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Speaker 1: Drive with Dave Lolly and Matt Williamson on your home

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Speaker 1: of the Black and Gold s Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally here with Matt Williamson. Matt, we're talking

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Speaker 1: a lot about the Denver Broncos and where they're at

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Speaker 1: in their season. You know, it just goes to show

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Speaker 1: who you play has such a determining factor. It's massive.

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Speaker 1: You know. We talked about it in the off season

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Speaker 1: with the with the when the schedules came out like

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Speaker 1: fans out there going, oh, yeah, they're gonna be like

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Speaker 1: four and oh at this point of course? Not right

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Speaker 1: you said yesterday most people had the Steelers too and

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Speaker 1: too right now, you know that's the doesn't None of

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Speaker 1: we should know that year after year and even you know,

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Speaker 1: I just ranked them one in the power ranks. They

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Speaker 1: you know. Or even the Steelers quote games they should

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like look back at it after

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Speaker 1: if you want to analyze those type of things and

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Speaker 1: and it will be. Russell Wilson has won a lot

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Speaker 1: if he gets if they play Thursday? What if Russell

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Speaker 1: so it's it's all relevant and things change quickly in

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Speaker 1: it hasn't been great, it's just four weeks. Uh, you know, teams, coaches,

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Speaker 1: That's what I want to hear from the coaches because

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Speaker 1: they always split things into four game quarter quarters. When

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Speaker 1: Steelers Digest and Steelers dot Com. Bob, have you gotten

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Speaker 1: Is this thing still split split into quarters? Or is

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Speaker 1: that seventeenth game now an overtime game. Uh, good question.

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm still trying to, you know, filter through

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