WEBVTT - #25 - JR Writer 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:14.200 Yes, welcome to another edition of the Bootleg cap Podcast, 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:19.479 episode number twenty five. Wow, twenty five episodes in. We 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:29.400 launched this podcast at the end of June, and unfortunately, unfortunately, no, fortunately, 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:33.200 we're at episode twenty five and everything's been very successful, 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.680 so you know, shit's going good man. Thank you to 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:40.120 everybody for all the positive feedback and the negative feedback. 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:42.680 You know, the funniest thing I saw on YouTube was 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:47.680 someone said that I had horrible posture on a YouTube comment, 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:51.640 and I gotta fix that. I don't want to have 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.960 bad posture, bro, I really don't want that to happen. 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:59.240 So been looking at all the feedback though, getting a 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:02.120 lot of positive feed back. Besides this white motherfucker don't 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:06.039 know rap music that seems to be the commonality amongst 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.360 most of the comments. But with that being said, go 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:10.880 fuck yourself. I know plenty more about hip hop than 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.720 you'll ever fucking know in your life. Anyway, Today's a 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:20.400 crazy day the election recording this the morning of November three, 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.199 and no matter where you fall on the political spectrum, 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.160 it's safe to say that this election is gonna be 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.720 like none we've ever seen in our entire life. So 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:34.920 fuck Donald Trump and let's see what happens tonight. We 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:40.560 got a dope episode today JR Ryder, who was a 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:44.600 part of like the new dip Set crew that you 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:47.800 know when when Dipset introduced, like hell Rel and Forty 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:51.320 Cow and Jarl Ryder, there was a real dope energy 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:55.720 about those three dudes, specifically hell Rel and Jarl Ryder. 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.000 It kind of felt like they were gonna take the 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:01.400 Dipset flag and run with it for like another ten years. Unfortunately, 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:06.400 that's not really what transpired. As we all know, there 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:11.680 was plenty of Dipset family issues and the gang broke up. 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:16.200 Gr Rider with Jail. But he's an incredible dude man, 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:21.480 incredible artist, incredible MC and I was just like, you 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:22.720 know what, he was just gonna come up here in 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:24.600 freestyle and I was like, Nah, fuck that man, Let's 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:26.720 do an interview, bro because I think we can have 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.080 a dope conversation. I've talked to JR in the past 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.360 and we had a dope conversation. So we do have 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:35.120 a freestyle with JR Rider coming out on Friday. And 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.000 if you guys have been paying attention, we started a 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:42.720 freestyle segment for the podcast for the YouTube that's gonna 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:47.640 be once a week, so if you subscribe to the 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:51.920 YouTube channel, you'll notice once a week we have a 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:53.840 new freestyle coming out. You know, we did Benny the 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:57.240 Butcher and Hem from BSF. We did Simba last week. 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:02.320 This week we'll have JR. Rider and Yeah, just trying 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.600 to just crank out as much dope content as possible. Also, 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:09.440 gonna be doing more episodes of the podcast that you know, 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:14.360 when we first started the podcast, we were doing I 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:17.200 was doing more. I did a couple of episodes rather 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:19.799 where I was just talking to my boy about shit 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:25.359 right like ranking albums and just kind of not necessarily interviews. 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.639 So I'm gonna start doing more of that, and we're 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:33.040 gonna start doing some live stream stuff on Twitch on YouTube. 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.240 So I'm excited to start doing that. 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Let's go ending up on TV with his wife. 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.599 It like hurt my whole entire soul. Dan, I'm such 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.680 a big jipset fan. I was like, damn, I mean, 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.680 I'm not saying that Jim Jones hasn't obviously, No, it's 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.120 a fact because that's what they said about social media. 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.719 How it kind of like ruins the mystery behind the artist, 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.680 the aura. It's like, oh, he's posting about everything. Was 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:44.919 when we was coming up, it was like I just 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:46.560 got what I got, all the mixtape and whatever it 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:48.720 was in the Double XL Yeah, and if you happen 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.320 to see somebody, you see them. But in whatever interview 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:55.120 they did on Rap City, yeah, exactly exactly or magazine 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.360 Double XL One of those, but now it's like now 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.800 it's like so transparent and they want they want you 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.800 to be transparent. Honestly, that's the only way niggas fuck 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.840 with you. Yeah, are you ready all right your butlet 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.360 cap podcast. We've got the writer of writers. Yeah, you 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:15.520 writers here, ladies, Jev, thanks for having me back. Man, welcome. 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.120 What's your first time on the boutleg Cap podcast. Yeah? 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.520 We actually had Real ninety two three before. Yeah, shouts 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.480 the DJ HADJ had, the covid is shut down the 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:27.320 radio station. Yeah, it's quiet, so we're here at my studio. Well, 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.440 how you been, man, I've been good man, just working. 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.039 So give give us like a rundown and everything you 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:36.440 got going on right now. I'm dropping the album October thirtieth. 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.640 I would call it an EP because my album coming 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.479 after like a few of those. But I'm dropping on 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:46.280 October thirtief this Friday. It's called I Really Wrapped. Two 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.880 shout outs to thirty eight Spett, shout outs to Royster 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.839 five to nine, shout outs to Davy, shouts the Fred money, 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:54.880 and shouts to all the producers on there that produced 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:57.880 fire top to bottom. You know, I don't play man, 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.719 You and take I take this serious. You got Royce there, Yeah, 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.520 me and Royce is serious. I didn't want to leak it. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:08.520 I just want people to hear when it when the projects. Now, 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.000 obviously most people know you from your dip Set times, 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:13.480 I want to kind of go back before that, kind 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:18.320 of give me your history of how you got into music. Man, Like, 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.840 we're like, like, at what year did you start taking 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:24.120 this shit serious? Obviously there was there was a jail 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.280 Rider before you started to work with Dip Set. Yeah, 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:28.960 hell yeah, I was eleven when I first started. I 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:33.679 was influenced by like Wu Tang Snoop Dogg, Tupac, Big 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.680 Big Punk, Big Al, you know what I mean. But yeah, 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:40.560 I started rapping as at eleven, twelve, thirteen, you know, 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:44.120 running the streets, battling, getting my making a name for myself. 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:47.960 And then somebody at sixteen, somebody introduced me to Killer 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.800 in hallm one day. So yeah, and then history from there. 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.720 So from sixteen on, you was just cam locked in 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:58.160 with you from sixteen and a yeah, a fact damn 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.920 showing me the ropes. You know, I was like I 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:04.400 was like a sponge around Jewels, around Kim around gym, 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.840 just you know, picking up little things from everything business 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.960 and at what point in time, So obviously sixteen years old, 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:14.000 you meet Cam? How long how long after that was 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:17.880 it before you actually you know, were officially Well, it 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.920 took me a minute because I had to prove myself, 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.400 you know, and we was like we're from Harlem, so 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.640 we always competitive. So Cam used to test me like 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.080 I was wild young, and it don't matter where it 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.480 was at. I'll take the train there, I'll walk there. 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.080 It didn't matter. I was that hungry. So you know, 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.440 he'll make sure I was on my toes. So anytime 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.040 I come around, he'll be like, yo, let me hear 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.080 some It could be a room full of people. Just 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.840 we could be at a bar right here, something and 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.360 if it sounds like something, I spit a w reck. 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:51.520 Now I heard that. Let me hear something else. Or 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:55.120 you falling off? Oh I know you ain't slacking. So 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.959 I never wanted that reaction from anybody. So I always 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.720 stayed on my toes and I always proved myself like 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.160 they didn't have to come to me, like I hear 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.679 is a video shoot, I'll pull up to the video 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.719 shoot with my mixtape done. Caim, Look, I'm don here. 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:11.360 I'm ready. I'm ready. I just need you to host it. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.680 I'm gonna put it out. What year? What year was? 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:15.839 Uh okay, I don't know how old you are, but 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.160 when you're sixteen and you first thirty five, So when 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.360 you when you're sixteen you first meet Cam, this is 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:25.079 around with the which era is this? This is after? 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.560 This is after? Yeah, this is around the time I 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:31.880 met him, right when Juel's got signed. Jim didn't even 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.480 have a deal yet. So was this around taking me home? No, 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:38.560 come home, Come Home? That's like a Drake song. Bro. 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.320 I just had this huge Drake argument all day to 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.160 day on the internet and I was just listening to 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:48.480 Drake's album in my car. He's all right, that's what 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.160 the argument was about. But no come home with me. 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:56.319 I feel like it was like Cam's like coming out party, uh, 0:09:56.520 --> 0:10:00.520 you know, his first project with Rockefeller, and I feel 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.640 like that kicked off the real Like obviously Dipset was 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:05.240 doing their thing with the mixtapte, and I feel like 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.320 that really kicked off the wave of like the movement 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:12.160 where it was felt nationwide like oh yeah, like Dipset 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.719 was something that wasn't just like New York's secret. You 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:17.440 know what I'm saying. No, that's a fact. Like I 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.760 don't know if Cam planned it or I really think 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.800 it probably happened naturally. But he has that confidence like 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.720 all of us from Halem has that confidence where it's 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.520 like this is this is what we're gonna do. Be, 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:31.640 We're gonna put out this, We're gonna we was like 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:35.160 the first dip set honestly was like the first rap 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:38.520 group to put out street mixtapes without DJs like the 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:43.000 DJ because usually you could debate, you could debate j Unit, 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.960 you could debate because they came out saying but they 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:47.880 still had like when you say with out of DJ, 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.360 like obviously they had who Kid and I think who 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:55.839 Kid was was DJ NO, but Caseills hosted I was 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.960 hosted the dip set ship. Yeah, so you were around 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:02.800 during You might not have been official yet, but you 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:06.079 were around like the diplomatic community wave Like, yeah, I 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.280 was supposed to be on the first album, but the 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:11.800 song me and Kim and mheard McGruff from Harlem shouts 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:16.720 to him. We had didn't get cleared. So little things 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.160 like that, I felt like God put in my in 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:21.760 my path, in my way for me to go harder 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:25.439 from haters to little little obstacles like that to where 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:28.520 it's like not easy for me, so I can always 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:30.800 stay on my toes and always focus. But you was 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.240 around during that time, No I was around. I was 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.079 just crazy. That's like, YO, tell me about those times, man, 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:39.640 because I just remember vividly as a kid buying the 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:43.560 Double XL where everybody was in there with the Thames 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:45.640 and that was like when I first saw like I 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:48.440 really got to kind of like figure out who Jim 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:52.520 Jones was. Yeah, I forget everybody had jerseys on in 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:56.480 the ex Double Jerseys, Michelle Times and shit, I remember 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.160 that you're vividly like the airbrush toms and all that. 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:02.360 Ye yep, But like, what was it like being around 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.400 that energy because we look at it now and it's 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:08.400 like we missed that in hip hop? You know. I 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:14.120 think dipset is so nostalgic to so many people. To me, 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.360 you know specifically, I remember, you know, just like that 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.559 whole era, just just just the feeling that it brought 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.880 to the game, and like, I feel like it's missing, 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.400 but you were there for it, Like did you realize 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.960 like how special this shit was at the time? Because 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:28.800 at the time, it wasn't like Dipset was like the 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.360 commercially the biggest ship, but it was like in this 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.600 it was like culturally so big, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.680 Like obviously, Kim had hit records, Jewels had hit records, 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.920 but I mean like like culturally they meant so much 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.800 at that time. Did you know, like what you were 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:46.439 part of at that time when you were like a kid. 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:48.960 Reason I even got damn with Kim and Hollered as 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.960 somebody to get me to him is because he him 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.720 and Jim and Juelle's already had that wave already where 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.959 it was just a hood wave where it's like everybody knew. 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.280 I mean, I'm pretty sure other places knew about Joel's 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:06.320 in the beginning or whatever off cam sde album, but 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:12.079 but uh, like uh, the mixtapes and and and those 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.400 albums or whatever had them as her legends already. So 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.080 me just you know what I mean, getting down with 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.960 them at that time was like a dream come true. 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.720 It's like, Yo, that's like somebody being from Brooklyn getting 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.160 signed with Jay Z, or somebody being from la and 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.959 getting down with Snoop Dogg dog Pam. You know, what 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:30.959 I'm saying. But it was just it was magical. It's 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:32.920 like you know what I mean, because it's like I 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.920 would come in and you know they swag. Is just 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:38.840 like or I was swag because I was there. But 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.400 I'm just saying, I'm looking from the outside, looking at 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.280 you know what I'm saying. But it was just it 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:45.880 was dope. It was dope, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.280 Just from the fashion to the from to the touring 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:54.360 to the radio freestyles. Uh uh everything from when we 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.440 was at the bottom to where we at the top. Everything, 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.480 the whole, the whole uh run we had was was 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:03.560 just epic. It's dope. Do you remember how you were 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.320 when you officially finally got your name on the on 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.720 the contract with Cam. I was eighteen years old. I 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.800 remember because uh we was on the tour bus and 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:14.400 I was waiting for the because we was on the 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:18.800 tour for U diplomatic community too, and I wanted to 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:23.160 uh oh, matter of fact, Cam wanted me. Cam like yo, 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:24.800 I wanted the tour to be over. Matter of fact, 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.000 I'm like, damn, I want to get back and pick 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:28.960 up my check because I had just signed or whatever, 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.240 And Cam like nah, be. You ain't picking up the 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.200 check until y'all drink a whole box of scissor. We 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:41.320 celebrated drink. It was like a hundred nips. I remember. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.520 It was just like dumb hot. But I ain't gonna 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:46.240 hold you. I was happy, you know what I'm saying, 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:47.840 And I ain't care. I'm like, I'm gonna drink at 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:51.640 least half a box and tell him I'm sick. But yeah, 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.440 you know that was that was. That was dope, you 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.840 know what I'm saying. Soon as we got back, I signed. 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:57.720 I remember that was my last time I took the 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:01.320 train and somebody talked my ear off death, like, yeah, 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.480 what you're doing on the train, don't worry. It should 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.280 be the last time, yo. How I never got the 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.560 trices or was it good? Yeah? It was good. It 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:11.560 was good. I mean, it's just different. It was just 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.440 what was it? Because I just remember seeing that like 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.200 the sources ship like I wasn't old enough to drink 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.880 obviously it was. It had to flavor like a like 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:28.880 a like uh hypnotic hypnotics, purple hit like a purple hypnotic, 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:30.680 you know what I mean type of taste. I missed 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:32.960 that whole wave in life. I've never even drank hypnotic 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.320 and I'd like to consider myself a mild alcoholic man. 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.840 But that but that's how Yeah, but then you was 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:44.640 drinking incredible hawks. But anyway, but okay, okay, okay, but 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.640 look missed that whole Waven life. That's how you know, 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.440 the the just the aura, our aura. How crazy it 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.920 was because Jim had that idea. And you know, when 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:57.560 an artist says, yo, I'm gonna come up with my 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.480 own liquor and all that, it doesn't matter where he 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.680 at at his in his career. It's dope, it's salutable. 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:06.880 But we care about your music more than the sil 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.840 things that you're coming out with. But every when we 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.320 came out with that, everyone ran with it. That bottle 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.280 was like a rose bottle in the hood. Everywhere we went, 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:18.720 it was just it was just fire. I mean, just 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.360 to you know, we was that influential. I mean when 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.600 I toured the world, that's when I really realized how 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:27.760 big dipset was. Going to Japan, Switzerland, Sweden, you know, 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:32.480 all those places on my own at that Yeah, that's crazy. 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.680 Fast forward a year and a half or two ago, 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.800 when did when did you when did you guys drop 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.520 your your project you upstage? How long ago was that? 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.480 It was like last year of the year twenty eighteen, 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:48.640 so yeah, so about two years ago. What do you 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:51.080 guys dropped it the same day as Dipset dropped their 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.880 shit h the same day as Diplomatic Community, and then 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.200 I remember hitting play on it and I was on 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:00.280 the intro. You guys used like a question should I 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.440 asked Jim in an interview like as the intro, and 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:06.320 I was like, oh, and that's I think. I was, Yeah, yeah, 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:07.960 you said thanks for the shoutout that so I'm like, 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:09.719 you know what, let me hit him No, But uh, 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:15.080 I think that there's like, what's your relationship like with 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.040 everybody in the crew now? Because I feel like that 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.560 kind of felt like there might be some some you know, 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:23.320 obviously you guys dropped like the record, no reunions, like 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.040 is there any static? It's just a bunch of us 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.159 and we're not always on the same page, you know 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.760 what I'm saying. So you know it's all love, It's not. 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.080 It wasn't like on some I I'm gonna put out 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.600 the album and as a disk, you know what I'm saying, 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:38.600 or as a response. It's like, Okay, I hear that 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.280 they putting out an album, let's do our own version. 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.680 Since we can't do I ain't get no phone call, 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.640 but I'm not gonna lie. A week before I was releasing, 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.000 Joel's had called me, you know what I'm saying, to 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.280 get on the album. But this is before he was 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.000 locked up by right, Oh yeah cool, tell you yeah, 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.800 shout the Jewels. He just came home. But it wasn't Yeah, 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.879 it wasn't no static. But as far as now, I 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:03.560 got no problems with nobody. I supposed to. I supposed 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.600 to gym, I speak to duels, you know what I mean? Here, 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:09.280 it seems like Cam is the one who consistently Cam 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.879 is the one that messed everything up. Nah, but it 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:15.000 just seems it feels like he's the guy who's like 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.159 I feel like Jim and Jewels are always cool. I 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.240 feel like it's always like a Cam thing, at least 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.720 from the outside looking in as a fan, Like, yeah, 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:24.920 I mean, you know, Cam is Cam is Kim. You 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:26.679 know what I'm saying. He's he's gonna move on his 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:29.760 own time, So it is what it is. Do you 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.680 know how he felt about you? Guys doing that about 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.320 doing the project. Yeah, I heard from from somebody that 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.359 he probably mad at me. But you know, so have 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:42.639 you kill No? I haven't. No, I haven't, but shouts 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:44.480 to Kim. You know what I'm saying, he doing business 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.960 with my guy Ryan. We got a whole CBD company 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.920 coming out or whatever, call legends of him where we're 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:54.399 doing you know, lines with different legends or whatever. You know, 0:18:54.640 --> 0:19:00.480 check out that. Do you find it a gift in 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:05.240 a curse? Being associate Like obviously with being a part 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.400 of dip set and the allure in the history, there's 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:11.800 always a built in fan base for that. Like it's 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:15.159 almost like you know fan base by its like as 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:17.920 soon as like you, like somebody finds out your dip set, 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:21.600 like right now with Tde, some if TDE signed somebody, 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.159 they got crazy fans that are just gonna fuck with 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:26.159 that artist no matter what. Is that a gift in 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:29.120 a curse to kind of like always carry the dip 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:33.280 set like with you, like, like, is it it's a 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:37.080 gift in a curse? Because it's like sometimes a person 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:40.640 might not know how to answer a certain question at 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:42.880 a certain moment, you know what I'm saying, Because it's 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:44.360 it's a bunch of us, you know what I'm saying. 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.760 Plus that name is attached to anywhere I go. Whether 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:50.399 I do an interview next week, them questions are gonna 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:52.159 come up, you know what I'm saying. So, but I 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:54.399 don't think it's a it's a curse at all, you 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:55.800 know what I mean. I don't think it's a curse 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:58.119 because I help build that, you know what I'm saying. So, 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:00.200 I don't think it's a curse. Yeah, we talk about Harlem, 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:03.560 and Harlem's got such a crazy history. I remember the 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:06.240 first time I ever went to New York, the first like, 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.000 one of the only things that I care to do 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:09.640 is go to Harlem and take a picture in front 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:12.119 of the big album mural. Oh yeah, we were just 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:15.399 out there. I had the Ferrari out there. Yeah, baby 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:17.080 mom at the time. We took the train and I 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:18.679 was like, look, I just need to get this one picture. 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:21.280 You know what I'm saying. That's crazy. We win ate 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:24.119 at what's the soul food spot there? The big popular 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.360 soul food place you talk about Rufe Chris, You're talking 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:32.440 about soul food spot Amy Rooths my bad, Yeah, Sylvia's. 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.360 I went to Sylvias. Yeah, yeah, Fred is more outside 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:37.160 than me. I'm in the studio all day, he said, 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.600 I'm in Fred, that's him, that's I'm outside. You gotta 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:44.360 come outside. Yeah. So, like you've obviously been putting in work, 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:48.400 but like with with with the new project, Davey somebody 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:52.119 also who you know is one of the greats the 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:57.240 at the city right now? Is it? Like you you 0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:59.200 mentioned that there's gonna be an album. How do you 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.240 separate what's on the EPO what's on the album? Like 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.320 do you tuck certain ship like this is the album? Shit? 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:07.680 So yeah, because I with albums we had, I got 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:12.080 songs that are like they sound like album cuts with 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:14.920 my EPs or my mixtapes on my street albums or 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:16.840 whatever you want to label them. As long as they 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.919 not it's not called the album. It's more of a 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:24.440 like a I'm proving myself. I still got it, I'm 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:27.399 still better than everybody. This is how I'm coming. So 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:29.719 you know what time it is when this album is dropping. 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:32.280 See the album, you'll have some of that, but you'll 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:35.560 have more of a mixture of concepts and real songs 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:37.880 laid out with hooks and you know what I mean. 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:41.399 Few skits. This is the get warmed up again. I 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:43.719 haven't put nothing out in two years, so it's crazy 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:47.760 to think how how how big of a wrench was you? 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:49.800 You going to jail man? Do you think in your momentum? 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:52.479 Because I felt like you had so much momentum. It 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:54.280 was a good That's a gift in the curse, honestly, 0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:56.959 because the curse is taking me away from my family, 0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:59.800 taking my freedom away obviously, and taking my career away 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:02.320 for the moment, what about the gift part. The gift 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:05.760 is uh, snapping me out of it and keeping me 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:09.159 focused and waking me up. It just made me away. 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:12.320 It got me back into books and really has me 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:17.360 more focused. Like two years. I mean, yeah, that's that's 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:20.840 a lifetime in hip hop. Yeah, that's that's yeah. I 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:23.920 mean if I wasn't. I mean, you look around all 0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:29.200 the top top rappers of what how old are they? Yeah, dude, 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:32.720 I just had this conversation with Benny, like Benny's old, 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:36.680 Like damn, Benny's like an older Like you know, we 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:40.360 look like generic hip hop fans look at Griselda as 0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:42.399 these new artists. Because it came up like, well, for 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:45.360 these guys have been grinding for a minute, like these 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:47.320 guys are my age, like, yo, Like, these guys aren't 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:49.600 new rappers. You're just hearing them now, but these are 0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:51.879 grown ass men. You know what I wanted to ask Benny. 0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:54.159 I wanted to see because back in the day, I 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:57.199 always heard the name Black Sopranos, so I wanted to 0:22:57.240 --> 0:22:59.440 know if they always if he always went with that 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:02.040 with that, I think that that's been around for a while, 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:06.639 yo Oka. Yeah, and then even Griselda didn't become Griselda 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.879 officially until I think like twenty sixteen. It was I 0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:12.000 forget what West Side Gun had, what the name of 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:15.440 his label was prior to that. But yeah, the Buffalo shit, Yeah, 0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:19.520 they got it on smash. How inspiring is that to 0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:24.239 see like bars the shit you Yeah, it's five. It 0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:28.520 gets me. It gets me. It gets me like jealous, 0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:31.600 but not in a bad way, and it gets me motivated. 0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:35.080 But that's what that's what the two thousands used to 0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:39.720 do for me, Like the Fabs, Jada Kiss albums, Lloyd 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:44.719 Banks freestyles, like all of those freestyles and dudes that 0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:48.200 was really lyrical, from Stack Bundles to everybody that was 0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:52.760 that was really rapping. It's like they kept me on 0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:56.400 my toes for one for two. They motivated me. When 0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:59.560 it's like it's like I'm hating and I'm motivated at 0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:01.560 the same time. I was like, Oh, we killed that. 0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:04.520 I gotta go crazy the next time I go up there, 0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:07.280 I gotta go crazy on the next freestyle. I do 0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:11.120 you know what I'm saying? Because now though, I mean, well, 0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:16.479 before Griselda and after the two thousands, obviously it just 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:19.320 was drop man. It's like, yeah, you know, if you 0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:22.080 were paying attention there. It wasn't like if you were 0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:26.280 like a super you know, underground head. But like definitely 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.400 on the on the forefront year though the ship is. 0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:32.520 I always say like the dark years are like twenty 0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:36.680 seventeen through twenty nineteen when the SoundCloud shit really took over. 0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:39.879 It was bad man. There was like even when I 0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:42.920 came a little Pump a little Pump era. Yeah, that 0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.399 that era, that shit was. I mean it's still going on, 0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:47.840 nah that. I think that shit's finally dying out, man, 0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.680 I really do. Like I think all that Antiqus shit, 0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:55.680 all that shit like perfect fading out six nine shit. Everybody, 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:58.000 it was like a fucking car crash. Nobody could look away, 0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:01.160 but then when the music came out, no one cares. Yeah. 0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:03.320 I think it was more about let's see what's gonna 0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:07.639 happen in the antics. Yeah, like all you know, his 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:11.439 story is insane, Like whenever they make his movie, like, 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:13.680 I'm gonna watch it because it's a crazy story. Like 0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:16.439 if someone just told you that mm hm, and like 0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:18.440 without knowing who he was or having any sort of 0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:21.920 personal feelings to it, you'd be like, nah, that's crazy, 0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:26.320 fam normal, Like look like that's a movie you'd watch because, 0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:28.040 like the ship is, it's a crazy story. But yeah, 0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:31.960 I think that that whole wave of like people being 0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.320 known more for the bullshit they pop on their cloud 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.080 than their music. I think COVID low key kind of 0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:39.600 helped too, because people aren't standing on couches and clubs 0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:42.720 right now. They're like that's the fact they're consuming music 0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:45.800 in their headphones, got their cars. Yeah, you gotta wrap 0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:48.360 And that's I think it's it's helping bring a lot 0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:52.280 of the dope ship to to the like yeah, because 0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.840 if you look the week that they need a butcher 0:25:55.320 --> 0:26:01.360 black Dot, Freddy Gibbs hist gives tons of dope shit 0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:04.760 is throw got thirty eight specially. Yeah, thirty eight Spash 0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.480 is crazy and he's been nice. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:09.560 for sure, he's crazy. I need to get him up here. 0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.280 Yeah yeah. Him and Benny's project was crazy a couple 0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.679 of years ago. But yeah, I think, like you know, 0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:18.320 with you, I think it's like it's it's like you said, 0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:19.879 like it was a gift in the curse that you 0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.840 you know, went away. And so how different was the 0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:27.920 like the dynamic of the crew from when you went 0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.560 into when you got out. When I went in, it 0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:34.000 was already it was still like fractured. Yeah, it was. 0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.560 It was like everybody doing their own thing. I mean 0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:39.480 it was like that before, but we moved as a unit. 0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:43.480 I think fame and money it just made like our 0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:46.480 circle crowded because now once we all popped, now we 0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:49.359 all got an entourages and now it's not just us, 0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:53.560 it's all of us. It's like this enterage, that enterrage, 0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:56.200 that entourage. So I don't know, I just think maybe 0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.719 a complicated things, but it's all love. It's not like 0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:00.920 I think if Kim was to pick up the phone 0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:04.040 and call anybody, he could make a dips ever union 0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:07.120 happen anytime. No, for sure, Yeah, no, I think he's 0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:10.960 got that. Yo. We were just talking about how back 0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:14.879 in the day dipset it was like a thing like 0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:18.919 a signature to rhyme the same words, to rhyme the 0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.320 same words. Yeah, I think, in my heart, I think 0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:24.400 Jewel started that. No, for sure, that's a Jewel statement. All. 0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.600 I just was listening to some throwback freeze that he 0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:29.520 had and that was the first because I studied lyrics 0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:31.320 for real, and that's the first time I seen that 0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.720 scheme where he's. Cam wasn't doing that on like SDE 0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:37.840 and even come Home. Cam started doing that after Jewel's, 0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:40.159 but it didn't really matter because Joel's is his all this, 0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:43.159 you know what I'm saying. So, but yeah, Jewell's I 0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.520 think Jewel started that when he said, you think a 0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:49.479 good jobs making twenty five an hour got cats selling 0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.440 twenty five twenties by the hour, That's what he's saying. 0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:56.240 And I'm the one paying. I'm twenty five an hour. Yeah, nah, 0:27:57.040 --> 0:28:02.240 twenty five for what told you? Like, Yo, they go 0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:05.359 ride the same shit, but it's it's it means something 0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:07.960 different every time. Every time. It's like it makes it 0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:11.600 that much harder. Yeah, facts, facts it's almost harder to 0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:15.040 do that than rhymen it with a new word. That's easy. Yeah, yeah, 0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:16.879 you know what I was just telling. I had my 0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:20.600 video shoot for this song nothing Means Nothing off my 0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:25.760 album off my EP coming out October thirtieth, Friday, Yeah Friday, 0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.000 feature in thirty eight, So that's just coming out Monday, 0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:32.160 So this will be out already, dope. So the EP's out. Yeah, 0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:35.879 EP is out. Go get that And if you watching this, 0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:38.680 then you already know the EP. Crazy and if you don't, 0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.040 then go listen to that. But anyway, I was just 0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:43.360 shooting a video in the heights with my god thirty 0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:45.760 eight specially. I was telling them because on the verse 0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:50.280 that he spit, he rhymed for like thirty two bars, 0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:54.640 but the same rhyme, like the same how you explain it, 0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:57.440 like the same rhyme and pattern, Like he never switched 0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:02.160 the rhyme scheme, huh know, the scheme like the yeah, 0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:05.920 like he's never yeah like that, he just rhymed with 0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:08.880 not the same words, but the same scheme. Yeah, the 0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:12.000 same scheme, like it's never switched out to rhyme with 0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.440 anything else. And it was fired straight through. I'm like 0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:18.200 that's fire. That's impressive to keep that going because it's 0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:20.480 so easy to just say two lines and then switch 0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:22.360 it again and then and then a lot of these 0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:26.040 rappers they don't rhyme multiple syllables. So to me, this 0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.440 don't be sounding impressive, but I know to the people 0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:32.200 it's like, nah, that was real shitty kick though. Yeah, 0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:35.440 I think everybody has their own thing. I think, you know, 0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:40.520 there's artists who say things in an extremely simple way, 0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:44.440 but the way they say it is the character, you know, 0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.520 the way they say it. You know, I think that 0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:50.240 there's guys who rap really fucking fast. They don't say anything, 0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:56.040 but they all flow. That's just the flow. And there 0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:57.800 are there are people who could do both. There's people 0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:00.440 who rap like that that are fucking fired, like m 0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:03.040 yeah am Tech nine. Like there's some dudes who could 0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.280 really get down. But like, I think that just everybody 0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.800 has their own thing, like you know, and then there's 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:11.080 guys like Royce who are like fucking old Knights Jed Eyes, 0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:15.680 like Race to Fight nine can do is elite. It's crazy. 0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:17.960 Do you like get like intimidating when you know you're like, 0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:19.600 did you first of all, do you know Race is 0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:21.480 getting on the record like or is it something you 0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:23.160 send to him. I'm gonna be real with you, bro, 0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:26.200 I ain't intimidated by nobody's work in a session with 0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:28.920 Low Wayne. Low Wayne my gotto. But Race is a 0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:31.960 much better rapper than Lil Wayne. For the record, it's ablatable. 0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.960 Lil Wayne is bigger, It's debatable. I don't know, man, 0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:36.920 Race is a fucking murderer. Bro. I gotta be in 0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:39.120 a student with Royce to really because I witnessed this 0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:43.880 man wheezy like it's different off the top record diverse 0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:47.840 and say I don't like the middle, erase the middle 0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:49.640 and then go back in and just no, not go 0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:51.960 back in. He's still live and do it right there 0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:54.800 after he said a Race. Yeah, so you you've seen 0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.320 Wayne's creative process. What is that like? Is it no pen? 0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:01.160 Is it no pen? No pen? It's just you might 0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:04.160 listen to the beat a few times, chuckle, laugh a 0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:06.040 little bit, and then walk to the boot. Is he 0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:10.360 just punching as he goes? No? One shot deal really, 0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:12.000 And if you don't like a line or he don't 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.040 like to go back and fix it, you just say, yeah, 0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:16.720 let's do that over, do you? How do you do 0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:19.600 your thing because obviously you're the writer, writer one tape, 0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:23.280 you know what I mean? You don't write down anything? No, no, no, okay, yeah, right, 0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:26.040 because I trying to force myself to bust my brain 0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:28.080 to try to remember that. But yeah, I notice nowadays, 0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:33.240 like uh, a lot of rappers, especially now with the 0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:36.080 way like melody infused music has like kind of taken over, 0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:39.800 Like a lot of artists. They will just go into 0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:42.680 the boots and then they're like they'll lay down like 0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:46.520 the melody like and then to it and then they'll 0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:48.719 just punch in line by line. It's like that's like 0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:52.800 when somebody needs a ghost writer. You you you let 0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:54.960 me hear the beat and you tell me like you 0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:57.440 mumble to it. This is the type of flow flow 0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.760 because now you need the word no, I've seen it. 0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:02.520 It's it's actually a reference. It's it's like, yo, they'll 0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:04.360 lay that down and then they'll sit there and smoke 0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:07.720 and listen and then they'll go in and just punching. No. 0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.120 But it's but that's it. But it's it's it's still creative. 0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:13.560 It's still creative. It's just not I feel like it's 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:16.840 harder to be able to say what you want to 0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.400 say and get your point across without thinking about it 0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:24.840 too much because Bobby ram and multiple words meaning multiple 0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:29.080 things at the same time, with metaphors, punch lines, and 0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.400 it's just it's just, you know, I'm a fan of that. 0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.280 That's know what I'm saying. When we're talking about Harlem, 0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:37.160 who do you have as your top five? Harlem? Mcs 0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:52.080 ever ever ever on Big l Mace Cam, not me yourself? Damn, 0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:56.320 I thought it was more than three from I think 0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:58.960 Davis is making his way into that kind of is 0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:02.320 a young legend, that's my But he's still catalog though. Man, 0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:04.840 he's still young. He's got a lot of catalog. Yeah, 0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:08.280 Davis is my god. David's Yeah, Dave's is definitely. He's 0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:11.280 definitely up there. But as far as my top five, 0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:17.920 I would say, Big ol Cam Mace, do you got 0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:20.200 who else? Out of respect? You put asab Rocky in 0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:23.240 there just because of the wave that he created. As 0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:27.440 far as maybe not lyrically, he's not literally there. Asad 0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:31.120 Rocky is nice though now he's under a different type 0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:34.040 of rapper. He's a little bit more creative when it 0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:37.160 comes to like putting together rhyms and songs and it's 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:40.000 dope still, but it's not that type of rap, the 0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:45.160 big pun that type of rap that I was influenced by, Like, 0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:47.920 oh yeah, but ain't really like he might not even 0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:53.080 know who. Of course, come on man, okay, Bodega Bams 0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.360 is fire. He I don't know that's got in that conversation, 0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.280 but he's that's my guy. He does. He's definitely deserves 0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:01.200 my ship, you know what, I deserve a shot because 0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:03.960 he's nice. He definitely from Harlem or not. We're not 0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:08.360 thinking of somebody bro. Yeah, g depth, but he just 0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.399 wasn't a wasn't even am child of the ghetto. Oh 0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:14.560 that ship was so fire. It was so good. I 0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:18.799 mean I think at that one album crazy yeah yeah yeah, 0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:23.160 but he's like he did catch your body, they find himself, 0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.520 you know what's crazy. I was like in Poughkeepsie performance 0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:30.120 turned himself in. Yeah, before he turned himself in. I 0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:33.680 was in Poughkeepsie performing and and then I'm on stage 0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:37.480 rapping and I see somebody get on stage with like 0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:41.799 a big colorful bubble coat, and I'm like, I ain't 0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:43.959 coming nobody. I could see it from from the side 0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:47.080 of my eyes. So I look as g Debt and 0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:49.960 he's just like going crazy. But he looked a little 0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:51.759 like off. So I'm like, you know, I talked to 0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:56.920 him afterwards, we spoke. He was there. Yeah, I'm just 0:34:56.920 --> 0:34:58.880 trying to remember a clear but shouts to him. He 0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:01.440 was just that was before he turned himself in, so 0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:03.360 I knew it was something a little bit, a little 0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:06.840 bit off for shots to him. He's still a hallm legend. Yeah, Mace, 0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.080 I feel like there's and also get enough respects at 0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:12.560 mc mace was crazy yea, get all the pross of 0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:14.759 my books now. I just feel like in general we 0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:19.160 talk about like overall, you're saying crazy run Man, Crazy Run. 0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.440 Double Double Up was a little disappointing, but you know, 0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:25.120 he was trying to get out that contract. That's how 0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:26.399 I looked at it. He was trying to get away 0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:28.160 from There was some there was like two records on 0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.799 Double Up. But I remember buying Double Up and I 0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:33.439 was like, oh damn, because he was trying to match 0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:36.640 it up with that Hall the World album. Oh yeah, 0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:38.960 that's right, the Harlem World album. They came out like 0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:42.080 that's the triple plot. They came out super That's when 0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:44.400 he was trying. He tried to he dropped double up 0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:46.879 to get out his contract with Puff. That's what he's 0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.480 trying to do. And he was like pretty much he 0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:51.359 said it like he was kind of forced to put 0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.640 that guy put together that album whatever. When you were 0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.480 a kid, was like when him and Cam and Big 0:35:56.640 --> 0:36:02.680 L was that like movement known in Harlem, like it 0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:05.480 was Children of the Corn, right, Yeah, but that was 0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:08.480 like I was too young for that. Yeah. Yeah, I 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.440 mean once I got older, I doubled back and listened, 0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:13.839 But I was too young for that. People don't even 0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:17.480 realize that Mace had like an entire you know, Murder 0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:21.280 Mace was a real thing. Yo. It was so crazy 0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:25.319 when Mace came back as like with the Jesus shit 0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:27.640 and then he went back to the gangster shit with 0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:30.719 G Unit for like one mixtape. I was so confused. 0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.759 I was like what, But honestly, I'm at the same time, 0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:36.680 I might have been confused, but I was hyped though. 0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:40.960 I'm like, Okay, Murder back on Murder Time, Okay, Yeah 0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.680 that didn't work out though, And then he went back 0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:48.480 to the the Welcome Back album with the Brewers hat 0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.680 on and then yeah, I actually got to meet Mace. 0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:54.839 Very nice guys. You have you have you ever worked 0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.879 with Mace? Nah? No, yeah, you got to bring Murder 0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:00.560 Mace back for a verse. Man love to do it 0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:03.239 soon with Mace. Mace is a legend, of course, manig 0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:05.239 one of the biggest to do it from home. Oh 0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:09.920 for sure, I would argue Peak if we're measuring Peak 0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.960 the biggest. Yeah, I mean he's the only artist I 0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:16.200 know that. When I'm talking at that, I'm not talking 0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.040 about total run or influence on the culture, but I'm 0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:23.040 talking about like commercial success Peak wise for like a year, 0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:27.920 Cam and Mace. It's it's one of these two commercial 0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:32.399 Mace is fucking who you think had was bigger? Oh 0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:36.200 Mace you think so? Oh yeah, why you think that? 0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.680 Oh that's like that because he has songs with Mariah 0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:42.960 Because Cam, No, I think it's I think it's like 0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:49.520 hard like bro that that like twelve month fucking run. 0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:52.680 Mace was like the guy. Well he brung Cam in 0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:57.680 for sure. No, you're right, Yeah, Confessions of Fire, I remember, like, 0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.360 fucking I fuck with that originally because Mace was on it. 0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:04.000 What was the song on that album where he was 0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:06.640 talking about his aunt or his mom or some crazy ship. 0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:08.719 It was some wild ship. The song was actually called 0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:11.279 Confessions of Fire Bucket. He ain't say that though, he 0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:13.960 ain't say them. Not the mom of the arm throw 0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:19.000 you're talking about. You're talking about when I write that 0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:21.600 poodle and try to turn the poodle into theles on 0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:24.040 confession the song Confessions of Fire. He said, that's when 0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:26.759 he's confession. Hey, look up the lyrics and that's to 0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:28.560 the song. That's what I'm telling you. But he ain't 0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:32.040 saying he said on there about oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:33.759 he might have said. He said no, he said, see 0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:36.759 what that dust does. He said he was saying a 0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:39.040 bunch of off the crazy ship, and I was like, 0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:40.880 this guy is crazy. I don't know if it was no. 0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:43.400 I don't think he said the mom but it was. 0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:45.520 It was some ship that was like off the wall 0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:47.759 like that though, where I was like, oh this guy, 0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:50.680 camera is different, I asked him. I said yo, I 0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:53.880 say yo, flee while you switch the style. So now 0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:57.560 you know, trying to take my ship man see eminem 0:38:57.640 --> 0:39:00.640 Rain with the whole ship. Let him have it. But 0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:02.359 he was doing it before that. He was doing that 0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:05.200 dark ship on the on Confessions of like for high kids. 0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:08.520 You want you like violence, bro, because I remember thinking 0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:10.319 like there was the Horse and Carriage record, and then 0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:12.840 I bought the album and I was like, oh no, 0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:15.880 this is something. There's some other This ship is dark. 0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:20.240 He's yeah, yeah, look him up. Eric. You know what 0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:23.799 what was dope to? Uh uh? The joon with him 0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:27.759 and o dB. That was classic. Oh yeah, what do 0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:30.360 you what do you think is Camp's best album? His 0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:36.319 best overall album. I'm gonna go purple. I mean I'm 0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:39.279 a Purple Hayes guy, though Purple Hays. Yeah, fucking that 0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:41.040 Killer Can be that he make his beat. It's like 0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:42.719 the craziest beat. I don't know if that was a 0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:45.600 sample whatever it was, whoever did the killer come? I 0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:47.680 was like, oh no, that was that was our pristive 0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:51.160 shout out to my guy Prestige. It did sample, sounded 0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:54.319 like Killer Can, but he came in and sung it 0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:56.719 over and they made it as a sample like try 0:39:56.760 --> 0:40:02.640 to alter it. So fuck my fuck mom and father shove. 0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:05.600 He said, I fucked my own and I fucked my 0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:10.120 mom to die. But when my girl got side of minds, 0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.880 I was trauma died. Shove the dick down the throat Okay, okay, 0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:18.319 I said, man, fucking age test. Oh yeah, no, no, no no, 0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:22.600 don't you cut that Up't gonna do the deal with 0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:24.960 you now, fucking up Cam. I was trying to get 0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:27.680 he was in l a earlier this week, and my boy, 0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:29.200 I was trying to get him to come through. That's 0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:32.120 like a bucket list interview for me. Killer of course, 0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:36.439 the Killer shout to the whole set, I have your phone, sir, 0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:44.200 all good buddy, SAO plugging CBD. Yeah, shouts to my guys, 0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:47.080 my guys, Ryan, Henry and the good guys over at 0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.319 Legends of Legends of Hemp. You know what I mean. 0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:54.840 We got some some dope ideas coming, man, CBD, CBDs drops, 0:40:54.880 --> 0:41:01.719 CBD energy shots, CBD lines, what else massage? Oh it 0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:06.040 was vape pens. We got a whole load of stuff coming. 0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:10.799 So so the CBD uh side of the game, you 0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:18.960 guys got on locked pretty much. Listen, you're not on 0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:21.840 the mic, buddy. So I tried to get him to 0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:23.880 brief me on the way, but I couldn't remember everything. 0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:27.880 But yeah, you know, CBD is a worldwide markets exactly. 0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:30.879 You know, it's not restricted like a marijuana type of thing. 0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:33.760 So you can ship worldwide and you know it's healthy. 0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:37.120 It's like, you know that's fair. Are you a healthy guy? 0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.239 Of course? Tell you I dropped twenty pounds. But since 0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:42.640 the last time I came in, how did you? What 0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:44.440 did you do to lose the weight? I do Keto 0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:47.400 and Bro, I got on Keto and lost weight and 0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:49.200 then I got off it and now I'm fat again. 0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:52.000 Well I'll be off and on and I don't I 0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.800 don't know it works, it works, yo, Like you go 0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:58.920 months strictly on Keto. Bro. What I did was I stopped. 0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:02.040 I did the I start doing the kiddo, but I 0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:04.719 cancel my gym umber shit, and I ordered the not 0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:08.160 to track treadmill, put it in my credit ball, and 0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:10.919 I just walk up yeah. Yeah, And I just walk 0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:13.719 walk up hill for ten to fifteen minutes before every 0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:16.640 meal and then workout at night. You know what I'm saying. 0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:18.640 Do you do do everything with the studio in the crib? 0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:21.640 I canceled, Yeah, I did that. I did that right 0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:26.480 before COVID, Right before COVID hit. People are saying that, uh, 0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:28.919 there's like a big exodus out of New York right now, 0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:31.839 like people are moving and ship. Have you noticed like 0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:34.959 people leaving. Nah. I heard like Manhattan's got like forty 0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:37.920 thousand open apartments right now, just a live bro really 0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:41.520 not gonna live Hell no, bro, Well ship for everyone's 0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:43.879 rent price purposes, you can of you know that'd be nice, 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:47.719 right yeah, hell yeah, i'd be. I'd be like thinking like, yo, no, 0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:52.560 everybody's not paying five thousand a month, especially for these apartments. 0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:54.680 Like you enter these apartments because these apartment has been 0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:57.200 there for years. Even the hotels are fucked up, You'll 0:42:57.239 --> 0:42:59.160 be like, I just spent six hundred hours in the hotel. 0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:01.720 Is the size of my closet? Yeah? No, it's nothing 0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:06.000 like in New York are so small there's nowhere to 0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:09.520 put your ship. Like wait what there's nothing like l 0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:12.400 a hotel's you like, you'll get it on Expeedia and 0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:15.840 then you'll get in and you'll be like, wait, element 0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:18.560 you see that you got you have some old pictures up? Yeah? No, 0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:21.359 that shit crazy? Nah? Yeah, because I know with with 0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:23.920 with the COVID ship, like I heard that just a 0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:26.319 lot of people are a lot of people are leaving 0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:30.600 California because it's so expensive. L A be clubs LA. 0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.360 I'm not gonna lie, no, I mean, it's great. I 0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:35.719 could never live in New York. I love visiting New York, 0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:38.000 but I'm a West Coast guy and just the why 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:40.600 you feel that, I just don't like like everybody's just so, 0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:47.440 everybody's obnoxious everything. It's just you go outside and it's stress. 0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:51.439 My fucker is walking down the streets. Yeah, they got 0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:54.680 their fucking game face on. It's like out here, I 0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:57.839 could go outside and not see nobody. No I hear that. 0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:00.799 You'll you'll walk past and they'll say what's up. Yeah. 0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:04.880 But even like, it's impossible to avoid strangers in New 0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:08.080 York if you're gonna have a life, to go to work, 0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:11.040 to go whatever you have to out here, I can 0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:13.040 drive from point A to point B and have zero 0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:15.600 interactions with people. I don't know. That's how Jersey is. 0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:19.360 New York is so like you gotta get on the 0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:21.600 train or even you gotta walk to get to Like 0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.160 it's just a lot, bro And in the parking situation, 0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:27.839 you gotta pay for a parking space every month. All 0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:31.239 kinds of crazy. Yeah, the only thing out here is 0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:37.040 that tras. But when I moved here, the radio stations 0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:42.480 in Burbank and Burbank's pretty expensive. But I purposely was like, 0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:44.880 I'm gonna eat ship and pay more money so I 0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:47.960 never have to get on the freeway. So I got 0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:50.960 my studios right here in Burbank North Hollywood area, the 0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:53.359 radio stations in burt Oh, this is Burbank. This is 0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:55.920 the Burbank North Hollywood like border. So if you go 0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.560 like half a mile that way, you're in Burbank radio station, 0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:00.160 like five minutes from here. So I was like, you 0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.440 know what, like, I'm gonna just pay more for my rents. 0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:04.279 I don't have to deal with what you said, because 0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:07.480 that's where everybody, like the traffic get you fucking stressed 0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.640 out thinking about that ship out here. Yeah, Bro, the 0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:13.560 GPS says seven minutes. It took me seventeen minutes. Bro, 0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:15.480 it was traffic for no reason. Then I had to 0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:19.560 tell when it cleared up, I told the drive, I'll say, oh, bro, drive, 0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:24.359 what are you doing? You know, it's definitely I would 0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:26.840 probably rather still deal with the traffic than have to 0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:29.759 like deal with the people, deal with the trains. Oh, 0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:33.160 to deal with the trains. Yeah, there's no trains. I 0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:34.879 mean there is, bit I don't think people really don't 0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:37.359 take them like that. Oh, it's not like that. It's 0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:39.640 like a Jersey train. Jersey's not here in New Jerseys. Y. 0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:44.000 One time I fell asleep in New York. I was 0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:48.200 on the train and I fell asleep. I woke up 0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:51.440 and you woke up. I woke up in Spanish Harlem. 0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:54.400 Oh that wasn't that fall, but no. I took it 0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:57.520 from like downtown and I woke up in Spanish Harlem. 0:45:57.640 --> 0:45:59.680 It was like three in the morning, Bro, I get, oh, 0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:01.960 come up, and I'm like, but you still good? And 0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:04.040 three in the morning and Spanish hall them. You lucky. 0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:08.400 You ain't wake up in Hunt's Point And I was like, okay, damn, 0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:10.480 this is so. This is Spanish harlot. So I'm like 0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:12.600 trying to walk around and find my entrance into the 0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:14.319 subway to get to the other way, and I'm like 0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:17.120 at the time, I'm like real tight with bodega bam. 0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:18.959 So I remember hitting them and I'd be like, hey, bro, 0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:23.440 I'm right here in my camera here because I just 0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:26.160 woke up and got off the train. No, Spanish Halem 0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:28.719 is dope and it's cool. I mean, it's laid back, yo. 0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:32.279 Harlem is a vibe. Bro. I just think it's like 0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:34.160 like I felt like if I remember every like you know, 0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:35.759 there's a few times I talked about moving to New 0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:36.880 York and I was like, Yo, if I'm gonna move 0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:38.840 to New York, I'm not either living in Jersey or Harlem, 0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:43.920 because Harlem is like still technically it's it's still technically 0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:47.480 it's like the first burrow outside of like like if 0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:50.640 you're going towards like you're leaving Manhattan. It's part of man. 0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:54.920 It's part of man Man. But yeah, we got Manhattan, Harlem, 0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:58.719 Washington Heights that's old Manhattan and Washington Heights is oh 0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:04.719 my bad ellie. Yes, Manhattan, Halem, Washington Heights like big, 0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:08.319 big Spanish area, right yeah, Dominican shout my dominicanos up there. 0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:11.120 And then from there it's the Bronx. Then it's the Bronx. 0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:13.520 Maybe a few blocks away. You could just cross a 0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:19.239 little bridge. You in the Bronx, shout out to the Bronx. Man. Yeah, 0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:21.799 what do you think? Why do you think for people 0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:24.400 who don't who are from New York, Man, every single 0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:27.719 borough has its own flavor. It's it's very different. Like 0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:29.880 you could go to Brooklyn and it's like you feel 0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:32.400 like you're in a whole nother place. Even parts of Brooklyn. 0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:37.800 Now you're like fucking hipster motherfuckers everywhere, and then you 0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:41.560 you know, five minutes away, it's a dangerous place. Yeah. 0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:44.080 Is that most of New York is like most of 0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:46.520 New York becoming gentrified? Or is it still like No, 0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:51.640 it's just some because Brooklyn is fucking crazy, yeah, Central, 0:47:52.200 --> 0:48:01.480 I mean the hipster Willisburg. Okay, I don't really know 0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:03.000 Brooklyn like that. I ain't gonna hold you. Yeah, I 0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:07.080 try to stay away from Brooklyn. Brooklyn, serious Brooklyn, serious 0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:12.880 white girls with fucking armpit hair and ship you know 0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:15.959 what I'm saying. Yeah, New York is. Yeah, I remember 0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:22.280 it was like versus like people that were originally there. Okay, 0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:28.000 I knew. I knew Brooklyn was different. When my guys 0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:30.960 the Wave Gag they didy go by the wool, now 0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:33.279 you know what I mean. But they had me in 0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:37.160 Brownsville projects. Okay, I just remember Brownsville by the way, 0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:39.440 shout out to mop just reading about Brownsville as a 0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:40.960 kid in the Double E solth Yeah, they had me 0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:44.040 in Brownsville projects. And when I got there, like when 0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:47.279 I went to the when I really seen the projects firsthand. 0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:51.120 That's when I seen like, this is totally different from Harlem. 0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:54.359 This is nowhere in Hallam. A't got nothing on this. 0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:57.160 This is different. This is like walking past the police 0:48:57.200 --> 0:48:59.760 with a bottle of rose and they don't say ship 0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:03.280 like this is different, Like they all they care about 0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:05.360 his shootouts and they might not even they might not 0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:08.520 even walk up. They're gonna call for backup. It's just 0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:13.000 dark over there. It's different. Yeah, It's like it's different, bro. Yeah, 0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:16.520 I just I just vividly remember reading Billy Dan's in 0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:18.600 a Little Fame talking about how they used to shoot 0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:22.480 people off like they used to They used to just 0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:25.279 shoot people off the top of their built like like 0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:32.000 they were snipers or met them too. Crazyest neighborhood all 0:49:32.000 --> 0:49:33.880 in New York and all in New York that you've 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:39.319 been to, many that I've been to. Damn, they gonna 0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:41.279 be mad at me. I can't just say one yeah 0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:44.000 nah they you know, No, Brownsville is like the crit 0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:47.799 to me in New York. Nah, in New York because 0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:50.160 see if I say no, now it's like words. So 0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:54.520 we ain't gangster like that. Nah. But I think Brownsville 0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:57.279 honestly Brownsville is different. It was. It would be some 0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:03.239 people from East New York that'll tell you Brownsville for real. Brownsville. Yeah, 0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:06.359 man shout out to MP. Yes, sir, First Family Z owned. 0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:08.480 You know what I'm saying, Yes, sir. Well look your 0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:11.760 ep is out. Yeah, go get that. I really wrapped 0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:15.880 two out now on a platforms. Yeah. Album on the way, 0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:18.400 but I'm gonna drop another EPC. That's the problem I've 0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:21.440 been having is like I dropped the upstage. It got 0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:24.759 a nice response. I fell back for two You guys, 0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:26.840 you can't fall back no more. Bro, Yeah, no, so 0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:28.840 I'm not today. Listen, let me tell you if I 0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:30.680 can give you any advice in today's world, bro, just 0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:34.160 keep dropping NonStop. And you're independent, right facts, So just dude, 0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:36.920 run up your independent catalog, get that nice fucking monthly 0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:40.759 residual income coming in, Yeah, and run it, bro, Like 0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:44.600 take a page out of what like Riselda is doing 0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:47.200 as far as like the quantity of music they're dropping 0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:50.279 and own all of it. You know what would would 0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:52.640 spark me to do that? Thirty I had a cold 0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:55.640 conversation with thirty eighth stage specially another example, just like yo, 0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:57.239 he looked at me, like, Yo, why you holding onto 0:50:57.239 --> 0:51:00.400 the music for show? Now? This is not this is 0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:02.880 not the same era, right, It's not the era to 0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:05.399 hold on the music. But see, I was always don't 0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:08.200 overthink your rollout, don't overthink any of that ship I was. 0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:11.120 I was always accustomed to one album a year, that's 0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:13.359 how you do it. Drop five albums a year. That's 0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:16.480 what I'm gonna start doing. Dropping next month again November thirty. 0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:20.520 Perfect facts, just keep going dog and like then you 0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:24.759 know you'll be like, yo, damn these monthly fucking what's 0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:27.680 your distro? Are you doing? Like tone Core distroc right now, 0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:30.240 I'm putting this project out through video shouts the video. 0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:32.680 But I got tom Core, I messed with different like 0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:36.279 I got my brother all that distro kid. You know, yeah, 0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:39.160 it'll work pretty much to say, yeah, I own my mask. 0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:41.120 I just I just got my master's back from my 0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:43.279 Warner Brothers for one of my albums. Now I'm trying 0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:45.120 to get my first album that was number two in 0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:48.400 the country. Hopefully they give it back to me Cotch Records, 0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:53.160 One Man and y'all owe me some money too. But 0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:56.160 I'm not gonna make a big deal let's work things out. 0:51:56.480 --> 0:52:00.239 You know. E one is uh, what's the guy name? 0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:05.240 Elliet Ellie? What's Alan Grumblett? Shout out to Steve Lobel. 0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:07.560 We'll try to get to Steve. Steve's real, real close 0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:08.960 friends with him. I can try to make that happen 0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:11.319 for you. Yeah, let's do that. Boom Well, listen, man, 0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:14.840 we got a freestyle dropping tomorrow. So this is Monday, 0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:19.759 Today's Monday. Tomorrow they'll be It's going down jail rder freestyle, Yes, sir, 0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:24.120 boom perfect, all right, cool play the beat in there, 0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:25.919 hang out ball. They switch out to set