1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: What's up his way up with Angela he and what 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: an honor Hi you to have Lendcaya Kabtta here. I've 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: seen you doing press Good Morning America. I know you 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: did the Breakfast Club and we already said you are 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: going to. 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: Be outside, Yes, outside. 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: But of course you are playing starring in Wicked on Broadway, 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: the first black alphabet full time correct, So congratulations on that. 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: I was watching your journey too, of your first day, 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: like you documented going and having your debut performance and 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: the audience and your everybody was like crying because that 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: is an emotional play. 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: Yes, when you're watching it, Yeah, it is ups and 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: downs like crazy. 15 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: Well, congratulations on that because I know, like even going 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: to Broadway. I love going to Broadway plays, but sometimes 17 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I don't see enough of us fair 18 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: there in the audience, and especially not enough of us 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: represented on this stage. I feel like that's all correlated. 20 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: So what did that mean to you when you first 21 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: heard the news? Because I know it was a latter 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: back and forth auditioning, not knowing what was going to happen. 23 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: I just felt like it was an opportunity to tell 24 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: my story and the story of my community in like 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: a very passionate and honest way, especially in a character 26 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: that has a lot of agency in her own life 27 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: even though the world is kind of against her in 28 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: the story, Like, just like her arc is so inspiring 29 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: and so personal to me, and that she just stays 30 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: so true to herself through all this hardship. So like 31 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: it was an opportunity to tell a story through the 32 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: eyes of a character who is strong and like sure 33 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: of herself, which is so inspiring to me. 34 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: And you've been, you know, doing this. It's interesting to 35 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: me your whole background that here, Yeah, because this is 36 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: not something that initially you intended to even happen, right, 37 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: for you to even be shycles to be acting, that 38 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: was never the goal. Like you know how some people 39 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: growing up they're like, I want to be on stage. 40 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: Interestingly, like as a kid, I did dream. I had 41 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: a specific dream of being on Broadway. I also just 42 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: had other things that I that I had passions for 43 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: and that I love, Like I played sports, I was 44 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: super involved in academics and and volunteering, and obviously theater 45 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: and singing as well. And it wasn't until like towards 46 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: the end of college that I was like, no, I 47 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: think I'm going to like pivot and like really pursue 48 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: this because I was just so curious. I've been so 49 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: driven by like what are the things that I'm capable 50 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: of that I don't even know that I'm capable of yet. 51 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 2: That's a great way to think, you know, graduating from 52 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: college is where are we going? 53 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: Right? 54 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: What are we doing? 55 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: What did you when you had dreams of being on 56 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: Broadway when you were younger? Was there specific Ooh, that's 57 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: a great question. 58 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: You know. I always say I dreamt in feelings, not 59 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: specific destinations, and I feel like that's left my aperture 60 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: very open to so many possibilities. And I just I 61 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: dreamt of feeling how I feel right now, like I'm 62 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: doing something that matters to me, matters to my community, 63 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: it matters to the entertainment industry and the world as 64 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: a whole, especially because the movie it's just like it's 65 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: this large platform. So I feel like that is what 66 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: drove me to. 67 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: Hear your parents also came here from Ethiopia, and so 68 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: watching everything that's going on right now, I know that 69 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: means a lot to you too, just with your background, 70 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: your family background, but also your education background and what 71 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: it is that you represent and what Alphabet represents. It 72 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: couldn't be a better marriage. It feels like arguing for 73 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: you to like combine your background but also your passions. 74 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like I'm playing a very hot headed 75 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: version of myself. She is hype and she's very easily 76 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: triggered and explosive. So I don't necessarily like present like that, 77 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: but like the core of who she is, what she 78 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: stands for, how empathetic she is to everyone's all beings, 79 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: human or not, is very true to who I am 80 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: and who my family raised me to be. 81 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: If somebody, for some reason it's under a rock and 82 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: haven't seen Wicked the play or the movie, how would 83 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: you describe Alphabet's character for people who are watching Because 84 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of underlying meanings. You could be watching 85 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: it just for entertainment, but it's the type of thing 86 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: where later on you can reflect and say, actually has 87 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: a lot of different meanings. Because the music is beautiful 88 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: on there, you know the plot and the storyline. You 89 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: can go in there the spectacle yeah, and not have 90 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: to think that hard. But then when you do, you're like, 91 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: this represents so much more. What would you say if 92 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: somebody asked you what alphabet represents. 93 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: I think alphabet represents challenging preconceived ideas of the world 94 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: around you. She believes in the Wizard. The whole, the 95 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: whole beginning of the story is her pursuing this like 96 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: childhood dream of meeting him and getting to work with him, 97 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: and then she finds out that he's not who he 98 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: says he is. So that like disillusionment that she experiences, 99 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: I feel like is very representative of what is happening 100 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: in the world right now unfortunately. So I believe Alphaba 101 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: represents not taking things face for face value, including herself. 102 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: Everything she experiences is also like a microcosm of what 103 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: she has to do within her life in her own identity. 104 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: So like this concept of like good and evil, like 105 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: Glinda the good and Alphaba the wicked witch. So like 106 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: this one's bad and this one's good. Great, But why Yeah, 107 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: it's just the quote. The whole story is about questioning 108 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 2: why have we decided just because this thing, this entity 109 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: is different, that it's a threat, And I feel like 110 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: the whole but at the end they become they become one. 111 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: Glinda and Alphaba become close, and Alphaba literally tells Glinda, 112 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 2: I need you not to Uh what did she say? 113 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: What does she say? Me? I think you should I 114 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: think I shouldn't know she says, don't don't try to 115 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: like save face for me, don't try to clear my name. 116 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: And so everyone sees Glinda at the beginning, just like 117 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: making this beautiful public appearance. Everything's fine, you know, like 118 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 2: I don't care about the wicked witch. Meanwhile, in the background, 119 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: what you don't see is that Alpha but told her to. 120 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: So like that's just a small example of just not 121 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: taking things for what they are because you just don't 122 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: know what's happening behind closed doors. 123 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: Even alphabet being green and how that happened. Yeah, I 124 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: also feel like that's a theme too when you think 125 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: about why she even is. You know, the decisions or 126 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: things that could happen that get passed down. 127 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: That rise generational trauma, or just like how we take 128 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: care of ourselves now is how the next generation will live. 129 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: That's the world that they will live, And how we 130 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: take care of the earth right now is how our 131 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: next generation will live. So yeah, that's a really really 132 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: good point. How she became green in the first place 133 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: is also something. 134 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: Chason, but her mom, come on, yeah, I want to 135 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: ask you with that about your parents and how they 136 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: feel about because I know they are so proud of you. Yes, 137 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: but even the work ethic that you have, because there's, 138 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: like you said, a lot of different directions you could 139 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: have gone in life. Yes, And so talk to me 140 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: about what that support system was like, because sometimes parents 141 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: can see something in their kids and really encourage it 142 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: or also feel scared for you. That made sure, Oh 143 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: we got to make sure she's got this background just 144 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: in case as a plan B. That's how parents can think. 145 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: I mean, they were so supportive, especially being immigrant African parents, 146 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: and like still giving me the space to pursue these 147 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: creative treasas most of the I don't know adults. The 148 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 2: people that are older than me and my family are in 149 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: tech and academia and politics. So like for me to 150 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: just be like, hey, I'm gonna go saying now, they're like, 151 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: they don't they don't even they couldn't even understand the industry, 152 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: but they knew me. They trusted me, so like I 153 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: think that superseded any fears or anxieties they had, even 154 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: though they still had concerns, because I would still get 155 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: questions a couple of years into my career, Like so 156 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: when you go to law school, right, I'm like, you know, 157 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: that's a boat of question because that is how I 158 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: presented and now I'm changing it all up. So I 159 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: do appreciate you going along this ride. But they really did. 160 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: They trusted me, and like they trusted my vision and 161 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: my work ethic and I think that's and we also 162 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: had a lot of very open communication about these things, 163 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: so that that I feel like helped them maintain trust 164 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: in the. 165 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: Process because you didn't just pap up obviously on Wicked, 166 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: you had a background, yes, and it was a grind. 167 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: To get there one hundred percent. 168 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: So because I know you've done productions of Hamilton, yeah, 169 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: which is amazing. I mean Hamilton was groundbreaking as well. Yes, 170 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: you know in itself. Of course we know Beyonce. For 171 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, you did those rehearsals with Beyonce, 172 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: and so during that time, did it feel like, how 173 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: patient were you? Because I know, sometimes when you know, 174 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: you have like this fire that you want to show 175 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: the world. So how was that for you? And had 176 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: you audition for things on Broadway before this? 177 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? I did. I was I was always auditioning throughout 178 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: my career. Throughout when I was in Hamilton, before though 179 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: I was in rent and then I before that, I 180 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: worked in Disneyland and Tokyo. So the whole time I 181 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: was always auditioning for stuff. 182 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: But Disneyland and Tokyo is wi you guy to tell 183 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: me about that? 184 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: Oh it's amazing. I mean Tokyo is literally so amazing. 185 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: I would like go live there right now. Everything about it, 186 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: Like the culture is so hospitable, just the transportation, Like 187 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: the city is just like clean as hell and you 188 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: can get around so easily, and it's so beautiful. The 189 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: food is amazing. So like, yeah, throughout all those experiences, 190 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 2: I was also auditioning for big Broadway stuff, anything I 191 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: can get my hands on. I was like, let's go 192 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: so yes to life, right, let's just go for But 193 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: I feel like God gave me a lot of things 194 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: and patience is not one of them. But I feel 195 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: like maybe that has helped me because. 196 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: I just like have always had this fire urgency. 197 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like in therapy, I definitely have to talk about, 198 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: you know, being patient because things can't happen on my 199 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: all my time, all the time, and like that's what's 200 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: kept me grounded is like trusting that the universe has 201 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: always had like a plan for me. Like if there's 202 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: this fire in me there, it has to be there 203 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: for a reason. I don't feel this way for no reason. 204 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: And that's what's kind of like kept me aligned with 205 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: my goals even when things maybe weren't going the way 206 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: I why I wanted them. I was like, no, but 207 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: the universe, whatever you might believe in, God has a 208 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: plan for where I'm supposed to be, and I just 209 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 2: have to like literally just keep going forward. 210 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: Because sometimes things happen too fast. Yeah, and if you're 211 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: not ready for oh Lord, that could be like man, 212 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: I shouldn't you know? Yes, But so talk to me 213 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: about that first day, right because we saw some footage 214 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: we saw you walking in, seeing yourself on the post. Yeah, 215 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: and you know that current cause is going on stage. 216 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: So after that, I mean, is it that you get 217 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: on this stage and then your nerves are gone or 218 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: like tell me how I just money here? Yo, I'm 219 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: nervous most of us will never experience. But something like 220 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: that is. 221 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: I've become painfully aware of everyone looking at me at 222 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: very random places during the show, Like it's so I'm like, 223 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: oh my gone. But then I just like divert back 224 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: to like Elphabu's thoughts and the land of Oz. So 225 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: anytime I'd get nervous, I would just try to literally 226 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: focus on the world in front of me, like ground 227 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: myself on the stage, like feel my feet on the 228 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: ground and look at the actor I'm performing with sort 229 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: of thing. But I was super nervous. I had like 230 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: sixty friends and family there on my first show, like 231 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: it was not only a historical moment for our community, 232 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 2: but also my Broadway debut. I I'd never performed on 233 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: Broadway before. I've never even lived in New York before, 234 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: so it was a lot of first out once. So 235 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: like I took a little video before I went on 236 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 2: for the first time on my debut day because I 237 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: was like, I gotta remember this feeling. And like I 238 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: was like I was just literally talking to the camera, 239 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 2: not for anyone, just for me, just being like, oh 240 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 2: my God, like this is happening. And I wanted to 241 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: just cry and like scream because I was so happy 242 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: and so excited, but like I couldn't even let myself 243 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: feel the excitement because that would have taken me out 244 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 2: of the character's mind, the characters to be like, yeah, absolutely, 245 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: but I still struggle with nerves all the time. And 246 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: that's that's part of the Like, that's why I always 247 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: preach like a strong relationship to self for any spirituality 248 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: because like it really helps me stay grounded in high 249 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 2: stress situations. 250 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: Even doing eight shows a week that is strenuous. And 251 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: I know you've said you've gotten the advice of not 252 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: to be too hard on yourself because there are there 253 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: times that like you have to improvise because we wouldn't know, right, 254 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: but that would be something that you do and I'm 255 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: sure on stage it can happen something, yeah, because it 256 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: has to at times somebody else or if somebody else 257 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: says something that they weren't supposed to. 258 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: Say, things about having all the time, and we said, 259 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: that's a lot. 260 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: Of trust between you guys who as actors being creative. 261 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: Talk to me about the audition, I mean, the rehearsals 262 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: process and how that was and even you building a 263 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: great relationship with Glinda Ali. 264 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: Is Ali Trim. 265 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, So talk to me about having that strong relationship 266 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: with Glinda and also being able to kind of get 267 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: in there with the rest of their cast. Members and bond, Like, 268 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: what are some of the things that you do besides 269 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: Jess rehearsals. 270 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we would try to spend quality time together. 271 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: I always can't because my role is very intense and 272 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: very taxing, and I just don't have a lot of time. 273 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: It's kind of isolating. However, like I knew in the 274 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: audition process that I wanted to get to know these 275 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: people as much as I could. I want to know 276 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: about their families and how they think and how they feel, 277 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: because like having that one on one vulnerable personal connection 278 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 2: like really makes me feel like we're doing like you know, 279 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: we're doing this together. So as much as we could, 280 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: we just we just chill. Like they come the other characters, 281 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: the Bach, the Glinda, the Nessa, they come into my 282 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: dressing room and we just hang out and chit chat 283 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 2: about whatever about nothing, and those little moments like really 284 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: bring that cohesion on stage that you're talking about, like 285 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: that real trust because it's it's hard. The show is hard, 286 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: it's long, it's intense. 287 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: It's the longest shows I know that inhabit. For us 288 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: in the audience, it doesn't feel long and exactly. 289 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: Exactly and I feel like we work on like the 290 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: pacing of the storytelling to keep it engaging. But that 291 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: also requires a lot of trust because I make mistakes. 292 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: We all make mistakes all the time in the show, 293 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: and we have to be able to look at each 294 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: other in the eye and be like, nah, I got you, 295 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 2: Like we're doing this right, you get it? Yeah? So that, 296 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: like you, I think the trust that you brought up 297 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: is like key to something like this. 298 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: So what do you do to wind down as yourself 299 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: in real life? As LNDCY? Like what is it that 300 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: you're you're doing when you're after eight shows in a 301 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: week and you're like, okay. 302 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 2: Nature, I live by the water. I like to sit 303 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: by the water. Okay to New York dirty water, but 304 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: it's water and it's calming to me because I'm from California. 305 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: I'm a beach girl, so like I need to feel 306 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: that it just brings me to earth, especially when I'm 307 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: in this literal black dark box at the theater like 308 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 2: all day or all week whatever, so I feel like 309 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 2: I need to get outside. And there's just a lot 310 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: of like chilling on my own, watching movies, watching TV, 311 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: connecting with friends and family too, even if it's just FaceTime. 312 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: Like that helps me feel like I'm winding down because 313 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: it just makes me feel like I'm more balanced. 314 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: What are you watching on TV? 315 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: I just finished Ginny and Georgia on Netflix. I'm obsessed. 316 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: It's so silly and I'm obsessed. 317 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: I gotta wist that. Yeah, it's so ridiculous because every 318 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: time I finished something, I'm like, Okay, now what's next. 319 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: Literally, I feel like my life is over when I 320 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: finish a TV show, I'm like, what's my purpose? 321 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: Centime? You're so upset? Like I got a wait, friend, 322 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: now this seasons Great Games coming back? 323 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: Oh my god? 324 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: Yes? Oh? 325 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: And also and just like that, the Sex and the City, 326 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: Like I love it. 327 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: Did you wess the original Sex in the City? Because then, okayessed, 328 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: how do you like living? Speaking of Sex in the City, 329 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: how are you liking living in New York? 330 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: I love it. I hope fool that I've wanted to 331 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: live here since I was very young, because I feel like, 332 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: if you don't want to live here, this is not 333 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: the place to try it out because it's crazy. But 334 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: I love it. I love the energy. I love how 335 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: like there's like food late night, like everything is going 336 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: all the time. 337 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, That's one thing when I travel and I go 338 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: out the places and I'm like, dang, I can't order food, 339 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: like there's nothing. 340 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: Old, shocking. I'm gonna starve and die. 341 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: But La, I felt like Steph is openly. 342 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes, but it still surprises me because a city 343 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: like this is like literally doesn't sleep, but La sometimes it. 344 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: So you went to the Tonys. Yeah, they said this 345 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: year was like one of the best time you ever. 346 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: So tell me how you felt that the Tony's. What 347 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: was that light? 348 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: I definitely I was tearing up. I was like, this 349 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: is my community and we're doing such beautiful things. There's 350 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: so many beautiful stories being told, specifically stories of black 351 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: and brown communities, and like so many shows are being 352 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: led by people of color right now, and it's so 353 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: inspiring to me. So I was just like, I was 354 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: kind of pinching myself. I was like, this is it's 355 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: such It's such a privilege to be among incredibly creative 356 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: and intelligence peers in that space. 357 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: I know you said that. Cynthia Riva also sent you flowers. 358 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's so sweet. 359 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: Right before you were doing your Days Day performance, so thoughtful, 360 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: so cute, and you're right about that because I think 361 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: Broadway has become a lot more diverse from what I've seen. 362 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: Because I've been I go to a lot of different things. 363 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: I'm always disappointed when something comes and goes fast. 364 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: Too, because I got attached. I'm like, oh, that's a 365 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: good story. There's beautiful performances. 366 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: But I also want to make sure that we're going 367 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I went to go 368 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: see like Ja Jazz hair brating, I want to go 369 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: see the What a Wonderful World? 370 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 371 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And those are so such amazing, amazing stories, and 372 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, we need people to like really, it's 373 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: hard to get it. Some things like promoted because not 374 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: a lot of things Wicked has had, like what is 375 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: it the fourth longest running show. 376 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: Something like that, I've heard of fourth I can't even tell. 377 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: You Broadway and that's amazing, you know what I'm saying. 378 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: The Lion King, I've seen that multiple time. 379 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: I can see it every week. 380 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: I would be down, Yeah, MJ. You know there's certain 381 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: things that just really like and you're you're in one 382 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: of those like foundational Broadway plays that if somebody comes 383 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: to New York. 384 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: They're going to go see Wicked, right. 385 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: And you gotta take the family, you gotta you know exactly, 386 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: even my man liked it. 387 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 2: I know that's right, because that's the thing about this 388 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: show is like people, people who are not even in 389 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 2: this world are so moved by the story. Which is 390 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: why it's so crazy for me to be in this moment, 391 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 2: because I'm like, as a kid, I idolize Wicked as 392 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 2: like something that defined Broadway mm hmmm, And now I'm 393 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 2: it came the thing that I'm idolizing, Like, it's so 394 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: crazy and it means so much of so many people 395 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: who have never even experienced theater like that. 396 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: So do you see a difference in you know, just 397 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: young people seeing somebody like you playing the character alphabet 398 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: like one of a renowned character. Do you see anything like, 399 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if they do any studies to see 400 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: like what has this increased the number of people that 401 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: are you know, young black and brown girls that want 402 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: to go. 403 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: To see theater. I definitely feel like from what I've 404 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 2: heard internally in the company that like sort of the 405 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: statistics of like the audience demographics have shifted a lot, 406 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: and I'm just generally seeing more black and brown faces 407 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: in the audience like when I can only see a 408 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: few roles, but even if I like maybe walk a 409 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 2: little bit near the lobby, like, it's just it's amazing 410 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 2: to see how the diversity in attendance is shifting, and 411 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 2: I mean racially, but also just like eight ages, right, 412 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: it's so impressive to me. 413 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think sometimes people feel like it's a little 414 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: out of reach for them. And then when you go 415 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: and you're like, Okay, this is not. 416 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: I can relate. I can see someone like me or something. 417 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: And I've heard also people talk about musicals and be like, 418 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: but this is like the music alone stands by yourself 419 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: completely agree. You know what's your favorite sound is saying. 420 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 2: No good deed. It's an act too. It's just a 421 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 2: badass moment. I feel so powerful, Like and it's one 422 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 2: of those songs where like she's just experiencing so many 423 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: emotions at once, like every line is another shift in 424 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: her internal experience. And it's just like this labyrinth that 425 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 2: I get to like sift through to get to this 426 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 2: place where I'm like, you know what, forget all of 427 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: what all these pressures that are being put on me. 428 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna you want me to be evil? You want 429 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: me to be the Wicked Witch. I'm gonna be the 430 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: wood Witch. It's like this beautiful resignation and it's very pointant, 431 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: it's very intense, but it's powerful. Man, I love it. 432 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: Could you imagine if they would have asked you to 433 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: pay Glinda? 434 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: Honestly, sometimes I'm like, what if I came back and 435 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: was Glinda. I'd be kind of crazy. That would be 436 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: I would enjoy it. It would be kind of silly. 437 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: It would be silly. I would enjoy it. 438 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: So what do you see as yourself? Like now, because 439 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: I know you've been visioned being on Broadway you wanted 440 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: to since you were young, So now what do you 441 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: envision like what's next? Because I know you're thinking about that. 442 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, I think I'm super excited to start 443 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: building characters from the ground up, new characters, whether they're 444 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: on screen, originating a Broadway show, or I'm super into animation. 445 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 2: I love Disney. I want to be a new Disney 446 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: Princess one day. Okay, we're hoping we hopefully put it 447 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 2: out right. So, yeah, I've been in long running shows Wicked, Hamilton, 448 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 2: and Rent, played characters that people know so well, So 449 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 2: I'm feeling uber creative now, Like I'm just like, now 450 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: that I've conquered this thing, I don't even know I 451 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 2: could do this, So like what else do I not 452 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: know that I can do? 453 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: Right now? 454 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: I gotta see. 455 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: Theater is definitely harder than television and film. 456 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: I would say they're different, they're different difficulties because I 457 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: have the eight show week to like rev up my energy, 458 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: and I have the entirety of a show to build 459 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: the arc of a character. But if I'm when I'm 460 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: doing like a single episode of a show, like that's 461 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: like a snapshot in a moment of a character's life, 462 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: and oftentimes the future of the series is not even 463 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: written yet, so it's like I don't even know where 464 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 2: my endpoint is. So I would say physically, it's probably 465 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 2: it's it's easier on screen because we're not doing eight 466 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: shows a week, but the intensity intensity of the camera 467 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: being right in hont of your face. 468 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and also no doovers like you, I mean not. 469 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 2: You do get duovers on screen. It's incredibly vulnerable. So 470 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 2: it's just like I would say, it's just different difficulties 471 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 2: in both. Who has been the. 472 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: Most like, Wow, I can't believe this person reached out 473 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: to me. 474 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 2: That's such a good question. I was pretty let me see, 475 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to forget anybody. I mean John Cheu, 476 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: the director of the Wicked movie, hit me up like 477 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 2: immediately when when the press release came out, and I 478 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: was like, that's amazing. I'm obsessed with everything he's done. 479 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 2: He's so brilliant and his like his mind works. I 480 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: was just like, I'm so John, if you can hear me, 481 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 2: I can't wait for us to do a project together. 482 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: He's just the homie like he's he's from California like me, 483 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: so like he's very down to earth and like just 484 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: like incredibly supportive for someone I've never actually met, like 485 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: just supportive from afar. 486 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: All Right, we love it. But I'll be watching you 487 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: and following everything that you have one on and congratulations 488 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: to you. Represent amazing. 489 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: Thank you. 490 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: You know for everybody that wants to go out there. 491 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: If you haven't seen Wicked, shame on you. But you know, 492 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: make sure you get a chance to go because I've 493 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: already been a couple of times and it's a listen, 494 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't even have time like that. When I tell you, 495 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: if anytime I have like a little spare time. Let's 496 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: go again. 497 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: You know it's fun, all right. 498 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining me. It was 499 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: a pleasure, such a pleasure. 500 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: Thank you 501 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: Well,