1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the e A Podcast. I'm Eric Ellen, and 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: our off season coverage continues to roll on here at 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: Flar Park. Is Joe Caparosso from Turn On the Jets 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: joins us. Now, Joe, Well, it's been more than a 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: week since the Jets season ended and the winner has 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: begun in earnest and freezing out there. How would you 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: describe the Jets two thousand fifteen season now that you've 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 1: had a chance to digest what actually is transpired? I mean, 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: I would say it was a fun, entertaining season that 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: saw some strides in the right direction, but of course 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: ultimately ended with disappointment. I don't think many of us 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: projected or expected the Jets to be a playoff team 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: in August. But when you start three in one, and 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: then when you go in that five game winning streak 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: in November and December, particularly after how they beat New 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: England and they got the upset of Baltimore the Pittsburgh 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: I think everybody guide themselves from the playoff mindset. It's 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: one of the few situations a few times that you 19 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: could go from four and twelve to tenants six and 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: still you watching those games. Wild Card League and and 21 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: feel a little disappointed, a little frustrating, and wonder, you know, 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: what if what if the Jets were playing Cincinnati last week? 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: Isn't that a game they probably could have won? And 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: couldn't they potentially beat Denver this weekend? You know it is. 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: It's the type of year where a wild card team 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: could really make a run in the A m C. Yeah, 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: so I watched the second game Center, I didn't even watch. 28 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you, and I love football, 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: but I don't watch the Kansas City Houston game because, uh, 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: for a number of reasons. I was busy in the afternoon, 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: things like that. But later at night, that game always 32 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: catches my eyes. Pittsburgh, it's Cincinnati, it's a divisional battle, 33 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: it's the third time they're facing each other. It's a 34 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: grudge match. Um, did you find yourself thinking during the game, 35 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: how would the Jets have matched up with the cincinn 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: eddie team? Because people asked me that during myke Q 37 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: and A this week, and I said, hey, listen, I 38 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: don't know if the Jets would have beat the Bengals, 39 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: and frankly, we'll never know. Yeah, I think that's what's 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: frustrating about it. But you would think you're going against 41 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: a J. McCarran, the guy with limited experience, his first 42 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: every playoffs start. Obviously, the Jets have one of the 43 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: better defenses in the league in Cincinnati, I think is 44 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: only seven in their last seven wild card games are 45 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: voting loss to the Jets back in two thousand nine. 46 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: So I had a minimum. That's not a game that 47 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: you would have went in too have been like, you know, 48 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: the Jets are going to be able class here that 49 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: that's the team was really on their league. I think 50 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: that's a game that would have been tight, probably a 51 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: little low scoring, but a game that they could have 52 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: had a chance to win the fourth quarter, like so 53 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: many of their other games this season. So the five 54 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: game win streak after the Jets dropped that contest in Houston, 55 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: and it's not looking good because after a four and 56 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: one start, the team is five and five. What do 57 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: you think transpired there? And and looking at it moving ahead? Now, 58 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: do you think Todd Bowls and company can take something 59 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: from what happened down the stretch Sands the Buffalo game 60 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: minus the Buffalo game. Uh And because you're asked about this, 61 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm asked about this all the time is hey, can 62 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: you really take anything from last season because you are 63 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: starting a new and there will be a lot of 64 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: roster change. Yeah, I think they can learn. I mean 65 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: the positive to take is that, yes, they lost four 66 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: or five in the middle of the season, but they 67 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: found a way to pivot and not like the year 68 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: get away from them. It would have been easy at 69 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: that point. You know, they continue to spiral downward. They 70 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 1: finished seven to nine or six and tenant after such 71 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: a good story, but they found a way to sort 72 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: of rally the troops just what they were doing. You know, 73 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: we hear about how emotional and angry top Boles got 74 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: after that Houston Lawton, and they actually made some changes 75 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: in it. They called Quentin Copele's Midt season the former 76 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: first round pick. That sends a message to a lot 77 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: of guys. They got a guy like Quincy knew all 78 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: back room suspension and immediately got him going again offense. 79 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: You get all power back healthy, and you began to 80 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: see this team sort of at full strength and when 81 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: they were rolling, because then they have then you start 82 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: playing younger guys a little more like a Renzo Malden 83 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: and guys like Malden and guys like a new while 84 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: and other guys started to play more down the stretch 85 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: and played better. Hopefully, we're going to help take this 86 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: team to the next level next year and sort of 87 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: build on that course and pointing cast that really carried 88 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: them to you know, Brandon Marshalls and Eric Decker and 89 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: Calon Priors and all leavses of the world. But hopefully 90 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: you're you're gonna see some of those younger guys really 91 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: take the next step next year. And this team learned, 92 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, from some of the things that led to 93 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: them moving four or five middle of the year, and 94 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: then how they were able to turn the round and 95 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: get hot and win five games in a row. The Jets, 96 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: you know this, they didn't play well on either one 97 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: of those two games, and against the Bills both the 98 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: two seventeen scores. When we look back at those contests, 99 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: But when you look inside the matchup, is there anything 100 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: that buffal Low does that provides matchup problems you think 101 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: for this team or it's just more of a mere 102 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: factor of the Jets not playing well in either one 103 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: of those ball games. I mean, I think historically Ryan 104 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 1: Fitspatrick has not played very well against Rex. Ryan defense 105 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: is uh. You know, I think Rex has done a 106 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: really good job. Scheme gets him in particular, I think 107 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: from a whole Obviously, Rex and both I did not 108 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: have a very good year, but he seems to have 109 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: a good feel for how to coach against both. Really 110 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: Ryan Fispatrick and Shane Galley has had a good amount 111 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: of success against them historically. And you look at those games. 112 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: They those were the two games were the Jets really 113 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: got killed in the turn over battle. The first one, 114 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: I think they have five turnovers. It's not easy to 115 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: win the game, and they only lost by five points 116 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: despite having the five turnovers and directly anti Buffalo points. 117 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: In the second game, they really seemed trime to you know, 118 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: come back and take the lead and get a victory 119 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: and then you have three fourth quarter interceptions. So we 120 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: saw this with the Jets in two dozen thirteen, two 121 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: thousand twelve, two thousand fourteen. If you turn the ball 122 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: over a lot, you don't force turnovers, it's not easy 123 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: to win. And part of the reason they would tend 124 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: in six this year as they were able to improve 125 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: their turnover margins so much that didn't translate in those 126 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: two Buffalo games. Two games that you know, really stick 127 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: when you look back at mean that that was an 128 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: eight and eight team, You should at least be getting 129 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: split with them. Uh, even though they are a division 130 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: rock and we found a way to go spoil in 131 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: New England. You find a way to get us split 132 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: with Buffalo. You're eleven and five and in the playoffs, 133 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: and you mentioned Fitzpatrick. He sets the franchise record thirty 134 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: one touchdown passes, he throws for nearly four thousand yards. Joe, 135 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: where is this team at quarterback right now? You said it? 136 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: I follow you on Twitter. Turn on the Jets. It 137 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: would be a major upset of Ryan Fitzpatrick is not 138 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: back as a starter in the Jets also have a 139 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 1: pair of young quarterbacks and Genal Smith and Bryce Petty. 140 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: Of course I would say, yeah, you have to expect 141 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: those Pastrick to be back. It just makes too much 142 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: sense for both sides for it not to happen. Yes, 143 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: fitz Pattrick has some limitations, but right now and Jets 144 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: shouldna be able to get him on reasonable money. There's 145 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: not many teams out there who are gonna go crazy 146 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: and outfit the Jets for a thirty three year old quarterback. 147 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: We've been on you know, five six tiffing teams in 148 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: the past few years. He fits very well here. He 149 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: fits well and Shan Gailey's offense, who was very comfortable 150 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: playing with Brandy Marshall and Eric Decker. Jeff don't necessarily 151 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: have a young guy who is necessarily proven to be 152 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: ready to start next year. And there's not a lot 153 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: of great options necessarily out there when you're picking twentieth 154 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: in the draft, and it's a pretty weak free agent 155 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: trade market. So you have success with Fitzpatrick, you can 156 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: get him back on a reasonable deal. It's not going 157 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: to constrain your salary cap. It seems to make too 158 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: much sense for it not to happen. Uh, is Fitzpatrick 159 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: you're going to replicate what he did last year that 160 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: that's a fair question that that season he ever had 161 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: in his career. But maybe this offense, with this personnel, 162 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: he has the ability to do that for a second 163 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: year in grow And I don't see the Jets breaking 164 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: the continuity that they had on offense last year. I 165 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: think Fitzpatrick really won that team over as a leader 166 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: in the laws room and there one ten games, So 167 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: it's not something that I think they're going to be 168 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: in a hurry to make a change at right now. 169 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: So I'd be shocked at it's Patrick open training camp 170 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: at the starter next year. Everybody talks about elite quarterbacks 171 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: all the time, like they grow on trees. We know this, 172 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: but fits when you look back at his season, where 173 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: would you rank them amongst NFL quarterbacks as far as 174 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: what he put together on the field in I mean 175 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: in this past year, he was really like top ten 176 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: to twelve quarterback. It's been. It was a difficult year 177 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: for quarterbacks, and I think you saw that in the 178 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: first round when we had a guy like Bryan Coyer 179 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: starting the game having sixton over Kirk Cousins dis fantasy 180 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: season very strongly, but struggled in the playoffs as a 181 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: guy who still hasn't beat a team with a winning 182 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: record in any of his starts. Yet he saw the 183 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: wide collection of different people who were playing by a 184 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: Week seven team, whether it was Josh Freeman on the 185 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: Colts or the Browns being down to their fourth quarterback. 186 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: It was a difficult year in the NFL for the 187 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: quarterback position. And it's Patrick starting all sixteen games and 188 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: you know, throwing for over thirty touchdowns and keeping his 189 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: interception total generally to a manageable number really probably put 190 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: him in the top half the league at least just 191 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: looking at a one year sample size from last year. 192 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: So the question becomes, can you do that again? Can 193 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: the Jets gonna be built up the offensive line and 194 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,599 Speaker 1: get a little more consistent people running back position and 195 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: hopes some of their younger receivers developed alongside Marshall. Maybe 196 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: that listening up seems also now has you know, another 197 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: year of tap of Fitzpatrick and Shan Gailey working together 198 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: in the stretch offense and the schedule, well, I think 199 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: people are overstating how challenging the schedule could be. Next year, 200 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: it will be a little more challenging, and that you're 201 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: gonna have to go against an Arizona defense of Seattle 202 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: the against it will be interesting, you know, things to 203 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: see if Fitzpatrick can somewhat approximate the numbers that he 204 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: did for the jetice season, and if he does, they 205 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: should be back in the mixed for point off. Yeah, 206 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: the Jets have been clear about it. They want him back. 207 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: Fits was in the locker room at that in the 208 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: season Joey told everybody I want to be back here. 209 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: No surprise is there, So you know, let's see if 210 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: both sides can find a landing spot and one that 211 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: might happen potentially though offensively, I've been here for a 212 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: long time. I don't remember the Jets being this set 213 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: at receiver. Uh. I started in two thousand one, and 214 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: I've seen some good guys come through here, and and 215 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: you Lavernius Coles and Santana moss Is. You know, obviously 216 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: Santonio Holmes had some big time production, clutch production, Braylon Outwards. Uh, 217 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: you know, the list goes on. But where the Jets 218 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: are at receiver right now? You know, obviously I'd be 219 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: remiss if I wasn't mentioned in waiting for Butt either 220 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: uh towards the end of his career. But where the 221 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: Jets are at a receiver right now? Do you think 222 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: this is the best spot for them in a long time? 223 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: Considering you got Brandon Marshall coming back, Eric Decker coming back, uh, 224 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: Quincy and Nona was a factor in the run game 225 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: him and I thought he made it, took steps down 226 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: the stretch as a receiver. And then a guy I 227 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: know you're getting asked about a lot, is rookie Devin Smith, 228 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: who unfortunately had a few injuries here in his first season, 229 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 1: but the Jets do like his skill set. I think, 230 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the production you saw from Becker 231 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: at Marshall last year was the best we've ever seen 232 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: for Jets receiver duo. And it's fair to argue that 233 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall had the best individual single season maybe a 234 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: franchise history. And neither of those guys. Which encouraging is 235 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: that those two guys are still on their plan. Neither 236 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: of them missed any significant game time last year. They 237 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: got better down the stretch, they didn't show any times 238 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: slowing down. There's no reason to way to expect that 239 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: their production is gonna fall off the cliff next year. 240 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: So you know, you're set with Marshall on the outside 241 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: and Decker working Brewing slot, and that's one of the 242 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: best duos in the NFL. Beyond that, obviously, you want 243 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: a couple other options developed more consistently in the passing game. 244 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: Clinty knew I played a very unique role in the 245 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: Jets offense where he is would have a tight h 246 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: pact wide receiver hybrid and just has so much athleticism 247 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: and potential. You saw that speed when he got in 248 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: the open field against New England week sixceed It's just 249 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: mattering him getting more consistent catching the football, getting more 250 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: consistent with his route running. We know how he can block, 251 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: we know how he's about at the open field, and 252 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: I look for the Jets to try to find a 253 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: way to make him more involved around the red zone. 254 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: Even had many touchdowns this year, and someone who's more 255 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: consistently involved Devin Smith is gonna have a tough road 256 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: to climb to get you tours. A fail in December, 257 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: you hope that he finds a way to get back 258 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: to training camp. He just had so much potential, and 259 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: there were there were a few opportunities for him down 260 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: the field this year. That's just you know, PRIs patches 261 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: minutes so they didn't get connected for whatever reason. But 262 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: I would argy Jet in just how we were age 263 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: can not to right off town. Prior after one year, 264 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people were calling him the bus. Don't 265 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: do the same name to Devon Smith. These guys some 266 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: time to take a year or two. And Smith missed 267 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: all training camp in all preseason last year and began 268 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: to show some flashes down the stretch and he can 269 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: be a guy that at least by the middle or 270 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: end of next year, should hope would be a big 271 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: pactor for them with his speed. And then beyond that, 272 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: you also have a guy like Jason mart from the 273 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: back who showed a lot of the rookie and he's 274 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,599 Speaker 1: gonna have to prove to this new regime where he 275 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: can sit in the offense. But that's a big guy 276 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: with a lot of athleticism, passes in college and I'm 277 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: sure Janet created the fine ways to immigrate him into 278 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: the offense. And I like that parallel there when you're 279 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: talking about Smith and mentioned Calvin Prior. We'll get to 280 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball here in a moment. 281 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: Running back position. Very interesting off season ahead for the Jets. 282 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: Chris Ivory comes off his first a thousand yard UH 283 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: season as a pro. He was tremendous, especially early in 284 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,599 Speaker 1: the year, and then the Jets offense really got a 285 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: spark from Blal Paul during that second half of the season. Unfortunately, 286 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: Paul not in the lineup against the Buffalo Bills and 287 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: you could see a big time difference when he was 288 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: not on the field. Both those guys could be unrestricted 289 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: unrestricted free agents in March. What do think about the 290 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: situation there at the running back spot. I think it's 291 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: wide open. I made a really good point about Power. 292 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: It was just night and day when the Jets had 293 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: him in their offense, and he just looked so fast 294 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: and so shifting in the open field last year, almost 295 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: like a completely new player from the guy we saw 296 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: earlier in his career. But they have both decisions to make. 297 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: You can't expect to bring back bulk, Ivory and Powell, 298 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: and you know, running backs are a fairly replaceable position 299 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL. We see a lot of late round 300 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: picks and undrafted free agents starting a lot of playoff 301 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: games right now and leading vegan rushing. I do think 302 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to bring Chris Ivory Brackett back 303 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: after this persons a thousand young year. That price tag 304 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: is going to go up, and I think the Jets 305 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: may just say, you know what we saw, how blog 306 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: how can produced? We're going to get him back at 307 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: a lower rate. We're gonna see what else is out 308 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: there in the free agent market, and maybe we're gonna 309 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: look in the NFL draft. But you can't pay everybody 310 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be difficult to see the Jets by the way, 311 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: I mean Ridley is also a free agent too. When 312 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: I would probably only expect from one of those three 313 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: guys to be I would say pal is probably the favorite. 314 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: You know, I would stay to be back. It's funny, 315 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what that was under the radar signing 316 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: mcagnet re upp in Paul in the off season because 317 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people were concerned about the 318 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: Jets speed at that third down running back position, the 319 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: quote unquote third down back. But to me, blah, Paul 320 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: showed more explosion last season than he has throughout his career. 321 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: Not saying he was not quick before, but I thought 322 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: his speed was better than ever in two thousand and fifteen. 323 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: I mean, his ability as a past catcher on the backfield, 324 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: and you know even just kind of you know, as 325 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: running when the Jets s Gregg steal down it was 326 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: a game change just from them during that five game 327 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: winning streak. And be great to see what he can 328 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: do over the course of the sixteen game schedule. Who's 329 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: never really fully healthy. Last year missed I think like 330 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: six six and a half game and still caught forty 331 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: seven passenger. You know you're playing for the entire season. 332 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: That could be a guy who catches packies and often 333 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: contributes another six or seven hundred rushing guns. And he's 334 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: not going to come hofully expensive. You know, just got 335 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: him on a one year deal last year. You know 336 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: he missed a decent amount of time this year, so 337 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: it's hard to see him really banking breaking the banks 338 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: in the free agent market. That also has Ivory Lamar 339 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: Miller math points, take a few other big names out 340 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: there to the gent should be able to get him 341 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: back on a pretty reasonable deal and hoping he could 342 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: stay healthy for all sixteen games. Defensively, I liked what 343 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: you said about Leonard Williams. You brought up Moll Wilkerson 344 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: in his two thousand and eleventh season when comparing the rookies. 345 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: You thought Leonard did a fine job stout against the run, 346 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: and you think that as we proceed here that you'll 347 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: see his pass rush production and third third down production 348 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: increase as he gets more snaps in the NFL. Yeah, 349 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: it's really hard not to be happy with what you 350 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: saw from Lenny Williams. I think he met the expectation 351 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: between pretty big expectations coming with the still well because 352 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: production very closely mirror and what we saw from Mohamad 353 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: Wokerston back in two thousand eleven in his rookie year, 354 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: and that's obviously a pretty good guy to be hopefully 355 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: modeling year after Williams was immediately scout against the run, 356 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: did get three sacks and showed some potential as a 357 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: pass rusher, and you hope that next year he's more 358 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: of a guy who's a factor on some of those 359 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: third down passes and can get you know, six seven, 360 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: eight sacks, kind of have that jump that Wolkerston did 361 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: from year one year two, and now you look at 362 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: it now he's a guy who had twelve tacks was 363 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: past season. So it's hard for the Jets not to 364 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: be happy with what they got from Williams, and he 365 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: gives them a lot of flexibility in the defensive line 366 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: and even more death may already have. Speaking of third down, 367 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: what do you think about Maldon and the role the 368 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: car for himself as a pass rusher and maybe what 369 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: you see from the Louisville product moving forward. Now, Baldon 370 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: really a guy who got hurt and week wanted to 371 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: hit the ground running when he came back from the 372 00:17:58,560 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: middle of the season, and I think the guy will 373 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: we played in about eleven games and still had four sacks. 374 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: So for his third round pick, the play is sort 375 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: of a part time role where I think he ultimately 376 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: only played about defensive snaps and still produced the way 377 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: he did. Very encouraging for a middle raptick and I'm 378 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: going to think that the Jets are ready to have 379 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: him become a full time defensive player. Will finally give 380 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: them some speed mapleticism. Apia has something they've been looking 381 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: for for a long time. And you know, if he 382 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: goes from a guy who's playing defensive snaps school guy 383 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: who plays six defensive snaps, there's no reason that he 384 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: can't get near seven eight nine sacks in his second 385 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: year because he should only get better as an all 386 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: round player and as a pass rusher, and he should 387 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: really be the Jets top die off the edge next year. 388 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: David Harris studies a rock at that inside position, playing 389 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: the mic linebacker. The Jets use rotation, a rotation system 390 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: down the stretch with the Mario Davis and Aaron Henderson. 391 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: How do you think that worked out and how do 392 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: you think potentially the Jets could shape up on the 393 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: inside as we move forward. I mean, David Harris had 394 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: a bit of a career renaissance. I mean he never 395 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: really fell off too much, but he played as good 396 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: as we've ever seen in play last year. Again, a 397 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: guy who seems to fit really well in Copples defense. 398 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: And you could have made a fair argument the Jets 399 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: might have vote repaid for him a little bit last 400 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: off season, but he produced to that contract, who remained 401 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: to keep part of their defense and just best all 402 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: around linebacker which you've been seemingly forever now seem draft 403 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: about his team in two thousand seven alongside him, Uh, 404 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, he thought to marry a day starts to 405 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: his playing time to Heron Henderson down the stretch really 406 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: by the end about a fifty fifty split. And Henderson 407 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: is a guy who was very productive in the pastor 408 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: of Minnesota, and it wouldn't surprise me if the Jets 409 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: tried to find a way to bring him back on 410 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: the short term deal and see if he could run 411 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: with that starting position alongside David Harris, and then maybe 412 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: look to add to add some of the young talents 413 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: in the middle rounds to develop behind Harrison David, similar 414 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: to how they did with Malden Mauded in the third round. 415 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: He started out behind Tason Copol and some of the 416 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: other guys on the edge. By the middle of the season, 417 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: he was playing more than he's excited to start this year. 418 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: And maybe you do a similar thinking. Didn't till linebacker 419 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: you roll with Henderson and Harrison. You get a guy 420 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: in the middle round, so learn behind the two of 421 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: them and hope that he's ready to start. Jets totally 422 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: revamped their secondary and off season. We knew that was 423 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Uh Tom Bowl said, we got to fix 424 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: our corner issues. Mike mcagnan went out, resigned uh Well, 425 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: brought Darrell Reeves and Antonio Crimardi back, of course, um 426 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: and added safety Marcus Gilchris, who was a perfect fit 427 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: for this team. A real hettee ball player, tremendous off 428 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: the field is the way he approaches the game, and 429 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: he's the quarterback back there. But two guys I want 430 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: to focus in on our The one person you said 431 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: made a John Calvin prior, why was he such a 432 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: different player in your mind in year two? And the 433 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: second one is Nicole act buster Screen who not only 434 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: plays the toughest spot I think probably on a football field, 435 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: but he became an effective blitzer for the Jets, especially 436 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: in their third down package. Yeah, it was great to see. 437 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: Prior to take that next step, I think he had 438 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: some workie bombs and a learning curve and was sort 439 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: of forced to play a little bit out of position, 440 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: which never let him really played to his strength, and 441 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: top bowls just kind of let him loose it. This year, 442 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 1: he had him up in the box. He had him 443 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: playing almost as a hybrid linebacker safety at times, but 444 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: still there were times he was on the safety. He 445 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: was able to pull on a couple of inter steps, 446 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: had that big one against Alas in the in the 447 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: end zone, and showed himself maybe to be a little 448 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: more personal than we all expected. But his bread and 449 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: butter remained coming downhill, uh you know, tackling in the 450 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: run game, tackling in the short water to seeing the 451 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: screen game, and he was all over the field and 452 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: a guy who really I think help bring the Jets 453 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: defense to the next level and should only get better 454 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: with another year in the system. He gets more comfortable 455 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: at all and safety Screen plays a very unique and 456 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: important spot on top both defense. You know, the nickelback 457 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: of the slot corner is a full time starter. Base 458 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: of the Jets always have three corners on the field 459 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: and screen, whether it's blitzing, uplifting off the edge, or 460 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, providing coverage of the team's slot receiver. It's 461 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: just a critical part of that offense. And you know, 462 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: regardless of who is you know, book ending him money outside, 463 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: we were made a critical part towards because of the 464 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: playmaking ability he brings from that slot corner spot. Do 465 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: you think the division is getting better when we look 466 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: at the whole a FC East landscape. The Patriots, of 467 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: course one another division title. They're playing a divisional playoff 468 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: football this weekend when they host the Kansas City Chiefs. 469 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: The Jets go from four to ten wins and make 470 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: a big time jump in the first year under Mike 471 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: mcagnet and Todd Bulls still fell short of their ultimate 472 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 1: goal of the playoffs and compiti for a championship. The Bills, 473 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: I think have a talented roster, but they went from 474 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: a nine win team to an eight win team. With 475 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: that being said, they still want four divisional games and 476 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: that Miami is kind of starting a new with a 477 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: new ball coach down there is they try to get 478 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: things as set up. Do you think the division as 479 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: a whole is getting better? Are the team's closing in 480 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: on New England? Are you still think the gap is substantial? 481 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's so all about New England 482 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: and She's and how these other teams can find a 483 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: way to beat them. You know, the Jets were the 484 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: all the other NITC team who found a way to 485 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: beat New England this year, able to get a split 486 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: with them. But you say, hey, even they could have 487 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: won that first game in they win one of those 488 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: two games against Buffalo, maybe they're in a discussion for 489 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: division title next year. I would say the Jets are 490 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: the closest they've beat New England last year. They're gonna 491 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: have a lot of stability coming back with their you know, 492 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 1: rookie coach now coming back in year two, whereas Miami 493 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: will be starting from scratch with a new head coach, 494 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: uh you know, try and bring in a new offense, 495 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: Ryan Can the hel So that's a difficult process. So 496 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily expect them to be, you know, ready 497 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: to compete next year. And that's a team who was 498 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: swept in the ADS last year, and really most of 499 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: those games weren't even close. They were destroying and basically 500 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: off them. I'm sorry they did be knowing when a 501 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: week in a week's sending teams like who knows that 502 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: you really had their foot on the gas and the game. 503 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: So one in five in the a f D that's 504 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: swept by the Jets in the and the bills for 505 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: the build, I mean, you just gotta look at you know, 506 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: Rex's recently track rectorally after you know what he did 507 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine, two thousand and ten, which 508 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: we all remember and was a great run. He's now 509 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: on five straight years of coaching the team that doesn't 510 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, and we've seen the owner change to 511 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: the general manager change, we see the offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, 512 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks change spot straight years now not making the playoffs. 513 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: So history would stay. If that team is probably staking 514 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: a huggle around eight in the seven and nine, nine 515 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: and seven, let's just hope that its Patrick and Gaily 516 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: find a way to be a little more effective against 517 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: Rex's defense, and the Jet improved their Indianal record foll 518 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: three and graining himself be according to the five and 519 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: one team in the A T S. We just talked 520 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: about the roster, but from a personnel standpoint, I know 521 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: a lot of folks are already asking you about the 522 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: draft in the twentie pick and I'm like, WHOA, we 523 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: gotta get the spring first. And Mike mccagnet is addressing 524 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: the media here in Florence Park on Thursday. What do 525 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: you think the Jets have to do before they get 526 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: to the draft. I mean, I think they have to 527 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: look at their roster and make some decisions. I mean, 528 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: you want to try to keep your own town as 529 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: much as possible, and I think who they end up 530 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: keeping or who they end up signing and Cree agency 531 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: will maybe dictate some of their strategies. Obviously, you always 532 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: always want to take the best player available, but you're 533 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: not toned down to what decisions might need to boost 534 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: or what positions might need more tests, particularly in the 535 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: middle round. So I think it's gonna you have to 536 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: see how the negotiations go with Ryan Kitspatrick dot a 537 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: franchise more Wokers, and they find a way to get 538 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: a deal done with being in Harrison that could dictate 539 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: what out they end up going with that twenty pick. 540 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: I think you're going to see a lot of people 541 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: mock Trafting, offensive tackle z t Elliott running back from 542 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: Ohio State, or maybe an edge rusher to the Jets 543 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: of that twenty pick, along with throw the names of 544 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: some quarterback cap in. Whether it's a custom warning to 545 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: a Packstone, I think it's kind of wide open right now. 546 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: And I think after we see what the Jets do 547 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: in February and large in terms of their own roster, 548 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: you might have a better idea of how they're going 549 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: to attack that twenty Now. I know mccagnet had a 550 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: lot of money and spend last spring, Joe, but he 551 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: did an all of a job in the Jets personnelity department, 552 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: did a hell of a job considering all the guys 553 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: they brought in here. So many people came in and 554 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: contributed it immediately and made major or took on major 555 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: roles for the Jets in two thousand fifteen. I thought, 556 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: when you look at his offseason, it's spectacular. Yeah. I 557 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: think he's definitely guys in the special for being the 558 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: executive of the year. Any time you know, he came 559 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: moves from points fall the Penny's six and so many 560 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: guys that you bring in produced it the way they 561 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: produced Grandon Marshall for fifth round. Pank has over for 562 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: the teen hundred yards before the team touchdowns. Ryan Fitzpatrick 563 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: ultimately put a sixth round pick, has thirty plus touchdown 564 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: in the best year of his career. He already mentioned 565 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: what James Calkin, the Marcus still Criffin cluster screens go 566 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: onto this this team and those law the Cagnet free 567 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: agent climbings and the rookie class, you know, showed production 568 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: and showed some future potential between what we saw from 569 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: Leonard Williams, Lorenzo Maldon, and Devin Smith. So really did 570 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: a nice job in making over this roster to be 571 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: competitive in the short term. We're still having the flexibility 572 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: to build long term and we'll see more of that 573 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: as they prosta. NFL drafted six picks this year and 574 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: maybe not quite as much spending and free agency in 575 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: the trade market, and they still have enough flexibility where 576 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: they can bring back some of their own talent and 577 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: the active players at the fut of precisions all right 578 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: to final Once Bryce Patty fans obviously are going to 579 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: ask a lot of questions about any quarterback, and they 580 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: asked me this throughout the year, was hey, how much 581 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: is he developing right now? And I said, well, you 582 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: have to listen to the coaches. You have to listen 583 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: to Chan Gailey and coach Petulo as well, because bottom 584 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: line is, the media is only allowed out there at 585 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: the beginning of practice. It's not like training camp where 586 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: you're watching two and a half hours. You're watching a 587 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: half an hour and that's team stretching, special teams and 588 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: you're off the field. Man. You know, you still labeled 589 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: Petty as a big time project, and I thought he 590 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: came into a good situation because nobody was putting a 591 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: ball in his hands on opening day and say, hey, listen, Bryce, 592 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: you gotta go out there and want us win us 593 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: uh some ball games. The big thing Patulo said was 594 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: for a college quarterback coming in, it is so different 595 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: because you have to know what the defense is trying 596 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: to do to you where that bell or you're looking 597 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: over to the sideline. The play comes in and boom 598 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: ball is coming out. Sometimes it's on read, sometimes not 599 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: even a read. You know where you're going and you're 600 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: getting rid of the football. So for Bryce obviously a 601 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: big time learning curve. What do you want to see 602 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: from him in the spring, the O, T A S 603 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: and training camp as we move on now, I think 604 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: you want to see more consistency from him on a 605 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: day to day basis and practice. I think you want 606 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: to see him improved from this preseason the last pree season, 607 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: and then have the coaching staff be confident enough in 608 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: him that he is competing for that number two or 609 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: backup spot. I think this year he was unquestionably gonna 610 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: be the third quarterback. He was never any serious discussion 611 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: for me to be the primary backup. Gen Smith took 612 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: that roll back as soon as he would help me. 613 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: So has Teddy progressed enough where the team is comfortable 614 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: letting him compete for that primary backup spot and then 615 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: maybe ultimately be that guy. And it was a fourth 616 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: round pick, so Barrens had to be patient temper expectations 617 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: a little bit. It's not like he was a guid 618 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: tainment the back into the first round or second round pick, 619 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: but he was a middle round pick. So he's in 620 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: a good situation where you can learn from Fitzpatrick, learn 621 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: from the guys in front of them, more from the 622 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: coaching staff and let's see if you can actually throw 623 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: his happening to be the back room this year? All right, 624 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: who do you have this weekend in the divisional playoffs? 625 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: So who's going to be playing a super Bowl? You know, 626 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: I hate to pick New England, but I just can't 627 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: go against him in a home playoff game right now, 628 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: particularly Jeremy Macklin is not going to play for the 629 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: Chiefs in the other game. You know, big big band, 630 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: banged up Antonio Graham might now play. It's hard to 631 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: take against Denver at home, particularly with that defense. I 632 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: know it's not crazier outside the box, you know, picking 633 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: the two home teams, but I think Denver in New 634 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: England woold dance. And then I do think Denver has 635 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 1: a really good chat to beat New England in their building, 636 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: as they already did once this year at home in 637 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game. Certainly I would do for that 638 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: to happen u full displosure. And then in the NFC 639 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: I think even though that they are the one seed, 640 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: too many people are still sleeping on Caroline. I know 641 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people who pick Seattle this weekend. I 642 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: think Seattle is going to be banged up after playing 643 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: in that frozen unjures flug best game against Minnesota where 644 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: the only escape. I think Carolina will take care of 645 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: business at home, and I think Arizona will take care 646 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: of business at home. And then I do think in 647 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game, I would probably go with the Cardinals, 648 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: a team who, outside of you know, maybe one game 649 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: down stretch, look completely dominant and just had so much 650 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: depth and count between vettering, bookies and younger players. I 651 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: think we could be looking at a Denver Horizon Sun 652 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: Bowl this year. Yeah, I'm sure that would make Todd 653 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: Bowles happy to see his one of his mentors, uh 654 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: Bruce arians get there and play for a championship, and 655 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: hopefully Bowls and company are competing for the Super Bowl 656 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: next January. Joe, We're gonna folew you at Turn on 657 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: the Jets as we always do, and thank you so 658 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: much today for your time, your analysis. Absolutely thanks for 659 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: having me, Eric,