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Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, Hey everybody, It's Monday, August twenty first, twenty

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we're ending

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Speaker 2: our hold out, not that we were ever in one

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Speaker 2: in the first place. Its me, your man named g

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Speaker 2: Marcus Grant, joined by Michael F. Florio out there in

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Speaker 2: the ether Susie producer Suzie I hanging out with us,

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Speaker 2: and we are all in remote locations because Flora we

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Speaker 2: had a heurriquake yesterday. It was like all of the

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Speaker 2: all of the nature. It was like the Avengers of

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Speaker 2: natural disasters teamed up to descend on Los Angeles. I

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Speaker 2: assume everyone is safe and healthy where you are, and

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Speaker 2: you're part of Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: Though, Yeah, everyone is good here. It wasn't nearly as

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Speaker 3: bad as we were anticipating, at least by me. I'm

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Speaker 3: a little bit more coastal, so that's good. The funniest

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Speaker 3: part about everything, though, to me, was the memes and

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Speaker 3: everything about like the earthquake coming to remind the Californian

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Speaker 3: who the real natural disaster is here? Like that at

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Speaker 3: least brought me some laughter yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I will say, yeah, we are fortunate we were

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Speaker 2: not hit very hard. You know. We got a lot

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Speaker 2: really severe. We certainly at my house had we had

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Speaker 2: over prepared just in case of the worst. Thankfully we

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Speaker 2: did not need it. But I can now say that

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Speaker 2: I have survived my first tropical storm, and that because

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Speaker 2: California being extra as we tend to be, through an

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Speaker 2: earthquake right in the middle of the whole. But you know,

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Speaker 2: I know it was severe and some other places. I

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Speaker 2: hope everybody is safe wherever they are, you know, And

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Speaker 2: I know in other parts of the country they are

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Speaker 2: dealing with extreme weather of other kinds, heat and that

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Speaker 2: sort of thing. So everybody, wherever you are, stay safe. Man,

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Speaker 2: stay inside, stay safe, make sure you check on your

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Speaker 2: people in every which way. All right. We are continuing

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Speaker 2: our division previews today. It is the AFC South, so

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Speaker 2: we go through those fourteen there. But let's get started

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Speaker 2: because we actually have quite a bit of news that

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Speaker 2: has come in since we last spoke to you. Maybe

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Speaker 2: the biggest piece of news that one coming earlier on

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Speaker 2: Monday morning via the Las Vegas Review Journal. Josh Jacobs,

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Speaker 2: according to reports, is expected to end his holdout and

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Speaker 2: report to the Raiders before week one. Now there was

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Speaker 2: no definite timeline, just a before the season opener, so

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Speaker 2: it could be any time within the next few weeks.

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Speaker 2: But Florio, we do know that Josh Jacobs is going

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Speaker 2: to be back. I think we all sort of assumed

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Speaker 2: it was going to happen, we just didn't know when.

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Speaker 2: Now we seem to have a little bit more of

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Speaker 2: a concrete timeline a little bit more so with that

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Speaker 2: being said, is Josh Jacobs back to being a first

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Speaker 2: round pick.

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Speaker 3: I like him more in the second round because again,

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Speaker 3: I think that the receivers dry up so fast in

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Speaker 3: the first round that I'd rather wait and get whichever

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Speaker 3: one of the top running backs falls to me in

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Speaker 3: round two. That being said, if you want to take

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Speaker 3: percent in the possibilities. Like to me, I think there's

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Speaker 3: a clear top nine elite running backs, and that group

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Speaker 3: to me is Eckler, CMC Bijon, Tony Polar, Nick Chubbs,

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Speaker 3: Saquan Jonathan Taylor, Josh Jacobs, and Derek Henry. I think

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Speaker 3: least one of those nine in round two. So I

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Speaker 3: will take the receiver in round one, but if I

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Speaker 3: I got Jonathan Taylor at the end of the eighth

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Speaker 3: and Josh Jacobs went just before him. So hopefully you

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Speaker 3: that is long gone. He is going to be a

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Speaker 2: I am looking at the Fantasy Football Calculator ADP chart

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Speaker 2: for Josh Jacobs and this just spans the last month,

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Speaker 2: going back to sort of late July, and he went

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Speaker 2: so you obviously whatever has happened hasn't really caught up yet.

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Speaker 2: But I would expect that in the days to come,

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Speaker 2: a lot of people may be drafting on the turn. Look,

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Speaker 2: if you're sitting in that twelfth spot in your league,

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Speaker 2: what a ceed lamb Josh Jacobs one two punch on

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Speaker 2: So so there we go. We have a little bit

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Speaker 2: for the Raiders in DC, the Washington Commanders have named

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Speaker 2: Sam Howell they're starting quarterback for the twenty twenty three season.

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Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of excitement about Sam Howe, a

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I have a strong opinion one

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Speaker 2: are you interested in drafting Sam Howell at all?

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Speaker 3: I am, but only in certain formats like in the

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Speaker 3: one quarterback league. If you come away with Sam Hall

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Speaker 3: as your starter, something's gone terribly terrible. But in two

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks super flex leagues, I really think that is where

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Speaker 3: you want to be getting Sam Hall or best ball

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying Sam Hall is going to be one

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Speaker 3: of the worst passers in the I'm saying it's a

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Speaker 3: fantasy asset. I don't know if he will hold on

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Speaker 3: people who think Sam Hall is going to break out.

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Speaker 3: I'm I think he has the potential where he could

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Speaker 3: be much better than we are anticipating. But Jacoby said

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Speaker 3: is one of the best backups in football. So if

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Speaker 3: things get off to a rough start for Sam how

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Speaker 3: I could see them making a change there because I

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Speaker 3: for as many games as he starts, he is going

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Speaker 3: to be a value in fantasy. So if you have

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Speaker 3: him in his two quarterback leagues, you can start him,

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Speaker 3: play him in DFS something like that. In his lone

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Speaker 3: eight hundred and twenty eight yards and eleven touchdowns. I

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Speaker 3: But I think as long as he's a starter, he'll

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Speaker 3: probably be I think safely will be a top twenty

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Speaker 2: Yeah. See, I think I think maybe that's it. And

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Speaker 2: I look at that, I'm kind of like, eh, all right, fine,

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Speaker 2: keeps him afloat in this thing. You're right. If you

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Speaker 2: you know, I think there's some value to him as

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Speaker 2: a second quarterback. And maybe that's where the excitement is

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Speaker 2: coming from, because I can't wrap my head around, you know,

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Speaker 2: fired up about Sam Howell as even as a rotational

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Speaker 2: guy in a one quarterback league. I don't I think

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Speaker 2: there are better options out there before you get to

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Speaker 2: Sam Howell. But what I do think is a good

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Speaker 2: thing about Howell is I just want to see what

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Speaker 2: he can be in comparison to Jacoby Brissett in terms

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Speaker 2: of actual football. Brissett, we know, is a nice, safe option.

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Speaker 2: He's a guy who can you know he's not going

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Speaker 2: to screw it up. He can just keep your team

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Speaker 2: on track. He's not going to blow it in a

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Speaker 2: also not going to give us a lot in fantasy

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Speaker 2: when it comes to his receivers. Right, We're not going

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Speaker 2: to be super fired up about Terry McLaurin or Jahan Dotson,

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Speaker 2: et cetera with Jacoby Brissett. So I don't does it

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Speaker 2: make you feel better about the pass catchers knowing that

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Speaker 2: it's Sam Howe versus Brissett.

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Speaker 3: I think the ceiling is higher, but I think the

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Speaker 3: range of outcomes is wider because, like you said, we

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Speaker 3: kind of know what Jacoby Brissett is. We are figuring

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Speaker 3: out as we go what we have in Sam Howe,

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Speaker 3: and we could watch his college tape and his preseason

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Speaker 3: do it, you know, when games matter over the course

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Speaker 3: of the NFL season, we have a lot more that

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Speaker 3: we can judge to Kobe Brissett based on. But that's

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Speaker 3: partially why I'm so in on Terry McLaurin this year.

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Speaker 3: And I know everyone else loves Dotson and I like

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Speaker 3: not forget about Terry McLaurin because he's going as like

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Speaker 3: his absolute floor right now. You look at what he's

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Speaker 3: been in his career with and without Carson Wentz, Like

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Speaker 3: Carson Wentz was dragging him down. Last year when he

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Speaker 3: he always is. So I think Howe gives him there's

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Speaker 3: always upside in the unknown. But if things crash and

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Speaker 3: burn for Hal, I think we get Jacobe Brissett, who

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Speaker 3: last year was able to get Amari Cooper back to

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Speaker 3: being a low end wide receiver one just because he

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Speaker 3: Terry mclaurin's I think Dotson has breakout upside, but as

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Speaker 3: be a little bit more inconsistent than Terry will be.

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Speaker 2: I think is Terry McLaurin reaching that point of wide

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Speaker 2: receivers we just take for granted. You know, maybe that's

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Speaker 2: why the ADP is where it is. I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: his last three seasons, and the numbers are all pretty similar. Right,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty eleven hundred yards, four touchdowns, twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: ten fifty and five touchdowns. Last year almost twelve hundred

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Speaker 2: consistent from year to year, and I think because of

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Speaker 2: I think everybody just looks at Terry Mcorner's like, all right, fine,

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Speaker 2: we know what we're gonna get. We're gonna draft him here,

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Speaker 2: and then we all, you know, we're the that old

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Speaker 2: meme of the guy walking with his girlfriend and turning

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Speaker 2: and looking at the other girl, like, you know, Jahan

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Speaker 2: Dotson is the other girl in the red dress walking by,

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Speaker 2: and Terry mclaurin's the one with like the incredulous look

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Speaker 2: right here. I think that's where we are with Commander's

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Speaker 2: receivers at this point. Titans wide receiver Traylon Burks suffered

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Speaker 2: an LCL spring will miss multiple weeks. It's better news

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Speaker 2: that I think a lot of people anticipated when he

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Speaker 2: first went down, everybody saw it was a knee injury,

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Speaker 2: not as bad possibly as it could have been. How

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Speaker 2: much should this or will this affect his ADP?

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Speaker 2: us with the Houston Texans. Last year, their top fantasy

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Speaker 2: First of let's start to them more or less, twelve

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Speaker 2: It's funny because I think we're starting to put all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's an appropriate value for Devin Singletary.

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Speaker 3: most of the summer. But actually today I have lowered him.

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Speaker 3: I boosted both of the rookies ahead of him, so

430
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Speaker 3: Dalton Kincaid and Sam Laporta. Dalon Schultz isn't standing out

431
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Speaker 3: in the preseason, and from what it sounds like, he's

432
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Speaker 3: one of the targets not like the top target. I

433
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Speaker 3: thought he could be the top like safety blanket for

434
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Speaker 3: the young CJ. Stroud, but they have a lot of

435
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Speaker 3: receivers there as well. So to me, Schultz is more

436
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Speaker 3: of a floor play and someone that I would like

437
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Speaker 3: to take is like my tight end twelve or thirteen.

438
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Speaker 3: So that I think you pair him with one of

439
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Speaker 3: the young rookies like that is an approach that makes

440
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Speaker 3: sense to me because you still get the upside swing

441
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Speaker 3: in a Kinkaid or Laporta, and then if things go

442
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Speaker 3: wrong for them, you have a tight end that you

443
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Speaker 3: at least feel like you could throw in and start

444
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Speaker 3: in Dalton in Dalton Schultz.

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Speaker 2: I just I haven't been able to wrap my arms,

446
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Speaker 2: my head and my brain and my heart and all

447
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Speaker 2: of that around Dalton Schultz this year, just because I

448
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 2: think where you're getting him, first of all, you're sort

449
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Speaker 2: of getting him in the kind of that mid to

450
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Speaker 2: late range. I'm trying to look right now, he's going,

451
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Speaker 2: say tenth round. I think we know that the floor

452
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: for him is pretty safe, although it's pretty low, and

453
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Speaker 2: I feel like the ceiling is also fairly low for him.

454
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Speaker 2: So like having Dalton Schultz means you're getting a lot

455
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Speaker 2: of six point weeks, which is fine. I would rather

456
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Speaker 2: take the swing at that. If I'm waiting till that

457
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Speaker 2: range to draft a tight end, I would rather go

458
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Speaker 2: for a guy that I think has upside. I think

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Speaker 2: Tyler Higbee has better upside this year. I think Dalton Kincaid,

460
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Speaker 2: Sam Laporta. These are all guys that are going around

461
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Speaker 2: the same time or later. I think there's better upside there.

462
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Speaker 2: So I just I think Dalton Schultz is fine. He's

463
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Speaker 2: you know, to quote our friend and producer Hythian Klane,

464
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Speaker 2: he's oatmeal, right. It's just it's fine. I would rather

465
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Speaker 2: take a shot at some chili kills a little bit

466
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Speaker 2: later and see if maybe those turn out to be

467
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Speaker 2: a little bit spicier than what I wanted. So'm I

468
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Speaker 2: think I'm out on Dalton Schultz. Indianapolis Colts next up here.

469
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Speaker 2: They're top Fantasy score from last year. Matt Ryan one

470
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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty eight point three points. He was the

471
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Speaker 2: QB twenty six. Jonathan Taylor, no surprise, the top running back,

472
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Speaker 2: but injuries sort of limited him last year. Fewer than

473
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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty Fantasy points for him. He was

474
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Speaker 2: the RB thirty three, Michael Pittman your top receiver, just

475
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Speaker 2: over two hundred and fifteen points there he was wide

476
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Speaker 2: receiver twenty Jelannie Woods your top tight end. This is

477
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Speaker 2: another team I had to look up who the tight

478
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Speaker 2: end was last year because I'm like, I have no

479
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Speaker 2: idea what Colts tight end. We were interested in Jeolanny

480
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Speaker 2: Woods tight end thirty five. The offseason they lost Matt Ryan,

481
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Speaker 2: Nick Foles, Paris Campbell. They did add in free agency

482
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Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew, Isaiah McKenzie, and Matt Gay. I wouldn't normally

483
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Speaker 2: mention a kicker, but they gave him a lot of money,

484
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Speaker 2: expecting him to do big things with his foot there.

485
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Speaker 2: In the draft, of course, they draft Anthony Richardson. They

486
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Speaker 2: go out and get wide receiver Josh Downs and running

487
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Speaker 2: back Evan Hall first off the board. Jonathan Taylor, who

488
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 2: right now has an ADP of three dot one. So

489
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Speaker 2: it feels like every week or so, it's worth kind

490
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Speaker 2: of taking a heat check on Jonathan Taylor. He says

491
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Speaker 2: he still wants to be traded. He still seems like

492
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Speaker 2: he's unhappy. He's been away from the team with excused absences.

493
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 2: Apparently he has some family issues going on away from

494
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: the facility, so we haven't seen him really in action.

495
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 2: He hasn't really been working out with the team, but

496
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Speaker 2: signs point to him being there in Week one. How

497
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Speaker 2: are we feeling about him right now?

498
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Speaker 3: I am He's going with them to the joint practice

499
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Speaker 3: with the Eagles, which tells me that as unhappy as

500
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Speaker 3: he is, I mean, all the signs have kind of

501
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Speaker 3: we've been reading this says maybe he wants to hold

502
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Speaker 3: out and everything, but he doesn't have the leverage in

503
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Speaker 3: this situation. So I am anticipating him being there and

504
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 3: around in Week one. I put him in that top

505
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 3: nine running backs that I have right now. I have

506
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Speaker 3: him right now currently ranked as my RB seven. But

507
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Speaker 3: I'd be lying if I didn't tell you that. Like,

508
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: there's five running backs that I am struggling with how

509
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Speaker 3: the order that I want to place them in? And

510
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs and Jonathan Taylor are two of those five

511
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: that we're talking about today. But like he fell to

512
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Speaker 3: me in the third round of a draft the other

513
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Speaker 3: day that I was able to start Cooper Cup, Garrett Wilson,

514
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Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor, Like I will take that start all day long.

515
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Speaker 3: If people are going to allow you to get it.

516
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Speaker 3: But I don't think that's going to be the case anymore.

517
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Speaker 3: I think Jonathan Taylor is firmly going to be a

518
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Speaker 3: second round pick because I'm anticipating the first round being

519
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 3: all a lot of receivers, the second round being a

520
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 3: lot of running backs. And I have no problem taking

521
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Speaker 3: him with a second round pick.

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Speaker 2: No problem taking him with the second round pick. I'm

523
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Speaker 2: with you. I mean, I think we all believe he's

524
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Speaker 2: going to play understanding his unhappiness, but he's going to

525
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 2: be there. He's not injured. I mean, I know there's

526
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 2: maybe some minor tweaks, but you know, at this point,

527
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Speaker 2: everybody sort of has that, you know, and he's going

528
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Speaker 2: to play hard, He's going to play well. So I think,

529
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Speaker 2: you know, if you're getting him in the second round,

530
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Speaker 2: that's great. If somehow he's still lasting to the third round,

531
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Speaker 2: that also is amazing. But I have no qualms about

532
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Speaker 2: drafting Jonathan Taylor wherever he's going off the board. At

533
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Speaker 2: this point, will the Colts have a top twenty fantasy receiver?

534
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Speaker 2: And I ask it because Michael Pittman last year was

535
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Speaker 2: the wide receiver twenty. You know, it looks like Anthony

536
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Speaker 2: Richardson might be a better passer than anticipated, But we

537
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: still have questions there. You know, kN Pittman or anybody

538
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 2: else in that wide receiver room reached that plateau of

539
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Speaker 2: wide receiver twenty or is that asking too much this year?

540
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Speaker 3: I think it's asking too much. You look at the

541
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Speaker 3: Colts last year, and I understand that, like he because

542
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: the volume had finished as the wide receiver twenty, But

543
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: they threw the ball because they were trailing, like over

544
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: six hundred times, because they were trailing often in games.

545
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Speaker 3: I'm thinking this year they're going to run the ball

546
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Speaker 3: a whole bunch more. Jonathan Taylor was hurt for a

547
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 3: lot of last season, Matt Ryan was a statue. It

548
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 3: got so bad in the running back room that they

549
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 3: had to acquire Zach Moss. I think that this year,

550
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Speaker 3: with Anthony Richardson, they are going to be a lock

551
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Speaker 3: to run the ball a whole lot more. And this

552
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: is something I was talking about this weekend. The Colts

553
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 3: might throw for three thousand pass Like if Anthony Richardson

554
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: finishes with three thousand passing yards this year, I think

555
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: we will say that that was a successful rookie season

556
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: for him. I think he can finish with more than that,

557
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna put it at like thirty two. Thirty

558
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: three hundred is probably the cat. I don't think he's

559
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 3: going to come in and all of a sudden and

560
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 3: be the one of the best dual threat quarterbacks ever

561
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 3: off the jump. I think it is in the range

562
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 3: of his outcome, but I'm not going to bank on it.

563
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: So we could be talking about three thousand passing yards,

564
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 3: and even in a super funneled offense, it's hard to

565
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Speaker 3: get to a thousand when it's that low. So Michael

566
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 3: Pittman Junior, as much as I like him as an

567
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 3: individual talent, you might remember, like last season, I was

568
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 3: hyping him up a lot. I'm out on him. Also

569
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 3: the OC Jim Bob Cooter. When he last ran an offense,

570
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 3: it was built around short, quick passes to the slot

571
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: receiver and the running back. Michael Pittman Junior is a

572
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 3: very different talent. I think he'll have weeks where you

573
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 3: want to use him in fantasy, but as the whole,

574
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be very inconsistent, and I do

575
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: not think he gets top twenty.

576
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that. I think you know,

577
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 2: top twenty five, maybe we can talk about that. I

578
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 2: just don't know that there's gonna be enough passing volume

579
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: to really facilitate that, unless somehow, you know, there's one

580
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: of these guys that just catches a whole lot of touchdowns.

581
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: But even then, I get the sense, when the Colts

582
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: get close, you're gonna see Richardson or Taylor sort of

583
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: handling a lot of that work. I just don't imagine

584
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 2: them throwing the ball a lot around the goal line.

585
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: That it's tough to do, first of all, tough to

586
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: do it successfully. That's why you know you see guys

587
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: like Patrick Mahomes doing it, Aaron Rodgers doing it. You're

588
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: talking about high elite level passers. And no matter what

589
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: you think of Anthony Richardson, I think we all agree

590
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: he's not there yet. So we'll see. I don't think.

591
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: I don't think top twenty is really possible, And I'm

592
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: with you. I don't think I've drafted a lot of

593
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: Michael Pittman so far this season, just because I don't

594
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: know what to expect. I will say this, Pat Doherty

595
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: aka roto Pat on Twitter sort of talked me into

596
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: maybe taking a few late shots at Alec Pierce with

597
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: the idea that we could see more of a vertical

598
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: offense and Anthony Richardson taking some shots downfield and maybe

599
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: a few big chunk plays to Alec Pierce. I'm not

600
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: banking a whole lot on him. I'm telling you, I'm

601
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: still taking him in the very late rounds just to

602
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: see if that could come to fruition. But if it

603
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: goes sideways, I'm totally gonna blame Pat That's all I know.

604
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: I like Pierce too, but definitely, in my opinion, a better.

605
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: Player, absolutely a better in best ball situation there for him.

606
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: Last one for Indianapolis Anthony Richardson right now, round eleven.

607
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: That is sort of the redraft Fantasy Football calculator ADP.

608
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: I know in bestball leagues he's going a lot higher,

609
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: but round eleven that too low for him in my opinion.

610
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: I think it's way too low. I did a draft

611
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 3: over the weekend and it was with other people who

612
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: do this, and he went with the last pick of

613
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: the seventh round, and if he fell back to me,

614
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: I was taking him in round eight. The only reason

615
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: I didn't take it in round seven was because the

616
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: on this site we were drafting on. His ADP was

617
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 3: very low, so I thought I can maybe slip one

618
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: past the goal. That didn't work out for me, but

619
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Speaker 3: I think like seventh, eighth round is where I consider him.

620
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 3: I have him ranked as my QB nine this season going.

621
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: I moved him ahead of Deshaun Watson. I'm toying with

622
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: the idea of moving Daniel Jones ahead of Watson as well.

623
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Speaker 3: But to me, after what I keep saying is like

624
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 3: the top eight that gives you the high floor and

625
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 3: high ceiling that we want. I don't know if there's

626
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: a quarterback who brings more upside than Anthony Richardson because

627
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: he can run for a thousand yards and I think

628
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 3: throw for close to you know, twenty five to three,

629
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: and that doesn't sound like a whole lot of passing yards,

630
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: but that would be a better season than what Justin

631
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 3: Fields had last year, which is when we were calling

632
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: him a cheek code. So I think that he Yeah,

633
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: I round seven or eight is where I would be

634
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: taking him. But if you're in a league, you know,

635
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: like a home league or whatever, I think you could

636
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: wait till rounds nine or ten because a lot of

637
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 3: people are probably going to be thinking I don't want

638
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: to take a rookie quarterback this early, And I.

639
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: Think I think that's sort of the key maybe is

640
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: who you're drafting with, right When you're drafting with folks

641
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: like us who have been Look, man, we've been doing

642
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: drafts of some form probably since February or March, right,

643
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Speaker 2: it's a little bit different. Yeah, we do have problems like, Hi,

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646
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Speaker 2: those of us, you know, who are doing this, we

647
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Speaker 2: probably are drafting a little bit higher for folks in

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649
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650
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651
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Speaker 2: We keep hearing he's raw, he's not a passer. You

652
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653
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654
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Speaker 2: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Next up, it's the Jacksonville Jaguars,

668
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: who had a little bit of an offensive renaissance last year.

669
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Speaker 2: Their top scorer quarterback last season, Trevor Lawrence, was the

670
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Speaker 2: QB eights just over three hundred and three Fantasy points.

671
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: Traves etn You're running back seventeen to five point one.

672
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: Christian Kirk, everybody last at the contract and then all

673
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: he did was go out and give you two hundred

674
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: and forty one fantasy points. Was the wide receiver twelve.

675
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: And Evan Ingram, who a lot of us had given

676
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: up on me I'm one of them. I was the

677
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: tight end five one hundred and seventy six point nine

678
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: fantasy points. The offseason, they lost Marvin Jones and Chris Manhertz.

679
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: They did add de Ernest Johnson through free agency. I

680
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: guess you could say they added Calvin Ridley as well.

681
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: Sure he's off of his suspension and he is back

682
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: in the draft. They go out get Briton Strange, Tink Bigsby,

683
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: and wide receiver Parker Washington first one off the board.

684
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: Depending on where you look, I've seen Calvin Ridley at

685
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: the three six, but not far behind him Travis Etn

686
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: at three eleven. So you got a couple of Jags

687
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: going in the third round within a few picks of

688
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Speaker 2: one another. Looking around at this Jaguars offense, they got

689
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: a ton of great pass catchers, They've got some good

690
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: running backs. What is the fantasy ceiling for Trevor Lawrence

691
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: with all these weapons around him?

692
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: This might sound bullish, but I think the fantasy ceiling

693
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: for him is to take the next step and be

694
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 3: one of the top elite quarterbacks this year. I don't

695
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: think so I have the top eight. I think all

696
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 3: have the chances of doing that. To me, I have

697
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: Lawrence as eight because I think he has the lowest

698
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: odds of making that jump, but I still believe he

699
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: can make that jump. He was the QB eight last

700
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: year and got more and more comfortable as the season

701
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 3: went on in Doug Peterson's past first system. I expect

702
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 3: him to take another step forward being another year more

703
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: comfortable in that system. And then you add in Calvin Ridley,

704
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: who I think is going to help take this offense

705
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: to the next level. He is now their best field stretcher,

706
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 3: their best red zone presence. He is the best receiver

707
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: I would argue that Doug Peterson has ever coached, So

708
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: you're going to add I think all of the big

709
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: passing numbers will be there. Then Trevor Lawrence, to me,

710
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: is a better runner than he gets credit for, especially

711
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 3: near the goal line, so he can add value with

712
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: his legs that I think we kind of overlook him.

713
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 3: Overlook with Trevor Lawrence. I keep saying it. I think

714
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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence entered. I'm not telling you he's going to

715
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 3: be the MVP this season, but I think when we're

716
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Speaker 3: in November December this year and we're debating who's going

717
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 3: to be the MVP. I think Trevor Lawrence is a

718
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: name that we will be mentioning in that conversation.

719
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that's surprising at all for me.

720
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: I think top five is certainly possible. And when I

721
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: say that, I say five, you know, I think I

722
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: think you're looking at you know, in some form Hurts,

723
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: Alan Mahomes, and probably Lamar Jackson probably the four guys

724
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: that I would put ahead of him. But I think

725
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence has every opportunity to be five, to get

726
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: past a Joe Burrow, a Justin Fields and Justin Herbert.

727
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: I think he really really can do that because of

728
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: the guys he has catching the football and because as

729
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: you mentioned of that rushing upside, we're not going to

730
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: confuse him with Jalen Hurts or Justin Fields in terms

731
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: of running the football. But I mean this is a

732
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: guy that you know, last year had nearly three hundred

733
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: rushing yards, had three thirty four the year before that,

734
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: five rushing touchdowns last season for Trevor Lawrence. So I

735
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 2: think it's certainly in the realm of possibilities. So yeah,

736
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 2: I think I think we can certainly do that. As

737
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Speaker 2: I said, I think I think top five is certainly

738
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: very possible. The question then becomes, can Trevor Lawrence support

739
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: two top fifteen wide receivers he had one last year

740
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: in Christian they're adding Calvin Ridley. Could could we possibly

741
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: see both those guys finishing in the top fifteen at

742
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: their position next year?

743
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Speaker 3: I don't think so, And it's not a knock on

744
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence. It's more a knock on this system. I

745
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 3: think the number one target is going to have a

746
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: lot of volume funneled their way, which is going to

747
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 3: be Calvin Ridley. So I think he will be, in

748
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 3: my opinion, at least, I think he will be the

749
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: target vacuum in this offense. After that, I think the right.

750
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: I think Christian Kirk will be the number two target,

751
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: But I think Evan Ingram isn't going away Zay Joe.

752
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 3: What worries me is in the preseason Week one, it

753
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: was Jay Jones playing two wide receiver sets with Calvin

754
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: Ridley and Christian Kirk was only out there for three

755
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: wide receiver sets playing that slot role. So because of that,

756
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit lower on Christian Kirk the consensus.

757
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: I have him more as like a borderline wide receiver, two,

758
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 3: wide receiver three. I think I have some good weeks,

759
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: some down weeks, but overall, I think Calvin Ridley is

760
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: going to get the bulk of volume and everyone else

761
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 3: is gonna It's gonna kind of spread aroun. There might

762
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: be a week where Christian Kirk has a big week,

763
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 3: then there'll be a week wherever Ingram has a big week.

764
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: There'll be a random Z eight Jones week mixed in

765
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 3: there as well. So because of that, I'm going to

766
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 3: say no. But I do think Calvin Ridley finishes as

767
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 3: a top twelve fantasy wide receiver this season.

768
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Speaker 2: Yeah. The only two pass catchers I've really been drafting

769
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: consistently from Jacksonville Calvin Ridley because as you mentioned, I

770
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 2: think he's going to be the target leader this year,

771
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: and Evan Ingram just because again we keep talking about this.

772
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: Right to be a top ten, top twelve tight end

773
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily take a whole lot. So even if Ingram

774
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 2: steps back from where he was last year, just by

775
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: virtue of the position he plays, he could still be

776
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: a top ten guy. So this isn't some grand endorsement

777
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: that Evan Inger's gonna take a huge step forward. I

778
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: mean last year seventy three catches, you know, seven hundred

779
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: and sixty yards, four touchdowns. It's pretty good season. I

780
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: think those members come down, but I still think it's

781
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 2: good enough for him to be a top ten Fantasy

782
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 2: tied end. So those are the only guys I'm really taking. Look.

783
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: I think I think Calvin Ridley, you're talking about a

784
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 2: top fifteen, maybe even a top twelve wide receiver. I

785
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: think for Christian Kirk, if you can get him in

786
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 2: the top twenty five by the end of the year,

787
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: I think you're doing pretty good there. But I'm not

788
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: sure that this offense is built just yet. You know,

789
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: maybe maybe if Laurence does make that leap that you're

790
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: talking about and getting into the ranks of the elites

791
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: and getting into that MVP conversation, maybe we can revisit

792
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: this discussion. But right now, I just I just don't

793
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 2: think it's going to happen. Last one about the Jags. Here,

794
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: are you buying into the Tank Bigsby hype.

795
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 3: CuNi sense, Yes, I'm buying that. I think Tank Bigsby

796
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 3: is a good running back. I think he's a good talent.

797
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: I think that he is a bigger threat to eat

798
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: into Travis Etn's workload than any other running back was

799
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 3: last year, and hearing that his role is going to

800
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 3: expand this seaton as the season goes on only reaffirms

801
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 3: that concerns for me. But I am not of the

802
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 3: mindset that I think Tank Bigsby is going to come

803
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: in here and steal the job away from Travis CTN

804
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 3: and be the lead running back. If anything. To me, though,

805
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 3: it's made me shy away from drafting Travis Etn because

806
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: it's one of those situations where pending in if like

807
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: ETN gets hurt, I think big b rocket, shit, rocket emoji,

808
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 3: all of that. But if they both stay healthy, I

809
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 3: think it's one where they're it's more they're eating off

810
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 3: of each other's plate. Then both of them have standalone

811
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: fan well obviously stand alone fantasy But you know what

812
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: I mean.

813
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Speaker 2: No, I do, and and I'm kind of with you.

814
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: I think I think Tank Bigsby's hype makes me less

815
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: excited about ETN than I would be more excited about Bigsby.

816
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: And look the thing about fantasy football, if you play

817
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: long enough, you know every player has a value somewhere

818
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: in some format, And I think for bigsb if you're

819
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: talking about dynasty leagues and you're talking about rookie drafts

820
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: and and that sort of thing, I think there's some

821
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 2: value for Bigsby. Or if you play in an obnoxiously

822
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: large and deep league, there's some value for Tank Bigsby.

823
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: But I think it's gonna be hard to, you know,

824
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: get him the opportunity unities on a regular basis for

825
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: you to start him week to week. And I think

826
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 2: even Doug Peterson himself has sort of said, hey, look,

827
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: we like what he does. We love you know, we

828
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: love the things he brings. Let's pump the brakes though

829
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 2: before we talk about giving him a big role in

830
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: this offense. So I think that alone should sort of

831
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: cause us to maybe stop and take a deep breath

832
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: for a little bit. But I don't know about you,

833
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: but like every time he does something, I see the

834
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: I see the hive. I see the hive forming and buzzing.

835
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Speaker 1: Uh.

836
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 2: You got like Jaguars accounts out here tweeting out pictures

837
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: of tanks and gifts of tanks rolling over things. Uh,

838
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: it started to it started to be noticeable that Tank Bigsby.

839
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Speaker 3: High He to me I think he's one of the

840
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 3: top handcuffs. And that's kind of where I thin, like,

841
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm gonna ever want to be like,

842
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 3: let me get me into my id like flex you know,

843
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: like I don't foresee that happening.

844
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: You say that now, but as somebody who's gonna write

845
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 2: the Sleeper's column, I guarantee you that, like a week fourteen,

846
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 2: I'm be looking around, You're like, yeah, hey man, Tank

847
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: Bigsby looks all right, Like I know that's going to happen.

848
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: Last team up here is the Tennessee Titans. Their top

849
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: fantasy scorers last year. Ryan Tannehill, your number one quarterback

850
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: in Tennessee. He was the QB twenty seven overall el

851
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: trektor Ceto Derrick Henry three hundred and two point eight points.

852
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 2: He was the RB four. Robert Woods, your number one

853
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: receiver from Tennessee one to fifteen points, seven, wide receiver

854
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: fifty nine, and your top tight end tight ends I

855
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: guess I say Austin Hooper was tight end twenty four

856
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 2: with ninety seven point four points. Just point two points

857
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 2: behind him two tents of a points behind him was

858
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: chig a Conco at ninety seven point two to the

859
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: tight end twenty five. So they were, for all intended purposes,

860
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: the same player last year Fantasy Your losses Josh Dobbs,

861
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: Robert Woods, Austin Hooper, Jeff Swain all gone in free agency.

862
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: Just one move, but it was kind of a big

863
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: one at least on the offensive side. That is, DeAndre

864
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 2: Hopkins comes over in free agency. And in the draft,

865
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: they go out and they draft Will levi Us at

866
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: quarterback and they add running back ty J. Spears first

867
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 2: off the board, Derreck Henry two dot five. By the way,

868
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: I mean this isn't new, but flor you noticing like

869
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: all these first off the board running backs. I mean

870
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry in the second round. I'm talking about Josh

871
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: Jacobs potentially second round, Jonathan Taylor second maybe third round.

872
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: This this was this was unheard of, Like even three

873
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: years ago, they were talking about these guys in the

874
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: second or third round.

875
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 3: This is wild, man, It's why take a receiver in

876
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 3: round one the round? The running back value in round

877
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: two is insanely good.

878
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: It is really, really really good. All right, but let's

879
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: get to the Titans here. Ty J. Spears talk about

880
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: the drum beats for Tank bigsby ty J Spears getting

881
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: some run as well. Again, I don't think you're gonna

882
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: You're gonna pick him up and start him as a

883
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: flex on a consistent basis. But will he eat into

884
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: some of Derrick Henry's production with a running back that

885
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: is starting to get up there and it's taking a

886
00:42:59,480 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: lot of wear in.

887
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: I don't. I'm not anticipating that. I think Spears will

888
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 3: have a role because I don't think Dereck Henry is

889
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 3: going to get every single one of the touches in

890
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 3: this backfield. But I think his role is more of

891
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: like a handcuff in case something happens to Dereck Henry

892
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: at this stage in his career. But he is in

893
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 3: the final year of his contract. He's thirty years old.

894
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 3: Like you said, he has been this offense for years.

895
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 3: I don't think they will change it unless they have to.

896
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: For me, the thinking should be like, hey, this is

897
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 3: our final year with Derek Henry. Let's get every ounce

898
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 3: of football out of him that we can before we

899
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 3: move on after this season. So I am still putting

900
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry in my top nine running backs is the

901
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 3: elite nine, And I know people want to say, oh,

902
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 3: he's had a lot of touches and he's thirty years

903
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: old and everything. There's been a number of running backs

904
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 3: who have done what he has done in his career

905
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 3: and still at this age gone on to have RB

906
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: one seasons, and Henry actually has the fewest amount of

907
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: volume of all of them. Plus he d in the

908
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 3: fact that he was learning how to catch the ball

909
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 3: last year and he used more in the passing game.

910
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 3: I think he has a path to being the RB

911
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 3: one again, and we were getting him cheaper than ever.

912
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm still all in on Derrick Henry.

913
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: I'm still very much in on Derrick Henry, but I

914
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: will admit that I like TYJ. Spears. Even early in

915
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: draft season I was. I think I was drafting him

916
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: late in early drafts sort of calmed down, and now

917
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: I think I'm kind of getting back to it just

918
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: because one obviously, as you mentioned, if something happens to

919
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry, we know Spears is going to step in there.

920
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: I do think he has a role, but I will

921
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: admit that, you know, in redraft leagues, I think there's

922
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: going to be very few opportunities for me to use him.

923
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 2: I think you know, maybe in a best ball situation,

924
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: he could come up and be in play a couple

925
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: of times, depending on what the rest of your roster

926
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: looks like. But I will say that I am intrigued,

927
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: and I think some of it was. I know, early

928
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 2: in the spring there was talk of, well, what happens

929
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: if the Titans start bad? Do they trade Derrick Henry

930
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: just to get something in return so he doesn't just

931
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: walk away potentially in free agency? And I think that

932
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: had me intrigued. I know that conversation has sort of

933
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: calmed down a little bit, but you know, it's still

934
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: sort of hanging there in the back of my mind.

935
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: We'll see, are we over projecting DeAndre Hopkins? From the

936
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: moment he signed there, we were all excited, like he's

937
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: gonna get all these targets, He's gonna be nukagad, It's

938
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: gonna be great. And then I saw that Robert Woods

939
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,479
Speaker 2: was the wide receiver fifty nine. And I'm not saying

940
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: that DeAndre Hopkins is where Robert Woods is at this

941
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 2: point in his career, nor has he ever been Robert Woods,

942
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: you know, in his career. But the fact of the

943
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 2: matter is, there just wasn't a lot of passing volume.

944
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: There wasn't a lot of passing production. Are we a

945
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: little bit too excited about what new Hopkins can be

946
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 2: with the Titans?

947
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: I would say yes, but that is because I am

948
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 3: not excited at all. Like I have Dup ranked as

949
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: my wide receiver twenty two. But even when like he

950
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: is my highest ranked receiver and I'm doing a draft,

951
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: I don't ever I'm never like, you know what I

952
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 3: have to do it. I'm always just like, yeah, I'll

953
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: go in another direction. Maybe I'll wait around my next

954
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 3: receiver or something like that. Because I still think DeAndre

955
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: Hopkins can play. He showed us last year he still

956
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 3: has talent. But I said it earlier in the show.

957
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: Twenty fifth is the highest the Titans have finished his

958
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: passing in the last like six years. Ryan Tannehill is

959
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: up getting up there in age. He's already showed signs

960
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: of declining. If things go really bad here, they will

961
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 3: make a move to Will Levis or Malik Willis. This

962
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 3: is just to me, and then also we have to

963
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 3: worry about health with DeAndre Hopkins because it's now been

964
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 3: a couple of years since we've seen him play a

965
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: full season. I think there is a lot working against

966
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins here. I feel like, to me, we are

967
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 3: drafting him close to his ceiling in this offense, A

968
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 3: big name. I get all of that. I still think

969
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: he could play, like I said, but because of this

970
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: offense that he's in, I just I let other people

971
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 3: in my league drafted me.

972
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was drafted him in a couple of spots,

973
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 2: and it just I think it sort of took my

974
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: breath away. When I went back to look at the

975
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: Titans passing stats. It's like one of those things where

976
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: in your mind, like you know they don't throw the

977
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: ball a lot, you know they're not a high volume

978
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: passing offense, but it really did I had to catch

979
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: my breath when I kept scrolling, you know, like the

980
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: wide receiver finishes looking for the top Titan, and I

981
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: got all the way to fifty nine where I saw

982
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: Robert Woods. I just like it was like a oh wow,

983
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: Like it just really to see it visually sort of

984
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: sort of caught my breath. And so like, I think

985
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: you're right when you say you're we're drafting him at

986
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 2: his ceiling. I also just think there's something to be

987
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 2: said for the big three pieces in this offense, You've

988
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 2: got you know, Ryan Tannehill at thirty five. Nuke himself

989
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: just turned thirty one earlier this summer. Derrick Henry will

990
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: be thirty by the end of the season. I think

991
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: early January he turns thirty years old. So you were

992
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 2: talking about a low volume passing offense that is getting

993
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: up there in age. When you look at their key

994
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: skill position guys, and then you got Treylon Burks who's

995
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: a younger player but is injured right now, there's just

996
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: a lot that, you know, when you really look at it,

997
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 2: sort of worries me about the Titans. In real football terms,

998
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 2: Mike Rabel will get these guys playing, and they even

999
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: if they don't make the playoffs, they'll at least be competitive.

1000
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: We know that, but fantasy, it's just it's kind of

1001
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: a scary situation. So with that being said, they don't

1002
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: throw the ball a lot. They have dere Hopkins, Treylon

1003
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: Burks will be back at some point. Is Chicka Konko

1004
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: off the board now or does does being a tight

1005
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: end keep him still in play?

1006
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 3: It's not exactly of all of these Titans pass catchers.

1007
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 3: If I'm going to take one a Conco is probably

1008
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 3: the one I will roll the dice on because not

1009
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 3: only did he lead tight ends in yards per route

1010
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 3: ran last year, which is extremely impressive. Like you said,

1011
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: the bar for being a tight end one is he

1012
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 3: could average nine Fantasy points per game and be a

1013
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 3: useful fantasy tight end, where if Trey Burks did that,

1014
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: we'd be throwing him back on the waiver wire. So

1015
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 3: the bar for a tight end is just so much lower.

1016
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 3: And he I think is a good player, a great athlete,

1017
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 3: great with the ball in his hands after the catch.

1018
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 3: I have him ranked as my tight end in sixteen.

1019
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 3: I might bump him up a little bit, but to me,

1020
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,959
Speaker 3: I think that's he's a good upside tight end. Two.

1021
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 3: Like if you, I wouldn't pair him, say with like

1022
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 3: a Dalon kin Kid or Sam Laporta, because I don't

1023
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: think there's a say floor there. But if I had

1024
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 3: a tight end that I thought like brought, I say,

1025
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 3: like say Evan Ingram or something like that, and I

1026
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 3: was in the market for a tight end, two, I

1027
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 3: think a Conquo is an upside shot that you could take.

1028
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that's the move there, right.

1029
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 2: If you're drafting a conquo. Hopefully you have another more

1030
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: stable tight end that you can feel confident in week

1031
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 2: to week. If you are drafting a conquo hoping that

1032
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: he is your tight end one U, that's gonna be frustrating.

1033
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: He's in that group of what there's probably about eighteen

1034
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: to twenty guys that can finish literally anywhere from the

1035
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: tight end like nine to the tight end twenty five.

1036
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: You know, it's like so many of those guys, and

1037
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: he very much is one of them. So I completely agree.

1038
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: I guess I'm not totally out on him, but my

1039
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: excitement level is not where it was saying, you know

1040
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: April or May before for DeAndre Hopkins came in, so

1041
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 2: we'll see about that. There it is. That's the AFC

1042
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: South that we back with you later on this week

1043
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: with the A the NFC South, I should say, and

1044
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: uh floy we had some interesting guests coming up. We

1045
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: got some you know, it's funny. We I would admit

1046
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: some of this is like because I was lazy and

1047
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: didn't really reach out to people, but people have expressed

1048
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: interest in being on our show, so that sort of works.

1049
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: But we got some we have. We had Chris Johnson

1050
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: we have another former player. Do we want to tease

1051
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 2: who the former player is? That's that's coming on with

1052
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 2: us soon. Oh yeah, we could do that, okay. Uh

1053
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 2: former former Bill wide receiver. Great? Great, He's a great Bills,

1054
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: great Bills wide receiver, right.

1055
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 3: He was in my lifetime as a fan, I was

1056
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 3: too early for the nineties teams. To me, he was

1057
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 3: my favorite wide receiver and I think the best Bills

1058
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 3: wide receiver until they got Stefon Digs.

1059
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's fair. So uh, if that is

1060
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 2: enough of a clue, then run with it, and you

1061
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 2: know we'll we'll hopefully have him on the show within

1062
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: the next week or so. Also, some really great analysts

1063
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: from around the web coming on the show with us

1064
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: as well, So things look forward to in the next week.

1065
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: And of course Fantasy Live back on your TV is

1066
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 2: still another set of preseason shows and then we get

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Speaker 2: going for real for the regular season starting Monday, August

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Speaker 2: twenty eight, So a lot going on because fantasy season

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Speaker 2: is very much upon us at this point. In the meantime.

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Speaker 2: That'll do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy

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Speaker 2: Football Podcast. He's Mike and Marcus, Stay Happy, Safe, and healthy,

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Speaker 2: do good and live well. Stay safe please just really

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Speaker 2: want to enforce that, especially with all this weather going

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Speaker 2: around across the country. In the meantime, enjoy your days everybody.

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Speaker 2: I'll talk to you again on Wednesday, and act