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Speaker 1: Kick Extra podcast. You know last week I wasted about

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Speaker 1: two minutes of your time just talking. But you know

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Speaker 1: what we're doing here. We are doing an extra podcast only.

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Speaker 1: This is not available on YouTube or anywhere else. I'm

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Speaker 1: aggregating all the best questions you send me every week

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Speaker 1: through the YouTube live section, YouTube comments, email, Twitter. However

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Speaker 1: So let's get right to it. Zach. Email starts us off.

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Speaker 1: He says, I was wondering what makes a college a

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Speaker 1: national brand? Is it winning a national championship? Do you

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Speaker 1: have to have a number one overall draft pick? What

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Speaker 1: exactly makes you a national brand? I'm an LSU fan

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Speaker 1: big LSU is in the rest of the country. Zach,

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Speaker 1: that's a really good question. So we know Alabama's a

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, They're all in that classification. LSU and Georgia

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Speaker 1: That helps. You had a superstar player in Tim Tebow.

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Speaker 1: do it, but long term, you got to win. You

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Speaker 1: that's how you become sort of a blue blood program,

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Speaker 1: what it's about, is winning. And having a national alumni

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Speaker 1: The more you win, the more attractive your program is,

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Speaker 1: But to put that lofty and expectation level, eh, it

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Speaker 1: is high. I've said this about Georgia though, and I'm

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Speaker 1: They weren't given him Bama Resources. He was getting a

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Speaker 1: no to a lot of questions. Nick Saban gets yes on. Well,

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Speaker 1: Kirby Smart's getting all those yeses, and you know what

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Speaker 1: that means. That means you guys have bought in. That

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Speaker 1: means you guys are doing your job from the standpoint

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Speaker 1: of filling that stadium for g day, for regular season games,

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Speaker 1: making it a recruiting experience and a spectacle. You guys

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Speaker 1: go on the road sometimes and takeover stadiums. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was on the field at Notre Dame a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago when you guys rolled in there like

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Speaker 1: thirty or forty thousand strong and so more outside the stadium.

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Speaker 1: So you've done that. You guys have donated well, the

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Speaker 1: lights of which Georgia has never seen. And so everything

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Speaker 1: at Georgia is getting checked with a big green check

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Speaker 1: mark everything Kirby Smart's asked for. If you get everything

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Speaker 1: you ask for, there's no doubt that he's telling you

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Speaker 1: I need this in order to do that. Well, if

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Speaker 1: you've given him this, I don't have any problem with

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Speaker 1: you expecting that. So the answer here is probably, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if we're being realistic, yeah, he probably does need to

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Speaker 1: win one over the next couple of years or else.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying fire him. I'm not saying that, you know,

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Speaker 1: it'll just be the end of times in Athens, but

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Speaker 1: I do believe that there will creep in maybe a

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Speaker 1: little bit of apathy. That sounds crazy, I know, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's I don't find it crazy. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a suggestion that has maybe a little bit

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Speaker 1: more merit than anyone wants to admit behind it. How

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Speaker 1: about Luke on YouTube how much money would colleges lose

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Speaker 1: without a college football season. I realized this would pretty

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Speaker 1: much never happen, but just hypothetically, Luke, it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a doomsday question. The answer is I don't know a

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Speaker 1: numeric answer. I know it would be beyond catastrophic. There

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Speaker 1: is no contingency for college football for losing a football season.

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Speaker 1: And I talked to someone couple weeks ago. I think

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Speaker 1: it was about a major university. We'll leave it at that.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to tell you who it was, but

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Speaker 1: it was a high up at a major universe. This

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Speaker 1: is this is a university that you think prints money. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so picture whoever that is in your head. There's like,

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Speaker 1: there's only a few of them that you would qualify

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Speaker 1: as this, but this was one of them. And this

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Speaker 1: person said, when I asked basically the question that you

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Speaker 1: the football season? He says, we can't. I said, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: happens if you do? Though, And he reiterated with a

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Speaker 1: dead serious tone and face, no, we can't. We cannot

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Speaker 1: lose one. Financially, we don't have that in the plan.

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Speaker 1: It would scrap every other program we have. We don't

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Speaker 1: have enough reserve funding, even in our emergency reserve fund

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Speaker 1: to sustain that kind of hit. We could lose some

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Speaker 1: home games, we could lose non conference games, we could

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Speaker 1: do that, but if we lose the season, it's a disaster.

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Speaker 1: So if that's one of the very top rung of

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Speaker 1: and ask yourself, Okay, well what does Middle Tennessee? Do

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Speaker 1: you know? What does Missouri do? And when Missouri, I

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Speaker 1: mean we're talking about Missouri, We're talking about Arizona State,

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Speaker 1: Oregon State, cow You're talking about programs there that are

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Speaker 1: not fcs, they're not bottom of the barrel G five,

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Speaker 1: they're not lower rung anything. These are major Power five programs.

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Speaker 1: And if we're talking about the top rung types that

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Speaker 1: cannot lose a football season, then you can imagine what

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Speaker 1: a well, like I said, a doomsday scenario that it

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Speaker 1: is is for the sport of college football. That's why

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Speaker 1: even a month or two ago, when this stuff was

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Speaker 1: And I was hearing them too off the record. They

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Speaker 1: were already presenting, Okay, well maybe we can start in October.

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Speaker 1: Well maybe we can even roll it into twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: You think, whoa, whoa, whoa. We're still several months away

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Speaker 1: from even having going to make a decision. But what

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Speaker 1: that line of thinking told you, if they were willing

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Speaker 1: to state that in the open, what it meant is

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Speaker 1: they're already thinking about disaster scenario. They're already asking themselves,

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Speaker 1: you know, what's the safety net here? Well, there isn't one,

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Speaker 1: So then what do we have to do? Whatever we

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Speaker 1: that should have told you everything, because normally, if there

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Speaker 1: a very last resort sort of thing that they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: even start considering until July, start in October, starting January.

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