WEBVTT - #314 Packers Unscripted: Roster rundown 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:20.520 Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:23.079 I am Mike Spofford, sitting next to the one and 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:25.960 only West Hodkuits. We're coming to you here from our 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:29.320 studios at lambeau Field and West. The Packers have trimmed 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:33.159 down their roster from ninety players to fifty three. But 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:35.640 I want to start the show by talking about a 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.200 player who is not on the Packers fifty three man roster. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:41.160 But he's the player that Packers fans cannot stop talking about, 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:45.519 and that's former Oakland Raiders pass rusher Khalil Mack. The 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:49.040 Packers reportedly in the discussions for a potential trade for 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.199 Mac amongst some other teams. Mac ends up going to 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.080 the Chicago Bears for a couple of first round draft picks, 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:57.800 a big trade for right at the end of training camp. 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:59.920 I can't remember a move like this across the lead 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:04.080 at this stage that that was this monumental in terms 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:06.480 of the type of player involved. Just your thoughts on 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:08.479 what went down with all this. I guess they're calling 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:10.959 it the Khalil max Sweepstakes. Yeah, I guess it was. 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.800 I mean, just such a unique situation first off, because 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:17.440 of just what happened in Oakland with the Raiders for 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.200 Mac to come available. You don't see a guy as 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.640 young as he is, as talent as he is, and 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.720 with as much upside as they're still there, come available 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.200 at that stage of his career very often. And I 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:30.240 thought when the interesting things of it, the Bears sort 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.040 of you know, came out of nowhere to pick him up. 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:36.320 And you know you mentioned him being something you can't remember. Yeah, 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.120 I don't remember a defensive player ever, you know, making 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.959 that amount of money and being traded all within the 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.280 span of you know, a couple you know, forty eight 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:47.600 hours like Mac was. But you know, this is a 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:49.560 move that I think Ryan Pace feels like, you know, 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.400 it adds It obviously adds a in all pro type 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.680 pass rusher to Vic Fangio's defense. And it just so 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.120 turns out the Packers will see him this upcoming week. 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.120 It looks like so uh yeah, it was a really 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.720 interesting discussion. I know our insider in backs fans have 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.800 been talking about it for pretty much the last month. Um, 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.400 you know, my whole two cents since the very beginning 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.240 was it's not just what it takes to acquire him, 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.560 it's going to be what is it worth to you 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.280 to sign him long term? And and for the Bears, 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.160 obviously that was an investment they were willing to make 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.720 him with their quarterback situation right now being what it is. 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:24.960 A young guy, a young roster um, they had the 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:26.720 room to to be able to do it. Yeah, and 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:31.160 I'll say this with regards to the Packers. Brian goudakuns 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:34.360 to address the media on late Sunday afternoon with regards 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:36.400 to the roster. He was asked in kind of a 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.839 roundabout way about Khalil Mack. He wasn't going to get 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:43.120 into any specifics as far as the discussion. I look 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.680 at it simply from this point of us. If the 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.079 price was two first round draft picks. I don't know 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.960 if Gouda Kunst offered the Packers two first round picks 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:52.960 in this next draft, because they have the one their 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.040 own plus the one from the Saints, I don't know 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:57.160 if that was the offer. But if I'm the Raiders 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.960 looking at it, and I have the Bears to first 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.000 round picture from the Bears in the next two drafts 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.799 or two from the Packers in the next draft, I'm 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:09.600 looking at it to say, well, those picks that from 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.480 the Bears with Mitch Trobiski, a young guy still developing 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.120 at quarterback, Versus picks that are going to be determined 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:18.000 by the play of Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees. The 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.560 Packers and the Saints. I think they just went with 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:22.520 the picks that they think we're gonna be higher, going 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:24.920 to be worth more. I mean, regardless of the other 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.000 issue you mentioned, which is fitting him under the cap 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.200 and getting that deal done, because there was a lot 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.639 of tension in Oakland as to you know, with him 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:33.680 holding out and wanting a new deal and how much 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.280 money he was going to want and all that kind 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:39.080 of stuff. So a lot of logistics and everything that 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.000 that went into this. But I will say this, Bryan 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.520 Goudakun said when he was hired he wants to be 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:47.600 in on every conversation. He's holding true to his word 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:49.880 from everything that we're hearing. Yeah, and even you know, 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.880 going back towards the free agent process, and sometimes that's 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.200 going to result in you signing a Jimmy Graham or 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.840 you know, bringing back Tramont Williams if it makes sense, 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:01.080 and sometimes it doesn't result in anything. It's important to 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.560 be in those conversations. It was a big point of 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.280 emphasis for Goods coming in. They want to be in 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.160 the know with everything, and I think up unto this point, 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.720 now what eight months into this thing, he's loved up 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.080 to that end of the bargain. Yeah, alright. Well, with 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.800 regards to the fifty three players who are on the 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:21.159 Packers active roster, already some adjustments being made before we 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.560 came into the studio here to record this episode. The 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:28.080 Packers on Saturday afternoon at the cutdown time had eight 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:31.240 wide receivers that has now been trimmed to seven with 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:35.440 Jake Kumuro going on injured reserve. The Packers doing that 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.159 because by putting him initially on the fifty three and 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.600 then moving him to injured reserve, he is eligible to 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.600 come back potentially at a later point this season, which 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:45.800 you cannot do if you put the player on i 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:49.440 R before you get down to the fifty three. So 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:52.440 the Packers now with seven receivers instead of eight, and 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:56.160 they signed a new linebacker. Um Tumor is the last name. 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.320 I'm the first name is escaping man at the moment, 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:02.560 Corey Corey Tumor. So a new inside linebacker added too, 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.440 added to the mix. There a lot of stuff going 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:08.440 on here in the last seventy two hours with regards 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:10.520 to the Packers roster. What sticks out to you? What 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.360 are your major impressions. I think the first thing is 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:16.080 still with the receivers, and while they did end up 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.640 putting Kumero on I are, the fact that they carried 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.680 seven of them through the cutdown tells you what they 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.000 think of that group. You know, just starting off from 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:27.200 the very top, Gerano Mallison left no doubt I thought 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:29.880 in this preseason he's the number three receiver. And then 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.360 you also have Trevor Davis, what he offers you on 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:34.640 special teams, not only just as a returner, but as 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.360 a gunner and the different things he can do there. 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.160 And then obviously the biggest storyline is those three rookie receivers. 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.760 All three of them made it. Much like the running 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.400 backs last year, all three of them end up making 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.080 the roster. A lot of projection there, but Mike McCarthy 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:51.160 touched on it a little bit right on that Friday 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.960 after the Kansas City game, and then Brian Goodkins did 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:55.920 the same thing on Sunday. After the cuts are made, 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.480 it's projection. It isn't just about where Jamon Moore and 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:03.400 Eke st Brown and Marquez Valdes Scantling are today. It's 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:04.960 where they're going to be a year from now, where 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.360 they're gonna be two years from now. I think from 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.719 the very beginning we talked about it during the roster 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.640 when they when they went with the draft. All three 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:17.120 of these guys have incredibly talented gifts um and now 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.039 it's gonna be the process of trying to develop those 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.680 guys for the future. And and the nice thing is 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:26.279 for them with having Randall Cobb, Davante Adams and even 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.160 you know, Jimmy Graham there as well, along with you 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.719 know Jonimlson going to his third year, it's not like 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:33.599 these guys are gonna be pressed into action right away. 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:35.280 There's still time to learn for them and to really 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.880 develop their their full skill set. Yeah. Well, the Packers, 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.559 as we know, the fifty three man roster gets trimmed 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:44.440 to forty six every every Sunday for game Day. So 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.640 the decisions now with the wide receivers, you know who's 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.560 going to be active and available to play on Sundays, 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.440 because as you said, there are projections involved as far 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.160 as the future with some of these guys, they may 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.360 not be ready to play. They might be those game 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.400 day inactives here and there as we go through this season. 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:02.960 One of the big decisions I thought coming out of 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:06.000 the Kansas City game was whether or not the Packers 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:09.320 would keep three quarterbacks on the fifty three man roster. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.200 Brett Honley was traded, as we had mentioned before the 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.600 Kansas City game, elevated to Shaun Kaiser to the number 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:17.400 two role. Then it came down to Tim Boyle. The 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:21.640 undrafted rookie from Eastern Kentucky. Came out in the Kansas 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.040 City game. First two drives march the Packers right down 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.760 the field for two touchdowns. Then the second half didn't 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.480 go quite so well, so a very uneven game. The 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.239 Packers decided to keep Boyle on the fifty three man roster. 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:36.800 He is um, he is an active player, and uh really, 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.360 I thought when he was in the game with I 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.440 guess what I would call the second string type players. 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.400 He performed, he functioned, he looked like he completely belonged. 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.200 Now when you get to the third and the fourth 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.480 string guys in the second half, something started to unravel there. 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.480 I think that's what the packers recognized that, hey, there's 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.960 uh there, there's definitely enough upside to this quarterback to 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.120 keep him on the team. He stole my point if 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.600 you want to move on to the next topic, but 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.000 I agree with you. That was my biggest takeaway from 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:08.960 that game, the two series. I think it was two 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.560 series that he got when he was actually working with 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.960 the number two line and with you know, the receivers 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:17.040 that he had there. Robert Tanyan obviously had a connection 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:18.840 with there as well, and a Tannian ends up making 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:23.000 the roster. I thought he looked exemplary. Now, the thing 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.000 you have to understand with Tim Boyle, though, is like 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.920 as Mike McCarthy talked about with any young player, there's 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.320 ups and downs. There's evan flow. Tim Boyle, this isn't 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.400 gonna come out and put together like this Aaron Rodgers 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.400 type performance where every series is clean. He's thrown for 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.760 four yards and three touchdowns. You know there's gonna be 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:41.560 some fluctuation there. He's an undrafted rookie after all. But 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:44.640 you go back to the things I've been saying since 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:48.040 the very beginning with this guy. I love his pocket presence. 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.079 He you know, if he makes a mistake in the pocket. 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:53.640 It's not because the pressure got to him. He's willing 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:55.280 to stand in there, take a hit and throw the 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.440 football and put it where it needs to be. He 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.880 has a great arm, and in the fact of the 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.560 matter is I think operating within this offense. You saw it, 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:06.120 especially on that first series, he functions in it really well. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.160 And I even said to you, I mean, yes, he 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.800 has those moments where things don't go quite right, but 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.319 it really does surprise you that this is a young 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:15.160 man that just didn't have a little more success at 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.560 the college level than he did, because I think you 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.080 see the natural ability there, and the Packers obviously saw 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.559 enough in it to keep that third quarterback for the 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.559 fourth time in five years. Yeah, and hats off to 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.960 Boil because he was in a tough spot in a 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.839 lot of senses, because he had done some nice things 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.240 in the first two preseason games and then he didn't 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.640 play in the third round, so suddenly he gets thrown 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.440 out there in Kansas City. He hasn't played an actual 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.559 game action for two weeks. His reps in practice, you're 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:42.960 always going to be limited as the number four quarterback 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.160 in terms of the number of reps you're getting because 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.160 Hunley wasn't traded until right up right up to the 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.600 end of the preparation for Kansas City, so for him 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:53.480 to go out there those first two drives, I know 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:55.720 there was a big pass interference penalty that helped. He 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.959 threw had a couple of really nice throws. You mentioned 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:02.600 Robert ton in young tight end who ended up making 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:06.199 this roster, the Packers keeping keeping four tight ends. I 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.440 don't remember exactly the down and distance. I think it 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:12.400 was a third down, maybe even a third and long. Okay, 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.240 Um that that passed a Tanian over the middle that 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:18.080 moved the chains, got the Packers into scoring position. That 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.160 was sort of like an eye opener, like wow, like 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.640 that ball came out of his hand, it was on time, 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.880 It had some velocity. Um. Robert Tanyan, you know, caught 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.040 it clean, big play and uh and something that both 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:31.679 of those guys really showed what they're made up. A 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.199 great point because I think it was the rising tide 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.480 lifts all boats there, because I mean, you look at it. 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:38.360 Boyle put it right where it needed to be and 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.600 Tanya made a play on the ball once it got there. 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:42.880 It wasn't just okay, it was a good throw and 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.719 the catch wasn't there, the ball wasn't really where he 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:47.160 wanted to be. In time, you just made a play, No, 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.680 I mean both sides were working on that, and I think, 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:51.960 and you've covered this team a lot longer than I have, Mike, 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.800 but in my time, I was literally was sitting here 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:58.200 on Sunday trying to think about two guys that I think, 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.920 in my opinion, played themselves on a roster that weekend. 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:02.920 And maybe the Packers already had some idea where they 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.600 were gonna do with these guys, but the what Boil 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.240 showed early on and then what Tanyan did with the 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.840 reps that he was afforded. You know they always say 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.360 every year, you know, you never really set out what 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.199 you're gonna have for how many players are going to 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:17.719 be on a roster, well, how many are going to 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:21.280 be at a certain position. In my opinion, though, I 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.360 still like the idea of having three quarterbacks, especially in 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.200 today's environment with the c B A. And I love 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:30.360 having four tight ends because there is that flexibility with 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.760 special teams as well. You know, Kendricks and tanya know 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.920 both contribute in that fashion. I just think when you 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.560 look at them keeping Tanya. You have three veterans there 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:39.920 and now you have a young guy that you can 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.920 develop behind them. I think that's a really good thing because, 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:44.839 as we've talked about so many times on the show, Mike, 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:46.920 it's really tough for a young tight end just to 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.240 come in and set the world on fire. They need time, 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.200 and now Tanya is going to get that. Well, and 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.200 what an opportunity for Tanya to be able to learn 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.160 from the from these three tight ends that are ahead 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.520 of him and Graham and Lewis and Kendricks. You couldn't 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.160 ask for our situation as a young guy at that 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.839 position trying to trying to make your way in the league. 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:08.280 Graham catching, Louis blocking, and then you look at Lance 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.200 Kendricks h back type all. That is a perfect classroom 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.880 to be in for for Tania. 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Okay, I wanted to get onto an element 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:42.040 of this fifty three man roster, Brian Goudacun's first fifty 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.640 three man roster that really stood out to me and 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.320 I wrote about this on our website after gudacunts TATS 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:51.319 press conference on Sunday afternoon. I look at three positions, 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.800 in particular, tight end, as we've talked about, offensive line 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.719 and cornerback. Look at some of these guys who are 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:01.000 in reserve roles for the Packers West that are not 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.920 expected to start. Um they're not expected to be starting players. 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:09.360 Lance Kendricks, Byron Bell a backup guard and tackle on 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:12.600 the offensive line, and then Devon House at cornerback. All 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.400 three of these guys entering their eighth year in the league. 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:20.040 That's three reserve players that have a collective twenty plus 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:24.080 years of experience in the NFL. That's something to me 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.640 that is different about this roster compared to some Packers 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.679 rosters we've seen in recent years. Now, you can't have 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:34.520 a ton of experience at backup positions all across the roster. 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:38.520 The salary cap doesn't afford it. And number two, you 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.640 want to have developing young players in your pipeline. That's 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:46.160 part of uh the building block for sustained success in 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.400 this league. But we've seen over the last handful of 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.000 years West when the Packers have injury strike and they 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.800 have to call on reserve players, we've seen a lot 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:58.240 of young guys who haven't played before, maybe they're even 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.240 just being called up from the practice squad, and they 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.360 get thrown in because of the injuries. At least now 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:07.119 at these three spots tight end, offensive line and cornerback. 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.480 If the Packers have to dig a little bit deeper 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.160 into their depth chart, they've got some experience there. And 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.280 I think that's what makes this roster Brian Goodacus first 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.880 fifty three man roster a little different from once we've seen, 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.600 particularly in the first month of the season. Two was 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:22.720 something I thought about now. I was at home working 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:26.160 on our world famous game program and I had Packers 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.560 dot Com up on my laptop and when I heard 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.440 you asked that question, Good and I was like, that's 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.640 a really good point and a really good, uh thing 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.240 that I had sort of looked over. But if you 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.760 think about it, it makes a lot of sense, both 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:42.040 from the perspective of just look out personally just at 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.320 Devon House. I remember talking to Trumont Williams two weeks 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.240 ago after Williams signed. You remember House actually ended up 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.120 resigning after that, and he said they actually talked a 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.520 little bit and and Williams explained to him why he 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.360 thought it would make sense for House to come back 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:58.760 one more time, because one, there's a ton of cornerbacks 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:02.000 that you're using on any given game in two, because 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.560 of just what he could bring to that room and 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:06.320 what he did last year if it wouldn't have been 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.920 for the lower body injuries that he dealt with. Byron 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.720 Bell coming in and you mentioned Kendricks, even a guy 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.840 like Lewis and even look at Corey Tumor now coming 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.880 in at inside linebacker. Antonio Morrison was just traded on 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:21.360 learning tackler from another team with with you know, twenty 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:24.360 plus starts in his NFL career. So what that screams 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.160 to me specifically this first month two months of the 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.880 season is you've got guys that have been there, They've 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.480 done that in the game is not going to be 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:36.400 foreign to them once they're in there. Um, Historically, when 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.680 you look at Ted Thompson's teams, they always got better 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.920 by December, especially the years in which they could avoid injuries, 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.280 because you had young guys that were making progress every 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.520 single week. And now I still think you're gonna have 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.440 that element. You look at how deep the Packers are 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:52.680 at cornerback, you look at having Robert Tanian available, some 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.240 of the young offensive lineman that are there with Byron 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.280 Bell on that depth chart, and then you add into 0:15:58.320 --> 0:15:59.960 the fact that you have experience that's going to be 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:01.960 able to guide you throughout that season. I think it's 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.600 the perfect blend. Certainly, we have to see how everything 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.280 works out. Injuries can change things very quickly in this league. 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.440 But as it stands right now, I think it's really 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.680 impressive what Brian good Kinz is built because it seems 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.320 to be a perfect marriage there between experience and also 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.160 a lot of upside. Yeah, it's it's it seems to 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:19.120 be a little bit more of a balance. And you know, 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:22.040 when we're on the sidelines that practice during training camp, 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.120 we're talking to the other beat reporters there, you know, 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.840 guys that we know very well. We've had long relationships 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.560 with a lot of them, and I had conversations with 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.040 guys on the sideline. We'd be kicking things around, like, well, 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.000 you know, is Kendricks going to make this team? Is 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.720 Byron Bell going to make this team? And a lot 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:38.880 of guys are like, well, yeah, look at what tanyans 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:40.760 do when it doesn't look like Kendricks is gonna make it. 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.560 I was like, well, hold on here, let's just let's see. 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:45.360 And what ends up happening. They end up keeping them 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:49.560 both the young developing player and the experience backup who 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:51.960 can step in at a moment's notice and know exactly 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.560 what he's doing and has a player who's been on 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:58.640 the stage before and very similar in that respect with Bell. 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.360 You look at they ended up keeping an undrafted rookie 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:05.720 like Alex Light at offensive tackle, a young developing player. 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.000 I know the injury happened with Kyle Murphy and he's 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:11.200 on injured reserve and all that, but um, but then 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.919 you have a veteran like Bell. It wasn't just okay, 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.240 cut that guy loose because we feel like we have 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:19.000 a young developing guy. It's like, no, let's maybe find 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:20.919 a way, as you say, to have that marriage, to 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.560 have to have both have your cake and eat it too, 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.719 so to speak. And as I said, you can't do 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:29.359 it at all positions across across your roster. It's not realistic. 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.120 But in certain spots the Packers were able to do that. 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.919 And that's what I what I like about the construction 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:36.720 of this and what I think stands out is something 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:38.720 a little different and the Mike Spofford, let's be a 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.439 real moment of the week here that you look at 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.680 the forty six you're talking about it earlier. You need 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.840 guys like Byron Bell that can play guard, that can 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.520 play tackle, Lucas Patrick who can play center in the 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.840 both guard positions, you know, and while Jason Spriggs, you 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:53.320 know it appears to be a little bit more specialized 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.520 with the tackle position, still has shown in the past 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:57.520 that he can move inside if he needs to. That's 0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:59.520 really the most important thing too. And I think when 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:01.679 you look at you're building your depth. Don Barclay did 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:03.960 it for so many years here, even you know, justin 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.880 mccraig last year. You have to have guys that number six, 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:08.879 number seven offensive linemen that can go in there and 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.040 not be a let up and and know what they're doing. 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.040 And I think that's what Bell gives you, and I 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.000 that's the main reason why Brian Goodcuins went out and 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.840 signed him back in the spring. Yeah. Well, young developing 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.280 players are always going to be part of a draft 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.280 and developed roster like the Packers have. And one guy 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.919 that we definitely need to talk about here is James 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:31.439 Crawford inside linebacker. I have to confess, Wes. He was 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.639 never even on my radar, partly because he showed up 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.560 two weeks into training camp. He was a he was 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:39.960 a late signing, ends up making the fifty three man roster. 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:42.720 Lights the world on fire on special teams in in 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.680 Kansas City, Brian Goodakun said, one of the best special 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:49.520