you play the defense. In the defensive side, you like 198 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 4: the pictures that work quick, that work fast, and that 199 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 4: also gets you going and get your rhythm going. 200 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: Was there any picture back, I mean, you played a 201 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: long time. Was there anyone in particular that took forever 202 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: on the mound that you remember that you were hearing 203 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 3: the you know, in the in the batter's box there 204 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 3: and it just kept going on and on the step 205 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: off the mound. 206 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, there is. 207 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 4: There were a lot of guys that you know, like 208 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 4: to take the time and make sure that they get 209 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 4: it right. Usually big guys, heavy guys, They like to 210 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 4: pace itself a little bit, to stay longer in the mound. 211 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 4: But you know, out of the top of my head, 212 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 4: I can't recall anybody right now. 213 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: And the clock is here. 214 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 3: Also, this has been the way for like ten fifteen 215 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 3: years in baseball now. But analytics the debate which continues. 216 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: Is it analytics which is just going by the raw 217 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: numbers like how you bat versus certain situations versus the 218 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: feel of the game, and when you played most of 219 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: your career. I guess near the end of it they 220 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 3: switched over to analytics somewhere. But are you more of 221 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: a feel of a game guy or do you side 222 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: with the analytics side in baseball? 223 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 4: Well, I guess like, if you want to stay in 224 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 4: the game, you have to go with the analytics side 225 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: and combine it with all the intuition that you have 226 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 4: for the game. I think that can be the biggest skei. 227 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 4: I hear talking managers about how much the analytics and 228 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: the numbers have influenced their decision to make later on 229 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 4: the game. And the thing is the percentage is the 230 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 4: percentage is showing that you got more than seventy percent 231 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 4: that is going to be right, then you can use that, 232 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 4: but you also have to look at the game, look 233 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 4: at your players, know your players, and use the intuition 234 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 4: when you're smelling something that is going against the number. 235 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 4: So I think that's the best way to describe it. 236 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 4: Right now. A lot of people is going crazy because 237 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 4: of the numbers. There has been managers getting into trouble 238 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 4: because of the number. The players don't like it too 239 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 4: much because they think that they deserve their respect. But 240 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 4: the players don't take a look at the numbers too much. 241 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 4: They just want to go on the field and perform 242 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 4: and they know the things that they have to do, 243 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 4: and sometimes the numbers doesn't show it anymore. 244 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it is. It's gonna be a balance. 245 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: I think right a little bit of this, a little 246 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 3: bit that you can't you can be all in one direction. Now, 247 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: as far as this season in baseball, the talk right now, 248 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: we are not that far away from the trade that line. 249 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: And Shohei Otani of the Angels has been remarkable on 250 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: the mound and at the plate is looking like he's 251 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: gonna win the American League MVP again. He's also going 252 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 3: to be a free agent at the end of the season. Omar, 253 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: how much you think he's gonna get in a contract 254 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: next season because he cannot only obviously pitch, but hit 255 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: a bunch of home runs. 256 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: But where do you think he ends up and how 257 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: much do you think he's gonna get? 258 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 4: Well, you know that this is one of the most 259 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 4: exciting players that we have in the last fifty years, 260 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: not only because he can hit the ball for power 261 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 4: that he can hit for average, he can also throw 262 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 4: the ball and have low numbers and ear rays and 263 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 4: all the numbers that you can put in there. So 264 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 4: I think it's going to break the bank. 265 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 2: Man. 266 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 4: Otani's gonna be one of those five hundred million dollar players, 267 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 4: and he's going to be the first one to reach 268 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 4: that amount, and there is no doubt that he's going 269 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 4: to be few teams interesting on that. The fact that 270 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 4: he has the Asian market of all the uh everybody 271 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 4: love him out there and and all the international UH things. 272 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,119 Speaker 4: News that he can bring into a team's gonna be amazing. 273 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 4: So I can't wait to see the negotiations and how 274 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 4: many teams are going to jump into that. 275 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 3: How come you think no one has really been allowed 276 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 3: to do that like Otani? Like when you were playing, 277 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: there were probably guys you played with it could have 278 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: tried pitching and hitting and whatnot. What how come they 279 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: weren't allowed to do it for so long? What do 280 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: you think the mindset was behind that when you were playing? 281 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: Well? 282 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 4: I think players concentrate on play only one position, and 283 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 4: they don't they don't want to deal with the other side. 284 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 4: It takes a law, it takes away a lot from 285 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 4: your body. And I think that's why i'm the fact 286 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 4: that that you can find many athletes that can do 287 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 4: this kind of thing. It's like the on stand, there's 288 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 4: a guy like Bo Jackson that can play two sports. 289 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 4: I mean this, guys have an amazing abilities. They come 290 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 4: once in a lifetime and we are We have to 291 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 4: be lucky to watch this guy, because I don't remember 292 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 4: the last time that you can see a baseball player 293 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 4: that can pitch the way he does, and they can 294 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 4: hit the way he does and even run. I mean, 295 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 4: this guy does it all. 296 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, he's absolutely amazing. 297 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 3: We're hanging out talking with Omarvis Scale here joining us 298 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: on the fifth hour, and so Omar, you played for 299 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 3: a bunch of teams twenty four seasons, but you're most 300 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: associated with the Cleveland Indians and had with part of 301 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: those great teams in the nineties. Now they are called 302 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: the Guardians. What was your what were your thought on 303 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: the name change there in Cleveland. 304 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a little sentimental thing going through my 305 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 4: mind because obviously I played the good years there when 306 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 4: the Indians were called and all the logos and all 307 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 4: the uniforms and hats and pictures that we have with 308 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 4: the other logo was one of the most exciting, exciting 309 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 4: things that I remember. Now changing the name, I guess 310 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 4: there was a little a little trouble with with the 311 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: ownership and the name, and you know, there's one of 312 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 4: the things that you can't really say much about it. 313 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 4: You don't have any any saying on on that, but 314 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 4: I obviously keep following the team. That team give me 315 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 4: a lot of satisfaction in my life. I have one 316 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 4: of my best years there with with that organization. There 317 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 4: is still a lot of friends that are tied up 318 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 4: to the to the Guardians, and I always rooting for them. 319 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 4: I mean, there's one of the teams that I always 320 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 4: love watching. 321 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: And you're in there Hall of Fame? Is that right? 322 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: You're in there the franchise Hall of Fame? What was 323 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: that like getting inducted into that amazing? 324 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: Amazing you know, having that walk from centerfield that's what 325 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 4: they have, the little hole there with the players that 326 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 4: they put into the Hall of Fame, and then walking 327 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: into the mound and then having the opportunity to talk 328 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 4: to the fans and saying some words. It was one 329 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 4: of the most amazing things that happened in baseball for me. 330 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 3: Now, I remember when you were playing one of your 331 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 3: your nicknas, you were known for the sacrifice part of 332 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: your game. I think one story is called you the 333 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 3: Sultan of the Sacrifice. I think you have like the 334 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 3: most sacrifices of anybody in the modern era of baseball. 335 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: But over when you watch the game. It's very rare 336 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 3: that you will see someone do what you were so 337 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: good at. What do you think it's going to take 338 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: to get that back more into the game of baseball 339 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 3: more regularly part of the game. Something you were so 340 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: good at a. 341 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 4: Lot of a lot of things. I going back and 342 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 4: trying to use the bond as one of the way 343 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 4: to score some runs. You know, I take a lot 344 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 4: of pride on that because I was really good at bonding. 345 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 4: I think that I one of the best bonners in 346 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 4: my era, and that probably sacrificed a lot of hits 347 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 4: for me. I don't think that if I bond this 348 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 4: so many times, I would have had three thousand hits 349 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 4: in the mid legs. So a lot of people told 350 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 4: me that, But you know, just the way it goes. 351 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 4: I was the team player, and I wanted the team 352 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 4: to win, and I sacrificed myself so the other guys 353 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 4: can bring their runs in. So, you know, that was 354 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 4: the way that the game was playing those years. 355 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 3: Now, let's go back to those those Cleveland Indians teams. 356 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 3: There you had several dominant teams. You guys were amazing 357 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 3: in that period of awesome offense. You were the rocket shortstop, 358 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: you had good pitching. What do you what do you 359 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: think the thing was that that caused those issues in 360 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 3: the World Series. I was actually at the nineteen ninety 361 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 3: seven World Series, Omar, I was covering it when you 362 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 3: guys played the Marlins and that crazy Game. 363 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: Seven and all that. 364 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: But what do you what do you think it was 365 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 3: about that that team that you just you got right 366 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 3: to the edge, which you couldn't get past the finish line. 367 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 4: Well, that's just the way baseball is. You know, Sometime 368 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 4: you have the team, sometimes you don't have the team. 369 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 4: It's just a matter of what team is playing better 370 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 4: at that particular time. I think that we played really good. 371 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 4: We went into the Game seven, but we couldn't close 372 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 4: the door. But you know, that's just baseball. We have 373 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 4: an amazing team balance everywhere. We have pitching, we have closers, 374 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 4: we have relievers, power average, we have jose about a 375 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 4: little bit of everything. The Josah, you know, the Models 376 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 4: play better baseball on that on that year, and then 377 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 4: we got beat by the Braves on ninety five where 378 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 4: they have smalld gloving and uh maddox. Yeah, so you 379 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 4: know those are those were the masters of pitching on 380 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 4: the nineties and we run into that trouble there, but 381 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 4: you know, so excited that we have the opportunity to 382 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,239 Speaker 4: be there and to share that that experience with your 383 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 4: family and with the rest of your teammates. 384 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: Now, one are the other stories going on right now 385 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: is the story out of Oakland and the Athletics are 386 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: starting the process to leave Oakland. Do you have any memories. 387 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 3: Do you have any memories of playing games? I mean, 388 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: the As had some good teams when you were you 389 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: were playing. 390 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 4: I got the best memory. My first open when I 391 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 4: make it to the big league was in Oakland. So 392 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 4: that is in the coliseum. That was the first baseball 393 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 4: field that I see when I came up to the 394 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 4: big leagues in eighty nine. That was April third, nineteen 395 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 4: eighty nine. You can look it up and I have 396 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 4: to face guys like Dave Stewart, Stearne, Davis, Dennis Eckersley, 397 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 4: and obviously they have the power batch guy we can 398 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 4: sec on my wire day, Parker Ricky Henderson. That was 399 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 4: the team that everybody liked to talk about, and the 400 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 4: fact that they put fifty thousand people on those seats 401 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 4: was amazing. I know, that Oakland was wild. That was 402 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 4: crazy for baseball. The things that you see in Oakland 403 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 4: you didn't see anyone else and it was one of 404 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 4: the best memories for me playing in the coliseum. It's 405 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 4: just too bad that they couldn't work it out. Obviously, 406 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 4: the ownership. I don't know if they're showing in nothings 407 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 4: to stay in Oakland. But it's kind of tough for 408 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 4: me because it was the first baseball field that I 409 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 4: play when I came up. 410 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: And how do you think Vegas is gonna do if 411 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 3: this actually happens though? I mean, I would think guys 412 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 3: coming into Vegas on the road that might be a 413 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 3: big home field advantage for the for the athletics there, 414 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 3: because you go to Vegas on a road trip there. 415 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: You how do you think that's gonna work out? 416 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. I'm sure everything is done here 417 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 4: by numbers analytics, just like in baseball. So if they 418 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 4: have the numbers and they see then go work it out. 419 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 4: Go ahead. I think it's gonna be a tough situation 420 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 4: for them. There is a lot of things to do 421 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 4: in Vegas. Everybody knows what Vegas is famous for, and 422 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 4: I hope that they can back up baseball as well 423 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 4: as they has been backing up the Triple A team 424 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 4: they have right now. I did play there in that 425 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 4: ballpark also, and I think people respond. They have good crowds, 426 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 4: and I hope they can have a good success there. 427 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, now let's go. 428 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 3: You want a bunch of gold gloves when you you're 429 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 3: playing all with the Indians, all these different teams here. 430 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 3: Is there anyone you watch today in baseball? I think 431 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 3: of you and some of those guys before you as 432 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 3: maybe unbiased you. I think those guys were better. You 433 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 3: were better than some of the guys today. Who's the 434 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: top defensive shortstop in today's game? Is there anyone that 435 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 3: pops into your head here that you watch that kind 436 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 3: of reminds you of the guys that you play with 437 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 3: and yourself. 438 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 4: Well, I really love watching the guy from Detroit have 439 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 4: it bias. I think he makes on an amazing place 440 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 4: when he played the position. He can play everything around 441 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 4: the infield, but he makes an amazing place in there. 442 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 4: I like Lindor. Also with the Mets, there is a 443 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 4: guy that came from Cleveland, and I also watch him 444 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 4: for a lot of games. Tria Turner is a great 445 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 4: short stop. It's just a pleasure to watch that guy 446 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 4: taking round balls, playing the game the right way. And 447 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 4: I think the other guy is the guy from Pittsburgh. 448 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 4: I forgot his name right now, but he seems to 449 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 4: be a pretty good short stop. And wow, there is 450 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 4: a lot of talent in the Big League nowadays. Every 451 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 4: time you watch a game, you see a great prospect 452 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 4: that came up that you didn't have any idea they can, 453 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 4: no tools they have. But really enjoying watching the game nowadays. 454 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, who taught you? Did you teach yourself how 455 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: to play short stuff that well? 456 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: Or did Was it a coach? Was it somebody another player? 457 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: How did you learn to be so smooth at shortstop 458 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: when you were playing? 459 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 4: I think it was a combination. You know. My dad 460 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 4: was a big fan of the game. Every time that 461 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 4: I was playing in little league games, he kind of 462 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: correct me things that he see that I was doing wrong. 463 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 4: And also the coaches that I have when my little 464 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 4: league teams were pretty good. I like to listen a lot, 465 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 4: I like to take a lot of advices, and I 466 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 4: think that's when I get to single a double A. 467 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 4: I got a lot of success on fielding the ball 468 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 4: making the plays. I felt very confident about all the 469 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 4: plays that I was making and what That's what it 470 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 4: was the key for me. 471 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: Now I understand, Omar, you're going to be in Miami 472 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 3: coming up here soon, you know, next week. I believe 473 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 3: it is to honor Miguel Cabrera, who you obviously know 474 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: very well. 475 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: Tell me, tell me about that that event. 476 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 3: And yeah, you're gonna be at a Marlins game there 477 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 3: with the Tigers, and tell me about that. 478 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's coming off. In July twenty ninth, there is 479 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 4: a retirement party or a day for all the Venezuelan 480 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 4: people that live in the Miami area. And obviously it's 481 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 4: gonna be in honor of Miguel Cabrera, one of the 482 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 4: best baseball players that has been from my conte from Venezuela. 483 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 4: And I think everybody should go there and honor this 484 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 4: guy because it's the career that he has. I don't 485 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 4: think that you can see that very often. This guy 486 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 4: is a master with the bat. He's a Triple Crown winner, 487 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 4: and he was really the guy that everybody follow and 488 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 4: when still following, and these young guys like to talk 489 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 4: about great hitters and always Megeret Carbrea came up, so 490 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 4: it is an honor for me to be there and 491 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 4: obviously inviting all my fellow teammates and friends to go 492 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 4: and support Miguel on that day. 493 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 3: What is it like, Omar, when you go back to 494 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 3: Venezuela there with you the career you had and they 495 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 3: love baseball and whatnot. 496 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: They roll out the red carpet when you go back there. 497 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 4: What's what's it like? It's crazy, man, It's crazy. You 498 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 4: can't even go to the bathroom because they take it 499 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 4: as an excuse and they follow you around and they 500 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 4: want a picture with you anywhere, and you know, it's 501 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 4: just part of part of the game. And I love 502 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 4: it because they recognize you all the time and they 503 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 4: love talking about baseball. It is an amazing man, It's 504 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 4: a great place to be. 505 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: You're like a rock star there, right, I mean everyone 506 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: loves you. It's amazing. 507 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, we are. We are the Mick Jagger in the street. 508 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: Exactly exactly all right, So why don't we get out 509 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 3: on this the hall of fame? You had, longevity, defense, 510 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: the sacrifice. Can you make a pitch to anyone that 511 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 3: might hear this, who's a QUASEI? Hall of Fame voter, there, 512 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 3: can you make your pitch for the Baseball Hall of Fame? 513 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 3: Why should you be in? 514 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. I don't know if I can 515 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 4: make a pitch, but I tell you this, I played 516 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 4: the game with a lot of respect. I played the 517 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 4: game for a long time because of a reason. I 518 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 4: was a good teammates to everybody. I like to spread 519 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 4: the words or good baseball, how to play the game 520 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 4: the right way. And I think that I have enough 521 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 4: numbers to compete with the guys that are there right now. 522 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 4: Obviously it's not up to me anymore. I did all 523 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 4: everything that I could, and I hope the voters can 524 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 4: take a look at the numbers and say, Wow, this 525 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 4: guy really have a great career. I think he deserved 526 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 4: to be in the Hall of Fame. 527 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 3: But you're in the Cleveland Indian slash Guardians Hall of Fame, 528 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: are you? You've got to be in some other I mean, 529 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: he probably picked up a bunch of awards, right, So 530 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 3: it's the Baseball Hall of Fame is great, But you've 531 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 3: picked up a number of honors. 532 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 4: Right, Omar, Yeah, But I think the Hall of Fame 533 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 4: of Baseball in Cooperstown is a cream of the cream. 534 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 4: That's where all the best players are. And I think 535 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 4: that you know, when you play the game of baseball, 536 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 4: you want to be on the top. You want to 537 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 4: be with the best, and I think it is a 538 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 4: great place to be. And I have the opportunity. I'm 539 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 4: still there and I think I, of course I want 540 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 4: to be there absolutely right. 541 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: Well, hopefully hopefully you'll get it. 542 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 3: We thank you every time anything else you want to 543 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: promote Omar, anything got coming up here people should know about. 544 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 4: Well, we talk a little bit about everything. So thank 545 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 4: you for the opportunity. We're going to be the twenty ninth, 546 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 4: July twenty ninth in the Marlins Park in Miami, and 547 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 4: thank you for talking to me, and hopefully we can 548 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 4: speak some more later on. 549 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely, thank you, Omar. Having a wonderful day. 550 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 4: Thanks Omar, Thank you sir very much.