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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls. My

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Speaker 2: name is ty Hildebert, that fine gentleman over there in

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Speaker 2: the heart of the Midwest.

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, Sir.

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Speaker 2: Week five, Week five? Can you believe it is week

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Speaker 2: five already?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Yes I can, just because every successive weekend I

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Speaker 1: when you might be able to help raise children? Where

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Speaker 1: exactly do you go? And as I'm in my content

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Speaker 1: And this one's Wallda Wall. This one's Wallda Wall. Just

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Speaker 1: beyond pleased to announce the return of Centaur Saturday. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: Centaur Saturday too, the Centaur ing, No, it's not Centaur

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Speaker 1: Saturday once again? Yeah, hell yeah, Ty, this is an

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Speaker 1: incredible weekend ahead of us.

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Speaker 2: I am super excited for the weekend of college football ahead.

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Speaker 2: We're going to preview all the action to the best

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Speaker 2: We've got a live show in about a week New

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Speaker 2: We've got a paper every available surface to let college

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Speaker 2: that we are coming and we're gonna play a game

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Speaker 2: show next Friday, October the seventh.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna put a sandwich board on you in Times Square,

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Speaker 1: the show with the sandwich board, Solid Verbal Live dot

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Speaker 1: Com October seventh, Friday night before week six, So that's

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Speaker 1: that's coming fast upon us. So yeah, it's gonna be incredible, Dan,

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Speaker 2: Of the week in our wise old age, Dan, we

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Speaker 2: don't mess around at the top of this show more

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Speaker 2: We hope you are sound, We hope you're out of

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Speaker 2: harm's way. Football is obviously secondary to all of that,

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Speaker 1: Oh, this is just Iowa. Be in Iowa. Just what

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Speaker 2: That doesn't bode well at all for this Michigan game.

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Speaker 1: Everybody just penciling in Michigan another killer year, even if

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Speaker 2: You're gonna app rural insults at me. This could be

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Speaker 1: Yea, and although all the way, by the way home

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Speaker 2: Damn Michigan. This is a terrible play. What happened the

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Speaker 1: What happened? They've been the forty two to three three? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Iowa offense is scoring on Michigan

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Speaker 1: That's what the defense is for.

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Speaker 2: But bear in mind that Michigan's defense is also very good.

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Speaker 2: They're not just going to be for this.

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Speaker 2: They're not as good as Iowa. But the Iowa offense

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm way off here, but I just don't see

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Speaker 2: Maryland is a team that can score. Dan, you know

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Speaker 1: Iowa can't score. Iowa going down hard this week in Michigan.

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Speaker 2: The year, the biggest game of the year. They can

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Speaker 2: Last year they can knock a team out of the playoff.

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Speaker 2: They scored three point. I have three fingers up for

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Speaker 1: That's all. It's a different story. Let's keep this train rolling.

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Speaker 2: Also at high noon, ABC, Oklahoma three and one. After

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Speaker 1: This is tricky right a little bit because it's at TCU.

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Speaker 1: good sense for how the Frogs will do this. No,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. I'm choosing not to read all

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Speaker 1: Into Oklahoma's loss last week.

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Speaker 2: Because Case State's a good team. Well, they played good

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Speaker 2: I think TCU can score on Oklahoma. I think they'll

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Speaker 1: Can't go against Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: I don't see it happening two weeks in a row

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Speaker 2: It's not like Case States shut down the Oklahoma offense.

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Speaker 2: It's not like they got shut down, and it's not

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Speaker 2: I like Oklahoma's chances pretty much ten times out of ten.

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Speaker 2: Look, you know, all you have to say is speaking

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Speaker 2: I don't know who's winning this game. I have no

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Speaker 2: I could go either way here. I just don't like

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Speaker 1: That's too many points.

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Speaker 2: So I think I go Kentucky plus the six and

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Speaker 1: No, I'm taking Kentucky here as well. I think there's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, one thing that jumped out of me

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we saw what Kentucky was able to do

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Speaker 2: The other thing on the Kentucky side, they've really been

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Speaker 2: I think some of the factors that we discussed kind

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Speaker 1: Jump on Kentucky. But I think I'm gonna go Kentucky

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Speaker 2: Three other games here in that early window that we

436
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 2: want to call out very quickly. We've got Texas Tech

437
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: k State. Texas Tech on the road an eight point

438
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 2: dog now against Kansas State. We've got Illinois on the

439
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 2: road at with Wisconsin only a seven and a half

440
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: point dog the Brett Beilam Bowl. He's also got Perdue, Minnesota, Minnesota.

441
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 2: That line's been going way up, way up. Yeah, forget

442
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 2: what it opened at, but right now it's at twelve.

443
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: So Texas Tech, kse State, Illinois, Wisconsin, Perdue, Minnesota, Dan.

444
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: Who do we got in those games? I like Kansas

445
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: State a good deal, even though I'm not sold on

446
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: a week to week Adrian Martinez explosion that I think

447
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: he will play with increased confidence after last week. And

448
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: even though it's a letdown spot, I'd much rather have

449
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: that letdown spot at home against a team trying to

450
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: navigate their own letdown situation with Texas texts overtime win

451
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: against Texas, So I like k State there to win

452
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: by ten to thirteen. This is a double letdown load.

453
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: No got doud, Senators, I'm so hungry I'm so hungry.

454
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: Oh tech boy, tex got Oklahoma next week after obviously

455
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 2: their big win a week ago. Yeah, and Farmageddon is

456
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: next week for Kansas State to pick Texas Tech. You know,

457
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: because after after the Teas the aforementioned TCU breakup from

458
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, I've been reeling.

459
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: My heart's been in all.

460
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: Sorts of pieces, all sorts of places. Frankly, I just

461
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: need a warm body, and I think Texas Tech is

462
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: offering me that within the great state of Texas. So

463
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 2: Texas Tech might be the new TCU.

464
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 1: Throwing your tortayaya, Sure.

465
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 2: I go Illinois plus seven and a half.

466
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: I like that pick yep.

467
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about Illinois over the last year,

468
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: how they're just sort of pesky. They're pesky, they play hard.

469
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: If you look at the advanced numbers, the efficiency metrics

470
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 2: for Illinois, they also profile as a team that is

471
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 2: a royal pain in the ass, inconsistent, inconsistent, but they

472
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,479
Speaker 2: can run and they can cause havoc, and that'll get

473
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: you places. So I'm not saying they go to Madison

474
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 2: and win, but I have kind of sold all of

475
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 2: my Wisconsin stock after what they looked like in the

476
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: early going here, so I'm going to Indiana.

477
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: Loss has not aged well for the Ali and I

478
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: you can say, oh bad call in the end zone.

479
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 1: They had other shots, They had other opportunities. Wisconsin is

480
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: not playing Ohio State this week. Most teams are going

481
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: to look like what Wisconsin look like against Ohio State

482
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: when they themselves play Ohio State. So I don't think

483
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: we should overreact to the gulf that has emerged between

484
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 1: those two schools, two programs. So this might be an

485
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: actual by low on Wisconsin moment that Illinois they lose

486
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: Indiana and they look good against who exactly like who

487
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: is like, well, they took down Wyoming and Chattanooga comfortably,

488
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: Like is that something you want to bank on right now?

489
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: That they're going to go to Camp Randle Now they

490
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: beat them a couple of years ago in Champagne? Did

491
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: they not yea? But yeah down Virginia team Like, there's nothing,

492
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: there's no measuring stick to me with Illinois, and the

493
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: underlying numbers on defense have been very good, and I

494
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: think Chase Brown is full on really good. I think

495
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: this is a moment where you can buy low on Wisconsin.

496
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go Badgers here, but I anticipate at

497
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: being competitive for a good chunk of the game.

498
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 2: And finally, in this early window, I go Minnesota minus twelve.

499
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: Twelve is a big number, but you know, Aidan O'Connell

500
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: was out last week for Perdue.

501
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: I'm assuming he's got to play this week. I don't

502
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that for sure.

503
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was questionable a week ago, so yeah, I'm

504
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: hopeful on the produce side that he can come back

505
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 2: and play in this game. But you know, the Gophers

506
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: just destroyed Michigan State last week. There's no look ahead

507
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: threat here. They're going into a bye.

508
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: They play kind.

509
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: Of a just boring style of football. They'll grind you

510
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: down to a halt, and I think they're really good.

511
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: I think they're really really good. So I'll go Minnesota,

512
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: even though I don't feel great about that twelve.

513
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: No, I've been going back and forth on this one forever.

514
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: I think I'm going Minnesota as well. And it's a

515
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: big number, but it's in Minneapolis, is it not correct? Okay?

516
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: So Minneapolis or Minnesota another one of those teams where,

517
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: all due respect to Michigan State, have they played anybody

518
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: as Minnesota like, if Michigan State is average, what they

519
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: did to them was crazy impressive. If they're not average, less,

520
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: so I think there's less reason, especially with quarterback up

521
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 1: in the air. And I realized Austin Burton did make

522
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: plays last week and they ran the ball surprisingly well

523
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: last week beat against FA Why don't we do this?

524
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: Why don't we do this? Yeah?

525
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 2: I see you're talking yourself into a lather. Why don't

526
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: we both go Purdue? Why don't we both go Purdue?

527
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: Because we both we can fully acknowledge. We like Minnesota,

528
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: we think Minnesota's gonna win. We don't like the point spread,

529
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: and something about this line feels weird.

530
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: Why don't we just both let just both I'm no,

531
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: I'm I say your judgment is so off this week

532
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: Minnesota lock of the week? What? Yes? How about that

533
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: lock of the week you convinced that you convinced me? Yeah, okay,

534
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: I'm drafting off of the opportunity truck. And how I

535
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: see your vibes emitting from your being all right, Scott.

536
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: I was on Minnesota before you were, so I'm just

537
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: gonna stick with my original pick.

538
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: So we're making a pact. What you're saying just in

539
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: the other direction. Yeah, making a.

540
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: Packed yeah, all right, afternoon window of games. I guess

541
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 2: the headliner would be Alabama against Arkansas. It's the CBS game.

542
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: Alabama four and oh Arkansas three and one. Alabama favored

543
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: by seventeen? Is that what it's up to, Cheesez seventeen?

544
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: I have Bama by twenty one. Okay, I had Bama

545
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: by twenty one, especially after what we saw last week.

546
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: Two things in particular about this matchup. First off, Arkansas

547
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: last week knew that Devin Ah Chang is going to

548
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: get the ball. There's not a whole lot of mystery

549
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: about whether Max Johnson's going to blow the lid off

550
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: the defense or what Jimbo's going to try and do

551
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: an offense. That's pretty much telegraphed. We knew what they

552
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: were going to do, so they knew what was going

553
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: to happen as well, and they still couldn't stop it,

554
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: which is fine, but I think that's a big issue

555
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: when you're going up against Jamior Gibbs. I think Dick Saban,

556
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: I think Bill O'Brien. They're going to find ways to

557
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: utilize Jamiir Gibbs either out of the backfield and space,

558
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: get him out out wide. I mean, they find creative

559
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: ways to get him the football. He might be their

560
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: best playmaker outside of Bryce Young on offense. I think

561
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: it's a big game for Jamior Gibbs. I don't think

562
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: they have an answer for him. And secondly, I've been

563
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: thinking a lot about what you said on Sunday about

564
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: kJ Jefferson and now this is a prophetic moment from you,

565
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: and I appreciate your wisdom. You were mentioning how the

566
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: loss of Trailing Burke's is a bigger deal than some

567
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: have given a credit for. I think it's just it's

568
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: such an important point. We talked about it a lot

569
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: in the preseason. It wasn't something that was totally off

570
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: the raider. Trailing Burk's obviously a pro player now. kJ

571
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: Jefferson is good enough to single handedly win games against

572
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: most of the teams on Arkansas schedule. But what I

573
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: think we're going to learn is that he needs help

574
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: if they want to beat some of the top fifteen

575
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: caliber defenses out there. Like Jayden Hazelwood, a good transfer,

576
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: a fine transfer. He's a big guy. Yeah, big body dude,

577
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: but he's a different cat than Trailing Burk's. It's just different,

578
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: and it just feels to me like there is that

579
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: extra gear missing this year for the Hogs. Still a

580
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: very good team, but I think not having that extra

581
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: gear makes them a little less dangerous. I would also

582
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: add on top of all that that this is Alabama's

583
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: first road game since the Texas debacle. And though I'm

584
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: not sure if they've solved their own issues on offense

585
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: in the downfield, passing game and some of the stuff

586
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 2: that you know, I know they're still trying to work

587
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: work out and they will eventually. I don't think they

588
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: need to do any of that to win this game comfortably.

589
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: I just think it's a mismatch. Even though that number

590
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: is huge, even though the game is in Arkansas. I'm

591
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: on Alabama by twenty one.

592
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they haven't been covering as much on the road

593
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: these past couple of years Alabama. As with those some

594
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: of those bigger numbers as favorites. I'm going Alabama as

595
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: well here. And it's more of more out of concern

596
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: for Arkansas. And you say you still think Arkansas is

597
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: very good, I'm not positive that's the case. They've taken

598
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: a step back in the passing game, they're giving up

599
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: big plays on defense, both on the ground and through

600
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: the air, the thing that they've probably done the strongest.

601
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: And look, the schedule has been very odd. You know.

602
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: They open with Cincinnati and then they have South Carolina

603
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: and A and M like sort of all over the place.

604
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: And so we have a good idea of what Arkansas

605
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: is and isn't. I'm a little bit worried. I'm a

606
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: little bit worried that last year was kind of a

607
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: perfect storm of a year, and I just think there's

608
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: something a little bit off with Arkansas right now. And

609
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: I think even last year they were able to lose

610
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: a game thirty seven to nothing against Georgia. This year's

611
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: Alabama was not last year's Georgie. I get that. I

612
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: think I have this as like thirty four seventeen or

613
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: thirty seven to seventeen. I have Alabama covering this, maybe

614
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: close for a half, but it opens up in the second. Yeah,

615
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm with you, Dan. I think we've.

616
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: Also in that three thirty afternoon window, we got Oklahoma

617
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: State at Baylor m three thirty on Fox. Baylor a

618
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: favored by two and a half three points at home.

619
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: Important disclaimer right now from the altar of tie. I

620
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: don't feel like I know Oklahoma State at all this season, really,

621
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: any season.

622
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: I mean, who have they played this year that you

623
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: can reach.

624
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: I don't just mean this season, I mean every season.

625
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: I never have a fix on Oklahoma State. They haven't

626
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: played anyone. Unless you're counting Arizona State, I do not.

627
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: But I have a real blind spot for Oklahoma State

628
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: because every year, at least in Spencer Sanders has been there.

629
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: I'd be like, I count this team out unjustifiably. I

630
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: sell Spencer Sanders short, and then he comes back to

631
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: you know, put in a reasonable effort, Oklahoma State wins

632
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: and covers. So with all that being said, I'm going

633
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: to do.

634
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: That was the story of the festival.

635
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: The Yeah, I mean we saw it play out in

636
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: two halves of football. Yeah, I'm going to defer to

637
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: you for the first pick here.

638
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 1: I think Spencer Sanders is largely really really good. I

639
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: just don't have that trust because I say largely because

640
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: he kind of has a Baylor issue specifically played him

641
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: twice last year. I don't know if I wrote this down,

642
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: I kind of hate it, but I also secretly kind

643
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: of love it. So Spencer Sanders just floating through the ocean,

644
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: just as a six tessful quarterback, just trying not to

645
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: get sucked into the Baylor Bayleen, you know what I'm

646
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: talking about Ty in this situation, I feel like he

647
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: is aggressively talented krill. Maybe I don't know where we're

648
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: going with this, Okay, but baleen that he and his

649
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: game gets sucked into Baylor and I'm not there. I'm

650
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: not there. Baylor at home Oklahoma stake coming off of

651
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: a buy, are they not? Yep? But I worry about

652
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: that first real opponent, Baylor improving finding problematic influencer. Gavin Holmes.

653
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: That's his name, right, I He's to be clear, I

654
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: having Holmes, to my knowledge, is not a problematic influencer.

655
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: His name just makes him sound like one. I'm going

656
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: Baylor here. I'm going Baylor here because I know more

657
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: about the good and bad of Baylor the games in Waco,

658
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: and there is some sort of blockage, it seems, with

659
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: Spencer Sanders and Baylor and different players, different different guys.

660
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: But I think Baylor is rounding into shape nicely in

661
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: the game as in Waco. So I'm going with the Bears. Yeah,

662
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: I think there's a bit.

663
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 2: Of a tell in the efficiency numbers about the way

664
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 2: this one's gonna go. Oklahoma State has not proven itself

665
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: much of a running team this year. Their rushing profile

666
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: kind of a car crash. Honestly, it's not good. Yeah,

667
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: I think Baylor is happy to play that game. I

668
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: think they would love to let Spencer Sanders throw as

669
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 2: much as he'd like. Keep in mind, as you said,

670
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: the Bears accounted for seven of his twelve interceptions last season.

671
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: I don't expect he'll struggle to the same degree this

672
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: year because the Bears pass defense is not as good. However, However,

673
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: David and is happy to play that style. He is

674
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: happy to play that style. I think he feels good

675
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: about his offense. After what we saw last week, it

676
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 2: feels like there's been some progress there. The running game

677
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 2: has slowly emerged as a compliment to Blake's shapen, which

678
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: was one of my big questions coming into the season.

679
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm fully in on Baylor. I stand

680
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: by the that they're over Under was seven and a

681
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: half for a reason. I know what that reason was.

682
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: During the season, I believe Dave Rand is good enough

683
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: to fix it. But I like Baylor two.

684
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: I think this is a good game. I think this

685
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: is close.

686
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: I'm excited to watch it as my main game, my

687
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: volume game in this window. I think it's Baylor, like

688
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: twenty eight to twenty four, something like that. I'm debating

689
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: whether or not I actually want to bet on this game,

690
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: because I actually feel pretty good about Baylor. But I

691
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: just think it's gonna be good game. It's gonna be

692
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: a fun game to watch, it's gonna be closed.

693
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: These are two good teams. Yeah, the Baylor defense is

694
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: quietly emerging in a really impressive way, just because we've

695
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: seen them play against Iowa statetan BYU. We have data

696
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: points on them that are meaningful and Oklahoma State. You

697
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: would think that their numbers and their performances would be

698
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: indicative of absolute dominance, and it's not really there yet.

699
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 2: Five other games here that I want to rifle through

700
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: if we can. Let's in the afternoon window. There's so

701
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: many games this time around Dan we had to organize

702
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: it by window, try and keep it all straight. I

703
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 2: couldn't keep them organized if they did it the old way. Yep,

704
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: Wake Forest at Florida State three thirty ABC. Florida State

705
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 2: favored by seven. Important to note this is the first

706
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: time under Mike Norvel that Florida State has been favored

707
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: against an AP ranked opponent.

708
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: Wow, how about that for a nug Got some couple

709
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: of bottle nosed dolphins looking majestic through the air. Jordan

710
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: Travis and Sam Hartman in my right tie virtual high five.

711
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, Wake Forest. Bit of a letdown after last

712
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: week with Clemson game, the overtime game. I really want

713
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: to go Florida State here.

714
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: Do it, you coward?

715
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: Potentially a weather affected game. Yeah, potentially.

716
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: Florida State's good, but not good enough to.

717
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: Get this much separation against another good team. And that's

718
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: what really worries me. That's why I'm going wake Forest

719
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: plus seven.

720
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: As am I. Yeah, I'm not fully sold on Florida

721
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: State's defense quite yet. And I think Wake and Sam

722
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: Hartman will be able to move the ball against just

723
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: about anybody. Doesn't mean that they can beat just about anybody,

724
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: but I think this is back and forth, and in

725
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: this type of shootout or in a weather affected game,

726
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: I like to take points. So that's precisely what I'm doing.

727
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: Three thirty ESPN two Iowa State minus three on the

728
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: road at Bardo, Kansas. Good lord, if you are unless

729
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: you're an Iowa State fan, you have no reason or

730
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: not route for Kansas.

731
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: Here, right. I agree America's team Kansas is a Miszoo fan.

732
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: I think there's obviously residual feelings, But.

733
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta go Kansas plus the points at home?

734
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: Why not? What the hell as am I h And

735
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: my logic is simply, I think Iowa State is a

736
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: more complete team because I think they play better defense,

737
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: and I think they are able to move the ball

738
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: in more creative ways than they were able to show

739
00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 1: in the Sihawk game. But still, I'm a firm believer

740
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: that there is there is going to be a threshold,

741
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 1: a number of points that you have to hit against

742
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: Kansas to beat them, and that's somewhere around thirty. And

743
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: that's where I worry about Iowa State. I don't think

744
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 1: Kansas is going to win a ton of games this year,

745
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: but at home, with a lot of the good vibes

746
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: surrounding the Jayhawk program, I still worry about Iowa State

747
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: and explosive plays and making teams pay. So I'm going

748
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: Kansas here to pull this one out at home and

749
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: keep the good the good vibes rolling. Let's call it

750
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: thirty four to thirty.

751
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: Oregon State at Utah, Utah favored by ten and a

752
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: half points.

753
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: Blunk of the Week.

754
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 2: Two things to note here, Dan huge miss I'm ready

755
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: a huge mismatch on the front line, huge, huge mismatch

756
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: between Utah's offensive line Oregon State's front I think Tavi

757
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: and Thomas may swallow them whole yeah.

758
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: On the ground, specifically, Oregon State did a nice job

759
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: getting after Caleb Williams.

760
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: It did a nice job getting after Caleb Williams. But

761
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 2: I think specifically that matchup on the ground is why

762
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: Utah is the pick here. It's also a letdown spot

763
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 2: for Oregon State. They're traveling, they're on the road. I'm

764
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 2: locking up Utah minus ten and a half.

765
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: I like that pick a lot. I'm confidently taking Utah here.

766
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: Letdown spot altitude, Tyler, who quick on the draw. I

767
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: like that and the very specific mismatch of what USC

768
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: was able to do on the ground. I think Utah

769
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: is going to continue that. I just think Utah is

770
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: a more complete team than USC and will systematically destroy

771
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: the Beaves in a revenge spot as.

772
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: Well, if you remember, yeah, the revenge spot. Okay, yeah,

773
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: Michigan State at Maryland. You sent me the eyes of

774
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: Mooji when I sent this point spread to you on Sunday.

775
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: And it's gone up.

776
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gone up. It's over a touchdown. Maryland favored

777
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 2: at home by seven and a half at time of

778
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: recording over Sparty. This is in effect a giant vote

779
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: of no confidence from Vegas in Michigan State. I am

780
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: taking Michigan State with the points though, for two reasons,

781
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: two very important reasons. First off, big letdown spot from

782
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 2: Maryland after the Michigan game coming back home.

783
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they'll be ready for this one.

784
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: But it takes you a while sometimes to process a

785
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: loss of that magnitude. And secondly, you know, I know

786
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: Maryland has been talking now they want to beat the

787
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: top four consistently, that blah blah blah. I know how

788
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: they're slowly trying to rid themselves and the mistakes that

789
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: have come back to bite them the last couple of seasons.

790
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: Maryland's got to prove it to us, Dan, they got

791
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: to prove they all win a game like this.

792
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: Now.

793
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: I know they've They've gotten a couple here and there,

794
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: but like they need to prove that when push comes

795
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: to shove, without any kind of fluke, without any kind

796
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: of like weird happenstance at home, favored against one of

797
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: the better teams, let's say in the Big tenies, they

798
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: can actually get the job done. They're like a year

799
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: removed from them from them being called an elite loser

800
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: by you. So Maryland just needs to prove it to me.

801
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: I'm happy to be wrong about this one, but I'm

802
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: gonna go Michigan State until further notice.

803
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: I need Michigan State's defense to prove to me that

804
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: they are not fully stocked with wacky waving, inflatable arm

805
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: flailing two men that are outside of car dealerships, tye,

806
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: because that is something we're so waiting for after these

807
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: last two weeks. So the combination of Peyton Thorne, missing guys,

808
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: not being able to run the ball, with Kenneth Walker

809
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: now moving on to the NFL, and he was kind

810
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: of a bailout situation that they weren't actually able to

811
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: rush super well. Last year. He was just a home

812
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 1: run hitter that was able to change games, and rightfully

813
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: so was Heisman caliber running back last year was incredible

814
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 1: for the Spartans. Couple that with a defense that rolled

815
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: ten of twelve last week from Minnesota on third downs. Situationally,

816
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: just I don't think they have the guys to get

817
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: it done, especially with the lack of favors the offense

818
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: is doing them. This might be a situation where Vegas

819
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: is still playing catch up on the depths to the

820
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: seafloor that Michigan State may be falling this year as

821
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: they try to turn in Terps a defense. I'm worried

822
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: about the Terps a little on that side, just because

823
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: I think Talia and Rakim Jared are game time decisions. Yep.

824
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: So that has me a little bit scared. But the

825
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: games at home and there is that team that Vegas

826
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: takes a while to catch up to, and I'm the

827
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: ugliness of that. The Washington game and the Minnesota game

828
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: two teams who I think are good. I'm going Maryland here,

829
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm going.

830
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: Terps final game in this window, and then we'll move

831
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: to the nightcap Texas A and M at Mississippi State.

832
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: Mississippi State favored by three and a half.

833
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 2: You made a comment on yesterday's show about Georgia Tech

834
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 2: that I have internalized something to the effect of knowing

835
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: what you are steering into it with the next chapter

836
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: of their football program.

837
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: But I think that applies throughout all of life.

838
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 2: Dan, know what you are, be self aware, work with

839
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: your strengths, and try to try to improve under weaknesses. Right, agreat,

840
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: let me tell you who I am? Dan, Who are you?

841
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: I am a guy who's never picked Texas A and

842
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 2: M or Mississippi State. Correctly, I've never picked one of

843
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: the I don't know if anybody's got data on this.

844
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: I know we have some verballers who track it would

845
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 2: probably take a lot of legwork to go back and

846
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: find out. I have to believe that my winning percentage

847
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 2: when one of these two teams is involved is something

848
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: like four percent. I never ever get these games right,

849
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: So I'm deferring you.

850
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: Who do you got? It's a letdown, look ahead sandwich

851
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: situation with A and M between Arkansas and Bama? Is

852
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: that correct? Correct? Not that Mississippi State is a look

853
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: ahead team. You don't look ahead, and they lost this

854
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: game last year in kind of ugly fashion. I'm going

855
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: Mississippi State here, I'm going Mississippi State here because I

856
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: think the key ways in which you can get this

857
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: State team is big plays through the air. And I'm

858
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: not there with A and M. No, I'm just not

859
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: I think there. And you know how I feel about

860
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: Mississippi State. I'm probably always a little too high on them.

861
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: But in this case, the games in Starkville? Is it not?

862
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: Game is in Starkville? Correct? The current number is current

863
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: number is three and a half in favor of State.

864
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: I kind of if the viewpoint is that these two

865
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: teams are relatively close, I think I'm taking Mike Leach

866
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: in a three minute spot. Then I'm more likely to

867
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: take Max Johnson and Jimbo. Right. Look, am I crazy?

868
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 2: I'm telling you no, You're not crazy, because I'm always wrong.

869
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: I am always wrong with these two teams right all

870
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 2: the time. So just go with your gut and then

871
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 2: go the other way. So what does your gut say?

872
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: My gut says Texas A and M okay, so takes State.

873
00:45:59,560 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: There it is.

874
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Nightcaps. Seven thirty ABC, NC State

875
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: at Clemson. Both teams are four to zero, Clemson favored

876
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: by six and a half points. Now, of note, it

877
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 2: looks like rain looks like wind on Saturday night, which

878
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: is not great for the passing game on either side.

879
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: Both sides are good enough to contain the other's rushing attack,

880
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: so this at least if you have factor that in.

881
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 2: I'm not saying there're gonna be torential downpours. I don't

882
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 2: think it's gonna look like that Notre Dame Clemson game

883
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: that I watched way back when from a wedding. It's

884
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: not gonna look like that, but it's gonna be sloppy

885
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: and so at least on the surface, this kind of

886
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: profiles as an ugly game with not a lot of points,

887
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: where six and a half could be too many.

888
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: I'm taking NC State because I think it's going to

889
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: be and I don't know if it's a weather thing,

890
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's a quarterback thing. I

891
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: believe Dju is improved. I don't think it gets a

892
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: lot of help. I don't think his offensive line is

893
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: especially good. I don't think his running game and it's

894
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 1: not a Will Shipley thing. I just don't think they

895
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: are operating to their potential. And I don't think the

896
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: receiving caliber is great and where it has been so

897
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: even though I don't love NC State's offense, I think

898
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: and I don't put them in the category that they're

899
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: also a boggy death lagoon whatever I called Iowa.

900
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: This could be a boggy something. Depending on they might

901
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: get like an inch of veign throughout the course of

902
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 2: the day.

903
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: I'm taking NC State here. I am taking NC State

904
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: here because I am more confident in their ability to

905
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: succeed in totality. On defense, I have no idea how

906
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: good Clemson's defense is, though I have some concerns about

907
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: the secondary and pass rush in this very specific moment.

908
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, too many points. I think it's going to

909
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: be close either way. So I'm going to go with State.

910
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: I am on State as well. I think if there's

911
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 2: potential for a mudfest, you know, Dabbo wins those types

912
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 2: of games. I'm not saying he's going to lose outright,

913
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: but potentially U game. NC State's solid. They've definitely underwhelmed,

914
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 2: Let's be clear, they've definitely underwhelmed, especially an offense this season. Yeah,

915
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 2: but there's solid there's solid team, and a solid team

916
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: in a big spot. You know they'll be up for it.

917
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: Maybe the weather effects it, maybe it doesn't, but I

918
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: just think it's close, so same, I'm gonna take those

919
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 2: points happily.

920
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: Give me a six and a half.

921
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: Also, LSU minus eight and a half points at Auburn,

922
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 2: which feels like a lot. What's crazy is that Auburn's

923
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: three and one. Their only loss is to a team

924
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 2: in our verball or top ten Penn State mm hmm.

925
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 2: And still we're basically counting down until Brian Harson gets fired.

926
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 2: It feels like every week is this gonna be the week?

927
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: Now?

928
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: They won last week, they got a little bit of luck,

929
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: but they won last week. They're three and one. I

930
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: was trying to think, has there ever been a mid

931
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: season performance based firing when a team has a winning record? Ooh,

932
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 2: interesting question. I can't think of on the top of

933
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: my head. Performance based, not some sort of like you know,

934
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 2: NCAA infraction we're doing, we're doing an investigation after a

935
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 2: bombshell report type of thing. But three and one, you know,

936
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: I mean, have they underwhelmed? Yeah, the quarterback position is

937
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: still a mess. They definitely have issues, but they're only

938
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: loss is to a pretty good team, and eight and

939
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 2: a half in this case feels like a lot to me.

940
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 2: It's not like LC's ironclad.

941
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: LC.

942
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 2: We like LSU a great deal. We both feel pretty

943
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: good about LSU, and I think they're going to continue

944
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 2: to improve. But eight and a half at night, Nah,

945
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: I'll take Auburn here, dumb, dumb.

946
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: You just Auburn is a cover Shirpa. If you're worried

947
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: about covering a spread against Auburn, Tigers will help you out.

948
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: Are you saying there? Or the cure for the common

949
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: point spread?

950
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: What it is?

951
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: They're all four against the spread? They and wins disappoint

952
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: and losses disappoint. They are disappointments. Right, You're not just

953
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: mad you're disappointed. You're not mad, you're disappointed. I think

954
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: LSU this is again, it's the cure for the sloppiness

955
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: quotion that LSU has played with at times, the inconsistencies

956
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: and offense and dreadful special teams in that isolated nightmare.

957
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure for LSU fans, I think they comfortably win

958
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: this game by seventeen to twenty four points. Seventeen to

959
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: twenty four points, yeah, can we make a bet on

960
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: that side? Bet? Like do you want to go with

961
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: a different spread? Like? Are you trying to say, like,

962
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 1: I'll give you LSU minus ten, I mean ovin, I'll give.

963
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: You LSU minus eight and a half. I'll give you

964
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 2: the actual point spread.

965
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: So what are we betting. We're gonna meet in New York.

966
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 2: We are going to meet in New York. Maybe we

967
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 2: can throw this one out to the folks on Patreon. Yeah,

968
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: and on theres some mistakes. Yeah, let us know nothing crazy.

969
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: We're not shaving heads, not getting tattoos, right, But yeah,

970
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what there is to

971
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: like about Auburn. And like they beat San Jose State

972
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: and Mercer and Missoo on a freak occurrence at the end. Okay,

973
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: demolished by Penn State at home they did to get

974
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: demolished by Penn State. Penn State hasn't been able to

975
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: run the ball in seventy three years, and Auburn was

976
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: the cure for that. Was Penn State able to run? Though?

977
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: Who they have last week Central Michigan. Yeah, I think

978
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: Nick Singleton had like seventeen feet of rushing yardage. Awful,

979
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: I know what I'm saying. When your team is unable

980
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: to do a very specific thing and then they roll

981
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: into Jordan her and do it all the time. Auburt's

982
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: not good? All right?

983
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: Okay, three more games very quickly here, yeah, late late night,

984
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: ten thirty ESPN, Arizona State going to USC. Just throwing

985
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 2: this one out there just because USC is always notable.

986
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 2: US is a twenty six point favorite.

987
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: I mean, is there any reason go ASU? No, that's

988
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: the operative question. If you're going to take points in

989
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: any scenario, you have to have an answer. You have

990
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: to be able to defend your choice with something that

991
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: team can do to stay competitive ish, and I don't

992
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: have that for as.

993
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: I don't have that, you know what. I had a

994
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 2: circumstance like this a couple of weeks ago when Arizona

995
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 2: State played Oklahoma State and I that same logic applied,

996
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: Same logic applied. Yeah, and I took as when I

997
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: got burnt, Oklahoma State want and covered.

998
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to pull that on. To be clear,

999
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: you're Pack twelve wild card Arizona.

1000
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: Thank you for bringing that up. Yeah, of course appreciate that.

1001
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: I did once pick Arizona State to go to the playoff,

1002
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 2: not this year, and that also failed. Yeah, that's okay,

1003
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 2: It's me and Kirk Kurbstreem.

1004
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: You just love that area. You love the valley. I

1005
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: love them so much down there in Phoenix. Yeah, we

1006
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 1: just have hills here in PA Mountains. I know, cool man.

1007
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 1: You love the desert, the living desert.

1008
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 2: Do I do all right? Eleven PM Stanford against Oregon.

1009
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: Oregon favored by seventeen points.

1010
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you feel about that? Pretty good? Pretty

1011
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,479
Speaker 1: good because of the way they came out at home

1012
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: against BYU and that they game plan well, like they

1013
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: were able to move the ball the entirety of the

1014
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: Wazoo game, and you look at when Wazoo is able

1015
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: to move the ball. It was a lot of trick

1016
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: plays and screens and crazy freak plays from Cameron Ward.

1017
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: Like Oregon's defense adjusted well enough in that game. And

1018
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: Stanford's not good. That's the other thing now Stanford, but

1019
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: also Stanford's not good, but also number two. Stanford does

1020
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: have a specific advantage in that Tanner McKee can stand tall,

1021
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: he's relatively accurate, and Oregon's pass rush hasn't been incredible.

1022
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: The secondary they have a really good corner but by

1023
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: and large, which the past defense hasn't been great with

1024
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: what BYU was able to do advancing the ball, even

1025
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: though they weren't able to finish drives against Oregon. That

1026
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: Stanford has some big receivers. I think E. J. Smith

1027
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: is now out for the year, though they're starting running back.

1028
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: It's unfortunate. I just don't think Stanford has that ability

1029
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: to carry it out over four quarters. So yeah, I'm

1030
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: gonna give the points here, not confidently, but there's not

1031
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: enough there for Stanford, especially when you look at this

1032
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: defense and how they were you know, gash by USC

1033
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: for a chunk of that game, gash by Washington. Although

1034
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 1: they handled Washington better than Michigan State. Well, most people

1035
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: are going to do more good things than Michigan State.

1036
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: I think ultimately, yeah, this is this is going to

1037
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: be a net crack matchup situation for Oregon because of

1038
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: how you know they lose last year and the weird

1039
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: ways that they do without Joe moorehead. They've lost a

1040
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: lot of strange games to Stanford. I'm taking Oregon here

1041
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,959
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give those points to to sort of.

1042
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: Shake off some of that rusty neck crack a net crack.

1043
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 2: There we go, Oh there it is, get that in there,

1044
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 2: reset that joint. Finally, let's close it out with Friday

1045
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: you mentioned there were a couple of interesting matchups on Friday.

1046
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: The one that I've got highlighted here is Washington on

1047
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 2: the road minus three at UCLA. But we've also got

1048
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 2: Tulane Houston, which is interesting for a number of reasons,

1049
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 2: UTSA against Middle Tennessee, San Diego State against Boise State,

1050
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 2: and we'll just throw in New Mexico against UNLV Maybe

1051
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 2: not quite the headliner now, but five games there in

1052
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 2: the Friday evening slot, Dan, starting with Washington UCLA, Who

1053
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 2: do you got?

1054
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: This is interesting? I think I'm gonna go Ucla here,

1055
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: and I don't love UCLA, but situationally, Washington has looked

1056
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: very strong and I think they are a good program.

1057
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: But I think situationally late at night, Ucla the ability

1058
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: to playoffense, which, like we can say this about a

1059
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: number of teams, like we think Washington is good, but

1060
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: their schedule and the games that have occurred with those

1061
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: teams surrounding the Washington games can leave some doubt in

1062
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: our minds. So like, has Washington played somebody? Do we

1063
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: know what Washington actually is? I think this would go

1064
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,760
Speaker 1: a long way if Washington is if they're comfortable winners

1065
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: in this game against Ucla. I think that that's a

1066
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: good measuring stick because at their best, Ucla is interesting. Obviously,

1067
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 1: they can play down to South Alabama and the Jags.

1068
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: They absolutely can. I'm gonna go Ucla here. I'm gonna

1069
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: go Ucla at home late night, ability to run the ball,

1070
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: kind of hate UCLA's defense, but ignoring that, I'm gonna

1071
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: go Ucla. Yeah, I think the more interesting bed is

1072
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: actually the over over under his sixty four and a

1073
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: half points.

1074
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 2: I could see this, Oh, I like that. I could

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Speaker 2: see this one being a shootout, a lot of points

1076
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 2: one way or the other. I've seen a lot of

1077
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: folks on Ucla for this game, so you're you're not

1078
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: minority by any stretch. My inclination is to say Washington

1079
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: because they've looked so damn impressive this year, and I

1080
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 2: just feel like it's a different regime. It's a different yeah,

1081
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 2: vibe all together around this team, but situationally, could do better.

1082
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: Also could do better. I hesitated. I'm trying to figure

1083
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: out the right way to phrase this. But we have

1084
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: been a party to the Michael Pennox experience that for

1085
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: every game, for every two games, for every three games,

1086
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: there is a four yards per attempt kind of matchup

1087
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: that we're trying to like assess the data and the

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00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: elite losing of Indiana with the more sound Kaylin de

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00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: Boor experience at Washington thus far. There's just things that

1090
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: we're putting into the stockpot where they're evaluating this game.

1091
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: The other thing we should mention Kent State, Portland State,

1092
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: Michigan State, and Stanford. Yeah, that's what I'm saying that, like,

1093
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: we are likely thinking Washington is good and that they

1094
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: have performed like a good team should against that schedule

1095
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: because they've left no doubt.

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00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 2: No, they've been very, very solid in Yeah, it's not

1097
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: been smoking mirrors.

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Speaker 1: But this is the type of win that a potentially

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00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: more established program gets away with. And I still think

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00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna Man, I just think Washington's good, So that

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00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: makes it really difficult. But I'm going Ucla situationally because

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Speaker 1: of the weird Friday night, there's gonna be eleven people

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00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: at this game. It's gonna throw them off. Washington's used

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00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: to a much more full stadium. Like if you're in LA,

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00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: even if you're a UCLA fan and you live nowhere

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00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: near Pasadena, are you canceling your Friday night plans to

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00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: do something else, to go to the Rose Bowl to

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00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: see UCLA Washington drive across town. I don't know it's

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00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: gonna be an like Washington's a real program, their ranked team.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's gonna be a weird environment.

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00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: All right, any other games here that you want to

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00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: throw out before we put a bow on this guy?

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00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: So I have Navy Air Force, so we have Commander's

1114
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: Commander in Chief's Trophy in locations, of course, and maybe

1115
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: coming off of a win is least interesting. But they're

1116
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: going to altitude. I know you have a sound Georgia

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00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: Southern Coastal. Obviously Georgia Southern goes down to UAB after

1118
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: beating Nebraska. But I think this is gonna be a

1119
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: fun back and forth Cal Washington State for maybe third

1120
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Speaker 1: tier PAC twelve supremacy, something fourth tier Pack twelve supremacy.

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00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: I think Washington State's a clear better team, but in

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00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: a letdown spot after getting that close against Oregon and

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00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: Cal can run the ball. Now, Dan says questionably, not

1124
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: Cincinnati at Tulsa. Cincinnati clearly the better team, but what

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00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: does Tulsa do? They beat clearly better teams at least

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00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: once a year. Just keep an eye on that. That's

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00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. West Virginia, Texas Quinn Eewers is maybe

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00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: we don't know the status of that. And West Virginia

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00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: I like pieces, I'm a little bit worried. I think

1130
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: their offense is improved. I still don't love their line

1131
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: defense is fine. That's a weird game. That's just a

1132
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: weird Virginia duke is Riley Leonard for real? Is duke

1133
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: driving to six? This Virginia is one of the games

1134
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: that duke people are counting on. So there's that. Sunday,

1135
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: by the way, is Eastern Washington, Florida and smu UCF.

1136
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: And I actually think the ladder of those two is

1137
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: pretty interesting. So that's something if you're not an NFL

1138
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: person and you find yourself on a couch. Su UCF

1139
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: not the worst option. Can John Rice Plumbley keep winning

1140
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: with help being able to throw the ball as a

1141
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: quarterback who knows drop some big stanky drum at five? Please?

1142
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: Oh right, it's pre league lighting around.

1143
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: Let's do it, Dan, I'm ready. Twelve o'clock monmth, squaring

1144
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: off against the Lehigh Mountain Hawks who you got? I

1145
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: don't pick a Lee High, no, MONI absolutely give me

1146
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: the mouth. Let's go.

1147
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 2: One pm Cornell on the road at Colgate Dan Yeah,

1148
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 2: Colgate one in three so far this year.

1149
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me the Nellies. Sorry, now you know I don't.

1150
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: Oh no, this is not this is not Cornell. Yeah,

1151
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: this is a different nell This is Nellie's two, this.

1152
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 2: Big red Okay, yeah, I got the big bearer hugging

1153
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 2: the star dug.

1154
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, go Cornell.

1155
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: One pm holy Cross at four and oh, squaring off against.

1156
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: Had had two and O. Who you got? Is this

1157
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: at Fenway Park as you've listed it? This game is

1158
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: not at Fenway Park. That's too bad. I'm going with Crossaders.

1159
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm rolling cross Saders. You know how I roll. I'll

1160
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: go Crossaders as well.

1161
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 2: One pm Georgetown at one in three away from multi

1162
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 2: sport field, squaring off against the Fordham Rams, New York's

1163
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 2: one true team four.

1164
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Speaker 1: To minus anything. You know how I roll? Yeah, I'm

1165
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: in that photos Coca Loutas, I forget how loss how

1166
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: do you say his name? Sorry? I rolled it. Photos.

1167
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 2: It's just photos, fotus. It's like Pele or shared.

1168
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: Just one word.

1169
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah and last, but not least as we bring the

1170
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,919
Speaker 2: music down, oh Man Lafayette on the road at buck Now,

1171
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 2: any reason to not go yetti here?

1172
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: No, I'm going yetty And just judging by the sheer

1173
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: number of women you've dated from Eastern Pa, how do

1174
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: you go against it? I mean that's all. Yeah, I'll

1175
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: go left, you, we'll go yet I'm a leopard legacy,

1176
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: all right.

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01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 2: If you are out and about, if you cannot imbibe

1178
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 2: all that is college football goodness in week five and

1179
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 2: you find yourself running errands, picking up kids or knows where.

1180
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: It's the weekend. These things happen if you're normal.

1181
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: Unlike Dan and I listen to the College Football Bullitz.

1182
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 2: It is on your radio dial on the Varsity Network

1183
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 2: app which pre to download, or you can listen to

1184
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 2: espn U radio channel eighty four on serious XM. It

1185
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 2: is in effect the NFL red Zone for college football.

1186
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 2: You get twelve hours of coverage every Saturday, starting at

1187
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,919
Speaker 2: noon Eastern. It runs all the way until midnight. Here

1188
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 2: is what they do. What's cool about this is because

1189
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 2: they can they zoom into different games. You get to

1190
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 2: hear hometown coverage of all the big plays. You hear

1191
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 2: fifty six minutes of live commentary per hour. There's only

1192
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 2: three minutes of commercial breaks. So if you like college football,

1193
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: if you really enjoy that sort of hometown feel, to

1194
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 2: take in the vibe, the atmosphere truly understand what's going on.

1195
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: In a game. If you can't be in front of your.

1196
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 2: Television, college Football Blitz is where you go to hear

1197
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 2: the touchdowns happen, called by some of the hometown radio guys,

1198
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 2: hosted by our friend Steven Hartzel. No One lovingly here

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Speaker 2: as Stevie's speed Run does a fantastic job. The entire

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Speaker 2: production crew behind that operation is their wizards, so I

1201
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 2: don't know how they do this.

1202
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: I like to picture, even though I know it's not

1203
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: technologically true. I like to picture Stevie's speed Run behind

1204
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: one of those giant, old fashioned operator switchboards, just kind

1205
01:03:59,320 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: of where.

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Speaker 3: He's just unplugging plug. Oh my god, it's close to

1207
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 3: Colorado State. Oh my god, it's close to cal and

1208
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 3: he is using physical some sort of cables to plug

1209
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 3: physical cables into the switchboard and to the interface so

1210
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 3: that we can go live to see what's happening in Pullman.

1211
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Speaker 1: I don't know how he does.

1212
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: I have no idea how he does it. And it's

1213
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: not just him other folks who who kind of pitch

1214
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 2: in throughout the course of the day because he's only

1215
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: one man with so much energy.

1216
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Speaker 1: We all pope.

1217
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 2: I just I don't get how it's even possible to

1218
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 2: do what they do. Anyway, I'm waxing poetic here. Listen

1219
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 2: to the College Football Blitz and do an awesome, amazing job.

1220
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 2: They're they're dependable partners of us here. We love all

1221
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 2: things College Football Blitz and the kind things that they

1222
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 2: have to say about us as well. So yeah, that

1223
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Speaker 2: is all I have. Don't forget. Solid Giveaway dot Com

1224
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Speaker 2: is where you can go and sign up for a CJ.

1225
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Speaker 2: Stroud signed mini helmet. Don't forget to go on out

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Speaker 2: solverable live dot com if you like this show. If

1227
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Speaker 2: you're on the fence, just know that there is a

1228
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 2: chance our live show on Friday, October the seventh could

1229
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 2: horribly go off the tracks.

1230
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is.

1231
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 2: A degree of difficulty with doing this game show that

1232
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 2: we have not fully expressed here in audio only.

1233
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: It's going to be so fun. I can't wait. It's

1234
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: gonna be great. I'm not worried about it. That at all.

1235
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 2: I can't wait. These are the things that I worry about.

1236
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 2: I know, I know, and I'm I'm I'm a little

1237
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: worried it could happen.

1238
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: We need to do a secret verbal soon, do we not?

1239
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: Do we have done on this scenes? Do it now?

1240
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: Do you have any recipient ideas? I'm always good for

1241
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: the actual message. Do you have any recipient ideas?

1242
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 2: Why don't we throw this out to the folks who

1243
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 2: are watching the live stream. If there are any suggestions,

1244
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 2: just write them in. We haven't done a secret verbal

1245
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 2: in quite some time. Explain for the fine folks what

1246
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 2: a secret verbal is, Dann.

1247
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: A secret verbal is when we at the end of

1248
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: the show, to ensure that people are still paying attention,

1249
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: we are going to tell you to tweet a secret

1250
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: message at somebody, and you will not say where the

1251
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: instructions have come from. So if we're to say, okay,

1252
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: tweet Ty hilden Brand, thanks for the back massage, it

1253
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,479
Speaker 1: really worked. Yeah, and then Tie is inundated with people

1254
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: saying thanks for the back massage, it really worked. Yeah,

1255
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: we can use that specific for the back massage. Yeah, thanks,

1256
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: thanks again for the back massage. Never felt better. Who

1257
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: do you want who who would be that recipient?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I want that one. To be honest,

1259
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 2: people might be made uncomfortable by that. Yeah, that's the

1260
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 2: whole point that that implication.

1261
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Speaker 1: Didn't we have people accused will Leach of eating orca meat.

1262
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Speaker 2: We did have people accused will Leach of eating orca.

1263
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody you know is checking their mentions.

1264
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 2: Should we get another podcaster, another collegorotball podcaster? Who you

1265
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 2: want to get? Alex, Alex Kirshner, Alex Kirshner and Alex

1266
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 2: yet Alex does a great job over Yeah, he's great.

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Speaker 2: Alex Underscore Kirshner k I R s A n e R.

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Speaker 1: What are we selling one more time?

1269
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: It is Alex a l e X Underscore Kirshner k

1270
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 2: I R s h n e R. Give folks their

1271
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 2: instructions here.

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01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: And you really don't want to do the massage? I

1273
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: mean you can if you want. I just don't. I

1274
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to be weird for people.

1275
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Speaker 1: I think it's great. Thank Alex Kirshner for the back

1276
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: massage and say it really seemed to work out.

1277
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:28,479
Speaker 2: The knots okay again, do not mention the solid verbal

1278
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 2: do not do not.

1279
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: Mention nos all just just without prompting, tweeted Alex thanks

1280
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: again for the killer back massage. You really worked out

1281
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: all the knots. I feel like a new person, all right.

1282
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Speaker 2: That does it, folks, We appreciate everybody. Stop it on bye.

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Speaker 2: If you've made it this far, why not peek in

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Speaker 2: at five pm five pm East, two pm West. This

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Speaker 2: show drops Thursday morning for the general public, though some

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Speaker 2: of our folks at overballers dot com are either listening live,

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Speaker 2: watching live getting access to this early. You can too

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Speaker 2: if you're going out to our Patreon, But if you are,

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know, in the market for some live college football talk.

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Speaker 2: There are gonna be games on Thursday. We got all

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Speaker 2: sorts of things to discuss about the week ahead. We've

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Speaker 2: got a fun game that I'm very excited about that

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Speaker 2: we can discuss in a little bit more detail as

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Speaker 2: things get closer, as we're actually in the throes of this.

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Speaker 2: But it should be fun. College football Thursdays.

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Speaker 1: Only on Spotify. Go to solid Reuel dot com, slash Spotify.

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Speaker 2: Dan Boom love it for that guy over there, my

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Speaker 2: good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, tie Hildebrand. Thanks again

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Speaker 2: for downloading, listening, supporting the show. We will talk to

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Speaker 2: you all soon. In the meantime, enjoy your week five.

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Speaker 2: Stay safe, stay happy, stay solid.

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Speaker 1: Peace