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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. So Bronni is gonna take on Cooper Flag

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Speaker 2: Earlier Today, Rob Parker said this about coach primes. Take

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Speaker 2: last year, first half of this year, and your overall

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Speaker 2: Shoe hee Otani was having an average or below average

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Speaker 2: first half of the season, would he still be an

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Speaker 2: All Star? Yes? Yes, one soda shit as well. That's

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Speaker 2: what the Fox said.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb

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Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox

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Speaker 2: Let's find out who what is annoying? Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying, Hey, Doug.

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Speaker 9: This is a great combination of a lack of education

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Speaker 9: mixed metaphor. This is an all timer. Michael Porter talking

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Speaker 9: about his new opportunity in New Jersey. Oh, Brooklyn.

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Speaker 8: I'm really excited for this next chapter out here in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 8: I think over there in Denver, I felt like my

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Speaker 8: my ceiling had kind of plateaued. You know, we we

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Speaker 8: do feel like my ceiling in Denver kind of plateaued

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Speaker 9: All right, So Michael Porter, this is the reason. This

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Speaker 9: is how he felt with the Nuggets.

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Speaker 8: My ceiling is kind of plateaued.

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Speaker 9: So you can't have a plateau ceiling, I think all

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Speaker 9: I think all ceilings are pretty much plateaued. Other than

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Speaker 9: those dome ceilings. You could reach your ceiling and you can't.

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Speaker 9: Things can plateau. We've heard both of those analogies. But

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Speaker 9: ceilings don't plateau.

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Speaker 2: Do No, No, they do not plateau, not at all.

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Speaker 2: That's a weird one. That's a weird one. And by

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Speaker 2: the way, like Michael Port, like you were hurt last year.

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Speaker 2: All you do is shoot threes, But you know, why

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Speaker 2: not just say like, hey, I think I can make

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Speaker 9: Because the ceiling plateau, and he wanted to sound smart

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Speaker 2: Hey us, he used words that you think can kind

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Speaker 9: Leo Messi, Lionel Messi, however you want to put this,

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Speaker 9: He's gonna he wears a pink jersey for an MLS team.

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Speaker 9: He made history last night. Doug became the first MLS

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Speaker 9: player to score multiple goals in four straight league games.

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Speaker 9: So I think when he signed with the pink team. There.

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Speaker 9: The hot take in the first twenty four hour news

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Speaker 9: MLS relevant. He has done in four straight games, something

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Speaker 2: Wait say it again, We'll move on.

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Speaker 9: So ABS in the All Star Game, Major League Baseball

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Speaker 9: no sense. I've been very consistent on this podcast with

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Speaker 9: this message. MLB should have had ABS three years ago,

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Speaker 9: you're compelling your All Stars to look like petty assholes

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Speaker 9: and actually challenge a ball strike call in an exhibition game.

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Speaker 2: That whole thing doesn't make any sense, Like, if you

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Speaker 2: have abs and you have it ready to go, why

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Speaker 2: are you gonna use it. It's gonna kind of be

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Speaker 2: let's just get through it. No, I'm gonna challenge ball

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Speaker 2: something that somebody sounded thought was a good idea in

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Speaker 2: to a theater or you Abs. Here's what ABS is.

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Speaker 2: But then again in execution of it, it it Yeah,

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Speaker 9: So Abs in the All Star Game. Michael Porter's mixed

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Speaker 2: I think Alino Messi doing nothing last year. Huge splash,

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Speaker 2: MIAMIFC everybody's paying attention today, Like, I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who's good, who's playing. Is he still

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Speaker 1: Why are we doing this?

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 1: Because we can.

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Speaker 2: Ah, we played things on the podcast because we can,

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Speaker 2: and and others others just frankly cannot. That's really kind

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Speaker 2: of what it comes down to. Here's how Will Clark

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Speaker 2: He's on his podcast with Eric Burns really Sunday.

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Speaker 6: He did not come out early at all, period, not

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Speaker 2: So as long as he hits, I guess it's fine,

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Speaker 2: he gets away with it. But the lack of buy

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Speaker 2: Clark's starting to teach you is more than a little alarming.

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Speaker 2: Why could we played for you because we can't. All Right,

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Speaker 2: that's it for the end of the Modest podcast. Check

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Speaker 2: out the radio show every day three to five. He's

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Speaker 2: from twelve to Pacific Fox Sports Tradio. I Heart Radio app.

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Speaker 2: I'm Doug Goli