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Speaker 1: From the berkshears to the sound from wherever you live

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Speaker 1: in MLB America. This is Inside the Parker. You give

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Speaker 1: us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop

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Speaker 1: on major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: voter number fifty seven, Rob Parker.

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Speaker 2: Come on, I've been covering Major League baseball for almost

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Speaker 2: forty years now, in New York, in Cincinnati, in Detroit,

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Speaker 2: in LA.

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Speaker 3: I love this game. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the podcast. I'm your host, Rob Parker. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know, not sounding great, but so much to do,

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Speaker 2: so little time. On this off season edition of Inside

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Speaker 2: the Parker. Coming up, we're gonna talk with Dodgers reporter

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Speaker 2: David Vasse from AM five seventy LA Sports, home of

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers. We'll talk about the big Kyle Tucker signing.

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Speaker 2: We'll also talk about Bobushett joining the Mets, and I'll

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Speaker 2: reveal my Baseball Hall of Fame ballot.

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Speaker 3: We'll dive into that and much more. Let's go better.

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Speaker 1: Up to lead off, it's getting.

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Speaker 3: Rocked to keep them mind. Rob's hot take on.

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Speaker 1: The three biggest stories in Major League Baseball. Number one, the.

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Speaker 3: Dodgers are the Evil Empire.

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Speaker 2: I've been saying it for years, not just after this

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Speaker 2: latest signing. And I know a lot of people in

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Speaker 2: baseball are mad, and they hate the idea that a

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Speaker 2: team that's won back to back World Series goes out

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Speaker 2: and sign one of the top free agents gives them

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Speaker 2: a sixty million dollar contract as deferred money, sixty million

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Speaker 3: I just I get it. It looks diabolical.

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Speaker 2: It feels like it's not fair for the other teams.

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Speaker 2: But the Dodgers didn't run away with anything last year.

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Speaker 2: They actually scuffled. They were you know, it was up

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Speaker 2: and down. I don't, I don't. I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: anything automatic when it comes to baseball. Yes, they've won,

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Speaker 2: they shouldn't have. I mean, if you take a real

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Speaker 2: look at two years ago, the Padres had them dead

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Speaker 3: And then they win last year when they shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: The Blue Jays had about a million chances to knock

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Speaker 2: in the winning run and win that World Series, and

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Speaker 2: they couldn't do it, and they left the door open,

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Speaker 2: and the Dodgers came back and get a improbable ninth

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, you could do that play.

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Speaker 2: We played at a million times and nine hundred and

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Speaker 2: ninety nine thousand times. He wouldn't, he wouldn't hit a

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Speaker 2: Dodgers won. Is just, oh my god, the death of baseball.

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Speaker 2: I've heard this forever since Andy met Smith was the

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Speaker 2: first free agent that signed with the Atlanta Braves back

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Speaker 2: in the seventies. The game will adapt, you know, You'll

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Speaker 2: see what happens. I don't think that it's the end

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Speaker 2: of anything or the end of competition. We talk about

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Speaker 2: it all the time. The other sports have salary caps

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Speaker 2: and the same teams win. Got to have a smart

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Speaker 2: to health. There's so many factors that play in. The

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Speaker 2: Dodgers had a long drought. The Yankees are having a

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Speaker 2: long drought. They have money. The Mets haven't won a

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Speaker 2: World Series since nineteen eighty six. They had the second

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Speaker 2: highest payroll a year ago. Does it really they didn't

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Speaker 2: gonna be the sky is falling on the Dodgers free

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Speaker 2: lose a big salary Clayton Kersh are retired. Why shouldn't

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Speaker 2: They may have missed out on Kyle Tucker, he was

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Speaker 2: definitely on their radar. They definitely apparently, or I should say, reportedly,

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Speaker 2: they have, according to reports, agreed on a three year,

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Speaker 3: Bobashett is named after Bo Jackson.

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Speaker 3: But he's going to the Mets.

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Speaker 2: This deal includes two opt outs and of course, pending

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Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know this.

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Speaker 2: This feels weird, like this was like a backup plan.

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Speaker 2: Did the Mets really need to go after bobashett a

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Speaker 2: But after losing out on the Kyle Tucker sweep States,

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Speaker 2: where Cody Bellinger winds up in free agency as well.

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Speaker 3: Number three, attention, Baseball Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: My ballot is not n ot a protest ballot.

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Speaker 3: Some people think it is because I voted for No.

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Speaker 2: Carlos beltram And you don't have a vote for anybody. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: I don't, not even King Felix. A lot of these

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Speaker 3: I just think there's a lot of very good players.

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Speaker 2: But this isn't the very good Hall of Fame. It

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Speaker 2: have to debate a Hall of Famer, I keep saying it.

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Speaker 2: greats of the greats. No, there's no debate. That's where

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Speaker 3: A lot of these guys belong in their teams halls

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Speaker 2: Which is fine, the Yankees are petitives in the monument

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Speaker 2: World Series. I'm not mad at that. Jimmy Rollins, Chase

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Speaker 2: Another guy with the twins, right Angels, They loved that guy.

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Speaker 2: I haven't mentioned him, but no one on my ballot

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Speaker 1: When Rob was a newspaper columnist, he lived by this motto,

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Speaker 1: if I'm writing, I'm ripping. Let's bring in a writer

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Speaker 1: or broadcaster, old or new.

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Speaker 3: Now, let's welcome in David Vasse. He covers the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: For AM five seventy LA Sports in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: Dave, welcome to the pot. How are you happy New Year?

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Speaker 3: My friend?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Larry David would say you're a little late on

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Speaker 4: that one, Rob Parker, but happy New Year.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's the first time I've talked to you, and

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Speaker 2: I know it's the sixteenth of January.

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Speaker 3: Probably the first week is about the real limit.

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Speaker 2: of course, yesterday for.

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Speaker 3: The Los Angeles Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Tucker in the fold four years, two hundred and

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Speaker 2: forty million dollars, and everybody else in baseball wants to

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Speaker 3: Shop and they hate the Dodgers. What's your response to that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so ridiculous, Rob. As you know, baseball is

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Speaker 4: So you know, yeah, they signed Kyle Tucker because their

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Speaker 4: Bookie Betts and Taascar Hernandez are thirty three years old

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Speaker 4: and are coming off their worst offensive seasons, respectively. So

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Speaker 4: the Dodgers aren't going to just say let's take it

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Speaker 3: Dave, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I know reaction in MLB America and I know how

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Speaker 3: The World Series.

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Speaker 2: The franchise had money, had players, they couldn't win. The

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Speaker 2: not mean you're automatically going to win. It's the optics

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Speaker 3: Are just the diabolic the Mets.

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Speaker 4: The Mets have been spending like the Dodgers the last

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Speaker 4: And it was the Mets that came up with this

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Speaker 2: Is it taric school Bull the package to steal them

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't see the Tigers trading school Bull

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Speaker 4: Robie even with this, you know, huge gap between Boris

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Speaker 2: Thing, Dave, real quick before you skip over that that

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Speaker 4: Oh, of course it is, But it's not a foregone

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Speaker 4: I just don't see it unless it does get into arbitration,

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Speaker 2: And what people need to know when you go to arbitration,

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Speaker 2: Go in and basically tell the arbitrate of why school

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Speaker 3: You have to go tear down his statistics, right and Rob.

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Speaker 4: Come on, you know, Detroit's a big market. The Red

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Speaker 4: They should have done a better job of the relationship

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Speaker 3: It just is.

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Speaker 4: They're just choosing not to be part of that right now,

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Speaker 2: All Right, So on the Dodgers. Anything else we need

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Speaker 4: Well, I would hope a guy making sixty million dollars

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Speaker 2: Here's the one thing about Kyle Tucker. We all know

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Speaker 3: But is he is? He does? He sell tickets and

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Speaker 2: I'm going to do. I run out and buy a

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Speaker 3: Is he that guy?

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Speaker 2: Or he's a lunch pale guy who just gets a

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Speaker 4: No, he's not. He's not a lunch pale guy by

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Speaker 4: He's not going to be a leader. He's not going

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Speaker 3: That's what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, that's part of the reason. You know, in

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Speaker 4: some ways, Rob to use an analogy, he may be

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Speaker 2: And that and that's exactly what I meant when I

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Speaker 3: But he's being paid like a front man for sure,

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Speaker 2: All right, A man, it's gonna be another interesting baseball season.

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Speaker 2: And I've said this too before, Like the Dodgers last

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Speaker 3: I mean it was close. They really the Blue Jays

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Speaker 2: Appreciate the knowledge insight as always, mister Vassay. David vass

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Speaker 2: does a great job.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you, my man.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Rob.

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Speaker 2: In the words of New York TV legend the late

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Speaker 2: Bill Jorgensen, thanking you for your time this time.

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Speaker 3: Until next time, Rob Parker out.

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Speaker 1: D can't Gavin.

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Speaker 3: This could be an inside of Parker. See you next week.

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