WEBVTT - Tony Hawk 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.560 Hello, this is Craig Ferguson letting you know that I 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:04.960 am hitting the road again this week with my Fancy 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:09.799 Rascal Tour, starting in Boulder, Colorado on August seventeenth and eighteenth, 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:14.440 and continuing to many other beautiful regions throughout September, October, 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:17.239 and November. For the full list of dates, please go 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:20.239 to my website, the Craig Ferguson Show dot collm slash Tour, 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:23.040 where you can also buy tickets or not see you 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:24.119 out there or not. 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:30.040 My name is Craig Ferguson. This podcast is called Joy. 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.839 It's not rocket science. I talk to people I like 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:35.480 about their pursuit of happiness. 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:43.040 Here's Tony Hawk, a legend, an icon, maybe the icon 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:44.440 of the skateboard world. 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:51.080 Enjoyman, how are you feeling about the way? Are you 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:53.760 all right? Like I gonna make you? 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:57.560 That seemed like a much more loaded question, But no, 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:04.520 I yeah, I broke my leg by year ago. And yes, finally, yes, 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:08.080 I went through a false start the first time because 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.640 I got back too soon and the impact forced my 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:13.559 bone to never reconnect. 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.280 Evil shit going on, I mean. 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:22.480 In hindsight, it's regrettable, it's embarrassing. But I also was 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:24.640 in denial of it. I thought that I was just 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.759 going through a harder time. So about eight months into 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:29.959 my recovery, I realized that it wasn't getting any better. 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:33.760 I wasn't improving in terms of what I could do physically, 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:36.280 And I went and got X rays and realized that 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.880 the bone was actually further apart than it had been 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:44.080 post surgery, And went and got it realigned with a 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.680 specialist and waited, and that was that was the key. 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:48.960 Just wait, do you have a Do you have a 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:50.920 different pain threshold to normal humans? 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:51.920 Have you ever had it tested? 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:56.120 No, but it's it's definitely been noted by by others 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:57.320 and friends and things. 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:01.160 Well, he's funny. I watched till the wheels come off. Yeah, 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.120 And I was looking at the spells that you were 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:05.480 taking or what do you see? 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:08.760 I don't know there's right terminology because I'm not spell right. 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:13.160 Spill slams? Sure, all right? Or falls or maybe yes, 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.359 all our peace? Like I see some of the hurt. 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:16.160 You say bail. 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.880 If you see bail, then that's more intentional. And what 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.639 you were seeing there was definitely no. 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:25.560 One was Yeah, they were like but even from THEA 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.720 when you were a little kid, like everything just like 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:31.079 slamming into this thing. 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:32.840 Over and over and over again. Do you get immune 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:34.280 into it? Is that it's not immune. 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.639 It's more that there's an acceptance that comes with it, right, 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.480 that I need to endure this for the sake of progression, 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.720 and so that that has always been my attitude, and 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.840 so I didn't I didn't mind it so much. Sometimes 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.760 it's worse than others, but not that often. I mean, 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:52.760 there's there's sort of this. I guess it's more like 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.680 when you choose a life of skateboarding, there's sort of 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.240 a level of pain that you know there's always going 0:02:58.320 --> 0:02:59.959 to be low lying. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:04.360 Like all the time. But see, I envy you very much. 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.240 Not about the money and drugs and famoush I've had 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:08.160 enough of that. 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:11.160 But but you knew your thing and you have your thing. 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.400 It's not like it was evident any question because you 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:17.040 said right there you chose a life of skateboarding, or 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.040 you didn't say you chose it, but you used that expression. 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.840 Do you think you chose you because like your dad 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:24.840 at that point as well, because your dad was heavily 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:25.600 involved in there. 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:26.959 Yeah, that's a good question. 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:29.200 I would say that I chose a life of skateboarding 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:32.520 early on, even when it was not there was no 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:36.120 path to success because no one had carved that path yet, right, 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:38.240 But I love what it provided me. 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:39.480 So I just loved skating. 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:43.080 But I would say later on there was a sense 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:46.280 of skateboarding chose me in that suddenly people were asking 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:50.240 me to sort of be the spokesperson. Yeah, and I 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.720 was willing to do it, but it wasn't what I 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:53.360 aspired to. 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.440 Did you aspire to at the beginning? Just keep learning 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.000 new tricks? It was pretty simple. 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.480 But it's a funny thing though, because I mean, like, 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.360 you're one of those people that's really difficult to have 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.560 a conversation with. It's recorded not because you're difficult, but 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.720 because the people that are into your thing are so 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.440 messianic about your thing that if I say the wrong 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.200 word instead of spill, I say or slam, I say 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:20.640 spill or like, people get fucking crazy about it, and. 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.400 It's kind of say less now than before I understand 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:23.880 what you're saying. 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:25.080 Yeah, but it was funny. 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.560 I watched it because I thought that the documentary about 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:30.880 you and a lot of your contemporaries Till the Wheels 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:31.240 Come off. 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.040 That's what it's called. Right till the whill's fall off, 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:35.039 till wiels fall off. Right, See I said, come off, 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:38.720 fall off. I've seen that actually in Prince. Yeah, don't 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:39.360 worry about that. 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:43.200 So, but I was watching it and because I'm not, like, 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.359 I'm not in that world. I mean I know of it, 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:48.320 but I'm not inside it. And the athleticism and the 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:52.360 grace and the style and the craziness. 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:55.640 Of all of that. What you do is obvious to anyone, 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:57.239 even a casual glance. 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:02.440 But what I wasn't expecting to see is first of all, 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.600 the development of the world. I mean, like you were, 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.520 that's like being around at the start of golf or 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:08.600 something generally. 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:10.240 In a lot of ways. 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:14.479 And then you, and I think Mullins as well, a 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:18.120 very a very strong sense of I don't really think 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.240 it's about the board, and it hasn't been about the 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.240 board for a long time. I feel like it's it's 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.240 something else. It's like a search for grace. It's like 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.239 the way guys climb mountains or something. 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:28.760 Yeah, I would agree with you there. 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:32.440 I think that, especially with Rodney and I, we were 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:38.560 so hyper focused on new moves, new tricks, and we 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.680 didn't know what the goal of that was. It just 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.560 fed us. So we would we learned new chick and 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:44.680 then move on to the next one, move on to 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:46.359 the next one. And we didn't really think about that 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:48.400 we were creating any sort of movement. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.039 We just had to do it. And then as we 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.160 got older, that became. 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:55.919 You know, there's an argument that became more of a 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.760 curse than a blessing because we keep chasing it to 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:03.320 our detriment. Where even Rodney, I mean you see him now, Like, 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:05.599 let's put it this way. Rodney walks through an airport 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.760 and people come up with courtesy carts, So do you 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:10.400 need a ride? 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.080 Really? Yeah, that's the truth, do you know what I mean? 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:14.640 Like people do that to me too. 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:21.320 But skapboard because he walks with such pain, right, but 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:25.320 he will skate for three to four hours every single 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:26.720 night on his own. 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.760 That's interesting. So he's more comfortable skating than walking. 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:31.720 There, Absolutely, yeah, you that way too. 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:36.720 Still, I would say before I got hurt, Yes, now 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:40.560 I definitely have a little more hesitation in my skating 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:41.719 because I should. 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:45.080 I'm still on the healing path. But yeah, also, like 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:46.680 everybody else, you get older. 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.279 You get older, sure, but I feel like I think 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:53.040 what wasn't really talked about in that documentary because it's 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.240 nuanced and it's more My personal thing is that my 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.960 style has changed quite a bit in the last ten 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:03.560 years in that I'm more focused on low impact skating. 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.039 And I know what you saw there was pretty crazy 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:08.440 and I did some crazy stuff and whatever, but really 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:12.360 my focus, especially with tricks, has been more technical, and 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:16.240 so it's more like board maneuvering and stuff that just 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:18.160 is on the top of the ramp as opposed to 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:18.880 ten feet above it. 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:19.679 Right. 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.960 So it's funny because I don't I can see the 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.840 athleticism of it, but I don't understand how it's done. 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.880 It's like if I watch someone play golf, it swim 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:29.200 even do you know what I mean. It's like, I 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.600 know how it's done, but like I've watched what you 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.480 do and what Mullins does and what all these other 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.120 guys do. I'm like, I don't even know where you 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.840 start with that, you know, I mean, but you've you've 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.840 created I mean you personally as well with the Foundation, 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.280 have moved into this idea of like expanded it. 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:49.920 There's how many parks have you put together? 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.080 Now, uh, well, we've helped a fund over seven hundred 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.480 over the last twenty years. And I mean that's my 0:07:56.520 --> 0:08:00.520 proudest work and that stems from my extreme sperience at 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.800 the skate park as a kid, because I got very 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.240 lucky in that one of the last parks in the 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.240 US happened to be in San Diego, pretty close to 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.720 where I lived. And that was never lost on me 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.480 that I had that place to go, and I had 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.440 that sense of community and I had that support group there. 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:18.920 I mean, yes, it was my training ground, but it 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:20.560 was also just this place of belonging. 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:21.840 It was like where the kids went. 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.080 It was I mean it was you found me there 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.560 at all hours until they close when school was out. 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.920 But when I had a sense of success in a 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.839 way to sort of help I don't know that the 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:38.040 the industry or the skaters. That was my first go 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.480 to was I want to provide more skate parks because 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.600 all these kids feel disenfranchised. They love skating and they're 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.600 told not to do it because it's on public property 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.720 or property and it's a nuisance in it and whatever else. 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:52.800 But it's like, but they found something. It speaks to them, 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:54.679 and that I think is a healthy outlet. 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:56.240 What do you think it would have hamm to you 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:59.200 if if you hadn't found skating or it hadn't found you. 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:02.080 I think I would have just been doing something really 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:05.920 tech oriented because I was really fascinated with technology also 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.800 my teenage years and I mean still to this day. 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.040 But I was an early adopter, like I had one 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.719 of the first nonlinear video editing systems, and. 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:18.880 Really I did because I thought, I guess the answer 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.480 I was kind of expected was that you would have 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.120 been lost without it. 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:27.000 But it doesn't say I probably wouldn't have felt as 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:32.880 rich for sure, that I wouldn't have felt as validated 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:37.760 or or felt like there was something that I could 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:41.400 do that really fed what I needed in terms of 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:46.160 creativity wise, right, And so maybe doing video projects or 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.640 something would have touched on that a bit, but I 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.000 don't think it would have provided the same. 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:53.040 It's an interesting form of creativity as well, doing you know, 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.880 creating tricks on a board. I mean it's it's like 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:59.559 painting with something that nobody's painted with until or or 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:01.119 seventy or something. 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.840 Or did you do you think anyone will appreciate it? Well? 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.160 Yeah, I think people do, But I just say, what 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.480 back then, especially with the creation, like with Rodney and I, 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.680 when we were doing all these tricks, it was kind 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:13.040 of considered a circus act. 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.600 Well, it's got a bet of that in it, you know. 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.160 I mean when you guys was doing the tours with 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.360 the you know, standing up in the arena with the 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.040 you know, with the ramps and the motorbikes, and it's 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:25.880 a little bit of a travel in circus, Isn't it 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:26.400 a little bit off? 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:27.839 For sure? Yeah? Absolutely. 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:31.480 But what I'm saying is is in our world, skating 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.400 was a pretty small community. We were the outcast of 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.920 that community because all we cared about was tricks. Everyone 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:41.160 else cared about right style and how much air they get. 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:43.880 And so Rodney and I were these outcasts, like we 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:47.200 were outcasts in an outcast activity, and so we didn't 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.920 think there was any sort of there would be any 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:51.720 accolades in that. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:53.840 We just love doing it, do you know. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.120 For a while I worked with Mick Jagger or writing 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:01.160 a screenplay that never happened because I was doing it. 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:02.959 I was on tour with the Rolling Stones for a 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.800 while and I got to see up close how the 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:10.120 Rolling Stones work, and I was watching Keith Richards, who 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.400 you remind me of a little bit, because he would 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.520 be quite happy if he was playing that guitar in 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:19.400 a shitty blues band in a pub in London. Fight 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.360 doesn't matter. Or if he's playing the enormo Dome in 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.600 San Diego, doesn't fucking matter. It's playing the guitar the cats. 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.280 Yeah. And is that the same for you on the board? Yeah? 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.160 So even when when you were doing the like when 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:33.679 things were nutty. 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.560 When you're like you have your own playing and you 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.319 you know, like the crowds are crazy and the money's 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.199 nuts and stuff like that, was it all still focused 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:41.680 on the board. 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:45.600 Is that what kept you out of the druggy drinking one? Yeah? Yeah, 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:46.880 I believe so. Yeah. 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.200 I mean I definitely had my own vices and distractions 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:54.920 through the crazy years, but always the priority was skating. 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.800 And I think that even in my youth, when in 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.480 the eighties when we thought we were having unparalleled success 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.160 and we were doing all, you know, we were doing 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.280 some TV stuff and movie stuff, I was always really 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:10.439 focused on the skating because I saw my peers, some 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.079 of them get distracted and get caught up in the 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.520 hype and and get hooked on drugs and then they 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.320 lost their abilities. And it was like that was my 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.280 very first example, like, don't don't go to that, Right. 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:24.280 That's what I thought. I mean, it's not something you 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.120 can do when you're high. Is get on a board 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:27.000 or is it? 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:30.520 I don't know, maybe for a certain amount of time. 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.240 Right, did you ever like, do you ever give demonstrations 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.120 you ever you know, get on the board and do 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.000 crazy shit when you were massed up? 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:37.319 No? 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.720 I think, my it's funny. 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.920 I remember the skate park I grew up at. People 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:45.800 would smoke weed in the parking lot. Not everyone, but 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:46.480 some Oh. 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.360 Come on, everybody, It's California, the whole states. Well, I was. 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.480 Pretty young too, so I remember one day I was like, oh, 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:54.520 I'm gonna go join the crew, and then I came 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.559 back to skate and I just couldn't get it together. 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.559 I couldn't, you know, everything was My timing was off. 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:04.360 I kept almost almost we call hanging out, which means 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.360 like locking up on the coping where your board sticks 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:07.040 all right. 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.000 And I just thought, Okay, I can't. I can't do that. 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.839 That doesn't work for me. And drinking is just out 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:13.640 of the question, right, And you're skating. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:15.199 So I think that was I think I'm beginning to 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:19.680 figure out why I never get into skateboard. But it's 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.559 kind of interesting though, because it is that is a 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.560 real kind of positive thing. If you're talking about all 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.240 these skate parts for kids, if you can't do it properly, 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.840 when you're twisted on booze and olk or in drugs, right, 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:34.160 you're kind of helping people stay away from it a 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:34.480 little bit. 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:38.240 I mean, I for sure there is the contingent that 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.960 they equate partying with, of course skateboarding, and they do it, 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.440 and honestly it's probably more of a short lived thing, 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.920 but that's their life. I can't I'm not trying to 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:51.400 have some just say no campaign skate parts that it's 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.400 more that we want to provide them in the outlet. 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:55.880 Yeah, because when you started, it was it was basically 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:57.959 it was just dried out swimming pools, right, that was 0:13:58.200 --> 0:13:58.920 that was the beginning. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.040 Yeah, I got in at the tail end of that. 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.160 So the Dogtown and Z Boys, I knew of that 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.480 crew as I started, but they were already as far 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.120 as I was concerned, much older. 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:10.400 Well as the evolution of it. 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:11.760 If you can take me through it a little bit, 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.920 so that dog Town was is that the very beginning. 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.800 The beginning has there's how it began. 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:22.080 But basically, the first skateboard, it is said, was a 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:25.520 roller skate that was dismantled the trucks and wheels were 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.440 nailed onto a two by four, right, and that was 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:32.680 a skateboard. And then a lot of the Southern California 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:37.000 people took that as that surfing on a sidewalk, right, 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.680 So then they started developing actually shaped boards out of 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:44.400 fiberglass and wood like surfboards were made, and then they 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:48.520 were trying to emulate surfing. Once the big drought hit 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:52.320 in the seventies in southern California, all these swimming pools 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.480 were dry, and the surfers saw that, oh, that looks 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:59.440 like a wave, and that's how we got to do 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:03.280 you surf? I do, yeah, but not as actively. And 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.480 the reason I got into skateboarding because my older brother 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.960 was a hardcore surfer, and so he got into skateboarding 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.359 by default, because that was if you live in Southern California, 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.680 he surfed in the seventies, you started skating. And that's 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:16.720 how I got my first skateboard was his hand me down. 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:21.600 Oh wow, he must be very happy for you. 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.920 He's very happy that he can school me in surfing. Still, 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:25.960 that's what he's happy about. 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.360 Hello everybody, this is Craig Ferguson letting you know that 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.720 my Fancy Rascal Tour resumes this August and continues all 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.200 the way through November. For a full list of dates 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:41.120 and tickets, please go to my website, the Craig Ferguson 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.360 show dot com slash Tour. 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.280 Well, it's funny that you're you're a lot younger than 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.960 your nearest sibling, right, Yeah, he's thirteen years older than me. 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:54.280 Right. 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.600 My son, my youngest son, is nine and a half 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:01.400 years younger than his older brother. And I was watching 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.000 the energy of you as a young kid. It reminded 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.320 me very much like my own son is very like that, 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:09.520 like a kind of sixty pound psychopath. Really, I mean 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.760 just like and I had one of those two. Yeah, 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.520 they're kind of amazing. I think there's something to do 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.720 with being light as well. See that I was a 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:21.480 husky little kid. Yeah, so if I fail, it really hard, right, 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:23.480 if you were sixty pounds and you fall, I think 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:24.320 it hurts less. 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.840 Maybe, But I think the light and fearless is a 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.400 scary combination. Yeah, that's definitely I had I had one 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.080 of that. We have several children between my wife and I, 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.240 but there was one that was we called him a pixie. Yeah, 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:38.560 but he would try anything, but almost to the point 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:40.440 where he had no sense of mortality. 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:42.640 Yeah. Well kids are kind of like that a little bit. Yeah, 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.040 but he was off, he was on a different chart 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:45.640 a little bit. 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.640 Do you think that you were more cautious like as 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.600 a parent because you had gone through all of those 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:53.240 injuries and that the. 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.400 Creation of that world, as that world is forming, I would. 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.920 Say that I probably leaned more towards the other side 0:16:59.920 --> 0:17:02.480 of it in my early years of parenting because I 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:04.399 was young. I was I was twenty four when my 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.040 son was more and yeah, and I was just joining 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:10.399 him doing stuff and getting him into skateboarding, and you know, 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.800 he's going down big ramps and I'm pushing him into 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:14.720 waves and it was just more like, oh, I have 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.080 this friend to do the stuff with. And it wasn't 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:20.240 I was trying to keep him safe as well. But 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:22.560 I did think that he had a pretty good sense 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.000 of his limitations, right, and I was thankful for that. 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:26.959 It wasn't until I had other kids that I realized, Oh, 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.400 they don't all have that alteration gene. 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.240 Yeah, it's funny that when you become a parent, and 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:34.200 just as you get older as well, because I was 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:35.840 different from my older boy than I was with the 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:36.400 younger one. 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.200 But they are different too. They are. Yes, there's a 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:40.520 lot of nurture and nature. 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.800 Yeah, what do you think like because your dad was 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.240 very supportive to you, at least at least I took 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.639 that for the documentary that you and your dad were 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:51.080 close and he was very supportive. But the world was 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:55.400 forming the competitive Is it competitive? I guess it's competitive, yeah, 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:58.320 competitive skateboarding. But when I looked at that, the thing 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.160 when you first got to do the nine hundred right 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:05.200 or when you finally cracked how many times did you. 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:07.399 Do that that day that X games to get to that? 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:11.040 Now that I think that day was eleven or twelve 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.800 or something. But it's funny that people focus in on 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.919 that because there were plenty of other days where I 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:18.679 tried it dozens of times? 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:20.639 Right? But did you get it? Though you didn't get it? 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.440 Why that's why they focused because the day you get 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.639 it is that's the day right, right, But you know 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.240 what I mean, Like that was a relatively short duration 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.600 of attempts for as far as I was concerned. 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.920 Right when people say you tried lem tones, like, yeah, 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.879 that's nothing. I tried hundreds of times before that, like 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:37.520