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Speaker 1: Joe Diffy, so sad. I'm really glad he was on

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Speaker 1: positive coronavirus. His tests came out, just made a bunch

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Speaker 1: Here's to all the souls who have ever died in bed,

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Speaker 1: near the cow the Cowboys. So college jam Oklahoma, Oh yeah,

428
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: big center fans. Yeah, So did you watch the Hisman ceremony.

429
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 1: I did not. I was working. Jalen got third, got third? Um,

430
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 1: great season, and but oh use in it. They're playing ls.

431
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 1: It's four verses. One. That's gonna be a tough game. Brother,

432
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: that's gonna be everyone. It's gonna be a real tough

433
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 1: Gamel's loaded. Well, so you're a good football player, your pompershner,

434
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: huh yesh. Yeah, I returned a few points. And I'll

435
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 1: tell you what I did not like with standing there

436
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: vulnerable as that ball is coming down and you can

437
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,679
Speaker 1: just feel without even seeing you can you know, if

438
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 1: you're in a room Joe and you know somebody's looking

439
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 1: at you, and you don't have to look up to

440
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 1: feel someone's eyes on you exactly, but you're imagining that

441
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,360
Speaker 1: with nine or ten guys coming at you hard, same

442
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 1: kind of feeling, and you're like trying to judge do

443
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: and do I by waves. Once it looks like earte

444
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,719
Speaker 1: you that, Yeah, because you have to have tremendous focus, right.

445
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 1: And once I didn't fair catch and I thought I

446
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: wanna I'm gonna just take off with this ball. I

447
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 1: thought I had some space and the ball is coming

448
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: down and I get a little little alligator arm and

449
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 1: it hits my hand and I bobbled it. It's on

450
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: the ground. And it was the only time that I

451
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 1: really lunged for a fumble in my because I mostly

452
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: played wide receiver um and I didn't return a lot

453
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: of punt, especially after this the story here. But I

454
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: botched the ball and I was like, I gotta go

455
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: dive for it, and and diving for the fumble was

456
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: I think the most physical part of because it was

457
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 1: just everybody's piling on diving and I was on the

458
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: bottom and I was like, I'm done. Do you ever

459
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: hear those guys scream on the bottom, you know, because

460
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: they're down there and then something's happening to him. Then oh,

461
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: hear that terrified people grabbing in twists, And it's the

462
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 1: whole thing. So you play football, play basketball, basketball, baseball, baseball, track, golf,

463
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 1: five sport guy, Huh if you think I'm playing college

464
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: at all? Uh? I thought about. But I never did

465
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: get any scharlar scholarship offers for football. I actually had

466
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: some small college offered me a side on the same

467
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: basketball scholarship, oddly enough, and I wasn't that great. I mean,

468
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: I was okay, but you know, but uh, but no.

469
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: I have a cousin that played at Oklahoma State and

470
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: he was younger than I, and so he I asked

471
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: him and said, do you think I could could have

472
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: played that? He goes, I absolutely really not so. But

473
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: I never get any scholarship offers. I had a coach.

474
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 1: Couple of coaches and small colleges asked me to walk

475
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: on and if it worked out, they'd give me a scholarship.

476
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: I never So you're in Nashville, and so you're driving Jimmy, right,

477
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,719
Speaker 1: Johnny Neil, Johnny excuse me, there's John and Johnny. You're

478
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: driving Johnny Neil and so you go pick him up

479
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: the first time. And then how does that relationship turn

480
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 1: into something? Because you guys started well, I had to

481
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: him a couple of times that I'd love to write

482
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: with it. You know. Of course, I'm just a newbie,

483
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't really know much about it, and

484
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: he kind of gave me the old brush off. You

485
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: know maybe one day, well maybe maybe, you know, but

486
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 1: we just hit it off. We had a moment a

487
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: few minutes that I actually talking and you know, and

488
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: goofing around, and so he said, well, come on over

489
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: so we wrote a couple of songs and and he

490
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: had a little studio at his at his house that

491
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: and so we turned those demos in and his publisher

492
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: at the time signed signed me as well. So that's

493
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: kind of how I got started and our want to

494
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think Johnny and I ever got

495
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: We got a couple of cross I got one on

496
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: the member of the Forster Sisters. Yeah, it's called Come

497
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: Hold Me. And then uh so then I started writing

498
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,719
Speaker 1: with another guy named Lonnie Wilson's great drummer, session drummer

499
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: and writer and singer. And we had first first top

500
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: five record with Holly Dunn had There Goes My Heart

501
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: Again was the name of it. So so a top

502
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: five song back in eight eighties. Did you make any

503
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: money off that? Dude? I went to the mail by

504
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: and we're seeing that much money in my life? Really

505
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: like the first installment, you know, yeah, I was like,

506
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: I gotta write war songs. That's pretty cool. And how

507
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: long do those checks keep coming? Oh? They the first

508
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: years pretty good. And after that it tapers off significantly

509
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 1: and almost down to nothing, you know, and you're cutting

510
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: these demos that people lynched in your in your singing style,

511
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: which we were on a minute ago. So when did

512
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 1: it become a thing where you go, Okay, I think

513
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: it's time for me to try to be an artist. Well,

514
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of what I had in mind

515
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: all all along. But I just knew that songwriting would

516
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 1: be a good avenue to meet people and and you know,

517
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: just because it was part of the music. But that's

518
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: such a significant part. So I just but I always

519
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: had that in my mind being an artist, but h

520
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: and I didn't really have any way to that that

521
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: I knew. It takes somebody to promote you, basically, And

522
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: so I started doing demos for these the couple of guys,

523
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: and they knew they were good friends with Bob mcgomery,

524
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: who was Epic Records at the time, and uh and

525
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: so after they played him some demos, so he called

526
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: me over and met with me, and I said, how

527
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: would you like to have a record deal? And I'm like,

528
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: uh so, yeah, it's pretty cool. So that was the conversation.

529
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 1: They kind of changed it off, how would you like

530
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: to have a record deal? Conversation? Yeah, exactly, that's pretty cool. Yeah,

531
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: he said, I said, a man, I wanted to do

532
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: this my whole life and he said, no, you haven't.

533
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I looked at him and I was like,

534
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: what do you mean? He goes, you don't lived your

535
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: whole life? You guys thought, okay, one of those guys.

536
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: How long from when you were laid off until you

537
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: got your record deal? Three years? So you spent a

538
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: couple of months figuring it out. You moved here, you wrote,

539
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: so three years from there to there? Right? Do you

540
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: feel like you mad sued a lot as an artist

541
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: at that time in those three years? Probably just just

542
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: from the sheer volume of demos and stuff I did,

543
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: you know? They're all various styles and um, so you

544
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: kind of had to learn to to do that kind

545
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: of you know, just so yeah, I think so. You

546
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: know a lot of the artists and a lot of

547
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: my friends too, that that that are here, that you

548
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: kind of come in in classes. You don't do it

549
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: on purpose, but when you moved to town, you start

550
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: meeting other people that moved town around the same time,

551
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: and that kind of becomes your pack that you grow

552
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: up with because you're all on a similar level exactly

553
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: when you move here, like, who is some of the

554
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,479
Speaker 1: folks in your class, well, to see. There was Tricia

555
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: your Wood, Um, there was a t. Graham Brown. There

556
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: was you know, Garthur singing some demos. I don't know

557
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: if any of the other ones were as you know,

558
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: but I mean the same guys that there's you know

559
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: in my generation or you know of course the Mark

560
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: Chests and Tracy Lawrence and those guys. You know. So

561
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: what was Tricia doing? Was she working at Mary tell

562
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: Moore Music or was she singing demos? I'm not sure.

563
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: I just I had only met her a few times

564
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: when we sing a couple of demos together, yeah, which

565
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: is cool. And then I got I got her just

566
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: saying one a chick song quote unquote that I had

567
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: and so she's saying for me. So we've been friends

568
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: ever since. So whenever you hear or you see someone

569
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: like Gartha Tricia back then, were you like, man, there's

570
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: something special about them, like you think or is it

571
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: or is it just the land of the Giants where

572
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: everybody's good? Most everybody was good? You know, it's it

573
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: was just you felt like it was just kind of

574
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: a crap. Shoot. You know, somebody's gonna get lucky and

575
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: get that deal. And something I happened I tell you

576
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: a weird story and people might think this is really odd.

577
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: I've done this twice in my life. I went to

578
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: see I went to the showcase where it was Garth

579
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: and it was at the Douglas Corner and I was

580
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: sitting around having a beer, you know, walking talking to

581
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: some friends of mine, and I look up and he's

582
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: playing it up there and I saw an aura around him.

583
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, you know. So I started looking around

584
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: the room. I thought, was the lights, guys, be weird,

585
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: that's something weird going on here. And I didn't find

586
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: I couldn't find any reason that he had a blue

587
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: aura around him. I swear to good it was the

588
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: weirdest thing. And the other time was my my wife Tara.

589
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: I saw her. She had an oar. Now do you

590
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: think that that's in your eyes? Do you think that

591
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: you saw something special? I didn't know what it was,

592
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: just I saw. I saw it, and I asked, I said,

593
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: y'all see that. Everybody else like no, and I'm like, man,

594
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: I's okay, I'm I'm gonna get quiet here. So did

595
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: you ever talk to Garth in the early days where

596
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: you guys time, we didn't we weren't super close or anything.

597
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: You know, who were your buds musically and who did

598
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: you like tour with? Who'd you liked to werow with? Well,

599
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of him, you know, I like

600
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: all of the people I've toured with. But let's do

601
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: this mount rushmore of your favorite tour buddies four and

602
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: four you only get four. Oh gosh, that's that's hard, man,

603
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm putting it. I'm putting the screws to you. I mean,

604
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: of course, I mean I toured with Garth, so that

605
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: didn't do a whole lot. We Uh he used to

606
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: open shows for me oddly enough, Yeah, and so but

607
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: we did that and I opened some shows for him

608
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: after that. Of course. You know my one of my

609
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: closest buddies Mark Chestnut, and uh, you know he's he's

610
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: always really consistent. And uh, who else would it be?

611
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: Uh that I toured with, uh, you know, Travis Tritz

612
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: and an incredible singer. A year long tour with him.

613
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: How was that? Because I know Travis a little bit

614
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: and he's at times it's very in your face and

615
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: at times it's super's super warm yew, how about you

616
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: in Travis relationship? It was good. Yeah, it was very good. Yeah. Uh,

617
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: you know, we just we just had a good time

618
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: as me, Travis, myself and Leroy Partnell. We're out there

619
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: and it was a good package. You know, we had

620
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. You got one more on the aunt, Rushman,

621
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: Garth Chestnuts, Tracy Lawrence. You know, Tracy is always good.

622
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: You know when you good when you go see him.

623
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say who else I toured with. I've

624
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: done so many, you know, various packages here and there

625
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: that I can't even remember. You ever put a kid

626
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: opening and that kid turned out to be a big

627
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: starway later on? Uh, let me think I want I

628
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: almost said Brad Paisy, but I'm not sure that ever happened,

629
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: you know, because I've see some I met a kid

630
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: the other night that uh came open. He opened for

631
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: me and Chestnut. We're doing an acoustic thing and he

632
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: came up and saying, this kid was really good. You

633
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: know what was remember? I don't remember, right is me? Yeah? Man,

634
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: it's it's under the little place in Texas we were in. Man.

635
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: We got him up to saying and he was like,

636
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: you nailed. He's saying, is it cold in here in

637
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: my song. So here's another number one. This is it's

638
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: the Devil Danced, The Devil Dance pocket. Do you have

639
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: a ball? He said? A swing in that song? Yeah,

640
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: that's Is that your second number one song? I know?

641
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: I think that was like the third one? Yeah, I

642
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: believe so home hits. You have a number one. What

643
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: was the second big one for you? If you want

644
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: me to? Okay, if you want me to? And then

645
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: I think devil Oh actually may have been new what

646
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: laughing old flying? I can't remember. I lost track? Pick

647
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: up man? Which jam? Where do you put this into

648
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: that list? Oh? It's fourth or fifth. It's gotta be

649
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: interesting to put together set less for you because you

650
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: have so many biggs. It's really hard. I remember, I

651
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: remember touring. I got the final with George Straight but

652
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: put him on that Mount Rushmore when I first started.

653
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: What year was that? It had to have been ninety

654
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: one or two somewhere in that arrange. What does a

655
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: tour like with you and George Straight? Well? I didn't

656
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: really get to see George very much, you know, he

657
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: was he was kind of a private person and uh,

658
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: you know, and he didn't really come to sound checks

659
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: or anything. So I mean, I saw him occasionally and

660
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: he's super super nice man. He just and I just

661
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: remember I was. I was pretty tickle when he finally,

662
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: you know, say hey, Joe, how are you doing, I'm like,

663
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: all right, George, what was my name? Now? So bigger

664
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: than the Beatles, here's right here. Number one for you

665
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 1: Beetles Wild. You know, for me, whenever I would hear

666
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: you as a kid, I always felt like you were

667
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: smiling when you were singing like that. That is part

668
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: of him, you know when you're trying to I mean

669
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: you do think of that. I try to emote, you know,

670
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: put your feelings into the songs you're saying. Say yeah,

671
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: I always felt like when and when I think about

672
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: your songs, I always thinking, man, Joey sounds like he's

673
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: he's having a good time. Yeah, absolutely that that would

674
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: be if I were to I talk about if someone's like,

675
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: what should it sounds like it's it's not like he's smiling,

676
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: like he's having fun singing about country saying what do

677
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: you How do you feel about these artists like the

678
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: the Luke Combs. Um, I'm setting you up here, but

679
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 1: but the guys that are really super traditional style again

680
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: does that excite you. I love it. Yeah, I mean

681
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: country has always been a little bit scyical, you know,

682
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: and it's a it goes from one thing to another

683
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: kind of vacillates back and forth. So I love Luke.

684
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: I got to, along with Vince Gil and a couple

685
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: of other folks, got to induct him to the Grand

686
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: Old Opry recently, so that was pretty cool. Whenever the

687
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: al Dean song came out and the famous lyric is

688
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: Joe Joe Joe Diffe, did you know this was coming? Yeah? Yeah,

689
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: I actually had heard it started up. Somebody contacted me said, man,

690
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: there's a song somewhere out there that has your name

691
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: in them. So really so somehow we got a copy

692
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: of it. It It was a demo, you know. Thomas Rhett

693
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: was one of the writers on that, and so the

694
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: first time I heard it was Thomas Rhet's version, you know,

695
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: and it was a lot more kind of rap feeling

696
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: than than that Jason's version. Jason has a lot more

697
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: guitars and stuff. So yeah, I just like my and

698
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: my band members were sitting around, I said that here's

699
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: that song got my name in it apparently, so I

700
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: put it in there and had all that. We're looking

701
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: atach other like, what the hell is that? You know?

702
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: So Jo, did you did bring you out all out?

703
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: Or wait? Where was it that they did this in

704
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: an award show? It was a C M S They

705
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: had had the giant head? Is that what it was?

706
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: I remember seeing it was, That's what it was, the

707
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,479
Speaker 1: giant head dropped out of the sea. Did you find

708
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: when that song comes out that people were going like

709
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: younger kids were like, who the heck is Joe diffy?

710
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: Like twelve year old dude. I'm that's a good setup

711
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: for for saying this that that because of Jason and

712
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: Thomas Ricks. Thomas does that song on his show as well,

713
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, and so they're getting it's being heard by

714
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know, and so we are.

715
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: Our crowds have just been tremendous and a lot more

716
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, younger people, and they know every day I

717
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: got word to every song was pretty amazing. Back in

718
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: the day, there was that the TV commercial there was

719
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: I think they did pick up man. Pick up Man

720
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: was using and maybe a card truck commercial, board truck

721
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: commercial and did they read the words a little bit

722
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: in it? Well, yeah, they get another singer what was it? No,

723
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: that was that was actually me on camera that that's

724
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: the same one you're talking about. That That commercial actually

725
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: day aired on the super during the super Bowl, So

726
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: that's when that commercial you were in the super Bowl commercial. Yeah,

727
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. That cool. I got more people though

728
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: that had no do I was that saw that and

729
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: we're like, hey, you're that pickup guy. You know, people

730
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: would recognize you for being the pickup guy from the

731
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: commercial more because I was on camera too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

732
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: but they would see you from the It's interesting. I

733
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: was talking to Brad Paisley a couple of weeks ago

734
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: and I said, Hey, what are people like coming up

735
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: to you as the insurance guy? And He's like, yeah,

736
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't even know that I do music,

737
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: if they don't know country music, and they only know

738
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: me from the I think the nationwide commercials. Yeah that's right, Mike. Yeah.

739
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: And so people were coming up to you and you're

740
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: the super Bowl commercial guy. Is that a nice paydy

741
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl commercial? Yes, it's very nice. I

742
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: love pay days. I grew up a song though has

743
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 1: made me probably more money than any of the other

744
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: songs I've had, and I didn't write the song. A

745
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: couple of friends of mine wrote it, and uh so

746
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: they get paid as well, you know, but for for

747
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: the royalty publishing and all that stuff. So but I

748
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: was also an Apple beachs commercial and was it there

749
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: like cars to ghost services, like yeah you pick up Yeah,

750
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: they changed the lyrics on it, and uh I'll tell

751
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: you the miracle of modern stuff, you know, I had

752
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: to do in my house. And and so somehow we

753
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: got my book and agents got they said that they

754
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: were interested in using Pickup Man as a part of

755
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: an Apple Beach commercial, and so they sent me a

756
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: CD of it, just the music and the lyrics changed

757
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: that they had rewritten it basically, and uh so I

758
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: just stuck it into the thing and read the lyrics,

759
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: singing it down. Tell me about an hour, and I

760
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: sent it back. I thought it was gonna be like

761
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,959
Speaker 1: a presentation or a demo for them, and they used

762
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: it and they ken't renew it. Man, it is like

763
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: this is great, I said, kind I guess some more

764
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: of those commercials. Is that where it is like in

765
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: the sink stuff? Yeah, yeah, if you can get it,

766
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: if you can get a get in one of those

767
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: deals this pretty good deal. What's that touring like for you? Now?

768
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: It's great? You done a much shows a lot. Yeah,

769
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: this is I've been working, working a lot and uh

770
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: probably uh you know, just staying really busy, which is

771
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: really good. I like working. You know, we were talking

772
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: earlier that travel part gets a little old. You know,

773
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: you get tired from that. But I mean, you know,

774
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: get the thing due play around and messing around all

775
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: the times. Like it's like I told my guys that

776
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: it's like we're on a big camping trip all the time,

777
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: you know, so we have fun. You worked in oilfield

778
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: for a while. I did. You drove a truck the

779
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: pump cement? Is that true? What does that work? Like?

780
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: It sucked? Yeah. It was for a company called Halliburton

781
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: and uh oddly enough, who were headquartered They used to

782
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: be headquartered in Duncan, Oklahoma. But I had to move

783
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: to Alas, Texas to get to work for him because

784
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: I had an uncle that worked for them, and uh

785
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: so I did. I didn't do that for very long.

786
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: I was there for about I don't know, three or

787
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: four months or so, and I just it was like

788
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: you're gone all the time, and you know that the

789
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: pay was not that great, and uh so I just

790
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: decided I didn't like that, so I moved back to

791
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: Duncan and got a job in that foundry. So so

792
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: what about you going to medical school? Always if you

793
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: had asked me when I was a kid, that's what

794
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: was one to be, was a doctor. And I used

795
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: to read medical books and I followed my parents around

796
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: reading them facts and figures on that kind of stuff.

797
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: You know, what'd your mom and dad do? Uh? They

798
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: were both the teachers. My dad did a little bit

799
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: of everything. He had his own welding company for a while.

800
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: He had a repossession company for a while. Was he

801
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: didn't repo cars. He didn't like that in the middle

802
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: of the night and go and that's a dangerous it's

803
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: very dangerous. You got shot at a couple of times.

804
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: He said he didn't like that. So, yeah, he had

805
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: he actually built since he was a welder. He built

806
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: this rig on the like a hook that that was

807
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: hydraulic and it would come out of the out of

808
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: the back of the pickup and the tailgate would lower

809
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: down and he would just back up to the cars

810
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: and pick him up and drive off with him. That's

811
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: a crazy line of word and thinking. As we get

812
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: as kids, we see adults do things more like that's

813
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: just kind of normal, right, But as you get to

814
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: be an adult and you see other adults repoint and

815
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: people shooting out over that's that's. Yeah. He didn't last

816
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: long with that. He didn't like that at all. And plus,

817
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, you're having to and he just just the

818
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: human element of it. A lot of people who couldn't

819
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: you know, they were behind on their payments through whatever.

820
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: Some of them were just bumms, and some of them

821
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: just lost their jobs or something, you know, or we're ill.

822
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: And he'd after the bank, would you know, telling to

823
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: go get this car. You know. So I had to

824
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 1: work with the bank a lot. And so he didn't

825
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: like that either because then people had to come. He

826
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 1: had to te it to a yard, and then people

827
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: came to the yard and he had to be out

828
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: there while they gathered their belonging to the other repossessed car.

829
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, so he didn't like that. You were

830
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: inducted into the Grand Ole Opry. Yeah, it's a real

831
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: special thing. That was one of one of my highlights

832
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: of my career. I could consider it. You know, how

833
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: did you get told you were going to be in

834
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: the operation kind of the same way I got told

835
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: by a record deal. I went out to the opera

836
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: and and uh, I met with the guy who I

837
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: can't remember his name right now. He was the head

838
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: of it back then, and I just I thought, I

839
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: didn't know why we were even out there, and was

840
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 1: out there with my managers, and he goes, how would

841
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: you like to be remember the grand Ole Obrary. I

842
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, so that really really that's how I

843
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: got my record deal and the Grand Ol Operathing. So

844
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool, pretty low key, and it was very

845
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: low Yeah. Is it true that your parents and your

846
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: parents that you could sing harmonies when you were three

847
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: years old? Now you probably can't remember remember three, You

848
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: do remember three? I remember singing and are we had

849
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: to pick up and uh I had two sisters, have

850
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: two sisters, and so we would all be five or

851
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: five of us being the truck and to keep us

852
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: occupied and and you know, from screaming at each other,

853
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: they would sing solid, simple songs, you know, kids songs,

854
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: and we sing along with them. And at three you

855
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: can harmonize. I just hear, I just heard it. It

856
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: just it was in my head, I could hear it.

857
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: Were you always a really good singer as a seven

858
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: year old? Isn't a church or wherever you were singing?

859
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: You always think? I guess, you know, it's hard to value,

860
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: hard to judge it, you know, I guess were you

861
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: rewarded for your singing at a very young age? Were

862
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: people telling you why? Joe? Yeah, I mean I remember

863
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: my aunt got me up in front of with her

864
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: band and I got up and saying you're my son

865
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: and giant or something like that, you know, and so

866
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. What was that like in the nineties,

867
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: touring with no internet and no cell phone and no

868
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: Google Maps. Do you ever just end up with the

869
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: bus in a wrong talent? Absolutely? Oh you would, Yeah,

870
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, of course you have to get the map

871
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: at and then you had to know, you, hey, even

872
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: our satellite we had did have a satellite dish, but

873
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: your bus had to be stopped and you had to

874
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: like physically enter in, get the atlas out and figure

875
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: out your latitude and your longitude and enter those coordinates

876
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: in and then it would raise up. Yeah. Would you

877
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: ever get somewhere because there weren't cell phones realized there

878
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: was no show happening anymore, or like you get there

879
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: and like no, we tried to get ahold of you,

880
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: but they carryer pigeon, you know. No, unfortunately, never had

881
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: that happen. But what kind of countryms of artists you

882
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: drawn to? Now? I guess I have a tendency to

883
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: lean more towards the country. You're the country side of

884
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: the things, you know, which you know, so you know,

885
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: I enjoy Luke and you know, Brad Paisley and a

886
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: couple of other guys that that I think are good,

887
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: good singers. You know, growing up, who was your favorite?

888
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: Oh man, well, it'd probably have to be George Jones,

889
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: and that's who I emulated, so you know, learned a

890
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: lot by emulating him. But I mean I I had

891
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: a whole rangement. Of course, I had the regulars that

892
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: everybody mentions, Haggard, Jones, Johnny Cash, you know, Conway, there

893
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: was you know, a whole plethora of those people. But

894
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: but I you know, I actually like I loved Loretta

895
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: Lyon and Dolly Parton as well, you know, and Connie Smith,

896
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: and so I heard a lot of those being from Oklahoma.

897
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: And I'll perhaps it with my story. I'm from Arkansas.

898
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: So it was Johnny Cash and Conway Twitty and you can,

899
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: I mean listen, which tall Liman was so big to

900
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: anybody from Arkansas was a big deal to us because

901
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: there weren't a lot of us who made it on

902
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: any sort of national stage being from Oklahoma. Who was

903
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: it that you looked at and was like, wow, like

904
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: this is one of our guys doing or one of

905
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: our girls doing it? Well, I mean obviously, you know,

906
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: but they aren't that much older than I am, but

907
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Reba advanced, they were already involved in doing

908
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: stuff before I ever removed to Nashville. So that was

909
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 1: pretty cool to see that, and you know, you kinda

910
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: kind of take that and you know, feel good about it. Man,

911
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Like I did the Michael was I think

912
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: in DC. I did with Reba Kennedy Honors. I did

913
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: the Kennedy Honors for Reba. I got to go. I did,

914
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: went up and did ten minutes to stand up, and

915
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: there was like six of us the presented Reeve. It

916
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: was me and Brooks and Dunn and Kristin Chenowyth and

917
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson. But anyway, so I go up and I'm

918
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: doing comedy but I'm also talking through as I'm doing comedy.

919
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: Reba's Oklahoma Alive where she was it was, you know,

920
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: doing uh that the roadwork in the rodeos, like singing

921
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: the rodeos and you know, just thinvered singing the national

922
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: anthem at the rodeo, tex Ritter. I think the one

923
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: who for you saw you sing, I know you got

924
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: a record of it. Who saw you randomly if in

925
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: one and they were like, man, I think there could

926
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: be like you're actually pretty good there, Joe, did you

927
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: ever have one of those? A little drunk guy at

928
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: the bar before you go? He threw literally through five

929
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: dollars after he said, telling you out a mood to Nashville,

930
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: you're really good. So have you ever see anybody cover

931
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: your songs nowadays? And you go, man, that's a really

932
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: good version of that song. I've heard it a couple

933
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: of me. That sounds really good. You know, it's fun.

934
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: It's fun to me to hear them. You know, if

935
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: you could pick one of your songs to be covered

936
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: again now and be made a hit again, which which

937
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: song would you like to see a reborn? That's a

938
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: good question. Uh, well, I know my favorite song is

939
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: the ships that don't come in. Oh come on, I

940
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: love the only place. Let me, let me listen. That's

941
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: all never died in bed, insane lot loomsoon allless down

942
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: a man. So everybody listening right now, there's a lot

943
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: of artists listen to this podcast. Ships that don't come in.

944
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: That's the cover to do it is that's that's such

945
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: a great song. I've I've told the writers that David

946
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: gives the Paul Nelson I said that song didn't need me,

947
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: but it needed somebody to see it because it's just

948
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: such a great song. I think it could have been

949
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: a hit with anybody, you know. So I was glad

950
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: I got it. Anybody cool ever come up to you

951
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: that You're like, man, they're a fan of you. But

952
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: You're like, that's really cool. They're a fan of me.

953
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 1: A lot of yeah, a lot uh some people I revere,

954
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I walked I was gonna introduce

955
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: myself to Merle Haggard one time at the A c M.

956
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: And I walked up to because, Joe, how you doing, Man,

957
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of here, And I'm like, Merl

958
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: Hackard knows my name. It's just blows my mind. You know,

959
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: Ronnie Millsnap told me it was you know, so yeah,

960
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: those that's a really special thing when somebody who you

961
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: who you idolize, tells you that, you know, can you

962
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: go to dinner in Nashville with are in Tennessee without

963
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: being bothered? Yeah, And it's people are pretty cool. They're

964
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: really they are. And and I just always I feel

965
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: like it's really not a bother. I mean, the only

966
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: time I never even kind of gets under my skin

967
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: a little bit is if I'm in the middle of eating.

968
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: You know, I often say if people are eating or

969
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: with their kids, those are really the only two times,

970
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: because otherwise everyone neces what they signed up for, right figure,

971
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: your public figure. But eating like literal food on the table,

972
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: fork in my hand, eating something and something. Yeah, but

973
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: I mean, and of course people don't mean any harm

974
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: by it, you know, a fact fact. George Jones and

975
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: I were at dinner one night, one evening, and and

976
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: this lady came up, and we were in the middle

977
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: of eating, and she comes up with a little boy,

978
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: and and she goes, I don't mean to bother you guys,

979
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: And George goes, but what are you doing it for?

980
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: He was teasing, of course, you know. So what is

981
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: it like to be a fan of George Jones and

982
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: then here you are having dinner? Now I couldn't I

983
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: don't even know how. I couldn't even talk to him.

984
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to even ask him. I'm assuming

985
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: he has to invite you. Yeah, and did you got

986
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 1: where did that relationship? How did it start? Just from

987
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: doing a couple of shows to other and uh? And

988
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: I sang on on his hit song, I don't need

989
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: your rocking chair, I don't need yeall you met a game. Yeah,

990
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: so that was one of the most special things. Not

991
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: only because of that, but I got to take my dad.

992
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: I didn't tell him where we were going. He was

993
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: George Jones, his idol, you know, so I just took him.

994
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: I took him. He said, where are we going? I said,

995
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: just come on, you know. So I took him in

996
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: there and and uh, there was all he saw Alan Jackson,

997
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: Clint bike and all these people. He was like, what

998
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: is this? What's going on here? Then the limo pulls up.

999
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: George gets that. He was just I've never seen he

1000
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: was speechless. He just was stunned by you know. So

1001
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: that's really cool, right, Like, of all the moments, I

1002
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: getting to do things for the people that you care about,

1003
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: at least for me, has been that kind of the

1004
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: coolest thing to do. Absolutely, that's pretty cool that you're

1005
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: a big fan of George Jones and the next then

1006
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: you're at dinner with Really it took me a couple

1007
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: of times, uh before I was able to converse with

1008
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: him because I was just really so Nerve was some

1009
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: and he was just such an icon in my eyes.

1010
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: But he I found it later on. He was He

1011
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: was just so he's just so country, you know, He's

1012
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: like and he's like talking to your grandpa. He couldn't

1013
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: hear it real good, you know, So you say something

1014
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: and he goes, you know. So then I got even

1015
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: to sing on a on a song with me and

1016
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: it was really cool too. Did you ever meet Tammy? Oh? Yeah,

1017
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: Tammy was once. She loved my singing. Yes, you asked

1018
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: about that earlier. She I forgot about Tamm but she

1019
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: was a huge fan of mine. In fact, I sang on.

1020
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: She did an album of duets with a lot of

1021
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: rock artists, and I think me and wend known Over

1022
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: the only two country people she has to be on there.

1023
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: So that was really neat to get to sit there.

1024
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about bizarre. All of a sudden,

1025
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there right next to Tammy Win that and

1026
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: we sang it live, we sang it down live. It

1027
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: was you know, there was no overdubbing or punching in.

1028
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: It was that. That's what it was. So were you

1029
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: around when they were doing the tours of stars homes

1030
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: when they would actually dry by people's houses, which nowadays

1031
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: seems really weird. It's a it's a pain in the rear.

1032
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 1: You'll be up more on your lawns all the time. Yeah,

1033
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: So I'm only what happens. You're all sweating, and you

1034
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: know they you know, here there comes that bus, little

1035
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: people and they are all taking pictures of you and

1036
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: you're sweat and dripping off of you got grass all

1037
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: over you. You know, it's like hill. You know, how

1038
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: would they find your house? I don't know how that.

1039
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how they did it,

1040
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: because if they did that nowadays, that would be the weirdest. Well,

1041
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: I asked him, I asked made request. I said, Look,

1042
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: not only it's it's bothering me, but it's bothering my

1043
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: neighbors as well, to have these busses coming and stopping

1044
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: in that and everybody getting out and all this. We

1045
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: get out of the bus a couple of times I did, yeah,

1046
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: so and I guess it's not illegal. No. I actually

1047
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: called and asked, is there any way we can make

1048
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: this stop? And they're like no, so okay. So it

1049
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: was kind of weird. So after that, literally I'll be

1050
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: up more on the lawn or doing something outside and

1051
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: and i'd be watching because I knew about what time

1052
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: of day they came by it. So I just watched

1053
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 1: for when I go hide, you know, run behind the shed.

1054
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: Everybody check it out. Joe Joe, Joe Diffy. Each album

1055
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: is individually autographed and numbered, and it's at Joe Diffy

1056
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: dot com slash vinyl. But I'm sure if you just

1057
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Speaker 1: go to Joe Diffy dot com there's also a link

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00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: up there that says for the vinyl right if you

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00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: can't spell vinyl, cause I'll be honest, not a great

1060
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: word to spell. B I N Y L not No,

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00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm not. I would have been anyone on that um

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00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: as long as there's a bar. Yeah, tell me about

1063
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: that A couple of great friends of mine wrote that

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00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: guy Gaylan Griffin and uh and Brian Keith Burns who

1065
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: was in Trick Pony and he played bass for me

1066
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: for like seven years early in my career, and so

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00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: they wrote this song. It just reminded me of brought

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00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: me up a little bit. So that's that's that's most

1069
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: of the reason I did it. With a lot of

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00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: the music from when I was a kid in the

1071
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: nineties where you have a bunch of your number one

1072
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: songs kind of re emerging as a big deal. Did

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00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: that help your touring nineties country? Like? Was it? Like? Absolutely?

1074
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: It was like a whole new rebirth of touring for you. Absolutely, yeah,

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00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: helped it and tremendously. And like I say, uh, with

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00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: the advent of that song in the nine I've got

1077
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: so many new art, new fans and you know, younger fans.

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Speaker 1: It's just really it's really been pretty amazing to me. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm super happy that that you came by. Good luck,

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00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: Hope yourself. So many of these these vinyl records that

1081
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: you're so annoyed having to sign, that's problem to have

1082
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: is the best I would get so irritated signed these

1083
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: books and be like, I'm so happy to be irritated.

1084
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: It was the greatest irritation you gotta Sometimes, you know,

1085
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: you get a little a little by ester who or

1086
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: just worn out with things over time when you you

1087
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: kind of it's good to get a little, uh, you know,

1088
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: check once in a while, just to kind of a

1089
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: little gut check and say, okay, wait a minute, I'm

1090
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: doing the best. I got the best job in the world.

1091
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: You know. I could be at roof and house and

1092
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: I used to do that. You know, I could be

1093
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: back on doing clean I used to do clean up

1094
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: from moving house, which is even the ruinouse. All right,

1095
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: so I have I'm I'm just so lucky and so blessed,

1096
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: like a great family, you know, and so great friends.

1097
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's a it's a pleasure for me. Well,

1098
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: you're always welcome. I got a Christmas card from you,

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00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: all right, Yes? Did you know that I did? Yes.

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Speaker 1: I felt like I was giving I felt like I

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00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: was giving him news. Mike. He was like, he was like, oh,

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00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: you gotta Christmas. I got a Christmas car from a

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00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: couple of days. It's just a gazillion, but we're glad

1104
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 1: that you're on the list, so it was news to you. Well,

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00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: she told me about it, yes, okay, good before yesterday. Regardless,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty cool. I'm not gonna lie

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Speaker 1: to you. Thought it was pretty cool. Joe Diffie dot

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Speaker 1: com slash Vinyl Joe, good luck and good to see

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Speaker 1: you again. Thank you. Episode to seventeen here on the

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Speaker 1: Bobby Cat