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Speaker 1: What's happening, y'all. Welcome in. It is Tuesday, November twenty second,

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Speaker 1: twenty two T Bob and Aaron Murray hanging out with

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Speaker 1: like we're looking at it right now. I keep bring

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Speaker 1: up the example. I think it's a very good example

429
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Speaker 1: of Kentucky, Like Mark Stop's got Kentucky to the top

430
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Speaker 1: of the mountain and they were the number two teams

431
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Speaker 1: in the East, and people are like, that's still a

432
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Speaker 1: basketball school. Obviously, Ill Miss a different situation, but that's

433
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Speaker 1: a basketball school, and how long can he maintain that

434
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Speaker 1: level of consistency And all of a sudden, now Tennessee's better.

435
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Speaker 1: Florida's a new coaching staff and and they look like

436
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Speaker 1: to be they're recruiting, They got a quarterback that's developing,

437
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Speaker 1: and maybe Florida takes that next step next. Chare South

438
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Speaker 1: Carolinas winning football games? Like now all of a sudden,

439
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Speaker 1: Kentucky's coming down the hill. You look at the SEC

440
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Speaker 1: West Alabama and gonywhere L s U is definitely not

441
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Speaker 1: going anywhere. Their coaching staff A and M is a

442
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: ton of talent. Sam Pittman's building a good, good culture

443
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Speaker 1: there in Arkansas. Uh, you got Texas and Oklahoma coming soon.

444
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Speaker 1: So like at the end of the day, like, how

445
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Speaker 1: how much longer is Old Miss going to consistently state

446
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 1: at that nine wind mark? And see, I don't know,

447
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: a sudden two or three years if they dropped to

448
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 1: six wins or seven wins and then all of a sudden,

449
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Speaker 1: as he viewed as highly as like right now he's

450
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Speaker 1: a hot commodity. Right now he is a top coach

451
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Speaker 1: out there in the open market. Why Miss out on

452
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to go to a place that can win

453
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Speaker 1: a championship, to to maybe say the what if game

454
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Speaker 1: in three or four years, another job may open that

455
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Speaker 1: could be as good or better. I just it's hard

456
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Speaker 1: to predict the future. T Bob, like, why wait when

457
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Speaker 1: you can take something right now where you know? I

458
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Speaker 1: guess yea out, Yeah, I guess in my in my

459
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Speaker 1: in my head. When I'm thinking about Lane staying, he

460
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Speaker 1: I'm in my head. I'm not framing it as he's like, oh,

461
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait for a better job. When I'm thinking

462
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Speaker 1: is maybe he genuinely thinks like, no, I think I

463
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Speaker 1: can do this at Old Miss, and I don't like

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Speaker 1: some of the situation at Auburn right now. And then

465
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Speaker 1: maybe in like two or three years he you know,

466
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Speaker 1: or like for you whatever, like maybe he eventually comes

467
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Speaker 1: to a place where he's like, ah, you know what,

468
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna work. And look, since he

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Speaker 1: has been at Old Miss in three years and we'll

470
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Speaker 1: move on here in a second, but since he has

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Speaker 1: been there, um, he has essentially had a a a

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Speaker 1: blank at just an automatic rubber stamp. Yes for whatever

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Speaker 1: he has wanted right uh more in I l money more,

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Speaker 1: you know, better facilities. He needs this campaign Like whatever

475
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Speaker 1: he has needed, Oxford has given him rubber stamp. And

476
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Speaker 1: now they're trying to give him a big contract to

477
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Speaker 1: keep him. So they're doing everything so like, yeah, I

478
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Speaker 1: could where he's happy. He thinks this is sustainable because well,

479
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: hell look where he started first where he is now? Right,

480
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: Like in theory, winning only helps you gain a momentum

481
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Speaker 1: and established that consistency that you want. And also like

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Speaker 1: I think Lank Gibbons probably a better coach than Mark

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Speaker 1: Poops is We've we've we've talked about that, uh at

484
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Speaker 1: length and and and what do you think about this here?

485
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Speaker 1: Does a twelve team playoff change the math at all?

486
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Speaker 1: Because all of a sudden, that that that postseason that

487
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Speaker 1: is everybody's goal, that is the key to winning championships,

488
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Speaker 1: That postseason is more open than it was before. Yeah,

489
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Speaker 1: I think that's for a lot of coaches. It opens

490
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Speaker 1: things up a lot more. But it still goes back

491
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Speaker 1: to my thought of why Auburn is a better job

492
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Speaker 1: than all of a sudden, you can go to Auburn

493
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Speaker 1: not necessarily feel like you have to beat Nick Saban

494
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Speaker 1: Alabama in the first few years as kind of Nicks

495
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Speaker 1: on his way out and still get all burned in

496
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Speaker 1: a position to make the twelve team playoff. Like, let's

497
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Speaker 1: just play this scenario. Link Giffin takes the job he

498
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Speaker 1: brings is over Jukins. I guarantee, if Lane takes a

499
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Speaker 1: job at Auburn, there is no doubt in my mind

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Speaker 1: that Jenkins, who is from the state of Alabama, would

501
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Speaker 1: not use his one free pass to go follow his

502
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Speaker 1: head coach who just helped him produce an incredible season.

503
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Speaker 1: So you get the best running back in the SEC. Boom,

504
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Speaker 1: you got him locked up. Boom, you go get fifteen

505
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Speaker 1: other top recruits. Lane can turn this into an Auburn

506
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Speaker 1: football team into a nine win team plus in two seasons,

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Speaker 1: just when we're expanding to that twelve team playoff. So

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Speaker 1: could he do it at all? Miss, Yeah, he could

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Speaker 1: do it at all. Miss. I think it's more likely

510
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Speaker 1: and more consistent of him doing in that at Auburn

511
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Speaker 1: and get that team to the playoffs without having to

512
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Speaker 1: hear everyone bitching and moaning about oh, you didn't beat

513
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Speaker 1: Alabama you need but well, who cares. I got you

514
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Speaker 1: to the playoffs and guess what, Saban only has a

515
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Speaker 1: couple more years left. Let's suck it off. Yeah, I

516
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Speaker 1: think if you have to beat Alabama, you have to

517
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Speaker 1: be I don't think it's in the first two years.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he has to in the first two

519
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Speaker 1: years for three, in the in year three or four,

520
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Speaker 1: he has to pull one off. I mean, that is

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. Would say them back when you get

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Speaker 1: them back at Auburn year three. So let's say to

523
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Speaker 1: next year, it's at Alburn, because we know it's it's

524
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Speaker 1: it's a game that is mostly if you're gonna win

525
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: at Auburn, you're gonna win it at home. Year ones

526
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Speaker 1: at Auburn, chance of them doing it slim, But maybe,

527
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Speaker 1: like what's it like? Like what is Alabama gonna be

528
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Speaker 1: next year? Who is going to be their quarterback? I

529
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Speaker 1: look at the transfer market right now, the portal. I

530
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Speaker 1: don't see a lot of quarterbacks out there that to me,

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Speaker 1: take Alabama to the next level. So they're gonna have

532
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Speaker 1: to get someone in house, and I don't think they

533
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Speaker 1: had that guy in house. So what is Alabama gonna

534
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Speaker 1: be next year? Maybe you do get them next year

535
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Speaker 1: if you can, you know, you could do your thing

536
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Speaker 1: in the transfer portal. But I do agree, like year three,

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Speaker 1: when you get them back at home, I think you've

538
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Speaker 1: got to make that game extremely competitive and I do

539
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: think you need to be able to push them to

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Speaker 1: possibly win that football game. Uh Joey Jose and the

541
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Speaker 1: Chet says Lane only looks out for himself. I think, Look,

542
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: that's where I think it's all interesting. I think that

543
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: has always been the opinion of Lane, and to his detriment.

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Speaker 1: And then I feel like he had to go to

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Speaker 1: the Alabama coaching halfway house and kind of rebuild his reputation.

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Speaker 1: And I wonder if he were to make this move

547
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Speaker 1: and then it does not go well at Auburn, does

548
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: he kind of spike himself forever? I don't know. Um M,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I have okay, okay, I am. I

550
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: am basing this on nothing. I think he's staying. I'm

551
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: not based on any information. That's a pure gut feeling.

552
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: And you think he's gone, and you think he's gone

553
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: to Auburn. I mean, you've kind of beat me down

554
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: with this. I started at no Way and then you

555
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: kind of brought me around. But he's taking it. Then,

556
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: who's taking it. Then it doesn't seem like I think

557
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: it seems like give me your damn opinion. Who Who's who?

558
00:28:54,360 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: They going? Is it freeze? Like? Who's left? Uh? Matt

559
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: Rule just reportedly, Brom if you can I see a

560
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: couple of articles here, but I don't know, um Brom

561
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: if you want to see if you can find concrete

562
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: is for some light breaking news. But it's it's being

563
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: rumored right now that Matt Rule turned down Nebraska. Have

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00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: you seen this? I'm looking now, Okay, okay, look look

565
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: and let me know what you get. All right, shut up?

566
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: Aaron Murray, idiot. Lincoln is good and so Dennis Dodd,

567
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: the CBS reporter, seems to have intimated that Matt Rule

568
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: turned down Nebraska because he needs because what Matt Rule

569
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: needs to do is what his favorite thing to do

570
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: is is go on television and make excuses for why

571
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: he sucked in the press. Where is this Matt Rule

572
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: venom coming from? Bro? I'm like he texted us a

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00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: clip earlier of Matt Rule being like, you know, I

574
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Speaker 1: think one thing I screwed up is I wish you

575
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: would have like been closer to my players. And he's

576
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: talking about I could playm COVID, but really it's on

577
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: me or something that in year three I was really

578
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: getting close to him. What what has Matt Rule done

579
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: to you? Brom? Where did he touch you? So I

580
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: have this thing where I like my guys who are

581
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: going to come up and pay a hundred million dollars

582
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Speaker 1: to speak publicly in front of people, to not say

583
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: stupid things on camera. It's like, why, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's I don't know if if I took it as

585
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Speaker 1: wildly stupid as I Yeah, I think it was just

586
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: a little honest from a coach and tried to make

587
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: the jump to the NF blamed not being able to

588
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: connect with the players. No, he said he because he did.

589
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: We got an effort out of him. Dude. Let's god.

590
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Speaker 1: I thought it was somewhat blaming COVID for like Man,

591
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: I didn't really get I didn't get to build the

592
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Speaker 1: chemistry with my team. It's hard to build that in

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Speaker 1: that trust factor essentially, because you know what you know

594
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Speaker 1: what you can't do a Brom, you know what you

595
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: can't do during COVID ropes courses. How the hell are

596
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: you supposed to build team chemistry if you can't go

597
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: to a Ropes course. Trustful. If you can't exactly like,

598
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: if I can't climb over you and reach the top

599
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: of the wall and then reach down and pick you up,

600
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: we're never gonna play good football together. Okay, it's not

601
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: Matt rules fault. It was it was the viruses fault.

602
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: Uh And here brom goes with this Matt rule seems

603
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: like a guy who uses the term wuhan flew iron

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Speaker 1: You really think so? I know? I think now you

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00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: are ascribing some things to Matt rule that I don't

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Speaker 1: that I don't feel be being. What is it? Ropes course?

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00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: Oh bro? If you've ever gone to a workplace team

608
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: bonding ropes course, it is the ideal way to form

609
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: some new relationships. You have to work together to accomplish goals.

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Speaker 1: It breaks down social like anxieties and break in the

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Speaker 1: ice because you're able to clearly bond over this new

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Speaker 1: activity you're doing together. There is nothing better than a

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Speaker 1: great Ropes course for building team chemistry. Any team, sales team, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, work team. In fact, snaps should do a

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00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: Ropes course and film it for contests. Um, that is

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Speaker 1: that that we will never reach the numbers that we

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Speaker 1: want to until we do a ropes course. Just trust

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Speaker 1: me on that, okay. Um, actually a barge might be right.

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Speaker 1: He said I voted Rules a fool because he made

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Speaker 1: Joe Brady o C in the NFL down n o

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Speaker 1: C experience. Uh to Daniel Daniel basham ass would T

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Speaker 1: catch you to trustfaul Aaron? I do I do think

623
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Speaker 1: T would? I would attempt to catch T Bob. But

624
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Speaker 1: T Bob is he's a big man. It's like you

625
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: always say, or you just be a little pitch catch me,

626
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: put your body on the line, your body on the line.

627
00:32:53,840 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: But remember like six four. Yeah, I was very shocked

628
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: when I met Brom there and bounteries like, oh damn, Brom,

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Speaker 1: I see you. I see a big guy. No, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know. It was. It was very intimidating. Uh, it's

631
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Speaker 1: probably how he's gotten so far in life. Uh, he's

632
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: just he's just tall, and people assume that he's um

633
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Speaker 1: competent because of it. See, poor Matt Rule is out

634
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: here having to make it as like a five nine Brodie,

635
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Speaker 1: I actually don't know how tall Matt Rule is. Um,

636
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: let's look it up. Seven. Let's just put it that way.

637
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: Oh wow, are you being highest now from unbelievable. We

638
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Speaker 1: can't wait for like three years for for Nebraska, Nebraska

639
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: to be like the top team in their conference in

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Speaker 1: that role leading some team to national championship, ripping up

641
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: how Matt rules five six exactly, Dude, he's having really

642
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: make it in this life. Okay, okay, Okay, we're losing

643
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: the thread here. Nebraska is a great job. I'm glad

644
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: that we all agree it's probably the best available job.

645
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we agreed and ended this conversation on that. Now,

646
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: let's talk about the biggest game of the weekend. You

647
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: already know, man, a little big tin football in there,

648
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: and I cannot help it. As we sit here and

649
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: it's finally some cold weather in Louisiana. Uh, it feels

650
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: very holiday like right now already. I've got a bit

651
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: of Thanksgiving senioritis kicking in. Uh. There is nothing that

652
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: feels more like a Norman Rockwell painting. Then undefeated Ohio

653
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 1: State against undefeated Michigan, both teams in the top five,

654
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: freezing cold weather on outdoor battle, a Michigan team that

655
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: wants to run the ball with elite old line play.

656
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: It is a thing of beauty. It is Christmas, it

657
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: is Thanksgiving, it is football at its core, It is

658
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties. It is a a mythological version of

659
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: America that never quite existed. And I cannot wait to

660
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: watch these two two teams do battle this weekend. The

661
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: question is what's the deal with Blake corm because it

662
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: does feel like a lot of this may come down

663
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: to that and Michigan offensive tackle Ryan Hayes. Aaron may

664
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: have slipped up in the media bit this week unless

665
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: he's playing a little next level game. He told a

666
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: reporter quote on Blake or Um quote, he's a great player,

667
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: but everybody else is gonna have to step up with

668
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: him out. I don't know that or not, but he did.

669
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: He did say that Aaron can Michigan win if Blake

670
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: Korum doesn't play. No, I don't think Michigan wins regardless

671
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: of Blake corn was healthy or not healthy. To be honest,

672
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: I think this is and I know you say freezing

673
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: cold weather. I think the highest like fifty degrees, so

674
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: it actually should be at day. Yeah, it's not gonna

675
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: be snowing like it was last year in the game.

676
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: So Ohio State fans are jumping up and down right now,

677
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: it does look like it's gonna be a little bit

678
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: of rain on Friday that may leak a little bit

679
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: into Saturday. Uh. And it is a leven named kickoff,

680
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: so it maybe a little bit wet. So that's that's

681
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: the issue right now. Like for Ohio State fans, it's

682
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: you know, praying, hoping and praying and wishing that the

683
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: weather does stay away because if it does, like like

684
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: we just talked about the reason why I put a

685
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: somewhat significant bet on Old Miss for Thursday night, Old

686
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: Miss can run the football. Uh, Missippi State, that's not

687
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: what they want to do. So if it's raining, obviously,

688
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: picked the team that's more physical, Pick the team that

689
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: can run the football. And the same thing can be

690
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: said for this game. The reason why Michigan dominated last

691
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: year it was cold. They are more physical upfront, their

692
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: style play. It was at home in the Big House.

693
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: They dominate, that dominated, They end up obviously going on

694
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: to win the Big Ten, going to the playoffs. That's

695
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: that these are two very very different football teams. Ohio

696
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: State wants to be more finesse. Michigan wants to be

697
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: more physical, and as they should, the offensive line is tremendous.

698
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: They they are going to be one of the best,

699
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: if not the best offensive lines this entire season, and

700
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: they've they've shown it week in week out. But if

701
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: you don't have for him and and something I've hit

702
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: on a ba jillion times a season, and you rely

703
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: on J. J. McCarthy to win you the football game,

704
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: it is not going to happen. Verse this year's Ohio

705
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: State defense, who has been more physical upfront, that's been

706
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: better overall, that has shown a little bit of weaknesses

707
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: against the past vertically down the field. But that's not

708
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: what Michigan can do. JJ is a guy that throws

709
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: a drag route, he throws a quick out, he throws

710
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: the tailback screen. That is his comfort zone. You're not

711
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: all of a sudden in the twelfth game of the

712
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: season gonna say, Okay, j J, guess what. You haven't

713
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: done it all year, But let's start throwing some daggers

714
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: and posts and goes and corners and put you into

715
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: that situation like you are who you are at this

716
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: point the season in Michigan is not that type of

717
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: football team. So yes, I am worried about Michigan and

718
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: what they can do um and and their defense has

719
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: been great, but once again, who they face? Man, who

720
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: is who is Michigan really face? That is to the

721
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: caliber of Ohio State offense and and C J. C J.

722
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: Stroud and company, no one would be Taliah Tongue Valoa

723
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: maybe just in terms of best quarterback that they faced.

724
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: And look, uh that that's another by the way, Rick Sanchez,

725
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: before I forget in the chats, as Ryan haynes O

726
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: tagle Ryan Hayes that his quote was an answer to

727
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: a question of what if Blake is out? So for

728
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: whatever uh that is worth, he was responding to that. Um.

729
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: But both these teams are coming out of battles like

730
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: like Talia and Maryland actually gave Ohio State a bit

731
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: of a fight last week, and then obviously Illinois gave

732
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: everything that Michigan wanted and then some of course played

733
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: Korham not there in the second half. I guess, yeah,

734
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: the the the the question is, I know that Ohio

735
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: States defense is improved this year, Ann Murray. But in

736
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: the same breath as we asked who is Michigan played,

737
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 1: we can kind of say who as Ohio State played,

738
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: and we can point to a note name game in

739
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: which the defense was dominant, but the Notre Dame offense

740
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: was not the Notre Dame offense that USC is gonna

741
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: see Saturday. Like, there is a direct correlation between Notre

742
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: Dame being like, Okay, no, we're just gonna start pounding

743
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: it and the recent run they have been on they

744
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: were still trying to run Tommy Reeves Tyler Buckner like

745
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: more of a spread attack, where they finally realized they

746
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 1: just need to go a bit more old school rely

747
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: on their offensive line. And so my question is, yes,

748
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: the stats are better for Ohio State this year. They're

749
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: up to number nine in total defensive the country from

750
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: fifty nine last year. Um their pressure rank when it

751
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: comes to passing, which shouldn't matter too much of this game,

752
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: is up to number two from number thirty eight last year.

753
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: But last year this Michigan Old line, which one the

754
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: Joe Moore Award and which is again fan freaking tastic.

755
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: This year they put they dominated House States Vince line

756
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: they ran for seven point two yards to carry. They

757
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: ran for two this year. That Wolverine O line. They

758
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: run in side zone or some variation of inside zone

759
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: air and forty of the time so so they're not

760
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: really hiding what they want to do. And the only

761
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: reason that works is because as a group. It's kind

762
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: of funny. The Ohio State offensive line actually has more

763
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: kind of NFL talent on it, but michigan zoe line

764
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: is the ultimate. The whole is greater than the sum

765
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: of its parts. And if you think about an no

766
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: line like a fist, right, I don't care how big

767
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: all your fingers are, if you can't coordinate them into

768
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: you know where everybody's on the same page, where you're

769
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to get anything done. I wonder,

770
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: for all the improvement, can Ohio States d line and

771
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: defense hold up this year and avoid land in Michigan

772
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: control the game, because that's gonna be the way to

773
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: make up for Marvin Harrison Jr. And c J. Stroud

774
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: and all these incredible skilled players that they have. I

775
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: would believe at least would be that Michigan offense basically

776
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: dictating the pace of the game. Yeah, can you dictate

777
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: the pace of the game? Can you put c J?

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00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: Shrouded them into third and long situations? Make them one dimensional?

779
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: You know what does the Ohiouse sate struggle with this season?

780
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 1: At times it's themselves being physical and running the football.

781
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: Can you win first and second down? I think for

782
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: Michigan on both sides of the football, that's gonna be

783
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: the key. Can you get to third ad manageable? Because

784
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: you don't want J. J. McCarthy getting into situations where

785
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: he has to take four, you know, five steps, seven

786
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: step drops rounder center and then throwing more sophisticated route

787
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: concepts down the field. Can you get to third and

788
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: manageable where you can still run the football. Possibly he

789
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 1: can use his legs to get the first down, or

790
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: you're in the sandbox of what he likes to do.

791
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: Throw the quick game, get the ball off his hands

792
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,479
Speaker 1: nice and easy, and then get first downs that way,

793
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: so for them win first and second down. The same

794
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: thing on defense? Can you win first and second down?

795
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: Can you essentially eliminate and make Ohio State one dimensional?

796
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: Which we've seen from this offense at times this year?

797
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: There there have been multiple times with this offensive on

798
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: top and physical, they've been made one dimensional. And I

799
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: think if Michigan can do that with their talented defensive line,

800
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you put C. J. Stroud

801
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: into that situation where he's having to take five and

802
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: seven step drops from the gun, and then you know,

803
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: you allow your defensive line to essentially go out there

804
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: and feast and see if you can get a couple

805
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: of sacks. So that's the name of the game. That's

806
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: it plans. So it is an easy, easy game plan

807
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: for Michigan. Michigan, excuse me. Win the early downs on

808
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: both sides. You will have a chance. If you lose

809
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: early downs, you will get in alive on both sides

810
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: of the football. Because you do not want to put

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00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: Ohio Satan in a situation where they're having success running

812
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: the football, because then you have to put a safety

813
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: in the box. And Marvin Harrison Jr. And for goodness sakes,

814
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: can we please please see Jackson Smith and jig by

815
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: this game. Maybe they've just been holding him out. I

816
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: don't know what the hell is going on here. We

817
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:54,520
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818
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,640
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819
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,799
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820
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,759
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821
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855
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Speaker 1: moment more with vanduel give me the fifth of Michigan

856
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: getting ready to jam it up the Buckeye brown Hole

857
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: once again, second year in a row. Uh dee we

858
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: says uh Iowa is seriously back to back bit ten

859
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: West champs. Let that sink in. Well, it could be

860
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: they control their own destiny. But this actually brings up

861
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 1: an interesting point that I read uh in the Columbus Dispatch,

862
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: which is a great take, and Brom, I'd love to

863
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: get your opinion on this as well. Um, they basically

864
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 1: kind of call up the point that enjoy this game

865
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: because in the future, this game could feel less than

866
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: it does this weekend. And and and look, it will

867
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: not work out this way most years, but let's look

868
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: forward into the big tent future where they are getting

869
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: rid of divisions. If this was the setting a couple

870
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: of years from now, Aaron, you would have these two

871
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: teams playing this week, and then you would have these

872
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: two teams immediately turning around and playing again next week.

873
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: And then with the twelve team playoff, they could even

874
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: potentially meet in the playoff for a third time, and

875
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: that would definitely take away some of the all or

876
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: nothing electricity that we are feeling in this game. And

877
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: then so I started to think about this, and I'm like,

878
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: wait a second, Yes, division lists is the best way

879
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: to try to herman, from a fair standpoint, who the

880
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: best team in your conference is. But is it the

881
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: most fun? Like is it the best for football? Like?

882
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: What you can do? What you do? You know, what

883
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: you can do? You know you could do t Bob,

884
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: But I think this is an interesting topic, especially for

885
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, is do you move this game out

886
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: of the slot that it's in right now if you're

887
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: anticipate and they said they want to keep it, they

888
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: said they want to keep it. I think I think

889
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: to me, that's the that's the way to answer that.

890
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: I think you move the game up to a spot

891
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: where it's not Okay, we both know we're gonna be

892
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: playing next week. That's the more important game. We can

893
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: kind of coach, who really gives a damn who wins

894
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: this football game? You put it in say week seven,

895
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: and you all of a sudden, doesn't it makes a

896
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: little bit more portant. That to me, that's the only

897
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: way to make it happen. And then let's not forget you.

898
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: You're adding you are adding USC And obviously we'll see

899
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: what the hell goes on with U C l A,

900
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: possibly Oregon in Washington. More competition and that conference may

901
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: make that game a little bit more portant on the

902
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: line too, So we'll see if that facts. But I

903
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: think the one thing that easily makes it saves yourself

904
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: if you do go to the division lists is just

905
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: moving the game to a different date. It is interesting though,

906
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: like the NFL is not division lists, right, and it

907
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: works perfectly because you have garbage divisions where teams get

908
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: to hold on hope that maybe they can do something

909
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: because we're like like Iowa fans are way more locked

910
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: in right now this weekend than they should have any

911
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: right to be. And again, it works in other sports

912
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: where you play a million games. But I can't help

913
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: but wonder in football is it more fun to have divisions?

914
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: Brom I'm sorry here, you're trying to click in and

915
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: we keep talking. What do you think? I think if

916
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: the TV networks could have Ohio State Michigan play every week,

917
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: they would Who wants to watch Michigan? Who wants to

918
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: watch Michigan or Ohio State play Iowa next weekend? Not fair?

919
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: People would rather yes, obviously, It's like it is not

920
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: as fun as the idea of winner take all for

921
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: the one, but no one is excited about watching Ohio

922
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: State play Iowa next week and there's a zero percent chance,

923
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: Like the idea that they would play each other, play

924
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: each other and then the playoffs would see them together

925
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: is like so not seated together. No no, no no, no,

926
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: I mean like just the potential of they could like,

927
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 1: you know, let's say they were both just really good

928
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: that year and and and whatever. That'd probably be tight

929
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: if they met for a third And my answer is

930
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: that would be That's like basically my answer when it

931
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: comes to the playoffs, Like you're like, what would happen

932
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 1: if this game doesn't matter and then there's another awesome

933
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: football game. I was like, well, that would be tight

934
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: because I like big time football. That's fair. Murray Mania says,

935
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: who's this Baggins guy? Some basement dwelling geekilling and Leeds

936
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: go to cosplay convengence. Hey, Bilbo T. Baggins is a

937
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: former Division one l s U track athlete. Okay, show

938
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: some freaking respect, murray Mania, eric, get your pull in line. Okay,

939
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: get your ass and chat, get your people line. You're

940
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: just going you're barking at adults sniffing each other's buttholes. Well,

941
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: this is like this is like your this is like

942
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: your your your your random doppelganger on Twitter who loves

943
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: to at me with the most random ship ever? Is

944
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: this person he bought? Is this the AI program that

945
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: he bought? Yeah? I don't know who made that. My

946
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: wife was freaked out by and I was like, I

947
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: don't know, babe, it's the Internet. I mean, I don't know.

948
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to tell you that. Look, let's be clear, though,

949
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: Let's be clear. We will be the one sniffing the

950
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 1: butts come atlant A weekend, okay, and you will sniff

951
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 1: our butts only if we allow you to. How about that,

952
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Murray, becausel she's about to whoop that ass. After

953
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: we take care of A and M this weekend, just

954
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: focus on the first What do you think the video

955
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 1: gaming the way to year? Yeah? So okay, so I'm sorry.

956
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: I know that we've you know, we've we've gone long.

957
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,959
Speaker 1: Imagine that. Um, so we'll probably have to push back

958
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: USC Notre Dame uh to Friday maybe. But it was

959
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: announced today. If you love you a sports and c

960
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: double a football, like I think probably most of us do,

961
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: if you're here in this chat, um, it was expected

962
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: to be out by summer twenty twenty three. Now I

963
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: say expected in quotes because there's everything official. They're right.

964
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: In fact, Daryl Holt, the e A Sports vice president

965
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: general manager, says that was conjecture. It has now been

966
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: announced that they are aiming for summer twenty twenty four.

967
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: It's expected to include all hundred and thirty four FPS teams,

968
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: and Holt says, look, the game is not delayed. The

969
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: thing is, we're building it from the ground up. We

970
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: don't want it to be a clone of Madden or

971
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: old n C double a code. Take that for whatever

972
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: it's worth. I mean, I have to imagine it shares

973
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: a lot of code with Madden UM, but they don't

974
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: want it to feel like a re skin. For a

975
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: couple of years now, teams have been sending them audio,

976
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, stadium in for ration, all of this stuff

977
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: to try to make that game day experience. He talks

978
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: about how they are really trying to nail Dynasty Mode.

979
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: That's like their core core focus, and it makes sense

980
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: right with n I L you would now have to

981
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: count for that. In Dynasty Mode. You need to be

982
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: able to raise money. You need to be able to

983
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: pay players like that's gonna be fascinating transfer portal. You

984
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: have to recruit high schoolers, you have to create your team,

985
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: you have to create other teams. That's a lot to

986
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: try to program. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if they

987
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: wanted to code in the ability for you to have

988
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 1: your school like switch conferences and stuff right like, so

989
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: as college football changes drastically, I do take all this

990
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: and face value that there's a lot to do. But

991
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: as Ryan Brumley maintains, how do you pay the players? Um,

992
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: they say that you know they they they and and

993
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: seeking to get the n L rights of players. They

994
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: can be done group licensing or individual licensing, but that

995
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: doesn't really answer anything has to be put. It's a project.

996
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: They're just trying to get an individual contract from every

997
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: player to be able to use them, I mean, be

998
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: an absolute Well, it's like do some of the biggest

999
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: players hold out? Like remember Michael Jordan was never in

1000
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: our video games growing up. Barry Bonds wasn't in a

1001
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: lot of the baseball games growing up because he was like,

1002
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: neph you, I'm not agreed to this, Like you gotta

1003
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: pay me more than you pay Tony ku coach if

1004
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: you want me to be in a video game with

1005
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: Tony Coo coach. Sorry tone, um So, I do you

1006
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: have any idea because Brom, you feel like this game,

1007
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: give the take, give the people your take. I just

1008
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: want to take where I'd hate to be, where I'd

1009
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: love to be. Wrong but I just I don't see it.

1010
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't see a world where a game is collectively

1011
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: like collectively licensed with a hundred and thirty four schools

1012
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: and um, so do the math hundred thirty four schools

1013
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: times let's say a hundred players. That just say a

1014
00:52:52,160 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: hundred players? Yeah, yeah's so that's around okay, So that's

1015
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: ten thousand players vide third schools eight players. I'll believe

1016
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: what I see him A lot of players payers and

1017
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: say how much you play? Say you pay? There's no

1018
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: just in cool fifty two million dollars. That's problem. So

1019
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: like NFL, we would always get a nice little ten

1020
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: tho dollar check from Madden. But that's thirty two teams

1021
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: and fifty three roster. That's about what sixteen million dollars.

1022
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: I am a genius. I just really did that in

1023
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: my head right now, So go check me for the show.

1024
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: So it's about sixteen million dollars, which is significantly less

1025
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: than paying half that money to that amount of players,

1026
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: which ends up being fifty two million dollars. So what

1027
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: do you pay the kids? A thousand bucks each? I agree? Like,

1028
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: if I'm c J. Stroud, you ain't given me only

1029
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars to be, you know, one of the

1030
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: main guys on your video game. It's going to be

1031
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: a struggle to pay the big boys what they deserve

1032
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: to be on Madden or or n c A or

1033
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: do they just say screw it, man, I get to

1034
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: be on a video game. Just give me anything. I'm

1035
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: happy to be on there, like I'm getting Like if

1036
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: you're CJ straight, like you're you're getting enough money. I

1037
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: would just say, I get to be on a video game.

1038
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: I want to say back, I grew up playing it.

1039
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: It's cool that I get to beyond it. So I'll

1040
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: take whatever you give me. Let's just what I need

1041
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: to sign. We after we go. But I'm gonna say

1042
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: I'll believe it when I see it. I don't know

1043
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: about you, Aaron, but I did believe. I mean, for me,

1044
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: being on a video game was one of the coolest

1045
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: moments in my life. I love video games. I've always

1046
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: on video games. I grew up playing them constantly. Nothing

1047
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: made me happier. They would rain outside to my mom

1048
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: couldn't force me outside, like it's my favorite. It was

1049
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: so cool seeing myself represented digitally. So I wonder, I

1050
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: wonder I don't know, but these damn kids nowadays, and

1051
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: they're goddamn in I hell deals all that care about

1052
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: money here, Murray, what the hell, man, damn fabrics. It's

1053
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: with N I L. It's this is it's hilarious. These

1054
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: kids act like they can't get through a semester without

1055
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: getting paid. Like I like, I have my n L

1056
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: a company, we paid kids. We've paid kids over at

1057
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: N I L. And how you're actually bitching about N

1058
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: I L is that I'm not bitchy about it. I

1059
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: think it's I'm not bitchy about an L. I'm just saying,

1060
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: because you're comparing two different eras of football players, that

1061
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: these players literally feel like they can't get through a

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Speaker 1: Like I need some money for this, this and this

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Speaker 1: and this. Oh my dude, I played four years at

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Speaker 1: University of Georgia without getting paid, Jack Squad, I survived.

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Speaker 1: There have been millions of college players ahead of you

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Speaker 1: that have made it through three or four years without

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Speaker 1: But they literally get asked, we'll get a law office

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Speaker 1: job where you don't show up okay and collect a check, like,

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Speaker 1: come on, do it the right way. I actually had

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Speaker 1: was so pissed. It's like copying to office job you

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Speaker 1: talk about like in in college. Yeah, and I thought

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Speaker 1: I did. I had a job before spring break much

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Speaker 1: I didn't just get paid like I actually went there

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Speaker 1: Hilton Burger King commercial deal. It's like, yeah, you wanna

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Speaker 1: come get a little rub down from I worked for Tips.

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Speaker 1: I work for Tips, baby, work for them tips about it?

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Speaker 1: All right, Well we have to go. I can feel

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Speaker 1: Brom yelling at me for continuing to talk um again.

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Speaker 1: Y'all huge, thank if you're hanging out with us here

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Speaker 1: Aaron Murray, and we love you all. We are gonna

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Speaker 1: be back on Friday, so a little bit of Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: break for the boys. Aaron, best of luck. I hope

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Speaker 1: you know, fingers crossed. God blessed me with mom and

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Speaker 1: And yeah, we'll be back on Friday and then Saturday,

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Speaker 1: so you'll have a great day. More snaps coming up

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