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Speaker 4: Pat all right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. We are live

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Speaker 4: with a special edition of our show from training camp

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Speaker 4: here at Jillette Stadium. We are high above the practice fields, myself,

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Speaker 4: Fred Kursh, Paul Parrillo, Evan Lazar, Mike du So, Tamara Brown,

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Speaker 4: and we'll be here for the duration of practice today

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Speaker 4: with a special guest after the show that we'll get live.

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Speaker 4: So it's a full slate. Can't wait. Fans are trickling

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Speaker 4: in here at Jillette Stadium. I can say that city

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Speaker 4: So was the first player out in the field, but

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Speaker 4: players are now coming out from the locker room to

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Speaker 4: the field. So we're getting ready to practice here. Practice

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Speaker 4: should start approximately eleven o'clock. And she could see Paul, Evan,

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Speaker 4: Mike Tamara all here ready to go.

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Speaker 5: Fired up.

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Speaker 6: You feel so far away. Fred, I'm like, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I know. It was exciting me and Tamara just came

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Speaker 6: from down on the fields. A lot of Patriots Unfiltered

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Speaker 6: listeners down there, including one name.

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Speaker 5: I believe it's Linda.

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Speaker 6: Was Linda who drove all the way from Georgia to

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Speaker 6: come to camp today and to uh not only meet us,

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Speaker 6: but apparently Alex Barth too. She took a picture of

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Speaker 6: a selfie with Barth, so you know she catched twenty

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Speaker 6: two fans. She's a Patriots Unfiltered fans, so it was

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Speaker 6: cool too. That's a hardcore. It's hardcore like that, she

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Speaker 6: told me. She told me she even sent a question

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Speaker 6: into Catch twenty two. When they read it, very exciting

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Speaker 6: for them day. So they're excited. Fans are excited and

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Speaker 6: uh making dreams come true, making dreams come dream maker

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Speaker 6: Evan Lazar and Alex Barth.

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Speaker 5: So she drove from Georgia from I.

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Speaker 6: Couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. So they're excited.

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Speaker 7: She told Alex that she wanted to take a picture

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Speaker 7: with me, but settled for hours and I was cool

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Speaker 4: We can see in the fielders Gerd Mayo. We saw

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Speaker 4: some snippets of Drake may just prior to this, so

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Speaker 4: everybody's out there full from what we're told, everyone's here.

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Speaker 4: There's no one missing other than if you're on a list.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and we should mention those guys that are, you know,

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Speaker 8: set to open camp. On lists that the team put

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Speaker 8: out last night, four players on PUP, they would be

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Speaker 8: Kendrick Bourne, Cole Strange. No surprises there, Seoni Taki Taki,

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Speaker 8: physical limitations. Also on NFI, Antonio Gibson, so that's one

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Speaker 9: So I don't know if there's anything long term.

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Speaker 8: I didn't see any reports about him this morning, but

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Mayo seemed to indicate we just came Girod Mayo's

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Speaker 7: and he didn't seem too concerned about Antonio Gibson. He

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Speaker 9: That's good. Good to hear, Tamara.

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Speaker 10: I was wondering, you know, we said everyone's here and

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Speaker 10: everyone's in attendance, but when it comes to jude On

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Speaker 4: I see jude On out there, he's got his red

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Speaker 8: He did the same thing he was doing last year,

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Speaker 8: which made me think exactly the way Jamara just indicated.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be hard to tell today because it's exactly

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Speaker 6: They're gonna fifty yard line.

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Speaker 7: But Justina Anderson had to report this morning that Matthew

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Speaker 7: he's a football player, and he actually called it trash

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Speaker 7: what he did last year by holding in. So I'm

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Speaker 4: He's gonna have to take off his shirt and show

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Speaker 4: He's playing catch with the fans as he likes to

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Speaker 6: Maybe happened the whole practice throwing throwing balls to the crowd.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But a lot of guys coming out right now.

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Speaker 4: I see David Andrews, the Captain, Hunter Henry walking out,

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Speaker 5: Over the helmets. I don't know if that's a requirement,

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Speaker 7: It is a requirement in practice to wear them for

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've kind of gotten used to them now. It

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Speaker 10: I was going to say, the first thing I'm looking

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't help it, you can't help but look

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Speaker 6: at that stuff. But i'd say, some of the guys

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Speaker 6: But I just think it's interesting what Evan said that

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Speaker 4: This morning, he during his press conference, he was talking

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Speaker 4: Always from other football sources. Sometimes they're from other businesses.

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Speaker 5: So he takes in information from a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of different ways and and really, you know, he's he's

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Speaker 5: This is his first year, and uh, he's.

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Speaker 6: think he's aware that that right now, and this goes

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Speaker 6: it's just it hasn't gotten hard yet. Like this is

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Speaker 6: We've you know, do have some leftovers on defense that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in terms of just the atmosphere, everything looks great.

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Speaker 5: It's all set up for the fans. Uh, fans are

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Speaker 4: It's It wasn't the mad rush that we've seen during

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Speaker 9: Very disappointed. No running of the jersey.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, listen, I think you know, to

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Speaker 5: We're not there anymore.

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Speaker 10: I would also point to today's weather, Fred, when I

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Speaker 6: there's still I mean, I just think it's a great day.

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Speaker 6: You know, this is the first chance that all the

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Speaker 10: Yeah, but I will say this is an unusual weather

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Speaker 6: I'm cold, but I'm still sweating.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I need to throw would get someone get blankets.

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Speaker 10: I wouldn't say I'm cold bread and I feel like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we might get some rain in about fifteen twenty

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Speaker 6: That's these like waste innovations fieldhouse threads.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, current the waste wind innovation.

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Speaker 7: Lines of talking about. Is today, you know, not really

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Speaker 5: How do we feel about that?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I'm with you, Fred I can stand in your voice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't care for.

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Speaker 8: It, and especially like to me, I kind of like

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Speaker 4: You know, And that's something you know tomorrow you're going

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Speaker 7: It just kind of counterintuitive to me because the whole

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and we'll see, you know, how it all unfolds.

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Speaker 8: Because I think Mike makes a good point. If all

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Speaker 4: But for all we know, they're starting late with pads

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Speaker 4: if we can't get to the red zone. So let's

439
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,399
Speaker 4: let's start from the ground floor. Let's make sure we

440
00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,080
Speaker 4: can get those early downs looking good so that we're

441
00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,520
Speaker 4: in third and manageable and we're not third and long,

442
00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,040
Speaker 4: and we can we can have successful drives.

443
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,879
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not overly concerned where they start. I know

444
00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,760
Speaker 8: that Bill liked to start there because that's the most

445
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,399
Speaker 8: important area on the on the field for both sides

446
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,080
Speaker 8: of the ball. Those are where games are won and lost.

447
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,639
Speaker 8: Is generally who wins in the red zone, and you

448
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 8: need more practice there. I mean, I understand why Bill

449
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,119
Speaker 8: did it that way. You know, it doesn't mean you

450
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,040
Speaker 8: have to do it that no. I mean, I'm sure

451
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,920
Speaker 8: they're gonna have a lot of red zone work before

452
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:48,600
Speaker 8: camp is over.

453
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 4: But again, for a team that is literally starting from

454
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:55,800
Speaker 4: scratch on offense, which this team is, I can understand

455
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 4: if that was the decision.

456
00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,439
Speaker 6: You know it makes sense. Yeah, I'll give you one

457
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,159
Speaker 6: more thing too. Uh the kicker competition. I mean I

458
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,919
Speaker 6: think that's a real competition between Joey Sly and and

459
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 6: Chid Ryland.

460
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 8: Uh.

461
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 6: You know whether or not people want to hear it

462
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:08,160
Speaker 6: or not.

463
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 9: But keep me updated.

464
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 6: Distances. I wrote about it. I'm just teasing you. Already

465
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,159
Speaker 6: got your It was one of my questions, how are

466
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 6: they going to do?

467
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 5: Already write?

468
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 9: Oh no, no, I didn't write that.

469
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,360
Speaker 10: I can tell you from years of watching Joey Sly,

470
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,679
Speaker 10: unless he gets hurt, he's going to.

471
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,440
Speaker 5: Beat him out. Yeah. Oh yeah, tell me tell me that.

472
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 7: I love that.

473
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 5: Tell me.

474
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 10: Like And I'm not just saying that because he went

475
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 10: to Virginia Tech. Excellent kicks.

476
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 9: He's a kicker. I didn't know where he went to.

477
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's excellent.

478
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 6: I mean, if you had to pick somebody off for

479
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 6: those mini campras, he was most He's reliable.

480
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 10: So I'm saying if as long as he doesn't get hurt,

481
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,360
Speaker 10: I could definitely see him winning the job.

482
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,640
Speaker 5: And is Bearinger He's the only punter in camp.

483
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,360
Speaker 6: Slash golfer sash golfer, so is he.

484
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 5: Is that a lock, or do you think they might

485
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 5: bring somebody in later.

486
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 7: Or he had a good rooking season.

487
00:20:58,840 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 5: He was fine.

488
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 8: Okay, I think he had the most punts found inside

489
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 8: the twenty. Now that's a I was gonna receiving step

490
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 8: because he also more than everybody else. But he Yeah,

491
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 8: I thought he had a pretty pretty good rookie season.

492
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 9: I agree with Evan.

493
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 7: So we have perfect attendance unless I'm obviously the five

494
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 7: guys that Paul mentioned off the top that are on

495
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 7: the list or not here. But everybody that is supposed

496
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 7: to be here is here, including god Scha is here,

497
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 7: and Judon's here. Judon put on a jersey.

498
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 5: Fred Okay, there you go there.

499
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's his uh, his mo o. He always

500
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 8: comes out with his jersey, usually in his helmet.

501
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 7: Yeah.

502
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 8: But yeah, I'm still I'm with Tamara. I'm still gonna

503
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 8: sort of keep my eye out when they do some

504
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,400
Speaker 8: some of the drills. Seven on sevens, eleven on eleven's

505
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 8: whatever if is he going to.

506
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 5: Be in there?

507
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 9: And the spring he wasn't.

508
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 6: Also, two kickoffs, I mean that's another thing we we

509
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 6: we've been seeing throughout the spring, new kickoff rules, so

510
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 6: you know, Marcus Jones.

511
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 8: Another one you can shot for me, Mike, I got you.

512
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 6: Paul Special Teams, I'll get you on the on the

513
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 6: kickoff too, got that for you.

514
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 7: I'm just fascinated to see what kind of scheming they

515
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 7: do on kickoffs in terms of the blocking schemes and

516
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 7: stuff like that. That's interesting.

517
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 5: We can't report on it.

518
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 7: It's a little different than a normal kickoff where we've

519
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 7: seen it five million times over the course of our lives.

520
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 7: This is gonna be unique. There's different strategies in different

521
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 7: ways that you can go about blocking it up and returning.

522
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 7: So it's gonna be interesting to see what they pull out.

523
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 6: Interesting here they're doing the walk backwards very slowly drill yeah,

524
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 6: which I guess is like maybe I don't tear your achilles.

525
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 6: Nobody tear their achilles today.

526
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 8: That's a be careful you never know who's around.

527
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 6: Just back up slowly.

528
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 4: Looks like Brian McDonough is leading this. Brian mcdonno is

529
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 4: a guy who's worked with players for a long time,

530
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 4: but privately he owns a training facility in Foxborough and

531
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 4: a lot of guys went to him in the off

532
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 4: season and used to train with him. And he's always

533
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 4: been around, but now he's officially part of the staff

534
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 4: after all these years, so.

535
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 5: He's he's not from dropping the knowledge. Ugh, yeah, he's

536
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 5: not new to the team.

537
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 4: He's been around the Patriots for for i'd say fifteen

538
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 4: sixteen years.

539
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 6: How long was Moses here? I mean, Moses.

540
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,719
Speaker 5: Was quite a long time. Yeah.

541
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 6: So, I mean a lot of everybody, you know, obviously

542
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 6: knows the coaching changes, but you know some of the

543
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 6: changes on the training staff. You're seeing a little bit

544
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 6: of you know, tweaks to the warm up stuff. I'm

545
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 6: sure that the off season program was probably a little

546
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 6: bit different than what it's been in the past. So

547
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 6: it's just such a ground zero kind of day here today.

548
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 6: I mean, you just it's it's all starts right here.

549
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 5: It all starts right here.

550
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 4: Any any visitors guests that we can see, you know,

551
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 4: teams with their coaches or anything like that, didn't see him.

552
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 6: Remember down there, Rob Nikovitch did get to go before

553
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 6: Tamara and I speaking of the crowd, talk a little

554
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 6: bit about ten year anniversary of Super Bowl forty nine. Yeah,

555
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 6: and of course Rob Nikovitch with a big sack there

556
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter on third down to set up

557
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 6: the game winning I guess it was. Yeah, the game

558
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 6: end up being the game winning drive before all the

559
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 6: dramatics with Malcolm Butler. But he's the only one I've

560
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 6: seen so far, unless you want to count Scott Zolacitt

561
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 6: right over there.

562
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 9: That's I don't now, not a celebrity.

563
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 6: Not a celebrity.

564
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 9: Oh sorry, Joe.

565
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,239
Speaker 8: So I was just telling it like, it is, uh

566
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 8: so good news to see the team pretty healthy to

567
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 8: start now. I'm ninety nine percent sure that I said

568
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 8: the same exact thing last year, and then all of

569
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 8: a sudden, you know, he gone.

570
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 9: I think it was like the.

571
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 8: Day one or two, maybe day two or three, Cold

572
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 8: Strange went down with an injury that I think really impacted.

573
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 9: His whole season.

574
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 8: So yeah, these are the kinds of things. You know,

575
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 8: it's good to start off healthy, but it's far more important.

576
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 5: We know there will be injuries. Yeah, there will be injuries.

577
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 10: And I mean, well, do you think the health of

578
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 10: this team is why he's being so cautious with these practices?

579
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 5: No, I don't know. I don't.

580
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 6: I mean, I think at a certain point you just

581
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 6: have to go, but I don't know.

582
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just realized that this is different. You have

583
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 4: defense on one side, offense on the other side during stretching,

584
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 4: which usually they were all together on the same field,

585
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 4: So this is a little bit different. McDonald's lee one side,

586
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 4: and a Grodd's brother I believe is Deron Mayo is

587
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 4: leading the other side the offense, so that is different.

588
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 4: I don't know why, what the philosophy is behind that,

589
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 4: but I'm sure there's always some reason why they decided.

590
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:35,239
Speaker 5: To do that.

591
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 6: I two, Fred, I just take a second to highlight

592
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 6: a couple of position groups where it feels like the

593
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 6: depth is kind of tenuous. I mean, certainly with Jude On,

594
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 6: I mean he kind of stands alone as an all

595
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 6: around linebacker. I mean Paul mentioned Antonio Gibson. I mean

596
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 6: you're putting a lot on Antonio Gibson and Remandro Stevenson

597
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 6: right now. And if I mean, if even one of

598
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 6: those guys goes down, it's immediately a concern.

599
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 5: So Paul's not concerned. He can always get another guy

600
00:25:59,560 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 5: off this.

601
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 8: The fact that you can always get another guy off

602
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 8: the street is valid. But they haven't gotten another guy

603
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 8: off the street, and I think they've had opportunities. I

604
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 8: would say that another position. I would throw in there

605
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 8: for Mike his corner. And we've talked a lot about

606
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 8: Gilmore and he's still available.

607
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 6: You know. Like I thought a guy like.

608
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 8: Cam Akers might make some sense for the Patriots. Unfortunately

609
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 8: someone else thought the same thing, and he recently signed.

610
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 8: I think, or he's about to sign. I think with Houston,

611
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 8: maybe Latavious Murray, something like that. I think they had

612
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 8: who's the kid from Cleveland Felton? Yeah, Patrick Felton a

613
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 8: very similar player to Antonio Gibson. Obviously has some familiarity

614
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 8: with the Brown system and Alex Van Pelt, so you know,

615
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 8: I think he was in for a workout, Yester.

616
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

617
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 7: Dimitric Felton is basically a carbon copy of Antonio Gibson.

618
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 7: I believe he played receiver in college just the same

619
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 7: as Gibson did, and is a pass catching back. He's,

620
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 7: you know, a speedback, pass catching back. But we've been

621
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 7: saying running back is an area that.

622
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 4: I mean, you have to have running back, but no,

623
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 4: they don't have a lot of They have about six

624
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 4: and can't.

625
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, but they have two running backs that have done

626
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 7: anything in the NFL, right, and both those guys are

627
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 7: are gonna be big parts, and we should mention you know,

628
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 7: non football injury signifies that Antonio Gibson was injured away

629
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 7: from the facility. Uh you know, usually it's like a

630
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 7: training injury or something along those lines. That it wasn't

631
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 7: in a practice, it wasn't in an organized team activity.

632
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 7: So that's why he goes on n FI instead of

633
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 7: on PUP. But like I said, Girodmeyo didn't seem super

634
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 7: worried about it as a long term thing. But that aside,

635
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 7: even if Antonio Gibson's back here, RB three is is

636
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 7: an area of this team that is very very thin.

637
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 7: I mean they just is Kevin Harris is a Jamichael Hasty.

638
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 7: Two guys that have really just not played a whole

639
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 7: lot of offense right occreers.

640
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 8: In the NFL, you know, and maybe you know that

641
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 8: they really like the two undrafted free agents or one

642
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 8: of the two you know, you know with with Fenwick

643
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 8: and Jennings.

644
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 5: So what does that.

645
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 6: Paul I was waiting to Sissy if I needed to

646
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 6: help you out.

647
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: So with a Van Pelt offense, according to Evan, it

648
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,959
Speaker 4: is it maybe leans a little more run heavy than

649
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 4: other offenses.

650
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 5: What are we surmising from.

651
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 6: This, that's a good question, Fred. I mean, I think

652
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 6: the tackle gets all the well, they kind of ignored

653
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 6: that position that gets all the attention, but you know,

654
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 6: it just it feels like they're one running back kind

655
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 6: of short. I mean, you know, I think Evan and

656
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 6: I when we did the draft, like we would both

657
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 6: talk a lot about, you know, one of these to

658
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 6: be crazy, like a Day three guy, but you know,

659
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 6: somebody who has a little bit of a pedigree or promises.

660
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 5: Bring Sony Michelle out retirement.

661
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 8: But I would say last year in Cleveland, you know,

662
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 8: it was kind of a similar situation with Nick Chubb.

663
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 8: And you know they have a lot of the eggs

664
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 8: in the Nick Chubb basket, right, It's it's all him.

665
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 9: He went down. Kareem Hunt is there, but he's more

666
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 9: of the Gibson kind of guy for them, you know.

667
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 8: And then they started rotating some guys through old friend

668
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 8: Pierre Strong. Oh yeah, actually got a little run and

669
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 8: I think was it. Ford played a little bit for

670
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 8: them last year for the Browns, but similar kind of situation.

671
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 8: Not necessarily a stable of proven backs behind Nick Chubb.

672
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 8: Right in Kareem Hunt, they had two guys that they

673
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 8: probably felt pretty good about I think Alex van Pelt

674
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 8: probably feels pretty good about Stevenson and Gibson. Yeah, so

675
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 8: it's probably not all that different.

676
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 6: Now, and they if those two guys stay healthy, I

677
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 6: think it's a pretty pretty good one two punch. But

678
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 6: I you know, I go back to and again things

679
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 6: have changed, so philosophies have shifted, I'm sure, but it

680
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 6: always felt like you had four backs that you at

681
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 6: least had played a little bit or had some promise,

682
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 6: or or rookies. And I mean, maybe we're ignoring Kevin

683
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 6: Harris too. Maybe they think a little higher of him

684
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 6: than than we've seen so far. I mean, he was

685
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 6: he was okay last year when he finally got a

686
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 6: chance when but again there's just such a big difference

687
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 6: between Roland Remandre out there and supplementing him with Gibson.

688
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 4: It's nified non football injury too. We have any idea

689
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 4: what it is.

690
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 6: No reports yet on that, but I mean, as Evan said,

691
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 6: you know, probably some kind of training injury. He was

692
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 6: here this spring, heavily involved, no issues.

693
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 4: So if they do bring somebody in, maybe that tells

694
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 4: us that it's a little more serious than we know.

695
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 8: I didn't think he did much in the spring, and

696
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 8: then certainly the practices that I was here.

697
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 9: I don't know if that was related to this. No,

698
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 9: he seemed healthy in the spring, he was.

699
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 8: Definitely and he was out there in uniform yeah, yeah,

700
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 8: I mean in his shirt and helmet.

701
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 7: Yeah. So Deshaun Fenwick is the UDFA running back that

702
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 7: I would look at that some people were pretty high

703
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 7: on as a late, you know, day three type of

704
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 7: guy in the draft ends up going undrafted. But Terrell

705
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 7: Jennings is their other UDFA there, and he's also on

706
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 7: pup to start camp, so he's not out here right now.

707
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 7: But Deshaun Fenwick, I spent a lot of time in

708
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 7: college USC, Oregon State, bounced around.

709
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 8: I think he spent six years in college. Fenwick one

710
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 8: of those guys. He was pretty good at Oregon State.

711
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, but he's average over five yards of carry in

712
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 7: college and had some flash at Oregon State the last

713
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 7: couple of years for sure. So he could be somebody

714
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 7: that could make a push here. But I think we're

715
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 7: all in the same boat.

716
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 5: With the craft is on the field.

717
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 6: To your point of it, I mean, it's it's hard

718
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 6: to really glean much about running backs until you probably

719
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 6: get into preseason games, but at the very least getting

720
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 6: to pads and for such a critical part of this offense,

721
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 6: you know, it will be a little bit frustrating not

722
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 6: to get a real sense of those, you know, lower

723
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 6: end guys. We know what Remondre can do. There's just

724
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 6: some opportunity exists there.

725
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 7: There's just so much emphasis on the system, it feels

726
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 7: like to me. And you know, as we know about

727
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 7: running backs with the data, it suggests that you can

728
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 7: basically plug in a lot of different running backs and

729
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 7: probably get relatively the same production if you're blocking it

730
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 7: well and it's sequenced together properly. And there's a lot

731
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 7: right now, and I think it was Tom Curns on

732
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 7: one of Paul's shows said that Alex van Pelt is

733
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 7: the most important person in the building right now. And

734
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 7: that's exactly how it feels to me, because if his

735
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 7: system doesn't work, if it doesn't take hold, they're going

736
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 7: to be swimming upstream in a lot of different areas

737
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 7: on offense, as we know already from a personnel standpoint,

738
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 7: and there's just so much riding on outside zone bootleg

739
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 7: actions like all of this just kind of coming together

740
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 7: and I think running backs another place where that's the case,

741
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 7: where they're just hoping that okay, well somebody gets hurt,

742
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 7: that Kevin Harris will just take on a bigger role

743
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 7: and then they'll still be productive. And I think that's

744
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 7: a lot to ask.

745
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 5: I think running backs, you know who I don't see, okay,

746
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 5: I feel like.

747
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 10: He's always lurking around. Also, I feel like it's hard

748
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 10: to talk about the running packs without talking about the

749
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 10: offensive line because it all starts with them, and unfortunately,

750
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 10: like you've seen for Remandre and even Zeke last year

751
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 10: that it was tough for them to get anything going

752
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 10: when there wasn't anywhere to go because the offensive line

753
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 10: was struggling.

754
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 4: Well, that might change this year, Tamara, because of the style.

755
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 4: It's more of like, you know, by the time the

756
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 4: balls in the running backs hands, the lines already on

757
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: the move, you know, according to Evan, that's the way

758
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 4: this offense runs.

759
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 5: So there might be a little bit more room.

760
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 4: But you're right, last year there was so much contact

761
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: behind the line of scrimmage they couldn't get their momentum going.

762
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, not everybody's Nick Chubb, So I'm not

763
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 7: trying to say that the Browns offense was the same

764
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 7: with and without Nick Chubb. But statistically the running backs

765
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 7: that replaced Nick Chubb over the years did well in

766
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 7: Cleveland to the point where it was productive in the

767
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 7: running game. Was it yards after contact like crazy like

768
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,719
Speaker 7: Nick Chubb can produce. No, But they were still averaging,

769
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 7: you know, top ten in the league and yards per

770
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 7: carrying things like that because their system and their scheme

771
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 7: and they're blocking and all that kind of stuff is

772
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 7: sound and it works and that's what they would do.

773
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 10: Evan, do you think this offensive line here has a

774
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 10: chance to do what the Browns offensive line was doing.

775
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 7: They're not as talented as I mean, I have major

776
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 7: concerns about scheme fit for a lot of these alignement,

777
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 7: about what they're trying to do. I mean, if Mike

778
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 7: on Wendy's playing tackle at three hundred and forty pounds

779
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 7: and then you're trying to get him out on the

780
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 7: edge to try to block, you know, outside zone, it's

781
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 7: just it's tenuous. It's tenuous if they're going to have

782
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 7: the personnel to run that kind of system.

783
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 5: To see the line there on your screen, whether it's

784
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 5: your phone or your smart TV, and you see the

785
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 5: quarterbacks in the other box warming up.

786
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 10: I wasn't on the show with you guys yesterday after

787
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 10: Mayo spoke, But how did you feel, guys, just after

788
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 10: hearing girod Mayo talk. Do you feel like he's confident

789
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 10: in what they have or because he was asked about

790
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 10: like Okay, who's gonna who's going to play on the

791
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 10: west side?

792
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 5: Think?

793
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 6: I mean, I think he's realistic. I mean it's he's

794
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 6: definitely a different coach than Bill was. And I mean

795
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 6: we said, you know, all along we're talking about coaches

796
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 6: that there's different ways to do it, and this is

797
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 6: certainly going to be different. I mean, you know, personally,

798
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 6: I kind of had this experience in my sports playing career.

799
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 6: I played for coaches like Bill, I played for coaches

800
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,959
Speaker 6: like Mayo, and for me personally, I got my best

801
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 6: performance out of coaches like Mayo. So we'll see.

802
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure they're played to be coddled.

803
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

804
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 9: They were a sensitive artist type, right right, right?

805
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,959
Speaker 6: No, no screaming at me. I mean, you know, Fred

806
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 6: and I just got yelled at all the time. Oh

807
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 6: yeah no, and that certainly, you know was my case

808
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 6: in college. But you know, I'm sure that there are

809
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 6: guys on this team that prefer that are going to

810
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 6: prefer Bill's style and the hard ass style, and you

811
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 6: know that certainly works for certain guys. But I just

812
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 6: think Mayo is fully cognizant that this all has to

813
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 6: come together. And as I said starting the recap yesterday,

814
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 6: it's about winning games. Like that they understand it, like

815
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 6: none of this matters if they win games. All the

816
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 6: stuff we talk about, you win games, a lot of

817
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 6: that stuff fault and if you lose, everything gets magnified.

818
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 6: I think he's aware.

819
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 5: Well, it's funny, you know. Yes, Bill was the coach

820
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 5: over the last four years, but during the last four

821
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 5: years it was Mac Jones who said I want to

822
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 5: be coached harder. Now.

823
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 4: I don't know if he was talking about Bill, I

824
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 4: doubt it, but he certainly was talking, probably about Patricia

825
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 4: at the time that he wanted hard coaching according to him.

826
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 6: I think it has a little bit of a different

827
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 6: meaning to me now in retrospect, knowing, you know, kind

828
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 6: of what we know, what they were going through, and

829
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 6: it wasn't I mean now I kind of look at

830
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 6: it not as I want them to be harder on me.

831
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 6: I want it's more. I want them to know what

832
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 6: they're doing and to really you know, to turn the

833
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 6: screws to get it to where we need it to be,

834
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 6: you know, not yell at me when I make mistakes.

835
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 5: More.

836
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 6: There was just a lut going on the last couple

837
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 6: of years, and I mean it's interesting because it feels

838
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 6: like year three where we're like, all right, what's this

839
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 6: offense going to look like? For so long you guys

840
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 6: watch training camp Josh McDaniels, Tom Brady, the offense is

841
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 6: the offense. We know exactly what we're going to get.

842
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 6: And now we're third year in a row, new offense,

843
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 6: and it's it's probably changed right now more than it

844
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 6: has the last two years.

845
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 4: You know, this is going to be the most I

846
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 4: can't emphasize enough that this offense is starting from scratch.

847
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I just think Evan's point about, you know,

848
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 6: where are they all going to meet? Like if the

849
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 6: offensive line can't do what Alex van Pelt wants them

850
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 6: to do, he said, I'm not going to try to,

851
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 6: you know, jam people into this scheme. So what does

852
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 6: it become then, you know, do they do they start

853
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 6: going more to the power and the gap schemes that

854
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 6: fit their personnel a little bit better. You know, do

855
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 6: they get away from more wide zone? Does that affect

856
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 6: you know, it's like if you pull a string a

857
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 6: thread out of this offense and it's like, well, we're

858
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 6: not we'rening my zone. We can't really do the bootlegs now.

859
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden, you know, you're kind

860
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 6: of left with just a skeleton of your playbook, and

861
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 6: you know, maybe maybe it'll be a good thing. Maybe

862
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 6: it'll force Alex van Pelt to be innovative and you know,

863
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 6: have to have to accommodate his players, to accommodate his

864
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 6: system to the players. But that's what we're gonna be

865
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 6: watching here. We've seen two training camps where the offense

866
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 6: has struggled and the players look miserable after the practice

867
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 6: and they have full periods where there's one completion and

868
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 6: you're like, this is a train wreck. I just I

869
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 6: just hope to God that it doesn't exist.

870
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 5: The most critical joint practice we've seen in a number

871
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 5: of years, where.

872
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 6: I think it'd be the most interesting.

873
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 5: You know, where you really need it to see what

874
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 5: what the status check is of the team, because.

875
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 6: Even last year in in Green Bay, and I think,

876
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 6: you know, I was more with the defense, seven was

877
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 6: the offense. But I think he'd tell you that it

878
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 6: might have been a little bit of fool's goal. Even

879
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 6: in that in that joint practice, some of the things

880
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 6: you saw where it felt like they were turning the

881
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 6: corner and you know, making some plays out there, it

882
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 6: never really materialized. And not even throw the Raiders the

883
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 6: year before, which I went back and looked at my

884
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 6: notes at that joint practice and they were really terrible

885
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 6: both days, but the end of practice eleven on eleven

886
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 6: two minute drill competitive portions, the Patriots I think scored

887
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 6: touchdowns on all their final drives of that day, which

888
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 6: again it was kind of man, I think they're terrible,

889
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 6: but wow, that was, you know, a good drive and

890
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 6: they're psyched and they put one in the end zone.

891
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 6: And maybe it's not as bad as we think it is.

892
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 6: It was as bad as we thought, Yeah it was.

893
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 7: It's so funny to look back now in hindsight those

894
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 7: Green Bay joined practices and how good Green Bay ended

895
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 7: up being and how bad the Patriots ended up being,

896
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 7: because you watch those practices in Green Bay and it

897
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 7: felt even like it felt like green The Patriots kind

898
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 7: of won the first day, Green Bay kind of won

899
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 7: the second day. But it was a back and forth competition,

900
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 7: and the Packers ended up going all the way to

901
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 7: the NFC Championship game. In the Patriots win four games and.

902
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 8: They went they went to the divisional round and they

903
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 8: finished five hundred. They're ten and ten on the season,

904
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 8: And to me, it's kind of illustrated how close it

905
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 8: can be, because I agree with Evan, I don't think

906
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 8: you know, based on what you guys reported from those practices,

907
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 8: I didn't think there was that much of a difference.

908
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 8: It's like you win a couple of games down the

909
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 8: stretch and you sneak in the playoffs at nine and eight.

910
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 8: You're playing a little bit better down the stretch. Jordan

911
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 8: Love was really bad for three quarters of the season.

912
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 8: He was great at the end, to the point now

913
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 8: people were talking about him. He might become the highest

914
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 8: paid player of football, you.

915
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 6: Know, within a week.

916
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 8: So it to me, it's just kind of like how

917
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 8: close good and bad is now?

918
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 9: Great and bad is a big gap.

919
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 8: Like to me, there's a big gap between San Francisco

920
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 8: and Kansas City, and you know, those teams and.

921
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 9: Where the Patriots were a last ship.

922
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 8: But I don't think there's a big gap between middle

923
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 8: of the pack Green Bay and the Patriots, and I

924
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 8: think the Patriots could get there with you know, some

925
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 8: development from their young quarterback, just like Jordan Loved it.

926
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 7: I mean, Jordan Love did not tear up those practices

927
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 7: against the Patriots by any means. He had the flashes

928
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 7: of the arm, talent and things like that, but it

929
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 7: wasn't anything crazy where we came away from Deuce and

930
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 7: I came away from those practices. And that's something that

931
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 7: I'm reminding myself just with this team and with Drake

932
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 7: May and everything. Is a lot of this stuff that

933
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 7: happens in training camp, just it doesn't end up going

934
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 7: that way during the season, as much as we love

935
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 7: covering it.

936
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 10: And I feel c. J. Stroud is another great example.

937
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 10: If you watched him in the preseason and thought that

938
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 10: he was going to be where he was at the

939
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 10: end of the season, like props were you for having

940
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 10: that ability to envision that. But I was not seeing that.

941
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 7: When I saw him.

942
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 9: No, certainly not. And I should correct myself.

943
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 8: Ten and nine, yeah, because they were nine and eight

944
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 8: and they won and one of the player.

945
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 7: Yes, I should correct my self that they lost in

946
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 7: the Niners.

947
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 5: Speaking of Shroud, he was recently on a podcast or

948
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 5: something and said that he thought Drake May is the

949
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 5: most pro ready quarterback of the rookie class.

950
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought.

951
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 7: What was great about the comments that he made too,

952
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 7: if you're a Patriots fan wanted to be optimistic, was

953
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 7: he was talking about Drake May's poise in the pocket

954
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 7: and his ability to move in the pocket. And he

955
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 7: said that when he first started in the NFL, CJ.

956
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 7: Stroud he was moving around too much and causing pressure

957
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 7: where there wasn't pressure and things like that. And he

958
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 7: said that he watched Drake May at North Carolina. He's

959
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 7: composed and calm and poised with his movement and only

960
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 7: moving when he absolutely had to and scrambling when he

961
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 7: absolutely had to. So those were some of the things

962
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 7: that you saw in the draft that made you excited.

963
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 7: And you talk about how bad the offensive line is

964
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 7: to some people, But if he can handle the conditions

965
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 7: like he did at North Carolina the same way in

966
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 7: the pros, which I get is a step up. But

967
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 7: if he can do the same type of thing, then

968
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 7: maybe the line isn't as bad because they have a

969
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 7: quarter that can make up for it.

970
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 10: I also want to say too that when I think

971
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 10: of when I look at the Stroud situation, it gives

972
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 10: me the ability to be more patient because it's like,

973
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 10: even if May comes out and he's plays like c. J.

974
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 10: Stroud did and he's preseason games, that's not mean it's

975
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 10: the end all be all and you should just sit

976
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 10: him and not play him the whole season. Like it's

977
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 10: not gonna just blow up his whole season if he

978
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 10: plays bad in the preseason. So I think we need

979
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 10: to have patients regardless of what we see. sALS training hide.

980
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 4: You can email the show web radio at Patriots dot Com.

981
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 4: Is the email address in Andre for New Jersey does so.

982
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 4: He says, if Bill was the coach for this season,

983
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 4: will Judon and Gotcha get an extension by now? And

984
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 4: would we be seeing a rookie left tackle out there

985
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:41,959
Speaker 4: instead of May?

986
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 5: What do he mean?

987
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 6: See some good questions there? Because Bill obviously loves the

988
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 6: defense he gave He's given what Gotshaw two contracts. Ye,

989
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 6: I don't think you would have given him another way? Yeah,

990
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 6: it might be a little asking, a little much but

991
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 6: I do wonder on Judah because he's an outside linebacker,

992
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 6: and so I hold in last year.

993
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't think that they would have given him

994
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 8: an extension, But I also don't think the other guys,

995
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 8: all of them. Some of them might have, but all

996
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 8: of those other guys wouldn't have gotten him, and I

997
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 8: think that's what's led to this.

998
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I don't think Bourne would have. I mean,

999
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 6: I would say probably most of them. I mean, it's

1000
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 6: easy to make a case for just about all those.

1001
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 6: Hunter Henry is one that I just there's nobody on

1002
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 6: the market.

1003
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 8: Henry would be would would have been resigned in my opinion, Yeah,

1004
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 8: me too. I don't think Stevenson would have gotten his.

1005
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 8: I'm talking about extensions now. Stevenson I don't think would

1006
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 8: have gotten it. Barmore might have. Barber might have gotten.

1007
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 8: You're getting a year ahead of the detach and especially

1008
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 8: like it didn't like that deal was very team friend.

1009
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 6: But would Bill had gotten ahead of it? And that's

1010
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 6: the thing that it kind of fallen generally in recent

1011
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 6: years though, I mean, guys were getting to their contract.

1012
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 8: And this gets back to you a thing that you

1013
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 8: always say, Mike. In recent years he hasn't had guys

1014
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 8: that would have been worthy of that right, you know,

1015
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 8: because the draft has been so.

1016
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 7: But I also feel like he's missed the boat on

1017
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 7: some of it to an extent where in the past

1018
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 7: he would be ready to replace that guy with the

1019
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 7: next player and hasn't drafted as well. Kyle Duggar to me,

1020
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 7: would have been here on the franchise tag for this year,

1021
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 7: especially after the season we saw from map Who. I

1022
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 7: just don't think map Who's ready to be a starting

1023
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 7: safety in the league. So maybe Kyle Duger is here

1024
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 7: for one more year on the tag, but I don't

1025
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 7: think his plan was to give Kyle Dugger a multi year.

1026
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 4: Spaking of Bill, Andre also says he thought it was

1027
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 4: idiotic for Kyle Shanahan to offer Belichick a job on

1028
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 4: the coaching staff, knowing he just wants to be a

1029
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 4: head coach.

1030
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 5: I didn't think it was idiotic.

1031
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 9: I don't think it's I mean, Kyle.

1032
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 5: The Shanahans have a history with Bill.

1033
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 4: Mike Shanahan came to Bill's defense during Spygate, and Bill

1034
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 4: came to Mike Shanahan's defense when he didn't have a

1035
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 4: job and said, I can't believe Mike Shanahan doesn't have

1036
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 4: a job in the NFL. Kyle Shanahan just said the

1037
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 4: same thing about Bill, So it makes sense. And listen,

1038
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 4: if I was Kyle Shanahan and Bill wanted to be

1039
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 4: on my staff, would do whatever. Come on coming on

1040
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 4: once a week, I'll build you a house.

1041
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 6: Tell me what you see, give what are your points

1042
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 6: of emphasis for this game? We got the rest, right.

1043
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 7: That was how it was presented from Kyle Shanahan's perspective too,

1044
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 7: was he literally called Bill and said whatever you want.

1045
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 7: You can do whatever you want, Like, we'll pay you

1046
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 7: to do whatever you want to do. Whether it's defensive coordinator,

1047
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 7: it's just an advisor role, like whatever it is, there's

1048
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 7: a job for you here.

1049
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1050
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 8: I like to take shots at Evans boy Shannahan, but

1051
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 8: I think it would have been negligent. Yeah, given his

1052
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 8: relationship with Belichick, right, Like, I'm not just telling you

1053
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 8: every guy in the league should have called Bill Belichick

1054
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 8: and said, would you like to be a consultant. The

1055
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 8: Shannahans are different. I think it would have been negligent

1056
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 8: for him not to at least ask. I mean, I'm

1057
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 8: sure Mike Vrabel wishes he was a head coach. Yeah,

1058
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 8: he considers himself a head coach. He took a consultant job, yeah,

1059
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 8: with Cleveland. And I know that Belichick is not Rabele.

1060
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 8: I'm not equating the two, but I'm just saying, you

1061
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 8: don't know if you don't ask. And he has a

1062
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 8: great relationship with Belichick.

1063
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. I mean you see coaches do that all

1064
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 5: the time. I mean.

1065
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 4: Dom Capers did it with us. Yeah, Like you know,

1066
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 4: he wanted to be a head coach or a DC,

1067
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 4: but he took a job with us just to stay

1068
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 4: in the game, you know, to stay to stay relevant.

1069
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 4: It happens all the time now. Like you said, Paul

1070
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 4: Bill's a whole different thing.

1071
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I completely acknowledge that that Bill's you know,

1072
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 8: a level of accomplishment, you know, dwarfs anybody else's right.

1073
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 5: But no, I don't think it was idiotic at all.

1074
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 5: I think it was why not ask? Why not ask?

1075
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 5: All right?

1076
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 4: So we see UH offense on one side, defense on

1077
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 4: the other. It's still kind of going through you know,

1078
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 4: unit drills i'd call it.

1079
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, still positionals ju Ju and Osborne leading things off

1080
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 6: for the receivers. I I don't know, maybe I'm just

1081
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 6: I'm an overly optimist. I don't. I just like watching

1082
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 6: Javon Baker. I just I'm intrigued by him. I know

1083
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 6: he's just running warm ups, but the way he moves

1084
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 6: it's just a little bit different to me. I really, we.

1085
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 5: Didn't and it got to look like the thumb is

1086
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 5: bothering him at all. No, it doesn't seem like.

1087
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 6: It seems like he's okay healthy. I mean, we saw

1088
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 6: a little bit of him in the spring and not

1089
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 6: much in competitive team portions. He didn't really, but you know,

1090
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 6: it's just when you look at this receiving core and

1091
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 6: you know what they need, it's hard not to look

1092
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 6: at the only guy you don't really have any sense

1093
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 6: of yet be like, maybe he's the one. But I

1094
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 6: just continue to think he has a little bit of

1095
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 6: spring in his step that the other guys don't quite have.

1096
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 6: So we'll see at that translate. I could be totally wrong,

1097
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 6: But you just keep.

1098
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 7: Hearing with him about keeping him on the tracks, like

1099
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 7: can they keep the train on the tracks with him

1100
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 7: and keep him on the program. It's not talent, Like

1101
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 7: the talent is not an issue. This guy was committed

1102
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 7: to Alabama, played at Alabama, tore it up at Central Florida.

1103
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 7: Like he's a very talented football player, it's just about

1104
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 7: can you keep him mentally locked in.

1105
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 4: Another observation I've had, and I'm probably reading way too

1106
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 4: much into it, but I just get the sense that

1107
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 4: Brian Belichick feels confident out there. Yeah, like he really

1108
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 4: knows what he's doing. He feels empowered to really coach

1109
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 4: and not just be out there.

1110
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 10: And I can't imagine how freeing it is to be

1111
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 10: out of the shadows of your brother and dad.

1112
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 5: Well not's some that.

1113
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 4: Plus, I think you know, he's done it long enough

1114
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 4: now where I think you would consider him a veteran

1115
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 4: coach now. And I was watching him earlier, you know,

1116
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 4: talking to some of the younger assistant coaches and telling

1117
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 4: them what he, you know, wants them to do during

1118
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 4: and he just looked confident. Now, again, that could be

1119
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 4: just me reading into it, but I got that sense.

1120
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 6: It's funny.

1121
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 10: But I mean Fred too, I think it could be

1122
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 10: he was injured like the first half of the majority

1123
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 10: of the season, so actually being able to be out

1124
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 10: there walking around and coaching on your two feet, yeah,

1125
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 10: it probably means everything.

1126
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, last year he had that terrible accident, tore up

1127
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 4: his knee and really couldn't get out on the field

1128
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 4: at all.

1129
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, mid season, If that's.

1130
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 6: It's funny, friend, I caught a little and you guys

1131
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 6: can make fun of me, but I always and whenever

1132
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 6: Bill's Football Life is on from two thousand and nine,

1133
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 6: I got I gotta watch it. But the amount I

1134
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 6: was my guy, thanks, But the amount that Brian Belichick

1135
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 6: is in that it didn't really occur to me ever.

1136
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 6: But man, he is by Bill's side through that all

1137
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 6: the time thing, and you realize it's like, no, yeah,

1138
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 6: it's we talk about nepotism all that, but it's like

1139
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 6: this kid has been immersed in NFL football since he

1140
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 6: was like ten years old, just like Bill was, so

1141
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,479
Speaker 6: he should really blossom here. And I just you know, look,

1142
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 6: Bill Belichick is a legend here. I'm sure we'll do

1143
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 6: something for him at some point when he retired, But

1144
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 6: to still have a Belichick in the building, I still

1145
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 6: think that's pretty cool.

1146
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, when when you know Steve was out with the players,

1147
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 5: Brian would be right by Bill's hit with a notepad.

1148
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, and Bill's telling himself to write down and I mean,

1149
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 6: you know what he's been privy to his whole life.

1150
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 6: He knows exactly how his dad sees the game. And

1151
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 6: you know, now as a young coach, he's really I mean,

1152
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 6: I think it's just you get a chance to spread

1153
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 6: your wings. You're out of the shadows, as as Van

1154
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 6: Tamara said, and you know, being able to really become yourself.

1155
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 6: I know he just had a baby too, so it's

1156
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 6: you know, it's it's all coming together for him and

1157
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 6: I'm glad he's here still. Ye all right, Well with

1158
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 6: Bryl Peppers, there's my guy who just you know, full

1159
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 6: of energy always, you know, standing on the field, and

1160
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 6: you know, hey, we all got to have our favorites, right.

1161
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 4: Caleb writes in from Knoxville. He says it's great to

1162
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 4: see the first ever volunteer get a gig at head

1163
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 4: coach in the NFL. Talking about Gerard Mayo, of course,

1164
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 4: I will follow that up with saying I don't have

1165
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:29,959
Speaker 4: much faith.

1166
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 5: Frankly, when I think.

1167
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 4: About what the end game looks like with Mayo, I

1168
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 4: can't think of anything outside of him being a bridge

1169
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 4: head coach. My question, what do you think the end

1170
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 4: game for Mayo and Patriots look like, we really believe

1171
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 4: he is going to lead this team to the AFHC

1172
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 4: Championship Game or Super Bowl in the next four or

1173
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 4: five years. Let's be honest. He has never been anything

1174
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 4: more than a linebacker assistant coach.

1175
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, but how many coaches in the NFL can you

1176
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 6: say that about right now? Do you feel confident that

1177
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 6: they have what it takes to be I mean, there's

1178
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 6: what five coaches and they don't just grow on trees

1179
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 6: like so, I don't know. I'm not gonna sit here

1180
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 6: and write what the end of the Jirab Mao era

1181
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 6: is going to look like on day one. Uh, you

1182
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 6: can believe whatever you want. I understand why people might

1183
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 6: not have a lot of faith in him, you know,

1184
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 6: given his experience and you know, maybe his overall kind

1185
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 6: of football knowledge, especially on the offensive side of the

1186
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 6: ball that's so important right now. But I think that

1187
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 6: he's a guy who's been waiting for this chance. Clearly

1188
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 6: the ownership believes in him. It's personally I like the guy.

1189
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 4: But I think things have changed a little bit in

1190
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 4: the NFL, where I think back in the day, it

1191
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 4: was very hard for a first time head coach to

1192
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 4: have success and maybe their first stint, maybe it took

1193
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 4: them a couple of stints.

1194
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 5: But I think you're seeing a lot.

1195
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 4: Of these young guys McVeigh Shanahan, not that Shanahan has

1196
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 4: won a Super Bowl, but have success early on. The

1197
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 4: kid with the Vikings, Uh yeah, I mean they're having

1198
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 4: success at least winning games early on. And Mike McDaniel, Yeah,

1199
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 4: So I don't think it's out of it's it's not

1200
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 4: out of the ordinary anymore for first.

1201
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 5: Time head coaches to have that seat. Those guys have quarterbacks.

1202
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 10: I feel like Dan Campbell is a good example. It's

1203
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 10: like everyone watch Hard Knocks and he's laugh at him

1204
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 10: and you're like, this guy's not gonna be terrible, and

1205
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 10: then look at them now.

1206
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 5: And he's from the defensive side of the ball to

1207
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 5: which is a good si.

1208
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 7: An offensive coach. Dan Campbell played tight end. Why did

1209
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 7: I think he was alignment.

1210
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 6: Because he spits It.

1211
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 7: Looks like but the Lions are such a great example,

1212
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 7: because Frank, I don't think Dan Campbell is a great coach.

1213
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 7: I think he's a great motivator. I don't think he's

1214
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 7: a great coach, but but it is a good leader.

1215
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 7: I said, it is a great motivator, but at the

1216
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 7: same time, their roster now is loaded and that's why

1217
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 7: it comes back. It's Elliott Wolf, like I drave Mayo

1218
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 7: can do what he does, but like it comes down

1219
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 7: to can they get the personnel right? Like, like there

1220
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 7: might win games if they have good personnel.

1221
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 8: To Mike's point, you know, he's you know, how many

1222
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 8: coaches around the league do you feel all that confident?

1223
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 9: And I and I kind of agree with it.

1224
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 8: I think are some of the you know, like McVeigh, Shanahan, Reid, Harball,

1225
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 8: you know.

1226
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 9: I put those guys in.

1227
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 8: Those are guys that I have faith in if I'm

1228
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 8: their fans of their teams. Yeah, but there are a

1229
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 8: lot of really good teams that are Super Bowl contenders

1230
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 8: that I'm not necessarily like Sean McDermott, Like, I think

1231
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 8: Buffalo is really good, but I'm not sure he's a

1232
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 8: great coach. Cincinnati, I'm not sure Zach Taylor is a

1233
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 8: great coach. Yeah, I'm not telling you these guys stink,

1234
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 8: but I don't. I don't put them you know, in

1235
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 8: a in a battle of wits one on one with

1236
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 8: Andy Reid or or Shanahan or or McVeigh. I don't

1237
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 8: think that they're necessarily going to win that battle. In

1238
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 8: Detroit's another great example.

1239
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 10: I think Demiico Ryans too. I think that you could

1240
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 10: have probably written him off early and been like, what's

1241
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 10: he going to do with this Texans team? Like is

1242
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 10: he going to be able to take CJ. Stroud to

1243
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 10: the next level? And I think now, especially with the

1244
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,959
Speaker 10: additions they have of you know, Stefan Diggs, I'm interested

1245
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 10: to see what their offense looks like. But Bobby, Bobby,

1246
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 10: he definitely didn't get hired and you were immediately like

1247
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 10: that that team is going to the super Bowl.

1248
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean Demiko Ryans was a heralded assistant coach

1249
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 7: for many using many cycles, three cycles. Yeah, but all

1250
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,479
Speaker 7: those coaches, you know, it's all about the coordinators too,

1251
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 7: like Bobby Slow, which you know, and of course I'm

1252
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 7: blanking on the guy and in Detroit, but Ben Ben Johnson,

1253
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 7: thank you. Those two guys go to head get head

1254
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 7: coaching jobs in a year whatever. Who knows what those

1255
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 7: offensives are going to look like in this We've seen

1256
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 7: it in Buffalo that they have taken a little bit

1257
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 7: of a step back, subscrying Daviles left. So a big

1258
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 7: part of this to me is not necessarily about is

1259
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 7: it Gerrod Mayo? It's is it Elliot Wolf? Is it

1260
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 7: Alex Van Pelt? Is it Drake may Like? Are these

1261
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 7: the right guys in those positions? Because I think Gerrod

1262
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 7: can lead a football team. I mean he did it

1263
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 7: as a player. I think he can do it as

1264
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 7: a coach. It's it's just a matter of are they

1265
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 7: going to have the other pieces in place to be successful?

1266
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, real quick, just you know, we're getting into

1267
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 6: a little bit of of you know, defense overall. But gotcha,

1268
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 6: Judon both seem to be participating in these Oh that's great.

1269
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 8: That's why there's still position trills stuff.

1270
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 9: They haven't done anything to yether.

1271
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 6: Was this the stuff? They weren't sitting ou lat year

1272
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:03,959
Speaker 6: they woud they would still do.

1273
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 8: This stuff like this isn't the stuff though? No, when

1274
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 8: there's an offense on the other side, they've generally yeah,

1275
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 8: the teams watching, Yeah.

1276
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 4: Tim and Hubbardston right in what's your favorite training camp

1277
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 4: memory of all time? It can be as a fan

1278
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 4: or employee.

1279
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 6: Mike, this has got you written all see now, it's

1280
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 6: like too many, too many things going through my head.

1281
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 6: There's probably a couple and I might come up with

1282
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 6: a better one. But last year at Green Bay, I

1283
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 6: mean just being in Green Bay. And then I think

1284
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 6: I've said before like there are two fields that are

1285
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 6: separated by a fieldhouse in the middle. So we go,

1286
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 6: we're warming up on a field closer to Lambeau. It's

1287
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 6: just the Patriots doing their usual thing. It's kind of quiet,

1288
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 6: and then all right, they're ready for you. And we

1289
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 6: walked through the middle and it was like, all of

1290
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 6: a sudden, you're walking into a pack stadium, like not stadium,

1291
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 6: but you know, past hostiles. The music's blaring, and it's

1292
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 6: just like starting eleven on one end, starting twelve a D,

1293
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 6: starting eleven D on the other end, and they just

1294
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 6: walked right on the field and I was like, this

1295
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 6: is awesome. Like the fans were into it. It was intense,

1296
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 6: like there was no time to take it in. It

1297
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 6: was just like they literally just walked right onto the

1298
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 6: field and started going eleven on eleven. That was just

1299
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 6: really really fun.

1300
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 5: But that's cool.

1301
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 9: That's a good one.

1302
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 5: Yeah. Fine.

1303
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 4: Most of my kind of fondest memories I think come

1304
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 4: from Bryan College.

1305
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 9: Getting your Dell's Lemonades go Fossil.

1306
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 4: You know, just watching Parcels coach guys one on one,

1307
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 4: Lawyer Maloya and ty Law coming over and just sitting

1308
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 4: with us under the tent and just shooting.

1309
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 9: Telling us they don't listen to Eric Mangini.

1310
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, those I think we were a little bit more

1311
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 4: upp close and personal back then.

1312
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 9: Definitely.

1313
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, So those are some of my best memories back

1314
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 4: in Bryan College. I mean here it was always so like,

1315
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 4: you know, don't do this, don't do that, so it

1316
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 4: was different.

1317
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got one more I can share. It was

1318
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 6: right after I got officially got the job, but I

1319
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 6: couldn't start till like, you know, training camp started on

1320
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 6: like Wednesday, but I couldn't officially start till Monday because

1321
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 6: you know, I had to do orientation and stuff. So

1322
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 6: I knew i'd gotten the job and Fred, you know,

1323
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 6: they credentialed me, so like, oh, I'm gonna come watch

1324
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 6: at least. But I remember just sitting on the side

1325
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 6: and looking up and you know, seeing Paul and Eric

1326
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 6: and Fred and Megan, you know, doing this live show

1327
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 6: and knowing I was about to be part of it,

1328
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 6: but I wasn't yet. You know so, and I remember

1329
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 6: looking up at Paul, and Paul I kind of gave

1330
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 6: me a little wave, and I'm like, oh my god,

1331
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 6: he just gave me a little like, you know, I

1332
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 6: just gave you a little hello, Paul, just just a

1333
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 6: little wave. But but that was just cool knowing that, like, man,

1334
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 6: I'm gonna actually be part of this now and and

1335
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 6: you know, be part of that crew. And that was

1336
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 6: that was a really cool moment too.

1337
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 5: We look good, like from the distance sexy.

1338
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 8: I think that's that's my distance, Fred, you know six levels.

1339
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 9: I look well, you.

1340
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 6: Guys were throw away. No, you were still down close

1341
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 6: to the field. That was when you guys were still

1342
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 6: doing it in the in the stand right right at

1343
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 6: the end of the thing, so you were under the

1344
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 6: little tent stuff. So I wasn't so I apologize that

1345
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 6: I'd probably close to you. You still look good.

1346
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 7: I remember my least favorite memory as a fan. I

1347
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 7: was on the hill right here and someone accidentally landed

1348
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 7: on Tom Brady's leg in.

1349
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 8: The middle of practice. Was that a joint practice, I

1350
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 8: don't think so. Maybe it was the knee brace.

1351
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, it landed on his leg and he goes down

1352
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 7: in a heap, like just like he went down and

1353
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 7: Bernard Pollard hit his leg and eighty and they were.

1354
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 9: Playing joint practices against the Bucks that day.

1355
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 7: And I was with some friends and all of us

1356
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 7: are just freaking out right, They're all in and then

1357
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 7: there was a helicopter that was circling above and I

1358
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 7: was like, oh, no, like are they met backing out?

1359
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 6: Like we were all just thought that what year was that?

1360
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 6: Because I remember like reading it online that there was

1361
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 6: like a scare.

1362
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 8: It was definitely a scare. It wasting it. It was

1363
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 8: like a like a half hour that people didn't know

1364
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 8: exactly what.

1365
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it was. I remember seeing through the

1366
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 7: all the trees, you know, all the people, and I

1367
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 7: saw his knee buckle and him go to the ground,

1368
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 7: and I thought for sure that he blew out his

1369
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 7: knee again. And well, thankfully it was just a scare

1370
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 7: and it they had nothing to do with that. But

1371
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 7: I'll never forget that we were all just about to

1372
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 7: you know.

1373
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 8: I think Soldier may have gotten pushed back into Brady.

1374
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah, the details are escaping me. It may

1375
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 8: not have been Tampa. I might be completely misremembering, which

1376
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 8: is common for me. I think it was Tampa, But

1377
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 8: I think it was Tampa. Say I want to say

1378
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 8: Adrian Claiborne.

1379
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 5: I think, okay, that's.

1380
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 6: Who I was like, Oh, that's stupid guy.

1381
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 9: But that was a that was a big thing. It

1382
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 9: was like, oh is he is that?

1383
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 6: Oh?

1384
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 9: Like everybody was worried and.

1385
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 8: He came out with a knee and he was like

1386
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 8: sort of chastised for not having his knee brace on.

1387
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 8: It is that the last time he didn't when I

1388
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 8: think that was the last time he was out there without.

1389
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 9: His brace.

1390
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 4: Sam from Say Catherine's writes in just a quick response

1391
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 4: to Mike stating that coaches don't grow on trees.

1392
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 5: Coaches literally come from coaching trees.

1393
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 6: Come on, that's pretty good, dang it. I walked right

1394
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 6: into that, shout out Bradley Amos.

1395
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 10: With Kendrick born down there.

1396
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I saw cold strange walk out on the

1397
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 7: field of the hoodie as well. So in his family,

1398
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 7: he's doing some mental reps his baby.

1399
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 10: Kendrick's new baby.

1400
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 5: Uh Jake and Australia. Happy first day camp.

1401
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 4: Everyone talks about their surprise cut, but who would you

1402
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 4: pick as your surprise make not including Thornton because no

1403
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 4: p he's done. I'm being biased in mind as I

1404
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 4: really just wanted Aussie to finally make it to the NFL.

1405
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 4: So Jotham Russell. Russell is my wishful surprise. Make that's interesting,

1406
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 4: don't your surprise make?

1407
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1408
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 7: Does Jalen Hawkins at this point qualify.

1409
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 9: I don't think so.

1410
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 7: We saw him too much in the spring probably for

1411
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 7: him to qualify.

1412
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 9: I mean, pick a guy.

1413
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 8: It's one of the running backs. Fenwick was talking to

1414
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 8: him up earlier.

1415
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, them, Caleb, I have a weird surprise, make one.

1416
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 10: But I feel like we're gonna end up keeping all

1417
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 10: four quarterbacks, even if even if two of them ended

1418
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 10: up on the practice squad. Okay, that's my surprise, end

1419
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 10: up keeping all four.

1420
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they don't really have the numbers to.

1421
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 9: Practice practice squad squad?

1422
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, because I know.

1423
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 10: We talked a lot about will someone try to, you know,

1424
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 10: trade for Zappi or will we cut them or you know,

1425
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 10: what are we going to do with him? But it's

1426
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 10: weird them all for sticking.

1427
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 7: Around the way the rules are now at the emergency

1428
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 7: quarterback there's really no incentive to carry three quarterbacks on

1429
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 7: the fifty three unless you feel like all three guys

1430
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 7: can play, because you can now elevate the player from

1431
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 7: the practice squad and make him the emergency quarterback.

1432
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 8: Which is funny that you bring this up, because that

1433
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 8: was the whole thing last year the note day, I

1434
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 8: had my roster projection and and basically it's all about

1435
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 8: to me how they feel about May and are they

1436
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 8: sort of comfortable with him playing whenever in the season

1437
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 8: or do they want to sit him for a little

1438
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 8: amount of time. We've talked about this all off season,

1439
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,439
Speaker 8: So if you don't want him to play, I think

1440
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 8: you need to keep Zapi around right in case something

1441
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 8: happens to percent if you don't want Drake May to play,

1442
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 8: Otherwise they'll probably let go of Zapi. And I think

1443
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 8: Milton goes to the practice squad for exactly the reason

1444
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 8: that that Evan just said, Well, you would have thought

1445
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 8: that I cut Tom Brady in year five. According to it,

1446
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 8: you could put one one detractor on Twitter, and admittedly.

1447
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 6: It was one, So I'm gonna call him out.

1448
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 8: So what like, I just think that he's not necessarily

1449
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 8: paying attention to what I wrote. He just looked at

1450
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 8: it and said, well, that's that's absurd, and I'm like, no,

1451
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 8: I wrote that this is all contingent on Drake May

1452
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 8: and how fast they want him to play, and then

1453
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 8: he's he follows back because someone else had written in saying.

1454
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 6: That he didn't think Milton would make it either, and.

1455
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 8: He attacked that guy saying, there's no way that arm

1456
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 8: gets through waivers and he gets on the practice squad.

1457
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 9: Now, it's like that Arm made it through.

1458
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 8: Five plus rounds of the draft almost since you know what,

1459
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 8: like so why like last year Bailey Zappi made it

1460
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 8: through waivers after playing games as a rookie and winning them,

1461
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 8: and he made it through through waivers. It's not like

1462
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 8: out of the realm of possibility to get a guy through.

1463
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 7: Waivers, right, Yeah, So many of those quarterbacks you have

1464
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 7: to think about when you bring in a quarterback, you're

1465
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 7: starting him from ground zero with your system and you're

1466
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 7: you have to catch him up on the fly and

1467
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 7: there's no practice time to do it. So unless you're

1468
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 7: really sure that this is a either a desperation move

1469
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 7: like last year at times when they bring in Nathan

1470
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 7: Rourke or something like that, and the you know, those

1471
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 7: desperation moves have to are one thing. But other than that,

1472
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 7: you don't see teams pick up quarterbacks too often because

1473
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 7: a period.

1474
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 6: Sorry, but yeah, that is. But it was funny because

1475
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 6: Alex Austin and Marco Wilson, who have been getting you know,

1476
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 6: some looks, they were kind of over with the you know,

1477
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 6: the top defense and then all of a sudden, overcome

1478
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 6: Gonzales and j Jones and like, you guys are on

1479
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 6: the other side.

1480
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 8: So this is like, this is eleven on eleven if

1481
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 8: you got Judon and gotcha both out.

1482
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 4: I just want to let our viewers know that this

1483
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 4: is a portion of practice that we can't have our

1484
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 4: cameras on.

1485
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 5: So that's why you're looking at us and not seeing

1486
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 5: what's on the field.

1487
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 8: Oh I thought it was because you wanted to see me.

1488
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 7: So we have Big Mic at right guard currently not

1489
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 7: at tackle, and Calvin Anderson playing.

1490
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 5: But Judon is out there, so that's a good indication

1491
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 5: that he is going to take part in team drills.

1492
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 6: Godshaw as well.

1493
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, we'll see. I'll see when Pat's come on.

1494
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 8: But this is a good sign. But I think even

1495
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 8: this stuff last year, I think that Judon did not

1496
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 8: take part in Here's a guy to.

1497
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 6: Highlight though, you know, real quick, O'Shane Emmenez who is

1498
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 6: who is over on the right side field with you

1499
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 6: know some of the guys that that you would consider

1500
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 6: the iron of this defense right now, So maybe you

1501
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 6: talk about a surprise guy him Arman Watts over there

1502
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 6: as well, free agent signing from Pittsburgh who we can't

1503
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 6: expect to, you know, replace some of what Lawrence guy.

1504
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 5: Did poke with a catch.

1505
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 7: Marcus Jones is playing the slot right now on defense,

1506
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 7: but it looks like Drake may is he's over here,

1507
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 7: He's gonna watch and then probably rotated with you. Cooleyber said,

1508
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 7: you have Milton and Zappi with the two's on the

1509
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 7: on the other field, so a little mental reps.

1510
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 5: So right now Drake may is leap frog to be

1511
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 5: the backup quarterback.

1512
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 6: Let's mention for del Pettis too, del another guy over

1513
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 6: there getting some looks with Peppers and Duggar.

1514
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, but back to Judon, you know there are a

1515
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 4: lot of players have a philosophy when they're in his

1516
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 4: situation that they can tell me that you know, we'll

1517
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 4: work on it, but until it happens, I don't believe it.

1518
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 4: Maybe this is a sign that Jude On has a

1519
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 4: little bit more faith this year than last year that

1520
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 4: we're gonna get something done, even though it hasn't happened yet.

1521
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1522
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe it's a little past deflection. Ye pick Kyle

1523
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 6: Duggar on the Star.

1524
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 8: A nice played by Jonathan Jones. So yeah, that was

1525
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 8: a bootleg. Godshaw came in car blanched to the middle

1526
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 8: pressure Jacob were said into a rush throw tip interception.

1527
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 5: So start starts unless you're rooting for the offense.

1528
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 6: Or you're being sarcastic hunter Henry, that's what he does.

1529
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 6: That's lit all Yeah, check down him.

1530
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 5: So as promised, they're starting from the up uphill side

1531
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 5: of the field.

1532
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 6: Yeah. So again, I mean you know that we talk

1533
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 6: about how many receivers that they have. I guess it's

1534
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 6: what twelve on the roster right now. And liberal rotation.

1535
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 6: I mean, I think everybody's gonna get a chance and

1536
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 6: a look and right now, just example, Juju Thornton Polk

1537
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 6: in the slot.

1538
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 4: Any do you find it interesting that they went right

1539
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 4: to the pass and they're not going to the running

1540
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 4: game first.

1541
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 7: They ran the ball in the first play.

1542
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, yeah, nick Levertt another name kind of keep

1543
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 6: an eye on new guys.

1544
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 4: Speaking of an offensive lineman, Anthony from Hampton, Virginia says,

1545
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 4: do you guys see that Trent Brown was put in

1546
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 4: the NFI list for the Bengals, will not be there

1547
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 4: for the beginning of camp, will allow Mimes to possibly

1548
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 4: jump him in the starting left town.

1549
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 6: By that, I mean I've heard. I mean, I don't

1550
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 6: know what what trump.

1551
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 4: I know a lot of people said we should have

1552
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 4: kept him as a band aid for a year, but

1553
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 4: this just goes to show you that they made the

1554
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 4: right decision to move on glad to not have to

1555
01:07:59,000 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 4: deal with him anymore.

1556
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 8: I would agree wholeheartedly with that whole sentiment.

1557
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 6: So you have the Drakes in the play action checkdown.

1558
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 7: I'd like to know how the conditioning test went for

1559
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 7: Trent Brown because it doesn't sound like.

1560
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 6: It went well well.

1561
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,759
Speaker 8: NFI is conditioning test, just so you know, oh is it?

1562
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 8: In general terms? It's not an injury. He probably didn't

1563
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 8: pass the test. Now, I don't know what they do

1564
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 8: in Cincinnati, Okay, And I'm not telling you that Antonio

1565
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 8: Gibson failed the conditioning run here because I don't know

1566
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 8: how Gerard Mayo does it either right, this is the

1567
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 8: first time around for him.

1568
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 4: Scott and Virginia writes, and I haven't seen much content

1569
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 4: or discussion on Keon White. What role do you guys

1570
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 4: see him playing this year? I feel if given the opportunity,

1571
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 4: he will bring a whole other dominance to the front.

1572
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 5: Seven.

1573
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, we talked about him a bunch in the spring.

1574
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 7: Is somebody that Gerd Mayo highlighted as a guy that

1575
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 7: impressed him coming into year two. He was out there

1576
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 7: as the edge opposite of judaon on that first couple

1577
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 7: of reps with the one, so they obviously see him all.

1578
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 7: I think for him the biggest thing is is like,

1579
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 7: what what is your dominant trade? Like, what what is

1580
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 7: your spot that you dominated? What are you great at individually?

1581
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 7: Because it's cool to be this versatile chess peas type

1582
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 7: of player, but you got to be able to be

1583
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 7: very good at one thing. I think he's still trying

1584
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,560
Speaker 7: to figure out exactly, you know, where he lives permanently

1585
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 7: in the defense. But he was out there and he's

1586
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 7: He's been out there a ton with the ones here

1587
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 7: so far.

1588
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 4: May had to bring the ball down and actually run

1589
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 4: out of the pocket in that last play.

1590
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 9: It's not that I find interesting.

1591
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 8: They you know, they swapping out personnel and they have

1592
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 8: a second offensive line in there now. But the last

1593
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 8: couple of reps with the four replacement offensive linemen, Big

1594
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 8: Mike stayed out there at right guard.

1595
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 9: He's just out.

1596
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 8: This is the first play he's out now, you know,

1597
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 8: with David Andrews and the rest of those guys that

1598
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 8: were with the first group. So I thought I thought

1599
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 8: that was interesting that he took a few extra reps.

1600
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, draw going nowhere.

1601
01:09:58,120 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 6: It's that Harris.

1602
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 4: I like the way make hints, you know, the exchange

1603
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 4: with the running back impressive.

1604
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 8: Good, good, good observation thread.

1605
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 6: It's like pop Douglas, like you see like a running

1606
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 6: condition experens down the end, unless it's like he's running

1607
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 6: with one of the trainers down there far in. Looks

1608
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:17,799
Speaker 6: pretty ghast.

1609
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 7: Guy's hands on his head. It is not a good sign.

1610
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 6: That's a.

1611
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 5: I wonder why he's doing that, trying to make him

1612
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 5: go to rehab.

1613
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 7: I hope it's not good.

1614
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 6: What it looks like? All right, what we got here? Yeah,

1615
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 6: So I mean today, it's like, who's on the right

1616
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 6: field to me? That's what's interesting. You know what guys

1617
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 6: are kind of getting some mix with with the quote

1618
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 6: unquote starters play action there.

1619
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 5: It is nice off platform. That's the off platform.

1620
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 8: This is like what I'm talking about with him, and

1621
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 8: I know that I'm going to over rate this all summer,

1622
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 8: but he just makes that look so effortless, like it

1623
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 8: it's a play action boot. He's gonna throw her on

1624
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 8: the run. His feet are going to be in the

1625
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 8: air when he's throwing it, and it's just looks better

1626
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 8: it's on a line. When other guys that aren't as

1627
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 8: athletic do that, it doesn't look like that.

1628
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 6: He looks I mean we've seen him already. How many

1629
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 6: practice we watched, We've seen him do it, you know,

1630
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 6: three four times already, just look comfortable on the move,

1631
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 6: being able to pull up throw the ball.

1632
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 7: Yeah. That that's how it's on the whiteboard, right, like

1633
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 7: hit the crosser off the play action. That that's exactly

1634
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 7: how they drew draw it up and how it's supposed

1635
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 7: to look.

1636
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 6: Like feed juju.

1637
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 7: Right, that was a nice, nice cut up there. That's

1638
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 7: what you're looking a little bit, you know, Yeah, those

1639
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 7: last two plays is that's that's how it's.

1640
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 5: Supposed a little bit because people can't see.

1641
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 7: So, yeah, you have outside zone, right, so you have

1642
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 7: everybody moving forrizontally in a ninety degree to their left

1643
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,839
Speaker 7: or right, and and then you're setting up more ideally

1644
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 7: cutback lanes through the middle of the field. And then

1645
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 7: on the play before he fakes the wide zone, you know,

1646
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 7: fakes the stretcher on blue legs off of it, they

1647
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 7: send Juju on a cross or coming in the other

1648
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 7: direction and he just hits Juju over the middle for completion.

1649
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 7: So that's how it's gonna look when they try to

1650
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 7: start to build this up and rep it over and

1651
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 7: over again. Is you know, we're gonna run it. We're

1652
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 7: gonna show you run. But really what they're doing is

1653
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 7: they're trying to set up the pass plays off of

1654
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 7: the action. To run is just more of a way

1655
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 7: to keep the offense on schedule.

1656
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 4: Get guys to commit. It opens up up the middle

1657
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 4: of the field.

1658
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, the explosive plays are going to come in the

1659
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 7: passing game. That's that's the goal. And you know, like

1660
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 7: Paul said, all these actions where he's on the move,

1661
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 7: you know, Drake may is on the move. It just

1662
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 7: looks natural for him, and that's what makes it such

1663
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 7: an intriguing marriage between system and quarterback is you know

1664
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 7: he can do those types of things effortlessly, and that's

1665
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 7: why it was a good fit.

1666
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 4: In Van Pelt, Jared writes in from North Carolina, I

1667
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 4: think people forgot how good our defense is. Plus we're

1668
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 4: bringing Gonzo and judea on back from injury. I think

1669
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 4: they'll be top five again.

1670
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 5: Offensive we don't need a quarterback to save the day,

1671
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 5: whether it's presett or may If the offense could just

1672
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 5: score two or three times a game, we'll win a

1673
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 5: lot of games.

1674
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 4: Over the past couple of seasons, we've lost a lot

1675
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 4: a bunch of one possession games because of some missed

1676
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 4: key plays. Do you guys think I'm being delusional or

1677
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,759
Speaker 4: that this team can be sneakily good if you surprise

1678
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 4: the NFL.

1679
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 8: If you think that they can score two or three

1680
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 8: times a game and win, then you're being delusional because

1681
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 8: twenty points doesn't win a lot of games, just doesn't.

1682
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 10: Now. Now, if you're looking at last year's games, there

1683
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 10: were a few games if they would have just had

1684
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 10: a pulse on offense, yes, they would have won them. Yeah,

1685
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 10: one or two touchdowns, but overall, it's hard to win

1686
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 10: in the NFL if you're not scoring thirty, right.

1687
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 5: Well three, And just remember those games.

1688
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 4: You know, the Colts were with Gardner Minshew, the Jets

1689
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 4: were with.

1690
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,719
Speaker 5: Not they didn't have a quarterback, you know.

1691
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 8: So once was Zach Wilson, once was Trevis Simeon. And

1692
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 8: I'm not even saying like the defense isn't going to

1693
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 8: do what you think the defense can do. They they

1694
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 8: could definitely do that. I just think it's surprising that

1695
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 8: you would say that people are overlooking a defense. I

1696
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 8: think that's all anybody talks about.

1697
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 4: That's We talked to Aaron Shatz yesterday on our show,

1698
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 4: and his whole reasoning for the Patriots having seven games,

1699
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 4: which is three seven wins, which is three more than

1700
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 4: last year's because of the defense.

1701
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 8: Right, And you could easily they could easily have won

1702
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 8: seven games.

1703
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,480
Speaker 5: Last year easily easily, Yeah.

1704
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 9: And not been any different of a team.

1705
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like yeah, I just feel like even if they

1706
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 7: win games like that reminds me of twenty twenty two,

1707
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 7: where they were in it technically until the end, right,

1708
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 7: I mean, they could have won in Buffalo and made

1709
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 7: the playoffs. Yeah, but was that team good? Like, was

1710
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 7: that yeah a product.

1711
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 4: That I'd rather win four games again this year and

1712
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 4: end the season saying, Drake May had a good rookie season.

1713
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,719
Speaker 5: We got something to build on here than win seven

1714
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 5: or eight. And it's just because of the defense, yeah,

1715
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 5: and the offense.

1716
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean exactly, Like if it's if it's fourteen

1717
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 7: to thirteen and they win six seven games, winning fourteen thirteen,

1718
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 7: it just doesn't it doesn't do it for me. I'm

1719
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 7: not excited about that.

1720
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1721
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 10: There were so many times where if we weren't playing

1722
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 10: and I was watching other NFL games on TV, it

1723
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 10: was so crazy to see like actual offenses being front points.

1724
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 6: Being like I always let you know what I's crazy

1725
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 6: when it hits me to matter.

1726
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 8: It is when I'm watching a game and there's like

1727
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 8: seven or eight minutes left and one team's maybe trailing,

1728
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 8: and you're watching, You're like, oh, oh don't don't, oh

1729
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 8: slow down. You don't want to score because not only

1730
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 8: you know they're going to score to take the lead,

1731
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 8: you know the other team's then going to score to

1732
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 8: win it at the end, exactly. And you never have

1733
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 8: that feeling when you're watching the Patriots games, and.

1734
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 10: You don't want to turn the game off, like you

1735
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 10: want to watch to see what's gonna happen because there's

1736
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,759
Speaker 10: so many between the elite wide receivers and the DB's

1737
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 10: it's so much action happening. And then our games you

1738
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 10: have to struggle to keep your eyes open.

1739
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 7: And nice throw over there by Jacoby Brisset and seven

1740
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 7: on seven trying to get a number I think is

1741
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 7: Austin Hooper a little stick nod, so he's gonna like

1742
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 7: fake like he's gonna he's gonna come up the seam

1743
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 7: and he threw it right over Marty Map Who's year?

1744
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 7: Really nice throw there?

1745
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 6: Who is the back safety?

1746
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 12: Do you know?

1747
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 7: I didn't see who the back safety was? No, but

1748
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 7: he squeezed it in there.

1749
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 6: I see thirty two walking off. So it was fifteen

1750
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 6: and thirty two. Yeah, I believe.

1751
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 5: So, yeah, this is this is uh not even seven

1752
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 5: on seven right now? Yeah? It is?

1753
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1754
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 5: Oh is it?

1755
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1756
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 5: Looks like there are only six guys on offense.

1757
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 7: There is because the coach is the one snap.

1758
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 5: Oh I see, I got you?

1759
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, he's complicated.

1760
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 5: Centers need love to Yeah, even when they don't have

1761
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 5: a jersey.

1762
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 6: It's a six on seven. Yeah, coaches don't count.

1763
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 7: It's been pretty involved in some of these, not all catches,

1764
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 7: but he did make a nice catch on the hitch

1765
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 7: targeted on the go route. So he continues to be

1766
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 7: someone that that looks the part. I would say, it's

1767
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 7: not super flashy, but he's out.

1768
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 6: Here, gets his job done. And where has uh has

1769
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 6: shaken Baker Man?

1770
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 7: Yeah? I haven't seen him.

1771
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 10: Is that your nickname?

1772
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 7: Prim?

1773
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 6: I don't know. It just came to me. Maybe we'll

1774
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 6: see if it sticks.

1775
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 5: Well.

1776
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 6: He has to shake hi, bake somebody first before I

1777
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:13,520
Speaker 6: can be shaking Baker.

1778
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 7: To Michael Petaway check, don't sleep on the Michael, don't

1779
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 7: sleep on Maybe.

1780
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 5: It's Tim says.

1781
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 4: One of my favorite training camp memories when Brady was

1782
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 4: signing autogreshs back when they used to do autograph alley.

1783
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 5: They still do that.

1784
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 4: My friend is an Eagles fan and wore his Michael

1785
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 4: Vick jersey to the signing. Brady signed for everyone, then

1786
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 4: looked at my friend and his Eagles jersey and purposely

1787
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 4: skipped over him.

1788
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:43,560
Speaker 5: It was hilarious.

1789
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 4: He was mad that Brady skipped him, but that's what

1790
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 4: you get for doing for wearing that tree. That's so

1791
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 4: Brady though, Oh yeah you know, but did you guys?

1792
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 6: Sorry, fred, I didn't mean to cut you off. They

1793
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 6: showed him signing jerseys, and then all of a sudden

1794
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 6: there was an Eli Manning jersey and that he had

1795
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 6: to sign that I guess was going back to Eli Manning.

1796
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 6: So he just wrote a big f off, and then

1797
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 6: Eli got it and laughed, and Eli wrote back a

1798
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 6: good game.

1799
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 8: So yeah, that's good, subtle little comeback.

1800
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,719
Speaker 7: I haven't seen Pop Douglas, who is off with Jim

1801
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 7: Whale and the trainer doing some stuff, and hopefully that's

1802
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 7: nothing serious. And I haven't seen Javon do anything either.

1803
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 7: That might be Jon. He is all right, that's his

1804
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 7: first rep.

1805
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 8: Drake not looking at this little checkdown that not even

1806
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 8: looking at him.

1807
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 6: Don't even look out't look any shake and bake anybody

1808
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 6: if you don't look out a.

1809
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 7: Couple of checkdowns in this sequence from Drake Man. I

1810
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 7: think we should outlaw checkdowns and settle.

1811
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 9: It's just you should drive me crazy.

1812
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 8: Brady very rarely would have any down periods in these drills,

1813
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 8: but whenever he did, it'd be like maybe a pass

1814
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 8: get picked and then maybe an incompletion you knew it,

1815
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 8: like a shallow dump down or a cross er to

1816
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 8: like Edelman was coming. Yeah, he was going to complete

1817
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 8: the next pass no matter what.

1818
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 6: Yep, pet Away with Juju Baker Juju andborn with Drake May.

1819
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 7: There's a lot of these little underneath you know, sit routes,

1820
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 7: return routes, things like that that they're throwing right now.

1821
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:22,799
Speaker 8: Bolden Bolden, that's a little strap down after that play.

1822
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 6: Yeah. I like him. He's another one kind of keep

1823
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 6: an eye on. I don't know how all these cornerbacks

1824
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 6: are going to play out. Alex Austin, you know, seem

1825
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 6: to come on. They seem to like him as a

1826
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 6: guy who can play in the league.

1827
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 8: Markets Bolden, Dial some of the undrafted guys, keep an

1828
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 8: eye on them.

1829
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 9: There's gonna be jobs to win.

1830
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 7: I like the idea of those guys competing in the

1831
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 7: slot too, to maybe give them some more size than

1832
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 7: they've had with you know, Marcus Jones, Miles Bryant. Those

1833
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 7: guys are Marcus Jones good matchup player in the slot.

1834
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 7: But ideally, oh it's kind of step there. Okay, So

1835
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 7: let's that one Jalener on a go ball from Drake

1836
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 7: May one handed catch down the right sideline. That was

1837
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 7: a bomb.

1838
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 5: That was a good catch.

1839
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 7: He was overthrown like maybe buy half a stride in

1840
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 7: one headed catch.

1841
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 6: We're allowed to throw the ball that far school, showing

1842
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 6: you why he's a special Yeah, they're not going to

1843
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 6: put that in the tweet, so well, it's a.

1844
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 5: Former first round pick there, Paul, Come on, Yes, schooler

1845
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 5: and school are and coverage and they're not going to

1846
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 5: see that a lot.

1847
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 8: That's why they hate us, and you don't. We don't

1848
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 8: provide the proper context.

1849
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 7: I'm going to put it in the tweet.

1850
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 5: Was a nice kidding You're not going to see school

1851
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 5: or in terrific lot.

1852
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 6: I didn't think he's gonna catch up to it, that's why.

1853
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 9: But terrific one hander.

1854
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, and and let's be honest, I mean Jalen Rager

1855
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,719
Speaker 6: pretty active in mini camp too. Yeah, for what it's worth,

1856
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 6: got some balls going again to Pulk. See that's usually

1857
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 6: catch Pulk makes.

1858
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was that was catchable. He dropped it in there.

1859
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 4: That was very Thornton like between two defenders and that

1860
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 4: is May, by the way, that was.

1861
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 9: More difficult when you're covered.

1862
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's I mean, Marcella's dial good coverage on that rookie,

1863
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 8: rookie rookie. But yeah, that's more than a few times

1864
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 8: in those last year you see good JA time.

1865
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 10: I saw I saw some Zappi Our t shirts in

1866
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 10: the crowds.

1867
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 5: Zappy Hour in Boston.

1868
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 6: It actually was about an hour. That's it's now we're

1869
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 6: on Maytime. May Day. Zaps kicks it out too. I

1870
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 6: still don't got these running backs down yet. Jim Michael Hasty.

1871
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 9: He's definitely comfortable as a receiver.

1872
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, aj And is in the from the Bay Area,

1873
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 4: but he's in Providence. Wants to know what the training

1874
01:21:56,120 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 4: camp schedule is for the weekend. Uh, well, it's Tomorrow, Friday,

1875
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 4: and Sunday at eleven.

1876
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 5: O'clock off day, Saturday, off day, Saturday open. Don't come

1877
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 5: down Saturday.

1878
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 6: No, but Gape's open at ten and there's Baker, isn't it's.

1879
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 7: He's deep, comeback or out. Yeah, that's one thing that

1880
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 7: I think he does well is finished through contact. Like

1881
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 7: there's not a ton of contact out here right now.

1882
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 7: But even if he doesn't create a ton of separation,

1883
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 7: whether he's going you know, elevating to go above the

1884
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 7: defense or just boxing somebody out. He's got a good frame,

1885
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 7: plays with good strength. That's all over his college tape.

1886
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 6: Too, say seven game the more run that the kid

1887
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 6: David Wallace who made the team as like a tryout

1888
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 6: guy in the slot. But this is everybody right now,

1889
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 6: all the all the linemen and defensive front eyes are

1890
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,839
Speaker 6: over FKA Dante's inferno.

1891
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 8: So that looked like a little bit of miscommunication with

1892
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 8: Baker and yeah, Zappy. I think Zappy thought it was

1893
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 8: going to be a back shoulder and okay, now see

1894
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 8: I think Baker actually read it right because I thought

1895
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 8: he had a step too.

1896
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 6: When I kind of said like, hey, have you kind

1897
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 6: of like this year when we were like looking at

1898
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 6: Joe Milton for like you know, scouting, I'm like, huh,

1899
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 6: he'd be kind of fun, like this is it right

1900
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 6: now where I'm like, all right, four string reps, Like,

1901
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 6: let's just Joe.

1902
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 8: It's the fourth quarter of the preseason case yeah, yeah, yeah,

1903
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 8: That's when I'm like, yeah, I'll.

1904
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 6: Watch him to see him rip it right right right.

1905
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 8: It's like that that drive that Malie Cunningham had last year.

1906
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 9: I'll watch that.

1907
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have a helicopters, just bringing back

1908
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 8: bad memories seven the helicopter coming in and training camp.

1909
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 6: Terrible Joe Milton, nice throw. It's a pretty I was

1910
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 6: on time, yep. Pretty to uh come back to eighty two?

1911
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:52,799
Speaker 6: Key Shawan Harris, Hey you Jack Jackson? Oh the team anymore?

1912
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 6: It'd be funny just keep throwing old names out there

1913
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 6: early eighty two.

1914
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 9: That was right, Keysho Harris.

1915
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 6: And then wasn't your kid too that you were like

1916
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 6: into the receiver?

1917
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 9: He was seventeen dollars.

1918
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 5: So the owner was on the field, so that must

1919
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:08,879
Speaker 5: be Jonathan.

1920
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1921
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 10: He walked off about ten minutes ago.

1922
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 5: Okay, we'll see.

1923
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:12,759
Speaker 7: If I got eyes.

1924
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 6: They sent the chopper to get him.

1925
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, he walked off about ten minutes ago. It was

1926
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 10: kind of sneaky, though, Fred, because when he walked out

1927
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 10: he had on like that blue button up. But then

1928
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:24,839
Speaker 10: when he walked back this way, he had on a raincoat.

1929
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 6: Oh is it raining out there.

1930
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 10: Quite a little bit? I see a drop here and there?

1931
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, all right, here and there.

1932
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 7: You saw you saw a schooler in coverage on Rager, right, Yeah,

1933
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 7: it was absolutely school some say or some grousing in

1934
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 7: the media tent about this, so oh so some say

1935
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 7: is easy hear and some are saying, okay.

1936
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 8: I would just I would just argue does it really matter?

1937
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 8: But the guy that was closest to him running down

1938
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 8: the sideline was schooling.

1939
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 7: That's who I saw too, But maybe he was coming

1940
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 7: over the top.

1941
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 6: We're higher guys where we got the view.

1942
01:24:58,439 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 5: As long as it wasn't Christian Goanzal.

1943
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 8: I remember, I remember thinking that's Bubba vent trone forty one.

1944
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,560
Speaker 6: Joe Milton excited for a dump off pass there to

1945
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:10,639
Speaker 6: Hasty Pudding.

1946
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 5: And it wasn't one hundred miles an hour.

1947
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 10: It wasn't. I was gonna say that, Bred. I feel

1948
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,959
Speaker 10: like in those short passes, I feel like he struggles

1949
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 10: because he doesn't know how to reel back on the power. Yeah,

1950
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 10: but those actually were pretty good.

1951
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, he looked let's see the bring out the bazooka,

1952
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 7: Joel Azoka.

1953
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Speaker 6: Joe, he's got a unleashed one here, right, Yeah, at

1954
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 6: some point, take a shot.

1955
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 5: Guy, he's on the hill.

1956
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Speaker 6: I believe I might be twenty nine, which is Dyrell Jennings.

1957
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 5: At twenty nine.

1958
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 7: That's who I saw earlier.

1959
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:53,719
Speaker 5: Milton's still at quarterback.

1960
01:25:56,479 --> 01:26:00,040
Speaker 6: It's a nice throw, yeah, right on time. Hit the

1961
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 6: crosser up.

1962
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 7: They like that. Concepts like Phill O'Brien would call it inch.

1963
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 7: I don't know what they call it. But you have

1964
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 7: like a little hitch underneath, and then you have the

1965
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 7: incut come right over the top of it, and it

1966
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 7: high lows the hook defender there in the zone and

1967
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 7: he kind of has to pick you know which one

1968
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 7: is gonna cover. And you often see that incut.

1969
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Speaker 5: Get it completed, all right, Matt morel Are we good

1970
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 5: to take a break?

1971
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 6: Oh, yes, we are.

1972
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Speaker 5: All right. Let's take a break. We'll fill you.

1973
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Speaker 4: In with anything that you might have missed, but we're

1974
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Speaker 4: gonna take a break right now. We'll be right back

1975
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Speaker 4: after this.

1976
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Speaker 13: Isn't it Time to get exactly what you want?

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Speaker 15: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh No,

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1988
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Speaker 13: Isn't it time to get exactly what you want?

2004
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 14: Welcome to Red Hot Deal Days from Verizon, where you

2005
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Speaker 14: get your pick of our best deals like my Plan,

2006
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Speaker 14: where you can pick the perks you want and save

2007
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2008
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Speaker 14: a Verizon store and you can get my plan for

2009
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Speaker 14: our best price ever. Get exactly what you want on

2010
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Speaker 14: your phone plan and only pay for what you need.

2011
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Speaker 14: Bring your phone to your Verizon store today and get

2012
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Speaker 14: my plan. These deals won't last. It's your Verizon.

2013
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Speaker 15: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, Oh no,

2014
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 15: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

2015
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Speaker 15: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

2016
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Speaker 15: now it's next for residential delivery only.

2017
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Speaker 13: Isn't it time to get exactly what you want?

2018
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 14: Welcome to Red Hot Deal Days from Verizon, where you

2019
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Speaker 14: get your pick of our best deals like my plan,

2020
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Speaker 14: where you can pick the perks you want and save

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Speaker 14: on everyone for limited time. Bring your own phones to

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Speaker 14: a Verizon store and you can get my plan for

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Speaker 14: Bring your phone to your Verizon store today and get

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2027
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Speaker 15: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, Oh no,

2028
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Speaker 15: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

2029
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Speaker 15: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

2030
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Speaker 15: now me it's next for residential delivery only.

2031
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Speaker 5: Whether you're in the game or.

2032
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Speaker 13: Isn't it time to get exactly what you want?

2033
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2034
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Speaker 4: above the practice fields at Jillette Stadium. It's Fred Kurs,

2061
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Speaker 4: Paul Perrillo, Mike Dussa, Evan Bazaar, Tamara Brown and you know, guys,

2062
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Speaker 4: while we were at break the teams in eleven and eleven,

2063
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 4: what did we.

2064
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 6: See early down work? Some work on the running game,

2065
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 6: some you know, base defense, you know, nothing too crazy

2066
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 6: so far, getting some run fits going. I mean, I

2067
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 6: think this is what we kind of anticipated, that they

2068
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 6: were gonna put some work in the middle of the

2069
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 6: field on the run game in early downs. And I

2070
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 6: think that's what we're seeing a lot of rotation. But

2071
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 6: you know, to Evan's point as we were getting back,

2072
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 6: I mean, when you seems like a brief kind of

2073
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 6: move to right tackle early in the OTAs and now

2074
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 6: he just seems like he's settled back in the right guard,

2075
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 6: which I'm all for. Like I did think that's where

2076
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 6: he's the best. Then, you know, I think that's the

2077
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 6: best fit. And if Calvin Anderson, you know who's getting

2078
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 6: to look at the right tackle right now more athletic.

2079
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 6: I mean, of all the players on the roster. Grant,

2080
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 6: he's not playing left tackle, but he's played more left

2081
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 6: tackle snaps I think in the NFL than anybody else,

2082
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 6: So he can move a little bit and I think

2083
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:19,600
Speaker 6: he probably fits a little bit more into you know

2084
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:21,639
Speaker 6: what Evan's saying. If as a right tackle who can

2085
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 6: move his feet, get out there, and you know, maybe

2086
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 6: he's a better fit. And that's why he's getting to.

2087
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 9: Look right now.

2088
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 7: Yeah. It just you're one hundred percent right, and I'm

2089
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 7: I'm grousing about things I probably shouldn't grouse about. But

2090
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 7: when you tell us in March and April that he

2091
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 7: signed Mike on Winnu because he was the top right

2092
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 7: tackle on the market, and then we're out here day

2093
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 7: one a training camp and he's playing right guard, where

2094
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 7: he should have been playing all along and is his

2095
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 7: natural position. It's like, well, then you didn't sign a

2096
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 7: top free.

2097
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 6: Agent tackle like it just yeah, the.

2098
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 7: Whole position was just didn't make any sense to begin with,

2099
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 7: and us Layman's could see it from a mile away

2100
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 7: that this was not going to work. And now we're

2101
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,640
Speaker 7: already out here on day one and doesn't work and

2102
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 7: that that that's the part to me that's frustrating about it.

2103
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 7: It's obviously the right decision, but it just how we

2104
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 7: got here, Like, we didn't have to do that whole thing.

2105
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 7: Mike on Win, who's the right tackle. He comes in

2106
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 7: in the spring, he tells us he's getting ready for

2107
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 7: the season to play at right tackle, and then here

2108
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 7: we are, like what was the point of that?

2109
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 6: So that first one with Drake Mayon just to kind

2110
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 6: of a tuck and run, look like you want to

2111
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 6: throw it quick. But unless unless you think Evan that

2112
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 6: was a QB drop, No it wasn't.

2113
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 7: But the red Seas did part and so that's something

2114
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 7: that he's gonna do.

2115
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, if he sees that.

2116
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:36,639
Speaker 7: If he sees that green grass, he's just gonna take off.

2117
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:41,560
Speaker 7: I mean, well aborted snaps.

2118
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 6: Mis guys, they don't take snaps under center.

2119
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 17: Freddy in college big adjustment to ball security. Took the

2120
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 17: words right out of my mouth, Paul, this is something

2121
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 17: that we do have to monitor, and just a tiny

2122
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 17: bit now. I think he does have Antonio Maffi, I'm

2123
01:33:56,560 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 17: assuming is the center in this offensive right Maybe it's

2124
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 17: nic Leverett.

2125
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 5: So we are getting a little bit of precipitation right now,

2126
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 5: are you. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not saying that's why he

2127
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 5: dropped the snap.

2128
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 6: But I mean, based on the schedule, we're probably coming

2129
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 6: down close to the end here. That might only be

2130
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 6: about ten minutes after.

2131
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe one more time through the four quarterbacks.

2132
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:24,599
Speaker 5: We can't in practice without Chad Ryley.

2133
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 6: No, he's getting warmed up right now, him and Slider

2134
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 6: going at it against the what do you call this, Paul,

2135
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 6: the skinny the skinny post, the skinny jeans with a

2136
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:33,919
Speaker 6: skinny post.

2137
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,759
Speaker 10: Skinny jeans, you know, skinny jeans, skinny posts.

2138
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 6: May I'm Cork's one into double coverage and it is.

2139
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 10: I remember we were, you know, talking about possible head

2140
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:48,719
Speaker 10: coaching candidates. Evan kept saying we need one of those

2141
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 10: skinny jeans guys.

2142
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, all his offensive guys.

2143
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 6: It just squeezes the scheme from your legs up into

2144
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 6: your brain and you're able to this.

2145
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 7: Drake made to Jalen Polk a post corner around just

2146
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 7: couldn't connect on it, but he saw this single high

2147
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 7: safety up the top and and he took the shot,

2148
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:10,679
Speaker 7: which is what you want to see.

2149
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:13,760
Speaker 8: Try to keep an eye on, you know, all the

2150
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 8: all the young guys, new guys. That's another good rep

2151
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 8: for Marcella's dial on that play. Ye, he had really

2152
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 8: good coverage again on Polk.

2153
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 7: Coming across those ones with Polk, you feel like they're

2154
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 7: gonna take some time because you're gonna have to just

2155
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 7: throw it into Polk's catch radius and trust that he's

2156
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:31,599
Speaker 7: going to make the play in traffic, Yeah, because he's

2157
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 7: not going to run by anybody in the league at

2158
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 7: four by four or whatever it was. So those ones

2159
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 7: are are trust throws that he's going to go up

2160
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 7: and get those.

2161
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2162
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:44,479
Speaker 8: I feel the rain now, Truss, Yeah, did.

2163
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 6: You guys bring a slickers?

2164
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 5: I'm just more worried about the equipment too.

2165
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 6: It's waterproof electronics. They do they define him, Yeah, they

2166
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 6: love water. Interesting in water chuydrophilic.

2167
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, Breake may out there under.

2168
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 7: Center, Yeah, quite a bit of under center which you

2169
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:11,760
Speaker 7: would expect on early down work.

2170
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 5: Not looking good.

2171
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 6: Didn't come out of his hand.

2172
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 8: It was the nose of the ball down kind of throw,

2173
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 8: looked like a guy hit.

2174
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:23,560
Speaker 7: It was a Ken Dorsey throw, a little bit like

2175
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 7: a little pressure in his face and just didn't get

2176
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:26,720
Speaker 7: into it.

2177
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 6: That's Zapi Hour, Sean Wade just running gassers here on.

2178
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's he's done a lot of that.

2179
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 6: Side field.

2180
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 7: ZAPPI time, Zappy Hour. I do wonder at one point

2181
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:57,799
Speaker 7: in time we're gonna do away with some of these reps.

2182
01:36:59,520 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 5: That was.

2183
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,639
Speaker 7: Her and who's gotten burned twice now by Jalen Rager.

2184
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 9: So it was at.

2185
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 7: Schooler was playing safety over the top on the first one.

2186
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 7: Zzy Hearn having his hands full with Jalen Rager aka

2187
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 7: Randy Moss.

2188
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 6: Right well, and that's what I just, you know, I

2189
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 6: wonder we look at that wide receiver depth chart. There's

2190
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 6: so many guys and it's I just think there's so

2191
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 6: many different permutations. That is it wrong to say that

2192
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 6: Jalen Rager has no chance? Like, I don't think i'd

2193
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:33,599
Speaker 6: rule anybody.

2194
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 9: I also think, yeah, could you say that?

2195
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 10: I also think with Reger too, he brings something special

2196
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 10: with special teams as well, Like there there were times,

2197
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 10: especially with Marcus Jones out that he was in that

2198
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 10: special Thomas turned spot returning those punts.

2199
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 7: So Rega, I mean, we'll see what can help him

2200
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 7: out when the pads come on. But right now, based

2201
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 7: off the spring in this practice, which is granted not

2202
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 7: a ton, it's hard to envision Jalen Rager off. It's

2203
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:04,240
Speaker 7: like he's he brings a speed threat. It translates more

2204
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 7: than Taekwon Thornton's does to to offense. He has the

2205
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 7: return ability, as Tamara said, like they need somebody on

2206
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 7: the team that can run by someone offensively. It can't

2207
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 7: all be you know, Jalen Polk's and those types of guys,

2208
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 7: and pop Is obviously is a kind of his own thing,

2209
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 7: you know, more of a jitterbug than he is like

2210
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 7: a true deep threat.

2211
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 8: Pardona from forty I just have a time.

2212
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:29,719
Speaker 7: Not seeing Rager got.

2213
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 10: Evan in that same breath. What's it gonna take for

2214
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 10: Juju to not be on.

2215
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 6: This team, not to keep doing what he's doing?

2216
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 7: Could play there by break.

2217
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:44,120
Speaker 10: Up, But do you feel like Juju has to like

2218
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 10: wow you every single day of this camp?

2219
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 6: Well, he just needs to show up. I think that's

2220
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 6: I mean, that's the hardest thing. And I mean, you know,

2221
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 6: we mentioned Riger he showed up in ot As a

2222
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 6: little bit. He didn't really see anything from Juju. And

2223
01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 6: I mean, regardless of you know, oh it's just ohtas,

2224
01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 6: it's certain guys make plays, certain guy find ways to

2225
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,599
Speaker 6: catch the ball. You know, we saw what. I don't

2226
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:05,600
Speaker 6: know if I didn't see any other Juju targets. And

2227
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 6: granted tough play, but you know, he dropped it. So

2228
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:14,000
Speaker 6: it's you could tell me Rager Thornton and Juju make

2229
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 6: the team. You could tell me Rager Thornton and Juju

2230
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 6: don't make the team, and I wouldn't even bat an eye.

2231
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna come down to a numbers game

2232
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 6: and health for you know, guys like Born. If Born's

2233
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 6: going to be ready to.

2234
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 8: Go at the start of the season, and how many

2235
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 8: of you keep it other spots, Like initially right now,

2236
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,639
Speaker 8: I only kept three running backs. I think they'll probably

2237
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:41,599
Speaker 8: have a fourth on the on the roster. Does that

2238
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:43,600
Speaker 8: take away a wide receiver or you know, do you

2239
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:45,680
Speaker 8: do you just keep seven receivers.

2240
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 9: I love Marcus Jones.

2241
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 6: And I don't want anybody other.

2242
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:53,639
Speaker 8: Than Marcus Jones returning anything as long as he's healthy.

2243
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 8: So if Rager does what he does, what he did today,

2244
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 8: and he's you know, like to Evan's point, you need

2245
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:04,439
Speaker 8: someone who could run by somebody. That's his role. He

2246
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 8: has a role on offense. I'm all for Rager if

2247
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 8: we're keeping him, because we turned to kick for a

2248
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:12,799
Speaker 8: touchdown last year. I like Marcus Jones more than Rager

2249
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 8: as a returner.

2250
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 7: Walk buddy stuff. Now you can keep on.

2251
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:20,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you can make a case for any

2252
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 9: and all of them. That's just the kind of all

2253
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 9: the same to me.

2254
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:25,640
Speaker 7: I hear you on Marcus Jones. And especially with the

2255
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 7: new kickoff rules, you do need a little bit of

2256
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 7: make miss. I think with this new rule it's gonna

2257
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:32,920
Speaker 7: be a little bit more like a punt and then

2258
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 7: they kick off. Yeah, in that respect. And Jalen Rager

2259
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 7: is your traditional kickoff returner where he's gonna go in

2260
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:42,559
Speaker 7: a straight line from zero to sixty in a hurry,

2261
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 7: whereas Marcus Jones has that joystick about him that he

2262
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:48,760
Speaker 7: can dance around contact and things like that. So it

2263
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 7: does suit Marcus Jones a little bit more. I just

2264
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,600
Speaker 7: think that having both of them back, there is a

2265
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,879
Speaker 7: possibility that we might see that they might.

2266
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:00,599
Speaker 8: Use because you might need two kick returners. I did

2267
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 8: think it was interesting that he compared it. It's like

2268
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 8: more conducive to punt returns. The new, the new, the

2269
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:07,679
Speaker 8: new rules.

2270
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:10,759
Speaker 6: One for one there on Drake may. I love whoever's

2271
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 6: recording stats. I hope they're getting these ones that walk

2272
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:14,720
Speaker 6: through pace. Let them catch it, let them catch it,

2273
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 6: one for one. And that hasn't just really gotten no,

2274
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:22,600
Speaker 6: but that literally was let him catch it.

2275
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 12: I mean.

2276
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 6: Another cats for Rager, great day for him. Guys are

2277
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 6: walking by, Okay, I think we're lifting up. We have

2278
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:39,720
Speaker 6: lift off chopper. They got to the choppa and now

2279
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 6: they're leaving.

2280
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think that's the owner leaving now right,

2281
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:55,639
Speaker 5: I assumes enough he said enough, We're gonna be good.

2282
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 9: We're gonna be good. I've seen enough.

2283
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 5: That long commute to Chestnut Hill, Fred, what what.

2284
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 7: Are you doing?

2285
01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:02,320
Speaker 10: What?

2286
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:06,559
Speaker 5: Oh?

2287
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 6: So much time in.

2288
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 5: The Pockectually he's he's heading to New York.

2289
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 6: Ah, that's well, that way is probably that is New York.

2290
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 10: That way I have no sense of direction.

2291
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:18,720
Speaker 6: Shelf, Well, this is the South end zone it is.

2292
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 8: I've worked here for twenty this is my twenty sixth

2293
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 8: training camp. They describe the North and South end zone,

2294
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 8: and I ask Fred every time which one is the

2295
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:28,680
Speaker 8: North end?

2296
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 10: Same the same one game day, They'll be like, meet

2297
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 10: me here for this like live hit, and I'm like,

2298
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 10: where is that. They're like North end zone. I'm like,

2299
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 10: which one's which?

2300
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:39,400
Speaker 6: Oh, we might be running. We might be running the hills, folks.

2301
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 8: This might be to me, North is that way and

2302
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 8: the end zone's over there. I don't know why they

2303
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:46,679
Speaker 8: call it the North end zone.

2304
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 4: So I just want to remind everyone to stick around.

2305
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:52,840
Speaker 4: We'll keep the show going because tomorrow is going to

2306
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 4: be doing a one on one with a player right

2307
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:55,679
Speaker 4: from the field.

2308
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 5: We'll put a headset on him and.

2309
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:00,120
Speaker 4: She'll talk to him, just kind of like what they

2310
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 4: doing in baseball now with the manager and the dugout

2311
01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 4: and that type of thing.

2312
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 5: We're going to do the same thing with a player. Uh.

2313
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 4: Could be Dietrich Wise, could be Pop Douglas, We're not

2314
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:11,720
Speaker 4: sure at this point. We'll try to get the guy

2315
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 4: who's available fast, uh, so that we don't have to

2316
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 4: wait around that long. But right now they're heading down

2317
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:22,000
Speaker 4: to the hills and they're going to be doing a

2318
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,520
Speaker 4: little running conditioning. Run after practice.

2319
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:28,599
Speaker 6: It's the worst part of every sport, right, So running

2320
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 6: after practice.

2321
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 4: Your first day practice highlights, guys and girls?

2322
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 5: What are we? What are we talking about?

2323
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:37,799
Speaker 10: To mere Star, I'll go first, which means I probably

2324
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 10: get the highlight. Jalen Rager. I think he's my highlight. Unfortunately,

2325
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,680
Speaker 10: if I'm taking anyone's words out of their mouth, I

2326
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,840
Speaker 10: think he had a couple of great catches. Obviously, that

2327
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 10: one down down the sideline where we don't know who

2328
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:51,280
Speaker 10: is defending him, we're up in the air and who

2329
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 10: was defending him. But that one hand catch was my wow, wow,

2330
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 10: I can't.

2331
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 7: I can't confirm it was as easy earn. As much

2332
01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 7: as we don't like to advertise people taking videos from

2333
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 7: this stands. Yeah, the streets have the video.

2334
01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 5: The streets have the video.

2335
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, so Scholo was just chasing.

2336
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:10,719
Speaker 7: Correct deuce a favorite.

2337
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:14,599
Speaker 6: How about the second Jaylen May I'm just gonna say

2338
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 6: the highlight for me is just getting started. I mean, there's,

2339
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:18,840
Speaker 6: you know, the great catch by Tamara, But just to

2340
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 6: get the first day kind of under your belt, get

2341
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 6: a sense of how things are gonna kind of go

2342
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 6: with Jerrod a little bit different, a little shorter here today,

2343
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 6: but just get the train rolling, and now you know,

2344
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:29,759
Speaker 6: now as to start to build Uart. We want pads,

2345
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:31,920
Speaker 6: we want preseason, we want joint practice, we want the

2346
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 6: regular season. It all starts right now. So that's that's

2347
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:35,200
Speaker 6: it for me, just getting going.

2348
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would do so. I obviously there's we shouldn't

2349
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 7: really jump to any conclusions based off of this one practice,

2350
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 7: not in pads. But I guess we should just mention

2351
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:47,800
Speaker 7: that Jacoby Brissett let off everything as we expected in

2352
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:52,640
Speaker 7: Drake May right behind him, second in line, so that

2353
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 7: that's how it's gonna be for the foreseeable future, I

2354
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:57,720
Speaker 7: would think. And I'm just curious to see at what

2355
01:44:57,880 --> 01:45:01,040
Speaker 7: point do those guys start to double up in the

2356
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 7: Bailey's appy. Joe Milton did get a few reps here today.

2357
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 7: Did those reps go away for QB three, QB four

2358
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 7: and we start to see a lot more of Jacoby

2359
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:14,799
Speaker 7: Ressaid and Drake May than what we saw here today.

2360
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 8: I would say two things stood out to me. One is,

2361
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:21,639
Speaker 8: you know Judon talked, you know, in the spring about

2362
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 8: not being happy the way he handled things last year

2363
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 8: first day, both he and Godshaw were regular participants in practice,

2364
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:30,840
Speaker 8: so that stood out to me.

2365
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 9: And the second one.

2366
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:35,800
Speaker 8: Is my overreaction, my daily overreaction to the athleticism that

2367
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:39,639
Speaker 8: Drake may possesses. I loved that play action boot Crosser

2368
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:40,799
Speaker 8: to Juju Smith Schuster.

2369
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:42,479
Speaker 6: That was my highlight of the day.

2370
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 8: Plays that you could not run last year with the

2371
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 8: personnel that you had at the position. So admittedly it's

2372
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:54,720
Speaker 8: a gross overreaction on one play, but I just love

2373
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 8: the athleticism that he provides.

2374
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with everything that you guys have said.

2375
01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:00,680
Speaker 4: I'll add this is a really month day one, but

2376
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 4: one that just kind of underscored some things.

2377
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 5: We're gonna do things a little bit differently.

2378
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:08,599
Speaker 4: When they were warming up doing their stretching, you had

2379
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 4: offense on another field doing their own thing and defense

2380
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:13,839
Speaker 4: they'd never done that before.

2381
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 5: They've always had, you.

2382
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 4: Know, got you know, the offensive defense on the same

2383
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 4: side of the field doing it together. Something different. I

2384
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 4: don't know why they're doing it. It's silly, but it

2385
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:27,719
Speaker 4: just to me, you know, we're going to try different things.

2386
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 4: We're gonna do it a different way, and I think

2387
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 4: we're going to see more of that as we go

2388
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:36,719
Speaker 4: through training camp of Gerrodmeo and his coaching staff putting

2389
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:39,719
Speaker 4: their own thumbprint on how things are done around here.

2390
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 5: So we're not wrapping it up.

2391
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:46,600
Speaker 4: We're gonna continue to tap dance as we wait for

2392
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:49,799
Speaker 4: a player to become available for tomorrow to interview.

2393
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 5: I knew this was going to happen. Yeah, this is

2394
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 5: my one fear.

2395
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 6: Hard timing.

2396
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:57,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, just to get a player that quickly after practice

2397
01:46:57,640 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 4: because you know they do things afterwards.

2398
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:00,879
Speaker 6: So yeah, we'll.

2399
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 5: See how it goes.

2400
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:06,560
Speaker 4: See the media gathering because there will be player availability

2401
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 4: after practice with several players, uh speaking to the media.

2402
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:17,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think there's a pop Douglas was scheduled.

2403
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 9: We'll see.

2404
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 7: If he ends up talking, i'll pull it up. But yeah,

2405
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 7: we do.

2406
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:23,920
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2407
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2413
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:47,200
Speaker 7: So it's Pop Douglas Hunter, Henry mike On WHENU Remandre

2414
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:49,640
Speaker 7: Jolie Tobai and Dietrich.

2415
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:54,519
Speaker 6: Wise, Evan's got to get down to and be like, like,

2416
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 6: you're just a guard.

2417
01:47:56,960 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 10: Am gonna say, I'm just doing my.

2418
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:03,640
Speaker 6: Job wherever they want to put me. But I do

2419
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 6: think it's a little interesting just to see Calvin Anderson

2420
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:08,840
Speaker 6: kind of emerging into that mix a little bit. I mean,

2421
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,600
Speaker 6: it's a little bit unexpected that that, you know, he

2422
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:13,760
Speaker 6: might be one of the guys at the right tackle side.

2423
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:16,680
Speaker 6: But I do think it it just allows them to

2424
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:19,280
Speaker 6: play better. Like I just and when you re guard,

2425
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:22,439
Speaker 6: to me is the answer. And if Anderson's able to

2426
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 6: hold down the right tackle spot, that to me is

2427
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:26,760
Speaker 6: the you know, Paul, we talked about the best five.

2428
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 6: That's where it is for me. I think I'm when

2429
01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 6: you've got a play inside.

2430
01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think he's a better guard than

2431
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 8: a tackle, But I'm not sure, you know, to me,

2432
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 8: it would come down to those the Caden Wallace's, the

2433
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 8: Baderian Low's, the Calvin Anderson's. Are they better than City

2434
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 8: so or whoever else you want? Nick Liverett you know

2435
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 8: someone like that. You know at Guard, that to me

2436
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:56,680
Speaker 8: is where you're coming up with your five best you know,

2437
01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 8: he's Calvin Anderson better than City. So you know, assuming

2438
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:04,920
Speaker 8: when Strange is back, yeah, I think, well when Strange

2439
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:05,759
Speaker 8: is out, yeah.

2440
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 5: It looks like they're done with uh yeah, I can't

2441
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:14,840
Speaker 5: hear you, Evan. Looks like they're running as you as

2442
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 5: they say, Let's see who's in the middle of that?

2443
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:20,880
Speaker 5: Is it? Is it Gerd in the middle? You can't tell.

2444
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 6: It's a big, big gathering. Good first day, guys, way

2445
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 6: to work hard.

2446
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 5: Let's build on it.

2447
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 6: Well, you know that's the The thing that's funny though,

2448
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:32,960
Speaker 6: is like, you know, the end of practice, but you

2449
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 6: realize that these guys are they're in the midst of

2450
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:39,599
Speaker 6: like a tough couple of weeks. I mean, they're gonna

2451
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 6: be living here, They're going right into meetings, they're gonna

2452
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 6: break down this practice. And I would be curious though,

2453
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:47,400
Speaker 6: I know, you know, Gerard said they moved the meetings

2454
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:50,400
Speaker 6: to the morning before the practice. Is he getting guys

2455
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 6: out earlier? You know?

2456
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 5: Is that?

2457
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 6: I mean? Is this a thing where they're still here

2458
01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 6: toll like eight, nine, ten o'clock at night. Sure some

2459
01:49:56,880 --> 01:49:59,599
Speaker 6: of them are quarterbacks that need to study all that stuff.

2460
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 6: But you know, I just I wonder if the days

2461
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 6: are maybe a little bit shorter on the tail end

2462
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:05,639
Speaker 6: than they were under Bill.

2463
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:06,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2464
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:09,479
Speaker 6: Ye, players hanging out, fans hanging out, trying to get

2465
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 6: some autographs.

2466
01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:13,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, the players will be coming in signing autographs as

2467
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,120
Speaker 5: soon as they're done with their huddle. And he looks

2468
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 5: like they're breaking it up now. So we'll see who

2469
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:21,400
Speaker 5: we get to talk to tomorrow. Are you ready to marrow?

2470
01:50:21,439 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 5: What do you? What do you? What do you say?

2471
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:24,320
Speaker 5: It's Dietrich Wise, what are you gonna ask?

2472
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 10: I can't tell you that, because then why would a

2473
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:33,320
Speaker 10: new one stay answers. No, they're not here to hear

2474
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 10: your questions.

2475
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 5: They're here to hear the questions.

2476
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 6: I don't even need.

2477
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:38,559
Speaker 10: That's a spoiler.

2478
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 6: You have to wait and see, all right, hash tag

2479
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:42,960
Speaker 6: tea trick Wise, But.

2480
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 10: I feel like it's going to be Didrich, just simply

2481
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 10: because we saw Pop Douglas running conditioning a lot and

2482
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 10: not actually participating a ton in eleven or elevens.

2483
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 6: So I've noticed too, with Dietrich going back to OTAs

2484
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 6: that he's been out here really early. Maybe like you know,

2485
01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:58,920
Speaker 6: I don't think he was the first guy out here today,

2486
01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 6: but often what was City show was so but often

2487
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:05,320
Speaker 6: you know, Wise has been out here. You see him

2488
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 6: down there working on hand placement, the techniques of you know,

2489
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:11,519
Speaker 6: playing defensive line. But I just think he's a guy

2490
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 6: really emerging as you know, one of these new leaders

2491
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,320
Speaker 6: and seems to be embracing that role.

2492
01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:18,720
Speaker 10: I wonder how different it's gonna be without Lawrence Guy

2493
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:19,280
Speaker 10: for him.

2494
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:20,599
Speaker 6: That's that's a good question.

2495
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 10: Should lock him too. It's like not just like out

2496
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:26,400
Speaker 10: in the field, how are you gonna miss him?

2497
01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 6: But like he's yeah, no, it's I mean, it's I mean,

2498
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 6: I think, uh, I think Lawrence Guy missed two games

2499
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 6: in his time here, so you know, I know he's

2500
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 6: a little bit of a throwback player, but he filled

2501
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:41,400
Speaker 6: a big role for them, and I mean he was

2502
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:43,720
Speaker 6: pretty reliable when he was here. So it's you know,

2503
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:46,000
Speaker 6: I don't think it's the especially as he was getting

2504
01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:48,679
Speaker 6: up in age. It's not the hardest position to replace,

2505
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:51,599
Speaker 6: but it's just you know, those those guys that eat

2506
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 6: up all those snaps and you know, just take the

2507
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,000
Speaker 6: wear and tear off the rest of the line too.

2508
01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,120
Speaker 6: I don't think it's a you know, just an easy

2509
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 6: plug and play kind of replace. You're you're really hoping

2510
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:03,680
Speaker 6: that whoever's in that role is gonna be able to

2511
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:06,559
Speaker 6: be in it as as consistently as Lawrence Guy was, So,

2512
01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 6: you know, definitely one of the more underrated players of

2513
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:11,240
Speaker 6: the last few years that you know, did a lot

2514
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:12,760
Speaker 6: of the dirty work that these guys do on the

2515
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 6: defensive line.

2516
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:15,479
Speaker 10: I feel like him and Godshaw are guys that, like,

2517
01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 10: you know, you're not going to look on the stat

2518
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 10: sheet and be like, oh my god, they've done so much. Yeah,

2519
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 10: you really have to.

2520
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:24,200
Speaker 6: Just yeahs in the field a unit. Part of what

2521
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 6: I knew we heard new defensive coordinator Mark DeMarcus Covington

2522
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:29,599
Speaker 6: talked about plumbing last year that if you're gonna play

2523
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 6: defensive line in New England, you're gonna have to be

2524
01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:33,559
Speaker 6: willing to do the dirty work and to eat up

2525
01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:36,200
Speaker 6: the blocks and you know, to allow other players, uh

2526
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 6: to make plays. And you know that was something Lawrence Guy,

2527
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 6: selfless kind of player up front that you know, I mean,

2528
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:45,360
Speaker 6: like Jeremiah Farms, he seems to be kind of in

2529
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:47,559
Speaker 6: the mix. To replace him, they signed Arm and Watts.

2530
01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 6: He seems like an easy kind of plug and play.

2531
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:53,479
Speaker 6: But you know, you just you wonder with Dietrich Wise

2532
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:56,760
Speaker 6: gotcha and and maybe Barmore. Now maybe that's that you're

2533
01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 6: starting three and you've got a little bit more pass

2534
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 6: rush residence with Christian Barmore than you might have had

2535
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 6: with Lawrence. Guy. You might be losing some consistency in

2536
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:09,760
Speaker 6: the run game though, something to consider. But overall, I

2537
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:11,760
Speaker 6: mean it's a good group. I think Daniel Qualley, we're

2538
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 6: watching these guys walk off right.

2539
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:15,840
Speaker 10: Now, is another guy I'm not underrated, you know what

2540
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 10: I mean.

2541
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:18,880
Speaker 6: He's like he's not a superstar, but he's a good

2542
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 6: role player. Who can you know, again, eat some of

2543
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:24,599
Speaker 6: those snaps up and you know, allow the other guys

2544
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 6: to to really do their things. So we're watching the

2545
01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:32,840
Speaker 6: players slowly make their way off the field, and you know,

2546
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:34,400
Speaker 6: it really turned out to be a nice weather day.

2547
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 6: I kind of like, I kind of like the rain.

2548
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 6: It's nice and cool. We're gonna be pretty sweaty in

2549
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:39,959
Speaker 6: a couple.

2550
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:43,519
Speaker 5: So the quarterbacks and some of the offensive guys are

2551
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 5: still they're going to do some extra curricular work after practice.

2552
01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 6: As Drake Mays wont to do, Fred, I mean that's

2553
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 6: been him pretty much. Yeah, the whole camp hanging out

2554
01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:58,320
Speaker 6: afterwards with whoever wants to catch some balls with them,

2555
01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 6: And yeah, it's gotta just gotta feel good. Check this

2556
01:54:00,640 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 6: box off, get things rolling, you know, it's it's The

2557
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 6: next few days will probably be pretty similar, but as always,

2558
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 6: there's plays to be made here and there. You know,

2559
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:13,760
Speaker 6: you see little things that that stand out to you.

2560
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 4: And yeah, I see our crack media staff making their

2561
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:21,320
Speaker 4: way out to the field corraling guys. So hopefully it

2562
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:23,640
Speaker 4: won't be too long before we have a player on

2563
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 4: headset talking to Tamara.

2564
01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:26,880
Speaker 9: See what happened?

2565
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:31,880
Speaker 5: Happens here? No, I can't hear you.

2566
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:34,280
Speaker 6: Now that's a little This is where everybody me enders

2567
01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 6: says low to the family.

2568
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 10: No, yes, okay, now I can hear myself. I want

2569
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 10: to circle back to you, Fred. First of all, is

2570
01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 10: it bad that I can't see? Should I be able

2571
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 10: to see or should I just look here?

2572
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 5: No, somebody will tell you because I.

2573
01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 10: Can't see, like the actual field, spot my spot down there.

2574
01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:54,920
Speaker 10: I could see the field. No, I'm too short. I'm

2575
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 10: too short.

2576
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 6: You got that like an apple box?

2577
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:00,920
Speaker 10: I want to circle back to what Fred said earlier

2578
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:04,880
Speaker 10: about it being cold. Yeah, this was perfect weather, perfect weather.

2579
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:07,200
Speaker 6: But are you're from the south though, your sense of

2580
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 6: hot and cold is all warped.

2581
01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:10,840
Speaker 10: I will say, my mom and grandma are like, it's

2582
01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:13,600
Speaker 10: cold here, like it's no humidity, like compared to Virginia.

2583
01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:14,240
Speaker 10: You walk outside.

2584
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:16,400
Speaker 5: If you're a player, this is perfect perfect.

2585
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:18,080
Speaker 10: I mean this is almost like Fallway.

2586
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 5: I bet you Gerard wishes it was like it was

2587
01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:23,320
Speaker 5: a couple of days ago, you know, right, because it

2588
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:24,440
Speaker 5: was hot and humid here.

2589
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:26,840
Speaker 10: No, but I will say Gerard walked out today with

2590
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 10: this towel around his neck like ready to go, like

2591
01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:30,240
Speaker 10: it was like ninety two degrees.

2592
01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 5: Like the kid it just worked out because he was

2593
01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 5: sweat like.

2594
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:35,120
Speaker 10: He always looks like that though, Yeah, that's true. Always

2595
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:37,480
Speaker 10: him and High Tower looked like they just worked out

2596
01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 10: all the time.

2597
01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, we're still waiting for a player.

2598
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 10: Thank you.

2599
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:45,480
Speaker 9: That's all right.

2600
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:48,600
Speaker 6: I can see guys, got your Milton's signing down there.

2601
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:50,520
Speaker 5: It's a.

2602
01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:54,640
Speaker 6: Couple of mac Jones jersey. Sorry, not really nice, uh

2603
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 6: Drake may Carolina Jersey. Really it was pretty sweet.

2604
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:01,280
Speaker 10: Did Paul purposely bring a carolin on a hat for today,

2605
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:03,480
Speaker 10: for like good vibes for Drake May like he did.

2606
01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:05,920
Speaker 6: Actually, he loves Drake May. He supports. You should ask

2607
01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 6: him about it. It's entirely for uh, solely to support Drake.

2608
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 6: I think he accidentally wore it to camp and like

2609
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:15,280
Speaker 6: everybody would not let it go. It would be like, oh,

2610
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:18,840
Speaker 6: Paul support May, Like I just went to North Carolina.

2611
01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:21,200
Speaker 10: That's hilarious.

2612
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 6: And this is sad because I see my boy Jabrial

2613
01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 6: Pepper's going to the podium, So you're missing out hang

2614
01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 6: out with you can go down man, Yeah, alright, I

2615
01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:31,120
Speaker 6: just I want to keep you going, you know, keep

2616
01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 6: some more energy going until.

2617
01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:34,280
Speaker 10: You're giving us, keeping us company.

2618
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:36,960
Speaker 6: All Right, I'm gonna go. Then.

2619
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:40,400
Speaker 5: He can't help it. He loves the first one out there,

2620
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 5: as as always is the case. Uh in training camp,

2621
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:46,600
Speaker 5: friends and families come to practice, and so you see

2622
01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:51,120
Speaker 5: a lot of wives and girlfriends down there on the

2623
01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:54,200
Speaker 5: field right now, Uh, some kids running around.

2624
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:56,680
Speaker 10: Honestly, this is my favorite part of training camp.

2625
01:56:56,760 --> 01:56:58,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're just real people to me.

2626
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 5: The kids come out, Like.

2627
01:57:00,560 --> 01:57:03,520
Speaker 10: David Andrews has a new baby. No one asked about it. Yesterday.

2628
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:04,240
Speaker 10: I was so mad.

2629
01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:06,320
Speaker 6: I was like, come on, Well, it's always fun. It's

2630
01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:08,760
Speaker 6: always fun when you see like the Matthew Slater's swinging

2631
01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:10,440
Speaker 6: his kids around. But it's always fun when you see

2632
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 6: some of these kids who are like, yep, they got

2633
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:14,160
Speaker 6: they got those D one jeans. Like some of these kids,

2634
01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:15,800
Speaker 6: like their hands are already bigger than mine and they're

2635
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:18,520
Speaker 6: about two years old. You can tell not long before

2636
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:20,440
Speaker 6: some of these kids are going to be making a

2637
01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 6: push in the toward the NFL.

2638
01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:26,480
Speaker 10: It's so good seeing Slater still out here. It feels

2639
01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:27,360
Speaker 10: like nothing's changed, but.

2640
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 6: No, it must have. It'd be fun. So it was

2641
01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:30,280
Speaker 6: his first day.

2642
01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:32,640
Speaker 5: Did you notice what he was doing during practice?

2643
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:34,000
Speaker 10: Because I know I have to watch it.

2644
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:36,600
Speaker 6: I didn't really clock him too much, but I mean

2645
01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:39,160
Speaker 6: I would really love to know. I mean, he's got

2646
01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:40,960
Speaker 6: to be he's got to have the itch right now,

2647
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:42,680
Speaker 6: right like he just like it's got to be like

2648
01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 6: this is when it hits you.

2649
01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:46,200
Speaker 10: Like Fred, we should have added him to the interview list.

2650
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:49,080
Speaker 6: He would agree that would be a good interview just

2651
01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:49,680
Speaker 6: the first day.

2652
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:51,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, because because this is the first time.

2653
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:53,200
Speaker 6: On the other side, it's so many guys that I've

2654
01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:55,959
Speaker 6: talked to, like you know, retired players all levels of football,

2655
01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:58,400
Speaker 6: and the thing that they all kind of mention, especially

2656
01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 6: in the training Camberly on smell the grass. Smell the

2657
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 6: grass and start a training camp. That that's like the

2658
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 6: thing that you know. And for Slater, I imagine going

2659
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 6: out there, He's like, man, why aren't I working out

2660
01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 6: with my guy working on covering kicks, like you know,

2661
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 6: just doing his own thing, whole tutoring session.

2662
01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:16,360
Speaker 10: And just coming out and hearing the fans like cheer

2663
01:58:16,360 --> 01:58:18,480
Speaker 10: and yell your name out and numbers and like wait

2664
01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:21,640
Speaker 10: after practice for your autographs. It's like, yeah, there's nothing

2665
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:22,000
Speaker 10: like that.

2666
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, and do we have eyes on d wise? Is that?

2667
01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:31,680
Speaker 5: Well? I'm also run for where or who will have

2668
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:34,680
Speaker 5: the headset to put on the player? Like where is it?

2669
01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:40,640
Speaker 10: I think it's right there? Okay, do you see where

2670
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:42,760
Speaker 10: Steph is? It's like the very first podium.

2671
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:44,560
Speaker 5: Okay, if you look to the left, there's.

2672
01:58:44,360 --> 01:58:45,760
Speaker 10: A camera guy and a person with a headset.

2673
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:46,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, there you go.

2674
01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:50,080
Speaker 10: Now that I have an Apple box, I can see everything.

2675
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:53,840
Speaker 5: Okay. Yeah, he's standing there at the camera right, so.

2676
01:58:53,800 --> 01:58:54,920
Speaker 10: That's arms crossed.

2677
01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 5: That's where it's going to take place.

2678
01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:57,440
Speaker 6: They're ready, they're waving.

2679
01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:03,080
Speaker 5: So we got to get a player over there, okay.

2680
01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:06,200
Speaker 6: And I don't see ninety one. Let's maybe he's signing.

2681
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:08,000
Speaker 6: Ninety one is a man of the people out, he's out.

2682
01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:10,080
Speaker 5: But if he's signing, we should get somebody else.

2683
01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:12,720
Speaker 6: No, I don't see him. That's true too, I don't

2684
01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:19,080
Speaker 6: see him anywhere. But yeah, why do you see Stacey

2685
01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:20,360
Speaker 6: walking over to the Romandre?

2686
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:23,160
Speaker 5: Oh, maybe we'll get Ramondre Stevenson.

2687
01:59:23,360 --> 01:59:26,440
Speaker 10: Whenever I hear Remandre, I think of that miked up

2688
01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:30,680
Speaker 10: David Andrews when he's just walking down the sideline screaming Andre.

2689
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:32,120
Speaker 5: So good.

2690
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:35,080
Speaker 6: All right, guys, this is where I leave you. I

2691
01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 6: am gonna go down and catch some of these interviews.

2692
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 6: So hopefully you're not waiting too long.

2693
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:42,440
Speaker 10: But you have to get down there fast enough to

2694
01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:49,200
Speaker 10: ask Ja brill Pepper's a question. There you go, just

2695
01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:51,320
Speaker 10: the two of us, Fred.

2696
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:56,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, now he's Remondre stopping to say hello to somebody

2697
01:59:56,560 --> 01:59:57,640
Speaker 4: and their kids, and.

2698
02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:03,480
Speaker 5: You're really creepy. We're on player time, we are, We're

2699
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:04,320
Speaker 5: on player time.

2700
02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:07,040
Speaker 10: I'm used to this, though, Fred. I feel like for

2701
02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 10: our TV show, I have to like just wait, hurry

2702
02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:10,520
Speaker 10: up and wait.

2703
02:00:10,680 --> 02:00:10,880
Speaker 5: Yep.

2704
02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:14,680
Speaker 10: But It's worth the wait every single time.

2705
02:00:15,120 --> 02:00:17,400
Speaker 4: This is something new we're trying. We've never done this

2706
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:21,600
Speaker 4: before after our live broadcast for Camp. We've never done

2707
02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:40,000
Speaker 4: the player right from the field. So okay, let's see

2708
02:00:40,040 --> 02:00:41,280
Speaker 4: anyone getting closer.

2709
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:57,320
Speaker 5: There's Dietrich. Oh no, that's not Dietrich. Wise Okay, big

2710
02:00:57,360 --> 02:01:00,400
Speaker 5: MIC's going to the one of the podiums. M.

2711
02:01:11,720 --> 02:01:14,880
Speaker 10: It's a good trio. Pepper's big mic. And is that.

2712
02:01:20,040 --> 02:01:23,120
Speaker 5: Scott Zolac. We don't want to interview Scott. No, no,

2713
02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:26,840
Speaker 5: I'm only kidding. What's he even doing?

2714
02:01:26,920 --> 02:01:29,520
Speaker 10: He's like speed walking. He is coming to be interviewed.

2715
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:37,280
Speaker 10: This is a great spot to people watch.

2716
02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:47,760
Speaker 5: All right. I don't know who they're going to get.

2717
02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:49,960
Speaker 5: This is going to be a mystery up until the

2718
02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:52,400
Speaker 5: point where somebody walks up to that camera.

2719
02:01:55,880 --> 02:01:56,720
Speaker 10: It might be Matisse.

2720
02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:02,480
Speaker 5: We shall see.

2721
02:02:06,440 --> 02:02:09,360
Speaker 10: Fred. What's the longest practice that you've been to? Oh,

2722
02:02:09,680 --> 02:02:10,440
Speaker 10: since you've been here?

2723
02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:12,400
Speaker 4: Well, we used to back in the Bryant days, we

2724
02:02:12,440 --> 02:02:15,920
Speaker 4: used to do double sessions, so no break. Well, you

2725
02:02:16,080 --> 02:02:18,440
Speaker 4: go in the morning and there'd be a practice for

2726
02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:21,400
Speaker 4: like two hours, and then you go have lunch and

2727
02:02:21,480 --> 02:02:24,000
Speaker 4: you know, you follow your stories after that practice. Then

2728
02:02:24,080 --> 02:02:26,000
Speaker 4: you come out in the afternoon and be another two

2729
02:02:26,040 --> 02:02:26,880
Speaker 4: hour practice.

2730
02:02:26,920 --> 02:02:29,480
Speaker 10: Do you feel pads by the way, do you feel

2731
02:02:29,480 --> 02:02:32,560
Speaker 10: as though the first one was always way more productive

2732
02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:33,880
Speaker 10: than the second one or were they about the same?

2733
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:36,280
Speaker 4: Oh, that's a good question. That's a good question. I

2734
02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:39,040
Speaker 4: would say, yeah. I would say that the morning practice

2735
02:02:39,080 --> 02:02:44,200
Speaker 4: was probably tougher. You know, but back then, man, you know,

2736
02:02:44,280 --> 02:02:47,080
Speaker 4: Ted Johnson would be your middle linebacker and Sam Gash

2737
02:02:47,200 --> 02:02:49,320
Speaker 4: was your full back, and they would do these running

2738
02:02:49,320 --> 02:02:54,000
Speaker 4: plays and they would be hitting, hitting, I mean, you

2739
02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:55,080
Speaker 4: don't see that anymore.

2740
02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:56,360
Speaker 5: You don't see that anymore.

2741
02:02:56,400 --> 02:02:59,400
Speaker 10: Do you think it had a positive impact on how

2742
02:02:59,400 --> 02:03:01,760
Speaker 10: the season went having practices like that or do you

2743
02:03:01,760 --> 02:03:04,120
Speaker 10: think the way it is now is better? For how

2744
02:03:04,120 --> 02:03:05,120
Speaker 10: many games did they play?

2745
02:03:05,200 --> 02:03:08,400
Speaker 5: I don't know. I listen.

2746
02:03:08,480 --> 02:03:12,080
Speaker 4: I think that there were bigger hits back then in games,

2747
02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:15,800
Speaker 4: but you know, were there less injuries more injuries?

2748
02:03:15,880 --> 02:03:17,920
Speaker 5: I think the injuries are the same. I mean, that's

2749
02:03:17,960 --> 02:03:19,120
Speaker 5: kind of the point is.

2750
02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:23,600
Speaker 4: That you know, most of these bad injuries that you

2751
02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:26,800
Speaker 4: see players have, it's not from the contact. It's those

2752
02:03:27,320 --> 02:03:30,600
Speaker 4: non contact injuries that you know, knock guys out for

2753
02:03:30,640 --> 02:03:34,840
Speaker 4: the season. So I don't think there's any to me.

2754
02:03:35,200 --> 02:03:38,400
Speaker 4: I don't think there's any findings that say that, oh,

2755
02:03:38,440 --> 02:03:41,080
Speaker 4: back then it was better or now it's better. It's

2756
02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:45,640
Speaker 4: just different, that's all. Now you might say that maybe

2757
02:03:45,680 --> 02:03:49,120
Speaker 4: the quality of play in the start of the season

2758
02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:52,040
Speaker 4: isn't as good as it used to be because guys

2759
02:03:52,080 --> 02:03:56,600
Speaker 4: were probably ready to go faster back then. That's true,

2760
02:03:56,640 --> 02:03:59,960
Speaker 4: but then as the season progresses it probably levels out.

2761
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:05,600
Speaker 10: And how many games were they playing though, well, for.

2762
02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:09,560
Speaker 4: The most part it was sixteen, but I think back fourteen,

2763
02:04:09,640 --> 02:04:10,680
Speaker 4: I think stopped.

2764
02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:14,520
Speaker 5: I forget what year it was, but it was before

2765
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:15,200
Speaker 5: I started.

2766
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:19,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, I can't imagine like them having a two a

2767
02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:23,320
Speaker 10: day now, No, especially in this heat. Not today obviously, but.

2768
02:04:23,600 --> 02:04:26,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I could see them doing pads in

2769
02:04:26,120 --> 02:04:28,920
Speaker 4: the morning and then you know, shorts in the afternoon.

2770
02:04:29,000 --> 02:04:31,680
Speaker 4: But yeah, they would never do two a days anymore.

2771
02:04:31,880 --> 02:04:32,800
Speaker 4: Those days are gone.

2772
02:04:32,840 --> 02:04:34,120
Speaker 10: And we're fans at both of those.

2773
02:04:34,240 --> 02:04:38,680
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh wow, oh yeah, yeah. Yeah.

2774
02:04:38,800 --> 02:04:40,680
Speaker 4: There was one we were at Brian College and it

2775
02:04:40,720 --> 02:04:43,000
Speaker 4: was the afternoon session and I remember there was this

2776
02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:47,600
Speaker 4: fan and he had full uniform, he had the helmet pads,

2777
02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:49,760
Speaker 4: you know, obviously he bought it himself.

2778
02:04:49,400 --> 02:04:51,919
Speaker 5: And he's like pacing back.

2779
02:04:51,720 --> 02:04:54,680
Speaker 4: And forth on the sideline and I'm looking at him

2780
02:04:55,080 --> 02:04:57,800
Speaker 4: for the whole practice and how like he's up to something.

2781
02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:02,720
Speaker 4: Sure enough, practice ends, he jumps the rope and starts

2782
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:05,520
Speaker 4: sprinting up and down the and he was pretty fast.

2783
02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:08,440
Speaker 4: He starts sprinting up and down the field and the

2784
02:05:08,480 --> 02:05:12,120
Speaker 4: security runs out and they get him. But he thought

2785
02:05:12,160 --> 02:05:15,000
Speaker 4: that he was going to impress somebody and make the team.

2786
02:05:15,520 --> 02:05:17,640
Speaker 4: That was his thing, and it was so funny. But

2787
02:05:18,040 --> 02:05:20,000
Speaker 4: I remember watching him and saying, he's.

2788
02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:22,840
Speaker 5: Going to do something. He's up to something, And sure enough,

2789
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:26,400
Speaker 5: he jumped the rope and started doing sprints up and

2790
02:05:26,440 --> 02:05:28,240
Speaker 5: down the field in full uniform.

2791
02:05:29,360 --> 02:05:31,280
Speaker 10: See when you first said he jumped the fence, I

2792
02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:32,800
Speaker 10: was like thinking, Okay, so he gonna run out and

2793
02:05:32,840 --> 02:05:34,360
Speaker 10: try to like talk to people on the team. But no,

2794
02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:35,240
Speaker 10: he ran sprints.

2795
02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:37,160
Speaker 5: No, the team had already left the field.

2796
02:05:38,000 --> 02:05:40,920
Speaker 4: Practice is over and he just it was a rope

2797
02:05:41,040 --> 02:05:43,840
Speaker 4: and he just jumped the rope and started doing these sprints.

2798
02:05:43,880 --> 02:05:44,880
Speaker 5: It was the funniest thing.

2799
02:05:45,960 --> 02:05:47,360
Speaker 10: You've seen it all friends, Oh.

2800
02:05:47,240 --> 02:05:56,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we still don't have a player.

2801
02:05:57,960 --> 02:05:59,720
Speaker 10: See David Andrews walking, But I feel like he probably

2802
02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:00,720
Speaker 10: has to go of the podium.

2803
02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:04,200
Speaker 5: Yea with Aaron, So that could be the guy.

2804
02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:07,800
Speaker 10: That could be the guy. Yeah, which I wouldn't be

2805
02:06:07,840 --> 02:06:09,360
Speaker 10: mad at you.

2806
02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:12,120
Speaker 5: You're good with that. David Andrews if he's the person.

2807
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:14,600
Speaker 10: No, No, he's he's walking.

2808
02:06:14,680 --> 02:06:19,120
Speaker 5: He's walking by Mandri is going to putium.

2809
02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:22,080
Speaker 10: David Andrews is walking still.

2810
02:06:26,200 --> 02:06:26,600
Speaker 5: All right.

2811
02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:29,080
Speaker 10: I also can't see, like where is d Church?

2812
02:06:30,400 --> 02:06:31,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't seen him.

2813
02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:34,600
Speaker 10: Do we know who my point of contact is for

2814
02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:36,240
Speaker 10: getting said person?

2815
02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:39,600
Speaker 4: I thought it was one of it was Aaron A

2816
02:06:39,640 --> 02:06:41,960
Speaker 4: little inside baseball people don't know who we're talking.

2817
02:06:42,160 --> 02:06:44,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, who is that?

2818
02:06:44,320 --> 02:06:44,440
Speaker 5: Oh?

2819
02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:48,040
Speaker 10: Look at Gonzo? Do you see him? No, running along

2820
02:06:48,120 --> 02:06:53,000
Speaker 10: the fans like high fiving each a. He's still going.

2821
02:06:55,200 --> 02:06:56,440
Speaker 10: Joe Milton did a backflip.

2822
02:06:56,640 --> 02:07:01,400
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, here comes.

2823
02:07:03,240 --> 02:07:04,320
Speaker 10: Is someone coming up.

2824
02:07:05,680 --> 02:07:07,680
Speaker 5: Austin Hooper's a big guy, he really is.

2825
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:09,120
Speaker 10: I was looking at him trying to figure out who

2826
02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:09,440
Speaker 10: that is.

2827
02:07:11,960 --> 02:07:13,560
Speaker 5: He's a big guy for uh.

2828
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:18,040
Speaker 10: Not a lot of special teams work today, frid No, No,

2829
02:07:18,200 --> 02:07:20,800
Speaker 10: we didn't see any of that. I was a little

2830
02:07:20,800 --> 02:07:22,440
Speaker 10: bit shocked though. That's like we're going to spend some

2831
02:07:22,520 --> 02:07:24,200
Speaker 10: time doing that because they did. I feel like during

2832
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:25,760
Speaker 10: mini camp a tone, but.

2833
02:07:27,760 --> 02:07:30,040
Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on me either.

2834
02:07:32,680 --> 02:07:35,360
Speaker 4: Well, I apologize for the delay everyone, but I thank

2835
02:07:35,400 --> 02:07:38,640
Speaker 4: you for holding on. Maybe we'll get somebody in the

2836
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:43,760
Speaker 4: next minute or so. Up Here comes Dietrich. I see him,

2837
02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:44,200
Speaker 4: you do.

2838
02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:46,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, Oh, I see him too.

2839
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:53,040
Speaker 4: So I think he's headed toward our camera. So get ready, tomarra, yep,

2840
02:07:53,160 --> 02:07:58,800
Speaker 4: here we go. First he has to say hello to somebody.

2841
02:08:02,160 --> 02:08:06,160
Speaker 4: Now he's putting his helmet down and we are on

2842
02:08:06,880 --> 02:08:10,120
Speaker 4: player timeup Here he comes. They're gonna bring them up.

2843
02:08:10,160 --> 02:08:12,920
Speaker 4: I see them putting a headset. I'm gonna let you

2844
02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:14,360
Speaker 4: take over here, Tamaron.

2845
02:08:32,440 --> 02:08:34,000
Speaker 11: I don't want say anything, so you're good.

2846
02:08:34,440 --> 02:08:39,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, Hey Ddrich, how are you? First day of school

2847
02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:42,000
Speaker 10: under head coach Gerard Mayo. It's the first day of

2848
02:08:42,040 --> 02:08:42,560
Speaker 10: training camp.

2849
02:08:42,600 --> 02:08:44,320
Speaker 5: How was it at first day? Was great?

2850
02:08:44,680 --> 02:08:46,200
Speaker 11: The rain didn't about it at all. We came out

2851
02:08:46,240 --> 02:08:48,840
Speaker 11: here with really good energy starting off. They one really good.

2852
02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:53,400
Speaker 11: Everybody got after. Everybody hustled around and it turned out

2853
02:08:53,400 --> 02:08:54,560
Speaker 11: to be a good result.

2854
02:08:55,160 --> 02:08:57,240
Speaker 10: One of the big topics of training camp this year

2855
02:08:57,320 --> 02:08:59,880
Speaker 10: is the star time, which is eleven am. Gerardmeo said

2856
02:09:00,000 --> 02:09:01,920
Speaker 10: he wanted to have meetings first and then come out

2857
02:09:01,920 --> 02:09:03,880
Speaker 10: here on the field. How did it impact you from

2858
02:09:03,920 --> 02:09:05,760
Speaker 10: your perspective, God's.

2859
02:09:05,560 --> 02:09:08,560
Speaker 11: Prepared to start the day right. It didn't impact us

2860
02:09:08,560 --> 02:09:10,920
Speaker 11: too much. It's very similar to how the season goal

2861
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:13,360
Speaker 11: when we have twelve o'clock games, so it's one of

2862
02:09:13,360 --> 02:09:17,200
Speaker 11: those get up and goal type practices and nine to

2863
02:09:17,280 --> 02:09:20,120
Speaker 11: eleven didn't you phases too much? But you came right

2864
02:09:20,120 --> 02:09:21,440
Speaker 11: here and we got it done.

2865
02:09:21,800 --> 02:09:24,520
Speaker 10: You're one of the longest tenured players on this team

2866
02:09:24,560 --> 02:09:26,680
Speaker 10: to Church, you have a lot of wisdom. What was

2867
02:09:26,720 --> 02:09:29,600
Speaker 10: it like for you to come out here for training

2868
02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:30,320
Speaker 10: camp this season?

2869
02:09:30,360 --> 02:09:30,440
Speaker 5: Like?

2870
02:09:30,440 --> 02:09:32,160
Speaker 10: How different was it?

2871
02:09:32,160 --> 02:09:32,400
Speaker 5: It was?

2872
02:09:32,480 --> 02:09:35,040
Speaker 11: Actually wasn't really that big of a difference. I feel

2873
02:09:35,080 --> 02:09:37,160
Speaker 11: like I kept the same routine I've been doing for

2874
02:09:37,200 --> 02:09:40,680
Speaker 11: the last eight years. It's pretty awesome to come out

2875
02:09:40,680 --> 02:09:42,840
Speaker 11: here for my eighth year. See a lot of new

2876
02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:45,720
Speaker 11: faces every year, but everybody has the same goal in

2877
02:09:45,720 --> 02:09:47,480
Speaker 11: the same same attitude, and that's to get better.

2878
02:09:47,800 --> 02:09:49,920
Speaker 10: You don't have Lauren's guy out there in the trenches

2879
02:09:49,960 --> 02:09:52,040
Speaker 10: with you anymore. I remember coming to your locker and

2880
02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:54,680
Speaker 10: he was always right alongside you every single time we

2881
02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:57,040
Speaker 10: saw you. What's the impact like without him?

2882
02:09:57,760 --> 02:09:59,960
Speaker 11: So it's a lot different. I'm the older guy now

2883
02:10:00,120 --> 02:10:03,080
Speaker 11: in the room. He uses the older guys sharing all

2884
02:10:03,080 --> 02:10:05,400
Speaker 11: the wisdom. So I guess I took that job over

2885
02:10:05,480 --> 02:10:08,120
Speaker 11: and now I'm sharing wisdom and sharing my knowledge of

2886
02:10:08,160 --> 02:10:08,480
Speaker 11: the game.

2887
02:10:08,760 --> 02:10:11,480
Speaker 10: Who would you say, from a younger guy perspective, is

2888
02:10:11,520 --> 02:10:14,360
Speaker 10: maybe working to fill those shoes that he once had.

2889
02:10:15,040 --> 02:10:16,800
Speaker 10: Say it one more time, who would you say, from

2890
02:10:16,800 --> 02:10:19,120
Speaker 10: like a younger guy perspective in your room, that's taking

2891
02:10:19,120 --> 02:10:20,640
Speaker 10: the shoes that Lawrence guy once had.

2892
02:10:21,480 --> 02:10:25,040
Speaker 11: Uh, Well, the younger guys don't have a lot of

2893
02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:29,919
Speaker 11: wisdom as Lown's guy. Uh So in that's case, nobody,

2894
02:10:30,280 --> 02:10:34,320
Speaker 11: but I guess the other d tackles that that that

2895
02:10:34,480 --> 02:10:41,200
Speaker 11: was behind Lawrences guy, armand Watts, Christian Balmore, uh Daniel Equal.

2896
02:10:41,680 --> 02:10:42,880
Speaker 11: Those guys doing a great job.

2897
02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:43,560
Speaker 5: Tristan Hill.

2898
02:10:43,760 --> 02:10:45,960
Speaker 11: Those guys doing a great job playing three techniques and

2899
02:10:46,440 --> 02:10:48,760
Speaker 11: filling in the roads that Lawrences guy was once was.

2900
02:10:49,320 --> 02:10:51,920
Speaker 10: Well, I appreciate you taking the time with us. I

2901
02:10:51,920 --> 02:10:53,800
Speaker 10: know you have a very busy day ahead of you,

2902
02:10:53,840 --> 02:10:55,760
Speaker 10: and we really appreciate you giving us the insight on

2903
02:10:55,760 --> 02:10:56,720
Speaker 10: the first day of training camp.

2904
02:10:58,040 --> 02:11:02,440
Speaker 5: Day all right, all right, thank you Dietrich, thank you Tamara.

2905
02:11:02,680 --> 02:11:04,880
Speaker 4: That's going to wrap up our coverage of the first

2906
02:11:05,000 --> 02:11:08,080
Speaker 4: day of training camp here at you Let's Stadium. Appreciate

2907
02:11:08,160 --> 02:11:12,080
Speaker 4: everyone watching, emailing and getting involved in the show.

2908
02:11:12,160 --> 02:11:14,600
Speaker 5: We will be back tomorrow at.

2909
02:11:14,400 --> 02:11:18,440
Speaker 4: Eleven am, same BAT time, same bat channel to do

2910
02:11:18,560 --> 02:11:22,360
Speaker 4: it again, and that'll be number two day for training

2911
02:11:22,400 --> 02:11:24,280
Speaker 4: camp and we'll see what happens tomorrow.

2912
02:11:24,440 --> 02:11:26,440
Speaker 5: You're going to be in shell, so a little bit pace,

2913
02:11:26,480 --> 02:11:28,080
Speaker 5: we'll pick up a little bit. We'll see you, then

2914
02:11:28,640 --> 02:11:29,080
Speaker 5: see you then.

2915
02:11:30,720 --> 02:11:32,480
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