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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Katty and he Armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 3: No apologies Media. At my new company, we're gonna do

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Speaker 3: a all ladies talk show that.

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Speaker 2: Won't be like the View. Is it the opposite of

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Speaker 2: the View.

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Speaker 3: It could be it'll be the opposite because this will

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Speaker 3: be entertaining.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, funny women on it.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna tell jokes and have funny stories and health

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Speaker 3: and wellness.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of.

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Speaker 3: When we like and it's household names and you're gonna

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Speaker 3: love it. I don't know what we're gonna call it

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Speaker 3: the lip service or the other View.

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Speaker 2: We're not sure yet.

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Speaker 4: Rob Schneider, who was on Saturday Night Live thirty years ago,

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Speaker 4: is going to have a version of the view that's

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Speaker 4: not crazy left. It reminds me of I just saw

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Speaker 4: Van Jones CNN say fringe media. I don't think that's

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Speaker 4: the right term, but he said fringe media has replaced

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Speaker 4: mainstream media. We're on cable news getting one million people

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Speaker 4: while they're getting fourteen million streams. Yeah, I already established

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Speaker 4: popular programs, don't have hardly any viewership, So good luck,

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Speaker 4: Rob Schneider.

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Speaker 2: I hope you can make a dent or whatever.

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Speaker 4: But I think the we're going to influence the world

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Speaker 4: by having a TV show days are over.

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Speaker 2: Right, Although a lot of TV shows have an echo

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Speaker 2: online that get far more views of individual videos, for instance.

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Speaker 2: So we learned that about Fallon's show. Yeah, I remember

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Speaker 2: a couple of years.

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Speaker 4: He crafts it for the YouTube clips, not for the

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Speaker 4: people doning in at night.

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Speaker 2: Right, And Rob Schneider's pretty smart guy. I bet he's

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Speaker 2: got that sort of thing in mind.

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Speaker 4: We have an update on the drones of New Jersey,

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Speaker 4: the drones of New Jersey, and which the governor says

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Speaker 4: that is their number one priority right now figuring out

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Speaker 4: what's going on. A Pentagon spokesman has said is it's

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Speaker 4: not US military thing of any kind, And I would

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Speaker 4: assume they wouldn't say that as blanket as that, as

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Speaker 4: clear as that if there was a chance it was.

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Speaker 4: She said, there's also no evidence that it's a foreign adversary,

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Speaker 4: but that's just saying there's no evidence doesn't mean it's not. Well,

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Speaker 4: as far as I can tell, there's no evidence of anything.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows anything on a completely different topic, and we

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Speaker 2: will be talking more about the healthcare CEO murder, the

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Speaker 2: reaction of that, and the current state of healthcare in

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Speaker 2: America with Craig the healthcare Guru next hour. I hope

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Speaker 2: you can join us for that. If you can't grab

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Speaker 2: the podcast later, I'm strong in getting on demand. In fact,

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Speaker 2: you could subscribe. On the topic of I'm going to

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Speaker 2: use the standard term and then we're going to explode

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Speaker 2: it and never use it again, the homeless problem. We've

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Speaker 2: been searching for a better term to describe what's going

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Speaker 2: on because, as I'll be sharing with you in a moment,

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Speaker 2: that is a miss well, it's a misnomer. Literally, it's

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Speaker 2: a misnaming of the problem. It's like, you know, somebody

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Speaker 2: with the flu has a catastrophic gunshot wound and the

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Speaker 2: doctors just keep calling him the flu patient and treating

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Speaker 2: him for the flu. It's not the problem. But this

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Speaker 4: Like, if someone had a heart attack with COVID and

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Speaker 4: you called it COVID, nobody would do that a COVID death, No,

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Speaker 4: instead of bums and junkies, I like the very accurate

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Speaker 4: term transient drug addicts, right's anonymous.

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Speaker 2: I think the most interesting take is this. It's really good,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of what I say with the kids,

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Speaker 4: but street people drug addicts TDA is transient drug addicts.

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Speaker 2: Uh. I think the most interesting take is this, we

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Speaker 2: should all we all agree we should help the homeless,

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Speaker 2: i e. Productive law abiding people who fell on hard times,

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Speaker 2: but we spend so much money supporting the transient drug

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Speaker 2: Anyone who wants to help the homeless should agree that

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Speaker 2: the best way to have more resources to support the

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Speaker 2: it with you, although the whole thing's great. Says some

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Speaker 2: very nice things about the show. You've got a way

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Speaker 2: of breaking down complex issues with refreshing common sense, like

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Speaker 2: a breath of fresh air. Thank you very much. I

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Speaker 2: work with the homeless in I don't see any reason

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't mention the town. This person wants to remain anonymous.

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Speaker 2: M is there need to mention the town? Significant sized

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Speaker 2: lists the various places just about every street with significant

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Speaker 2: homeless encampments and quotes. I was listening to you this

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Speaker 2: homeless on the radio, and I found myself yelling, yes,

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Speaker 2: finally someone gets it, because you're abs at right. We

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Speaker 2: don't have a homeless problem. What we have is a

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Speaker 2: drug problem. Because my mindless person works with these people

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Speaker 4: The biggest problem I have with that praise is it

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Speaker 4: seemed obvious for quite some time that that's what's going on.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, eighty five percent of the folks I work

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Speaker 4: percent are mentally ill because of drug addiction. They're remaining

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Speaker 4: five percent they're just mentally ill and need confinement in

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Speaker 4: with people who ruined their brains because of drugs? I

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I guess. While many homeless advocates and quotes

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Speaker 2: argue that most homeless individuals are simply struggling abused moms

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Speaker 2: or families in need of assistance to my five pardon me,

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Speaker 2: red's too high. Oh yeah, we need control. In my

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Speaker 2: five years of experience working in the toughest parts of

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Speaker 2: The rest mostly middle aged men and women trapped in

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Speaker 2: a cycle of addiction, who will say or do anything

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Speaker 2: we keep hearing about like tiny homes are just band

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Speaker 2: aids on bullet wounds. The county's current plan is to

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Speaker 2: build hundreds of tiny homes near particular location. Unless there's

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Speaker 2: a serious plan for dealing with addiction, you're just creating

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Speaker 2: a drug camp, of course, And by serious plan I

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Speaker 2: mean more than the tired old line we hear that

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Speaker 2: support services will be provided. Politicians love the optics of

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Speaker 2: tiny homes because people see something that looks like actions

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Speaker 2: solve the problem. But when the rules are broken at

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Speaker 2: the tiny home settlements, as they inevitably are, these folks

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Speaker 2: but drug addicts don't obey rules very well. Add to

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Speaker 2: the fact that it takes forty five days. He has

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Speaker 2: forty five days to have a person cleared for intake services. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: that's typically forty four days after they've disappeared back into

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Speaker 2: the fog. Why not force rehab, Jack, you're gonna love this.

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Speaker 2: Rehab has a ninety four percent failure rate the first

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Speaker 2: time around, and politicians, no voters. What's stomach a program

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Speaker 2: that's nine hundred and forty thousand dollars of failure for

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Speaker 2: services outright because it cuts into their high time. Wow,

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Speaker 2: so you're looking at a very small percent who even

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Speaker 2: purchase an eight ball in Sacramento. It's a measure of drugs.

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Speaker 2: Kids providing a high for several days, provided they do

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Speaker 2: All you people handing out cash at stoplights, stop, they

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Speaker 2: use the cash to buy drugs. They throw the food away.

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Speaker 2: Addicts aren't known for huge appetites. Fine, I'll skip to

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Speaker 2: the final paragraph. Even though again this is all terrific.

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Speaker 2: If we want real change, we need drug courts back,

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Speaker 2: We need accountability, we need punishment. We need to stop

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Speaker 2: pretending this problem is something it's not. We need to

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Speaker 2: stop acting like a long term drug addict has the

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Speaker 2: same mental capacity and rights that everyone else does. Most

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Speaker 2: addicts will not seek help for their addiction until they've

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Speaker 2: reached the lowest point. It's just too easy, and as

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Speaker 4: I don't know how long it's going to take for

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Speaker 4: society to catch up with this. But so you look

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Speaker 2: And they're under there, and they're.

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Speaker 4: Drug addicts, and you think, well, they can't want to

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Speaker 4: It's hard for us to imagine looking at them that

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's these intervention shows or whatever, but somehow we

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Speaker 2: I don't know where that came from. That idea.

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Speaker 4: It's never been true, it's not true now, it never

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Speaker 2: So we got to blow up that idea too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You know, you can't be cynical enough about this. What

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Speaker 2: government does is it identifies problems, real and imagined, and

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Speaker 4: The money going out is the point. It is for

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Speaker 4: a certain crew, no doubt about it. They're scumbags and

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Speaker 4: stay in office and people get rich while you cantinue

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Speaker 4: But I know personally several people that work in the

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Speaker 4: They're not Marxists and they're not they're not in on

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Speaker 4: the scam. They actually want to help the problem. How

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Speaker 4: do we reach all those people and convince them the

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Speaker 2: Compulsory listening to the Armstrong Ngetty shows is the only

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Speaker 2: thing that leaps to mind. That's the solution, government mandated listenership.

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Speaker 4: I think as I sit here today thinking about it,

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Speaker 4: I think the only thing in this will take a

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Speaker 4: and we'll all have to live with a bunch of

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Speaker 4: and it's got to seep into society at such a

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Speaker 4: high level that very few people decide.

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Speaker 2: To do that. You're right, absolutely speaking of transient drug

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Speaker 4: And the way everybody lives in fear constantly, everyone man,

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Speaker 2: that's part of the terror Satam's can take you by

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Speaker 4: Indeed, are racial relations going the right way or the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can you believe it? Wrongly officially two weeks away

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Speaker 4: You worked at UPS too, Crush week or whatever they

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Speaker 4: But on that week you'd work like six or seven

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Speaker 2: Around that very simple, untrue phrase. Yeah. At the risk

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Speaker 2: But first, this what are we about to hear? Katie?

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Speaker 5: So this is from an YouTube podcast called so True,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how progressive I am. Oh my god, I

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, I mean they should be locked up. I

439
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Speaker 2: have insane folder of stories ready to go about the

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Speaker 2: so called DEI programs and universities and various corporations in

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Speaker 2: the government and how utterly racist and twisted they are. Yeah, Katie,

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Speaker 2: would you like to weigh in on the authenticity or

443
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Speaker 2: sincerity of the two gentlemen. Well, it seemed quite sincere.

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Speaker 5: And that's kind of the theme of this podcast is

445
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Speaker 5: megal left progressive hitting all the talking points that the

446
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Speaker 5: media salivates over.

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Speaker 2: The fact that a philosophy that insane and insanely stupid

448
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Speaker 2: would have any currency in the modern world is frightening

449
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Speaker 2: to me. It is so post enlightenment, it is so

450
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Speaker 2: post to you know, racial healing. It's ugly, it's obscene,

451
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Speaker 2: and yet it has infected so many of our institutions.

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Speaker 4: Well, I remember when in California, and this is probably

453
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Speaker 4: ten fifteen years ago, white people were going to cease

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Speaker 4: being the majority. They were still going to be the

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Speaker 4: biggest group, but they weren't the majority of California, and

456
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Speaker 4: the line got crossed. There were more people that weren't

457
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Speaker 4: white than were white for the first time ever. And

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Speaker 4: the cheering and celebration about that, it's just so weird

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Speaker 4: to me. Not that I cheer having more white people

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Speaker 4: than every who's cheering percentage of of race.

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Speaker 2: That's not folks who have been convert to the Church

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Speaker 2: of Dei of Wochism.

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Speaker 4: Before it was it was called that I remember when

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Speaker 4: I remember, I can remember, like I just there. I

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Speaker 4: won't mention the name, but our newsman, Marshall Phillips did

466
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Speaker 4: the story, and another person who was a person of

467
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Speaker 4: color on the show cheered, all right, yeah, that's like,

468
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Speaker 4: why is that thrilling for you? That will be now

469
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Speaker 4: less way? I mean, what do you think is going

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Speaker 4: to happen because of that? I don't think they think

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Speaker 4: about that much at all. They've just been recruited again

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Speaker 4: into the cult of.

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Speaker 2: Racial politics and that's been super successful through the years.

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Speaker 2: But if you want to see how that works, go

475
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Speaker 2: to the Middle East to go to you know, any

476
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Speaker 2: of your capitals of your Muslim states and announce that

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Speaker 2: you're a proud Christian or an atheist. That's worse you'll

478
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Speaker 2: be treated. Tell them you're a gay atheist. Okay, if

479
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Speaker 2: you want to see how sectarian politics works, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: So a poll that is good news. Then this is

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Speaker 4: from the Manhattan Institute Serious organization.

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Speaker 2: All polls, not this one.

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Speaker 4: But polls have shown we've gone backwards on race since

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Speaker 4: the nineties. Things have actually gotten worse racially in this

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Speaker 4: country in terms of attitudes since the nineties, with you know,

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Speaker 4: being more focused on race and theory to make it

487
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Speaker 4: better has made it worse. I think we're all pretty

488
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Speaker 4: much aware of that. And so they ask people the question,

489
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Speaker 4: are you're given two choices here? Actually you're given three.

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Speaker 4: Not sure is always a choice, and you always have

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Speaker 4: you know, a tiny percentage of people. So oh no,

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Speaker 4: I just want to hang out with those people. Think

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Speaker 4: about it for a minute.

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Speaker 2: I'll wait. I don't know. Wait when you look around,

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Speaker 2: I mean, in your real life has gotten better or worse?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, no opinion.

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Speaker 4: But the other two choices you have are we should

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Speaker 4: focus on creating a race conscious society to repair the

499
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Speaker 4: harms of the past by developing policies that benefit marginalized groups.

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Speaker 4: That's what we have been doing since the early nineties.

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Speaker 4: The other choice was we should focus on creating a

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Speaker 4: color blind society where everyone is treated equally regardless of

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Speaker 4: the color of their skin. That's what we were doing

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Speaker 4: more or less post Martin Luther King Junior, pre the

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Speaker 4: early nineties, when things were actually getting better overall.

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Speaker 2: It's sixty sixty eight percent.

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Speaker 4: The second choice, almost seventy percent of Americans say we

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Speaker 4: should focus on creating a color blind society. Sorry, the

509
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Speaker 4: most popular book in America, at least according to all

510
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Speaker 4: the TV hosts, was that Ibram Kenny crap about there's

511
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Speaker 4: no such color blind is code for racist, and there's

512
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Speaker 4: no such thing as being I'm kick about color that means.

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Speaker 2: You're a racist.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, seventy percent of America doesn't agree with that,

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Speaker 4: and you start breaking it down by different groups, and

516
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Speaker 4: it's just astounding. First of all, it's every single group,

517
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Speaker 4: it's majority. The smallest majority of just fifty percent is

518
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Speaker 4: Black people said that. But even fifty percent of Black

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Speaker 4: people said that versus thirty seven percent who chose the other.

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Speaker 4: So fifty thirty seven You always say it's a good

521
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 4: idea to because it's not always just doesn't always add

522
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Speaker 4: up to one hundred, right, right, So only thirty seven

523
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Speaker 4: percent of Black people choose the we should focus on

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Speaker 4: race conscious society and make everything about race for all

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Speaker 4: the other groups.

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Speaker 2: It's not. And I would like to see the black folks,

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Speaker 2: uh divide by age in that answer, I think over

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Speaker 2: forty it'd be vanishingly small.

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Speaker 4: Even Democrats, it's a twenty point win for let's be color.

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Speaker 2: Blind on all this sort of stuff.

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Speaker 4: It's a twenty point win for Democrats for young people,

532
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Speaker 4: which might be most susceptible to this sort of crap. Uh,

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Speaker 4: it's fifty six to thirty, twenty six point win for

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Speaker 4: let's be a colorblind society.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, you were quite right when you mentioned we

536
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Speaker 2: were going to be talking about this. This is absolutely

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Speaker 2: the polar opposite of what you would be led to

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Speaker 2: believe by taking in the mainstream media.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you think the college crowd would be into this stuff. Nope,

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Speaker 4: it's sixty five twenty eight. We should be a colorblind

541
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Speaker 4: society for the college crowd. Yet we've all.

542
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Speaker 2: Been hammered with DEI and Robin DeAngelo and Ibram Kendy

543
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Speaker 2: and all of that garbage. There's a big study out

544
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Speaker 2: that we touched on. We didn't really go into it.

545
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Speaker 2: We should have that the eight billion dollars spent every

546
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Speaker 2: year on diversity training in the US. In the US

547
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Speaker 2: is demonstrably accomplishing the opposite of what it claims, which

548
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Speaker 2: is not surprising because as I and you and James

549
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 2: Lindsay and other people have been trying to communicate, DEI

550
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: isn't intending to get diversity. That's not what it's there

551
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: for it's an instrument of the takeover of institutions with

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Speaker 2: the excuse of racial justice. That's a dodge. It's the

553
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Speaker 2: sheep's clothes thing the wolf is wearing.

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Speaker 4: It also shows that it's the minority opinion by a

555
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 4: lot that's into it's the first Hispanic quarterback to ever

556
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Speaker 4: win a super Bowl, or this is the first Indian

557
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 4: American to go into space, or this is all that

558
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 4: never ending crap. Is the minority opinion. Most people don't

559
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: want that. They don't want to focus on who's what

560
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Speaker 4: color or whatever. Just tell me Jim won the super

561
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Speaker 4: Bowl or Sandy became secretary or whatever or what, but

562
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Speaker 4: leave that out of it.

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Speaker 2: Amen to that. Yeah, man's heartening. That's some excellent news.

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Speaker 2: I agree. Yeah, and just and this has been the

565
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Speaker 2: message of our show for a very very long time.

566
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Speaker 2: The truth is is what you live and what you

567
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: see and what you and your friends think, and don't

568
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: be talked out of the truth by the weirdos of

569
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: the mainstream media or you know, seeing their influence decrease

570
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: moment by moment. Anyway, it's it's easy to feel alone

571
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: because we have this electronic media driven life that in

572
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Speaker 2: one hundred years. We've gone from ninety eight percent of

573
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Speaker 2: our interactions were in person in the same room with

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Speaker 2: a human being to most of our perception of the

575
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Speaker 2: world comes from media that is feeding it to us,

576
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Speaker 2: and it has perverted our sense of reality.

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Speaker 4: I think, well, all of society's become Plato's Cave, except

578
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Speaker 4: it's the Internet now instead of shadows on a wall.

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Speaker 2: I got my kids Plato's Cave for Christmas. They played

580
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Speaker 2: before with it for like two days, and then it

581
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Speaker 2: went back in the closet. Right the Plato Cave now

582
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: tell us about Plato's cave, you have to jump over

583
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Speaker 2: Chesterton's fence to get in. See, these people are in

584
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: a dark cave and they're just seeing shadows from a fire,

585
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Speaker 2: and they come up with these perceptions of what the

586
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Speaker 2: world is, and then they finally get out of the

587
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Speaker 2: cave and realize that they are completely wrong, I mean,

588
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Speaker 2: completely mis led by the perceptions that they were given

589
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Speaker 2: by that.

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Speaker 4: And it's got long philosophical philosophical legs and tentacles going

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Speaker 4: from there.

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Speaker 2: But that is what we're doing with all this stuff,

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Speaker 2: I would agree. Yeah, the media, we've used the term

594
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: funhouse mirrors or whatever, but Plato's cave is a good

595
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: illustration of it too. I have had a piece of

596
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: pie every single day for five straight days, and let

597
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: me tell you, if you haven't tried that, it's not

598
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: good for your digestive system. Wow. I can only imagine

599
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: the horror. Just the heads up. Yes, Michael, Hey, how

600
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: you doing another cheesecake?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

603
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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that. I was kind of hoping that the

605
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Speaker 2: cheesecake would be a binding agent after I eat the pie,

606
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Speaker 2: which is a bit of a theory. Amateur gastro entrologist

607
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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong all right, hey, I got interrupt quick on

608
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Speaker 2: air meeting Katie. We need your help. Just I got

609
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: a text from a friend who will remain anonymous, and

610
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Speaker 2: he uses a terribly unfortunate variation on Caitlyn Clark's name, Oh,

611
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Speaker 2: preserving the sea in her first name. Oh, I just

612
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: say that. Did you guys rip Caitlyn Clark yet? What

613
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Speaker 2: is happening? What has she said? What has she done?

614
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Speaker 4: I only saw the headlines and I didn't even read

615
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: him because I didn't want to know. I like Caitlyn Clark.

616
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Speaker 4: I like a lot of stuff about her. According to Megan,

617
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Speaker 4: Kelly really ripped her for going down the white privilege

618
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Speaker 4: road as a you know, she's a young graduates graduated

619
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Speaker 4: from college. I'm sure she was convinced that she is

620
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Speaker 4: suffering from white privilege and should apologize for it. And

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Speaker 4: apparently she did, as she was named Time Magazine's Athlete

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Speaker 4: of the Year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see she is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she is saying that it's difficult having the fame

625
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Speaker 5: that she does in a sport that has been dominated

626
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Speaker 5: by black women historically.

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Speaker 2: I have a very controversy'll take on this topic. It'll

628
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Speaker 2: shock you. Stay with us.

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Speaker 4: We'll pass Joe the rock and he'll shoot for something

630
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Speaker 4: and I'll let me write it during the commercial.

631
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Speaker 2: Stay tuned. He's an argue with him now.

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Speaker 4: Tops many people list. I realize it's trite, but it's

633
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Speaker 4: also a very very good thing. Yeah, this is one

634
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Speaker 4: of those songs. I hear other people cover it and

635
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Speaker 4: I say, don't. Why would you subject yourself?

636
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Speaker 2: Don't do that. It's like covering Stairway to Heaven, trying

637
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Speaker 2: to sing it better than Robert Plant. Just don't even bother.

638
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Speaker 4: So it was on this day in the year two

639
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Speaker 4: thousand that the Supreme Court halted the counting in Florida

640
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Speaker 4: and George Bush became President elect.

641
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, the current president elect, is at.

642
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Speaker 4: The highest point of his popularity in his life maybe,

643
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Speaker 4: and he's had quite a life as he rang the

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Speaker 4: bell to the New York Stock Exchange while being named

645
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Speaker 4: Time Magazine's Person of the Year, and he's being fedted

646
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Speaker 4: by everyone, world leaders and everyone around the world. Time

647
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Speaker 4: magazine also this week named their Athlete of the Year

648
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Speaker 4: as Caitlin Clark, the female basketball player who dominated college

649
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Speaker 4: basketball and then went into the WNBA and has gotten

650
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Speaker 4: all the attention, rightly or wrongly, was also Rookie of

651
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Speaker 4: the Year. She did it, and I didn't read the

652
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Speaker 4: interview in Time Magazine, but Megan Kelly blew her up

653
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Speaker 4: for it, which got a lot of attention because a

654
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Speaker 4: lot of people like Megan Kelly show a lot. Megan

655
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Speaker 4: Kelly blew up Kitlin Clark for referencing white privilege or

656
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Speaker 4: something like that.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know. So a couple of comments. Number One,

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Speaker 2: speaking of Bush v. Gore next hour, I would like

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Speaker 2: to get into how the Democratic Party tried to steal

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Speaker 2: the election in Pennsylvania. Nothing but responsible reporting from great sources.

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Speaker 2: This story is being completely ignored by the mainstream media. Secondly,

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Speaker 2: we've got Craig the healthcare guru, to talk about the

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Speaker 2: healthcare situation. CEO is getting assassinated, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: Next Hour. If you don't get Next Hour, subscribe to

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Speaker 2: podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. My somewhat surprising take

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Speaker 2: on Caitlin Clark. She is one hundred percent wrong, going

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Speaker 2: on and on about white privilege, and she's ashamed and

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And again I didn't read the interview,

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Speaker 2: but I got the gist of it. I grant a

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Speaker 2: fair amount of forgiveness to recent college graduates, particularly female

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Speaker 2: recent college graduates, who've been indoctrinated by the very system

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Speaker 2: that we insist we need to tear down because we do.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're in a no win situation. You

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Speaker 2: become she's doing harm, there's no question.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I disagree with her take, and

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Speaker 4: I wish, but what a horrible situation to be in.

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Speaker 4: You're twenty two years old or whatever. You become world

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Speaker 4: famous and from a small town in Iowa, and all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden, they ask you the big questions of

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Speaker 4: society and you're supposed to have a comment.

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Speaker 2: On it, and young women tend to filter questions like that,

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Speaker 2: not through is this true, but through will adopting that

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Speaker 2: opinion gain me acceptance? God, she was in a no

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Speaker 2: win situation on that one. Less she just said no comment, right,

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Speaker 2: But she's wrong, and we and others will try to

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Speaker 2: convince folks that she's completely wrong. But I don't hate

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Speaker 2: her for it. Oh gosh, No, absolutely not. Armstrong and

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Speaker 2: getty