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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink

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Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, who's still enjoying his new office.

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Speaker 1: We are we are gonna break down.

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Speaker 2: Just before you run into that. You did send some

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Speaker 2: people in my life into a stir where you posted

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Speaker 2: a tweet earlier this week of an empty desk, my

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Speaker 2: empty desk. I got a text from my brother saying

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Speaker 2: if I found out on Twitter from Ryan Mink that

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Speaker 2: you're leaving the Ravens, we're gonna have a problem. I had.

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Speaker 1: I had to tease it. It's called a teaser. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, if we got a few extra listens to

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Speaker 1: the pod our last pod that's a wind, it is.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: I'm not leaving.

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Speaker 1: So yes, very thankful for that. Just a desk switch.

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Speaker 1: I'm still recovering though, still the recovery process. But the

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Speaker 1: bonus is that we haven't talked about this in advance.

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Speaker 1: There's been no chatter about what we're about to discuss here,

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Speaker 1: and that is the way too early fifty three man

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Speaker 1: roster prediction. And see, usually when we're sitting across from

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Speaker 1: each other, it be a little ah that I wrestle

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Speaker 1: with this nothing no chatter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you did try to like start having a little

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Speaker 2: bit of discussion with it, and I just walked away

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Speaker 2: because I was like, you got to save this conversation

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Speaker 2: for the podcast.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's dive into this, Garrett. We'll start at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: so we have Lamar and Josh Johnson, and the question

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Speaker 1: is do you keep the rookie six round pick Devin Leary?

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Speaker 1: Do you keep him on the fifty three or not?

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Speaker 2: Right? It is that is kind of a challenging question.

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Speaker 2: And also I think that Malie Cunningham is in that

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Speaker 2: mix of ravens. This week also added Emery Jones to

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Speaker 2: the team as well and undrafted rookie, but I think

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Speaker 2: most of it centers ong Devin Leary Malie Cunningham. I'm

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Speaker 2: not ruling him out of this conversation either as the

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Speaker 2: third quarterback now. John Harbaugh said that it's not necessarily

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Speaker 2: a guarantee that he ends up staying at quarterback. He

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Speaker 2: could also work at wide receiver, but we'll see what

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Speaker 2: that ultimate ends up looking like in training camp.

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Speaker 1: I think they're pretty clear that that Devin Learry is

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Speaker 1: their their their number three developmental quarterback. I think I

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Speaker 1: think it would be a major upset if Malie Cunningham

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Speaker 1: were to snag a fifty three man rosters I think

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Speaker 1: it's Devin Leary.

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Speaker 2: He's in pole position right now. But I'm just not

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Speaker 2: I'm not ruling out in that conversation.

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Speaker 1: It's the way too early roster. Nobody can be ruled

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Speaker 1: out there on the team, so's.

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Speaker 2: Too early, way too that's the point of this. So

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Speaker 2: I have Devon Leary being on the team and the

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Speaker 2: Ravens going with three quarterbacks. Yeah, Like it's it's hard

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Speaker 2: as as the roster stands right now. And something that

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Speaker 2: you're probably gonna hear us say over the course of this,

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Speaker 2: like there are going to be changes to this roster.

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be people who are added to the team

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Speaker 2: that aren't currently on the team that will end up

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Speaker 2: being on the fifty three man roster for sure. So

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Speaker 2: like that could change the status of a guy like

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Speaker 2: Devin Leary. But as it stands right now, I have

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Speaker 2: him on the team and the Ravens calling three quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I also have him on the team. Uh, the Ravens

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Speaker 1: had four quarterbacks on their fifty three man roster down

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Speaker 1: the stretch last season after they picked up Malik Cunningham.

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Speaker 1: They have carried the three plus they have not been

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Speaker 1: kind of scrimping on the quarterbacks. And part of me says,

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Speaker 1: all right, well, Devin Leary, he's in really good position

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Speaker 1: to be Lamar Jackson's backup for years to come, right,

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Speaker 1: because Josh Johnson's on another one year deal. He's thirty

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Speaker 1: seven years old. You know, Devin Leary was drafted to

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Speaker 1: be Lamar Jackson's backup. Right, So if let's just say

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Speaker 1: he doesn't really have much incentive to sign to somebody

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Speaker 1: else's practice squad. And I would doubt that unless he

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Speaker 1: bawled out in the preseason, somebody else would claim him

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Speaker 1: didn't draft him. They don't, they haven't worked with them

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Speaker 1: all off season. Just unless you're in dire straits, like

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Speaker 1: haven't been in your system. All summer long. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, so there's a late sixth round pick here. We're

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Speaker 2: not talking about the second third.

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Speaker 1: For whatever exactly. And so to that point, I feel

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Speaker 1: that would be that would save you a roster spot. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I was really playing around with that, but I

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Speaker 1: they just haven't taken any chances. And like I said,

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Speaker 1: they had four quarterbacks on the roster last year down

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Speaker 1: the stretch. So I have him on.

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Speaker 2: I agree with everything that you just said. I actually

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Speaker 2: had him off initially, and I'm going through and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know who you're giving that that last roster spot.

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Speaker 1: I had some candidates for that last roster spot. I

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Speaker 1: was tempted, but yeah, we'll get to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I went with Larry all right. So now

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Speaker 2: let's move to running back here. Derek Kennery is going

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Speaker 2: to be on the team, all right, Justice Hill is

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Speaker 2: going to be on the team. Rasheen Ali the fifth

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Speaker 2: round rookie. I have is on the team, yep. And

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Speaker 2: then Andricard as a fullback I have on the team.

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Speaker 2: I have. Those are my four players on the team

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Speaker 2: to start the season. This is a fifty three man

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Speaker 2: roster to start the season. I have Keaton Mitchell opening

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Speaker 1: Pup list, correct, same here, Yeah, I mean I Keaton's

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Speaker 1: injury was pretty late in the season. I'd be surprised

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Speaker 1: in training camp. It would not surprise me if the

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Speaker 1: Ravens ease him back in, start him on pup work

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Speaker 1: him back in that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, wide receiver, I think this is it

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Speaker 2: gets a touch more. You know. Interesting here the guys

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Speaker 2: Nelson Aguilar, Davontes Walker, Tylan Wallace, and Deontay Hardy I have.

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Speaker 1: The same that's six wide receivers right there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think Deontay Hardy is in a really good position

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Speaker 1: he would be in a competition there.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Tyland talked about last year waiting in his car on

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Speaker 1: the cutdown day and then waiting for the news as

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Speaker 1: to whether he makes the team or not. He could

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Speaker 1: be in position to be waiting in that car again.

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Speaker 1: If the Ravens were looking to really needed to save

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Speaker 1: a roster spot and had to go five wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: he'd be in a tight spot. If Deontay Hardy beat

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I'll be curious to see how

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Speaker 2: those guys look in practice at the return of position.

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Speaker 2: Like Tylan Wallace of course took over the returner job

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Speaker 2: last year Whendamnan Durney got hurt and then delivered one

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Speaker 1: You don't.

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Speaker 2: You don't make the decision on the returner job because

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Speaker 1: He was he was solid.

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Speaker 2: He was solid and like he shows.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have as much juice as Deontay Hardy does

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Speaker 1: But if but if Hardy whatever fumbles the job, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think he like I said, I think he's in

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Speaker 1: I think Thailand is a solid option, and he's looked

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Speaker 1: good return in the ball, then they could do that.

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Speaker 2: I kind of feel like his neck and neck, but like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that like Deontay Hardy goes in as

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that he's a clear favorite. I

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Speaker 1: would probably put him a little bit ahead. But I

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Speaker 1: think Deontay Hardy really kind of fills, uh, the loss

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Speaker 1: of Devin Dumerney. You know, I think jet sweeps some

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Speaker 1: is your Devn Dubenet replacement. Devin Duney was a shoeing

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Speaker 2: Think that's a fair point. And like, you know, the

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Speaker 2: least five wide receivers at least. I also think, as

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Speaker 1: I'd expect they probably have six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think wide receiver is still a spot where

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Speaker 2: the Ravens could add and I'm not ruling out that.

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Speaker 1: M feel strong stronger than me about them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they went through they you know, reportedly had

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Speaker 2: So it's not like they're gonna be the guys that

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Speaker 2: just not ruling out the possibility of the Ravens still

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Speaker 2: signing a veteran wide receiver like Odell Beckham Junior is

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Speaker 2: these guys. I have high hopes for devontees Walker. I

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Speaker 2: think that he could be a you know, he really

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Speaker 2: they want to see he's a fourth round rookie, so like,

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Speaker 2: you know, that's that's a big role to step into,

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Speaker 2: even if it's just as a number four receiver, you know,

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Speaker 2: just think that like they're going to look for a

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Speaker 2: veteran potentially add to that group. I'm not at all like,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that the receiver group is just like,

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Speaker 2: about it, We're done adding here. I think that there's

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Speaker 2: still a decent likelihood that they add a piece.

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Speaker 1: I think, barring injuries, it's less likely than not of

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Speaker 1: them signing a wide receiver. I think I think it's

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Speaker 1: below fifty percent chance that they add somebody of significance.

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about some undrafted rookie that they bring

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Speaker 1: they feel pretty good about their at least their top four,

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Speaker 1: that they know what they're going to get from them.

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Speaker 1: And Deontay Hardy, I think, you know, he's a guy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just just to be clear, I'm not like

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Speaker 1: Well, there's still talk about, you know, a veteran such

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Speaker 1: Could here you're saying basically Nelly.

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Speaker 2: Like Bason coming here either provide or or competition. I

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Speaker 2: feel good about Nellie's three, just to be clear, but

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Speaker 2: like I think that you could pray it's good to

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Speaker 1: Sure, I just I don't think any of those guys

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Speaker 1: like you sign one of these guys and take snaps

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Speaker 1: interested in like one of those names. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 2: Otherwise, all right, well, well, especially how that plays out. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, tight end. I've got the Ravens going with

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Speaker 1: This is the easiest position group to project. I mean,

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Speaker 2: You think they could go with a fourth? That's that

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Speaker 2: I mean Patrickcarr can kind of serve as your fourth,

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Speaker 1: Look, I mean I think Charlie Kohler is developing into

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's those three. That's who it is.

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Speaker 1: That's correct, all right, So I mean, let's just be honest.

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Speaker 2: Over the top, all right. Offensive line, I think this

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Speaker 1: How many people do you have? Period?

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Speaker 2: I have eight?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've this was honestly, this was a challenging one

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Speaker 2: to right, okay, just to start there. Sure, Ronnie Stanley,

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Speaker 2: Ben Cleveland, and Roger rosen Garten. Okay, Okay, So that's

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Speaker 2: who I've got is your starters. Those are your starters.

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Speaker 1: And now you've got four backup. No, you've got three backups.

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Speaker 2: So I've got Patrick McCarry yeah, Josh Jones okay, and

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Speaker 1: So you don't have uh Sala or Nick semac making

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Speaker 2: I have them off the fifty three. And I struggled

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I have saymac on and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that you want to really risk losing him.

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Speaker 2: The difference for me on Sam Mustafer is that was

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Speaker 1: Mac Carey really has not played center, even in practice

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Speaker 2: I know, and that was I don't hold that against

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Speaker 1: The whole reason that we talked about Sam not having

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Speaker 2: He had him on.

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Speaker 1: No, I was the Sam Muster guy.

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Speaker 2: He was my God. No, that you're you're I think

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Speaker 1: I don't about this.

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Speaker 2: We have to pull up last year's fifty three man

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Speaker 1: That was like the whole thing was, well McCarey can

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Speaker 1: That's why they carry musterfer.

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Speaker 2: But must offer again, he's the guy that like he

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Speaker 2: of must for he is that's the hope. But he

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, I mean Week three, sure, week eleven when

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Speaker 1: His best position's been at tackle. He's been that's where

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Speaker 2: I think that he's to be on the team. Yep,

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Speaker 2: on the practice squad before then ultimately working his way

433
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Speaker 2: back and getting to the starting lineup and playing well

434
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Speaker 2: and then obviously had a great career.

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Speaker 1: Getting a big deal. Like all end up on the

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Speaker 1: stage on Tom Brady roast. Yeah, like he's on the stage.

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Speaker 1: Was Jenson on the stage. Jensen was on the stage.

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Speaker 1: Jensen and a couple of seats down from Rashad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that was Jensen up there, but oh

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Speaker 1: yeah he had Jenson.

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Speaker 2: But like he so so Like, I mean, Jensen's like

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Speaker 2: the best case scenario. It's like always easy to compare

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Speaker 2: a guy like, hey, we worked out for Ryan Jensen, Like,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Jensen was like a six round pack who

445
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Speaker 2: turned into like a Pro Bowl or I think a

446
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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl or big contract. That's as good as it gets. Okay,

447
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Speaker 2: So I'm like just gonna throw throw everybody into that comparison.

448
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Speaker 2: But I do think that you could bounce to the

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Speaker 2: practice squad and then work your way back as Saala, Like,

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Speaker 2: I think that could definitely be the case in the

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Speaker 2: path for him.

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Speaker 1: I agree, and like you said, the doubts that if

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Speaker 1: there's another position where they can make a signing, I

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Speaker 1: think guard would be the spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when Eric Tacosta was on the podcast

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Speaker 2: last week, he talked about how going into that third

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Speaker 2: round of the draft. It kind of felt like, here's

458
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Speaker 2: going to be a position where we could this is

459
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Speaker 2: going to be an opportunity to take guard, and then

460
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Speaker 2: the guard board was just wiped clean. Had it not

461
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Speaker 2: gone that way, they probably would have taken a guard

462
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Speaker 2: in the third round. We would have had that guy

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Speaker 2: would have been on the team.

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Speaker 1: He would have been on the team exactly.

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Speaker 2: So I think that guard is a spot honestly that

466
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Speaker 2: could be late. The Ravens have done it the other

467
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Speaker 2: way too, where they've dealt guys at the deadline, like

468
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Speaker 2: Ben and Brettison a couple of years ago. Like they've

469
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Speaker 2: dealt guys at the deadline, and I could see them

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Speaker 2: making a move.

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Speaker 1: Either they're adding somebody or dealing somebody potentially or both.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess you'll probably both. You could

473
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Speaker 2: go either way there, depending on how your fifty three

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Speaker 2: is going to shake out or how you're starting lineup

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Speaker 2: is going to shake out. But yeah, so all right,

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Speaker 2: let's take a quick break. When we come back, we'll

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Speaker 2: flip it over to the defensive side of the ball

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Speaker 2: one eight hundred gambler. All right, so who you got

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Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball here, We'll start

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Speaker 2: with the linebackers. You want to start with inside linebacker?

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, right, So so far, just to recap, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get I have. I'm gonna have one fewer player

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Speaker 1: on defense than you. You got one extra to.

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Speaker 2: Go because you carried an.

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Speaker 1: Extra offensive lineman. And that's our only difference so far.

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Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see it is. Yes, it is

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Speaker 1: kind of pretty similar. I mean, like when you look

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Speaker 1: at it, there's not a ton of tough decisions, like, well,

501
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Speaker 1: quarterback was one. We both side well the same way

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Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, all right. So I have four inside linebackers,

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Speaker 1: and Malik Harrison's really a hybrid. He's one of them,

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Speaker 1: Rokwan Smith, Trenton Simpson or your obvious starters, and then

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Speaker 1: I have Malie Harrison and Chris Board as my other linebackers.

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Speaker 2: I have those four guys. Yeah, but I also have

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Speaker 2: Josh Ross.

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Speaker 1: Ah, so that's your on spot.

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Speaker 2: So that is a spot. Obviously we could have other

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Speaker 2: different sass as we played through this year, but I

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Speaker 2: kept Josh Ross. He can be a backup inside linebacker.

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Speaker 2: I also think he could be a special teamer. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's a valuable special steamer. That's where he really I

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Speaker 2: think he could be one of the best special teamers

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Speaker 2: on this team. Now him and Chris Board kind of

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Speaker 2: they both do that. Yeah, but that's you know, as

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Speaker 2: I was looking at it, I felt like, when you're

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Speaker 2: coming down to your final roster spots, you're looking at

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Speaker 2: at special teams, and I think Josh Ross provides that.

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Speaker 1: I think Chris Board was kind of signed as the

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Speaker 1: del sewn Phillips replacement. Was there another outside linebacker that

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Speaker 1: we had last year that I'm missing, Well, a guy.

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Speaker 2: Named Patrick Queen.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's not him.

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Speaker 2: He's in Pittsburgh now, Veterans special teams guy. I don't

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Speaker 2: think so.

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Speaker 1: No, Dee Phillips was Chris board replaces del Sean Phillips.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I guess I don't really see the need

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Speaker 1: to keep Josh Ross as another guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think that that's their difference. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: the difference.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I like Josh. I think that he was

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Speaker 1: on the practice squad last year. Year before. I think

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Speaker 1: he made it and then ended up suffering an injury

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Speaker 1: and missing most of the year. I would expect that

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Speaker 1: he'd probably be another practice squad guy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so now go to the outside linebacker position.

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Speaker 2: I'll run through the guy. So I have there, I've

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Speaker 2: got a Desa, Isaac Kyle van Noy, David Ajabo, Tavius Robinson,

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Speaker 2: A dafe O Way, and Malie Camp.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, so you got a lot more of

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Speaker 1: a linebackers. I went heavy at linebacker, you did, Okay?

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Speaker 1: I only have five and Malie Cam was a tough

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Speaker 1: one to leave off for me. Yeah wow, Okay, so

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Speaker 1: here you are heavy at linebacker, which has not really

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Speaker 1: been the Ravens. I know, and I might I might

547
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Speaker 1: have just you got a little linebacker crazy.

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Speaker 2: I might have just circling every guy in the linebacker position.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have one fewer d which did the Ravens?

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Speaker 1: Can he not? You can't have enough linebackers, That's what

551
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Speaker 1: they always say. Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 2: Well, look I've already Malie Camp made the team last

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Speaker 2: year as an undrafted rookie and so like then he was

554
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Speaker 2: injured and they had you Davian Clwney on the team

555
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Speaker 2: last year. Ye, So now they didn't have Cotty East

556
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Speaker 2: Isaac and they didn't have Kyle Vanoy at the start

557
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Speaker 2: last year when he made it and he got added

558
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Speaker 2: after billi Ham got hurt. So it's not like it's

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Speaker 2: not like Willie Cam's spot is locked and guaranteed right

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Speaker 2: a job.

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Speaker 1: I also got hurt early in the season, I think

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Speaker 1: week two. Yeah, so that they signed Van Noise shortly

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Speaker 1: after that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, true, true. So I just I felt like I

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Speaker 2: just think there's like these young players like Malie Cam Mille.

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Speaker 1: Cam looks good like seeing around the building, like I

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Speaker 1: Malee cam was maybe my last guy.

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Speaker 2: Off, like he's he looks, he looks good. He's a

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Speaker 2: young player with a lot of talent. I didn't want

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Speaker 2: to cut him. I was scared to cut him, basically,

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Speaker 2: so fair I put him on.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So let's see what cornerback you don't

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Speaker 1: have on the obvious starters Marlon Humphrey, Brandon Stevens. Then

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Speaker 1: we have Nate Wiggins. He thinks he's gonna make team

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Speaker 1: for he's all right. And then beyond that at corner

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Speaker 1: there's your top three. I have Jalen Armor Davis, Arthur Mullett,

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Speaker 1: and Pepe d Marian Pepe Williams. On which one of

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Speaker 1: those don't you have on?

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Speaker 2: I don't have Pepe on the team. Tough call. I

580
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Speaker 2: really like him. I love the energy, I love the

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Speaker 2: way that he plays the game. He's just been hurt

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Speaker 2: and like he hasn't been able to stay on the field.

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Speaker 2: And and so you know, the Ravens resigned Arthur Molette.

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Speaker 2: They have multiple guys that can kick inside yep. So

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Speaker 2: I felt like and part of that is the safety

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Speaker 2: conversation too, that we're going to get to here in

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Speaker 2: a sect, but like I just felt like they had

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Speaker 2: they had the replacements there. And so when I'm looking

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Speaker 2: at when I'm looking at Pepe Williams versus Jalen Armor Davis,

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Speaker 2: for example, and I think both those guys are coming

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Speaker 2: into this year.

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Speaker 1: Those are the two guys really, and that much of becompetition. Actually,

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Speaker 1: you don't.

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Speaker 2: You, no, no, no, I don't think they're necessarily competing with themselves.

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Speaker 2: I think they're competing for both, competing for roster spots. Though, yes,

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Speaker 2: I agree, So I ended up keeping Jalen Armor Davis.

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Speaker 2: He's he's more of an outside corner than Pepe is.

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Speaker 2: You just kept him both though.

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Speaker 1: That's correct. Oh, I'm sorry, we forgot to mention TJ.

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Speaker 1: Tampa also, Oh yes, sorry, yes, also on there they

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Speaker 1: put all the corners in the safetyes together. Here, come on,

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Speaker 1: you are on the roster organization here, let's separate those two.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I do think that the arrival

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Speaker 1: of TJ. Tampa does make Jalen Armor Davis and Pepe's

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Speaker 1: competition tougher. I think that the fourth safety competition is

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Speaker 1: really a good one. That's an interesting competition for me.

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Speaker 1: You have Kyle really it's yeah, third and fourth. You

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Speaker 1: have Kyle Hamilton and Marcus Williams as your obvious two safeties,

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Speaker 1: right then who's your third safety? I have Ardarius Washington

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Speaker 1: is probably my number three right now, right and then

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Speaker 1: do you? And then I have Snoocy Kane, the rookie

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Speaker 1: also on the team. I think he's in a competition.

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Speaker 1: As we said in the last podcast with Bo Braid,

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Speaker 1: the undrafted rookie out of Maryland. Ardarius and Pepe are also.

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Speaker 1: I think it would not surprise me if Pepe gets

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Speaker 1: more run at safety and enters that competition a little bit.

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Speaker 1: They really kind of view him as a defense back.

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Speaker 1: As his rookie year he played some safety for them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. I think he's kind of like Ardarius, a

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Speaker 1: bit of a Swiss army knife. I think that he

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Speaker 1: if he has a strong summer competing with that, I

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Speaker 1: don't know that maybe he could beat out Ardarius. But

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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh was pretty effusive saying he's a believer in

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Speaker 1: Ardarius Washington. Yeah, I think right now I'm penciling him

625
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Speaker 1: in as the third safety, especially the backup free safety,

626
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Speaker 1: kind of taking the Geno Stone role but not playing

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Speaker 1: as many snaps is what I would anticipate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have Ardarius Washington on the team, part in

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Speaker 2: part because of what John Harwall said about him last week,

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Speaker 2: singing his praise to talk about how he's a really

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Speaker 2: good player. I have him as a number three safety.

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Speaker 2: We have the same four safeties, Kyle Hamilton, Marcus Williams,

633
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Speaker 2: are Darius Washington, and then we both have the seventh

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Speaker 2: round pick Sanoosy Kane. I do think as a competition

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Speaker 2: a pretty open competition between Sanoessy Kane and Bo Braid.

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Speaker 2: But they drafted Sanoosy Kane, so as we're doing this

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Speaker 2: way too early projection here, I'm going with the guy

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Speaker 2: who they drafted.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think the difference here is I have

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Speaker 1: Pepe on because I think that Pepe is competing with

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Speaker 1: Arthur Molett for slot snaps and our Darius Slash Snousi

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Speaker 1: as an extra safety. And my belief is that they

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Speaker 1: prefer to keep extra DB's slash corners over extra linebackers

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Speaker 1: like you put on the team.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, now, defensive line, this is where we're

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Speaker 2: gonna have another difference, right the guys who I have

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Speaker 2: on Michael Pierce, Justin Mattabik, Broderick Washington, Brent Urban, and

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Speaker 2: Travis Jones.

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Speaker 1: Well, we can just sign Brent Urban up for the

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Speaker 1: not making the fifty three, but he gets cut, doesn't

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Speaker 1: go through waivers and comes back right right, correct, we can,

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Speaker 1: but we're not doing all the right.

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Speaker 2: Actually was I was. I wasn't talking about.

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Speaker 1: The only roster gymnastics that we did was Keaton. Yeah, pup, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do that move later, just book market.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I'm doing the you know, he's not on

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Speaker 1: the initial fifty three, but he's really on the fifty three.

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Speaker 1: Move that's happening for Brent Urban. Yeah, but for our

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Speaker 1: sake right now, for this exercise, Yes, I have them

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Speaker 1: on the fifty three.

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Speaker 2: So we had do you have anyone else?

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Speaker 1: No, that's five?

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we both have the same five.

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Speaker 1: And then we have the same three specialist Justin Tucker,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Seult, Nick Moore. Okay, So that's it. So that

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Speaker 1: the difference is I have Pepe, you have Malik Ham,

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Speaker 1: I have Nick Semak, and you have real the difference.

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Speaker 2: Josh Ross Josh Ross, correct, right, So there's there's the

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Speaker 2: differences that exist there, you know what it'll be. Look,

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Speaker 2: the truth is, when we do this again for.

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Speaker 1: Real, see mine's balanced. I'm twenty five, twenty five to three.

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Speaker 1: I'm balanced offense, defense, special teams. You're out of whack.

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Speaker 1: You're you're just short changing the offense. You're you went

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Speaker 1: light on offensive line and cornerback. I feel I have

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Speaker 1: worked here very long.

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Speaker 2: Look, do you know this is coming from This is

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Speaker 2: coming from a guy who hasn't had a mock draft

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Speaker 2: pick in decades.

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Speaker 1: So so let's keep that.

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Speaker 2: In mind here. Let's let's remember who continues to get

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Speaker 2: these things right.

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Speaker 1: So I think I've been better than you, and so.

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Speaker 2: That is not the case. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's definitely

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Speaker 2: not the case. We will, of course redo this, you know,

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Speaker 2: when we get into August and do our final fifty

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Speaker 2: three man roster predictions. Is the way too This is

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Speaker 2: the way way way too early, and there's going to

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Speaker 2: be changes, and I think that that's what these next

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Speaker 2: couple of months are going to be, you know, interesting

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Speaker 2: to see. I think that as the Ravens go through

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Speaker 2: the rest of this offseason program, I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: going to be any big moves. I think they're going

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Speaker 2: to like, get a good look at these guys OTA's

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Speaker 2: mini camp. What do we like, what do we think

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Speaker 2: of these receivers, what do we think of this offensive line?

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Speaker 2: Do we need to add another guard to the mix.

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Speaker 2: And then you know, that's when they could potentially bring

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Speaker 2: somebody in to get here ready for training camp at

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Speaker 2: that point.

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Speaker 1: Right And that's how I want to close this conversation

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Speaker 1: is moving forward the rest of the off season. What

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Speaker 1: do you think is the most likely signing, you know,

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Speaker 1: the person who the position. Let's say that we're not

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Speaker 1: factoring into this roster prediction.

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Speaker 2: I think it's probably offense line. I think there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be somebody on the offensive line on the team week

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Speaker 2: one that is not here right.

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Speaker 1: Now, Okay. I would also anticipate that. I think a

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Speaker 1: close second is safety. Okay, there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: really accomplished, good veteran safety is still on the market,

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Speaker 1: like a lot, and I think that right now we're

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Speaker 1: talking about the third and fourth safeties are Ardarius Washington

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Speaker 1: and Sonoocy Kane, a seventh round pick. Ard Aerius Washington

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Speaker 1: has not played a whole lot of football. The Ravens

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Speaker 1: really like him, have liked him when he's played, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about Pepe and Jalen Armor, Davis

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Speaker 1: ard Arius Washington is not that far off those guys,

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Speaker 1: and you're not kicking them off the team because they

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Speaker 1: haven't played much. Right now, you're pencil on him and

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Speaker 1: as the third safety, So to me, a veteran safety

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Speaker 1: as a backup to those top two guys. You know,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Williams injuries have been kind of fluky, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think that you want some more backup

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Speaker 1: and it would not surprise me if they signed a

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Speaker 1: veteran safety at some point.

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Speaker 2: All right, so, and I would probably put unequal footing

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Speaker 2: to safety receiver as we had that conversation earlier.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, anyway, thank you for listening. If you

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Speaker 1: have some ideas on the way too, then emails at

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Speaker 1: the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net and we

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Speaker 1: will be back with you next week