Speaker 1: Yes, welcome to another edition of the Bootleg cap Podcast,
Speaker 1: episode number twenty five. Wow, twenty five episodes in. We
Speaker 1: launched this podcast at the end of June, and unfortunately, unfortunately, no, fortunately,
Speaker 1: we're at episode twenty five and everything's been very successful,
Speaker 1: so you know, shit's going good man. Thank you to
Speaker 1: everybody for all the positive feedback and the negative feedback.
Speaker 1: You know, the funniest thing I saw on YouTube was
Speaker 1: someone said that I had horrible posture on a YouTube comment,
Speaker 1: and I gotta fix that. I don't want to have
Speaker 1: bad posture, bro, I really don't want that to happen.
Speaker 1: So been looking at all the feedback though, getting a
Speaker 1: lot of positive feed back. Besides this white motherfucker don't
Speaker 1: know rap music that seems to be the commonality amongst
Speaker 1: most of the comments. But with that being said, go
Speaker 1: fuck yourself. I know plenty more about hip hop than
Speaker 1: you'll ever fucking know in your life. Anyway, Today's a
Speaker 1: crazy day the election recording this the morning of November three,
Speaker 1: and no matter where you fall on the political spectrum,
Speaker 1: it's safe to say that this election is gonna be
Speaker 1: like none we've ever seen in our entire life. So
Speaker 1: fuck Donald Trump and let's see what happens tonight. We
Speaker 1: got a dope episode today JR Ryder, who was a
Speaker 1: part of like the new dip Set crew that you
Speaker 1: know when when Dipset introduced, like hell Rel and Forty
Speaker 1: Cow and Jarl Ryder, there was a real dope energy
Speaker 1: about those three dudes, specifically hell Rel and Jarl Ryder.
Speaker 1: It kind of felt like they were gonna take the
Speaker 1: Dipset flag and run with it for like another ten years. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: that's not really what transpired. As we all know, there
Speaker 1: was plenty of Dipset family issues and the gang broke up.
Speaker 1: Gr Rider with Jail. But he's an incredible dude man,
Speaker 1: incredible artist, incredible MC and I was just like, you
Speaker 1: know what, he was just gonna come up here in
Speaker 1: freestyle and I was like, Nah, fuck that man, Let's
Speaker 1: do an interview, bro because I think we can have
Speaker 1: a dope conversation. I've talked to JR in the past
Speaker 1: and we had a dope conversation. So we do have
Speaker 1: a freestyle with JR Rider coming out on Friday. And
Speaker 1: if you guys have been paying attention, we started a
Speaker 1: freestyle segment for the podcast for the YouTube that's gonna
Speaker 1: be once a week, so if you subscribe to the
Speaker 1: YouTube channel, you'll notice once a week we have a
Speaker 1: new freestyle coming out. You know, we did Benny the
Speaker 1: Butcher and Hem from BSF. We did Simba last week.
Speaker 1: This week we'll have JR. Rider and Yeah, just trying
Speaker 1: to just crank out as much dope content as possible. Also,
Speaker 1: gonna be doing more episodes of the podcast that you know,
Speaker 1: when we first started the podcast, we were doing I
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Speaker 1: twenty five. Let's go ending up on TV with his wife.
Speaker 1: It like hurt my whole entire soul. Dan, I'm such
Speaker 1: a big jipset fan. I was like, damn, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Jim Jones hasn't obviously, No, it's
Speaker 1: a fact because that's what they said about social media.
Speaker 1: How it kind of like ruins the mystery behind the artist,
Speaker 1: the aura. It's like, oh, he's posting about everything. Was
Speaker 1: when we was coming up, it was like I just
Speaker 1: got what I got, all the mixtape and whatever it
Speaker 1: was in the Double XL Yeah, and if you happen
Speaker 1: to see somebody, you see them. But in whatever interview
Speaker 1: they did on Rap City, yeah, exactly exactly or magazine
Speaker 1: Double XL One of those, but now it's like now
Speaker 1: it's like so transparent and they want they want you
Speaker 1: to be transparent. Honestly, that's the only way niggas fuck
Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, are you ready all right your butlet
Speaker 1: cap podcast. We've got the writer of writers. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: writers here, ladies, Jev, thanks for having me back. Man, welcome.
Speaker 1: What's your first time on the boutleg Cap podcast. Yeah?
Speaker 1: We actually had Real ninety two three before. Yeah, shouts
Speaker 1: the DJ HADJ had, the covid is shut down the
Speaker 1: radio station. Yeah, it's quiet, so we're here at my studio. Well,
Speaker 1: how you been, man, I've been good man, just working.
Speaker 1: So give give us like a rundown and everything you
Speaker 1: got going on right now. I'm dropping the album October thirtieth.
Speaker 1: I would call it an EP because my album coming
Speaker 1: after like a few of those. But I'm dropping on
Speaker 1: October thirtief this Friday. It's called I Really Wrapped. Two
Speaker 1: shout outs to thirty eight Spett, shout outs to Royster
Speaker 1: five to nine, shout outs to Davy, shouts the Fred money,
Speaker 1: and shouts to all the producers on there that produced
Speaker 1: fire top to bottom. You know, I don't play man,
Speaker 1: You and take I take this serious. You got Royce there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: me and Royce is serious. I didn't want to leak it.
Speaker 1: I just want people to hear when it when the projects. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously most people know you from your dip Set times,
Speaker 1: I want to kind of go back before that, kind
Speaker 1: of give me your history of how you got into music. Man, Like,
Speaker 1: we're like, like, at what year did you start taking
Speaker 1: this shit serious? Obviously there was there was a jail
Speaker 1: Rider before you started to work with Dip Set. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, I was eleven when I first started. I
Speaker 1: was influenced by like Wu Tang Snoop Dogg, Tupac, Big
Speaker 1: Big Punk, Big Al, you know what I mean. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I started rapping as at eleven, twelve, thirteen, you know,
Speaker 1: running the streets, battling, getting my making a name for myself.
Speaker 1: And then somebody at sixteen, somebody introduced me to Killer
Speaker 1: in hallm one day. So yeah, and then history from there.
Speaker 1: So from sixteen on, you was just cam locked in
Speaker 1: with you from sixteen and a yeah, a fact damn
Speaker 1: showing me the ropes. You know, I was like I
Speaker 1: was like a sponge around Jewels, around Kim around gym,
Speaker 1: just you know, picking up little things from everything business
Speaker 1: and at what point in time, So obviously sixteen years old,
Speaker 1: you meet Cam? How long how long after that was
Speaker 1: it before you actually you know, were officially Well, it
Speaker 1: took me a minute because I had to prove myself,
Speaker 1: you know, and we was like we're from Harlem, so
Speaker 1: we always competitive. So Cam used to test me like
Speaker 1: I was wild young, and it don't matter where it
Speaker 1: was at. I'll take the train there, I'll walk there.
Speaker 1: It didn't matter. I was that hungry. So you know,
Speaker 1: he'll make sure I was on my toes. So anytime
Speaker 1: I come around, he'll be like, yo, let me hear
Speaker 1: some It could be a room full of people. Just
Speaker 1: we could be at a bar right here, something and
Speaker 1: if it sounds like something, I spit a w reck.
Speaker 1: Now I heard that. Let me hear something else. Or
Speaker 1: you falling off? Oh I know you ain't slacking. So
Speaker 1: I never wanted that reaction from anybody. So I always
Speaker 1: stayed on my toes and I always proved myself like
Speaker 1: they didn't have to come to me, like I hear
Speaker 1: is a video shoot, I'll pull up to the video
Speaker 1: shoot with my mixtape done. Caim, Look, I'm don here.
Speaker 1: I'm ready. I'm ready. I just need you to host it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it out. What year? What year was?
Speaker 1: Uh okay, I don't know how old you are, but
Speaker 1: when you're sixteen and you first thirty five, So when
Speaker 1: you when you're sixteen you first meet Cam, this is
Speaker 1: around with the which era is this? This is after?
Speaker 1: This is after? Yeah, this is around the time I
Speaker 1: met him, right when Juel's got signed. Jim didn't even
Speaker 1: have a deal yet. So was this around taking me home? No,
Speaker 1: come home, Come Home? That's like a Drake song. Bro.
Speaker 1: I just had this huge Drake argument all day to
Speaker 1: day on the internet and I was just listening to
Speaker 1: Drake's album in my car. He's all right, that's what
Speaker 1: the argument was about. But no come home with me.
Speaker 1: I feel like it was like Cam's like coming out party, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, his first project with Rockefeller, and I feel
Speaker 1: like that kicked off the real Like obviously Dipset was
Speaker 1: doing their thing with the mixtapte, and I feel like
Speaker 1: that really kicked off the wave of like the movement
Speaker 1: where it was felt nationwide like oh yeah, like Dipset
Speaker 1: was something that wasn't just like New York's secret. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. No, that's a fact. Like I
Speaker 1: don't know if Cam planned it or I really think
Speaker 1: it probably happened naturally. But he has that confidence like
Speaker 1: all of us from Halem has that confidence where it's
Speaker 1: like this is this is what we're gonna do. Be,
Speaker 1: We're gonna put out this, We're gonna we was like
Speaker 1: the first dip set honestly was like the first rap
Speaker 1: group to put out street mixtapes without DJs like the
Speaker 1: DJ because usually you could debate, you could debate j Unit,
Speaker 1: you could debate because they came out saying but they
Speaker 1: still had like when you say with out of DJ,
Speaker 1: like obviously they had who Kid and I think who
Speaker 1: Kid was was DJ NO, but Caseills hosted I was
Speaker 1: hosted the dip set ship. Yeah, so you were around
Speaker 1: during You might not have been official yet, but you
Speaker 1: were around like the diplomatic community wave Like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was supposed to be on the first album, but the
Speaker 1: song me and Kim and mheard McGruff from Harlem shouts
Speaker 1: to him. We had didn't get cleared. So little things
Speaker 1: like that, I felt like God put in my in
Speaker 1: my path, in my way for me to go harder
Speaker 1: from haters to little little obstacles like that to where
Speaker 1: it's like not easy for me, so I can always
Speaker 1: stay on my toes and always focus. But you was
Speaker 1: around during that time, No I was around. I was
Speaker 1: just crazy. That's like, YO, tell me about those times, man,
Speaker 1: because I just remember vividly as a kid buying the
Speaker 1: Double XL where everybody was in there with the Thames
Speaker 1: and that was like when I first saw like I
Speaker 1: really got to kind of like figure out who Jim
Speaker 1: Jones was. Yeah, I forget everybody had jerseys on in
Speaker 1: the ex Double Jerseys, Michelle Times and shit, I remember
Speaker 1: that you're vividly like the airbrush toms and all that.
Speaker 1: Ye yep, But like, what was it like being around
Speaker 1: that energy because we look at it now and it's
Speaker 1: like we missed that in hip hop? You know. I
Speaker 1: think dipset is so nostalgic to so many people. To me,
Speaker 1: you know specifically, I remember, you know, just like that
Speaker 1: whole era, just just just the feeling that it brought
Speaker 1: to the game, and like, I feel like it's missing,
Speaker 1: but you were there for it, Like did you realize
Speaker 1: like how special this shit was at the time? Because
Speaker 1: at the time, it wasn't like Dipset was like the
Speaker 1: commercially the biggest ship, but it was like in this
Speaker 1: it was like culturally so big, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like obviously, Kim had hit records, Jewels had hit records,
Speaker 1: but I mean like like culturally they meant so much
Speaker 1: at that time. Did you know, like what you were
Speaker 1: part of at that time when you were like a kid.
Speaker 1: Reason I even got damn with Kim and Hollered as
Speaker 1: somebody to get me to him is because he him
Speaker 1: and Jim and Juelle's already had that wave already where
Speaker 1: it was just a hood wave where it's like everybody knew.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm pretty sure other places knew about Joel's
Speaker 1: in the beginning or whatever off cam sde album, but
Speaker 1: but uh, like uh, the mixtapes and and and those
Speaker 1: albums or whatever had them as her legends already. So
Speaker 1: me just you know what I mean, getting down with
Speaker 1: them at that time was like a dream come true.
Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, that's like somebody being from Brooklyn getting
Speaker 1: signed with Jay Z, or somebody being from la and
Speaker 1: getting down with Snoop Dogg dog Pam. You know, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But it was just it was magical. It's
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, because it's like I
Speaker 1: would come in and you know they swag. Is just
Speaker 1: like or I was swag because I was there. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm looking from the outside, looking at
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But it was just it
Speaker 1: was dope. It was dope, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Just from the fashion to the from to the touring
Speaker 1: to the radio freestyles. Uh uh everything from when we
Speaker 1: was at the bottom to where we at the top. Everything,
Speaker 1: the whole, the whole uh run we had was was
Speaker 1: just epic. It's dope. Do you remember how you were
Speaker 1: when you officially finally got your name on the on
Speaker 1: the contract with Cam. I was eighteen years old. I
Speaker 1: remember because uh we was on the tour bus and
Speaker 1: I was waiting for the because we was on the
Speaker 1: tour for U diplomatic community too, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: uh oh, matter of fact, Cam wanted me. Cam like yo,
Speaker 1: I wanted the tour to be over. Matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I want to get back and pick
Speaker 1: up my check because I had just signed or whatever,
Speaker 1: And Cam like nah, be. You ain't picking up the
Speaker 1: check until y'all drink a whole box of scissor. We
Speaker 1: celebrated drink. It was like a hundred nips. I remember.
Speaker 1: It was just like dumb hot. But I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: hold you. I was happy, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And I ain't care. I'm like, I'm gonna drink at
Speaker 1: least half a box and tell him I'm sick. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that was that was. That was dope, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Soon as we got back, I signed.
Speaker 1: I remember that was my last time I took the
Speaker 1: train and somebody talked my ear off death, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what you're doing on the train, don't worry. It should
Speaker 1: be the last time, yo. How I never got the
Speaker 1: trices or was it good? Yeah? It was good. It
Speaker 1: was good. I mean, it's just different. It was just
Speaker 1: what was it? Because I just remember seeing that like
Speaker 1: the sources ship like I wasn't old enough to drink
Speaker 1: obviously it was. It had to flavor like a like
Speaker 1: a like uh hypnotic hypnotics, purple hit like a purple hypnotic,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean type of taste. I missed
Speaker 1: that whole wave in life. I've never even drank hypnotic
Speaker 1: and I'd like to consider myself a mild alcoholic man.
Speaker 1: But that but that's how Yeah, but then you was
Speaker 1: drinking incredible hawks. But anyway, but okay, okay, okay, but
Speaker 1: look missed that whole Waven life. That's how you know,
Speaker 1: the the just the aura, our aura. How crazy it
Speaker 1: was because Jim had that idea. And you know, when
Speaker 1: an artist says, yo, I'm gonna come up with my
Speaker 1: own liquor and all that, it doesn't matter where he
Speaker 1: at at his in his career. It's dope, it's salutable.
Speaker 1: But we care about your music more than the sil
Speaker 1: things that you're coming out with. But every when we
Speaker 1: came out with that, everyone ran with it. That bottle
Speaker 1: was like a rose bottle in the hood. Everywhere we went,
Speaker 1: it was just it was just fire. I mean, just
Speaker 1: to you know, we was that influential. I mean when
Speaker 1: I toured the world, that's when I really realized how
Speaker 1: big dipset was. Going to Japan, Switzerland, Sweden, you know,
Speaker 1: all those places on my own at that Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Fast forward a year and a half or two ago,
Speaker 1: when did when did you when did you guys drop
Speaker 1: your your project you upstage? How long ago was that?
Speaker 1: It was like last year of the year twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: so yeah, so about two years ago. What do you
Speaker 1: guys dropped it the same day as Dipset dropped their
Speaker 1: shit h the same day as Diplomatic Community, and then
Speaker 1: I remember hitting play on it and I was on
Speaker 1: the intro. You guys used like a question should I
Speaker 1: asked Jim in an interview like as the intro, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, and that's I think. I was, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you said thanks for the shoutout that so I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, let me hit him No, But uh,
Speaker 1: I think that there's like, what's your relationship like with
Speaker 1: everybody in the crew now? Because I feel like that
Speaker 1: kind of felt like there might be some some you know,
Speaker 1: obviously you guys dropped like the record, no reunions, like
Speaker 1: is there any static? It's just a bunch of us
Speaker 1: and we're not always on the same page, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you know it's all love, It's not.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like on some I I'm gonna put out
Speaker 1: the album and as a disk, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: or as a response. It's like, Okay, I hear that
Speaker 1: they putting out an album, let's do our own version.
Speaker 1: Since we can't do I ain't get no phone call,
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna lie. A week before I was releasing,
Speaker 1: Joel's had called me, you know what I'm saying, to
Speaker 1: get on the album. But this is before he was
Speaker 1: locked up by right, Oh yeah cool, tell you yeah,
Speaker 1: shout the Jewels. He just came home. But it wasn't Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't no static. But as far as now, I
Speaker 1: got no problems with nobody. I supposed to. I supposed
Speaker 1: to gym, I speak to duels, you know what I mean? Here,
Speaker 1: it seems like Cam is the one who consistently Cam
Speaker 1: is the one that messed everything up. Nah, but it
Speaker 1: just seems it feels like he's the guy who's like
Speaker 1: I feel like Jim and Jewels are always cool. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's always like a Cam thing, at least
Speaker 1: from the outside looking in as a fan, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Cam is Cam is Kim. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He's he's gonna move on his
Speaker 1: own time, So it is what it is. Do you
Speaker 1: know how he felt about you? Guys doing that about
Speaker 1: doing the project. Yeah, I heard from from somebody that
Speaker 1: he probably mad at me. But you know, so have
Speaker 1: you kill No? I haven't. No, I haven't, but shouts
Speaker 1: to Kim. You know what I'm saying, he doing business
Speaker 1: with my guy Ryan. We got a whole CBD company
Speaker 1: coming out or whatever, call legends of him where we're
Speaker 1: doing you know, lines with different legends or whatever. You know,
Speaker 1: check out that. Do you find it a gift in
Speaker 1: a curse? Being associate Like obviously with being a part
Speaker 1: of dip set and the allure in the history, there's
Speaker 1: always a built in fan base for that. Like it's
Speaker 1: almost like you know fan base by its like as
Speaker 1: soon as like you, like somebody finds out your dip set,
Speaker 1: like right now with Tde, some if TDE signed somebody,
Speaker 1: they got crazy fans that are just gonna fuck with
Speaker 1: that artist no matter what. Is that a gift in
Speaker 1: a curse to kind of like always carry the dip
Speaker 1: set like with you, like, like, is it it's a
Speaker 1: gift in a curse? Because it's like sometimes a person
Speaker 1: might not know how to answer a certain question at
Speaker 1: a certain moment, you know what I'm saying, Because it's
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of us, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Plus that name is attached to anywhere I go. Whether
Speaker 1: I do an interview next week, them questions are gonna
Speaker 1: come up, you know what I'm saying. So, but I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a it's a curse at all, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't think it's a curse
Speaker 1: because I help build that, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a curse. Yeah, we talk about Harlem,
Speaker 1: and Harlem's got such a crazy history. I remember the
Speaker 1: first time I ever went to New York, the first like,
Speaker 1: one of the only things that I care to do
Speaker 1: is go to Harlem and take a picture in front
Speaker 1: of the big album mural. Oh yeah, we were just
Speaker 1: out there. I had the Ferrari out there. Yeah, baby
Speaker 1: mom at the time. We took the train and I
Speaker 1: was like, look, I just need to get this one picture.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's crazy. We win ate
Speaker 1: at what's the soul food spot there? The big popular
Speaker 1: soul food place you talk about Rufe Chris, You're talking
Speaker 1: about soul food spot Amy Rooths my bad, Yeah, Sylvia's.
Speaker 1: I went to Sylvias. Yeah, yeah, Fred is more outside
Speaker 1: than me. I'm in the studio all day, he said,
Speaker 1: I'm in Fred, that's him, that's I'm outside. You gotta
Speaker 1: come outside. Yeah. So, like you've obviously been putting in work,
Speaker 1: but like with with with the new project, Davey somebody
Speaker 1: also who you know is one of the greats the
Speaker 1: at the city right now? Is it? Like you you
Speaker 1: mentioned that there's gonna be an album. How do you
Speaker 1: separate what's on the EPO what's on the album? Like
Speaker 1: do you tuck certain ship like this is the album? Shit?
Speaker 1: So yeah, because I with albums we had, I got
Speaker 1: songs that are like they sound like album cuts with
Speaker 1: my EPs or my mixtapes on my street albums or
Speaker 1: whatever you want to label them. As long as they
Speaker 1: not it's not called the album. It's more of a
Speaker 1: like a I'm proving myself. I still got it, I'm
Speaker 1: still better than everybody. This is how I'm coming. So
Speaker 1: you know what time it is when this album is dropping.
Speaker 1: See the album, you'll have some of that, but you'll
Speaker 1: have more of a mixture of concepts and real songs
Speaker 1: laid out with hooks and you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Few skits. This is the get warmed up again. I
Speaker 1: haven't put nothing out in two years, so it's crazy
Speaker 1: to think how how how big of a wrench was you?
Speaker 1: You going to jail man? Do you think in your momentum?
Speaker 1: Because I felt like you had so much momentum. It
Speaker 1: was a good That's a gift in the curse, honestly,
Speaker 1: because the curse is taking me away from my family,
Speaker 1: taking my freedom away obviously, and taking my career away
Speaker 1: for the moment, what about the gift part. The gift
Speaker 1: is uh, snapping me out of it and keeping me
Speaker 1: focused and waking me up. It just made me away.
Speaker 1: It got me back into books and really has me
Speaker 1: more focused. Like two years. I mean, yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: a lifetime in hip hop. Yeah, that's that's yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean if I wasn't. I mean, you look around all
Speaker 1: the top top rappers of what how old are they? Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: I just had this conversation with Benny, like Benny's old,
Speaker 1: Like damn, Benny's like an older Like you know, we
Speaker 1: look like generic hip hop fans look at Griselda as
Speaker 1: these new artists. Because it came up like, well, for
Speaker 1: these guys have been grinding for a minute, like these
Speaker 1: guys are my age, like, yo, Like, these guys aren't
Speaker 1: new rappers. You're just hearing them now, but these are
Speaker 1: grown ass men. You know what I wanted to ask Benny.
Speaker 1: I wanted to see because back in the day, I
Speaker 1: always heard the name Black Sopranos, so I wanted to
Speaker 1: know if they always if he always went with that
Speaker 1: with that, I think that that's been around for a while,
Speaker 1: yo Oka. Yeah, and then even Griselda didn't become Griselda
Speaker 1: officially until I think like twenty sixteen. It was I
Speaker 1: forget what West Side Gun had, what the name of
Speaker 1: his label was prior to that. But yeah, the Buffalo shit, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got it on smash. How inspiring is that to
Speaker 1: see like bars the shit you Yeah, it's five. It
Speaker 1: gets me. It gets me. It gets me like jealous,
Speaker 1: but not in a bad way, and it gets me motivated.
Speaker 1: But that's what that's what the two thousands used to
Speaker 1: do for me, Like the Fabs, Jada Kiss albums, Lloyd
Speaker 1: Banks freestyles, like all of those freestyles and dudes that
Speaker 1: was really lyrical, from Stack Bundles to everybody that was
Speaker 1: that was really rapping. It's like they kept me on
Speaker 1: my toes for one for two. They motivated me. When
Speaker 1: it's like it's like I'm hating and I'm motivated at
Speaker 1: the same time. I was like, Oh, we killed that.
Speaker 1: I gotta go crazy the next time I go up there,
Speaker 1: I gotta go crazy on the next freestyle. I do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Because now though, I mean, well,
Speaker 1: before Griselda and after the two thousands, obviously it just
Speaker 1: was drop man. It's like, yeah, you know, if you
Speaker 1: were paying attention there. It wasn't like if you were
Speaker 1: like a super you know, underground head. But like definitely
Speaker 1: on the on the forefront year though the ship is.
Speaker 1: I always say like the dark years are like twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen through twenty nineteen when the SoundCloud shit really took over.
Speaker 1: It was bad man. There was like even when I
Speaker 1: came a little Pump a little Pump era. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: that era, that shit was. I mean it's still going on,
Speaker 1: nah that. I think that shit's finally dying out, man,
Speaker 1: I really do. Like I think all that Antiqus shit,
Speaker 1: all that shit like perfect fading out six nine shit. Everybody,
Speaker 1: it was like a fucking car crash. Nobody could look away,
Speaker 1: but then when the music came out, no one cares. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it was more about let's see what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen in the antics. Yeah, like all you know, his
Speaker 1: story is insane, Like whenever they make his movie, like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it because it's a crazy story. Like
Speaker 1: if someone just told you that mm hm, and like
Speaker 1: without knowing who he was or having any sort of
Speaker 1: personal feelings to it, you'd be like, nah, that's crazy,
Speaker 1: fam normal, Like look like that's a movie you'd watch because,
Speaker 1: like the ship is, it's a crazy story. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that that whole wave of like people being
Speaker 1: known more for the bullshit they pop on their cloud
Speaker 1: than their music. I think COVID low key kind of
Speaker 1: helped too, because people aren't standing on couches and clubs
Speaker 1: right now. They're like that's the fact they're consuming music
Speaker 1: in their headphones, got their cars. Yeah, you gotta wrap
Speaker 1: And that's I think it's it's helping bring a lot
Speaker 1: of the dope ship to to the like yeah, because
Speaker 1: if you look the week that they need a butcher
Speaker 1: black Dot, Freddy Gibbs hist gives tons of dope shit
Speaker 1: is throw got thirty eight specially. Yeah, thirty eight Spash
Speaker 1: is crazy and he's been nice. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, he's crazy. I need to get him up here.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Him and Benny's project was crazy a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. But yeah, I think, like you know,
Speaker 1: with you, I think it's like it's it's like you said,
Speaker 1: like it was a gift in the curse that you
Speaker 1: you know, went away. And so how different was the
Speaker 1: like the dynamic of the crew from when you went
Speaker 1: into when you got out. When I went in, it
Speaker 1: was already it was still like fractured. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was like everybody doing their own thing. I mean
Speaker 1: it was like that before, but we moved as a unit.
Speaker 1: I think fame and money it just made like our
Speaker 1: circle crowded because now once we all popped, now we
Speaker 1: all got an entourages and now it's not just us,
Speaker 1: it's all of us. It's like this enterage, that enterrage,
Speaker 1: that entourage. So I don't know, I just think maybe
Speaker 1: a complicated things, but it's all love. It's not like
Speaker 1: I think if Kim was to pick up the phone
Speaker 1: and call anybody, he could make a dips ever union
Speaker 1: happen anytime. No, for sure, Yeah, no, I think he's
Speaker 1: got that. Yo. We were just talking about how back
Speaker 1: in the day dipset it was like a thing like
Speaker 1: a signature to rhyme the same words, to rhyme the
Speaker 1: same words. Yeah, I think, in my heart, I think
Speaker 1: Jewel started that. No, for sure, that's a Jewel statement. All.
Speaker 1: I just was listening to some throwback freeze that he
Speaker 1: had and that was the first because I studied lyrics
Speaker 1: for real, and that's the first time I seen that
Speaker 1: scheme where he's. Cam wasn't doing that on like SDE
Speaker 1: and even come Home. Cam started doing that after Jewel's,
Speaker 1: but it didn't really matter because Joel's is his all this,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, but yeah, Jewell's I
Speaker 1: think Jewel started that when he said, you think a
Speaker 1: good jobs making twenty five an hour got cats selling
Speaker 1: twenty five twenties by the hour, That's what he's saying.
Speaker 1: And I'm the one paying. I'm twenty five an hour. Yeah, nah,
Speaker 1: twenty five for what told you? Like, Yo, they go
Speaker 1: ride the same shit, but it's it's it means something
Speaker 1: different every time. Every time. It's like it makes it
Speaker 1: that much harder. Yeah, facts, facts it's almost harder to
Speaker 1: do that than rhymen it with a new word. That's easy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I was just telling. I had my
Speaker 1: video shoot for this song nothing Means Nothing off my
Speaker 1: album off my EP coming out October thirtieth, Friday, Yeah Friday,
Speaker 1: feature in thirty eight, So that's just coming out Monday,
Speaker 1: So this will be out already, dope. So the EP's out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: EP is out. Go get that And if you watching this,
Speaker 1: then you already know the EP. Crazy and if you don't,
Speaker 1: then go listen to that. But anyway, I was just
Speaker 1: shooting a video in the heights with my god thirty
Speaker 1: eight specially. I was telling them because on the verse
Speaker 1: that he spit, he rhymed for like thirty two bars,
Speaker 1: but the same rhyme, like the same how you explain it,
Speaker 1: like the same rhyme and pattern, Like he never switched
Speaker 1: the rhyme scheme, huh know, the scheme like the yeah,
Speaker 1: like he's never yeah like that, he just rhymed with
Speaker 1: not the same words, but the same scheme. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: same scheme, like it's never switched out to rhyme with
Speaker 1: anything else. And it was fired straight through. I'm like
Speaker 1: that's fire. That's impressive to keep that going because it's
Speaker 1: so easy to just say two lines and then switch
Speaker 1: it again and then and then a lot of these
Speaker 1: rappers they don't rhyme multiple syllables. So to me, this
Speaker 1: don't be sounding impressive, but I know to the people
Speaker 1: it's like, nah, that was real shitty kick though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think everybody has their own thing. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: there's artists who say things in an extremely simple way,
Speaker 1: but the way they say it is the character, you know,
Speaker 1: the way they say it. You know, I think that
Speaker 1: there's guys who rap really fucking fast. They don't say anything,
Speaker 1: but they all flow. That's just the flow. And there
Speaker 1: are there are people who could do both. There's people
Speaker 1: who rap like that that are fucking fired, like m
Speaker 1: yeah am Tech nine. Like there's some dudes who could
Speaker 1: really get down. But like, I think that just everybody
Speaker 1: has their own thing, like you know, and then there's
Speaker 1: guys like Royce who are like fucking old Knights Jed Eyes,
Speaker 1: like Race to Fight nine can do is elite. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Do you like get like intimidating when you know you're like,
Speaker 1: did you first of all, do you know Race is
Speaker 1: getting on the record like or is it something you
Speaker 1: send to him. I'm gonna be real with you, bro,
Speaker 1: I ain't intimidated by nobody's work in a session with
Speaker 1: Low Wayne. Low Wayne my gotto. But Race is a
Speaker 1: much better rapper than Lil Wayne. For the record, it's ablatable.
Speaker 1: Lil Wayne is bigger, It's debatable. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: Race is a fucking murderer. Bro. I gotta be in
Speaker 1: a student with Royce to really because I witnessed this
Speaker 1: man wheezy like it's different off the top record diverse
Speaker 1: and say I don't like the middle, erase the middle
Speaker 1: and then go back in and just no, not go
Speaker 1: back in. He's still live and do it right there
Speaker 1: after he said a Race. Yeah, so you you've seen
Speaker 1: Wayne's creative process. What is that like? Is it no pen?
Speaker 1: Is it no pen? No pen? It's just you might
Speaker 1: listen to the beat a few times, chuckle, laugh a
Speaker 1: little bit, and then walk to the boot. Is he
Speaker 1: just punching as he goes? No? One shot deal really,
Speaker 1: And if you don't like a line or he don't
Speaker 1: like to go back and fix it, you just say, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do that over, do you? How do you do
Speaker 1: your thing because obviously you're the writer, writer one tape,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You don't write down anything? No, no, no, okay, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: because I trying to force myself to bust my brain
Speaker 1: to try to remember that. But yeah, I notice nowadays,
Speaker 1: like uh, a lot of rappers, especially now with the
Speaker 1: way like melody infused music has like kind of taken over,
Speaker 1: Like a lot of artists. They will just go into
Speaker 1: the boots and then they're like they'll lay down like
Speaker 1: the melody like and then to it and then they'll
Speaker 1: just punch in line by line. It's like that's like
Speaker 1: when somebody needs a ghost writer. You you you let
Speaker 1: me hear the beat and you tell me like you
Speaker 1: mumble to it. This is the type of flow flow
Speaker 1: because now you need the word no, I've seen it.
Speaker 1: It's it's actually a reference. It's it's like, yo, they'll
Speaker 1: lay that down and then they'll sit there and smoke
Speaker 1: and listen and then they'll go in and just punching. No.
Speaker 1: But it's but that's it. But it's it's it's still creative.
Speaker 1: It's still creative. It's just not I feel like it's
Speaker 1: harder to be able to say what you want to
Speaker 1: say and get your point across without thinking about it
Speaker 1: too much because Bobby ram and multiple words meaning multiple
Speaker 1: things at the same time, with metaphors, punch lines, and
Speaker 1: it's just it's just, you know, I'm a fan of that.
Speaker 1: That's know what I'm saying. When we're talking about Harlem,
Speaker 1: who do you have as your top five? Harlem? Mcs
Speaker 1: ever ever ever on Big l Mace Cam, not me yourself? Damn,
Speaker 1: I thought it was more than three from I think
Speaker 1: Davis is making his way into that kind of is
Speaker 1: a young legend, that's my But he's still catalog though. Man,
Speaker 1: he's still young. He's got a lot of catalog. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Davis is my god. David's Yeah, Dave's is definitely. He's
Speaker 1: definitely up there. But as far as my top five,
Speaker 1: I would say, Big ol Cam Mace, do you got
Speaker 1: who else? Out of respect? You put asab Rocky in
Speaker 1: there just because of the wave that he created. As
Speaker 1: far as maybe not lyrically, he's not literally there. Asad
Speaker 1: Rocky is nice though now he's under a different type
Speaker 1: of rapper. He's a little bit more creative when it
Speaker 1: comes to like putting together rhyms and songs and it's
Speaker 1: dope still, but it's not that type of rap, the
Speaker 1: big pun that type of rap that I was influenced by, Like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, but ain't really like he might not even
Speaker 1: know who. Of course, come on man, okay, Bodega Bams
Speaker 1: is fire. He I don't know that's got in that conversation,
Speaker 1: but he's that's my guy. He does. He's definitely deserves
Speaker 1: my ship, you know what, I deserve a shot because
Speaker 1: he's nice. He definitely from Harlem or not. We're not
Speaker 1: thinking of somebody bro. Yeah, g depth, but he just
Speaker 1: wasn't a wasn't even am child of the ghetto. Oh
Speaker 1: that ship was so fire. It was so good. I
Speaker 1: mean I think at that one album crazy yeah yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's like he did catch your body, they find himself,
Speaker 1: you know what's crazy. I was like in Poughkeepsie performance
Speaker 1: turned himself in. Yeah, before he turned himself in. I
Speaker 1: was in Poughkeepsie performing and and then I'm on stage
Speaker 1: rapping and I see somebody get on stage with like
Speaker 1: a big colorful bubble coat, and I'm like, I ain't
Speaker 1: coming nobody. I could see it from from the side
Speaker 1: of my eyes. So I look as g Debt and
Speaker 1: he's just like going crazy. But he looked a little
Speaker 1: like off. So I'm like, you know, I talked to
Speaker 1: him afterwards, we spoke. He was there. Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to remember a clear but shouts to him. He
Speaker 1: was just that was before he turned himself in, so
Speaker 1: I knew it was something a little bit, a little
Speaker 1: bit off for shots to him. He's still a hallm legend. Yeah, Mace,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's and also get enough respects at
Speaker 1: mc mace was crazy yea, get all the pross of
Speaker 1: my books now. I just feel like in general we
Speaker 1: talk about like overall, you're saying crazy run Man, Crazy Run.
Speaker 1: Double Double Up was a little disappointing, but you know,
Speaker 1: he was trying to get out that contract. That's how
Speaker 1: I looked at it. He was trying to get away
Speaker 1: from There was some there was like two records on
Speaker 1: Double Up. But I remember buying Double Up and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh damn, because he was trying to match
Speaker 1: it up with that Hall the World album. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, the Harlem World album. They came out like
Speaker 1: that's the triple plot. They came out super That's when
Speaker 1: he was trying. He tried to he dropped double up
Speaker 1: to get out his contract with Puff. That's what he's
Speaker 1: trying to do. And he was like pretty much he
Speaker 1: said it like he was kind of forced to put
Speaker 1: that guy put together that album whatever. When you were
Speaker 1: a kid, was like when him and Cam and Big
Speaker 1: L was that like movement known in Harlem, like it
Speaker 1: was Children of the Corn, right, Yeah, but that was
Speaker 1: like I was too young for that. Yeah. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean once I got older, I doubled back and listened,
Speaker 1: But I was too young for that. People don't even
Speaker 1: realize that Mace had like an entire you know, Murder
Speaker 1: Mace was a real thing. Yo. It was so crazy
Speaker 1: when Mace came back as like with the Jesus shit
Speaker 1: and then he went back to the gangster shit with
Speaker 1: G Unit for like one mixtape. I was so confused.
Speaker 1: I was like what, But honestly, I'm at the same time,
Speaker 1: I might have been confused, but I was hyped though.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, Murder back on Murder Time, Okay, Yeah
Speaker 1: that didn't work out though, And then he went back
Speaker 1: to the the Welcome Back album with the Brewers hat
Speaker 1: on and then yeah, I actually got to meet Mace.
Speaker 1: Very nice guys. You have you have you ever worked
Speaker 1: with Mace? Nah? No, yeah, you got to bring Murder
Speaker 1: Mace back for a verse. Man love to do it
Speaker 1: soon with Mace. Mace is a legend, of course, manig
Speaker 1: one of the biggest to do it from home. Oh
Speaker 1: for sure, I would argue Peak if we're measuring Peak
Speaker 1: the biggest. Yeah, I mean he's the only artist I
Speaker 1: know that. When I'm talking at that, I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about total run or influence on the culture, but I'm
Speaker 1: talking about like commercial success Peak wise for like a year,
Speaker 1: Cam and Mace. It's it's one of these two commercial
Speaker 1: Mace is fucking who you think had was bigger? Oh
Speaker 1: Mace you think so? Oh yeah, why you think that?
Speaker 1: Oh that's like that because he has songs with Mariah
Speaker 1: Because Cam, No, I think it's I think it's like
Speaker 1: hard like bro that that like twelve month fucking run.
Speaker 1: Mace was like the guy. Well he brung Cam in
Speaker 1: for sure. No, you're right, Yeah, Confessions of Fire, I remember, like,
Speaker 1: fucking I fuck with that originally because Mace was on it.
Speaker 1: What was the song on that album where he was
Speaker 1: talking about his aunt or his mom or some crazy ship.
Speaker 1: It was some wild ship. The song was actually called
Speaker 1: Confessions of Fire Bucket. He ain't say that though, he
Speaker 1: ain't say them. Not the mom of the arm throw
Speaker 1: you're talking about. You're talking about when I write that
Speaker 1: poodle and try to turn the poodle into theles on
Speaker 1: confession the song Confessions of Fire. He said, that's when
Speaker 1: he's confession. Hey, look up the lyrics and that's to
Speaker 1: the song. That's what I'm telling you. But he ain't
Speaker 1: saying he said on there about oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he might have said. He said no, he said, see
Speaker 1: what that dust does. He said he was saying a
Speaker 1: bunch of off the crazy ship, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this guy is crazy. I don't know if it was no.
Speaker 1: I don't think he said the mom but it was.
Speaker 1: It was some ship that was like off the wall
Speaker 1: like that though, where I was like, oh this guy,
Speaker 1: camera is different, I asked him. I said yo, I
Speaker 1: say yo, flee while you switch the style. So now
Speaker 1: you know, trying to take my ship man see eminem
Speaker 1: Rain with the whole ship. Let him have it. But
Speaker 1: he was doing it before that. He was doing that
Speaker 1: dark ship on the on Confessions of like for high kids.
Speaker 1: You want you like violence, bro, because I remember thinking
Speaker 1: like there was the Horse and Carriage record, and then
Speaker 1: I bought the album and I was like, oh no,
Speaker 1: this is something. There's some other This ship is dark.
Speaker 1: He's yeah, yeah, look him up. Eric. You know what
Speaker 1: what was dope to? Uh uh? The joon with him
Speaker 1: and o dB. That was classic. Oh yeah, what do
Speaker 1: you what do you think is Camp's best album? His
Speaker 1: best overall album. I'm gonna go purple. I mean I'm
Speaker 1: a Purple Hayes guy, though Purple Hays. Yeah, fucking that
Speaker 1: Killer Can be that he make his beat. It's like
Speaker 1: the craziest beat. I don't know if that was a
Speaker 1: sample whatever it was, whoever did the killer come? I
Speaker 1: was like, oh no, that was that was our pristive
Speaker 1: shout out to my guy Prestige. It did sample, sounded
Speaker 1: like Killer Can, but he came in and sung it
Speaker 1: over and they made it as a sample like try
Speaker 1: to alter it. So fuck my fuck mom and father shove.
Speaker 1: He said, I fucked my own and I fucked my
Speaker 1: mom to die. But when my girl got side of minds,
Speaker 1: I was trauma died. Shove the dick down the throat Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I said, man, fucking age test. Oh yeah, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: don't you cut that Up't gonna do the deal with
Speaker 1: you now, fucking up Cam. I was trying to get
Speaker 1: he was in l a earlier this week, and my boy,
Speaker 1: I was trying to get him to come through. That's
Speaker 1: like a bucket list interview for me. Killer of course,
Speaker 1: the Killer shout to the whole set, I have your phone, sir,
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Speaker 1: So so the CBD uh side of the game, you
Speaker 1: guys got on locked pretty much. Listen, you're not on
Speaker 1: the mic, buddy. So I tried to get him to
Speaker 1: brief me on the way, but I couldn't remember everything.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, CBD is a worldwide markets exactly.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not restricted like a marijuana type of thing.
Speaker 1: So you can ship worldwide and you know it's healthy.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know that's fair. Are you a healthy guy?
Speaker 1: Of course? Tell you I dropped twenty pounds. But since
Speaker 1: the last time I came in, how did you? What
Speaker 1: did you do to lose the weight? I do Keto
Speaker 1: and Bro, I got on Keto and lost weight and
Speaker 1: then I got off it and now I'm fat again.
Speaker 1: Well I'll be off and on and I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know it works, it works, yo, Like you go
Speaker 1: months strictly on Keto. Bro. What I did was I stopped.
Speaker 1: I did the I start doing the kiddo, but I
Speaker 1: cancel my gym umber shit, and I ordered the not
Speaker 1: to track treadmill, put it in my credit ball, and
Speaker 1: I just walk up yeah. Yeah, And I just walk
Speaker 1: walk up hill for ten to fifteen minutes before every
Speaker 1: meal and then workout at night. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Do you do do everything with the studio in the crib?
Speaker 1: I canceled, Yeah, I did that. I did that right
Speaker 1: before COVID, Right before COVID hit. People are saying that, uh,
Speaker 1: there's like a big exodus out of New York right now,
Speaker 1: like people are moving and ship. Have you noticed like
Speaker 1: people leaving. Nah. I heard like Manhattan's got like forty
Speaker 1: thousand open apartments right now, just a live bro really
Speaker 1: not gonna live Hell no, bro, Well ship for everyone's
Speaker 1: rent price purposes, you can of you know that'd be nice,
Speaker 1: right yeah, hell yeah, i'd be. I'd be like thinking like, yo, no,
Speaker 1: everybody's not paying five thousand a month, especially for these apartments.
Speaker 1: Like you enter these apartments because these apartment has been
Speaker 1: there for years. Even the hotels are fucked up, You'll
Speaker 1: be like, I just spent six hundred hours in the hotel.
Speaker 1: Is the size of my closet? Yeah? No, it's nothing
Speaker 1: like in New York are so small there's nowhere to
Speaker 1: put your ship. Like wait what there's nothing like l
Speaker 1: a hotel's you like, you'll get it on Expeedia and
Speaker 1: then you'll get in and you'll be like, wait, element
Speaker 1: you see that you got you have some old pictures up? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: that shit crazy? Nah? Yeah, because I know with with
Speaker 1: with the COVID ship, like I heard that just a
Speaker 1: lot of people are a lot of people are leaving
Speaker 1: California because it's so expensive. L A be clubs LA.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, no, I mean, it's great. I
Speaker 1: could never live in New York. I love visiting New York,
Speaker 1: but I'm a West Coast guy and just the why
Speaker 1: you feel that, I just don't like like everybody's just so,
Speaker 1: everybody's obnoxious everything. It's just you go outside and it's stress.
Speaker 1: My fucker is walking down the streets. Yeah, they got
Speaker 1: their fucking game face on. It's like out here, I
Speaker 1: could go outside and not see nobody. No I hear that.
Speaker 1: You'll you'll walk past and they'll say what's up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But even like, it's impossible to avoid strangers in New
Speaker 1: York if you're gonna have a life, to go to work,
Speaker 1: to go whatever you have to out here, I can
Speaker 1: drive from point A to point B and have zero
Speaker 1: interactions with people. I don't know. That's how Jersey is.
Speaker 1: New York is so like you gotta get on the
Speaker 1: train or even you gotta walk to get to Like
Speaker 1: it's just a lot, bro And in the parking situation,
Speaker 1: you gotta pay for a parking space every month. All
Speaker 1: kinds of crazy. Yeah, the only thing out here is
Speaker 1: that tras. But when I moved here, the radio stations
Speaker 1: in Burbank and Burbank's pretty expensive. But I purposely was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat ship and pay more money so I
Speaker 1: never have to get on the freeway. So I got
Speaker 1: my studios right here in Burbank North Hollywood area, the
Speaker 1: radio stations in burt Oh, this is Burbank. This is
Speaker 1: the Burbank North Hollywood like border. So if you go
Speaker 1: like half a mile that way, you're in Burbank radio station,
Speaker 1: like five minutes from here. So I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, like, I'm gonna just pay more for my rents.
Speaker 1: I don't have to deal with what you said, because
Speaker 1: that's where everybody, like the traffic get you fucking stressed
Speaker 1: out thinking about that ship out here. Yeah, Bro, the
Speaker 1: GPS says seven minutes. It took me seventeen minutes. Bro,
Speaker 1: it was traffic for no reason. Then I had to
Speaker 1: tell when it cleared up, I told the drive, I'll say, oh, bro, drive,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? You know, it's definitely I would
Speaker 1: probably rather still deal with the traffic than have to
Speaker 1: like deal with the people, deal with the trains. Oh,
Speaker 1: to deal with the trains. Yeah, there's no trains. I
Speaker 1: mean there is, bit I don't think people really don't
Speaker 1: take them like that. Oh, it's not like that. It's
Speaker 1: like a Jersey train. Jersey's not here in New Jerseys. Y.
Speaker 1: One time I fell asleep in New York. I was
Speaker 1: on the train and I fell asleep. I woke up
Speaker 1: and you woke up. I woke up in Spanish Harlem.
Speaker 1: Oh that wasn't that fall, but no. I took it
Speaker 1: from like downtown and I woke up in Spanish Harlem.
Speaker 1: It was like three in the morning, Bro, I get, oh,
Speaker 1: come up, and I'm like, but you still good? And
Speaker 1: three in the morning and Spanish hall them. You lucky.
Speaker 1: You ain't wake up in Hunt's Point And I was like, okay, damn,
Speaker 1: this is so. This is Spanish harlot. So I'm like
Speaker 1: trying to walk around and find my entrance into the
Speaker 1: subway to get to the other way, and I'm like
Speaker 1: at the time, I'm like real tight with bodega bam.
Speaker 1: So I remember hitting them and I'd be like, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm right here in my camera here because I just
Speaker 1: woke up and got off the train. No, Spanish Halem
Speaker 1: is dope and it's cool. I mean, it's laid back, yo.
Speaker 1: Harlem is a vibe. Bro. I just think it's like
Speaker 1: like I felt like if I remember every like you know,
Speaker 1: there's a few times I talked about moving to New
Speaker 1: York and I was like, Yo, if I'm gonna move
Speaker 1: to New York, I'm not either living in Jersey or Harlem,
Speaker 1: because Harlem is like still technically it's it's still technically
Speaker 1: it's like the first burrow outside of like like if
Speaker 1: you're going towards like you're leaving Manhattan. It's part of man.
Speaker 1: It's part of man Man. But yeah, we got Manhattan, Harlem,
Speaker 1: Washington Heights that's old Manhattan and Washington Heights is oh
Speaker 1: my bad ellie. Yes, Manhattan, Halem, Washington Heights like big,
Speaker 1: big Spanish area, right yeah, Dominican shout my dominicanos up there.
Speaker 1: And then from there it's the Bronx. Then it's the Bronx.
Speaker 1: Maybe a few blocks away. You could just cross a
Speaker 1: little bridge. You in the Bronx, shout out to the Bronx. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think? Why do you think for people
Speaker 1: who don't who are from New York, Man, every single
Speaker 1: borough has its own flavor. It's it's very different. Like
Speaker 1: you could go to Brooklyn and it's like you feel
Speaker 1: like you're in a whole nother place. Even parts of Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Now you're like fucking hipster motherfuckers everywhere, and then you
Speaker 1: you know, five minutes away, it's a dangerous place. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is that most of New York is like most of
Speaker 1: New York becoming gentrified? Or is it still like No,
Speaker 1: it's just some because Brooklyn is fucking crazy, yeah, Central,
Speaker 1: I mean the hipster Willisburg. Okay, I don't really know
Speaker 1: Brooklyn like that. I ain't gonna hold you. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: try to stay away from Brooklyn. Brooklyn, serious Brooklyn, serious
Speaker 1: white girls with fucking armpit hair and ship you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, New York is. Yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: it was like versus like people that were originally there. Okay,
Speaker 1: I knew. I knew Brooklyn was different. When my guys
Speaker 1: the Wave Gag they didy go by the wool, now
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But they had me in
Speaker 1: Brownsville projects. Okay, I just remember Brownsville by the way,
Speaker 1: shout out to mop just reading about Brownsville as a
Speaker 1: kid in the Double E solth Yeah, they had me
Speaker 1: in Brownsville projects. And when I got there, like when
Speaker 1: I went to the when I really seen the projects firsthand.
Speaker 1: That's when I seen like, this is totally different from Harlem.
Speaker 1: This is nowhere in Hallam. A't got nothing on this.
Speaker 1: This is different. This is like walking past the police
Speaker 1: with a bottle of rose and they don't say ship
Speaker 1: like this is different, Like they all they care about
Speaker 1: his shootouts and they might not even they might not
Speaker 1: even walk up. They're gonna call for backup. It's just
Speaker 1: dark over there. It's different. Yeah, It's like it's different, bro. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I just vividly remember reading Billy Dan's in
Speaker 1: a Little Fame talking about how they used to shoot
Speaker 1: people off like they used to They used to just
Speaker 1: shoot people off the top of their built like like
Speaker 1: they were snipers or met them too. Crazyest neighborhood all
Speaker 1: in New York and all in New York that you've
Speaker 1: been to, many that I've been to. Damn, they gonna
Speaker 1: be mad at me. I can't just say one yeah
Speaker 1: nah they you know, No, Brownsville is like the crit
Speaker 1: to me in New York. Nah, in New York because
Speaker 1: see if I say no, now it's like words. So
Speaker 1: we ain't gangster like that. Nah. But I think Brownsville
Speaker 1: honestly Brownsville is different. It was. It would be some
Speaker 1: people from East New York that'll tell you Brownsville for real. Brownsville. Yeah,
Speaker 1: man shout out to MP. Yes, sir, First Family Z owned.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yes, sir. Well look your
Speaker 1: ep is out. Yeah, go get that. I really wrapped
Speaker 1: two out now on a platforms. Yeah. Album on the way,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna drop another EPC. That's the problem I've
Speaker 1: been having is like I dropped the upstage. It got
Speaker 1: a nice response. I fell back for two You guys,
Speaker 1: you can't fall back no more. Bro, Yeah, no, so
Speaker 1: I'm not today. Listen, let me tell you if I
Speaker 1: can give you any advice in today's world, bro, just
Speaker 1: keep dropping NonStop. And you're independent, right facts, So just dude,
Speaker 1: run up your independent catalog, get that nice fucking monthly
Speaker 1: residual income coming in, Yeah, and run it, bro, Like
Speaker 1: take a page out of what like Riselda is doing
Speaker 1: as far as like the quantity of music they're dropping
Speaker 1: and own all of it. You know what would would
Speaker 1: spark me to do that? Thirty I had a cold
Speaker 1: conversation with thirty eighth stage specially another example, just like yo,
Speaker 1: he looked at me, like, Yo, why you holding onto
Speaker 1: the music for show? Now? This is not this is
Speaker 1: not the same era, right, It's not the era to
Speaker 1: hold on the music. But see, I was always don't
Speaker 1: overthink your rollout, don't overthink any of that ship I was.
Speaker 1: I was always accustomed to one album a year, that's
Speaker 1: how you do it. Drop five albums a year. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna start doing. Dropping next month again November thirty.
Speaker 1: Perfect facts, just keep going dog and like then you
Speaker 1: know you'll be like, yo, damn these monthly fucking what's
Speaker 1: your distro? Are you doing? Like tone Core distroc right now,
Speaker 1: I'm putting this project out through video shouts the video.
Speaker 1: But I got tom Core, I messed with different like
Speaker 1: I got my brother all that distro kid. You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll work pretty much to say, yeah, I own my mask.
Speaker 1: I just I just got my master's back from my
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers for one of my albums. Now I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get my first album that was number two in
Speaker 1: the country. Hopefully they give it back to me Cotch Records,
Speaker 1: One Man and y'all owe me some money too. But
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make a big deal let's work things out.
Speaker 1: You know. E one is uh, what's the guy name?
Speaker 1: Elliet Ellie? What's Alan Grumblett? Shout out to Steve Lobel.
Speaker 1: We'll try to get to Steve. Steve's real, real close
Speaker 1: friends with him. I can try to make that happen
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, let's do that. Boom Well, listen, man,
Speaker 1: we got a freestyle dropping tomorrow. So this is Monday,
Speaker 1: Today's Monday. Tomorrow they'll be It's going down jail rder freestyle, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: boom perfect, all right, cool play the beat in there,
Speaker 1: hang out ball. They switch out to set