1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines. 4 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: This he is Hanging with the Boys, presented by wing 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 3: Now your hosts. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. 8 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 4: Thursday, Man, that sounds weird, Get used to it. Welcome Live. 9 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 4: Look at Hosto's Championship Plaza. The sun even looks different 10 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 4: this early in the morning, looks Brighten and Kurty okay 11 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 4: with Thish. 12 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, fine, I'm just trying to wake up a. 13 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 4: Little alright, Live Look at Tostito Championship plaus outside forts 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 4: at the Star Frisco, Texas. Where it's spring is here 15 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 4: sixty five degrees the how today, gentlemen, seventy eight degrees 16 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: and load of night is fifty nine. 17 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true. He is Shannon, that is Nate, This 18 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 6: is Kurt in the back. It's Chris Bean keeping us. 19 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: Live and on air. 20 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 6: I am back from the trailer parks. Zaddie Holly, Let's 21 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 6: go together. We make Hanging with the Boys the sports 22 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 6: equivalent of brail people. 23 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 3: Us when we speak. 24 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 4: Sir right rough to you and every day about wingstop 25 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: where favorite gets its. Wee man, we got a lot 26 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 4: to talk about. There has been so much said and 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 4: done over the last week. Like we need like two hours, 28 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: but we will be on Thursdays now at nine o'clock 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 4: in the morning. 30 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: We had to shift, shift up shift, put the shift. 31 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: He says, he's back in the fires our. 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 4: Schedule right, Okay, Nate's got his backpack on, he's reading 33 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 4: ahead of the show. So you started it. Let's let's 34 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 4: let's first off, how are you guys doing. 35 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: It's been it's been a while since we've all been 36 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: back together. A couple of weeks, has it been? 37 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 7: Danny White said, Dak is doing good enough to win 38 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 7: at Super Bowl. 39 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 8: Those around him have it. Let me take my back. 40 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, you need you need to participate today. 41 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 8: Listen. I want it with Jesse. Got to say this. 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 8: I want to know. Excuse me, curse you, Jesse. I'm 43 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 8: gonna read it again. 44 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 7: Danny White said, Dak is doing a good enough job 45 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 7: to win a super Bowl. 46 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 8: Those around him have it. Agree, you don't want to 47 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 8: speak on it? Speak on it? 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 4: You asking Jesse if he don't want to speak on something. 49 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 4: I think I love we've been doing this show. 50 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: Somebody asked me this time, four years we've been together? 51 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 8: It was me. 52 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 4: I didn't know if you wanted me to say that 53 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: you've been together what four or five? 54 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: This group? 55 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 8: And we did it a year or two COVID, right, yeah, yeah, 56 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 8: we did it before COVID. Yeah, yeah we. 57 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 4: Did so that was nineteen right, so five years and 58 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 4: then we did it a year. 59 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 8: Or two without me before. 60 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, we've been around about south say what, oh no, 61 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 7: it wasn't that why they when he got you to 62 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 7: slow it down, I uhould. 63 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 8: Be on Kurt hard No, Kurt, listen to me, or 64 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 8: you're not listening. 65 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 6: We're better gonna get just kind of if you got 66 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 6: me to slow it down, that's the wrong direction y'all want. 67 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: So in the four plus years that. 68 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 4: You've been on the show, I think I've heard you 69 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 4: not want to talk about one thing, and I don't 70 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 4: even remember what that was. 71 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: It's like, I, yeah, I'm good. 72 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 9: I probably once again, once again it's probably a white 73 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 9: say that. 74 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 8: Dak is doing good enough to win a super Bowl. 75 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: So here's we're good. Everybody's good. 76 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: We're good. 77 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 8: We're good and we're good. Good to go. 78 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 6: You got your final installment at the dinners today. 79 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 4: Yes, today, I'm my final deep cleaning. I had to 80 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 4: postponent last week, but I'm going this afternoon. 81 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: So let's go. 82 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: My teeth they need they pressured. They have to numb 83 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 4: me to clean my teeth. 84 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 8: That's how bad I've been there, done that. 85 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: Not fun. But yeah, we're all right. 86 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 6: So let's get into this. So Danny White, let's give 87 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 6: it a little bit of a backstory. Danny White was 88 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 6: in town. Uh, they were doing a Davey O'Brien Award, 89 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 6: which Jaydon Daniels l. 90 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: S U won. 91 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 6: That's the top award for quarterbacks in college football. So 92 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 6: of course when you have Danny White in the room, 93 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 6: you ask questions. Danny White also has a book, uh 94 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 6: that he'll be selling this summer, so we'll we'll hear 95 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 6: more of Danny White. 96 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. 97 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 6: There is a brotherhood, right, Okay, there's a brotherhood offensive lineman. 98 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 6: You in essence protect the brotherhood of offensive lineman receivers. 99 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 6: We protect the Oh he's a deva, that's a deva. 100 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 6: Oh hold on, now, let's you know, we protect the 101 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 6: brotherhood and quarterbacks do the same thing. Right, Quarterbacks look 102 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 6: at it and go, you know what, we're kind of this, 103 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 6: we're kind of thrust it into this position of leadership, 104 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 6: whether we want it or not, whether we want to 105 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 6: be the leader or not. Because we have the most 106 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 6: important position on the football field, it is thrusted upon 107 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 6: us to be that. And so I hear Danny White 108 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 6: make these comments, and he made a couple of comments 109 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 6: and some that I even thought to myself. He said, 110 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 6: you know, Dak should be the last one on this 111 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 6: team to change anything. And I thought to myself, whoof 112 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 6: that's a bold statement, because last time I checked the 113 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 6: definition of insanity to do the same thing over and 114 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 6: over and over again expecting different results. 115 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 8: Right, right, right? 116 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 6: The results here under Dak Prescott, who will be going 117 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 6: into his ninth year as the starting quarterback of the 118 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys, have been early exits in the playoffs. So 119 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 6: there needs to be something that changes. 120 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 8: Now. 121 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 3: What was the comment that you said, Nate, that Danny 122 00:05:59,279 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 3: White said? 123 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 4: Danny White said Dak is doing. 124 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 3: Good enough to win a Super Bowl. 125 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 4: Those around him, heavens. 126 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: Okay, some of those around him, And which is true? 127 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 3: Which is true. 128 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 6: But again, whether you agree or disagree, the quarterback is 129 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 6: held at the highest of standards. I personally made a 130 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 6: mistake a couple of weeks ago. 131 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: No way, yeah, no, believe it. Mark it down. 132 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 8: What's today? 133 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 4: Hold on a minute? What is today? 134 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 8: Hold on, man, let's get those pats off. 135 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 4: Second nine, seven and thirty two cents. 136 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. I bet on the I bet on the NFL version. 137 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 6: We talked you here Regi Miller talk about this back 138 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 6: in the day about Michael Jordan. I bet against the 139 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 6: Black Jesus a football, right, I bet a guy. 140 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: I went against Patrick Mahomes, and boy was I wrong. 141 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 4: Let's just clarify, Jesse did not bet. We do not. 142 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 6: Picked against it. I should say that I picked. Yes, 143 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 6: I picked against want to get off? Yea, yeah, I 144 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 6: picked against Black Jesus and cleats. 145 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 4: But the only reason why you did that is because 146 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 4: you you you played your flag in the ground about 147 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: midway through the season. 148 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: But that ain't never stopped me from changing the other time. 149 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 6: And so to Daddy White's point, I saw a quarterback 150 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 6: elevate his game. I saw a quarterback when they said, oh, well, 151 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 6: you know the old time that you've been in the 152 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 6: playoffs that you always played home games, and he said, okay, 153 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 6: we'll beat Miami at home. Who a lot of people 154 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 6: thought that was going to be a high powered offense. 155 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 6: No problem. We'll go to Buffalo in the middle of 156 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 6: the winter time and beat the you know, the the 157 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 6: Josh Allens of the worlds. 158 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 8: No problem. 159 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 3: Oh, now we gotta go back. 160 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 6: We gotta go to big bat Baltimore and face the nasty, physical. 161 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens team. No problem, We're going to do that. 162 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 6: And then we'll go to Vegas and you have to 163 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 6: play the Kyle Shanahan and the Boombox Boys. 164 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 8: Yes. 165 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: Sure. 166 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 6: And in the second half he said, he said, what 167 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 6: do you need, coach, we need plays. I'll give them 168 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 6: to you with my legs. I'll give them to you 169 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 6: with my feet. I'll give them to you with my arm. 170 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 6: I'll give him to you with my brain. And he 171 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 6: just methodically worked his way and then got the ball 172 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 6: in overtime and said. 173 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: This over, this over, and everybody knew. 174 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 6: Everybody knew when the San Francisco kicked that field goals, 175 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 6: it's over. If you didn't say it's over, you did 176 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 6: you weren't watching the game? 177 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 8: Well, I had a difference. 178 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: I thought it was over at the coin flap. No, 179 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: you didn't know. 180 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 8: You didn't a halftime. 181 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 7: When I told these people where I was, I said, y'all, 182 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 7: y'all still got a problem. 183 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 8: And they said what I said, It's called Andrey reeveses. 184 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 6: And so when Danny White says that the others need 185 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 6: to elevate the game around dkure, sure the Lion he 186 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 6: needs to have more. He needs to show up more. Right, 187 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 6: Tank needs to show up more. Other guys need to 188 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 6: show up more. But make no mistake about it, this 189 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 6: is a quarterback driven league. And if you were going 190 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 6: to get to the super Bowl, the super Bowl where 191 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 6: he's been in won three. 192 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 10: Times, for god how many he's been to and where 193 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 10: they were played and who he played against, your quarterback, 194 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 10: your quarterback will need will need it is it is. 195 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 6: Unless you got the eighty five Bears of the two 196 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 6: thousand Ravens, your quarterback will need to show up and 197 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 6: be better than he's ever been for you to get that. 198 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 6: And if that can't do that in year nine, we'll 199 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 6: be sitting in the same spot next year. Say the 200 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 6: same exact thing. Mike McCarthy. Contact was expired Mike Zimmer. 201 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 6: Have we found out the details of his contract. That's 202 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 6: gonna be very interesting too. Have we found out the 203 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 6: details of his contract yet? Okay, that's that's that's a 204 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 6: little nugget that we just need to kind of just 205 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 6: see if he's in the waiting pay attention to that. 206 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: The contract talks in that. 207 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 6: But we'll be here, we'll be sitting in the same 208 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 6: spot again next year, and we'll be saying. 209 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: I'm not buying in. 210 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 4: I'm not buying in until they win a playoff game 211 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 4: next year. 212 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: So I get right now, I get what Danny's saying. 213 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 6: Danny's protecting his group, He's protecting his brotherhood and saying, 214 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 6: you know, quarterbacks. We get and I mean, come on, Danny, 215 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 6: you maybe you should have changed some things. 216 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: Last I checked, Danny. 217 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 6: You you had some playoff trouble as well. You didn't 218 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 6: elevate your game enough in certain situations to get your 219 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 6: team to where they need to be. 220 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 4: He's on the other side of the fence now he's 221 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 4: just giving his opinion. 222 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, did that Is. 223 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 4: That a good enough? 224 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 8: I just want I want to hear man, that was great. 225 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 4: Now wait, now it's your turn. 226 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 3: Your guy. Was that your guy? 227 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 8: Thank you? 228 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: That was very well put. 229 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 8: The brotherhood. 230 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 4: I like the way you said that you. 231 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 8: Protect, he covered everybody. 232 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 4: You're in a different brotherhood. You were in the the dynasty. 233 00:10:58,480 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 4: Protect your dynasty. 234 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 7: Yes, your guy, Jimmy, Yes, back in the fold and 235 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 7: consulting with Jerry a good thing? 236 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 8: Wrong? No, not a good thing. What's your opinion? 237 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 7: I have never liked the consultants. I don't think they're 238 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 7: a good thing. I think as a as a management group, 239 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 7: you have a hit. You have an owner, a GM, 240 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 7: a head coach uh to his assistant's top assistance. What 241 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 7: do they call coordinators and coaches and players? Anything outside 242 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 7: of that norm? 243 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 8: I don't. I don't. 244 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 7: I don't jive into it because I can't be a 245 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 7: head coach said, okay, well what does Jimmy think? Well, 246 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 7: I have you and gave you millions of dollars. I 247 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 7: don't dig I don't do that. 248 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 8: Now. 249 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 7: If you say he was over scouting and he's messing 250 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 7: with Will, that's a different thing. But consulting, and I've 251 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 7: heard about to say he's consulting to talking about the 252 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 7: coaches and whatever. That's good in college, it's not great 253 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 7: in prose. I've never seen that work. I've never seen 254 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 7: a consultant come in and change the attitude of what's. 255 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 8: Going wrong, going right of wrong and every day in 256 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 8: every day structure of a team. I don't. I don't. 257 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 8: I love Jimmy. 258 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 7: I love what he what he did for us, and 259 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 7: how he motivated and kept but that that you know 260 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 7: coming nah. 261 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 5: May said that like a Miami radio station, And to me, 262 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 5: I'm thinking, maybe this is just him and Jerry kind 263 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 5: of shooting the ball and then Jimmy. 264 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 4: Him calling him and saying, hey, what do you think 265 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 4: about this? 266 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 5: After the playoff loss, it was mentioned that they had 267 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 5: a phone call. But outside of that, you know, Jimmy's 268 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 5: like embellishing that a little bit. 269 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 8: And yeah, I hope he is. 270 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 4: Everybody's making a bigger deal. 271 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's. 272 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 5: Talking. 273 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: That's good. 274 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 5: They seem to you know, they seem to. 275 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 3: Be getting along time. 276 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 8: Yes, ain't making a no. 277 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 5: You know, Jerry riuns the show in the end here, 278 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 5: so it's going to be effected. But I think in 279 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 5: general he's not having you. 280 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 7: Just think fellas, just think you know, hey, man, uh 281 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 7: you the boss of something, somebody hires you, giving you 282 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 7: million minus that. Hey, man, you are running my company 283 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 7: and after about two years, you know, were making a profit. 284 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 7: But it ain't what we think. Hey, I'm gonna go 285 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 7: get Jess because man, when Jess was running the company, 286 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 7: it really was booming. Let me go get him as 287 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 7: a consultant. Maybe he can help you. No, no, that's 288 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,599 Speaker 7: just that's a setup to get you fired. That's a 289 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 7: set up, you know, because he's gonna go back. What 290 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 7: Jesse is gonna go back, it ain't gonna never be 291 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 7: his fault because he's a consultant and it ain't gonna 292 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 7: never be He said nothing wrong. 293 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 8: No, I don't. I don't. 294 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 7: That to me, that's the indirect of a knife in 295 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 7: your back. 296 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 8: That's what I believe. 297 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 5: Consultants are pigeons, right, you know what the phrase is? 298 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 3: Yes, oh yeah. 299 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 4: The consultants make a lot of money for they do 300 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 4: the work they do. 301 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 7: And that consulting firms to hire your people, that's one thing. 302 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 7: Consulting firms to direct people, that's a whole nother thing. 303 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 4: All right, let's take our first break when we come back. 304 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 3: But before we go, let me sell this. 305 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 6: Do you think do you think because Jimmy's been out 306 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 6: of the game for thirty years. 307 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: Yes, is his opinions and ways relevant? Now does it 308 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: even matter? Like right do like right? Like that is Jimmy. 309 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 3: That was That was my thoughts on this as the 310 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: game past him. 311 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I mean, it's one thing to be an analyst, 312 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 4: it's another thing to be Why. 313 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 8: Pray but don't have a job. 314 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 7: And that's why New England coach don't have a job 315 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 7: because owners are saying, I don't think that's working this day. 316 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 8: The days exactly what you're just saying. 317 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: I don't see. 318 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 6: I think Jimmy leaves the studio in New York or California. 319 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 6: What do they do they Fox show at I think 320 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 6: in New York. Think it's in New York, they be cold, 321 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 6: they'd be cold. Okay, think it's in New York. 322 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 8: Now man, it's it's in l A because when based Ork. 323 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, Jimmy's going back to South Florida, he Jimmy, 324 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 6: Jimmy ain't busting down tape. Jimmy, Jimmy in South Florida 325 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 6: casting that ride out in the. 326 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 4: Middle of somewhere Marlon fishing And now I agree, I 327 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 4: agree with that. I do think there's certain things that 328 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: he could say, hey, this is how we built this. 329 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 4: This is how you build a team and camaraderie and 330 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: leadership and things. 331 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 7: Like that, and pay me for that building. 332 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 8: Do you want to build it? 333 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, the Cowboys have a problem with the structure of building. 334 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 7: Every team that's in the playoffs, and I'm gonna say 335 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 7: it every year because it's the same old thing. Every 336 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 7: team that's in the playoffs. The top four teams all 337 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 7: have something in consistent. They have a quarterback that don't 338 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 7: turn the ball over in the playoffs. They have one 339 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 7: or two things of both. They have dominant offensive defensive lines. 340 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 7: It don't change. The Kansas City Chiefs went from scoring 341 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 7: twenty nine points last year and thirty something the year 342 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 7: before to down too almost twenty one to twenty two 343 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 7: points a game. What does that tell you? They had 344 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 7: some dominance over there on their defense. They have some dominance. 345 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 7: So you're gonna have to get that defensive lind offense, 346 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 7: Lian right. What has killed us over the last four years. 347 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 7: Our quarterback is not played well, our offensive defensive line 348 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 7: have not played well, and especially not collectively. It ain't 349 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 7: hard to build a team, is can you get the 350 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 7: players in here to get it done. 351 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 8: Every year. We talk about the cap, the cap, the cap. 352 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 7: You know what, It's two forms of how you pay 353 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 7: people through the draft and through free agency. We have 354 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 7: not touched free agency in the last few years. You're 355 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 7: gonna have to find you some offensive lineman. Are you 356 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 7: gonna have to find you a deep out? I mean, 357 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 7: and I heard a guy say on one of the 358 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 7: NFL stations, one of the more respect NFL stations, said, like, 359 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 7: you can't have enough great corners. You can't have enough 360 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 7: great wide receivers. You definitely can't have enough great office 361 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 7: defensive lineman. The forty nine Ers just stack up on them. 362 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 7: The Philadelphia Eagles, even though they imploded, they just stack 363 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 7: up on them. You can't have enough of these guys. 364 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 7: And so it ain't hard to build. If you need 365 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 7: some consult I'll tell you the bill. And you think 366 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 7: I'm crazy, But if you gonna spend a first round 367 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 7: pick on the offense or defensive lineman, you might always 368 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 7: spend your whole draft on them. 369 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 6: Well, that's a great say comercial and talk about we 370 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 6: don't need Nate Newton to be a consultant. 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All right, I'm gonna go 418 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 4: way off topic before we get into Michael Parsons comments. 419 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: He had a couple of them that we can probably 420 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 3: you talk about on the. 421 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 4: Show, but saw something the other day and Jesse, this 422 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 4: kind of connects, I guess connects. 423 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: To our show because of you. 424 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 4: But Belichick, you know, one of the probably the best 425 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 4: special teams player of all time, Slater with New England retired. Yes, 426 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 4: I realize Belichick coach arguably the three best players at 427 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 4: their position on offense, defense and specialty. Yes, Tom Brady, 428 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 4: Lawrence Taylor and Slater in New England. That's pretty crazy. 429 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 7: That's pretty and had an impact in who they were. Yeah, yeah, 430 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 7: and had an impact in who they were. It's pretty wild. 431 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 7: So all right, Slavery is a good dude too, is he? 432 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 8: Man? Man? 433 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 3: He looks he looks like he's like fifty. Great, he 434 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 3: has he's an old soul, like yeah, but he's a. 435 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 8: Man old So that will get you old brow you up. 436 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 6: There wasn't there wasn't there Like there aren't many dudes 437 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 6: that are like him, Like the moment when I got 438 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 6: to New England and the first time meeting him, he 439 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 6: was like whatever you need, Like he was such a 440 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 6: help and like you could tell a guy who's not 441 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 6: like threatened by anyone or what. 442 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 3: He just like listen, man, like. 443 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 6: Take your time. It's gonna take a little while for 444 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 6: you to get it, like the offense and everything, and 445 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 6: you know, he he kind of gave me insight on 446 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 6: how Bill thinks and works. 447 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 3: And the first practice I have a practice. 448 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 6: I just got there the day before and we went 449 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 6: into a practice and seven plays in, Tom Brady's in 450 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 6: the huddle and he goes sixteen year in. I look around, 451 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 6: like there's another six d I hadn't be another sixteen 452 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 6: out here because it ain't me. And sure enough, like 453 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 6: I go in there and Dion Branch helps me out 454 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 6: when get in hudle because I. 455 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: Don't know what's going on. 456 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 6: And I come back and I'm like, I'm like it, 457 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 6: say what what He's like, Man, that's just that spill. 458 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 6: He wants to see how you're going to react in 459 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 6: practice situations. 460 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: Just you're all right, You're fine. 461 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 6: Just always pay attention because this can happen at any 462 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 6: point in time. So just make sure if you're supposed 463 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 6: to do something or be somewhere, just do it. So 464 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 6: man shout out to Matthew Slater. Man, he's a great dude. 465 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 8: Very cool. All right. 466 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 4: Mister Parsons had a couple of comments. He's been in 467 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 4: the news ever since the season ended for one reason 468 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 4: or another. 469 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: So like said media he does. It's that's a I think, 470 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 3: a blessing and a curse. 471 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 5: Jonathan Hankins has a podcast. 472 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: Now what Yeah, I did. 473 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: Not know that. 474 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 3: I did not know that either interesting. 475 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 7: And I and when I backup centers, hutches and or whoever, 476 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 7: everybody got. 477 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 8: You just hook it up. 478 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 2: Man. 479 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 8: Everybody can be good, but everybody can have one. 480 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look at us. 481 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 4: We just talked about it for five years together. 482 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 8: So we gret anybody can great. All right. 483 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 4: So Micah came out. I guess this week Monday, maybe. 484 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 3: All Star weekend. All Star weekend, which by the way, 485 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: had no idea he could ball like that? 486 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 8: What type of ball basketball? Yeah, I probably went home 487 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 8: in the first round. 488 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 3: So we can play basketball. 489 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 4: So anyway, he said that he talked to mister Jones 490 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 4: about Kurt What what exactly was? 491 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 5: It sound like they had a long conversation through they 492 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 5: set together in his sweep and they had a long conversation. 493 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 5: And part of that was type of players he want, 494 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 5: players he wants around them, and culture he wants to 495 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 5: create and that kind of thing. So I found it 496 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 5: kind of interesting that one is that kind of normal 497 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 5: that you're owner slash GM talks to your top players 498 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 5: kind of find out what they want and it is. 499 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 5: And secondly, how does how does it go with his teammates? 500 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 5: How did they see that? 501 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 8: Look at me? 502 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 7: I used to talk to Jerry Troy used to talk 503 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 7: to Jerry. 504 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 8: That's normal, is it? You know? You know what are 505 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 8: you looking at? You know? 506 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 7: Owner gim I asked that question, what are you looking at? 507 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 7: I went out with a couple of gems and owners 508 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 7: you know. But I but they kind of got rid 509 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 7: of me quick because I was like, I have no, 510 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 7: don't don't. I don't want no input on how you 511 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 7: run your team. I would tell nope, no, no, I 512 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 7: know you're not going to listen to me. I know 513 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 7: you want me just be throwing some ideas out the 514 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 7: how think of where I come from. I went to 515 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 7: the Panthers from the Cowboys, you know, so they wanted 516 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 7: some inside like nah, I don't know, and so I 517 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 7: wasn't that guy. But guys that are great players that 518 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 7: have shown great success in this league that you may 519 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 7: have to deal with for a lot of years. You 520 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 7: you may you want the input. You want to know 521 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 7: what they're thinking and hopefully they will be truthful about it. 522 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 7: For me, when I when I heard this and read 523 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 7: this earlier, I just want mister Parsons to mature. 524 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 9: You. 525 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 7: You you saying a lot, you want a lot, but 526 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 7: you got to be able to give your heart and 527 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 7: soul to the team that you're expecting a lot from. 528 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 7: Are you all the way sold in to not only 529 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 7: the team but the system that the team run? Are 530 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 7: you sole in to the point where you'll do whatever 531 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 7: it takes to win games? So that is my question. 532 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 7: I mean, you you you do what you want, and 533 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 7: you say what you want and you telling man what 534 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 7: you want? Well, are you totally bought in to the 535 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 7: team and his system? I mean, but he hasn't to me? 536 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 7: Has the mature just a little bit more. I mean, 537 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 7: I had to go through it. Jesse came in probably 538 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 7: a little bit more mature than most because he knew 539 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 7: his situation a little bit quicker than most. But you 540 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 7: got to grow up before you saw it, telling the 541 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 7: man what you want. 542 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 5: I like what he's saying. I guess you know, he 543 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 5: wants to change the culture. And you know he's talked 544 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 5: about different players here and there. But I just I 545 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 5: worry that it's just something we should all be hearing, 546 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 5: you know, publicly. 547 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 3: Jesse just wait. 548 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 4: Here, I'll jump in before before Jesse jumps in the 549 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 4: I don't mind. Like I think that happens a lot 550 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 4: like I hope it happens a lot like I hope 551 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 4: they're talking to Dak about, you know, his contracts coming up, 552 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 4: and everybody's talking about, hey, this is they're locked in, 553 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 4: like they're you know, they have to resign Dak, and 554 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 4: I hope they're talking about, like, hey, what what's going 555 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 4: to help us win? What's going to help you elevate 556 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 4: your game? I hope they're doing that, you know, with 557 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 4: your key players. The thing that caught me off guard 558 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 4: was he also said that when DeMarcus Lawrence said the 559 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 4: team was burned out or they were tired or whatever. 560 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 3: At the end of the season. You can't say that publicly. 561 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 4: And that's part of the culture that needs to change, 562 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 4: is that it's basically is that basically you calling out 563 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 4: your teammates. 564 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 5: What I saw kind of like what he's saying. 565 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 4: And that's that's your leader on the defense that you're 566 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 4: calling out. So now in that locker room, if I'm 567 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 4: DeMarcus Lawrence, am I like, hey, look look, young fella, 568 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 4: wait a minute. You you you hold up like this? 569 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 8: Is that? 570 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 4: What does that do in the locker room when you 571 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 4: start airing all this stuff out like you said, saying it? 572 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 4: I mean, he said, you don't say that publicly, and 573 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 4: then he comes out and he says something publicly right like, hey, 574 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 4: go have this conversation behind closed doors, and you know, 575 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 4: I don't know that. That's what worries me. Is this 576 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 4: becoming a rift where hey, you're airing out all your 577 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 4: laundry right now. 578 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 3: And that's my concern. 579 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 6: We talk a lot about leadership in football, and if 580 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 6: Micah can take anything from Dak, it's the leadership part. 581 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 6: And I'm never going to hate or put a stop 582 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 6: to anybody going out there making their money, doing their thing. 583 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 6: But what Micah has to realize is that there is 584 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 6: a fine line of keeping it real and not saying 585 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 6: nothing at all, because sometimes the best answer for you 586 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 6: is no answer. Like when you think that you have 587 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 6: to be the realist person in the room and give 588 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 6: the realist answers about situations. It's different from when we 589 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 6: do it. We don't have a locker room that we 590 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 6: have to go back to. There is no teammates that 591 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 6: we have to go back to and work this thing 592 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 6: out with and get into a foxhole with. When you 593 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 6: come out publicly and you say I had a conversation 594 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 6: with Jerry Jones and I told him, now, this is 595 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 6: not my words, this is not me taking a shot, 596 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 6: this is his words. And he says, I told Jay 597 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 6: or mister Jones or whatever he called him in that interview, 598 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 6: he said, you know, we need some bigger guys in 599 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 6: the middle. We need some three hundred and thirty pound 600 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 6: guys in the middle, and all this kind of stuff. 601 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 6: If I'm Mozzie Smith, I'm going home homeboy, like I 602 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 6: thought you and I were. If I'm Hankins, I go 603 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 6: man man. I took on the scale this morning. I 604 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 6: was three thirty this morning, and I say that because 605 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 6: what we know is in order to add. 606 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 3: To a roster, you gotta take away from a roster, 607 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 3: you gotta take away from a roster. 608 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 6: So when you publicly come out and say, now, this 609 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 6: was a private conversation, fine, but when you publicly come 610 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 6: out and say this, you've just now. 611 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 3: Told the world that. 612 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 6: And if it's okay, there's a pecking order, right, okay, 613 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 6: cool Mazzi was a first round pick, right, so maybe 614 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 6: he has another year right to kind of give a 615 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 6: chance for development. 616 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 8: Cool. 617 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 6: Well, if Mike is saying that he needs more guys 618 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 6: in the interior, that means when I add another guy 619 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 6: on top of that, whether it be a high paid 620 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 6: free agent or another high drive pick, well that pushes 621 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 6: everyone down or not. So that means the new guy 622 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 6: comes in and it's Massi under that. And so now 623 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 6: what happens to Neville Gallimore, what happens to those other 624 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 6: guys that are under him, Well, you only get fifty 625 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 6: three spots. Now those guys are pushed out, and so 626 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 6: that's the trickle down effect. I don't think Micah at 627 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 6: times fully grasp when you come out and you say 628 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 6: these things that there's guys in that locker room. Have 629 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 6: you go back to and you go, damn, did you 630 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 6: just try to give my job away? Like you know 631 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Like what telling them how you really feel? 632 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,239 Speaker 6: And that's that's my only thing. It's I don't have 633 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 6: a problem Mica I having this podcast and whatever. But 634 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 6: it's when you say things that ultimately affect the guys 635 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 6: that you because now let's say that they don't get 636 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 6: rid of or they do bring in another guy. Right now, 637 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 6: how am I looking at you as a teammate and 638 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 6: you know this? 639 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: You know this? 640 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 6: The is there are there's the levels to teammates, right 641 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 6: there's a there's levels to you know what. 642 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 3: This guy, I. 643 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 6: Don't really like him, I don't really fool with him, 644 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 6: so I'm gonna just do my job. Then there's you 645 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 6: know what, he's kind of pretty cool, so I'm gonna 646 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 6: go to extra mile. And then there's the guys you 647 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 6: like brou I'm in the fox hole with you, like 648 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 6: I'm really willing to go where you go, and those things. 649 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: It's a very it's a very fragile thing that can happen. 650 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 6: You're talking about you dealing with a bunch of dudes 651 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 6: and with egos fra fragile egos and can be sensitive 652 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 6: at times. So when you come out and you publicly 653 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 6: say this is what I said to the owner, and 654 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 6: you're very specific in the things that you said and 655 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 6: the players that you said, I don't know how you 656 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 6: take that as a as a player that you're saying, well, 657 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 6: I need more guys at this position. Well, what are 658 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 6: the guys at that position? I don't have to say 659 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 6: to Michaeh. That's my only gripe is saying that when 660 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 6: you say things, you have to be mindful whether they're 661 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 6: true or not. There's certain things that's not for public consumption. 662 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 6: That's because you get on the podcast. That doesn't mean 663 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 6: you have to say those things. You could have simply 664 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 6: said to you know, to to to Stephen A. 665 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: Smith. You know what do you think you guys need? 666 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 5: Man? 667 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 8: You know what? 668 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 3: Shoot? 669 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 6: I really got to focus on Micah and get better 670 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 6: and get Micah ready to go for another year. That's 671 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 6: why we got the great Will maclay and all those 672 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 6: guys in the scouting department. And you know we just 673 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 6: signed Code Zimmer. Those guys gotta figure that out. I'll 674 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 6: be ready. I'll be ready, and whoever we bring in, 675 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 6: we're gonna make this thing work. Yes, we we're gonna 676 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 6: you know, our owner said that we're gonna dive into 677 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 6: free agency, and yes, these things are gonna happen. So 678 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 6: when whatever they do, I'm gonna be ready and I'm 679 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 6: gonna be the leader of that. This defense needs to 680 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 6: help change the culture. But when you call Tank out 681 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 6: and whether we're Tank was wrong right and what he said, 682 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 6: But when you call him out, and now you call 683 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 6: other guys out specifically in God that you want to 684 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 6: kind of replace those positions with. Now, what's gonna happen 685 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 6: in the locker room is you can't have a bad day, bro, 686 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 6: because God's gonna look at you now and go, huh, 687 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 6: you wanted to replace me? 688 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: Where were you at? Where were you at today? 689 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 6: And you know what I'm saying, Like those those are 690 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 6: the type of petty things that happen in the locker room. 691 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 6: And this is this is this whole as the world turns, 692 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,239 Speaker 6: you know, soap proper that we've seen this offseason with 693 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 6: with with the Cowboys, Boy, it can happen. It can 694 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 6: happen like that, And let you string together. A couple losses, 695 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 6: those fingers really start getting pointed, because now, what are 696 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 6: we gonna go back and say, We're gonna go back 697 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 6: and we're gonna look at these reports when you said 698 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 6: in the off season, well this guy, that guy, and 699 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 6: that guy and that guy, and now the heat's on 700 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 6: them and the heats on y'all and all because you 701 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 6: said a certain thing. 702 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 4: And that's a great point because and I'm not speaking 703 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 4: or thinking for Micah, but my interpretation of that is 704 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 4: he got asked a question, and we, as the media 705 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 4: always say, we're tired of these canned answers and these 706 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 4: guarded answers. Why don't guys just say what they think? Well, 707 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 4: he said what he thought, right, not thinking great point 708 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 4: because I didn't think of it like this. By by 709 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 4: saying you need to add this, you're saying we don't 710 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 4: currently have this. 711 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 3: And then those are real people. 712 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 8: And and your teammates. Right, it's a priority. And I 713 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 8: know I'm gonna make a lot of people mad every time. 714 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 8: I really don't care. I don't play anymore, so I 715 00:34:59,160 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 8: don't care. 716 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 7: It's a priority, and the team is first, second, and third, 717 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 7: and then it's everybody else and That's what I respected 718 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 7: about Michael Irvin. That's why I respected about Troy. That's 719 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 7: why I expect. I've heard my teammates EM, Mike and 720 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 7: Troy say bad things, not about me, amma, but it 721 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 7: was never publicly, you know. And I'll add on to 722 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 7: what Jesse said. All you had to say was, man, 723 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 7: we really gotta starting with me. We really got to 724 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 7: concentrate on stopping to run. That's been our achilles hell. 725 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 7: Were used to not say anything bad about nobody, but 726 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 7: you know you you're addressing. 727 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, you're not saying. 728 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 7: So, like Jesse said, one or two bad losses and 729 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 7: all of a sudden, if Hankins wanted to be that guy, 730 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 7: which he's not, he'd be like, man, you know what 731 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 7: I ain't. 732 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 8: I'm going for me some Sacks student. 733 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 7: And so now indirectly know who he's talking about, because 734 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 7: we know over that number eleven ain't staying in his 735 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 7: lane if he if he see an opening, he's taking 736 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 7: the opening, even though he know. 737 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 8: The quarterback go sprint out if he missed. 738 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 7: You know, the quarterback gonna sprint out and everybody will 739 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 7: be looking at it as well. But that's number eleven. 740 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 7: So I tell people you you the priority, and that's 741 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 7: what Jimmy told us, and maybe being a consultant, he'll 742 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 7: probably come in and give it that speech, but him 743 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 7: kiding like, man, man, when I leave him, I'm going 744 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 7: to do my thing. You want the team I'm going 745 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 7: to do. 746 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 4: And is this the new NFL? It is? 747 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 8: Is this the new NBA? 748 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 4: Everybody's fail, everybody's got a podcast, everybody wants to give 749 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 4: their opinion, everybody wants to get clicks. 750 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 3: It is, but it ain't, it shouldn't be. It is, 751 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 3: but and a teams. 752 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 7: What your coach allow, it's what your ownership allow, and 753 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:54,760 Speaker 7: you can set the tone. 754 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 4: But the guys that don't allow that kind of stuff 755 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 4: are slowly getting out of Again, yes ya, So is 756 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 4: this the new How do you control this? Or is 757 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 4: this just gonna be the way it is? 758 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 6: You can't control it right as you evolved with it. 759 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 6: But again, it's it's it's having those big boy conversations 760 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 6: of saying, hey, I don't mind you having your podcast, 761 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 6: but never never missed the fact that you got to 762 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 6: come back into this locker room and be with these guys, 763 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 6: because that's going. 764 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 4: To be awkward, right, and training can start doing OTAs 765 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 4: and they show up. The first time they make eye contact, 766 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 4: it's going to be like, bro. 767 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 8: No, you some guys. 768 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 14: For some guys you don't, don't don't think about, don't 769 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 14: think about, don't think about nineties guys, think about think 770 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 14: about twenty twenty four. But some guys, these dudes will 771 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 14: stop following you that you know you say something Wrongore. 772 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 7: This guy, this guy don't lie, and he's always said 773 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 7: things that was truthfully in a lot of ways people 774 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 7: didn't listen to. 775 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 8: And he didn't care because if t O t O. 776 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 7: Kind of just did his thing said and a lot 777 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 7: of players too, said some crazy stuff and then he won. 778 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 7: Line bro, it just ain't nobody gonna pay attention to it. Well, now, 779 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 7: Michael has not said anything that's a lie, But like 780 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 7: Jesse said, and I believe you can't do that to 781 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 7: you guys in the locker room. 782 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,479 Speaker 8: But has he said a lie. No, he's not said 783 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 8: a lot. 784 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 7: We don't have run defenders, you know, but you know 785 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 7: you're a part of that problem. While we don't have 786 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 7: run defenders because you are good enough to be a 787 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 7: run defender, but you choose not to but you call 788 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 7: out Tank because Tank said I don't know who what 789 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 7: Tank was on that morning or what he had missed 790 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 7: to say, he was burnt out. I mean, here you 791 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 7: are in the playoffs and you burnt out, so not 792 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 7: a good thing to say. But I'm with Jesse one 793 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 7: hundred percent. 794 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 8: How can you go back to the locker room? 795 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 7: And unless you that guy I know too just could go. 796 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 7: He went in three or four locker rooms. I'm what 797 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 7: I got to say it. I don't care. 798 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 6: Maybe maybe, but yeah, but when Taylor went out on 799 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 6: the field, it was the productivity was always there. 800 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 7: Yeah, in the in the big moment, in the big moments, Yes, sir, 801 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 7: I agree with you. I ain't gonna bet. It's certain 802 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 7: things you cannot ever forget. The priority is number one, 803 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 7: team number two to the team number three, and if 804 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 7: you always think that way, you will get to that 805 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 7: point where you can deflect well. 806 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 6: And that's the biggest problem. And it's not just Micah. 807 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 6: That's the biggest problem with the Dallas Cowboys. The priority 808 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 6: one and two and three ain't the team right. We've 809 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 6: said it many many times before. It's fifty three brands 810 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 6: and everybody's trying to sell themselves and their brand and 811 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 6: and and and their their marketing space and and all 812 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 6: that kind of stuff and and and then it's the team. 813 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 6: It's let me get mine off. And this is not 814 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 6: just let me say this. This is not a shot 815 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 6: at Micah. This is not targeted at Micah. 816 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 8: The whole team. 817 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 6: This is the whole team. This is the culture. When 818 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 6: we talk about changing the culture, this is it that. 819 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 6: That's the biggest thing is that we have fifty three 820 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 6: individual brands that put themselves in their brands before the team. 821 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 3: There's no way you can change that. 822 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 8: You can't. 823 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 7: The box is open right once my bell, Once my 824 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 7: bell stopped who being who she was, and Apple and 825 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 7: all these other guys start being who they. 826 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 4: Was, everybody got their own broadcast. 827 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 7: Yes, sir, like Jessic call us the other day, Hey, fellas, 828 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 7: we need to make adjustment. We're a team. We made adjustment. 829 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 7: But if one of the three of the man we 830 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 7: ain't doing. 831 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 8: This for jess you know. But bruh, people don't think 832 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 8: that's simple. 833 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 14: We knew that we had to find a way so 834 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 14: we can have our teammate on the team. 835 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 8: A lot of the to do, Like man, I need 836 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:57,760 Speaker 8: to get paid. 837 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 4: You know what, we got to take a break. I 838 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 4: would go ahead and say the Cowboys are way ahead 839 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 4: of their time by decades because they've had individual brands 840 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 4: for years. Yes, and now the league's finally catching up 841 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 4: to them, and everybody else is starting to get their 842 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 4: individual brands. 843 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 8: So they were peel, but brands talk a whole lot 844 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 8: louder than ever. 845 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 4: The star all right, and that is as the world turns. 846 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,720 Speaker 4: We will be right back for the final two minutes 847 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 4: of the show and hang it. 848 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 3: With the boys. 849 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 15: I'm Dak Prescott, quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. 850 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 3: Have they snapped the press stout who looks white? It's 851 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 3: not there. 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Last segment brought to each and 895 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 4: every day by Jigsaw, official dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys. 896 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 3: And before we get out of here, fellas, can I 897 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 3: just quickly say this, yes, this is literally quickly Okay. 898 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 6: I do not have a personal vendetta against Michael Parsons 899 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 6: our dad, are in anybody or anybody but real we are. 900 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 6: We are a show that talks about cowboys topics when 901 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 6: a cowboy, and I do other shows that are cowboy 902 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 6: related shows. So when a cowboy, whether Danny White. Do 903 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 6: I have a person of ever deet against Danny White? Now, No, 904 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 6: Danny White is a former cowboy. He makes a comment, 905 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 6: we discuss it. Michael makes a comment, We discussed it. 906 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 6: It just feels like some real I don't have a 907 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 6: personal vendetta against Michael. 908 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 4: Jimmy made a comment. 909 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 3: Jimmy, we discussed it. I don't have a problem with Michael. 910 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 4: And we're not doing our jobs. If things make the 911 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,919 Speaker 4: news and comments are made, and they especially if it's 912 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 4: national newsworthy, right, and we don't talk about it, So 913 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 4: we we need to talk about these things. 914 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:50,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. 915 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 6: There is no personal thing that I have stored up 916 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 6: in me. I've said on this show, go back and 917 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 6: find it. In the beginning of the year, I I 918 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 6: called him the greatest. I called him the best defensive 919 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 6: play in the league in September. Now, if I had 920 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 6: a personal vendetta against. 921 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 3: Him, you also said nobody was going to beat the 922 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,399 Speaker 3: forty nine ers. I said healthy. I said healthy, forty 923 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 3: nine ers. They lost three grade law and. 924 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,439 Speaker 6: Let me stop, let me stop making excuses. But but yeah, 925 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 6: I don't. I don't have a personal I don't. I've 926 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 6: never said it. 927 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 7: I got a personal vendetta against who, against Coyle Boys 928 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 7: and not hiring Andrew ree. 929 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 4: Oh well, Jesse, we we we on this show. I 930 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 4: won't say we because Curtin Nate may have other opinions. 931 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 8: I don't think you have a person, bro, I know you. 932 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 8: I know you don't. 933 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,720 Speaker 7: Because if a guy's doing his job and going beyond, 934 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 7: I praise him. 935 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 8: Praise him. 936 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's the thing is like we conveniently in 937 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 6: this day and age now will will just bypass all 938 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 6: the other stuff, even even in the viral thing that 939 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 6: happened to the couple months ago. The first minute of 940 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,720 Speaker 6: the video, I'm saying this, how great of a player 941 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 6: he is, like an individual player. So I don't have 942 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 6: a personal thing against Micah. I think he's a great player. 943 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 6: There's room for improvement. That's just where I stand. I 944 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 6: said the same thing I said. Remember a couple of 945 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 6: years ago I said about Dak. I was like, like, 946 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 6: he's the. 947 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 3: Lead, many lead. 948 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 6: So it's just got when I said, I call it 949 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,399 Speaker 6: like I see it, That's just that's just what it is. 950 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, Dak, don't boy, Dak. All you gotta do is 951 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 8: not throw inceptions. 952 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 7: I promise you would be in every game in the player, 953 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 7: I do not throw those receptions. 954 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 6: This is gonna be a big this upcoming You an't 955 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 6: gonna be a big year for that, then. 956 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 9: Man, this schedule is gonna be this is this is 957 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 9: if that gonna win his m v P, It's gonna 958 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 9: be this upcoming year if you can, if you can 959 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 9: get through this gaun one of a schedule and get 960 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 9: this team. 961 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 6: You know, a number one seed or a number two seed, 962 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 6: And that's. 963 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 3: A whole show in and of itself. 964 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 4: Is this upcoming year for Dak I can't wait us 965 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 4: the and the and the schedule and the just the 966 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 4: implications of yeah, we could do a whole Yeah we. 967 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 5: Could really find and how committed to how much the 968 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 5: Cowboys believe in in with this contract situation? 969 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, oh the cowboys, so they in gotta be right in. 970 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you who got who gonna going out 971 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,240 Speaker 7: with problem? Who gonna be Jesse? Jesse gonna have problem 972 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 7: with what the contract is? 973 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 8: You hate the man. 974 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 4: To the next Thursday, nine o'clock. 975 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 6: Amy hate hate hate hate hate hate. 976 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,320 Speaker 4: Good stuff fellas good. 977 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,359 Speaker 3: New time, Got a new time. 978 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 4: It's nine o'clock on Thursdays up until training camps. 979 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 8: I just want to go at three thirty blew. 980 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 4: Oh that's nap time for date. They got to get 981 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 4: a nap in. Chris, thanks for keeping us all the 982 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 4: air jazz. Thanks for keeping Chris company. What's my man's name? 983 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 3: I mean, isn't that Josh Gosh? My bad brother. 984 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, y'all need to start with that old hate 985 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,399 Speaker 7: stuff on Jess forgiving y'all truth. If y'all don't know truth, man, 986 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 7: it's the wrong show. That's right, Leave that, bro. 987 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 4: We give voice the reason this. 988 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty four folks don't want truth. 989 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 4: Good seeing you this morning, Miss k Yeah, lady with 990 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 4: the green hair bag. 991 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 8: Then yeah, yeah, all right. 992 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 4: We will be back Thursdays. Get up early with us. 993 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 4: If not, just catch it on demand like everybody else. 994 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 4: But we'll be here nine o'clock Thursday mornings. Hanging with 995 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 4: the Boys. 996 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 997 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.