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Speaker 1: just a mechanic. Cindy, Massachusetts. How can I help you?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening? Hi? Hi. Yeah. Basically, the only thing

428
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Speaker 1: that I could think of as far as the cargoes

429
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Speaker 1: when she was having a hard time starting, it would

430
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Speaker 1: be anything that could drain the battery. After the first

431
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Speaker 1: time that being being the battery loose, but when it

432
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Speaker 1: came the second time, I said, well, could it be

433
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Speaker 1: the radio? Could it be a thing else, you know,

434
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Speaker 1: And she didn't have any idea about whether it was

435
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Speaker 1: or wasn't. And uh, like I said, she wanted to

436
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Speaker 1: her husband and her turn their vehicles in in order

437
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Speaker 1: to get one car family kind of thing instead of

438
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Speaker 1: having two cars. And I was willing to get uh,

439
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Speaker 1: you know, buy the car off for and stuff. But

440
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Speaker 1: I said about her connecting with you, and she hesitant

441
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Speaker 1: about connecting with people. But anyways, I said, well I'll

442
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Speaker 1: do it, you know and stuff. But then when I

443
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Speaker 1: heard about the engine fires on the hun Days and

444
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Speaker 1: uh and other types of cars, but they didn't mention

445
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Speaker 1: years you know, Um, that really put a red signal

446
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Speaker 1: up on me and saying, oh, maybe that's you know,

447
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Speaker 1: her conking out may have been her saving grace, you know,

448
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, are you talking about, you know,

449
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Speaker 1: the hun Days? I think it's UM model year through fifteen,

450
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Speaker 1: the Santa Fez and some of the other models, the

451
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Speaker 1: Launchras and now some of their newer models are subject

452
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Speaker 1: to a recail. A matter of fact, they added to

453
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Speaker 1: it this week. I think the total number of vehicles

454
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Speaker 1: is close to three thousand. Uh. They're talking about car

455
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Speaker 1: fires engine fires as a result of problems in the

456
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Speaker 1: A B S control module with leaking break fluid causing

457
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Speaker 1: fluid to leak in the module, causes an electrical short

458
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Speaker 1: and increasingly risk of an engine compartment fire. Um, is

459
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Speaker 1: that is that what you're referencing? Are asking me about Cindy? Yeah? Yeah,

460
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Speaker 1: it was because I like, she didn't know what was wrong.

461
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Speaker 1: She's not mechanically inclined, and so what's the problem. What's

462
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Speaker 1: the problem with the car? Every once in a while

463
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Speaker 1: she goes out there and the battery is dead, the

464
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Speaker 1: car doesn't start right, Okay, So she had the radio

465
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Speaker 1: things extend. She was like, what else do I need

466
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Speaker 1: to do? I said, what, I don't know. That's why

467
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Speaker 1: I wanted you to call the car doctor, you know,

468
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Speaker 1: so he could figure it out instead of just leaving

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Speaker 1: it a week extra at the mechanic place, because maybe

470
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Speaker 1: they don't know how to test it. So you ever

471
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Speaker 1: get the water bill in your house and you think

472
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: the water bill is higher than it should be, Yep,

473
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Speaker 1: And you wonder where's all that water going. Yes, so

474
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Speaker 1: an electrical drain is kind of like that mysterious water bill,

475
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Speaker 1: and you want to know where's the electricity going. If

476
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Speaker 1: a battery is dead. A battery is dead either because

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Speaker 1: it's a bad battery, which is always possible, and it

478
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's new or not. New means never

479
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Speaker 1: ever worked in my book. But you know, you want

480
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Speaker 1: to do the same thing as you would looking for

481
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Speaker 1: the water drain in the house. You want to do

482
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Speaker 1: in a measurement of electrical drain on the battery. And

483
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Speaker 1: it's a fairly simple test. It's it's called a parasitic

484
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Speaker 1: draw test. Parasitic draw test. A mechanic about minutes gonna

485
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Speaker 1: have the meter set up connected to the proper battery post,

486
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Speaker 1: and it takes them anywhere from forty five minutes to

487
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Speaker 1: an hour just to determine and measure is there an

488
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Speaker 1: electrical drain on the battery. And that's that's something that's

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Speaker 1: got to be done. It's not a question of leaving

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Speaker 1: the car there for a week or you know, waiting

491
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Speaker 1: for the battery to go dead. You know, I love

492
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Speaker 1: the shops that say, well, let me wait for the

493
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Speaker 1: battery go dead, and then let me see if you

494
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Speaker 1: really have the problem. If the battery is dead, then

495
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Speaker 1: what you've still got to come up with a way

496
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Speaker 1: to measure this. Now, one of the things as a

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Speaker 1: shop can do is let's say they've got a car

498
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Speaker 1: and it shows no parasitic draw. I'll break it down

499
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Speaker 1: for you both ways. Let's say there is no parasitic draw.

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Speaker 1: Now we've got to start to think to ourselves. Do

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Speaker 1: we have an intermittent parasitic draw? Is there something turning

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Speaker 1: on somewhere at random that is creating a drain or

503
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Speaker 1: a draw. One of the things we can use to

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Speaker 1: find this is a thermal imager. A thermal imager is

505
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Speaker 1: just what it implies, it's it's a signature heat gun.

506
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: You can take a snapshot of the underhood it's running.

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Speaker 1: The components are you know this is a d twelve

508
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Speaker 1: degrees room temperature, orangine compartment temperature, this is fifty six

509
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Speaker 1: degrees and so on, And then you come back to

510
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Speaker 1: that same car three hours later. The hood is up.

511
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Speaker 1: Things have been set up so it's not to be

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Speaker 1: disturbed to wake up any modules. Take another thermal image

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Speaker 1: of the underhood, compartment, has something woke up, is something

514
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Speaker 1: showing heat. If it's showing heat, it's a parasitic drain,

515
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Speaker 1: then the question is is that part of normal vehicle

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Speaker 1: operation or is it not. That's one method of doing it.

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Speaker 1: The other is, if there is a parasitic drain, it's

518
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Speaker 1: a simple process of unplugging a fuse one at a time,

519
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: waiting does the fuse draw, does the drug go away?

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Speaker 1: Does it change? And if it does, then at least

521
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Speaker 1: you know the circuit that you have to go about

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Speaker 1: and and and and deal with. But I think what

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Speaker 1: they've got to do is they've got to find a

524
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Speaker 1: shop that can do the diagnostics and go the whole route.

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Speaker 1: And don't assume this is because of the fire issue.

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Speaker 1: That's a completely separate thing. And frankly, if the fire

527
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Speaker 1: problem was part of the reason why this car had

528
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Speaker 1: a parasitic drain, unfortunately, likely would have caught fire by now.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's just that's just I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If that's the icing on the cake, that's the onus

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Speaker 1: on the cake. Um uh, We'll leave it there, Cindy.

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Speaker 1: I hope I was of some kind of help to you.

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Speaker 1: Zero the car doctors back right after this, welcome back

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Speaker 1: on any of the car doctor. Let's get over and

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Speaker 1: talk to Let's go to Mike in Iowa, Oh to Silverado. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Mike Rondini and at your service, sir, how can I help?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? I'm doing great, I'm doing great.

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00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: What's going on? Well? I got an oak two chivy siparado. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I bought it new, it's got it. It's been kind

540
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Speaker 1: of storage for about eight years, maybe ten years, so

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get it out started driving it on

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Speaker 1: nice days. My question is do I need to change?

543
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: We're in gear? Well, yeah, I think, I think. I think.

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Speaker 1: You know, if it's wet, change it. Whatever it is,

545
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, fluid fluid regardless. There's a if you're sit

546
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Speaker 1: and you talk to a ken miss, they'll tell you

547
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Speaker 1: the story of how things fall out of suspension or

548
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: proportional balance. I think is the statement I've heard that

549
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Speaker 1: sometimes too, meaning that you know the chemical composition has

550
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Speaker 1: been compromised just from sitting and aging. The other factor is,

551
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: you know there's gonna be some moisture issues even if

552
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: it was in a heated garage or a you know,

553
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Speaker 1: a well well maintained area, um, inside, dry, et cetera. Yeah,

554
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: what's it gonna take? At at? You know? At what

555
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Speaker 1: do we now? You're twenty years old, thirty one thousand miles,

556
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: you've gone miles a year just doing math real quick? Um,

557
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: you know it. It's I would change all the fluids.

558
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Speaker 1: Did you just store it with a full tank of fuel? No,

559
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: but it is in a in a building where it

560
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Speaker 1: is dry and temperature controlled. So I do not speaking

561
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: about that. I do have some Mustangs too that I

562
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: keep it in a heated building. And those tanks are

563
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: also empty. Some of them I haven't driven for many,

564
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Speaker 1: many years, and they're all there are ones I've had

565
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: them for some of them I've had for fifty years.

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00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: Is the gas tank on the Silverado empty? It is

567
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: for now? I filled it up. Uh you know, I

568
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Speaker 1: put license back on insurance, and I did drive it

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Speaker 1: to town and I put filter up with gas here

570
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: just this morning. It runs fine. Now I do start

571
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Speaker 1: it when I listen stories. I did started twice a year,

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Speaker 1: sometimes three times a year. And uh so it didn't

573
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Speaker 1: always just sit there without being run. But uh, I

574
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Speaker 1: know I changed the engine. US won't do that. But

575
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know about the transfer case and the mission.

576
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: I would, and I would also look at you know,

577
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: there's some oil additives out there that will freshen up

578
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Speaker 1: the seals. And I'm not a I'm not a ocean

579
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: and magical licks or mechanic, but some of this stuff

580
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: really works well. I've had some great experience with I

581
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: think Liqua Molly is the one Liqua Molly makes. I

582
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: think it's part number two triple zero seven. They're hydraulic

583
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: lift or oil additive and it's gonna help clean up

584
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: any sludge issues or moisture condensation and help revitalized seals.

585
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: And you can find more at their website Liqua Molly

586
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: dot com. But I would take or liquid Dash Molly,

587
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: Liquid Dash Molly dot com. Uh, Mike, I would take

588
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 1: a look at that and see what um that would do.

589
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, if it's wet, change it. If it's a fluid,

590
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: change it. Obviously, you know, probably have to move the

591
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: tires around or maybe you kept it up off the up,

592
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: off the ground where it wasn't sitting. I'm sure you've

593
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: got some flat spots and the tires and then as

594
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: long as the brakes aren't rusted. You should be okay

595
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: that way, but I would also flush and change the

596
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: brake fluid as well. Send us some pictures if you

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00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: get a chance. We'd love to see it. We'll put

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00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: up on the Car Doctor Facebook page. Nothing like a

599
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 1: nice fresh crisp O two Silverado and then call us

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00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: back about your Mustangs. We want to hear that story too.

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Speaker 1: I'm Ron Anian, the Car Doctor. I'll be back right

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Speaker 1: who calls me, Yeah, I'll be happy to tell them

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Speaker 1: where to find you so they can take you with you. Well,

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Speaker 1: He walked through the door and he said a lot

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Speaker 1: of things and Peg and Peg would ask him, do

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Speaker 1: so far the most common car, the most common car

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Speaker 1: maintenance mistakes. This once again, I'll tell you what our

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Speaker 1: research department, since we've added Kathy to the research team,

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Speaker 1: she's she's just bending over backwards to come up with

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Speaker 1: these stories. She's really doing a great job research. Kathy

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Speaker 1: handed us a sheet today the most common car maintenance Mistakes,

624
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Speaker 1: courtesy of Triple A and Mario Cipriano from Messio Auto

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Speaker 1: and Body Repair and Nagata, Connecticut. And they asked him,

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Speaker 1: they took a survey and they they have Mario highlighted

627
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Speaker 1: here and they said, what's the biggest car maintenance smith

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Speaker 1: or misconception? He says, I believe one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: misconceptions is that the max tire pressure on the tire

630
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: is the manufacturers recommended pressure. The true recommended tire pressure

631
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: is on the placard, usually located on the driver's door jam.

632
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: That's true, and it seems that that's a very common

633
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: fault that people still don't look and realize that the

634
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Speaker 1: tire may have a different pressure than what the vehicle

635
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: is actually rated for she always want to pay attention

636
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Speaker 1: and look at the door placard for tire pressure and

637
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: also consider the fact that sometimes front, rear, and spare

638
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: tires all have different pressures. So just something to be

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Speaker 1: aware of, especially now that we're into the summer driving season.

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Speaker 1: Looks like we'll all be out and about as the

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Speaker 1: road start to get busy. Once again, thanks for the hour.

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Speaker 1: I enjoy being with you until the next time I'm

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Speaker 1: running any in the car doctor reminding once again good

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Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you