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Speaker 1: This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
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Speaker 2: What is up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 2: I am your host Travis Wingfield. On today's show, the
Speaker 2: Patrick Paul episode is in. We'll break down everything about
Speaker 2: the Dolphins second round draft pick on Friday night in
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four NFL Draft, the Mammoth tackle from
Speaker 2: the Houston Cougar Worldwide. Down the tape, discuss the fit,
Speaker 2: get the data here from the draft experts, get Mike
Speaker 2: McDaniel and Chris Greer's evaluations and thoughts, and take a
Speaker 2: brief look in the day three and tell you about
Speaker 2: some of my annoying trends so far from this draft
Speaker 2: season that I've noticed off Twitter dot con. From the
Speaker 2: Baptist Hell Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This
Speaker 2: is the Drive Time Podcast. With the fifty fifth pick.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four, the Dolphins made Houston's Patrick Paul
Speaker 2: the newest member of the Auckland Orange.
Speaker 1: So there you go.
Speaker 2: You get your offensive lineman that I read so much
Speaker 2: about in the last twenty four hours. Build your waller
Speaker 2: on the quarterback, right, we got him. We start the
Speaker 2: film here, and my first exposure to Patrick Paul was
Speaker 2: that the Senior Bowl this year.
Speaker 1: I thought I was I thought that that was one of.
Speaker 2: The more impressive performers at this year's Senior Bowl. Massive,
Speaker 2: massive human being six foot seven and a half, three
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty one pounds, thirty bench reps with thirty
Speaker 2: six inch arms is absolutely insane. That's ninety third percentile
Speaker 2: all time at the combine with bench press and with
Speaker 2: arms that are also in that similar category.
Speaker 1: The five one three forty yard.
Speaker 2: Dash was eighty first percentile all time among tackle and
Speaker 2: the height and weight both in the ninety second percentile
Speaker 2: with an eighty third percent Tile ten split time of
Speaker 2: one seven seven. So to be that big and to
Speaker 2: move that well and to be that strong, you can
Speaker 2: see what the thinking is here with a player who
Speaker 2: didn't have great college tape at Houston, and how the
Speaker 2: projection for the best ball of his career to be next.
Speaker 1: That's kind of the thinking here with this player.
Speaker 2: But back to the tape, the strength again was evident
Speaker 2: There were reps at that Senior Bowl where he positively
Speaker 2: ragged all guys. There were reps where I thought he
Speaker 2: got a little bit exposed by giving access to his
Speaker 2: chest play and then guys were able to get him
Speaker 2: going backwards on the track to the quarterback. So I
Speaker 2: think you look at the good reps and see what
Speaker 2: he was able to do. Then you look at the
Speaker 2: not so good reps and you see what went wrong
Speaker 2: there and where you can't correct that, And wouldn't you
Speaker 2: know it. Chris Greer and Mike McDaniel said the exact
Speaker 2: same thing in their Friday night recap presser after taking
Speaker 2: Patrick ball.
Speaker 4: Yes, we feel confident that he can swing. Obviously, he's
Speaker 4: been a left tackle that we spent a lot of
Speaker 4: time with. We met with him at the Senior Bowl
Speaker 4: for a while the combine. We had him here on
Speaker 4: a thirty visit, so he was very enthusiastic about his
Speaker 4: intensions of wanting to play here. He really enjoyed his
Speaker 4: interactions with the coaching staff and us and watching him
Speaker 4: on film and some of the things we liked about
Speaker 4: how he plays, and he knows he's got some things
Speaker 4: to work on. He's very honest and direct, and that's
Speaker 4: what we really appreciated, and we're very excited to work
Speaker 4: with him because I think he's a very talented player.
Speaker 2: And that's going to be a theme throughout the soundbites
Speaker 2: be played for you guys here. And I appreciate the
Speaker 2: transparency about the approach and the process there from both
Speaker 2: Mike and Chris. We've seen that be the case with
Speaker 2: some draft picks here in the past, and they've turned
Speaker 2: out to be some of our best players. I think
Speaker 2: about Austin Jackson, a twenty year old who got better
Speaker 2: and better and broke out last season after an injury
Speaker 2: really wiped out his entire third year back in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two and kind of put a plateau into that
Speaker 2: projection or that growth for the time being, and then
Speaker 2: he ends up having the breakout season in year number four.
Speaker 2: And that's not so uncommon for offensive lineman. That takes
Speaker 2: some time, especially given the modern college game. The way
Speaker 2: it's coached right now in college is just different. It's like,
Speaker 2: get up off the ground, get back to the line
Speaker 2: of scrimmage. We can go fast and get our playoff
Speaker 2: here in the next fifteen seconds. Get your signals from
Speaker 2: the sideline and let's go just more of a focus
Speaker 2: on getting back to the line than there is finishing blocks,
Speaker 2: and that creates some bad habits and technique. I think
Speaker 2: that's kind of the issue here with Patrick Paul and
Speaker 2: one of the fastest offense is one of the innovators
Speaker 2: and originators of the hurry up, get to the line
Speaker 2: of scrimmage offenses in Dana Holgersson there with the Houston
Speaker 2: Cougars previously at West Virginia. Obviously, I think it's a
Speaker 2: very real thing that impacts the development of offensive linemen in
Speaker 2: the league and why there's such a scarcity in terms
Speaker 2: of offensive line talent versus the pass rush that we've
Speaker 2: seen get better and better every year, and the old
Speaker 2: line's catching up a little bit and the pendulum's coming
Speaker 2: back a little bit.
Speaker 1: But that's kind of what I wanted to explain to you.
Speaker 2: Guys here in terms of development and why we've seen
Speaker 2: offensive line play kind of deteriorate over the last team
Speaker 2: five ten years in the National Football League. And so
Speaker 2: if you're taking a player with that development track, take
Speaker 2: the most impressive looking player, right, trust your coaches. And
Speaker 2: that's another thing. Who has earned more goodwill or should
Speaker 2: be trusted more than what Butch Berry did last season
Speaker 2: with an offensive line that, again a lot of the
Speaker 2: Dolphins fans out there were not happy with how that
Speaker 2: line looked at the beginning of the year and you
Speaker 2: wind up getting number one offense in the NFL. Now,
Speaker 2: things fell apart late in the season, and that's a
Speaker 2: big part of injuries on the offensive line. But that's
Speaker 2: kind of another reason why you want to make a
Speaker 2: pick here on the offensive line. But I thought Austin Rob,
Speaker 2: Rob Hunt, Isaiah Wim Kendall Lamb all had the best
Speaker 2: years of their careers last season. And Keon Smith went
Speaker 2: from a guy that I didn't think could make a
Speaker 2: ninety man roster to suddenly he makes a fifty three
Speaker 2: man roster and has intrigued for me going forward. He
Speaker 2: looked totally different to me in twenty twenty three than
Speaker 2: he did in twenty twenty two. And that's a testament
Speaker 2: to the Dolphins coaching staff and development plan for Keon Smith.
Speaker 1: And so there's projection there.
Speaker 2: And look, I keep seeing these comments about win now
Speaker 2: the window is closing. It didn't get immediate impact players,
Speaker 2: and we'll address that at the very end of the podcast.
Speaker 2: But if you were drafting just for twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: you're doing it wrong, man, Like. These players are not
Speaker 2: finished products, and you never drafted player for what they
Speaker 2: could be in their rookie season, and some guys' rookie
Speaker 2: years are total washes. Yeah, there's usually some visions, some
Speaker 2: flashes of what it could look like. It's just not
Speaker 2: how the NFL works, man Like, if you're firing off
Speaker 2: tweets about how it's a bad pick because it can't
Speaker 2: help you right away on Week one twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: you don't know what's going on inside the walls of
Speaker 2: an NFL billing. No, nobody've views it that way. Nobody does,
Speaker 2: and the ones that do, they don't last very long.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: That was not the outlook when they began this entire
Speaker 2: rebuild back in twenty nineteen. It was about sustained success,
Speaker 2: and they've done a good job of susaying that success
Speaker 2: in terms of winning double digit games every year except
Speaker 2: for one back to back playoff runs eleven wins last year. Like,
Speaker 2: that's just sustained success is the goal there, and they
Speaker 2: want to be winners that keep going forward, and to
Speaker 2: do that you have to keep the pipeline full and moving,
Speaker 2: and quite frankly, I love the foresight to consider not
Speaker 2: just twenty twenty four, but beyond that. I think that
Speaker 2: both Chop and Paul are guys that will have linear
Speaker 2: progress as they get older and get more pro reps
Speaker 2: and become better versions of themselves every single year they
Speaker 2: go down this thing. Let's go ahead and go back
Speaker 2: to Chris Greer about this pick and ultimately what intrigued
Speaker 2: Miami about Patrick Paul.
Speaker 4: This is an athletic ability for guys because he is
Speaker 4: and just even when he's not perfect with technique, which
Speaker 4: you know, butch and Mike and the staff here Frank
Speaker 4: Cavall shown that that's a very point that symphasized around
Speaker 4: here very heavily so for him, even when he's not perfect,
Speaker 4: when you have a guy that big with that length,
Speaker 4: that he can still block people at times when he's
Speaker 4: not right. But the changes that he made from last
Speaker 4: season even in college into this season, you can see
Speaker 4: the growth in the player and wanting to get better.
Speaker 4: So we're excited. We think he has another level he
Speaker 4: can take it to and he wants to and that's
Speaker 4: an important part that he wants to be good and
Speaker 4: wants to.
Speaker 1: Be coach, So this was a player.
Speaker 2: They spent lots and lots of time with Senior Bowl meeting,
Speaker 2: combine meeting, thirty visit here in South Florida at the
Speaker 2: facility here in Miami Gardens, and they mentioned how eager
Speaker 2: Patrick was about wanting to be a Miami Dolphin. Reer
Speaker 2: mentions that Paul's agent was texting Friday morning, staying, this
Speaker 2: kid's driving me crazy about how bad he wants to
Speaker 2: be there in Miami with you guys.
Speaker 1: I want guys that want to be here too.
Speaker 2: Quite personally, I also want elite athletes with the size
Speaker 2: to be malers. And that's when I saw at the
Speaker 2: Senior Bowl practices, I wrote my notes, I'm intrigued here,
Speaker 2: but I need to see how he operates out in space,
Speaker 2: and literally the next rep in my notes, he pulls
Speaker 2: playside and goes and takes out a cornerback in team
Speaker 2: drills outside the numbers and puts him on his back.
Speaker 2: And I noted this, He's gonna have an unreal tensplit,
Speaker 2: I bet when it comes to the combine, and he
Speaker 2: goes and notches an eighty third percentile ten split and
Speaker 2: when you're ninety third percentile in size. It reminds me
Speaker 2: of a press conference that McDaniel gay when he was
Speaker 2: the OC back in San Francisco, where he was asked
Speaker 2: about the Nailers offensive line being full of late round
Speaker 2: picks and new DFAs, and he said, look, that's not
Speaker 2: like by design, that's just kind of how it worked out.
Speaker 2: But ideally you engineer a seven foot, four hundred pounds
Speaker 2: offensive lineman, and Paul is about as close as it
Speaker 2: gets to just that. So it's almost like a bit
Speaker 2: of a pivot off of what McDaniel had prioritized in
Speaker 2: the past. We knew that two years ago, was hey,
Speaker 2: Tua gets the ball out so fast. He can mitigate
Speaker 2: a lot of the offensive line issues you might have.
Speaker 2: So let's go ahead and maximize the skill set that
Speaker 2: he offers, which is less offensive line, more playmakers to
Speaker 2: make you know, intermediate throws, explosive plays, and they go
Speaker 2: out and get Tyreek Hill. But now he's kind of
Speaker 2: going against the grain with the idea of getting a massive,
Speaker 2: impressive ball of clay and the intentions of developing that
Speaker 2: player under a very good offensive line coach, a very
Speaker 2: good offensive corner a very good head coach who all
Speaker 2: have there have had their their fingers in the pot
Speaker 2: of offensive line play in the past. I mean like
Speaker 2: the pro which makes perfect sense to me. If you
Speaker 2: can't see that, I don't know how else to explain that.
Speaker 2: And if you might not like the player, the approach
Speaker 2: in the idea is all sound and that's all I
Speaker 2: think you can ask for in this process of the draft.
Speaker 2: And how does Patrick Paul use the length that he
Speaker 2: does feature with the eighty seven inch wingspan, thirty six
Speaker 2: inch arms, three hundred and thirty one pound frame, how
Speaker 2: does he use that length to his advantage?
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and go back to Mike and Chris
Speaker 1: one more time.
Speaker 4: But again it's like you talk when he's even when
Speaker 4: he's not perfect, which you know it happens in our
Speaker 4: league college all the time. That length allows him to
Speaker 4: recover because he is so long and he's got some
Speaker 4: strength and power to him that it enables him to
Speaker 4: recover even at times. So that's an intriguing an thing.
Speaker 4: With all the tackles, everyone talks about length, athletic ability
Speaker 4: and size and those things you can't teach. And so
Speaker 4: he has that in an abundance and.
Speaker 5: That I am a suck, like a sucker for length
Speaker 5: that guys that like to play with their hands so
Speaker 5: they actually can use it.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I said one more time, though,
Speaker 2: We're gonna hear from them three more times. But I
Speaker 2: want to go ahead and address the negative here that
Speaker 2: I've seen discussed on Twitter and from my own film
Speaker 2: Toody as well, because I do think there are some
Speaker 2: things he's gonna have to work on. Like Chris and
Speaker 2: Mike have both told you, he's too often exposed in
Speaker 2: the chest, which allows guys to strike in control and
Speaker 2: drive him back. And that's part of the technique that's
Speaker 2: getting over extended. That's having bad sets and you know,
Speaker 2: not having your hands in the right place, And that's
Speaker 2: a common flaw with guys at that height who can
Speaker 2: get driven back because he plays too high and his
Speaker 2: feet come off the turf. And you cannot not have
Speaker 2: cleats in the ground. All your force and power is
Speaker 2: generated from the ground, and you have to have cletes
Speaker 2: in the ground to go ahead and do that. So
Speaker 2: if you're feeter off the ground, you're gonna lose. Every
Speaker 2: single time. He struggled with leverage a lot on the
Speaker 2: Houston tape. I imagine that's part of what McDaniel and
Speaker 2: Greer were getting at. He got beat across the face
Speaker 2: a little bit too frequently with quick jump sets and
Speaker 2: where he was exposed in the B gap and gave
Speaker 2: that up inside. And I think that's a big part
Speaker 2: of where Tron Armstead comes into play here and can
Speaker 2: be a great teacher for him because both career McDaniel
Speaker 2: mentioned that Armsteads are very eager about helping offensive lineman, saying,
Speaker 2: I want you guys to draft O linman so I
Speaker 2: can work with them, because t Stad's a master at
Speaker 2: explaining and teaching technique of setting and what difference says
Speaker 2: can do for you. The jumps had to go cut
Speaker 2: a guy off at the pass. There was a great
Speaker 2: dummy set that he did on Micah Parsons that got
Speaker 2: him to the ground on one of the game winning
Speaker 2: plays a screen at Tyreek Hill in that Cowboys game.
Speaker 2: I think Patrick Paul ducks into his run blocks a
Speaker 2: little bit too much and can get off balance as
Speaker 2: a result, and also produces hands outside the shoulders, which
Speaker 2: obviously means holding calls and there's not a lot of
Speaker 2: flexibility to kick inside and play on the interior, which
Speaker 2: I kind of wish we have a twenty twenty four
Speaker 2: but you don't get that here with Patrick Paul.
Speaker 1: I don't think right away.
Speaker 2: Maybe he can convert in there, but I don't see
Speaker 2: it at that size and where he needs work with
Speaker 2: his technique and fundamentals. So good stuff there. I think
Speaker 2: it's a good place. Take a break for the first
Speaker 2: portion of the podcast. When we come back, more notes
Speaker 2: on the fit in Miami, the data from his game,
Speaker 2: and more audio from Mike and Chris. That's all next
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Speaker 2: He's a massive tackle. The Dolphins like with the fifty
Speaker 2: fifth pick in the twenty twenty four NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: How does he fit with your Miami Dolphins what they
Speaker 1: want to do.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and start here with some audio from
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 5: You know, it's intriguing to have again the off the
Speaker 5: tape here. You're like, Wow, this is a big guy,
Speaker 5: but you know there's position functionality an athlete that that
Speaker 5: has the foot quickness to cut off a B gap
Speaker 5: or or get to the four technique to the second
Speaker 5: level with urgency, so that projects as some cool displacement,
Speaker 5: you know, as a tool for a blocker. And again
Speaker 5: that's that's why we keep talking about the human being
Speaker 5: tied to the play player because those type of things,
Speaker 5: you know, he has the ability to be really good
Speaker 5: at with a lot of deliberate work and motivation to
Speaker 5: do so those nuances, he's totally fit to to really
Speaker 5: do well in our footwork fundamentally, and we feel very
Speaker 5: confident he's willing to put in the work to master
Speaker 5: the craft.
Speaker 2: I mean Austin tarn key On Smith, Ryan Hayes, these
Speaker 2: guys were all in that same mold right, same with
Speaker 2: Connor and Rob and Isaiah on the inside. It's a
Speaker 2: non negotiable to player. You have to fire off the football.
Speaker 2: It's critical to this offense in the play action game
Speaker 2: and making every snap, run game or pass game look
Speaker 2: the exact same. So Greer and McDaniel said that he
Speaker 2: will start as a tackle, but they never want a
Speaker 2: pigeonhole a player into a spot. And McDaniel jokingly said
Speaker 2: when Greer said, hey, he could he could play center
Speaker 2: if if Mike wants him to and he said, could
Speaker 2: to a see over him. It's a big center. Yeah,
Speaker 2: six seven is probably too big to play center. So
Speaker 2: that's all ingest there. So it sounds like tackle is
Speaker 2: the focus for now, is probably what it should be,
Speaker 2: and that's the only spot he played in college nearly
Speaker 2: three thousand reps, all of those at left tackle. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I understand the hand ringing over the
Speaker 2: idea of going tackle. We went through this with Cam
Speaker 2: Smith and cornerbacks last year, and then by day two
Speaker 2: of camp we were down multiple cornerbacks and realized, oh,
Speaker 2: we need some cornerback help, which you know, Camp didn't
Speaker 2: play last year. But the again, the vision, the idea
Speaker 2: of the thought. You can see the process there behind that.
Speaker 2: We went through it last night with the edge rushers.
Speaker 2: I mean, do we not remember street free agent Brandon
Speaker 2: Shell starting half the season at right tackle in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two. Do we not remember eighty percent of our
Speaker 2: offensive line being down for most of the month of
Speaker 2: December and playing with four backups on the offensive line.
Speaker 2: It's just wild to me how quickly we forget. But
Speaker 2: I digress for now. Premium positions if both Paul and
Speaker 2: chop hit. You get five and four good years because
Speaker 2: the five year fifth year option for a first round
Speaker 2: pick and obviously four years for a second round player
Speaker 2: at two of the four most expensive positions in the
Speaker 2: entire National Football League quarterback and wide receiver also in there,
Speaker 2: And there's clearly a focus here on upside. Frankly, I'm
Speaker 2: a huge fan of drafting impressive athletes with the idea
Speaker 2: that you can develop them down the road into the
Speaker 2: best versions of themselves. We didn't have that steady pipeline
Speaker 2: the last two years, with draft picks being so heavily
Speaker 2: traded away for veteran talent. And I like having Bradley Chubb,
Speaker 2: I like having Tyreek Hill. But to me, this signals
Speaker 2: the idea of sustained winning and trying to keep your
Speaker 2: pipeline fresh for years to come. We already have a
Speaker 2: top ten roster, so I obviously love that you can
Speaker 2: win now and build for the future and have players
Speaker 2: that kind of fit both that mold there. Because Patrick
Speaker 2: Paul's going to play this year, Guys like we had
Speaker 2: so many tackle reps last year that were lost to injury,
Speaker 2: Like he's gonna play.
Speaker 1: He's gonna play at some point.
Speaker 2: Speaking of all that, let's go ahead and go back
Speaker 2: to Chris career when I asked him the process of
Speaker 2: creating a developmental plan for a player you draft. Do
Speaker 2: you have that plan in place before you draft the player?
Speaker 2: Do you put it in when you draft him? Is
Speaker 2: it something you do in the summer during OTAs? How
Speaker 2: do you put together a plan for how to develop
Speaker 2: a player coming out of I.
Speaker 4: Think every player needs development would come in. So I
Speaker 4: think when we say that, it's just, you know, we
Speaker 4: don't think any player comes in ready made, no matter
Speaker 4: who it is, from the first pick to they all
Speaker 4: have something they need to work on. And so I
Speaker 4: think the good thing about Mike and the staff is
Speaker 4: that they're always it's always talked about development. Even with
Speaker 4: our guys that are starters here, it's still talking about
Speaker 4: developmental plans for anyone, whether it's Jalen Phillips or something.
Speaker 4: You know, it's always development and that's the core principle
Speaker 4: of Mike and his staff, and I think that's why
Speaker 4: you saw the jump in a lot of players ability
Speaker 4: and the things they've done on the field over the
Speaker 4: last couple of years.
Speaker 2: Paul was a two time captain of Houston, the guy
Speaker 2: that would do their media days alongside Dania Holgerson in
Speaker 2: the preseason. He was a guy that other players in
Speaker 2: the team would go to for advice and guidance. Per
Speaker 2: Dane Brewers, the beast on the athletic, his draft guy
Speaker 2: that he puts out every year.
Speaker 1: That's a good way to close up the press or portion.
Speaker 2: I think McDaniel talking about the eagerness that Patrick Paul
Speaker 2: has to work and how coachable this young man is.
Speaker 5: He exhibited how you know, how easily it would be
Speaker 5: for him to immerse into what he needs to immerse
Speaker 5: into too, you know, adjust to our scheme and you
Speaker 5: know with it's it's rare when you get a guy
Speaker 5: that's focused on being great at a size and length
Speaker 5: that that he has, with the quick quickness and balance
Speaker 5: and athleticism too, uh to play the position on multiple levels.
Speaker 5: So that very confident that this is a guy, you
Speaker 5: know who The personnel department was way in front of this.
Speaker 5: We met with him at the combine and had him
Speaker 5: in here, so I spent a lot of time with
Speaker 5: him and he uh he shared some exuberance about wanting
Speaker 5: to be a dolphin. So he's he's all the way
Speaker 5: finds up right now.
Speaker 2: The last thing all note here, and I know that
Speaker 2: we got a lot of Houston Cougar tape grinders doing
Speaker 2: all the work out there telling you about this pick,
Speaker 2: but data Holgerson runs a very RPO heavy attack that
Speaker 2: has similar emphasis in terms of firing off the football
Speaker 2: and being quick and utilizing the run action step your
Speaker 2: playpass game and incorporates all different types of running schemes.
Speaker 2: More on that moment, but first, in fact, let's do
Speaker 2: it on the other side and go ahead and take
Speaker 2: our last break great here of the podcast, come back
Speaker 2: and do the data and the metrics and hear from
Speaker 2: Patrick and do a very brief look ahead to Day
Speaker 2: three of the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. That's Next
Speaker 2: Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you
Speaker 2: by Auto Nation. Before we get into the metrics and
Speaker 2: the PFF stats, I think the one thing you must
Speaker 2: must look at when evaluating prospects is the jumps they
Speaker 2: made year over year in college. And for Paul and
Speaker 2: you heard Greer mention, this twenty twenty three was vastly
Speaker 2: better than twenty twenty two, and I think you attribute
Speaker 2: that work to work and improvement technique or a technique improvement.
Speaker 2: I should say, he just he's a grinder and you'll
Speaker 2: meet him here in one second through the zoom call
Speaker 2: we did with him after he was drafted. There's a
Speaker 2: very lightheartedness and very excitable element to his personality. Now
Speaker 2: he'll have to learn how to play this offensive line
Speaker 2: here in Miami. It's a different system and tougher to learn,
Speaker 2: but once you get it down, it really becomes a
Speaker 2: benefit a scheme, an offensive line friendly scheme that McDaniel
Speaker 2: has constructed here in Miami. But he's gonna put the
Speaker 2: work in. This is a guy that's That's all he
Speaker 2: talked about is how coachable he is. And this coaching
Speaker 2: staff has several offensive line gurus on it like where
Speaker 2: that's probably that's a big reason why he wanted to
Speaker 2: come here. Frank Smith is that guy. He did that
Speaker 2: in New Orleans for a long time. Butch Barry is
Speaker 2: definitely that hit good. I love watching him. Coach Mike
Speaker 2: McDaniel is just that as a former run game coordinator.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I just think trust those guys,
Speaker 2: But what the hell do I know? Some PFF data
Speaker 2: here for you guys, a ninety eight point nine pass
Speaker 2: block efficiency was tied for six in college football among
Speaker 2: all tackles. That means one point one percent of his
Speaker 2: pass sets he allowed a pressure.
Speaker 1: It's not bad. I mentioned the very.
Speaker 2: Run game reps that he ran eighty eight reps last
Speaker 2: year on inside zone, eighty nine reps on outside zone,
Speaker 2: and he also had sixty eight reps where he was
Speaker 2: either in power or counter.
Speaker 1: That's man gap scheme.
Speaker 2: This is all different types of schemes and techniques and
Speaker 2: running actions that you can you can dial up at
Speaker 2: the course of a game, and he's pretty well spread
Speaker 2: across all three. So maybe the run game emphasis and
Speaker 2: the run game technique, maybe there's a little more to
Speaker 2: chew on there in terms of just how ready he
Speaker 2: can be, but also the pass protection like ninety eight
Speaker 2: point nine pbe's that's tiron arms set level numbers right there.
Speaker 2: PFF also graded him a perfect one hundred percent in
Speaker 2: past blog grade on true pass sets. Those are non
Speaker 2: play action passe sets, so there's no deceiving the defense,
Speaker 2: straight dropback true passet typically third and long type of plays.
Speaker 1: No pressures allowed on those. You guys understand how crazy it.
Speaker 2: There's no pressure on true passe sets and twenty twenty
Speaker 2: three for Patrick Ball, they also gave him a ninety
Speaker 2: two grade in man gap scheme run blocking, something we
Speaker 2: saw Miami dabble more in in twenty twenty three, and
Speaker 2: in fact, I'm kind of learning this as I go
Speaker 2: on the podcast right now. We saw the Niners and
Speaker 2: the Rams last year dive more into into more man
Speaker 2: running schemes, and that's kind of been the I guess,
Speaker 2: the curveball in this Shanahan mcveag tree of this offense.
Speaker 2: And so maybe there's some thinking there with the Dolphins
Speaker 2: with Patrick Paul as well. He was great at a
Speaker 2: seventy two in zone blocking and this is the one
Speaker 2: right here the tracks with what Chris Greer said, forty
Speaker 2: two grade and negatively great run blocking plays, which just
Speaker 2: means when he loses, he loses pretty badly. And there
Speaker 2: are a good chunk of losses in that tape. But
Speaker 2: again that's the part of the technique and the coaching
Speaker 2: up aspect of all this, that when he gets all
Speaker 2: the technique right and you get him in the building
Speaker 2: and you get him playing Miami Dolphins football, they think
Speaker 2: they can negate that number significantly and get you more
Speaker 2: of that one hundred grade in the true pass blocking
Speaker 2: set or the ninety two grade in the man gap
Speaker 2: scheme blocking some more PFF numbers here. He exceeded eight
Speaker 2: hundred snaps in each of the last three years. Durability
Speaker 2: is great to have that. He allowed one sack this
Speaker 2: year and one sack last year. He allowed one QB
Speaker 2: hit this year and three QB hits last year, So
Speaker 2: that is is my mask's not very good yet. That's
Speaker 2: four five six times the quarterback was hit because of
Speaker 2: Patrick Paul in two seasons average of three per season.
Speaker 2: He allowed just seven hurries this season. That's nine pressures
Speaker 2: this year on four hundred and ninety six pass blocking
Speaker 2: snaps or a ninety eight point nine pass block efficiency.
Speaker 1: Very good in that regard.
Speaker 2: Their Draft Guide notes how they felt his posture improved
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, and I really like how that
Speaker 2: projects for the future of his growth and improvement in
Speaker 2: the National Football League. Just want to go ahead and
Speaker 2: pull up some Brandon Thorn notes for you guys. They
Speaker 2: Bleacher Report, great o line guru who does work with
Speaker 2: Masterminds and toront Arms as well. In Duke Mannyweather excellent
Speaker 2: length with tight clench and strong hands a tie up
Speaker 2: defenders once latched, good athletic ability with the necessary quickness
Speaker 2: and agilitia to get to landmarks and pass protection and
Speaker 2: intersect targets on the move. As a run blocker, cast
Speaker 2: a wide net with his length that helps him impede
Speaker 2: and slow down rushers who get his edges. Good stopping
Speaker 2: power and strain in his anchor to promptly dissipate the
Speaker 2: bull rush brings an edge chippy personality and finish this
Speaker 2: with the echo of the whistle. Love that part. Negatives
Speaker 2: upright playing south with an exposed chest and propensity to
Speaker 2: hold defenders due to late looping hand placement. The results
Speaker 2: in his hands landing high and wide on target. Needs
Speaker 2: to do a better job of maximizing length and keeping
Speaker 2: defenders at his fingertips rather than allow them access and
Speaker 2: to his frame. Kind Of on the same page as
Speaker 2: me here, Brandon Head dips into overextension on angle drive
Speaker 2: and base blocks against post snat movement across his face.
Speaker 2: Bad habit of drifting and oversetting on angled forty five
Speaker 2: degree sets, creating a soft inside shoulder against counter moves
Speaker 2: and can get a little bit lazy at the top
Speaker 2: of the quarterbacks drop, letting his pads rise before falling
Speaker 2: off inside move. So really interesting stuff there. It tracks
Speaker 2: we've heard from Greer, we heard from McDaniel. It's all
Speaker 2: kind of in that same frame of mind.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and close this podcast up with a
Speaker 2: couple of comments here from Patrick Paul himself. First off,
Speaker 2: I loved seeing him on the zoom because the smile
Speaker 2: on the face of this man matched everything both Chris
Speaker 2: and Mike spoke about with him. Here's Patrick Paul real
Speaker 2: quick on why my me was so attractive to him.
Speaker 3: During the whole process, I've talked to them multiple times.
Speaker 3: I remember talking to Chris at the Senior Bowl and
Speaker 3: it was a great conversation that me and him had.
Speaker 3: Just then moving on forward at the Combine, had a
Speaker 3: great interview with both of them, and then to the
Speaker 3: our thirty visit that we had. It was amazing, you know,
Speaker 3: really getting to spend that much time with them. I
Speaker 3: knew that I wanted to be coached by coach McDaniels
Speaker 3: and coach bush Berry, and it was amazing. It was
Speaker 3: something I knew from the minute I started talking to
Speaker 3: him that I wanted to be in Miami Dolphins. So
Speaker 3: this is a blessing.
Speaker 1: Nice sir, and I understand you actually have the same
Speaker 1: agent as Devon h Chan.
Speaker 4: How close are you two and what do you think
Speaker 4: about getting to block for him?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a great player. I watched him throughout
Speaker 3: his college career. We don't have a relationship yet, but
Speaker 3: that's gonna be my dog. I already know, you know.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited to get out there and I'm ready
Speaker 3: to get.
Speaker 2: To work, wanting to be coached by these guys wanting
Speaker 2: to play for the Miami Dolphins. I mean, how can
Speaker 2: you not love hearing that. It's so cool to hear
Speaker 2: a player that had his mindset on where he wanted
Speaker 2: to go. Let's go ahead and play one more here
Speaker 2: on what the Dolphins are getting in Patrick Paul.
Speaker 1: From the man himself, it's.
Speaker 3: Gonna be great. You asked, what do I bring it
Speaker 3: to the Miami Dolphins. I'm gonna bring a resilient player
Speaker 3: who's a great teammate, someone who's handles business in the
Speaker 3: locker room, outside the locker room, outside the facility. Someone
Speaker 3: who's gonna come inside or come every day with the
Speaker 3: same mindset, and that's the work, and that's to compete
Speaker 3: every day, be a great teammate, and I'm gonna bring
Speaker 3: it every day and help to end my career with
Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins. So that's the goal.
Speaker 2: Talked about that last time with Chop Robinson. A great player,
Speaker 2: a great teammate, and locker room presidence. That's something this
Speaker 2: team will never ever, They'll never concede that that idea.
Speaker 2: There's going to be great characters in the locker room
Speaker 2: every single time. It's not tough to see why they
Speaker 2: love this young man. Vibrant personality, the eagerness is evident.
Speaker 2: He also said he was a martial arts enthusiast, which
Speaker 2: tracks with McDaniel saying how much he loves his hand use,
Speaker 2: good stuff all around. I cannot wait to watch this
Speaker 2: young man. And we're not going to do a day
Speaker 2: three options here. I just want to tell you about
Speaker 2: three players I like. Because there's sixty picks ahead of
Speaker 2: where we're gonna pick.
Speaker 1: I just want to go.
Speaker 2: I had mentioned three guys I like for the Dolphins here.
Speaker 2: Mason McCormick, the guard from South Dakota State, has a
Speaker 2: nasty temperament to play inside some good man gap scheme
Speaker 2: and outside zone. There as South Dakota State Louisville running
Speaker 2: back Isaac Garrendo four three to three speed home run hitter.
Speaker 2: If he's there on the board at any point, I
Speaker 2: would take him. Oregon State wide receiver Anthony Gold. Those
Speaker 2: are a few of my guys late in this year's drafts.
Speaker 2: Go ahead and close with this thought here, because look,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm on Twitter more than I want to be.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest about that, because I truly loathed that
Speaker 2: place these days, and especially now with like the you know,
Speaker 2: commercializing it and engagement farming and getting all these picks
Speaker 2: in bio tweets like thanks a lot elon, you ruined
Speaker 2: what was pretty cool man, But also some of the
Speaker 2: comments like terrible pick, window closing. Need players to win now,
Speaker 2: like what, man, wasn't the whole thing last night about
Speaker 2: the offensive line? And are you really out there grinding
Speaker 2: Houston tape? Do you really have a sense of if
Speaker 2: it was a good pick or not? And if you don't,
Speaker 2: why would you just like ask questions about it?
Speaker 1: I just don't. I'll never get that.
Speaker 2: And look, Simon Clancy, I respect his work as much
Speaker 2: as anybody hated the pick. Kyle Krabs didn't love it,
Speaker 2: and I respect their opinions that think the concerns they
Speaker 2: have are very valid, but they've also been wrong before.
Speaker 1: They could be wrong again.
Speaker 2: And I'm never gonna trust someone more than I trust
Speaker 2: McDaniel when it comes to the Dolphins offense. Remember they
Speaker 2: were number one last year. Remember that number one offense
Speaker 2: in the National Football League. I just can't fathom complaining
Speaker 2: about a pick and calling it awful because of the
Speaker 2: perception that you have about how quickly he can play
Speaker 2: or the position he plays, which baffles me. I thought
Speaker 2: we wanted offensive line or that you thought it was
Speaker 2: a reach. Dude, you don't know, Like I just can't
Speaker 2: with a terrible pick, Fire Greer, I can't believe we
Speaker 2: didn't take someone who can contribute right now. You don't
Speaker 2: know if he can or can't. You're projecting entirely with that.
Speaker 2: You don't know that right Like, voice your concerns, but
Speaker 2: just speaking in such finality, why what good does it
Speaker 2: do you? I don't know, man, we do this stuff
Speaker 2: every year, it feels like, and we never learned from it.
Speaker 2: I feel like, collectively, I just think that it's an
Speaker 2: adult thing to voice your concerns and have discourse and
Speaker 2: not just be miserable and crap on everything your team does.
Speaker 2: I saw one person say, Travis, you would have ripped
Speaker 2: the organization of Shreds for this before you got this job,
Speaker 2: and I would just say, no, you've never listened to
Speaker 2: me ever, because I did this job in twenty nineteen
Speaker 2: and I didn't take that approach then. I've always been
Speaker 2: one to tell you what I think might be a
Speaker 2: problem and voice those concerns and be depressed with you guys,
Speaker 2: and we lose big games, it hurts me to my core.
Speaker 2: But I also tend to focus on where it could
Speaker 2: be a hit, what the positives could be. And that's
Speaker 2: what I'll always do because this is this is a
Speaker 2: daily thing that we do here, and I don't think
Speaker 2: that your hobby should make you miserable. If you do that,
Speaker 2: you should find a new hobby. If you want constant
Speaker 2: negativity that's based around uninformed takes, go listen to the
Speaker 2: recently disbanded podcasts and you can find out there and
Speaker 2: that's where you can find those takes. So thin on
Speaker 2: that tomorrow we have four picks. A busy podcast might
Speaker 2: break it up into a couple of shows, so just
Speaker 2: be on the lookout for the Drive Time Podcast a
Speaker 2: couple more times. We are top two hundred on Apple
Speaker 2: this week, so I appreciate all the downloads and listen
Speaker 2: to and engagement. Keep doing that, keep goodness on the charts,
Speaker 2: gets out to more Dolphins fans, helps us get more exposure.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have McDaniel and Greer again at the conclusion
Speaker 2: of day three, so don't want to miss that'll be
Speaker 2: The podcast is going to look just like this, might
Speaker 2: have two of them opposed to one with four players
Speaker 2: opposed to one part nice Maybe two podcasts two players each.
Speaker 1: We'll see.
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