WEBVTT - Trump’s Hepatitis Vaccine Lies 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:08.880 Also media welcome. It could happen here a podcast beset 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:12.079 by horrors of such magnitude that sometimes you have to 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:14.240 go back to a thing that you just talked about 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:16.640 because there were more horrors in it that you didn't 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:18.439 have time to cover the first time you went to 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:20.360 the horror. Sorry, the first two times you went through 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:24.400 the horrors and with me to talk about the horrors. 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:28.360 Is doctor kave Hoda, who is a doctor? I guess, 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.800 as you probably could have guessed from the title. You know, 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:35.520 I scripted this out very poorly. Uh, this is great, 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.600 You're doing great, Keep going, I say, scripted this out. 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:40.199 Literally. 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.920 The only part of this introduction that was in my 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.479 notes was cave Hoda, doctor and host of House of 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:48.800 Pod and friend of the show, which was not in 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:49.360 my notes either. 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:53.040 But that's right, friend. The energy is chaotic today. Friend, 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.800 most importantly, yeah, it has to be. That is the 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:58.639 normal response to what is happening in this world. If 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.240 we don't embrace a little chaos, and we will lose 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:01.720 our minds. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:03.880 So I am. I am loving how this is going 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:04.280 so far. 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:08.080 I am so glad because there is so much chaos. 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.640 One of the chaos things that we have been tracking, 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.760 and that you spend a hideous amount of time tracking 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:18.559 too much on your share too much. Yes, it's not good, 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.240 it's very bad. Please stop doing this stuff so we 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.480 can all go back to doing normal things in our lives. 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:27.400 I would love to just do more fart jokes and 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:33.360 episodes on poop, but people in power keep saying and 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:38.280 doing terrible things. You have crazy, terrible things that make 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.920 me feel like I'm losing my mind. So I have 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:43.959 to keep doing this from ultards one because someone's got 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:48.520 to talk about it. Two, it's sort of therapy for me, 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:52.120 Like if I just internalize this, I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:55.320 be a miserable person. So thanks, thanks for having me on. 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:57.800 Yeah, I'm excited to talk to you about well. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:01.440 Okay, see this Literally every single time I do an episode, 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:03.640 it's like, I'm really excited to talk to you. And also, 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:05.680 Jesus Christ, I wish we did not to talk about this. 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:12.320 That's how everyone feels. That's that's when they see me. Yeah, 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:16.320 it's terrible, God, really, truly, we got to stop meeting 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:16.600 like this. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.799 One day. We'll do a find episode one day and. 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:21.440 I swear to God. 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.760 Okay, but the thing that I've been talking about, that 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:27.600 we've both been covering is basically the annihilation of the 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:32.240 entire US medical establishment at the federal level is being 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:36.600 systematically dismantled. And one of the ways that's being sematically 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.320 dismantled is that a bunch of people have been put 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:44.280 in charge of it who are I mean, two years ago, 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:49.920 were fringe anti vaccine cranks and are now running like 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:55.920 the most sophisticated like public health institutions that have ever existed. 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:57.040 Yeah. 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:01.240 As a producer extraordinaire, so lichtrom In once said, you 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.480 can't put a hater in charge of the thing that 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.960 they hate the most, and that is what has happened, 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:11.560 completely and fully, almost at every step of this government, 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.920 they find the person that hates it the most and 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:16.360 they put that person in. 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:17.480 Yeah. 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.079 And you know, one of the big sort of I 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:21.799 don't know if turning points is the right word, but 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:23.720 one of the major events we've been covering from this 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:31.200 was the announcement by Rfkgnior and Trump that they had 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:36.680 found what causes autism and also ADHD too, which I 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.360 got very little coverage. I think I said this last 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.160 time I talked about this. It was very baffling. But 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.520 there's just there was so much in that whole thing 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.720 that I think a lot of the stuff kind of 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.480 fell through the cracks inside of like, well, there was 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.520 a lot, there was a lot to digest the so much. 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.600 There's so much, and so I guess I want to 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.600 we wanted to talk about mostly the hepatitis B thing, 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:03.440 but also just sort of the broader anti VAXX stuff 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:08.440 that was in this before we get into I don't know, 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:12.480 like the weirder, more boutique anti vax stuff, which is 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.560 like the anti hepatitis B vagcazine stuff, a thing that 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:20.640 I didn't realize people were against children getting until like now, 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.960 and like I follow these things decently closely. 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.640 Yeah, let's start a little bit with. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.800 Like, let's let's ease the audience into this by going 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:35.080 back to the classics, the greatest hits. We didn't really 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:38.800 have one hit, the one hit of the anti vaccine movement, 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:42.800 which was Trump's stuff about separating the MMR vaccine. 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:45.080 Yeah. 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.960 So yeah, recently during that press conference where he really 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:53.799 threw tail and all under the bus. He also really 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.840 it was weird because there's no new evidence. I want 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:58.560 to make that clear. There was no new evidence that 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:03.000 they presented about vaccine. But Trump actually really harped on 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:08.360 vaccines and his thoughts, his medical opinion, and his advice 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:09.359 on how. 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.279 To manage vaccines. It's truly bizarre. 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.800 Never seen a president say or do those sorts of things. 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:19.000 But one of the things he mentioned was the MMR vaccine, 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:22.480 the measles, mumps, rubella, and he said that it should 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:27.920 be split into three separate shots, again medically unfounded. It really, 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.880 as you have alluded to, echoes these long debunked claims, 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:37.880 these Wakefield like claims, starting from back in nineteen ninety eight. Again, 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:43.400 Wakefield was the disgraced author of that vaccine study that 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.200 tied it to autism, lost his medical license for that. 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.839 But that has persisted and carried on, and the seeds 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.840 of that are still growing terrible, terrible plants in trees today, 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.120 and one of them was this fruit of Trump saying 0:05:56.120 --> 0:06:00.320 we should break up the MMR vaccine. So to say 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.479 it up front, one, there's no reason to do that. 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:07.240 There's no reason that shows improved safety. There's no credible 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.960 evidence to suggest that at least, and more importantly, the 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:14.120 more you split these things up, the more likely you're 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:17.440 gonna end up missing doses. That is like a known fact. 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.760 If you delay vaccines, if you split them up more 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.400 than they need to be, there is a much greater 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.760 chance you will miss that. In case this is not clear, 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.360 measles is bad. It is one of the most contagious 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:34.680 viruses out there, and lower vaccination rates quickly lead to outbreaks, 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.960 as we're already starting to see, and when there's already 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:41.159 some hesitancy in the community, pushing it like this is 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.039 a terrible thing. So even though that was a throwaway 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.840 statement from the President of the United States, it could 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.680 have serious repercussions. 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.000 And it's very concerning. 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:53.119 And I've also I have committed myself every single time 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.720 this comes up that the Wakefield study, which is where 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.800 this whole separate data war thing like came up a 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.640 it's not even a conclusion that even even if you 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:07.000 take his completely fake premise that he made up, yeah, 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.120 it doesn't actually follow that you should split the vaccines up, right, 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:12.960 It's baffling. But the second thing is the reason he 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:14.600 wanted to split the vaccines up was that he was 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:18.640 trying to sell his own vaccines. Correct, He was just 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.920 trying to sell his own vaccin I it makes me 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.040 insane every single time this has talked about, because this 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:25.720 whole thing is sabetically. 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.360 It's literally an industrial complex. It's like the end vaccine 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.000 industrial complex. They're all trying to sell you something. That's 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:31.760 the whole thing. 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:36.600 I was watching Trump give this talk this press conference, 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.720 and I said, I think I said this on another 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:44.360 show here on this channel. I started to disassociate. I'm like, yeah, 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.000 this can't be real life. I am I dreaming is this? 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.360 It felt like I was having an out of body experience. 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:51.960 It did not feel real to me. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.960 To be fully transparent, I did not make it through 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:55.760 that press conference. 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:56.640 Watching it on video. 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.280 About like four minutes in, I was like, fuck this, 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:02.280 I'm going to read the transcript. So I'm just working 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.920 off the transcript because I was like, I can't. 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:06.080 It was tough. I can't do this. 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:08.880 So on my podcast, The House of Pod you should 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:13.920 all listen to it, I played a clip from Trump 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.520 talking about tail and all and another clip of him 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:21.200 talking about heptis B and when you listen to it. 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.880 When I listened back to it as I was editing it, 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:27.320 it sounded like I edited his clips to make him 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:28.480 sound crazy. 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:29.280 I did not. 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.440 I just took straight from what he says, and it 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.160 just the way he was talking, it's hard to listen to. 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.360 I mean, it's hard to read too, but the way 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.439 he talks, it's so disjointed and he just goes from 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.760 one thought to the next. Hey, does this weave thing 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.000 that he thinks is so clever, But it's just lost. 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:47.320 The threads are never brought back together. It's just an unraveled, 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.880 terrible rug of lies. And that is that is why 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.920 it's so hard to listen to him. I totally understand. 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.400 Yeah, well, and this has also been you know, one 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.040 of the things that most of the media has done 0:08:58.080 --> 0:08:59.800 is that you know, in order to be able to 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:03.760 like play a listenable clip on air, right, and also 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.880 in sort of innservative power, they edit the clips to 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:11.839 make him sound like a normal human being. Right, So 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:13.920 the version of it that people are seeing is not 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.679 the version where he's just sort of completely ranting incoherently 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.280 and like, you know, you just see these clips. But 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.000 then also because they're because they're they're editing it down 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:23.640 progressively more and more like. 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:24.520 Just more. 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:30.000 Stuff more, just like information content gets lost every time, 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.719 which is the problem because there's just like so much. 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:38.600 The fire hose in this of nonsense. Yeah, title my 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:42.479 first albums incredible, incredible. 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:47.160 Oh god, Okay, so you know what, we're going to 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:48.679 a second fire hose of nonsense. 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.840 This is slightly really to be doing this, but fuck. 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.680 It, it's chaos week. We're doing it. Do you know 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.360 what else is a fire hose of nonsense? Oh well, 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:58.720 I wouldn't say it's nonsense. I would say it's very important. 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.920 And they's so it's very very important. I believe in. 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.280 I don't end up just kidding. I'm assuming ads and services. Yeah, 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:06.280 this is the practice. 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:15.200 Services that support this podcast. 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:21.880 We are back. 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:26.920 So it makes the torrent of you know, the MMR stuff, 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:28.880 which also I do want to say, very briefly, is 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:32.400 sort of a baffling thing to be talking about in 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:33.480 a thing where you're. 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.880 Not blaming the vaccines for autism. 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.800 You're blaming tail at all, but then you're still also 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.199 mad at the vaccine. It's very weird. Yeah, I have 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:42.040 thoughts about that. 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:42.679 You know. 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.160 I felt like what Trump was doing with that by 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.720 bringing up the vaccine stuff was I felt he was 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:54.120 trying to console RFK Junior in a way. I felt 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.120 like he was like, Okay, hey, we're moving away from 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:59.000 the vaccine stuff to focus on this tile law stuff. 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:02.480 But I know how much you love the vaccine stuff, AREFK, 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:04.000 So let's. 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:04.440 Talk about that. 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.440 So I felt like he was just throwing that out 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.680 there to play k RFK Junior. 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.520 That was my guess. But I don't know how. 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:15.439 To read sociopaths very well, so. 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.000 This could also just be like what comes into his 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.400 mind when he thinks about medicine. 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:23.360 Right, so you know, oh yeah, again, weird to me 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:26.240 that this president was giving medical advice. I mean, he 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:30.000 was making statements, do not take timely said that multiple 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:33.559 times he talked about breaking up the hepatitis B vaccine, 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:35.719 changing the heptides B vaccine, that the times of it, 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.560 which I think we're going to talk about because that 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:41.839 is very important to me, and things that doctors would 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.200 have a little pause to say so strongly, and even 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.760 the people whose paper he's citing would say, oh, slow 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:53.400 down a little bit with that. You know, it's very important. 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:56.480 I think it's super impactful, and you're right, it's slipping 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.040 under the radar. So I would love to talk about 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:02.240 the hepatitis B stuff. Yeah, let's do this, so I'll 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.280 give a little background for your listeners who don't know me. 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:10.160 I am a gastroentrologist and hepatologist that's liver, not herpetologists, 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.920 which is study of snakes, which sometimes people think online. 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.559 I am a doctor that looks at the liver, and 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:20.960 hepatitis B has an important place in my heart. It's 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:24.960 a disease that can be incredibly devastating. It's incredibly common, 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:29.480 it has so many complications, It has such long term 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:32.640 ramifications on someone's life if they have it, so many 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.360 things they have to consider, do follow up, so many 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:37.319 possible things that can happen with it. And the thing 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.839 about it is, we have a vaccine for it that 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:46.520 is very safe and super efficacious and works really well, 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:51.240 and when we use it, it works amazing. In Trump during 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:55.560 this conference, through that a couple of passing shots as 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.400 he was doing this whole rant about tile mall etc. 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:02.320 And those passing sts can have a huge impact on 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.400 uptake in this country. I think it really needs to 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.480 be discussed. So I'll stop there. I'll let you see 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.719 what questions you have for me hepatites because I could 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:11.800 talk about hepatitiz B for a long time. 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.360 Yeah, okay, let's let's let's go back to like the 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:18.240 very basic. How would you explain hepatitis B to our 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.839 dear listener who knows many things, but what hepatitis B 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:22.000 is is not one of them. 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:28.520 Yes, So, hepatitis just means inflammation of the liver. Anything 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.719 with itis means inflammation. And there are different ways of 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:37.120 getting hepatitis or inflammation of the liver. They range from alcohol, medications, 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:42.360 autoimmune problems to viral things. And there are viral things 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:48.120 that can cause bad hepatitis affect the liver, primarily hepatitis A, B, C. 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:52.360 You've heard of some of these hepatides, and hepatitis B 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.600 is a very common one in the world. It's about 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.679 two billion people in the world have either had it 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:03.439 or presently have it. About eight hundred and eighty thousand 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:07.960 people in the US alone have chronic hepatitis B, but 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.040 if you actually look at studies that include more immigrant populations, 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.080 that number can go up to about two point two million. 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:18.840 It is something that can when you get it at 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:22.080 an early age, when you're young and you're a baby 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:25.080 or an infant, you're young and your immune system is 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:28.840 not super robust yet. It's very likely, about ninety percent 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.240 or more that if you are exposed to it, you'll 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:35.360 get chronic infection from it. If you get it when 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.080 you're older, it's a little different. You can have a 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:42.119 pretty strong reaction to it. You'll get really sick, potentially 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.960 sometimes to the point where the liver fails, but most 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.880 people are when they're older able to clear it. They're 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.600 going to eventually get rid of the virus to point 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.760 where the liver is fine and it manages, but it 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.520 lives in the liver indefinitely. Once you get the hepatitis B, 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.480 there's a very good chance you will have it forever. 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.320 Whether or not it's causing you problems is another thing. 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:04.880 A lot of people can live with it not have 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.240 any problems, but a lot of people will get it 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.840 and they will be very sick in the beginning. And 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.280 when you get it as an infant, you have a 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.680 very good chance of having it for the rest of 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:19.880 your life. And that can be a major problem because 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.280 like all viruses that go into the liver like this, 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:28.200 all these viral hepatides, what can happen is it can 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.400 cause scarring, which you might have heard of when it's 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:35.160 really bad, called cirrhosis. When that happens, the liver can 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:39.480 stop working. You can get cancer of the liver. You 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:43.800 can get big blood vessels in your esophagus called esophageal varses, 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:47.520 and vomited blood. You can get a lot of bad 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:52.600 things that happen. Now, what makes heptizes be particularly insidious, 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.080 It makes it a little bit even my opinion, more 0:15:55.160 --> 0:16:00.360 dangerous than a lot of other viral hepatides is that 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:04.680 you don't always have to go through these phases to 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:06.760 get to the really bad part. Like when you have 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:10.120 hepatitis C, for example, you get bad scarring over a 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:14.119 long time that can cause that cirrhosis, and that cirrhosis 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:18.120 can lead to cancer. But since hepatitis B is a 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:22.240 DNA virus, that DNA can get into the DNA of 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.680 your liver cells and it can cause cancer without even 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:31.000 having to go through those steps of cirrhosis. That's obviously terrible, 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:33.440 and that can happen to young people, and I've seen 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.040 it and it's awful. So I'm saying all these terrible 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:40.200 things about hepatitis B because it's one of these things 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:43.040 that does not need to be I didn't mean to 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.320 say that like that. No, I didn't mean to make 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.920 a play on words there, but it doesn't need to 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.960 happen because we have this great vaccine that can manage this, 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:55.920 and when we use this vaccine, it works. In fact, 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.920 in the US, they looked at it between nineteen ninety 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.200 it was introduced in this country like for infants in 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:04.040 nineteen ninety one, and when they looked from nineteen ninety 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.359 to two thousand and four, they saw a ninety four 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:12.119 percent decrease in kids and adolescents who have hepatitis being incredible, 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:16.000 that's amazing, that's really good. Like this is a great 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:19.119 success story. And part of the reason people like Trump 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:23.080 don't recognize that this is an issues because it's done well, 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:27.320 because this vaccine works and it does a good job. Now, 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.040 the other thing to discuss is how it is transmitted, 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.320 because that's a big part of what Trump was saying 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:38.840 during this press conference. Yeah, and he said it's sexually transmitted, 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.280 which is true. That is one of the ways that 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:46.120 you get it, but you also get it from the mother. 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:49.000 The mother when you're having a pregnancy and a delivery, 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:53.719 it's a messy, bloody process and that is a huge 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:57.080 risk factor for the infant getting hepatized B from the mother. 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.480 There's also household things that can happen. You know, people 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:04.440 share razors, that's a risk factor, toothbrushes, small things, bites 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.720 at daycare centers. All these things are small risks. They're 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:13.200 not as common as sex or the childbirth ways of transmission, 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:17.800 but there are other modes of transmission for getting hepatitis B, 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.480 not just sex like Trump was saying. So I think 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:25.440 that's super important to be clear that. I think that 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.640 is one of the major things he said that was wrong. 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:29.000 He said a lot of things are wrong, but that's 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.120 probably the biggest easiest one to point out. 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:33.879 Yeah, And I think it also was interesting because that 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:35.320 was one of the things that got followed up on 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:37.320 by reporters. But the reporter was like, well, you can 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:41.679 also get it from like reusing needles, which like yeah, 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.960 but like not not mentioning the whole. You can get 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:48.440 it from being born, a thing that everyone has to do. Statistically, 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:52.920 this is true. The statistics bear that out. 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:53.520 That is true. 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:58.280 Yeah, but percent rate of being born in order to exist. 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:00.880 That's exactly exact, exactly right. 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:04.480 You know why, I realized why Trump says this, This 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:06.960 is the realization I came to he doesn't even think 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.920 about this as a possible mode of transmission. If you've 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.560 ever seen a delivery, I don't know if you have mia, 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:16.920 but if you've ever seen someone give birth, whether it's natural, 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:21.080 vaginal or cesarean or whatever, whatever method, there's a lot 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:25.760 of fluids, blood, mucus. There's a lot of fluids happening 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:29.800 during this time exchange between mother and baby. And if 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:33.040 you saw that, I think you'd be like, oh, well, yeah, 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:35.280 that makes sense that you would get it that way. 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:36.919 If you do get it through sex, why couldn't you 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.880 get it through that? You know, if you could get 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:42.600 it by putting a penis into a vagina, for example, 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:44.720 why couldn't you get it from being birth from one? 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.359 So you would you would see that, you would It 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:50.919 would make sense to you inherently and automatically. My guess 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:54.480 is that Trump has not seen any of his kids delivered. 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:56.560 That that would not surprise me. 0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:00.119 I mean, if he was in a nearby room, I 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:04.080 would be impressed in Edwa cast aspersions on our president. 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.600 I don't know. Maybe he was there, you know, cutting 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:08.480 the umbilical corridor. I don't know, but I get the 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:10.560 sense he was not, and I feel like that's why 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.080 in his mind he doesn't even register it. 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:15.440 And then then the other thing that makes that's weird 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.320 about this is he's like, Oh, it's just me. 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.000 I say that they get the shot at the age 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:23.199 of twelve because it's sexually transmitted, And that makes me 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:26.480 wonder And I'm surprised no one's brought this up. Why 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:29.080 does he think that's okay? Then does he think that 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:30.879 kids are having sex at the age of twelve and 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:32.520 that's okay? 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.400 Why did why did twelve become the number for him? 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:40.480 It's so weird and I don't know that's truly one 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:46.040 of the There is something just deeply evil going on 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.800 in his mind, but I have no idea what it is, 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:51.480 and I can't follow the path of logic because I'm 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:56.159 not like a billionaire who was born in like the 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:57.360 fifties or whatever. 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:03.040 I don't know that that guy has seen. 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.879 That guy has gotten brain word from things that like 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:08.359 don't exist anymore. 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:10.840 No, he was born in the forties. 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:14.400 Sorry, my apologies for thinking he was born a full 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.560 decade later than he actually was. 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:21.359 Good lord, Yeah, I mean I think the results are 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:21.920 still the same. 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:24.080 Yeah, but I mean it's like, you know, there's just 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:26.840 like there's prejudices and weird stuff that he picked up 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:30.440