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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, sitting next to the one and

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Speaker 1: only West Hodkuits. We're coming to you here from our

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Speaker 1: studios at lambeau Field and West. The Packers have trimmed

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Speaker 1: down their roster from ninety players to fifty three. But

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Speaker 1: I want to start the show by talking about a

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Speaker 1: player who is not on the Packers fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 1: But he's the player that Packers fans cannot stop talking about,

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Speaker 1: and that's former Oakland Raiders pass rusher Khalil Mack. The

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Speaker 1: Packers reportedly in the discussions for a potential trade for

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Speaker 1: Mac amongst some other teams. Mac ends up going to

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears for a couple of first round draft picks,

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Speaker 1: a big trade for right at the end of training camp.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember a move like this across the lead

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Speaker 1: at this stage that that was this monumental in terms

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Speaker 1: of the type of player involved. Just your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: what went down with all this. I guess they're calling

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Speaker 1: it the Khalil max Sweepstakes. Yeah, I guess it was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just such a unique situation first off, because

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Speaker 1: of just what happened in Oakland with the Raiders for

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Speaker 1: Mac to come available. You don't see a guy as

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Speaker 1: young as he is, as talent as he is, and

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Speaker 1: with as much upside as they're still there, come available

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Speaker 1: at that stage of his career very often. And I

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Speaker 1: thought when the interesting things of it, the Bears sort

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Speaker 1: of you know, came out of nowhere to pick him up.

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Speaker 1: And you know you mentioned him being something you can't remember. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember a defensive player ever, you know, making

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Speaker 1: that amount of money and being traded all within the

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Speaker 1: span of you know, a couple you know, forty eight

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Speaker 1: hours like Mac was. But you know, this is a

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Speaker 1: move that I think Ryan Pace feels like, you know,

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Speaker 1: it adds It obviously adds a in all pro type

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Speaker 1: pass rusher to Vic Fangio's defense. And it just so

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Speaker 1: turns out the Packers will see him this upcoming week.

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Speaker 1: It looks like so uh yeah, it was a really

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Speaker 1: interesting discussion. I know our insider in backs fans have

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Speaker 1: been talking about it for pretty much the last month. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, my whole two cents since the very beginning

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Speaker 1: it's going to be what is it worth to you

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Speaker 1: to sign him long term? And and for the Bears,

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Speaker 1: obviously that was an investment they were willing to make

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Speaker 1: him with their quarterback situation right now being what it is.

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Speaker 1: A young guy, a young roster um, they had the

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Speaker 1: room to to be able to do it. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I'll say this with regards to the Packers. Brian goudakuns

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Speaker 1: to address the media on late Sunday afternoon with regards

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Speaker 1: roundabout way about Khalil Mack. He wasn't going to get

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Speaker 1: into any specifics as far as the discussion. I look

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Speaker 1: at it simply from this point of us. If the

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Speaker 1: price was two first round draft picks. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if Gouda Kunst offered the Packers two first round picks

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Speaker 1: in this next draft, because they have the one their

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Speaker 1: if that was the offer. But if I'm the Raiders

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Speaker 1: round picture from the Bears in the next two drafts

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Speaker 1: looking at it to say, well, those picks that from

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Speaker 1: the Bears with Mitch Trobiski, a young guy still developing

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Speaker 1: at quarterback, Versus picks that are going to be determined

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Speaker 1: by the play of Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees. The

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Speaker 1: the picks that they think we're gonna be higher, going

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Speaker 1: to be worth more. I mean, regardless of the other

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Speaker 1: and getting that deal done, because there was a lot

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Speaker 1: from everything that we're hearing. Yeah, and even you know,

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Speaker 1: the Packers now with seven receivers instead of eight, and

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Speaker 1: they signed a new linebacker. Um Tumor is the last name.

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Speaker 1: Corey Corey Tumor. So a new inside linebacker added too,

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Speaker 1: you also have Trevor Davis, what he offers you on

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Speaker 1: And then obviously the biggest storyline is those three rookie receivers.

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Speaker 1: All three of them made it. Much like the running

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Speaker 1: it's projection. It isn't just about where Jamon Moore and

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Speaker 1: There's still time to learn for them and to really

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Speaker 1: develop their their full skill set. Yeah. Well, the Packers,

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Speaker 1: as we know, the fifty three man roster gets trimmed

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Speaker 1: One of the big decisions I thought coming out of

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Speaker 1: Brett Honley was traded, as we had mentioned before the

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Speaker 1: undrafted rookie from Eastern Kentucky. Came out in the Kansas

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Speaker 1: He is um, he is an active player, and uh really,

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Speaker 1: He performed, he functioned, he looked like he completely belonged.

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Speaker 1: uh there, there's definitely enough upside to this quarterback to

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Speaker 1: enough in it to keep that third quarterback for the

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Speaker 1: fourth time in five years. Yeah, and hats off to

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Speaker 1: Boil because he was in a tough spot in a

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Speaker 1: exactly what James Crawford did. Well. Undrafted rookie from Illinois,

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Speaker 1: His name is Geronimo Alison. Now the number three wide

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Speaker 1: guy I like Crawford. But with that, we're going to

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Speaker 1: call it a wrap on this edition of Packers on Scripted.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the

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