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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to be the new
Speaker 1: poll question. MC love and give us the results from
Speaker 1: the first hour, and do we have a new poll
Speaker 1: question an hour two, so we flipped it. The first
Speaker 1: hour was which team is most likely to drop out
Speaker 1: of the Final four? Alabama ran away with it, So
Speaker 1: now we're asking who's most likely to jump into the
Speaker 1: Final four with Oklahoma State, Notre Dame Baylor, and just
Speaker 1: for fun, I'm putting a two loss Ohio State team
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Speaker 1: All right, So we got our poll question, We got
Speaker 1: another stat of the day or two coming up, and
Speaker 1: we'll talk to Brian Kelly. Matt Leinert, the Heisman Trophy
Speaker 1: winner at USC. He's got to be giddy with Lincoln
Speaker 1: Riley showing up there. And we did wonder that awkward
Speaker 1: situation where I think the Oklahoma assistants knew, hey, we're
Speaker 1: on the plane with coach, we're going to USC, We're
Speaker 1: going to Southern Cow. I don't know about those Notre
Speaker 1: Dame assistant coaches right now. And I thought it was
Speaker 1: really flawed by the playoff committee last night to admit, hey,
Speaker 1: if you don't have a head coach there, we may
Speaker 1: hold that against you. I don't think you say that publicly,
Speaker 1: even though I think Rhees Davis brought it up. But
Speaker 1: if you're going to let people behind the curtain there
Speaker 1: just because Brian Kelly's not coaching Notre Dame, I can't
Speaker 1: penalize Notre Dame twice you lost your coach. Now you
Speaker 1: wouldn't get a chance to play in the final four
Speaker 1: because you lost your coach it's not fair and was
Speaker 1: surprised that the committee made that acknowledgement public last night.
Speaker 1: Winning the press conference is a new thing with college football.
Speaker 1: You know, you want to be careful before celebrating too
Speaker 1: much because you never know how these things work out.
Speaker 1: But everybody wants to celebrate. USC got their guy, LSU
Speaker 1: got their guy. Maybe Notre Dame gets Luke Fickle from Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: What's Oklahoma do right now? You got a lot of
Speaker 1: kids who are decommitting, certainly from Oklahoma to go to USC.
Speaker 1: The potential Heisman quarterbacks Matt Corrall, Bryce Young c J
Speaker 1: Strout all come from southern California. Lincoln Riley's ability to
Speaker 1: recruit the area is a big plus. And we'll find
Speaker 1: out soon enough if he can turn those five stars
Speaker 1: players into you know, a quality football player for a
Speaker 1: quality football program and bring USC back to the top
Speaker 1: of the Pac twelve. You know, I think he wanted
Speaker 1: the offer from LSU. This is what happens. Sometimes you're
Speaker 1: almost calling the bluff, or a school will call your bluff. Hey,
Speaker 1: if you want to come here, we'll pay you this.
Speaker 1: I think Lincoln Riley wanted the twelve million dollar offer
Speaker 1: but I think he wanted to stay at Oklahoma, and
Speaker 1: Oklahoma may have just said no, we're not going to
Speaker 1: pay you that. Then all of a sudden agent catches
Speaker 1: wind of it, and then maybe you're able to okay,
Speaker 1: I got a number here, usc you involved in? Hey,
Speaker 1: you want in? You do one? Okay, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, that's it. Then it's done. So Lincoln
Speaker 1: Riley turning it down, and then that opened the door
Speaker 1: for LSU to say, will If you're Brian Kelly, you
Speaker 1: might say, all right, I've got more wins than anybody
Speaker 1: in the history of Notre Dame. I'm not winning a
Speaker 1: national title here. I might compete, I might be in
Speaker 1: the conversation, but we're not winning. And now I have
Speaker 1: this opportunity at age sixty, I've done everything, this program
Speaker 1: is in good hands. Now I have a chance to
Speaker 1: go to LSU. I'm going to double or triple my salary,
Speaker 1: and I have a better chance of winning a national championship.
Speaker 1: Is there a classy way, a tactful way of saying goodbye?
Speaker 1: You know, this is one of those situations where you
Speaker 1: meet with your players, you speak for about four minutes,
Speaker 1: and it's awkward. Uncomfortable, but at least he did meet
Speaker 1: him face to face and tell him that. I just
Speaker 1: don't know, given today's system, if there's a tactful way
Speaker 1: of doing this now from what I'm told Luke Fickle,
Speaker 1: you know he wants to coach Cincinnati if they're in
Speaker 1: the final four, and will Notre Dame wait for him
Speaker 1: if he's the number one candidate? Will they wait for
Speaker 1: Luke Fickle? And I believe they will if they think
Speaker 1: that they can get him. It's the recruiting part of this.
Speaker 1: That's if I'm a recruit and you're out on the road,
Speaker 1: I want to know, Okay, who's the offensive defensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: who's the head coach going to be? Because if you
Speaker 1: wait for Luke Fickle, you've got to wait another month.
Speaker 1: And this is a really important time with recruiting, and
Speaker 1: that's where it gets tricky. But Notre Dame right now,
Speaker 1: you're not hearing candidates. And that's what made me think
Speaker 1: Luke Fickle's probably thinking, let me coach Cincinnati. I owe
Speaker 1: it to them, and then I'll take that job. Don't
Speaker 1: know if that's going to happen. Don't know if he's
Speaker 1: the number one candidate, but it feels like there's not names.
Speaker 1: From my source, he didn't have any names, and he said,
Speaker 1: that's interesting because you would think you would have names
Speaker 1: attached immediately. I don't know if there's in house names,
Speaker 1: but I do think that there's a very short list
Speaker 1: of names that they're considering. It notre Dame Yeampoe. Going
Speaker 1: back to USC and what you're saying, is it possible
Speaker 1: It appears that maybe USC was not necessarily pursuing Lincoln
Speaker 1: Riley on their list of people, and it more was
Speaker 1: presented to them as an option out of nowhere. Yes, wow, yes, yeah, yea.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get lucky. But I think that USC was
Speaker 1: looking at a couple of different coaches. Baylor's coach, I
Speaker 1: was State's coach. They probably didn't think they could get
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, and they probably because o'kloona was going into
Speaker 1: the SEC and you're thinking, all right, we're not going
Speaker 1: to get him. And then LSU was basically just you know,
Speaker 1: trying to throw something against the wall and see if
Speaker 1: it would stick. You know. I was told USC put
Speaker 1: feelers out with Brian Kelly. I mean, why not take
Speaker 1: a shot. That's what happened with LSU. With Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 1: Oh he's interested, Oh okay, And then did he go
Speaker 1: back to Oklahoma and say twelve million and I'll stay.
Speaker 1: And then if they said no, somebody catches win that
Speaker 1: there's a number attached to this. Now all of a
Speaker 1: sudden he said, no, does he really want to go
Speaker 1: to LSU. Let's just take a chance. That's what happens.
Speaker 1: You're just you're just figuring, Okay, when when do we
Speaker 1: make our move here? And if USC waited till the
Speaker 1: last second, eleventh hour and went, hey, we'll pat We're
Speaker 1: gonna give you this, you probably went hell, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: poll You're one thing this week should teach us. Going
Speaker 1: back a month ago when Carson Palmer said on the
Speaker 1: wish list for USC, it was Mike Tomlin and many
Speaker 1: other names. And never's like, no, no, you can't go
Speaker 1: after something like that. There's no can't with when there's
Speaker 1: twelve million dollars or fifteen million dollars, you should call everybody,
Speaker 1: because who would have thought a month ago Brian Kelly
Speaker 1: would be gone and Riley be gone. I know nobody, well,
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley I would see, but not Brian Kelly. You know,
Speaker 1: I just thought Brian Kelly had you know, kind you
Speaker 1: get that emeritus status where you're coaching Notre Dame. Well
Speaker 1: maybe the novelty wore off. Yeah, maybe he just thought,
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't turn down that money. I got
Speaker 1: a chance that I can get anybody I want into school,
Speaker 1: and you can't have that at Notre DA. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: those two coaches are making more than most NFL coaches. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder if these NFL coaches go, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I need to go back to college. That's where the
Speaker 1: money is. Yeah. If I'm like Tomlin, I'm already thinking
Speaker 1: that whole I'm not taking it to motion. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get demoted, and I know you're actually gonna get a
Speaker 1: pay raise. Dude. Peter King from NBC Sports was on
Speaker 1: a radio station in San Francisco ninety five point seven
Speaker 1: the game and apparently not happy about Brian Kelly leaving
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Here's Peter King. I think what Brian Kelly
Speaker 1: did yesterday is an absolute total disgrace. You have ninety
Speaker 1: players and fifteen coaches to be absolutely totally all in,
Speaker 1: But how in the world do you walk out on
Speaker 1: your team. I don't care what the money is and
Speaker 1: they wake up one morning and see on Twitter Brian
Speaker 1: Kelly has reached a ten year, one hundred million dollar
Speaker 1: deal with LSU. Would you feel like you'd be kicked
Speaker 1: right in the cross? I would, and I would be
Speaker 1: angry at Brian Kelly. All right, it's easy to say it.
Speaker 1: This happens every single year. You know, we get out
Speaker 1: the pitchforks, you know, we get out the torches like
Speaker 1: we're angry. Okay, I mean they're gonna be Okay, there's
Speaker 1: a transfer portal. You don't want to play. It's not ideal.
Speaker 1: We know that. What's Brian? How do you do it
Speaker 1: in a tackful way? That's the point I'm trying to
Speaker 1: make here. I mean, is Lincoln Riley a trader at
Speaker 1: Oklahoma students putting up signs? You get somebody from someplace normally,
Speaker 1: I don't think Notre Dame fans were like, I can't,
Speaker 1: but you know, we just got Brian Kelly from Cincinnati. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well okay, so you don't take then, Okay, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Don't take Luke Fickle because you don't want to take
Speaker 1: Luke Fickle from Cincinnati. Eight right, mine, It's it's a
Speaker 1: flawed system. We know that, but it's everybody is involved
Speaker 1: in this, and everybody knows. Are we surprised, Yes? Should
Speaker 1: we be surprised? No? We should not be. Said there's
Speaker 1: no move right now. If you said today Urban Myer's
Speaker 1: taken the job, he's going to Notre Dame, I go
Speaker 1: all right. If you said John Harbaugh's leaving the Ravens,
Speaker 1: he's gonna coach Notre Dame, I go all right. Like,
Speaker 1: coaches move and they have a small window to move.
Speaker 1: Do I like it? No? But it's the system. Until
Speaker 1: college football changes the system, it's going to continue this way.
Speaker 1: And it's it's all clandestine, surreptitiously. It's about the money.
Speaker 1: I mean. But if I'm Brian Kelly, you did your job?
Speaker 1: Is it? You know? Is it? It's awkward, it's uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: It's unfair that these kids are ready to play maybe
Speaker 1: in the final four maybe, And now you hear the
Speaker 1: playoff committee saying, oh, don't have their coach. You can't
Speaker 1: penalize Notre Dame twice. It's embarrassing. Yeah. See, people just
Speaker 1: seem to want their pound to flesh with this one,
Speaker 1: and people who really have no connection to it, whatsoever,
Speaker 1: are like almost morally outraged over how disgusting of an
Speaker 1: act this is when it's a little heavy handed. Okay,
Speaker 1: but are they as outraged that Lincoln Riley left Oklahoma?
Speaker 1: And the answers no, because we don't hold that in
Speaker 1: the same regard as we do Notre Dame, Like, how
Speaker 1: could you leave Notre Dame? Yeah? See well, I think
Speaker 1: part of it too is like you would think that
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly is closer to retiring than signing a ten
Speaker 1: year deal. Yeah, you would think that he's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I got like three four more years left,
Speaker 1: and then I don't know, somebody else will take over
Speaker 1: and say instead you're thinking three or four more years,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you get a huge
Speaker 1: contract at another school. That's what surprised me. It was
Speaker 1: ten years now five years, okay, ten years. It's an eternity,
Speaker 1: you know, Polly, I love Peter King, but for the
Speaker 1: sports media to jab people from taking bigger jobs for
Speaker 1: him one and it's very hypocritical. You know. Nate Burlson
Speaker 1: was great on the Good Morning Football. He got tripled
Speaker 1: his salary to go to CBS Mornings Good he left,
Speaker 1: He left the next day. You know, Peter left places. Uh,
Speaker 1: Mike Greenberg got a huge race and left his radio
Speaker 1: show and it didn't go well. We in the sports media,
Speaker 1: when you're offered three times, you're salary comes your salary,
Speaker 1: it doesn't exit. The exits aren't perfect. You know he
Speaker 1: got it was an offer he couldn't turn down, so
Speaker 1: he couldn't refuse. And you know this, but it'll happen
Speaker 1: again next year, and then this school will take somebody
Speaker 1: from another school, and then that school take somebody from
Speaker 1: another school. That's what it is. It's a game of
Speaker 1: leap frog Brad and North Carolina. Hi, Brad, what's on
Speaker 1: your mind today? Hey? DP, So, with the a SEC
Speaker 1: title game having no meaning on the college football playoff,
Speaker 1: have a little bit of a tongue in cheek proposal
Speaker 1: that whoever coach winsback game should automatically get the Notre
Speaker 1: Dame job. And hear me out on this. Dave Clawson
Speaker 1: has done a fantastic job at wake Forest. It's academically
Speaker 1: rigorous school, smallest d one school I believe in the country.
Speaker 1: And Pat Narts he has done a great job at pitt.
Speaker 1: I think both of them are sneaky get candidates at
Speaker 1: the job, and I'd like to get him out of
Speaker 1: the ACC. All right, well, thank you, Brad. I like
Speaker 1: Brad and North Carolina fan. Let's get him out of
Speaker 1: the ACC. But also like I would tune in to
Speaker 1: the a SEC title game if the winning coach got
Speaker 1: the Notre Dame job. All right, that's interesting, Jack in Michigan.
Speaker 1: Then we'll take a break, make way for Brian Kelly. Hey, Jack,
Speaker 1: he then, I think what these coaches have done is
Speaker 1: just slipped the system on its head. Back in the
Speaker 1: old days, it was the recruit that would be sitting
Speaker 1: at the table with three or four hats in front
Speaker 1: of them, and they'd have all the suspense about which
Speaker 1: hat is he going to put on, and each fumble
Speaker 1: and he grabbed one and then another to made for
Speaker 1: TV special. I think what we should have is these
Speaker 1: coaches have about the top fifty recruits sit there and
Speaker 1: have the coach fumble around with the three or four
Speaker 1: hats and say, who would like to follow me to USC? Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm all for made for TV events. Thank you, Jack.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break. We'll talk to the new LSU
Speaker 1: head coach, Brian Kelly, He's been coming on the show
Speaker 1: for over a decade now and I appreciate I think
Speaker 1: this is his first national interview. But we'll take a break.
Speaker 1: We'll come back with Brian Kelly, more of your phone calls,
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Speaker 1: to your phone calls coming up. Poll question mclovin for
Speaker 1: hour or two is who's most likely to jump into
Speaker 1: the final four that's on the outside now, Oklahoma State
Speaker 1: is one, then Notre Dame number two. He is Brian Kelly,
Speaker 1: the LSU head coach, joining us on the program. Good morning, coach. Congratulations,
Speaker 1: how do you feel. I'm a little tired right now,
Speaker 1: but I've got chicory in my coffee down here in
Speaker 1: Louisiana and it tastes really good. Well, you got a
Speaker 1: lot to get used to down there food wise, and
Speaker 1: you're not a poe boy after the contract details were
Speaker 1: released there, so congratulations on that. What does LSU give
Speaker 1: you that Notre Dame could not give you anymore? Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it wasn't it really didn't have
Speaker 1: anything to do with But Notre Dame couldn't give me
Speaker 1: as much as another opportunity, another challenge to come down
Speaker 1: in the sect, you know, to play in you know,
Speaker 1: obviously arguably the best conference in the country, um and
Speaker 1: and the resources here are incredible, so you know, I
Speaker 1: just think another another opportunity one where um, you're going
Speaker 1: to be challenged weekend and week out amongst the best.
Speaker 1: And I was at that time in my career that
Speaker 1: I was I was looking for that new challenge, Dan,
Speaker 1: and UM, I'm really excited. My family is excited. We
Speaker 1: haven't been in this part of the country and we're
Speaker 1: looking forward to it. Our first day in Louisiana was
Speaker 1: yesterday and it's it's pretty exciting. When did you start
Speaker 1: looking for that next challenge? I don't think you you know,
Speaker 1: you're so focused on your team. You know, um that
Speaker 1: that my focus was on my guy at Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: So UM, I don't know that there was ever a
Speaker 1: you know, wandering eye at all. Um. But you know,
Speaker 1: we're curious. We're coaches, right, We're always looking for, you know,
Speaker 1: that that next challenge. And you know, when the season
Speaker 1: was over and and you know, things started to move quickly,
Speaker 1: this opportunity presented itself. And um, that's why we're here
Speaker 1: where we are right now. All right, help me out
Speaker 1: with this. Just understanding that, you know, there's recruiting limitations
Speaker 1: with Notre Dame admissions, m you know, school discipline, those
Speaker 1: kind of things. Rick new Heisl was with this last hour,
Speaker 1: and he said, you know, those are hurdles at Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: With LSU, you don't have those hurdles. How important is
Speaker 1: that that you can go after players and not sit
Speaker 1: there and wait to see if somebody's going to go.
Speaker 1: We'll give you the green light to get somebody in. Well,
Speaker 1: I think each school has distinctions, right, I mean, the
Speaker 1: distinctions at Notre Dame are real, and they are they
Speaker 1: are incredible. But I think that LSU has distinctions as
Speaker 1: well in terms of it's geographical base, its ability to recruit. Um.
Speaker 1: You know the state of Louisiana, as I mentioned to
Speaker 1: you before, you know the facilities here for football. UM.
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't think it's that you know,
Speaker 1: one's you know, the negative over the positive. As much
Speaker 1: as you know we did, we did quite well obviously
Speaker 1: at Notre Dame. UM. You know, giving given who Notre
Speaker 1: Dame is and the distinctions Notre Dame had, we had
Speaker 1: five consecutive ten plus winning seasons, only Alabama and Notre
Speaker 1: Dame did that, and so those distinctions were still ones
Speaker 1: that were easily accomplished. Um. That team is so good.
Speaker 1: I believe that they can be in the College football
Speaker 1: players three out of the last four years here at LSU.
Speaker 1: He's got other distinctions and I mentioned of geographics, facilities,
Speaker 1: incredible fan base, National championship just a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: so all those things are real here too as well.
Speaker 1: Is there a tactful way to say goodbye? Never? It's
Speaker 1: it's it's always difficult because of you know, things get
Speaker 1: leaked and they get out to the media before you
Speaker 1: can actually get in front of your guys. I did
Speaker 1: the best I could. I was on the road recruiting
Speaker 1: and things gotten you out to the media before. But
Speaker 1: I was able to send a note to my guys
Speaker 1: and then get in front of them yesterday at seven
Speaker 1: am and tell them I loved them. I love my guys,
Speaker 1: and they know I love them, and I think they're
Speaker 1: one of the best four teams in the country and
Speaker 1: they deserved to play in college football playoffs. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: wondered how important it was to be the all time
Speaker 1: leader in victories at Notre Dame, which you did this season,
Speaker 1: and then at age sixty, you know, you might look
Speaker 1: around and go, I've done. I've left Notre Dame in
Speaker 1: good hands, you know, twelve years and where we are
Speaker 1: and who we are and what we are that I
Speaker 1: can be selfish and do something for myself. How how
Speaker 1: accurate is that? Well, I can tell you that the
Speaker 1: charge that I had was to modernize Notre Dame football,
Speaker 1: bring it back to relevance and consistency as one of
Speaker 1: the top programs in the country. And we check all
Speaker 1: those boxes. I was never going to Notre Dame to
Speaker 1: be the all time winning as coach. That kind of
Speaker 1: happened along the way. You know, our process was about
Speaker 1: you know, graduating champions, and we did that, and you know,
Speaker 1: the outcomes were what they were, but that was never
Speaker 1: my intent. It was to modernize college the football program,
Speaker 1: which we did with infrastructure and improvements. Um. It was
Speaker 1: certainly about consistency in performance and in graduating you know,
Speaker 1: our football players, and all of those things were accomplished.
Speaker 1: And you know, I didn't just wake up one day
Speaker 1: and say, oh, I've done all this and kind of
Speaker 1: you know, said all right, it's time to move on.
Speaker 1: But I saw this as an credible opportunity and excited
Speaker 1: about the next chapter. He's LSU head coach Brian Kelly.
Speaker 1: When's the first time LSU reached out to your representative. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, my my my agent, UM handles all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And so I couldn't tell you exactly, Dan, because he
Speaker 1: doesn't he doesn't keep being the loop on all these things.
Speaker 1: I think he kind of calls me when he thinks
Speaker 1: the time is right. So it was after, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously um our last game and he started deal pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: Did USC reach out at any point? You know, I
Speaker 1: think I think there was a lot of interest from
Speaker 1: other schools, but Um again, you know I think that
Speaker 1: from me, Um, you know, it was let's get through
Speaker 1: the season. And once we did, we kind of measured
Speaker 1: what was the best situation for me. If you were
Speaker 1: ranked third right now, coach, would you still be in
Speaker 1: Louis Sienna? Oh, I don't know, Dan, You know, those
Speaker 1: those are those are tough questions, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty honest guy, and and and would would
Speaker 1: tell you, but those those are so hard to you know,
Speaker 1: to answer relative to what I've had done something different
Speaker 1: in that situation. And I really couldn't tell you, to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, um, because it's not the case. Um.
Speaker 1: But but I really couldn't answer that question. What's the
Speaker 1: status of your assistant coaches at Notre Dame. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: so you know we're going to hire the best coaches, right.
Speaker 1: You know, I had great coaches at Notre Dame. We
Speaker 1: can hire great coaches here at LSU. So, um, you
Speaker 1: know they're employed right now at Notre Dame. And um,
Speaker 1: you know, certainly we have to be sensitive to that fact.
Speaker 1: Other guys that I would I love to ask some
Speaker 1: of those guys join me here. Absolutely, but we have
Speaker 1: to go through the right process. Um. And you know
Speaker 1: that's that's going to be a food situation. Is that
Speaker 1: part of your exit with Notre Dame that you can't
Speaker 1: poach your assistant coaches? No? No, I mean look, I
Speaker 1: mean at the end of the day, you're not going
Speaker 1: to do something that is morally or ethically, um, you know,
Speaker 1: not sound um, and you're going to work with the
Speaker 1: university that you just left. But like I said, there's
Speaker 1: there's there's good coaches here that I want to talk to.
Speaker 1: There's there's certainly great coaches that I work with it
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. But we're going to do it the right way.
Speaker 1: What happens to all your Notre Dame gear I was
Speaker 1: going to send some of it to you like that.
Speaker 1: But I've swimmed down a little. But you're so skinny,
Speaker 1: I don't know. You probably need a sch medium. Right. Well,
Speaker 1: I got Fritzie and Fritzie, I'm sure we'll be able
Speaker 1: to fit into than. You could take some of my exls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now do you just leave everything? Did you take any
Speaker 1: notre Dame gear? Um, we haven't gotten a chance to
Speaker 1: do that yet. Um. This has been kind of a
Speaker 1: Waldwin kind of deal. Um, so we haven't really gotten
Speaker 1: a chance to even get back to the you know,
Speaker 1: the packing of my damn Patrick trophy. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: haven't even got that packed yet. Okay, were you building
Speaker 1: a house? What happens now? Were you building a house
Speaker 1: on campus? I built it. Yeah, it's it's built, It's done.
Speaker 1: Are you interested? Does that go to Luke Fickle when
Speaker 1: he comes in? If he if he opens up his pocketbook?
Speaker 1: I heard, I heard he's got to pay you know
Speaker 1: that Midwestern money they got to spend. Are you in
Speaker 1: a hotel in Louisiana? Yeah, I'm on the on campus hotel.
Speaker 1: Um and great accommodations and plenty? Is it both potatoships?
Speaker 1: What is the most surreal moment of the last seventy
Speaker 1: two hours. Uh, you know, I just think that the
Speaker 1: whole thing, you know, from getting off a flag yesterday
Speaker 1: at five thirty am from the West coast, talking to
Speaker 1: the team, getting back on the flight, talking to the team,
Speaker 1: it's just the continuation of closure to starting a new
Speaker 1: It's just like one, one continuous moment in time, and
Speaker 1: you just don't have a chance to take a breath. Okay, waitmute.
Speaker 1: You're recruiting in LA yesterday. Yes, okay, how does that work?
Speaker 1: That you're recruiting and then do you get on the
Speaker 1: plane and find out that you're taking over? Yes? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. So you're recruiting as Notre Dame's head coach,
Speaker 1: get on a plane en route back to South Bend,
Speaker 1: you find out that this deal has been solidified. Yes, sir, Wow,
Speaker 1: two stories was who was on the plane with you?
Speaker 1: My attorney. That's smart, that's smart. Well, okay, that would
Speaker 1: be the heads up though, if your attorney is on
Speaker 1: the flight, coach, that's not your normal recruiting trip. No,
Speaker 1: I know, but we picked them up at the airport
Speaker 1: because it already was starting to leak out. Oh god,
Speaker 1: So you land and all of a sudden, you're no
Speaker 1: longer Notre Dame's head coach, and now you have resigned.
Speaker 1: Oh my god? And then what an hour and a
Speaker 1: half later you get your kids together? Yes, yeah, we
Speaker 1: had sent out attach before we left Orange County and
Speaker 1: then and let them know that we would have a
Speaker 1: seven amt meeting. Did you follow up with the recruits
Speaker 1: to say, hey, if you're not interested in Notre Dame,
Speaker 1: you can join me in LSU of course, not Dan,
Speaker 1: of course not. What is it I'm talking to Judge Judy,
Speaker 1: Now I would do that? Wait, I mean, are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? That's Lincoln. Riley's bringing players who d committed
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma. Well, Lincoln, Lincoln can do what Lincoln wants
Speaker 1: to do. Brian is going to do what he does,
Speaker 1: all right. What's planned for the rest of the day. Um,
Speaker 1: We're gonna do some photo shoots with the family. UM.
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to find some temporary housing. Um.
Speaker 1: And then I'm going to meet with a number of smaller,
Speaker 1: smaller media types, not the power brokers like you. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, well, congratulations and uh we'll stay in touch.
Speaker 1: All right, great talking to you as always. That's Brian Kelly,
Speaker 1: former Notre Dame head coach. Was I rough there was?
Speaker 1: I said, was Judge Judy. I was like, wait, I'm
Speaker 1: just asking you questions. I mean, I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 1: the questions locally will be a little user friendly, but
Speaker 1: I'm just curious. Yes, you hit him with the heater
Speaker 1: right out of the gate, though it certainly set the tone. Yes,
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I can't you know what I Normally when
Speaker 1: he comes on, we can talk about a variety of things,
Speaker 1: we can have some fun. This is different, this is
Speaker 1: this is really different, and you got to ask those questions.
Speaker 1: And do I think that USC reached out? Yes? I do,
Speaker 1: because he basically said that a number of schools did
Speaker 1: USC had fielders ound you're recruiting in California? When when
Speaker 1: the attorney gets on the plane. If I'm on the plane,
Speaker 1: I'm going, Oh, your attorney doesn't get on a plane
Speaker 1: just to go hey can I can I jump? Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm going to South Bends carpooling. Yeah, oh you're headed
Speaker 1: that way in let me hop in. Yeah, you're not
Speaker 1: there to negotiate the inflight meal? No, yes, time is it?
Speaker 1: Latham and Horvath tom Brady Attorneys, because those are the
Speaker 1: guys you want. Yes time. Maybe the attorney has these
Speaker 1: great skills with the parents and you can help warm
Speaker 1: up the mom on the couch that he who knows
Speaker 1: that's why they had already recruited they were heading back.
Speaker 1: That would make a lot of sense what I just said,
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying. Probably not as I actually believe
Speaker 1: him that he didn't call back those recruispies. Why does
Speaker 1: he need no name recruits when he's at LSU next level? Wow? Wow? Wow?
Speaker 1: Why didn't you raise your hand when I asked Coach
Speaker 1: Kelly that because I'd go, oh, mclovin has a question
Speaker 1: for you, Coach I the gutsy questions at Coach Kelly,
Speaker 1: that's your department. I was, I love how you know
Speaker 1: somehow I'm unethical that I'm saying, would you tell those recruits, hey,
Speaker 1: if you don't want to go to notre name, you
Speaker 1: can come play for me at LSU. Somehow that's unethical
Speaker 1: in a world, that's unethical. I'm asking a question the
Speaker 1: audacity of that you got Lincoln Riley and all those
Speaker 1: d commits. Is he supposed to say, no, you committed
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma and you stay there, man, that's not the
Speaker 1: way it works. Let's see Nathan in La. Nathan, welcome
Speaker 1: to the program. Good to talk again, Dan. I was
Speaker 1: just thinking about a really big potential opportunity for the playoff.
Speaker 1: And it's one of the reasons I think this playoff
Speaker 1: isn't exciting, is potentially ever and that's the potential of
Speaker 1: a Michigan Notre Dame playoff game. Now. I don't think
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is getting in over Cincinnati. I don't think
Speaker 1: the committee can legitimize that because Cincinnati beat them head
Speaker 1: to head. But if either Alabama loses in they're out,
Speaker 1: or if Cincinnati loses, I would think if you're the committee,
Speaker 1: you would fall over yourself to try to make Michigan
Speaker 1: Notre Dame happen. Oh yeah, I mean I've said many
Speaker 1: many times for many many years. It's a TV show.
Speaker 1: Thank you for the phone called Nathan. If Cincinnati wins,
Speaker 1: they're in. But if Alabama loses, who's going in? Is
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State? If Oklahoma State loses to Baylor, Cincinnati beats Houston,
Speaker 1: Alabama loses to Georgia, Michigan. Let's say Michigan beats Iowa,
Speaker 1: then Notre Dame is probably going in unless and here's
Speaker 1: the language. This is what was said last night. Gary
Speaker 1: Barda is the selection committee chairman. Then he said this
Speaker 1: last night on the Mothership, explaining how Brian Kelly's departure
Speaker 1: could affect Notre Dame's postseason hopes once the championship games
Speaker 1: wrap up. Our protocol does include the ability for the
Speaker 1: committee to consider a player or a coach not being available.
Speaker 1: Should that have an effect on the outcome of a game,
Speaker 1: that can be considered. At this point, We'll have to
Speaker 1: wait and see how that actors in. Okay, what status
Speaker 1: of player or let's say the defensive coordinator decides to leave,
Speaker 1: or the offensive coordinator decides to leave. Let's say if
Speaker 1: you have a left tackle who's a first round pick
Speaker 1: who doesn't play, Like, at what point do you say
Speaker 1: I got to draw the line? There is this about
Speaker 1: a quarterback and a coach and nobody else. Well, a quarterback,
Speaker 1: I could understand the head coach. If Nick Saban is
Speaker 1: not coaching in the final four, let's say they make it.
Speaker 1: Alabama is still a really good team. Kirby smart, he
Speaker 1: doesn't have to coach, and George's defense is still going
Speaker 1: to be really good and they're not even calling the plays.
Speaker 1: But I can't fathom that the committee's going to go
Speaker 1: you know, Notre Dame doesn't have Brian Kelly. Yeah. Lets
Speaker 1: you know what, let's punish Dame twice. They lost their
Speaker 1: head coach, and now because they lost their head coach,
Speaker 1: they don't get to be in the final four. It
Speaker 1: makes no sense whatsoever, you know, poem. Years ago, we
Speaker 1: had Nick Sabanon and you asked him which he enjoyed more,
Speaker 1: coaching practice or coaching the games. He said he actually practice.
Speaker 1: And he went on to say something and I'm paraphrasing,
Speaker 1: I'm much more important during the week than I am
Speaker 1: on Saturday. He said. The coaching staff is limited what
Speaker 1: they can do on Saturday, but we do most of
Speaker 1: our work during the week. All right, Well, take a
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Speaker 1: twenty four seven over exceptionally common since I'm spent after
Speaker 1: the interview with Brian Kelly. You know, I figured he
Speaker 1: just built a house on campus, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe you could reach out to Luke Fickle and see
Speaker 1: if that he's interested in that. Eight seven seven three
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Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Hey? Dan? Always a great pleasure?
Speaker 1: He does he really think that we're that gullible? You're
Speaker 1: making a recruiting trip with your attorney and you haven't
Speaker 1: even talked to LSU until he lands that. Then how
Speaker 1: he left you. Look, if you want to take the job,
Speaker 1: you take the job. How he left is absolute garbage.
Speaker 1: And for him to see on your show that he
Speaker 1: was making a recruiting trip four Notre Dame, not sure
Speaker 1: he was going to take the LSU job. Dan, whoever
Speaker 1: believes that? I mean, you've got to be kidding me, Dan,
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts. That's that's just how
Speaker 1: he leaves. Dan. Look at Central Michigan, Cincinnati, UM now
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. How he leaves says more about him than
Speaker 1: the fact that he's leaving. I just wanted to get
Speaker 1: your thoughts. Dan. All right, I know you're fired up there,
Speaker 1: Phil m thanks for the phone call. He had to
Speaker 1: make the recruiting trip, and you go out to Orange
Speaker 1: County and if the you know, the LSU deal falls apart,
Speaker 1: you know, he's still got to be the Notre Dame
Speaker 1: head coach. But you know, maybe he stayed out there
Speaker 1: because they had the game on Saturday night. Then Sunday
Speaker 1: they recruit and then they fly back, although flying back
Speaker 1: with your attorney, that one is a little bit different.
Speaker 1: When I asked him who who was on the plane.
Speaker 1: If it's not you know, Brian Kelly this year, it's
Speaker 1: going to be somebody else next year. Like it happens.
Speaker 1: It's the system. You know, these these job openings when
Speaker 1: they come up. Who thought that ed Orgeron was going
Speaker 1: to be fired two years after winning a nation title?
Speaker 1: Who would have thought that? Okay, Oklahoma's going into the SEC.
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley doesn't want to coach in the SEC, but
Speaker 1: he'll take an offer from the SEC and then use
Speaker 1: that offer to go back to Oklahoma. It doesn't work there,
Speaker 1: and then USC swoops in eleventh hour. This is all happening.
Speaker 1: You know seventy two hours. It's kind of crazy. Now,
Speaker 1: this is what happens. Source just text me during the
Speaker 1: commercial break and said, you have to put feelers out
Speaker 1: that you're willing to listen. That's what happens. And my
Speaker 1: source said, look, it could be Brian, it could be Lincoln.
Speaker 1: You have to let people know you're available. That's the key,
Speaker 1: or not available, like Kirk Ferns is not available. He's
Speaker 1: at Iowa, had opportunities and he's not leaving. But Brian
Speaker 1: Kelly had to let or his representatives to let schools
Speaker 1: know that, Hey, I'll listen, Lincoln Riley, I'll listen. Now,
Speaker 1: this doesn't come from the coach. That comes from their agents,
Speaker 1: because the agents will then you know, they go third party,
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and then that's that's where a coach
Speaker 1: keeps his hands clean, and that's what happens in these situations.
Speaker 1: You know the fact that LSU reached out to Brian
Speaker 1: Kelly before the season started just to gauge interest. USC
Speaker 1: maybe did that right after they fired Clay Hilton, but USC,
Speaker 1: from what I'm told, did reach out feelers with Brian Kelling.
Speaker 1: Now does Brian Kelly let them know their interest that
Speaker 1: he's interested, but he didn't deny USC. But this is
Speaker 1: what happens behind the scenes. Now, Luke Fickle, if he
Speaker 1: leaves Cincinnati, are going to be outraged upset? No, it's
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly left Notre Dame. I don't know who's outraged
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma. Well about Lincoln Riley leaving Oklahoma. Oklahoma is upset,
Speaker 1: but but nationally, Brian Kelly somehow did something that was
Speaker 1: more egregious than what Lincoln Riley did. They sort of
Speaker 1: did the same thing. This comes down to likability root
Speaker 1: for root against Notre Dame Lincoln Riley. Outside of Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: you're probably not, you know, finding too many people outraged
Speaker 1: by this. But what Brian Kelly did, like Peter King,
Speaker 1: was you know, beside himself upset. Can we play just
Speaker 1: the start of that. Peter King in a radio interview
Speaker 1: talking about Brian Kelly leaving to go to LSU. I
Speaker 1: think what Brian Kelly did yesterday is an absolute total disgrace.
Speaker 1: You have ninety players and fifteen coaches to be absolutely
Speaker 1: totally all in. But was he upset with Lincoln Riley?
Speaker 1: Is it going to be upset at Luke Fickle. It's
Speaker 1: just it's Notre Dame. And I'm not defending Brian Kelly.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I mean, I'd love when a
Speaker 1: coach stays. I love that Luke Fickle is going to
Speaker 1: want to coach his team in the Final four because
Speaker 1: you should. But the system is crying out for you
Speaker 1: to leave that school so you can start recruiting. Is
Speaker 1: it the coach's fault, it's the system. It's signing day.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot involved in this. But if
Speaker 1: you know you leave your job, you got to give
Speaker 1: two weeks notice. That's not the way it is in
Speaker 1: college football. And yes it seems slimy, and it is
Speaker 1: kids leave short notice, transfer portal. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: what college athletics is all about now, big time college athletics.
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly had an offer he couldn't refuse. Probably got
Speaker 1: tired of beating his head against the wall at Notre Dame. Hey,
Speaker 1: I've done everything. I'm not going to win a championship
Speaker 1: and I can go to LSU and I got a
Speaker 1: better chance there. I mean, I think that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's the feeling I got through all of this. Lincoln
Speaker 1: Riley maybe didn't want to go into the sec. He
Speaker 1: wanted to stand alone. He got a great chance of
Speaker 1: doing what he did at Oklahoma at USC I understand it,
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