WEBVTT - Conversations About Female Athletes 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:04.360 Watch up and welcome back to another episode and no 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.520 Seillers podcast with your host. Now funk that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:17.599 low glasses Malone. I did a podcast about a week 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:21.360 or two ago with one of my partners, Concrete. Concrete 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:25.680 is a super funny uh Mexican comedian, really funny, and 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:29.640 he produces He has a podcast studio and he produces 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:34.600 a sports podcast. Um. The name of the podcast I 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.720 sent you some of the stuff I saw it. Yeah, 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:42.320 the name of that podcast, hold on and I'm gonna 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:49.479 tell you is take Shot Sports. And you lived up 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:54.800 to the name first. So this is no seilings, g 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:58.400 l glasses low in my man, p B. Peter Boss. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.240 As usual, while we're doing well, we do up in 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:05.640 this stag. So on this take Shot Sports. Right. Um. 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.400 I was doing a podcast and they were asking me 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.760 about the w n b A. And he's like, man, gee, 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.720 what do you think about this? Just for the audience, 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.959 what is the w n b A. The w n 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:24.440 B as the Women's National Basketball Association. It's interesting, yes, 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:29.920 go on. So they were asking me what did I 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:33.280 think was wrong with the w n b A, And 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:38.920 I was like, uh, women don't support women in sports 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:41.679 like they don't support women in sports. They do the 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.200 worst job of supporting each other in real life, let 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:51.320 alone in sports. Right, And it became this long conversation 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:53.800 and then our like, it's like, what would it take 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:58.280 to to um to get the w NBA to pop? 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.800 I said, you would need Lebron James to become a 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:06.280 trans athlete and go over and become Lebron and James 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:08.040 and play in the w n B A. It could 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:11.120 be when he retires or whatever, but that's how you 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.920 make it pop. You need a professional NBA player that 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:18.760 somebody celebrated or just somebody who really people revere in 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:23.119 in basketball and male basketball to go over. And long 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.880 story short, somebody, one of my home girls see the 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:29.320 podcast and she's like, oh, gee, man, you know you 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:35.080 don't have enough respect for female athletes. And I just 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:42.600 start thinking about it, like, males watch the NBA. That's 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:47.040 who drives the NBA. Men, correct, Men watch men play 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:52.800 basketball because we care about what gifted athletes of of 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.720 you know, the male species can do, so we we 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:59.799 are intrigued by it. It It creates camparaderie, It creates 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.840 a level of conflict that time, you know, it creates 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:07.280 more excitement to this thing we call life. Why are 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:13.720 women not? Why do women? Why aren't women you know, 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:17.960 more intrigue with women's sports because women aren't into sports 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:22.640 by and large anyway, So regardless of who's playing, if 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.520 you aren't into sports, it's not gonna make much of 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:28.360 a difference. Unfortunately, I think maybe two of them, the 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:33.400 two biggest gaps in the genders for viewership and audience 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:38.080 stuff in sports is like the NBA and probably boxing. 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.480 You know you're not gonna get up women's boxing match 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.880 is gonna do numbers like what Fury Joshua fight before 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.600 he got next and he lost, was going to potentially 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:52.360 do you know, I don't think it's and it's a 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:57.720 big it's a huge woman's fight coming like in the 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:02.880 next sixty days. Clarisias Shields, who's probably the best female 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.240 boxer in the history of boxing. She's a two time 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.680 gold medalist. She's out of Flint, Michigan super those sister, 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:13.440 two times old medalists, three or four weight divisions, undisputed 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:17.560 in two like ship that has never happened in boxing ever. 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:21.960 She's accomplished in less than twenty fights, right, and she's 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.280 fighting the only person to beat her in the Amateurs 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.359 a lady who's a champion I think at one sixty 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.760 or one sixty eight named Savannah Marshall. It's a white 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:35.240 lady and it's a black lady. It's the exact same 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:39.159 plot as the Great White Hype or the only fight 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.799 that whichever ways it was that was playing the champion 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:44.880 had lost us to the white guy back when he 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:50.840 was an amateur. You know, they would do such a 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.960 better job of marketing it. And maybe they are because 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.479 the fight is you know, in England. You know, it's 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:02.560 overseas because Savanna half of the billion. This it's not 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.240 it's not touching a half a billion, it's not touching 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.120 a tenth of a half a billion. Well, I mean, 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.400 it may say out though too this the rena over there. 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:16.760 Maybe Okay, they're making some progress. That's the point I'm 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.080 making for sure, for sure, you know, I mean, and 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.120 and I am a treat like I'm going to watch 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.960 that fight because again you're right, it is the same 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:28.280 plight as as the gray Height where it's like, oh, 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:30.400 this is the only person who beat her, and this lady, 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.120 this is white. Savannah Marshall is a puncher like she's 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:37.200 not like Clarisian Shields is. She she's a good professional, 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:41.039 but her style she's a little slappy and amateurish at times. 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.320 I mean, not not forgetting that's wrong, because she's like 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.520 literally the greatest boxer ever, but she doesn't it's not 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.640 always a not a finisher. She's a point fighter, really 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.080 good though, I mean, and she tries to person attention, 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:56.000 but Savannah Marshall got stops and again we can talk 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.520 about the quality of opposition she is as a pro. 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.760 But I'm in a rested in the fight. But I 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.240 think these are the moments right where you have the 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:07.560 right type of fights. Yet they aren't being marketed it. 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.280 You know, they excuse they aren't being marketed as great 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.360 as they could. Like this is a black lady from 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:16.719 American a white lady from England. This has the makings 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:21.680 to be brilliantly you know, big fight for women's boxing. 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.200 But I just I'm looking at it and I'm like, yo, 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.680 like you're not. Where is the magic happening? You know, 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:32.440 create the magic around it? Yeah, I mean this is 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:36.240 the NBA pretty much created their whole status right now 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:41.480 off of Larry Bird and Magic Johnson. Yeah, yeah, it's 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:49.280 that rivalry people. I think between college basketball and in 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.760 the NBA and stuff. By the end of the seventies, 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:57.600 we're familiar with basketball. People are familiar with boxing, for sure, 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.400 but they're not particularly familiar with women's body thing. It's 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:08.760 difficult to market an introduction campaign. Mm hmm. They still 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:13.200 still the fight, like, how is UFC? How is UFC 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:18.080 able to you know? Market? Uh? What's the lady name? 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:25.760 Who got all that creatively? Rhonda Rousing? I think that 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:30.520 was in part she rode the wave of the ascent 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.320 of the UFC. The UFC doesn't have like we talked 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:38.280 about this a while ago, where in pro boxing, so 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:42.080 many of the main big prime super fights happened past 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.960 prime because the longer that a person is a star, 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:50.320 the greater the gravity of their stardom is. So you 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:54.040 don't lose value kicking a fight down the road because 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.360 the two people only become more familiar to more and 0:07:56.400 --> 0:08:01.400 more people. The UFC, it's almost like, I mean ship 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.240 in my lifetime, the UFC has gone like just cycled 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.480 through superstars almost on like a year, year and a 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.600 half basis. Other than that Irish guy who kind of 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:12.160 takes time off and comes back, you know, like Chuckle 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.600 Dwell was the greatest thing for like a year, then 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:16.680 another guy was the greatest thing for like a year. 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.400 You know. They don't have these five six, seven year 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:27.440 long windows Superstar. The actual association itself is the star. Yeah. 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.440 People are more fans of the teams in football, you know. 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.079 And I think in UFC was became a fan of 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:36.000 the UFC and whoever was on that was good enough 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:40.920 for them. So you think Rhonda Rousing really was just 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.000 within the shuffle of them selecting somebody knew to get 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.679 by on for a small period of time. Yeah. I 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:48.199 think that there was a lot of novelty to the 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.440 UFC and its growth, which is kind of what made 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:54.320 it popular, and then there was novelty within novelty. I 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:58.640 think like right now, if if Rhonda Rowsey, say two 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:00.880 or three years ago, if a if Rohn Da Rousey 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:06.280 happened to in novel fashion come onto the scene in 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:10.960 that in that regard, after the UFC was really established, 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:12.640 people are really used to it and people were really 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:14.160 fans and stuff like that, not just like wow, these 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:15.640 people are beating the ship out of each other and 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.000 not really knowing much about it. I don't think she 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:21.600 would have gotten much traction. Yeah, but isn't Amanda noon 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:26.000 Ye is doing really well there now, I don't think 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:32.679 she's doing Rhonda Rousey. Popular is definitely you know, an anomaly, 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:36.720 you know, ouside, which is weird because Venus and Serena. 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.199 I think tennis is more of a sport that people 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:43.800 pay respect to women in. I think historically Now I 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.600 don't quote me if you listen and it is. But 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:51.040 I'm just going off a small recollection. I have no 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.800 experience at this. I've never looked it up. But growing up, 0:09:54.840 --> 0:10:01.240 I always remember female tennis players hearing names. It wasn't 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:05.040 just ever about Arthur ash or you know, Andre Agassi 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:08.600 or McEnroe. I will hear the women's names coming up 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:15.880 and the sports. You know, Graph is a tennis player, right, 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:20.080 Stephie Graph, Martina Ratalova, Chris Everett, Billy jenne King, all 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:21.679 the way back. I mean, that's what I was saying. 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:26.319 Boxing and basketball have the two greatest gaps. Whereas for 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.320 for people who are tracking field people, there's no one 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:30.800 who's like a men's track and field fan. Only people 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:34.320 like men's and women's track. People like men's and women's volleyball. 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.600 Typically people like men's and women's tennis for sure, and 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:41.200 even swimming to the seasonal Olympic whatever. People are like, 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.839 I only want to watch the men's freestyle. They want 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:47.559 to watch both. It's just basketball and boxing. Jo Jackie, 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:53.160 Jordany Kersey and Trey. Yeah, flow Joe, the you know, 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:58.679 all the crushing Joe or Jackie is what flow Joe? 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:04.280 She went to Jordan's she yeah, yeah, yeah. So so 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.280 you're saying it's the sport itself that's holding women back 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:15.760 in that's particular sport. I think that. So we've we've 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:21.480 eliminated simply why women aren't into you know, w NBA. 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:25.320 Why aren't the same men that you know just like 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:27.720 me and watched tennis, you know, because I agree me 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.839 and watch both right there, they'll watch Serena and Venus 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:34.040 kick ass like they'll watch McEnroe or one of those 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:38.680 kick as. It just came to me, here's the reason. 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:44.560 The w I'm sorry, the UFC had Rhonda Rousey and 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:50.199 Chuck or was it lessner like the w W yeah 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.079 or whoever? The star to you on the men's side 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:59.560 fighting the same day you saw them both. The w 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:03.000 n B A is sort of like the USFL, they 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:06.280 fight in another time of the season, so you have 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.440 to be only a w NBA fan to be a 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.640 w NBA fan, because they don't play at the same time, 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:18.240 same day, same whatever as the NBA for the most part, 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:21.160 whereas in basketball or and and and the events are shorter, 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.200 like it would be a lot to ask to sit 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:27.640 down and watch, like, yeah, like the final four of 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:29.800 the n C Double A, We're gonna watch two games 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.960 of men's and then two games. That's a lot. But 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:37.760 for those other sports, tennis is complementary because for tournament 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:40.480 type settings, they're happening at the same time, so you 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:44.160 can get Federer at two o'clock, you can get Serena 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.800 at four o'clock, and all kind of works. I think 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:49.280 that's part of it. I think another part of it, 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:53.160 quite honestly, people are gonna like this. The U the 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.000 UFC is a little bit of a it's a different 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:59.360 I think viewership, but it's an exception. But boxing and 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:03.600 basketball don't showcase the women as men want to see 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:10.000 them the way tennis and track and volleyball, do you 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:15.520 know what. There is a bit of sexiness too, so 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:18.160 when you see Serena Serena and then playing tennis, they 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:23.280 do have shorter skirts. The things that skirts. They're rocking 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.520 back and forth waiting for the surf to come through. 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.240 Girls as a tiny little things getting in the blocks, 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:29.840 and then they go to set and then you're running 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.560 around booties bouncing all over the place. It's a different 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:36.240 scene than basketball, sure, and women wrestling is always hot. 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:41.560 They grab they've marketed the catfight, and it's a fight. 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.959 It's still the fight. It ain't. It ain't even even 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.400 when it ain't, you know, bull popping out, it's still 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:52.080 the fight. Yeah. Too much punch of each other, Okay, okay, 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.600 so what would it take? So you so yeah, So 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:57.560 you can't do the same day right because you're not 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:01.360 gonna ask somebody watch four hours of hoops, right? Or 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:08.440 what if they broadcast right before a men's game. That's 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.680 not gonna work because they're not possible because you could 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.719 at least watch the fourth quarter of one going into 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.600 the other the same way like the time slot thing 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:21.640 helped friends being right before Seinfeld type ship. But I 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:23.600 think the reality is you gotta put the w NBA 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:27.560 players in the volleyball track outfits. It's the best chance 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.840 they got. I know you don't want to hear it, 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.320 but that's just the best chance they got. I said, 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.120 I mean, whatever the funk you want to hear, I'm 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.320 just telling the truth. So the shorts are tightened though 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.400 they're not tightening up. They're not short enough, and the 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:51.040 tops is too bad. Okay. Is this chauvinistic? Absolutely? Is 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:56.680 it realistic? Absolutely? So you have to cater to why 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:00.960 men watch women, Yeah, because women aren't gonna watch women 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:04.920 with that. I'm not gonna argue with that. Because when 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:09.280 you look at the best female basketball player in the 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:13.520 w n b A, their skills are not as great 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:18.280 as the best man. Their athleticism not even close their athleticism. 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:23.480 They may be as skilled, but they're athleticism. We do 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.440 watch the NBA a lot because of athleticism. It is 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:31.040 a bunch of Superman's. Absolutely, there's there's a mystique to 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.520 male viewership, to watching some guy that can do something 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.560 that you just fucking can't do. I don't think a 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:38.640 lot of people watch the w n b A and go, wow, 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:44.240 I just fucking can't do that. Sure, you know, I 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.440 think even in reality, a lot of people could watch 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.320 well Ship Shelley and Fraser Price ran at ten six. 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:52.800 You know how many people can run a ten six 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.880 men wise, not a lot. In the world of track, 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.320 there's a lot, But in the world of regular people 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.000 it's not a you know how many people can do 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:09.720 a layup? That's facts. So so that's also why, um, 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:13.360 what's the leading name? Um? The tractor sister that run track. 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.880 She Quarity Richardson. She is fast compared to the average 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:20.560 human beings. She's fucking She's not fashion than all the 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:24.760 women or all the men. She's still a ridiculously fast 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.200 human being. Yeah, at this point in my life, I 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:32.720 couldn't train to catcher. I don't think twenty years eighteen 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:34.960 years ago. Yeah, if I made it my primary event 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:36.640 and wanted to be a shitty hundred meter man, I 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:42.560 could have catched her. But why like that? Huh you 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:46.240 don't really have respect for a hundred meters. No, I 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:50.080 would love to do the hundred meters, but I could have, um, 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.720 like my ranking and other events that I work were 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.360 my primary events, I could be better than. If I 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:57.920 was to be in the hundred, I could run as 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:04.160 fast as she could probably run. But I'm like so insignificant. 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:10.119 Oh fuck, Okay, what did you use four hundred hurdles 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.960 and the four hundred like that? That heard of ship 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:16.439 is crazy? Who was the best four heard of running 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.080 of all time? You would never believe it if I 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.520 told her this story. It's it's it's so funny you 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.679 asked for since was a guy who went to use 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:28.160 to a m Kevin Young and ran seven and nobody 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:32.760 could touch it, which is weird because six seconds for 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:37.880 fours with hurdles, so a whole lap, a whole lap 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:43.400 of ten hurdles and point seven seconds absolutely and hurdling 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:48.239 Holy ship and Olympic gold medalists came and went, and 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.480 there was like a twenty year gap damn near where 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:54.480 nobody even got under forty seven flat. And then two 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.480 years ago three guys did it. Four guys did it 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:01.600 actually in the last two years, and one guy last 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:06.479 year because they had the Olympics delayed. This crazy, fucking 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:11.000 lunatic looking white guy from Norway went forty five nine. 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:15.840 It wasn't It was the most amazing thing I had 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:20.040 ever seen. So he is now the reigning world record 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.959 holder in the four hurdles and he's just like an 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:28.160 adrenaline maniac. Never seen anything like him forty five nine, 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:34.240 and that's a quarter of them mile to long. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:39.880 forty nine in an open is well, no, it's it's 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.840 pretty good. Like it's I can't running the forty I 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:46.439 mean I can't run, but I couldn't run forty nine 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.359 when that was my primary event. What was what's the 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.520 fastest in in the open forty five? I mean in open? 0:18:52.560 --> 0:19:02.800 Four oh three? Three oh three guy from South America? Good, yeah, 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:10.800 closer to three, but yeah, like two point nine. And 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:15.000 who was the fastest woman to run fo DS? Women? 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:18.920 The world record was just set again. This this girl 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:23.400 who's American, has broken her own world record seemingly every 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:25.879 time she's walked out doors for the last three years. 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:29.840 And she's an unbelievable talent named Sydney McLaughlin. And she 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:33.639 runs like fifty point five or six, I think was 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.480 the world record. But the women's hurdles are also shorter, 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:40.639 so there's that to consider as well. But even still 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:44.320 a fifty point anything in the menuts hurdles, you're very 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:48.000 very good. And even if you're like if you're a 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:52.240 fifty point four hunderd meter open runner in high school, 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.159 you're pretty good. You're probably the best. When you're on 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:56.240 your high school team, you're probably the best in your league, 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.040 depending on the league that you're in in general speak 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:04.240 in America. So let me ask you a question so 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:09.040 I can say this easy, right, Colarisias Shields being the 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:13.679 best woman boxer today could not be Cornelo Alvarez the 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:17.720 best mail boxer. I don't think it'd be very surprised. Um, 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.719 she can't. I don't think the best you know, m 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:24.840 w NBA player probably can be Jihan Is one on 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:27.879 one or Kevin Durant or Lebron what it wouldn't make 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:33.119 a team, couldn't make the league. Can Serena beat the 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:38.480 best male tennis player? No chance? Okay, I because people, 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:40.280 I think even asked her that, and she was like, no, 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:47.959 the and and she is even metrically And I'm not 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:50.320 trying to say this at all because, like I just 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:53.719 usually the numbers I'm gonna cite are largely served speed. 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:59.040 But a lot of the gap between her service speed 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:02.560 and other women's grades at the time we lived to 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:06.840 male grades at the time is the closest, you know, 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:12.920 I mean, like Monica Sellis, Martina Hinge is, Chris Everett. 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:15.280 I mean Chris Everett at the time would have been 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:22.080 playing opposite probably born Borg. She wasn't serving anything remotely 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:26.320 comparable to bjorn Borg at all. You're saying, you're saying 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:29.480 she is the closest to her male counterparts, but it's 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:33.240 still fall at least in ball velocity. Yeah. The the 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:37.000 problem is I don't think that she's hitting from the 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:39.399 baseline at the velocity, and she can't cover the ground 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:41.640 as athletic as she is, and she's tall, she's five 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:47.240 nine five nine is really small compared to guys. Yeah, 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:51.159 that's a good point. So is it really about or 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:55.640 worth fighting? Like, because I've I've heard them yo bang 0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:58.879 the gong dog on on it, and I'm like, like, 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:01.119 how do you make more money if you're not generating 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:06.320 more money? Well, yeah, I mean it depends. Is a 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:09.679 battle worth fight? It depends on what the goal is. Yeah, 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:13.520 is the goal for if the If the goal is 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:18.080 to get equal viewership from NBA to w n b A, 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:22.240 then you need to figure out a way to make 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:25.720 an equal number of people want to watch by hook 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:28.440 or by crook. You know it's not gonna be basketball. 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:30.680 We've already seen that it's not gonna be basketball that's 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:34.200 not in the film. Think they can have the same 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:37.199 story as Magic and Larry Burg have to competitors that 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:39.679 they bring up from college and create this rivalry to 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:43.320 have people tune in. I'm sure that there's a black 0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:45.639 guy and a white guy somewhere that are vuying to 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:48.199 be the best car salesman in their zip code, but 0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:55.760 nobody cares. How you can marketing to where you can 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:58.720 sell more cars. You could sell some more cars, but 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:05.679 you're not gonna have the popularity the Magic had. I 0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:10.240 just genuinely think they don't support each other women. It's sports. 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:15.280 They don't sports. Women don't support women. And you're walking 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:20.400 around with a Sparks jersey woman, it's people who don't 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:24.000 play basketball that we're Lakers Jersey. It's guys who don't 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.280 play basketball they where Lakers Jersey. But I've never seen 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:31.160 a young girl wear Sparks jersey. Like, why don't moms 0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:35.800 buy their daughters Sparks jerseys for Christmas? Because their kids 0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:38.800 want other things? Probably, I don't mean you could buy 0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:40.960 a kid of Sparks jersey for Christmas. Doesn't they're gonna 0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:47.440 wear it? So you just think the whole basketball thing 0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:49.520 is a wash. I don't think it's a wash. I 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:52.720 think it's just more niche. You know. Sure, the percentage 0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:55.520 of like guys that are into sports, it's very very high. 0:23:55.600 --> 0:24:00.879 The percentage of girls are into sports is not so high. 0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:04.080 Would you say female tennis players are the most successful 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:08.960 as far as all female athletes, Yeah, I think that. 0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:15.400 I think that's true. Um, like celebrated female athlete, more celebrated, 0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:20.560 you know, in America period than than uh Serena Williams. 0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:25.919 I don't think so. And and even from a purse standpoint, 0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:28.480 I don't think so. Like even women's golf ever really 0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:31.800 got traction like that. Yeah, I don't think I really 0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:34.560 know any female golfers that that does seem A lot 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:37.320 of them were like, we're like Korean and Japanese women 0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:40.320 and I'm not gonna this is gonna sound horrible. I 0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:44.120 can't decipher the one from the other golfers. I can 0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:47.879 identify Japan and Korea as countries, but all these different 0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:49.560 golfers they keep flying out here. I don't know who's 0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:56.879 will Yeah, another if you have a female athlete. Women's 0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:59.880 soccer did fairly decently, but I don't know if that's 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:05.560 only because men's soccer in America just did so shitty. Yeah, 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.159 I guess that's the answer. As I went to a 0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:11.320 sporting event, l A shout out to the l a 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:13.920 f C. Real great people over there. My boy watched 0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:18.600 sticks plugged me. I don't like watching soccer on television, 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:25.160 but soccer is the greatest sporting event live I've ever seen. 0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:28.440 I could see that. It was crazy. Is I cannot 0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:32.119 watch on TV? Is the most lame and ship in 0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:34.320 the world to watch on tell I'm not into it 0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.920 is just ship happening and people going back and forth. 0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:40.520 I like watching it when the Spanish announcers because they'd 0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:45.359 be so fired up that should be popping good and 0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:48.760 they But I've watched it and it was it was like, 0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:50.960 it's the worst thing I've ever saw on TV. Like 0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:54.480 I would rather watch baseball on television than watch soccer. 0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:57.440