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Speaker 2: Peers lighting right, spend Bill barrels this way to having

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Speaker 3: These are the type of guys, the type of men

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Speaker 4: Ten or topped christ Jed Harris.

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Speaker 5: Game day is every day.

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Speaker 4: Love the energy.

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Speaker 2: Picked off by state Ley pol Trey.

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Speaker 4: Texans out the ball on the pit.

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Speaker 3: And if you want it, you gotta.

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Speaker 4: Go working now.

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Speaker 5: It's Texans all xx.

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Speaker 4: Yep, Yeah, welcome in everybody.

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Speaker 6: John Harris, your host football and outside of the reporter

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Speaker 6: for your Houston Texans, and we have got a lot

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Speaker 6: we have to cover. These are probably two days. I

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Speaker 6: think people look that's the right way of saying this.

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Speaker 6: They look forward to it. And yet you know, when

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Speaker 6: you're in the building and you see guys being told,

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Speaker 6: hey man, the dream is over, or it's delayed.

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Speaker 4: Or in some cases you know the career is over.

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Speaker 4: It's a tough couple of days.

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Speaker 6: There have been some cuts, releases, waves, players waved going

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Speaker 6: on and it will continue tomorrow at three o'clock Central time,

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Speaker 6: so three o'clock our time, four o'clock Eastern time. Texans

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Speaker 6: have to be at a fifty three man roster. Now,

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Speaker 6: the words that I try not to use, our final

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Speaker 6: set in stone. It's always a very fluid process because

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Speaker 6: then the waiver claims come the next couple of days,

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Speaker 6: trades are made. If you remember twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen

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Speaker 4: Oh, but we're not done.

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Speaker 6: Clowney got traded, so you brought back Jacob Martin, and

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Speaker 4: What did Bruce Bruce Lee want to say? Be like water?

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Speaker 4: That's the fifty three man roster. It's like water. It

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Speaker 6: As guys are released, guys are cut, guys are added,

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Speaker 6: the Bears. Texans say yes, then they're gonna claim that

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Speaker 4: So keep an eye on all of that now.

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Speaker 4: So we'll get to that in the second segment.

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Speaker 3: No doubt about it. That's exactly what it should looked like.

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Speaker 1: And you know, that was my message to our veteran

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Speaker 3: So I just want guys just supporting each other.

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Speaker 2: you are all you have the togetherness because Baltimore less

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Speaker 2: and it's going to be the Texans against the world,

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Speaker 1: And that's the type of approach we got to take,

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Speaker 4: Right it?

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Speaker 4: Because did you ever play tetris? Growing up?

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Speaker 1: Collective approach that you know, I'm really proud of our

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Speaker 1: It was it was shocking, you know, for me as

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Speaker 3: But it's it's real. It's always hard.

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Speaker 1: We know you have all these guys you're connected to,

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Speaker 3: So it's hard to kind of stay connected to guys.

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Speaker 1: So as I come ahead, Coach, I just understand you

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Speaker 3: It's hard on the guys in the locker room. Guys

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Speaker 1: But me being a phone player, I understand the toll

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Speaker 6: One of the things you said, I can't remember if

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Speaker 1: And that's the main part about it for me is

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Speaker 1: And it all goes to the coaches who have to

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Speaker 4: Right, coach, we can finally talk about Baltimore for real.

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Speaker 4: Is it full boar?

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Speaker 4: Two weeks? Looking for the Ravens on Sunday next Sunday.

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Speaker 1: the days we have to work, and you know, as

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: simulated you know, Lamar Jackson. I don't think we do,

445
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,920
Speaker 1: but it's just being able to we know, you know,

446
00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,119
Speaker 1: with the athlete that Lamar is being, with the own reads,

447
00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,760
Speaker 1: we got to have a great look on those. And

448
00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,280
Speaker 1: also just when things break down, we got to have

449
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,840
Speaker 1: a couple of plays where our defense is aware when

450
00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,959
Speaker 1: he does scramble right, what do we need to do right?

451
00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,480
Speaker 1: Where am I wearing my eyes when he does scramble?

452
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,040
Speaker 1: So we have to get good attendt in a detail

453
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:15,760
Speaker 1: when it comes to that.

454
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Speaker 6: Coach, I don't know if you were aware of this,

455
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,600
Speaker 6: but last night you did name CJ. Stroud It started

456
00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:21,200
Speaker 6: for Baltimore.

457
00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:21,880
Speaker 5: What yes?

458
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:23,240
Speaker 4: I mean?

459
00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,720
Speaker 6: Somebody asked the surprise exactly. I don't know how we

460
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,440
Speaker 6: got this far in a conversation without talking about this.

461
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,880
Speaker 6: But in all seriousness, is a young guy growing each

462
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,439
Speaker 6: time it goes on on the field. Although it's interesting

463
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 6: that his first game against New England he's two of

464
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,040
Speaker 6: four for thirteen yards. Yesterday he's two of four for

465
00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 6: sixteen and they felt completely different, and you know, only

466
00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 6: three yards difference. But the decision to go with CJ

467
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,560
Speaker 6: and be your guy, we talked about it a little bit.

468
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 4: Don't want to expand on that.

469
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Speaker 6: What is the growth that you've seen in CJ since

470
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Speaker 6: you've been around him, since he's been drafted.

471
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Speaker 1: And their growth is just starts from his first day

472
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Speaker 1: right of just getting in a huddle, him play calls.

473
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 4: Right.

474
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 3: You got to remember it's college kid who comes from

475
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 3: look to.

476
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 1: The sideline, right, they hold up a sign and you

477
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 1: run to play a picture of something.

478
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 3: And they just go.

479
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 1: So it's a whole new process, right for these kids

480
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 1: when it comes to offensive football, the NFL huddling up,

481
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,439
Speaker 1: calling plays, long play calls.

482
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Speaker 3: Coachloyd all right, it's long play calls. So it's a

483
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 3: lot that goes into it.

484
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Speaker 1: So how can you command the huddle first and to

485
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 1: see him grow in that regard of just commanding the huddle,

486
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 1: commanding the play calls, and just his play right. Once

487
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 1: he frees up from that, now he's able to showcase

488
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 1: his talent and that's throwing the ball at all the

489
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 1: levels of the football. Wherever he wants to put the ball,

490
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 1: the kid can put the ball. The ball placement is

491
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's eye opening to see where he can

492
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,639
Speaker 1: place the football and just to see him continue the

493
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 1: gain and command gain the respect from his teammates. One

494
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Speaker 1: of the most important factors for me is just when

495
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Speaker 1: the teammates, when they they look at him, they know, Okay,

496
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 1: I believe in this guy.

497
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 3: I know he can help us win games.

498
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 2: All right, Amigi Bank ask coach question of the week.

499
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 2: I got a good one for you.

500
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 4: All right.

501
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 2: So Micah is of the age where he could be

502
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 2: a professional athlete, but it can only be in the

503
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 2: NBA or Major League Baseball. He has those two options

504
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 2: and you get to pick. So what sport should he

505
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 2: be a pro athlete? And yeah, oh, well he's asking

506
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: for your advice.

507
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 4: This is in the future.

508
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 3: Basketball, your games. I can make all those games.

509
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 4: It's about the spectators.

510
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 6: Long.

511
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 4: He talk to people in Major League Baseball and they're like,

512
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 4: it's just it's still on grind go through three different basketball.

513
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,239
Speaker 2: Okay, well we'll address football another time. Coach, thanks a lot,

514
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 2: good luck.

515
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 3: Thank you guys.

516
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I appreciate coach for stopping by. It's always such

517
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 6: a blast talking with Coach. And he's got such great

518
00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 6: perspective when he talks to the team. When you jumps

519
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 6: on with us, he's he's a gym man and he's ours,

520
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 6: and that's what's fantastic about that. Also, ours is Mark Vandermir,

521
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 6: and we are gonna get together in the next segment.

522
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 6: We're gonna talk about these releases cuts waves. They're they're

523
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 6: different delineations, but essentially you're cutting to get down to

524
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 6: the fifty three man roster. A couple surprises, I think

525
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 6: to some people, you know us. We'll talk about those

526
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 6: next right here on Texans All Access.

527
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Speaker 5: Stay tuned for more on the Houston Texans and the

528
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 5: NFL on Texans All Access. We returned to Texans All Access.

529
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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, we return right here.

530
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 6: John Harris alongside the Voice of the Texans. I realized

531
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Speaker 6: this is Mark called me today. I actually have him

532
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 6: in my phone, not just as Mark or Bandy, I

533
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 6: have him as Mark Vandermir, the voice of the Texans.

534
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 6: As if I would forget, what, who's Mark Vandimir? The

535
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 6: voice that, Yeah, that's how I have you in my phone,

536
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Speaker 6: the voice the voice of I know that.

537
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

538
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 6: I don't know why I could have just put Mark

539
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 6: and I would know it's you. But yeah, so apparently

540
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 6: if I ever forget, I'm reminded that you are the

541
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 6: voice of the Texans, which I'm sure is not a

542
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 6: shock to you any anyway, because you're in year twenty

543
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 6: two two.

544
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, twenty two Yeah, I'd be in the Voice

545
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 4: of the Texans.

546
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: I started when I was ten years old, Johnny, So yeah,

547
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 2: I've been going at it for a while now along

548
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: with Andre, and you're you're in your tenth year right now,

549
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 2: and that's flowing by.

550
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 4: So here we are and it's always a joy.

551
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 2: This time I heard you talking about what this time

552
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: of year is like with the cuts, because we get

553
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 2: excited about the fifty three in the start of the

554
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 2: regular season. You and I see these guys every day,

555
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 2: so it's not like we're the meetings with them, but

556
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 2: we're around them. You see them in the dining room,

557
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 2: you see them in the hallways. You say some things.

558
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: It's been all off season with these guys. They're throwing

559
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 2: the medicine balls against the cinder block walls in the

560
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: off season, working out, and you get to know them.

561
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: We interview a ton of guys around Mini camp. You

562
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 2: get to know them a little bit in a professional sense.

563
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: And Desmond King, for instance, and Des tweeted out a

564
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 2: couple of hours ago, thank you Houston.

565
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 4: Desmond King. We like des You know he's a Detroit guy.

566
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 2: I had a lot of fun with that and him

567
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: and when Traymont Smith was here and Tavier and just

568
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 2: the guys and their camaraderie, and it's a shame to

569
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: see him go.

570
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 4: But look, it's a business.

571
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 2: And I heard other people talking about this particular move,

572
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: and I want to get your thoughts on it, because

573
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 2: I think, other than Christian Kirksey, this is the biggest

574
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 2: one so far unless I missed something in the last

575
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: hour or two. But let's talk about them all. But

576
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on this. What people

577
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 2: don't see is what the coaches have endless amounts of

578
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 2: practice tape and how they fit in to what they're

579
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: trying to do now. Plus and I'm not saying this

580
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: applies to Dez, because I got a feeling DEAs is

581
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 2: going to be working in this league.

582
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 4: But with some players it might be the end of

583
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Speaker 4: the line.

584
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that's the case for him, but

585
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 2: there might be a drop off diminishment in certain instances

586
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 2: that you just don't really see unless you're the experts.

587
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: And they're not always right either, but they see things

588
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 2: that a lot of people don't see. They've got access

589
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: to way more information than the people. You know, most

590
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: of the media, virtually all the media, except for maybe you, Johnny,

591
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: because you watch everything. So your thoughts on that one

592
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 2: in particular and what might follow.

593
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, you said a.

594
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 6: Word that I think a lot of people forget about

595
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 6: mark oftentimes, and that's fit. And you watch for a

596
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 6: little bit and you're like, oh, yeah, that fits. You know,

597
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 6: you have a nickel, you play a guy nickel, and

598
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 6: in a way you go. But you know, Demico's gonna

599
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 6: play his defense differently than love you, who plays his

600
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 6: defense different than Jim Schwartz, who plays it different than

601
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Speaker 6: Sean McDermott. Even though they're all I believe all four

602
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 6: all those guys are four man surface teams, they're all

603
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 6: gonna play it differently, and what they ask their particular

604
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 6: positions to do maybe different from what they were asked

605
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 6: to do in the past, and especially that nickel or

606
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 6: star position is and can be very very different. You know,

607
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 6: some teams want more of a linebacker safety hybrid some guy.

608
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 6: Some teams are gonna want, you know, more of a

609
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 6: cover corner. You know, if they're gonna play more man

610
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 6: to man, if they're gonna do things like that. Last

611
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 6: year in San Francisco, that nickel was Jimmy Ward.

612
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 4: They wanted to get Tellanoah Fonga on the field, and

613
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 4: to be able to do.

614
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 6: That with the other safety whose name escapes me, they

615
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 6: had to put Ward at the nickel.

616
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 4: And that was not something he wanted to do. He

617
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 4: wanted to play safety, but he did it. He knew

618
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 4: he had to. But he also had corner cover skills.

619
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Speaker 6: And so watching him cover last year in the slot,

620
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 6: which is I think the most difficult place to cover,

621
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Speaker 6: Jimmy was.

622
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Speaker 4: Asked to do that.

623
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Speaker 6: And so when I thought and I saw that from

624
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 6: last year and I thought about what they're gonna want

625
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 6: from this position, I thought, you know what, it might

626
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 6: not be the right fit for maybe either Des or tav.

627
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 4: But you've got to have that position.

628
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 6: That position has become so important, that nickel position you

629
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 6: do so much. I mean, look, Des is a football player.

630
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 6: I mean we've said that from jump. He's just a baller.

631
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 6: Is he a great cover guy? Is he a great

632
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 6: this is elite?

633
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 4: This? No what he is as an elite football player.

634
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 6: Now, there comes a point in a career where just

635
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 6: being a really good football player sometimes doesn't fit and

636
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 6: it's time to move on.

637
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:29,479
Speaker 4: And I think you're right.

638
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 6: I think this gives des an opportunity, maybe ahead of

639
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 6: the curve here, to maybe go find an opportunity that

640
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 6: might be available to him at this particular point.

641
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 4: But I think that I'll call it a position mark.

642
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 6: I think that position is definitely worth watching because, Okay,

643
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 6: Tavia Thomas is there. Now, We'll see whether he's the

644
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 6: right fit at that position, because I think Tavin and

645
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 6: Dez are pretty similar in the way they play the

646
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 6: game and what they bring to the game.

647
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 4: So we'll see if that's the case.

648
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 6: And if it's not either one of those two, then

649
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 6: what are they gonna do with that nickel position?

650
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 4: Does it become really truly a cover position? And is

651
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 4: it gonna be.

652
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 6: Something in which they want to play Cam Danceler on

653
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 6: the outside and putting Nelson or Stingley on the inside

654
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 6: and play it that way. I think that's really kind

655
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 6: of where it is right now. What's the fit? And

656
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 6: I think they probably looked at it and said, you

657
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 6: know what, we've got guys that can return punts.

658
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 4: I mean, look what Tank did last night. We think

659
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 4: we've got some athletic guys.

660
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 6: You know, Kobe Francis is a young guy that could

661
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 6: potentially be in that spot that they thought they were

662
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 6: younger that would have an opportunity. Miko said many times,

663
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 6: it's a young team, not to say you can't have

664
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 6: veterans on it, but you know, if you're a young team,

665
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 6: then you've got a guy with some upside, then you

666
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 6: got to see what you have with him. So I

667
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 6: was surprised, and yet not. You and I talked about this,

668
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 6: and you know my feelings about this. There is nothing,

669
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 6: nothing in the NFL that surprises me at all. Nothing

670
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 6: was it a little bit of a doghead turned to

671
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 6: see it like, oh okay, but not not surprised any

672
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 6: shape or form. I do think one that was a

673
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 6: little bit surprising Mark, just based on the way that

674
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 6: he started camp.

675
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 4: Was Roy Lopez. Your thoughts about Roy Lopez.

676
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 6: Being waived, And it does look like there might be

677
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 6: an injury settlement coming that he can then go find

678
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 6: an opportunity somewhere else.

679
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 4: It doesn't look like he's gonna be back in like

680
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 4: two or three weeks.

681
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 6: But Roy Lopez, your thoughts about the interior defensive line

682
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 6: position as well?

683
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: You know, and it's similar to des but in a

684
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 2: different way because he was a rookie in twenty twenty one,

685
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty one, as we all know, was a

686
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: very strange year coming out of COVID, and then obviously

687
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: the first year without the O'Brien effect because O'Brien was

688
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: fired four games into the twenty twenty campaign. Romeo finishes

689
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: it off. I know some guys stayed on staff, but

690
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: that was a brand new situation. Nick Cassario comes in,

691
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: David Kelly the coach, and a lot of the players.

692
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: Remember it was a lot of players they acquired, not

693
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: just through the draft where they didn't have a pick

694
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: until the third round, but all those free agents. And

695
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: I liked a lot of those guys, and I felt

696
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: like we were all in the fox hole together in

697
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: some way. They would probably not see it that way

698
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: with me, but there was something about those players that

699
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: I found endearing. And even though they didn't pick up

700
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: pro bowlers at every position, they picked up a lot

701
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: of good, solid guys who helped navigate through those rough waters.

702
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: And Roy Lopez, you and I remember the first time

703
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: we ever saw him at OTAs and how.

704
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 4: Biggie looked, and you know, he seemed like a good guy.

705
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: And you know that's where it gets kind of personal,

706
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: and I know the fans feel an attachment. Roy's been

707
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: great with us in the media department, putting out great content.

708
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: He did the Marty gra thing and Galves did. I'd

709
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: love to see him back on this team somehow. But Johnny,

710
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: we talked about it this morning that the defensive tackle,

711
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: the interior defensive line position is loaded with a lot

712
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: of interesting possibilities here, and when you bring in Sheldon

713
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: Rankins and Hassan Ridgeway and then certain other guys start

714
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: to flash like Davis Khalil Davis, who has been impossible

715
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: not to notice during these preseason games with a six

716
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: quarterback hits and the TFLs and everything else he's doing.

717
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: It gets really hotly competitive, and when you're banged up,

718
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: that makes it ridiculously difficult. We'll get to Kirksey at

719
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: a moment, so I guess in that way, I'm not surprised.

720
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: I'm eager to see what happens after, you know, he

721
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: clears or doesn't clear waivers. However, it all works with

722
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: the waived injured designation that's been reported on Roy Lopez.

723
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: But you know these sting but you said it, You're

724
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 2: not surprised about anything. Look, I've lived through a lot

725
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: of different incarnations of this team. You know, the Dom

726
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: Capers era still seems like yesterday to me. And Tamika

727
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 2: Riins was part of the second era with the Kubiak situation.

728
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: We heard it in the interview him talking about being

729
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: a rookie. So here we go again. But it's tough

730
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: because you know, Roy is a guy that we feel

731
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: we know. I think the fans feel like they know

732
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: him a little bit because he's been so public and

733
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: helping out with the charitable efforts of the Texans and

734
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: things like that.

735
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 6: Well, another member of that twenty twenty one defense and

736
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 6: in fact last year as well, and I think I

737
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 6: think Roy Lopez Christian Kirksey kind of fall into the

738
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 6: same category from this standpoint. They got hurt in camp

739
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 6: Christian earlier than Roy, but they got hurt in camp at.

740
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 4: A position that is extremely deep.

741
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 6: And then not only is it deep, those players at

742
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 6: linebacker and defensive line really played well. Khlil Davis and

743
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 6: Byron Coward and Kurt Heinisch I thought last night in particular,

744
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 6: were really, really good, and I think that was kind

745
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 6: of the.

746
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: Final.

747
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 6: Okay, we know what we've got with these three guys.

748
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 6: They're healthy, We're gonna you know, Roy's not gonna be

749
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 6: ready to go for another two three weeks, and we

750
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 6: feel very confident with these three guys. Now I don't

751
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 6: know if all three are gonna end up making it,

752
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 6: but you know, your top line guys are Ridgeway, Rankins

753
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 6: and the leak.

754
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 4: How deep do you go to?

755
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 6: You keep five to he keeps six, So it's gonna

756
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 6: be interesting to continue to watch that position. But injury

757
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 6: to Roy opened the door for Khalil Davis to get

758
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 6: more time. Injury to Kirksey allowed to a toe to

759
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 6: get more time, allowed Jake Hansen to get more time,

760
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 6: and Christian Kirksey also cut. He started twenty nine games

761
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 6: the past two years and one hundred and twenty four tackles.

762
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 6: You second on the team, third on the team behind

763
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 6: Jayla Petrie and Jonathan Owens.

764
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 4: He was the captain. He was the guy that kind

765
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 4: of kept things going.

766
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 6: And I'll say this Mark as it pertains to the guys.

767
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 6: You know you just talked about des king Christian Kirksey.

768
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 6: You know, Roy, they'll all kind of they'll they'll leave

769
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 6: a mark for me in a in a positive way

770
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 6: because we know the last few years have not been

771
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 6: good and those guys did everything possible to try and

772
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 6: write the ship. And I would talk to people throughout

773
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 6: the league and they would say to me, hey, look,

774
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 6: your defense plays hard. They play hard. They may not

775
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 6: be the most talented group, but they play hard, and

776
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 6: not always that matters to me. You know, guys went

777
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 6: out there. They didn't just mail it in. You know,

778
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 6: there was it was not a highly talented group. Those

779
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 6: guys went out and they balled out as best they

780
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 6: possibly could. And there were games that the defense single

781
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 6: handly kept the offense and kept the team in the game,

782
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 6: and Christian and Daz and Roy were a big, big

783
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 6: part of that. But I think the Kirksey one mark

784
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 6: and I'll get your thoughts on this. I think the

785
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 6: Kirksey one we kind of saw because we looked at

786
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 6: a talent level linebacker and went okay, I think it

787
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 6: might be ready for the new guarded linebacker.

788
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 4: I think d line with Roy.

789
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 6: I think was frustrating is that Roy was having a

790
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 6: really good camp up until the point he got hurt.

791
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and with Kirksey Johnny what is it twenty nine

792
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: starts in the last two years, and we talked about

793
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: how difficult those two years were in his leadership, the

794
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: type of person he is, the type of man he is,

795
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 2: I think they needed players like him. Plus, you know,

796
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: last year we saw some guys, Yeah, I don't want

797
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: to mention the specific names, but a receiver and a

798
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: linebacker maybe not buy in as much as they probably

799
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: could have after certain moves, especially a really big.

800
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 4: One was made.

801
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: I think that Kirksey showing that, hey, I am a captain,

802
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay that I'm gonna stay in charge of

803
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: these men as much as I possibly can. As a player,

804
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: I thought he showed is his medal in that direction.

805
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 2: And look, I know it didn't always go so great

806
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: on the field, but you're right, you couldn't fault the effort.

807
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 2: Even in twenty twenty one when they got blown out

808
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: a few times, four or five massive blowouts, they were

809
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: still playing hard. It wasn't for lack of effort, it

810
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 2: was lack of other things. And last year we talked

811
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: about all the close games, and these guys were part

812
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: of that. Keeping things close can you get over the hump. No,

813
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 2: you can't get over the hump. The offense was really

814
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: struggling last year to make things happen, particularly in the

815
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, when in this league that's when you gotta

816
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: make them happen.

817
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 4: So I liked having them here.

818
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: And when I saw that report, yeah, I wasn't surprised

819
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 2: either because of the injury situation and the depth and

820
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: linebacker right now, the perceived depth and the fact that hey,

821
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 2: we're in nickel seventy percent of the time, you're gonna

822
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 2: play two linebackers anyway, I don't know what the final

823
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: tally's gonna be on the fifty three man roster in

824
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: that position group. I don't know if you have to

825
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: keep six linebackers, right. You know, we talked about this

826
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: when you were playing a three to four sometimes you'd

827
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: keep five defensive linemen and obviously of the practice squad possibilities.

828
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: But I think in this situation, and I know you

829
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: need linebackers for special teams, but it wouldn't shock me

830
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: if they kept five. I would expect six, but it

831
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't shock me if they kept five, because I think

832
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: they need to keep ten dbs. I think they needed

833
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: the seventeen defensive lineman. But obviously they're not gonna be

834
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 2: able to do that. So yeah, I felt that way

835
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: about Kirksey too, and it's just one of those things. Now,

836
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: Mason Shrek, Nick Vannette, I saw a report on him.

837
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: Tight end is interesting here. Brevin Jordan's been nicked up.

838
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: You know, Quatreato's gonna be there, obviously, Dalton Schultz, but

839
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: it's gonna be interesting at tight end.

840
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely, And depending on how you classify Dalton Keen

841
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 6: and Andrew Beck kind of full flag tight end hybrids,

842
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 6: that's one worth keeping eye on as well.

843
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 4: I thought Dalton had a really good game last night.

844
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 6: I thought his blocking was very, very good. I thought

845
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 6: Quatriano's blocking last night was extraordinary. That's what I saw

846
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 6: of him in Oregon State back in twenty twenty one,

847
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 6: the why inline blocker that I thought the Texans were getting,

848
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 6: and then last year he's banged up. You know, he

849
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 6: started this year banged up, but you know, maybe starting

850
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 6: to kind of find that groove. You know, getting him

851
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 6: involved in the passing game will be one thing. But

852
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 6: as we know right now, according to sources, the players

853
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 6: that the Texans have released or waived, and the designation

854
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 6: matters as it pertains to time in the league versus

855
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 6: not time in the league. You know, inexperience, I guess

856
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 6: in the league. Texans have let go waved cut following

857
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 6: players Christian Kirksey, rookie Tyler Beach, undrafted free agent from Wisconsin,

858
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 6: Darius Joyner who had joined the team just recently, Mason Shrek,

859
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 6: as Mark had mentioned, also Titan Nick Vannette. That was

860
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 6: what I just saw in the last half hour, Desmond King,

861
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 6: Roy Lopez, Rashad Coward. I believe those are the ones

862
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 6: that I've seen. Now you can do the math people listening,

863
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 6: that's two four six seven. We're under ten names and

864
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 6: ninety minus fifty three is thirty seven. So they still

865
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 6: got some work to do and some decisions to make.

866
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 6: I feel like And I was kind of doing this

867
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 6: math as we finished our show this morning, Texans Monday,

868
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 6: which you need to listen to eight to ten. Indy

869
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 6: klu Andre Ware John McClain joined Mark and I throughout

870
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 6: the day and I was thinking about it. I was

871
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 6: doing a math that was like, you know, I feel

872
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 6: pretty good about probably forty four forty five of the fifty.

873
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 4: Three, but those last seven to eight are going to

874
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 4: be very, very interesting.

875
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 6: So obviously we'll keep an eye on everything tonight and

876
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 6: we'll discuss it tomorrow night as well.

877
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 4: But I don't know there.

878
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 6: We'll see what else happens. None of this is official.

879
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 6: None of this has been made official today. That will

880
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 6: be made official tomorrow, and it has to be official

881
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 6: by three o'clock tomorrow.

882
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 4: Mark, you think, and I guess surprise is the wrong word.

883
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 6: To use, but is there a position, probably more than

884
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 6: any other where there might be a surprise in your

885
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 6: estimation for tomorrow's.

886
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 2: Cuts without injuries coming into the equation. In other words,

887
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna happen with Brevin Jordan. You know,

888
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: does he go on ir that kind of thing right,

889
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: because he's got to play right, he's got to participate,

890
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: but he's got an injury. So we'll see how they

891
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: handle that at that tight end position.

892
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 4: Group. Man, I'd love to see him around. I mean

893
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 4: I want to see him around.

894
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: You know, you drafted him, you invested a lot of

895
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: time into him, and I think he's got a lot

896
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: of talent. But you look, like I said, they have

897
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: access to information. We don't have, and they see things

898
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: from a different scope sometimes because as much as media

899
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: watches practice, I mean, come on, you know they have

900
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 2: video of every single angle, all the analytics of what

901
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: their bodies are doing during workouts, how they're performing. It's

902
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: crazy the amount of data that they have on all

903
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 2: these players. But to answer your question, Johnny, I think surprises.

904
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: I thought maybe the big ones are today, but I

905
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: think and you and I can get into this tomorrow

906
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: more when you look at that secondary, are there guys

907
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 2: on this roster who you did not think we're gonna

908
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: have a chance, And maybe not you, but a lot

909
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: of players, Like does a Kobe Francis factor in big

910
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: does a grail and Arnold emerge as a guy who

911
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 2: plays a big role in that secondary?

912
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm just throwing it out there.

913
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 2: Those kinds of questions are gonna be answered soon enough,

914
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: and I think if the answer is yes, that's a

915
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 2: bit of a surprise based on where we started this

916
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: thing back in OTAs, maybe not to the coaches and

917
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: Nick Caseario, but maybe to a lot of outsiders looking

918
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: in no.

919
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 6: Doubt, it's also happening in thirty one other locations and

920
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 6: yet we still don't know what's happening with Jonathan Taylor

921
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 6: will discuss that go around the NFL next right here

922
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 6: on Texans All Access.

923
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 5: Texans All Access continues in a moment, Tixans Radio is back.

924
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 6: Yes, it is John Harris with you for the final

925
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 6: few minutes here on Texans All Access.

926
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 4: Glad to be with you.

927
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 6: As the preseason is over, training camp over. Now this

928
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 6: week gets a little bit. It's a little different because

929
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 6: the players get Friday, Saturday Sunday off, so you got

930
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 6: season premiere coming up this week. Obviously, they'll have a

931
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 6: team meeting tomorrow at some point and they'll sit around

932
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 6: or the look at who's in the room, who's part

933
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 6: of the roster, who's part of the practice squad, And

934
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 6: as we've talked about with Nick Cacio since he's been here,

935
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 6: they look at the roster as sixty nine fifty three

936
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 6: plus the sixteen, and depending on what happens with Dio

937
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 6: because he's an international Pathway player, that ends up being seventy.

938
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 6: So that's kind of the way that they end up

939
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 6: looking at it. So some things happening already today. We've

940
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 6: talked about the big ones. Roy Lopez Desmond King, Christan Kirksey.

941
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 6: You know, three major components of the twenty twenty one

942
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 6: defense and also last year they have been waived, let

943
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 6: go release depending on the time of service in the league.

944
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 6: So those have been the Ones tight end, Mason Shrek,

945
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 6: Nick Vinette's Joiner, defensive back, amongst others with shot Cowards.

946
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 6: So it'll be fast and furious tomorrow, There's no question

947
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 6: about that now or in the least. Some other things

948
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 6: are happening. The tank is fully on in Arizona. Cole

949
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 6: McCoy waved cut released. That leaves the Cardinals with the

950
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 6: quarterback depth chart of recently traded for Josh Dobbs so

951
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 6: literally two days ago and University of Houston rookie quarterback

952
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 6: Clayton toon. Now, how would that be Tank Dell tearing

953
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 6: up here with the Texans cling tune in Arizona. Wow, now,

954
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 6: could be Dobbs. We'll see how it ends up going.

955
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 6: But the Cardinals make that move. The Patriots have been

956
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 6: trading for offensive lineman, the Browns cut a kicker and

957
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 6: then traded for a kicker. There are all kinds of

958
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 6: things happen in NFL, and we still do not know

959
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 6: where Jonathan Taylor will go. The rumor is the Colt's

960
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 6: running back is discussing things contractually with Miami Dolphins and

961
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 6: another team.

962
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 4: Potentially two.

963
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 6: This one is gonna go apparently down to the wire,

964
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 6: and the wire, I would think, is gonna be the

965
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 6: deadline tomorrow three pm Central time, four pm Eastern time,

966
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 6: because the Coats want to know here they getting a

967
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 6: player back. If they get a player back, then they

968
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 6: gotta let one go. Are they gonna get draft picks back?

969
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 6: What's the compensation? All that kind of stuff. They gotta know,

970
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 6: So they set a deadline for Tuesday. We'll see if

971
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 6: that indeed happens. So Jonathan Taylor, where does he end

972
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 6: up now? If he ends up in Miami. Christian Wilkins

973
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 6: may or may not be there. Pro Bowl defensive tackle

974
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 6: did not get a contract extension and he was holding

975
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 6: in so when the Dolphins were here for their joint

976
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 6: practice against the Texans, Wilkins participated in only certain things

977
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 6: and then watched the rest from the sideline talk trash

978
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 6: and was generally entertaining because that's what he is.

979
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 4: So what happens with Christian Wilkins and the Dolphins.

980
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 6: The Dolphins end up with Jonathan Taylor, and do they

981
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 6: get Christian Wilkins to come back in some way, shape

982
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 6: or form, even though contract talks have broken down. It is, man,

983
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 6: this these two days are so there's like a high

984
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 6: and low aspect. I love all the transactions and following

985
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 6: what's going on, but I hate it because I know

986
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 6: that there's some guys the football dream is ending. In

987
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 6: some cases, it's ending forever for some of the guys

988
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 6: that have spent their lives lives looking to play in

989
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 6: the NFL and wanted to play in the NFL, and

990
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 6: then that dream is over and there are thirty two

991
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 6: teams they're saying, you know what, man, we just you

992
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 6: know it's over for you.

993
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 4: That's tough.

994
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 6: So I kind of like the I'd like that the

995
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 6: highs of what's happening throughout the league, but I hate

996
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 6: the lows for players that have now got to find

997
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 6: another occupation.

998
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 4: You know, someone will join me in the media. There's

999
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 4: no doubt some will join in the coaching realm. So

1000
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 4: we'll see.

1001
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 6: But two exciting days, no doubt, and we'll get to

1002
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 6: that fifty three man roster. Fluid be like water, as

1003
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 6: Bruce Lee used to say, it big thanks to Christan.

1004
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I go back to the studio. Chris, you rock.

1005
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 4: You know that, brother, You know that we love you

1006
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 4: and everything that you do.

1007
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 6: Mark Vandermir appreciate Demko Ryans for being with us each

1008
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 6: and every Monday.

1009
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 4: Coach A show will be in a couple of weeks,

1010
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: but we appreciate all you guys for listening. Thank you

1011
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: so much.

1012
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 6: We'll keep you updated right here on Sports Radio six ten.

1013
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 6: So keeping locked Auditseyapp Houston Texas dot Com. Anything out

1014
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 6: of Texans app, we got you covered. Go check out

1015
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 6: my big game breakdown, Ami Harris Hits. We'll see tomorrow

1016
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 6: everybody right here on Sports Radio six ten with Texans

1017
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 6: All Access see then as always, Go Texans