1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, Welcome to Move the Sticks. It's DJ 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: and my buddy Lance Zeroline joining me today as Buck 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: is out. He is on the road doing a little 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: HBCU Combine coverage for the network. But Lance, it's great 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: to see you, my friend. How you doing, budd, I'm 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: doing good. I'm doing good. I can't believe you've got 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: another mock draft out. This is I would like for 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: you to put one out every week if it's can 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 1: you fit that in from a time standpoint? You know what, 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I will do one every week. 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: I'll just send it to you. I won't release it 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: to the public, but just so I know how much 14 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: you appreciate him, so I just get you your own 15 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: mock draft on a box or what people love by 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: the way. Two things, two things. Two things we got 17 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: to point out. Well, first of all, this whole episode 18 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: is gonna be the mock draft, so we're gonna go 19 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: through the entire thing, get Lance's thoughts on it. We'll 20 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: have some good back and forth. So that's what today's 21 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: episode is going to be. But two things that need 22 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: to be said. Number one, I want to say the obvious. Here. 23 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: I have a new share. The network got me this 24 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: sweet It's a game chair, which I don't play. I 25 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, these kids have been living, they have 26 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: been living in luxury. I've got a little head pillow 27 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: back here. I feel like I'm in a cockpit ready 28 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: to fly in F sixteen. Like, this thing is unbelievable. 29 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: That's the first thing. The other thing is you can't 30 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: see it right now if you're just listening to the show. 31 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: Lance is holding a microphone like he's Whitney Houston getting 32 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: ready to sing the national anthem. No, no, he is 33 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: sitting there holding that thing right up to his mouth. 34 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: I will always love you, Daniel Jeremiah, and I e 35 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: darn right you will. By the way, your kids have 36 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: one of these gaming The thing's unbelievable, so comfortable. No, 37 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: my kids don't have. I've got to relax the back 38 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: chair that I've had, which is great because I sit 39 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: in my chair for hours and hours and hours. Get 40 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: a little lumbar support, so that's good. But your chair, 41 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta be honest here. That chair looks 42 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, it's nice. I feel like I'm sitting 43 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: on the throne here. It's it's quite the set up. 44 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: All right, let's jump in here, mock draft. I'm gonna 45 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: rip off the first ten picks, okay, Lance, I'll rip 46 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: them off, and then I think there's some discussion points 47 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: we need to have. But let me just give you 48 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: what we have here. If you haven't seen the mock 49 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: draft so far, I've got Jalen Carter to the Bears 50 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: at won no trades in my mock draft early this 51 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: early before free agency. I just don't think it's really 52 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: worth the time. So Jalen Carter defense attacker from Georgia 53 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: goes to the Bears. Bryce Young quarterback goes to the 54 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: Houston Texans, which lances being there in Houston, and get 55 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: your thoughts on that. This is a big talking point 56 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: so far on Twitter. Tyree Wilson three to the Arizona Cardinals, 57 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: edge rusher from Texas Tech. CJ. Stroud at four to 58 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: the Colts. He is the quarterback from Ohio State. Five 59 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: Will Anderson sliding all the way to five to the 60 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks edge rusher from Alabama. Miles Murphy edge rusher 61 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: from Clemson. He goes to Detroit. You've got Will Levis 62 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: here going to the Raiders at seven. Lucas Vaness the 63 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: defensive end, goes to the Falcons. He played at Iowa, 64 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: didn't even start there, which is another story. Peter Scronsky offensive, 65 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: and he goes to the Panthers at nine. I think 66 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: he would end up kicking inside at guard for them. 67 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: And then ten, who I think is the best corner 68 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: in the draft, Devin Witherspoon. He goes to the Philadelphia 69 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: Eagles there at number ten. So Lance, let's start. First 70 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: of all, we got to go all the way up 71 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: to the top. Here the Bears if they don't move, 72 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: I just attached him at Jalen Cards. I think Jayalen 73 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: Carter's best player in the draft. No, and he's got trades, 74 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: He's got Disruption from the inside to me, is as 75 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: important as disruption from the outside. In some cases, I 76 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: think it's even more important. So I had him in 77 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: my mock as well. I think that I know you 78 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: have him as a top player on your board, kind 79 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: of staying true to your board. So yeah, it makes 80 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Yeah, so that's the first one. 81 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: Then we get to Houston at two. Do you have 82 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: any sense. I know, you know, with all the people 83 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: you know there, I know there's been some change over 84 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: there in that organization, but you live there, you're obviously 85 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: a great resource. When it comes to the Texans. What 86 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: are your thoughts there bryce being the quarterback of choice. 87 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: I think they would run it up to the podium. 88 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: I don't think that would be any I don't even 89 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: think that would be a thought. The Texans made a 90 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: very popular moved. The Texans have been wildly unpopular in 91 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: the city, the ownership has been wildly unpopular, and the 92 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: owners really trying to rebrand the team. They've got new 93 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: color scheme coming in, They've got different helmets. They have 94 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: done some kind of flashback stuff to the Houston oiler 95 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: type stuff, you know, type of imagery on some of 96 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: the color scheme that they're going to have coming out. 97 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: And I think in twenty twenty four that I think 98 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: they enjoyed being lauded and the fans being happy with 99 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: the Demico High, Demiko Ryan's Higher, and I think they 100 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: would love to have the Ryan's Young Bryce Young combination 101 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: the exact, so to speak, as a brand new wave 102 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: of Houston Texans in terms of the reset of what 103 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: the perception of the Texans is. So you know, to me, 104 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: he's the best quarterback in the draft. I've heard that 105 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: the owner likes him. I think this would be an 106 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: easy picket too for Houston. All right. So one of 107 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: the things on Bryce and we've seen all of the 108 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, the cross sport discussion there and that steph 109 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: y thing has been all over the place. But I 110 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: mean I feel like, gosh, he goes to Houston. I mean, 111 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: it's right under your nose right there with jose al Tuove. 112 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: I mean, what are we doing here? I mean, come on, 113 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: where's that been? Where's that comp been? Out there? All right? 114 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: Number one, you got a lot of love for the 115 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: rocket stuff you did last time from the city of Houston. 116 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: In the last everybody loved the Rockets episode. I'm not 117 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: gonna lie love why you were talking. Didn't listen to 118 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: a word you were saying. I was. I was googling 119 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: did Mugsy Bogues or spud Web ever play for the 120 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: Houston Rockets? Unfortunately? Never? So I lost never there. But 121 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: al Twove is your guy. That's your guy. That's your 122 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: kind of a freaky production for a guy who is 123 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: much much smaller. I think that's I think that's your 124 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: comp if you're looking for a comp. But the Tyree 125 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: Wilson thing at number three, I love this, I love 126 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: I love that's the one. Yeah, because Tyree Wilson's do it. 127 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: You know you've got Will Anderson Junior, who everyone is 128 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: putting there, including myself. But the fact is, from a 129 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: trade standpoint, Will Anderson's got pretty good traits also, But 130 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: from a trade standpoint, upside standpoint, I think there is 131 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: a little bit more excitement about Tyree Wilson. Maybe the 132 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: floor is a little lower than Will Anderson, but I 133 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: could totally see this. I could see this happening. And 134 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: when you look at the Cardinal's history, now different general manager, there, 135 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: a different head coach. So maybe we don't read into history. 136 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: But from a trade standpoint, Tyree's got a lot of 137 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: great traits and he's going to be a really big tester, 138 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: a really big tester. So people wondering about this right, Well, 139 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna be taller, he's gonna be longer, he's gonna 140 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: be more explosive. I think when you see the testing 141 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: come out, he's gonna run. He's gonna probably run in 142 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: the high four fives when it's all said and done 143 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: with like some MBA type wingspan, like freakish wingspan, and 144 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: then everybody say, well, oh you're going traits over production. 145 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: Well this is different, you know, because I think this 146 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: is gonna be framed as what we had last year, 147 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: which you know, I admire the traits that you had 148 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: last year with Trayvon Walker, and we were one of 149 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: I think both of us actually were pretty early on 150 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: the Trayvon Walker train of this thing. Student's gonna go 151 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: a lot higher than you guys think went all the 152 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: way up the board to number one. There's teams that 153 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 1: are gonna be traits, you know, trades based teams. Here's 154 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: here's the difference between this year and last year because 155 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: last year at the gap between Hutchinson and Traymont Walker 156 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: in production was immense. This year, when you look at it, 157 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: Tyree Wilson has a higher pressure percentage. He has the 158 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: highest pressure percentage in the draft. If you're looking at 159 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: all the defensive lineman going to the combine, he's at 160 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: twenty one point eight percent. I have to go back 161 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: and look at Traymont Walkers. It was way low, maybe 162 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: eleven percent. I want to say off the top of 163 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: my head, but it was a lower percentage there. Then 164 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: you didn't have the sack production last year with Walker 165 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: as well, he had nine sacks. Will Anderson had thirteen. 166 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: But again he's got a higher pressure percentage, he's got 167 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: a higher win percentage. So some of the analytics from 168 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: the production standpoint actually favor Tyree Wilson. Now you're you're bigger, 169 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: You're longer, You're going to be more explosive, You're gonna 170 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: be a little more scheme versable. I think for the 171 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: things you can do. I'm saying all this, I personally 172 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: still as a player on my sequence list, have will 173 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: Anderson slotted a little bit ahead. But do I would 174 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: I be surprised in the least if Tyree Wilson went 175 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: over will Anderson. Not at all. That's why I put 176 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: this out there now. When you look at and you 177 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: know DJ, when you consider inside of a building, you 178 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: will have general managers will have their thought you know, 179 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: scouting directors, everyone will have their thoughts. Then the coaches 180 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: are gonna have their thoughts. But the analytics groups, which 181 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: are having a bigger and bigger input into the draft, 182 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: they're going to see the production stuff you just talked 183 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: about and make it projectable. They'll look at will Anderson 184 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: next to NFL players, and Tyree is not next to 185 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: NFL players. And when you start to have the physical profile, 186 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: you start to have the athletic profile, and then you 187 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: get the analytic profile. If all three of those starts 188 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: to match together, it's really not that hard to get 189 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: to a place where you could see Trayvon Walker, you know, 190 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: over Aiden Hutchinson again, you could see that scenario again. 191 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: Maybe not at the first pick of the draft, DJ, 192 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: but I think you laid it out well how you 193 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: could absolutely see this happen, no doubt as we got 194 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: in go through. So Willie Anderson ends up being a 195 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: gift to the Seattle Sea Hucks. And Omenic Kimes was 196 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: already tweeting about how excited she was about that potential scenario. 197 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: I don't think it's far fetched, especially when you start 198 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: thinking of you know, once trades coming to play and 199 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: once quarterbacks start going, I think there's a chance there's 200 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: a chance that Seattle could end up with, you know, 201 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: one of the top two players in the draft in 202 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: my opinion, With will Anderson fallen in their lap, you've 203 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: got I've got the Lions going with Miles Murphy, and 204 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: people say, oh, well they want Aiden Hutchinson and you've 205 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: got James Houston who had all that sack production. Well, 206 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: James Houston has not been a full time player. He's 207 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: been an unbelievable sub rusher. And now you have Miles Murphy. 208 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: And I think if the Eagles, if we've learned anything 209 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: from their their success this year outside of their game 210 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: on an ice rink in the Super Bowl, you can't 211 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: have enough of these guys just keep rolling them through. Yeah, 212 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: I um, you know, Murphy for me, isn't this high? 213 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: But that there really doesn't matter. He's really solid, a 214 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: very good run defender, and as you mentioned, but just 215 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: isn't it isn't hold on? Hold on? Isn't it? Isn't it? 216 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: Isn't it that kind of draft because like Miles Murphy, 217 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: I have him in the teams. But then when you 218 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: start looking at what you know, team's value in terms 219 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: of positional value, and this draft is weird, man, Like, 220 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: if there's a couple of guys in my top ten 221 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: that I have, you know, maybe ten or so slots 222 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: and lower on my list, But when you start looking 223 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: at positional value and game factor in need a little bit. 224 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a weird year, man. I 225 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: think we're gonna be saying that about a lot of 226 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: these top ten picks. Like I don't feel like a 227 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: top ten player. It's just I don't think they're going 228 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: to draft the board necessarily. I think you're right, because 229 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: I you know, I don't want to give away your 230 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: your mock, but there's a position that I don't think 231 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: is a strong position, but it is a position of 232 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: priority now in the NFL, and you got a bunch 233 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: of guys going from that position. And we'll get to 234 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: that a little bit later. But you're right, d N tackles. 235 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: You know, we'll see how your draft comes out in 236 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: terms of tackles because that's obviously a high priority position 237 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: and it's not a great tackle year this year. But absolutely, 238 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: I mean Miles Murphy, Miles is solid. He's a solid 239 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: football player, without question. It's just it's a matter of 240 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of like, you know, I had Jalen Hyde 241 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: going to the Texans at twelve, and I had it 242 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: for the very specific reason of how the Texans are 243 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: going to potentially be built. Well. Miles Murphy's one of 244 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: those guys that I'm not trying to find a guy 245 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: who's going to have this explosive juice off the edge. 246 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: I've got that with Aidan Hutchinson. I want two bullies. 247 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: I want two big bullies on the edge. Maybe that's 248 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: how Detroit wants to build their team, and Dan Campbell 249 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: wants that type of physical profile, and Aaron Glenn covers 250 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: that no doubt. So we go through the rest of 251 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: it here. Vans is another one, and we don't have 252 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: time to go through each and every one of these 253 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: things in depth, but he's going to test really well. 254 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: So the story on him finally got this by the way, 255 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: because you're you're sitting here watching this guy and it's 256 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: so weird he doesn't start, and you're going, how the 257 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: heck is this guy gonna be an eighth pick? He 258 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: didn't start on Iowa, and last I checked, Iowa did 259 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: not win the national championship last year, so people have 260 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: how in the world is this guy up there? Well, 261 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: the reason why he didn't start is because Iowa they 262 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: play their veteran leaders. So if you're an upper classman, 263 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: you're an older player, you've been there, you're going to start, 264 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: even though everybody in the building and everybody on planet 265 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: Earth knows the guy that you're you're rotating in right 266 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: after him is an infinitely better football player. That's just 267 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: part of the Iowa culture. It's what they do. You 268 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: can scoff at it, you can laugh at it. That's 269 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: that's is what it is. He is not. There's no 270 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: other concerns about him in terms of that when he 271 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: gets out on the field. You watch all the top 272 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: tackles in the Big ten, and I'm talking about guys 273 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: that are gonna go on the top ten, in the 274 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: top fifteen. This dude bullied a lot of them. I mean, 275 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: he didn't have a huge plan, he didn't have a 276 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: repertoire of pass rush moves. But he is big, and 277 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: he's explosive, and he bullies dudes out there. The only 278 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: question is going to be getting that. A Japanessa was 279 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: much more skilled as a rusher, but he didn't have 280 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: what Lucas Vaness has in terms of the explosiveness as 281 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: how this juice yea. So then we got you know, 282 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: Scronsky at nine and then ten Witherspoon. I guess the 283 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: one other thing we'll hit on the top ten. We'll 284 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: take a break when we'll come back with the eleventh 285 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: or twenty. The Raiders at seven, to me is an 286 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: interesting one. I had him taking Will Levis. They got 287 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: a rout the quarterback thing. I know there's a lot 288 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: of expectation that that could be the Rogers landing point. 289 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: But my thing is this shakes up the draft because 290 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: now if you if you make the trade for Rogers, 291 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: that's probably gonna cost you the seventh overall pick. Now 292 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 1: you're looking at green Bay picking at seven and then 293 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: picking at fifteen. And I joked with you. I didn't joke, 294 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: I'd kind of being serious, to be honest. Somebody asked 295 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: me on social media why King Kaid will get to 296 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: him in a little bit the tight end to green Bay. 297 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: So because it's what Jordan Love's gonna like to have, 298 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: You're gonna like to have a young, a young tight 299 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: end as he gets into the gets into that starting 300 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: role next year. And just kind of a little winky 301 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: emoji and let's just move on. But this is a 302 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: situation where the Packers could be sitting here picking seven 303 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: and fifteen, and that shakes up the entire draft. Yeah, 304 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: I really would, and you know other things that could 305 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: shake up the draft is where does Lamar Jackson? Does 306 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 1: he go somewhere? Is there any chance that is? Are 307 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: there any of these quarterbacks who could end up going 308 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: to Miami if they're concerned about twas health? And then 309 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: where would two ago? Is there any you know could 310 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: could The Bears could absolutely if they wanted to draft 311 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: just I mean Trede justin fields and reset the rookie 312 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: clock at quarterback. Hey, it could absolutely consider that. So 313 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: it is really you think that hold on, let me 314 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: let me stop you. Let me stop you right there, 315 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: because this has been thrown around about them doing that 316 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: to me. Fit is everything with quarterbacks. I mean, we 317 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: can talk about your skill set, and we can talk 318 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: about how we think this guy's gonna be successful and 319 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: that guy's gonna be bust. I think over half of 320 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: it with these guys, whether they make it or not, 321 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: is where they go and how they fit. I think 322 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: Bryce Young is clearly the best quarterback in this draft. 323 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: I think that is a Chicago Chicago. I don't like 324 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: him playing outside in those elements. I don't like him 325 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: playing in that division. I don't like him playing in 326 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: that weather. Like all of that stuff to me just 327 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like a good fit to me. No, But 328 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: does it feel like it if he's playing in a 329 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: dome stadium, which is what they may have with the 330 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: new stadium. I mean, that's something you have to get. Well, yeah, 331 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: we'll see, Yeah, we'll see. Last I checked the lambeau Field. 332 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: You got to go through there on a yearly basis. 333 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just it's kind of a to me. 334 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: He makes so much sense in the AFC cell. But 335 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: that's again, we can have that discussion as we continue 336 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: towards the draft. Let's take a break here, Lance, we'll 337 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: come back and we'll hit picks eleven through twenty and 338 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: see if you can't get a little upset, get little 339 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: riled up for us here as we move on here 340 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: on move the sticks, all right, Lance, Let's rip through 341 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: eleven through twenty here and then I'll open the floor 342 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: to you go wherever you want to go here. Tennessee Titans. 343 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: They get an offensive tackle, Paris Johnson, junior from Ohio State. 344 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: Houston gets Jordan Addison, the receiver from USC, to pair 345 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: up with Bryce Young, who they took with the second pick. 346 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: The Jets Big shocker here go back to the offensive 347 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: line as they continue to try and solve that problem. 348 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: Broderick Jones tackle from Georgia. The Patriots, they get the 349 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: big corner, Christian Gonzales out of Oregon. The Packers, we 350 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: touched on that briefly. They go with Dalton Kincaid, the 351 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: tight end from Utah sixteen. The Commanders go Joey Porter, 352 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: big corner from Penn State, big and long, extremely long. 353 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers. Maybe a little bit of surprise to 354 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: some people here at Darnell right right tackle from Tennessee, 355 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: big hulking tackle, Detroit Lyons a spicy one. Anthony Anthony 356 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: Richardson the quarterback from Florida with their second verse round pick. 357 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: Tampa have them taking b John Robinson, the running back 358 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: from Texas Seattle with the twentieth pick. I have them 359 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: going Jackson Smith and Jigba to kind of pair up 360 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: with Tyler Lockett and DK Metcalf. Go wherever you want 361 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: to go here, LANs, the floor is yours. All right. 362 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: Let me let me challenge your right out to bat. 363 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: You just told me that Lucas Vaness is going to 364 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: blow up the combine and he's going to move up 365 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: the boards. How do you have my guy Christian Gonzalez, 366 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: who's going to be one of the monsters of the 367 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: combine going below Witherspoon, is it? Is it fit? Or like? 368 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: Tell me why you have a guy who's going to 369 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: be one of the biggest testers at the combine and 370 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: Gonzalez following the fourteen. Well, I think there's a there's 371 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: a very real chance you could see Christian Gonzalez go 372 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: all the way up there in the top ten. Would 373 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: not surprise me at all. I think Witherspoon, to me, 374 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: playmaking instincts is on a special level. And he's going 375 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: to run in the four fours. He's not going to 376 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: destroy the combine. He's not going to be as big 377 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: and as fast as Christian Gonzalez. I just think he's 378 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: a better football player. I think he takes the ball away. 379 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: So that's why I had him going to Philly. And 380 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: when we think about fits, you know a lot of 381 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: times when you have had people in place for a 382 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: long time, it's easier to get a feel for him. 383 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: And having worked in Philadelphia and having been there when 384 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: Asante Samuel was there and seeing the way he played 385 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: and the way he made plays on the ball and 386 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: they value turnovers. I think Witherspoon plays like that, and 387 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: I think he takes the ball away. So I think, 388 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, Howie Roseman have. Having seen Asante Samuel up 389 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: close and what he looks like, I think he's going 390 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: to see a lot of that in Witherspoon. That's why 391 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: I had him going with the Eagles. And then, you know, 392 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: you bring up a good point on Christian Gonzalez. I 393 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: have him going fourteen right here. It would not shock 394 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: me at all if he ended up, you know, going 395 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: up there at the top ten would not shock me 396 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: at all because he is going to test like a 397 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: freak and he has heightweight speed. But I think there's 398 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: been other years too. When did I have to go 399 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: back and look at when Sir Tan went some of 400 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: these guys, I thought, Man, I think these guys are 401 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: top five locks, and just the way the board shakes out, 402 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: sometimes they get pushed down a little bit lower than 403 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: you might think. But did history teach you with Sir Tan? 404 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: You and I both had him as I think the 405 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: number two player in the draft. I just thought it 406 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: was hard to find any any flaws technically. He was 407 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: so so good and It's funny because there's such a 408 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: push for wide receiver. I'm I'm surprised we don't see 409 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: more corners going higher up in the draft, but there 410 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: are some pretty good corners. I want to get to 411 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: Jordan Addison. You got him at twelve to the Texans. 412 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: Are you comfortable with Jordan Addison being an outside receiver 413 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: because John macci is just a slot? Are you comfortable 414 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: with Addison taking the outside receiver spot opposite of Nico 415 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: Collins in Houston? I am, I am, I think he 416 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: can do that. I think you look at Brandon Cooks, 417 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: what's going to happen with him in the future TBD. 418 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: I know he's wanted out of there, so you know 419 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: that'll be something to monitor. But I think when you 420 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: when you come with Jordan Addison and now you team 421 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: up with Metchi in the slot, and you've got Nico 422 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: on the outside, and now all of a sudden, we've 423 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: got Damian Pearce in the backfield and we've got Bryshing 424 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: at quarterback. One of the things I wrote on there, 425 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: this becomes a watchable team. It's been not only bad, 426 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: it's been boring, which is the which is the death 427 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: knew I've been there the last couple of years. You 428 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: live there, there's nobody at the games. There's no juice, 429 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 1: there's no excitement. I think Addison, if you look at 430 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: what Chris Olave did last year, I think he's got 431 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: a chance to do a similar type of a thing. 432 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see people will be surprised when 433 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: he tests. And the reason I say that is I 434 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I was talking to Bucky about 435 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: this on the show last week, so I just didn't, 436 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, the splash plays in the wild plays. I 437 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: didn't really see that as much at USC. I felt 438 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: like I saw more of it at pitt And I said, 439 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: that's because when you're watching USC, you can't take your 440 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: eyes off the quarterback you've got. You've got Michael Jordan 441 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: out there on the field. All your attention goes to him, 442 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: and he's gonna get it to whoever's open. They had 443 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: kind of a stable of whiteouts there at USC, and 444 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: the throws are so incredible that it's not really it's 445 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: not really a show off offense, if that makes any 446 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: sense at all. For Jordan Addison there at USC, I 447 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: think he is a really good player. I think He's 448 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: a refined route runner, and I think he has ability 449 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: to get over the top. You know, the Packers. I 450 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: love the idea of wide receiver there. I put Jalen 451 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: Hyatt there for a very specific reason. Elite elite speed 452 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: will open up the underneath for Metchi and Collins give 453 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: Bryce Young like but our idea is the same thing. 454 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: You've got to create more explosiveness from the offense. And 455 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: I think I think it's not a bad mode to 456 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: go quarterback if you go Bryce Young or c. J. 457 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: Stroud or whoever at two, to go wide receiver with 458 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: that next pick, because this is what you want. You 459 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: want Bryce Young to be able to learn and grow 460 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: with the young receiver, and I think that's a good idea. 461 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: I like Dalton Kincaid at number fifteen. I mean, you know, 462 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: I've got Musgrave here, but it's the same thing. You 463 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: and I are on the same page. A pass catching 464 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: tied end is a wide receiver. They are a receiver, 465 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: They're a target, and they should be valued as such 466 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: when they are special. My favorite pick though, is Darnell 467 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: right to the Steelers. I mean, this is such a 468 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 1: Steeler pick. They love getting big bodies. They don't have 469 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: to be the most fluid dancing Bears. But I mean 470 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: that in a positive way too. Darnell Right, when he 471 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: gets his hands on you, he is just he's really 472 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: tough to deal with. And Darnell Right just feels like 473 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: a very Steelers pick. And I don't mean that in 474 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: a I mean that in a good way. This feels 475 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 1: like the move that the Steelers would make. Yeah to me, 476 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: I just look at that offensive line's gonna get revamped. 477 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: You know how many new starters that is? I don't know, 478 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: two three, But I think this is a good draft 479 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: to be able to do it. And if you look, 480 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: you remember they have a thirty second pick, which every 481 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: other year is a first round pick, except this year 482 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: the Dolphins having forfeit a pick, we only have thirty 483 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: one picks in the first round. What a trade. What 484 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: a heist that was in the Chase Claypool trade with 485 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: the Bears that gives them pick number thirty two. But 486 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: when you look at this is what we you know 487 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: you do in the draft room. If you say, Okay, 488 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: we wanted a couple offensive linemer, we want an offensive 489 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: liner in a corner, I think it makes more sense 490 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: to get the tackle first, whoever your tackle is, because 491 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: I think you're still going to have corner options. I 492 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: think you're still gonna have interior offensive line options at 493 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: thirty two that you're going to really like. I don't 494 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: like the tackle options so much at thirty two at 495 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: that point in time. That's why I think you go 496 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: tackle first, get the priority there, and then come back 497 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: get your interior linement or your corner thirty two. Well, 498 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: the next conversation we have to have as Anthony Richardson 499 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: at the Lions, and obviously I think this is a 500 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: great spot because you've got Jared Goff, who right now 501 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: is you've got another year with him that you can 502 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: play him. Anthony Richardson clearly needs to sit, he needs 503 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: to learn, He needs to be in a situation behind 504 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: the veteran, and you hope that the veteran will work 505 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: with him. You know, that's always the kind of the 506 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: wild card, is the veteran. We'ill going to work with 507 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: a guy who's going to eventually take his job. You know, 508 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: you just you never know how that's going to pan out. 509 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: But I think having Richardson behind mind Jared Goff and 510 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: utilizing him in certain packages next year. All it does 511 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: is make the offense a little more difficult to prepare 512 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: for during the week when you know there's a Richardson 513 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: package out there. And then it gives him a chance 514 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: to really grow up and learn the mechanics. And when 515 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: I say grew up, grow up as a quarterback, you know, 516 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,239 Speaker 1: learn the mechanics. One of the most interesting things on 517 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: tape for me DJ is you go watch the Utah 518 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: game and you go, holy crud, Anthony Richardson looks fantastic 519 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: against Utah, but he had all summer to prepare it. 520 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: But the technique, the mechanics were good. I thought the 521 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: poise was good. And as the season progressed, he lost 522 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: a lot of that. But what it tells me is 523 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: he's teachable, like he can get to that. What you're 524 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: trying to do is you're trying to see during the 525 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: season is it sustainable and you have to have sustainable 526 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: in seventeen weeks of NFL football. But that Utah game 527 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: is a great example of how the preparation and really 528 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: drilling down on mechanics it worked for him. It just 529 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: kind of got away from him as the season went on, 530 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: and that's why he needs a year to sit, and 531 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: this is a good spot to sit for a year. Yeah. Yeah. 532 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: To me, I think it's a good cocoon for him 533 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: to not have to go out there, do not have 534 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: to be rushed onto the field. I think when you 535 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: look at the coaching staff that they have there, I 536 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: think Ben Johnson coming back as the offensive coordinator, did 537 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: a nice job with Jared Golf last year. I think 538 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: he's going to be somebody you trust to develop him 539 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: and take your time. I feel like people convenient and 540 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm not comparing comparing him by any stretch to Patrick Mahomes, 541 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: but I think people conveniently forget about the fact that 542 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: he's sat. I don't know why that is, but I 543 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: feel like people think he was just instantly, you know, 544 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: unbelievable right when he got there, And we showed some 545 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: combine footage the other day and you could watch his 546 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: footwork from the combine and then watch where he is now. 547 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: Obviously that year benefited him tremendously, and now he goes 548 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: off and he's the best player. He might go down 549 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: as the best player of all time when it's all 550 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 1: said and done. I'm not putting all that on Anthony 551 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: Richardson I'm just saying this is a great spot for 552 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: him to go sit and develop and really just drill 553 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: down on fundamental in the passing game. And then once 554 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: you get him out there, you've got a chance. Man, 555 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: it's a lottery ticket. You've got two first round picks, 556 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: and I think if you're going to try and make 557 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: a push, you got to take a risk at some 558 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: point in time in the evaluation process and the team 559 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: building process. I think this is a good spot to 560 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: go ahead and get yourself a lottery ticket. When you 561 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 1: have two picks, you always have the ability to do 562 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: two things. That is, draft a running back in the 563 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: first which is usually frowned upon, and find a developmental 564 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: quarterback who can sit down for a year. It gives 565 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: you that you still got one of the picks you needed, 566 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: and it gives you another one. Would that I think. 567 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: I think it's a big advantage you have two picks 568 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: in the first round because it allows you to make 569 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: I think potentially smarter football moves for your team relative 570 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: to having two picks as opposed to one. Question for you, though, 571 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting You brought something up with 572 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: footwork with Pat Mahomes. So footwork can get better. Some 573 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: of the mechanics of arm slot and things like that 574 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: that can get better, although as they say, when the 575 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: bullets fly and the muscle memory kicks in a lot 576 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: of times you revert to, you know, bad habits. I 577 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: want you to talk for a second, and you're you're 578 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: a quarterback, and just what you've seen from quarterbacks over 579 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: the years. Because the topic we're gonna get into is 580 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: Levis and Richardson and Josh Allen. Oh, you can just 581 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: fix McKay. You can just fix inaccuracy. You can fix 582 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: accuracy issues. I think you can fix footwork stuff. I 583 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: don't know how fixable accuracy actually is. Well. I mean 584 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: and look and you can look at Josh Allen's accuracy 585 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: numbers and they spiked tremendously with with some improvements to footwork. 586 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: I think that you can. I've come around that a 587 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: little bit. I do think that you can get better 588 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 1: in accuracy. In terms of some of those things. I 589 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: think the areas that I would say are harder to improve. 590 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: Or if everything that you throw is the same throw 591 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: as you're a line drive throw or you're a power throw, 592 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: or you have no touch, you can't layer the football. 593 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: I think that becomes more difficult because that's a feel. 594 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: It's a feel thing. You kind of have a feel 595 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: or you don't have a feel. I thought, Josh Allen, 596 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 1: you could see you could see layer throws from him, 597 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: You could see up and down throws over linebackers under safeties, 598 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: shows that he had a feel and a touch on 599 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: the ball. He literally need to be reworked on the 600 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: bottom half and I think he did a good job 601 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: of that. And I think that leads to another whole 602 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: discussion which we could get off track, in terms of 603 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: where you go and him going there with Brian day 604 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: Ball and having a chance to watch him get better 605 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: each and every year. It was huge. Patrick Mahomes going 606 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: to Andy Reid getting better each and every year, that 607 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: was huge. Where you go is such a big part 608 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: of this thing, man, whether or not you're going to 609 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: hit or miss, or the level of success that you're 610 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: going to reach. You saw with Daniel Jones. Look at 611 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: that improvement Daniel Jones made from one year to the 612 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: next with with with Brian day Ball there in that building. 613 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: That matters, man. But to get back to your point 614 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: to me, if you don't have touch, that's hard to 615 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: improve and then the other thing I would say is awareness, 616 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: pocket awareness, pocket feel. There's plays where you can see 617 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: and I could you know, point him out, and you've 618 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: seen the same ones with Bryce Young where Bryce Young 619 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: is trained, he's working the right side of the field. 620 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: He is trained to the right side of the field, 621 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: and he gets a free rusher coming backside. His head 622 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: never never goes left. He just feels it. He kind 623 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 1: of drifts away from it, or he'll climb up and 624 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: get free. Will Levis like, that's one of the things 625 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: that I am concerned about him. He gets absolutely stroked 626 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: in the pocket where he has no sense or feel 627 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: that it's coming, and it's like a surprise party every 628 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: single time he gets hit like that. That to me 629 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: is that's one of those things that's a little trickier 630 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: in terms of whether you can develop that or not. 631 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: That's a lot too. I mean, there's a lot to 632 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: cover there. And I think looking back at Josh Allen, 633 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: I've said this to people because I went back and 634 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: looked at what wasn't I missed on Josh Allen. But 635 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 1: number one, he didn't have good receivers right, they couldn't 636 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: separate at all. But he was late with the ball 637 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: getting out. He didn't throw on time and so there 638 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: was an inordinate amount of contested catches. So did he 639 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: have accuracy? And he is a more common implicated study 640 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: because yes he had footwork issues, he had mechanical issues. 641 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: But I think there's something called natural accuracy or A 642 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: to B accuracy that you see with pictures. There are 643 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: some pictures that can put it wherever they want, and 644 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: there are some who are always going to have issues, 645 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 1: you know, mentally or physically. Their mechanics will get off, 646 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: they're not self correctors, and they will start to spray 647 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: the ball around the strike zone. I think it's the 648 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: same thing with football. I have a real concern over 649 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson and Will Levis with their natural A to 650 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: B accuracy. It's a concern for me. Bryce Young can 651 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: be a little up and down at times, but he's fine. 652 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: C J. Stroud's actually to me one of the most 653 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: accurate you know passers on frame to the hands where 654 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: they should be. He really is like, I'm not worried 655 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: at all about that. But yes, you look at the 656 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: footwork and things like that, but that doesn't mean it's 657 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: an automatic fixed Because some guys just don't have the 658 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: hand eye to put it where they need to put 659 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: it on a consistent basis. But everything you said makes 660 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: sense too, because that's all part of it. And that's 661 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: why quarterback, that's why it's so hard to project these 662 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: guys because we didn't even get into the mental part 663 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: of it and the intangibles part of it, which is 664 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: a huge part of playing quarterback. Yeah, and to me, 665 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: with quarterbacks, when you when you talk to people around them, 666 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: it needs to be superlative, superlative, superlative in terms of 667 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: work ethic, commitment, the time spent preparing. That's just to 668 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: give yourself a chance. That doesn't guarantee you're going to 669 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: be good. That guarantees you have a chance to be good. 670 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: And so that's one of those areas where and I 671 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: don't get into that when i'm you know, when talking 672 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: about these players, I just don't think it's I don't 673 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: think it's helpful. I don't think it's constructive. It's not 674 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: something I ever want to partake in. But there have 675 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: been times where people would say, I don't understand why 676 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: you were a little bit lower on this guy, And 677 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,959 Speaker 1: it's like, well, because when I talk to the coaches. 678 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: They say he's not putting in the time you need 679 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: to put in there. He can, he can mask it 680 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: at the college level. You got no chance at the 681 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: NFL level if there's not a serious, serious commitment. YEA, 682 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: So all right, let's let's take a break. We'll come back, 683 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: we'll finish this thing up. We'll go twenty one to 684 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: thirty one and get Lance's thoughts and then and we'll 685 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: get out of here. I hope you guys are enjoying this. 686 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. We'll polish up mock draft two 687 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: point zero right after this. All right, Lance, let's jump 688 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: back in. Let's wrap this thing twenty one to thirty one. 689 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: I've got Quinton Johnston height, weight, speed receiver from TCU 690 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: going to the Chargers at twenty one. I've got Brian 691 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: branch Nickel safety going to the Ravens at twenty two, 692 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings at twenty three. Deonte Banks, big tall, athletic 693 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: corner from Maryland twenty four the Jags. Brian Breecy very 694 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: polarising player, especially on social media. For some reason, Clemson 695 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: defensive tackle will go onto the Jags. Twenty five. I've 696 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: got Jalen Hyatt a speedster from Tennessee. White out given 697 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: them some much needed juice. Twenty six the Cowboys keyon White, 698 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: defensive lineman from Georgia Tech. Twenty seven Buffalo Bills Osyrus Torrence, 699 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: one of the safer picks my mind, from Florida interior 700 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. The Bengals, they get Michael Mayer, a big 701 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: tight end from Notre Dame. At twenty nine, the Saints 702 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: go Zay Flowers, one of my favorite players to study 703 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: in this draft, the wide out from BC. Thirty the 704 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: Eagles take defensive lineman Felix and a Duque Ozama from 705 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: Case State. Very productive a zillion forced fumbles there for 706 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: the Wildcats. And then Kansas City, the defending champs. Thirty one, 707 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: I have them taking Nolan Smith, edge rusher from Georgia. 708 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Lance, what do you think? All right? So 709 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: right off the bat you call the Charger games. I 710 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: always feel like that's interesting. You look at all these prospects, 711 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: so seeing Johnston pair, but the Chargers, I immediately, you know, 712 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: pay attention to that as somebody who puts a mock 713 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: draft together, although you certainly work off of how the 714 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: mock draft you know, shakes out before you get to 715 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: that pick, is there another player that you think fits 716 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: what the another wide receiver? I guess you'd just be 717 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: looking at I mean, man, just Jordan at basically we're 718 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: only talking Jordan Addison or or Smith and Jigba. Is 719 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: there any chance of Smith and Jigba would be someone 720 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: because he doesn't have a lot of speed, He's more 721 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: in the mold of a Keenan Allen. Is that somebody 722 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: that the Chargers would look at? Or do they want 723 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: more juice like Johnston has? I feel like this team's 724 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: got to get faster. They need somebody. You know, Mike 725 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: Williams can get vertical and make contested catches vertically, but 726 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: in terms of just blowing the top off of a defense, 727 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: they don't really have that guy. And we'll see what happens. 728 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: I mean, Keenan Allen's got a big cap number. Is 729 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: he going to be on this team next year? You know, 730 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: wait and see. So that's gonna kind of shake things 731 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: up in terms of what they're looking for. You've got 732 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: Josh Palmer, who I really likes, a really good player. 733 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: I think he could kind of function in that role, 734 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: in the Keenan Allen role. And then you've got Mike 735 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: Williams doing his thing with contested catches and run after 736 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: catch what he brings to the table. But I think 737 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: getting somebody to get vertical. I mean, there's been so 738 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: much criticism of this offense and justin Herbert for not 739 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: pushing the ball down the field. Well, when you don't 740 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: have speed, it's you know, it's hard to push the 741 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: ball down the field. So that's imperative and that's why 742 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: you can look at also, you know, Jalen Hyatt is 743 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: a little bit undersized and not gonna be kind of 744 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: that that physical frame that you look at that Tom 745 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: Telesco has traditionally gone. After all, the guys he brings 746 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: in there at the receiver position are big targets. So 747 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: I think you get a little bit of both here 748 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: with Johnston. Now, I'm going to talk about this on 749 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: my conference call on Friday, which will which will be 750 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: a podcast as well. But man, there is a study 751 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: that we had that Jack Andre did for us, our 752 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: buddy and research on big twelve wide receivers drafted in 753 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: the last eight years. Not good. We'll get into it. 754 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: I'll tease that because we'll get into that later. But 755 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: that's gonna be something that it's gonna be interesting to 756 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: see what happens with Johnston's draft draft value because it 757 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: is a trail of tears. When you look at big 758 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: twelve wide receivers. What else stands out to you here? Well, 759 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: it's not too late for you to flip flop twenty 760 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: five and twenty one. Um, Brian Branch. I mean, oh 761 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: my gosh. If the Ravens got tough, smart and versatile 762 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: with this spot, I would absolutely like that would be 763 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: a phenomenal draft for them. Brian Branch's ability to play 764 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: in the nickel You called him a nickel safety. I 765 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: mean he's tough, he'll come up and support the run. 766 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: He's got great mirror and match footwork. I mean he 767 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: plays like a legitimate cornerback. And he's very smart and 768 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: instinctive as well. That's why he's one of my favorite 769 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: players in this draft. And I love that pick at 770 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 1: twenty two. I mean, I feel like it's not fair 771 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: for me to immediately think back to Taven Brian when 772 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: I see you put Brian Breesey there. But I'll just 773 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: leave that there. And I think that's why they're so 774 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: I think that's I think you or I think there's 775 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: there's an idea, subconscious bias there. And I want to 776 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: know how much of this was Okay, so two picks. 777 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 1: I want to get to that. I'm interested in, um, 778 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: how much of this mock draft because a lot of 779 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: my first mock draft really had a lot to do 780 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: with how I see players for Right now, Um, you've 781 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: got Felix and Udique Usama at number thirty, and I 782 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: know you and I both like him. I've got him 783 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 1: more of a little bit of a second round grade, 784 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: but he's a pass rusher, but I made he is 785 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: so urgent and physical and his motor is fantastic. I 786 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: like that you put him in there. That's a new 787 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: name there. And Nolan Smith. I know you're a big 788 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: Nolan Smith guy more than I am, but I liked it. 789 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: I feel like you stood on your rankings there by 790 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: going thirty thirty one with some guys that you thought 791 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: maybe needed a little more love early. Yeah, once we 792 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: get to the bottom of the first round, or sometimes 793 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: you just want to get some names in there, get 794 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,439 Speaker 1: him in the mix. And I think both those guys 795 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: are really good players. I enjoyed watching and I just 796 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: I keep coming back to the same thing when you 797 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: when you're a team's picking at the bottom of the 798 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: first round. You're close, right, you are. You can see it. 799 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: You can see a championship in the Chiefs case, so 800 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: obviously they won the whole thing. But I think when 801 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: you look at those teams, the thought process is different, right, 802 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: It's we're right there, and you know what you're thinking. 803 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: You're thinking, gosh, you look back at that one playoff game, 804 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: if we could have just got off the field that 805 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: one time on third down. I'm looking for guys that 806 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: can get to the quarterback, and I'm for players on 807 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: offense that can maybe just give me that one conversion, 808 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: could we could we finish a drive because we're right there. Man, 809 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: If I've got to beat Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow 810 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen in the AFC, I gotta get guys 811 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: that can get them on the ground, and I've got 812 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: to get guys that can give me some firepower so 813 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: I can keep up with them. I think that changes 814 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: how you evaluate guys, and it might just be you 815 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: know what, this guy, maybe we had a linebacker grade 816 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: and really high, or we've got a guard that we 817 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: really like as our highest rated player. But man, we're 818 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: right there, and who's going to help us beat Patrick 819 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: Mahomes and Josh Allen and Joe Burrow and all the 820 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: other guys you got to go through. I think that 821 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: that changes you're thinking a little bit. I think that's 822 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: a great point, and it maybe speaks to the fact 823 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: why Ozzie Knewsom has been such a great draft. He's 824 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: not sitting there in the top five. And yet look 825 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: at what the Ravens in general, look at what the Steelers, 826 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: the Eagles, look at how these teams have built without 827 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: having early round picks. I think it's because a they 828 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: know who they are on both sides of the ball typically, 829 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: and b they are able because when you build a 830 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: more talented roster, it gives you a chance to draft 831 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: a guy who may not be ready by it right now, 832 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: but you know their upside is way up here. Where 833 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: teams who are teams who are drafting earlier, they need 834 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: to win now. They need some now guys and general 835 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: managers are on the hot seat and head coaches are 836 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: on the hot seat, and they need to find guys 837 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: who can who can splash immediately, and they start maybe 838 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: sacrificing the long term upside and projectable traits for guys 839 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: who are more maybe maxed out and can help right away. 840 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 1: And and that's kind of what you're doing here at 841 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 1: thirty at thirty with the Eagles, is that's the guy 842 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: with traits and you can see he's gonna keep getting better. 843 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a player who's going to keep getting better. 844 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: But um, you know, there's there's gotta be a reason 845 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: everyone talks about tanking, tanking, tanking. If you study the 846 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: history of the draft as as you do DJ, you 847 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: know that it's really Maybe in basketball it's one thing, 848 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 1: but in football, tanking doesn't really do anything for you. 849 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: The good valuetions are what win games. The only thing 850 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: I would argue on that is maybe the Jets shouldn't 851 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: have won that one game that costs the Trevor Lawrence. 852 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: That's the one that I can think of for sure. Yeah, 853 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: all right, this has been fun, man, Lance. I appreciate 854 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: you filling in. We've got one more episode coming this week, 855 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: which will be the conference Call. I've got a conference 856 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,720 Speaker 1: call on Friday, will be answering the a zillion draft question, 857 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: so that will be turned into a podcast, and then 858 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: we're off to Indy. We'll be in Indianapolis and tons 859 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: of content coming your way here on Move the Six. Lance, 860 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 1: You're the best buddy. Thanks for being my late night 861 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: phone call here. There's been some long nights here watching 862 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: all these players. We're kind of in the same boat, 863 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 1: but it's something I always enjoy. Appreciate your friendship and 864 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: appreciate all your hard work. Man. You got a DJ, 865 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna do it for us. Hope you 866 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: guys have enjoyed this one. We will be back with 867 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: one more episode that will be on Friday. Be on 868 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,959 Speaker 1: the lookout for that until then, have a great week 869 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: and we'll see it back right here on Moving the Six. 870 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: Do you want total? Want you talk