1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Welcomed Aaron Manky's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of iHeart 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Radio and Grim and Mild. Our world is full of 3 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: the unexplainable, and if history is an open book, all 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: of these amazing tales are right there on display, just 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet of Curiosities. 6 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: Walk through any grocery store and you'll find countless items 7 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: with interesting backstories. Corn Flakes, for example, were invented by 8 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: John Harvey Kellogg and his brother as a way to 9 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: curb one's passions. They were bland and flavorless, exactly what 10 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: lustful patients at his sanatorium needed to keep their hands 11 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: off each other and themselves. And thanks to botanist William 12 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: Hughes's work in South America during the seventeenth century, people 13 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: all over America and Europe now enjoy piping hot cups 14 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: of cocoa every winter. But before one particular item showed 15 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: up in grocery stores and farmers markets, it stood as 16 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: a symbol for wealth and aristocracy. It was discussed as 17 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: though it would have been handcrafted by the House of 18 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: Faberge itself. For those privileged enough to afford it, This 19 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: item originally hailed from South America, where the two Pamba 20 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 1: people grew and ate it. According to an English translation 21 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: of Andre Tovey's fifteen sixty eight original French account The 22 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: New Found World, it was called hairiri. But these things 23 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: were notoriously difficult to transport, making the rare few that 24 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: found their way to Europe prohibitively expensive. Christopher Columbus had 25 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: encountered them back in the late fourteen hundreds and had 26 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: even tried to grow his own once he returned to Spain, 27 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: but failed. These fruits could only be grown in a 28 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: tropical climate. It wasn't until the mid sixteen hundreds when 29 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: John Evelyn, and English gardener, discovered the key to growing 30 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: hiri res in local hot houses. His efforts proved uh fruitful, 31 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: but were expanded upon by a later gardener around seventy. However, 32 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: despite England's success at growing them, by the eighteenth century, 33 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: hohiri rees hadn't shed their exorbitant price tags due to 34 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: the level of carot took to cultivate them. Royal monarchs 35 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: and the upper class hired gardeners to grow the elusive fruits. 36 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: They also spent unfathomable amounts of money for the privilege 37 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: of eating what few could get their hands on. Rich 38 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: Americans living in the colonies at the time also treated 39 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: the hiriri as a status symbol. They brought theirs in 40 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: from the Caribbean rather than Europe, and paid the equivalent 41 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: of about eight thousand dollars today just to display them 42 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: in their homes. And that's right. Due to their high 43 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: price tags and difficulty in importing them, colonists didn't eat 44 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: them right away. They were centerpieces, something for guests to 45 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: admire during parties and formal gatherings. It wasn't until they 46 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: started rotting when the fruits would be carved up and eaten. 47 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: For those who couldn't afford to buy one out right, 48 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: a booming rental business popped up, allowing the less affluent 49 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: a lease one for the night to show off to 50 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: friends at family The following day, the item would be 51 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: returned to the merchant for someone else to rent next. 52 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: It didn't matter that they didn't own it, because for 53 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: one evening, the average person could feel like royalty and 54 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: make their peers jealous at the same time. Now, just 55 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: looking at the hiriri, one wouldn't think that they were 56 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: all that glamorous. Their exteriors are brown, hard and spiky. 57 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: A tall collection of green waxy leaves springs from the top, 58 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: like in eruption. Frozen in time, they were unbecoming, but 59 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: their rarity made them coveted among society's elite. For over 60 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: two hundred years. The hiriri was also featured in patterns 61 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: that appeared on fabrics, wallpapers, and furniture. Those who couldn't 62 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: have the real thing settled for copies carved or printed 63 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: onto other surfaces. And then, in nineteen hundred, one man 64 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: figured out a way to bring that beloved fruit to 65 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: the masses. His name was James Dole, an American industrialist 66 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: who had moved out to Honolulu, Hawaii, one year earlier 67 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: to start his business. With just sixteen thousand dollars to 68 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: his name, James bought himself a sixty four acre farmland 69 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: on the island of Oahu, where he started growing hiri rees. 70 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: Within seven years, he was canning and packing them for 71 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: distribution throughout the United States. He grew his modest operation 72 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: into a massive plantation, sadly by exploiting foreign labor by 73 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: paying them the lowest wages possible, and those ruthless business practices, 74 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: eliminated nearly all of his competitors and turned his dull 75 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: food company into one of the most successful corporations in 76 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: the world. But nobody today knows what a hiri re is, 77 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: despite its importance throughout history. That's because Andre Tovey didn't 78 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: have another name for it at the time that he 79 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: wrote his account, But based on the clues he left, 80 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: historians believe he actually had encountered a fruit found in 81 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: many foods we enjoy today, including sangria, upside down cakes, 82 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: and you better believe it. Occasionally on pizza, the fruit 83 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: was the pineapple. There are some coincidences that seem too 84 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: wild to be ignored, the kinds of coincidences where you 85 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: have to wonder if there are other forces at play, like, 86 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: for instance, how Stephen Hawking just happens to share his 87 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: birth and death date with Galileo and Albert Einstein, or 88 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: how Violet Jessup survived not one or even two, but 89 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: three major ocean liner sinkings. Then there are other coincidences 90 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: of absolutely no consequence whatsoever, having nothing to do with 91 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: life or death, but are all still remarkably unexplainable. That's 92 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: the kind of coincidence that nineteenth century poets Emile de 93 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: Champ found himself in a star poet of his time. 94 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: The Shamp found his inspiration in Victor Hugo, and his 95 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: writing would earn the praise of Napoleon himself. Yet words 96 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: would not be able to describe what was set in 97 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: motion the day the Champ was first introduced to plum pudding. Now, 98 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: when the Shamp was still a teenager, he happened upon 99 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: an English immigrant with the curious name of Messieur Defourgebou. 100 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: There is very little known about this person, but the 101 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: one thing he is known for is being the man 102 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: who took it upon himself to show Emil de Shamp 103 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: the wonder of the very English dessert called plum pudding. 104 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: It turns out to Shamp liked it. He didn't love 105 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: it per se, but he did enjoy it, And after 106 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: that he bid for Jabu Adeu, and the two go 107 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: on their separate ways, not even a notable stop on 108 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: the timeline in either of their lives. But fast forward 109 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: ten years now, in the throes of his poetry accolades, 110 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: the Shamp was walking through Paris, taking in the sights. 111 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: He was looking for a snack something to satiate his cravings. 112 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: When he passed a French restaurant and check the menu, 113 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: and there it was plum pudding. The Shamp proceeded to 114 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: go into the restaurant and order the pudding, only to 115 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: be told that's unfortunately, sir, the last had just been sold. 116 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: But the waiter called out into the restaurant, Mossieur defourgebou, 117 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: would you be willing to share your plum pudding with 118 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: this gentleman? And sure enough, there in the back of 119 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: the restaurant was the man who had introduced De Shamp 120 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: to the plum pudding in the first place, and they 121 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: met again over plum pudding, in a situation that must 122 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: have given them both a good laugh. Fast forward several 123 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: more years and de Shamp found himself at a dinner 124 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: party socializing with his circle of close friends. At some point, though, 125 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: the host stepped into the room and announced that dessert 126 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: was about to be served. And if you have any 127 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: doubts as to what that dessert would be, you're clearly 128 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: not listening. In a most improbable happenstance, that dessert is 129 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: the very English plum pudding. Now I know what you're wondering, 130 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: but where was Massieur Defourgebou, and was de Shamps thinking 131 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: about him? Which is when the doorbell rang and the 132 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: host announced the arrival of a new guest, none other 133 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: than Messieur Defourgebou. The Shamps, as you might imagine, was 134 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: blown away. Sure, the years had taken their toll on 135 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: both of these men, but the Champs recognized the paragon 136 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: of plum pudding standing right there in the flesh. Only 137 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: Defourgebou did not stay long. It only took a moment 138 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: before he realized that he had arrived at the wrong apartment. 139 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: He had been invited to a dinner party, for sure, 140 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: but it wasn't that one, and so he turned to leave, 141 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: unaware that the desserts about to be served was the 142 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: very dessert he's so strongly advocated for all those years ago. 143 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: It would be, however, the last time the two men 144 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: would see each other alive. An amazing string of coincidences 145 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: and a fantastic set of stories. There's no way to 146 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: explain them, but at least we get to enjoy them now, 147 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: and I think we can at least agree on exactly 148 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: how to classify such random coincidental meetings. Utterly curious. I 149 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: hope you've enjoyed today's guided tour of the Cabinet of Curiosities. 150 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: Subscribe for free on Apple pod Guests, or learn more 151 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: about the show by visiting Curiosities podcast dot com. The 152 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: show was created by me Aaron Mankey in partnership with 153 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: how Stuff Works. 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