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Speaker 2: It is eight o'clock on the West Coast. It's ten
Speaker 2: o'clock in Dallas, and that means it's time for another
Speaker 2: edition of mix Shots. I got to clear my throat.
Speaker 2: I went all ready for this. We're at the corner
Speaker 2: of Ventura and Vineyard on a beautiful day for football
Speaker 2: here in Oxnard, California, a second day in pads and
Speaker 2: it was crystal clear blue the other day. And it's
Speaker 2: still a beautiful day, even though the marine layer is
Speaker 2: rolled in chili.
Speaker 3: Sixty degrees, is it? What do you think?
Speaker 2: It's what they feel like.
Speaker 5: Oh, it's got to be ninety by now.
Speaker 3: The feel like it's sixty one. It's pretty consistent out
Speaker 3: here to feel like the temperature.
Speaker 2: Although that breeze, especially in the evenings. Yes, that breeze
Speaker 2: kicks up off the Pacific Ocean and it can get
Speaker 2: pretty chilly here.
Speaker 3: What came in pretty pretty strong last night, it did.
Speaker 2: You could see it come over the horizon. Marine layer
Speaker 2: and I saw it firsthand last night.
Speaker 5: You've been rocking the shorts and the teas in the
Speaker 5: morning though, so you're you're the troopers here. Mickey and
Speaker 5: I are bundled up and we'll you know, one practice
Speaker 5: starts in the suns out. That's when.
Speaker 3: Benefit of staying here. He would have to bring clothing.
Speaker 2: No, I do have close to change into later.
Speaker 3: I was going to say we can run.
Speaker 2: Because when it gets cold before our ten o'clock live
Speaker 2: shot Dallas time, that's when I'm all bundled up. Mickey.
Speaker 2: Are you in the habit of getting your morning workouts
Speaker 2: in here?
Speaker 3: I am like you have in the past. Since we
Speaker 3: start this at eight, I don't trust my morning bike ride,
Speaker 3: so I go into.
Speaker 2: At one time I go in the workout room and workout.
Speaker 3: But the other I had three nights, three days in
Speaker 3: a row on the bike. Yeah, went to the Ventura
Speaker 3: Harbor yesterday morning.
Speaker 2: I was there the other night. Man. You talk about
Speaker 2: a cold place. Yes Sunday night, it was chilly on
Speaker 2: the Ventura Harbor. What and we got this zamboni going
Speaker 2: again today?
Speaker 3: You know, if he was out there like cutting the
Speaker 3: grass or pounding it down or whatever, it's one thing.
Speaker 3: They're blowing the stuff off. Yeah it's not a leaf roller,
Speaker 3: it's not a tractor. But he's got the biggest leaf blower.
Speaker 3: And now they're haling their oars.
Speaker 5: Goodness gracious, I mean they've been out here in six
Speaker 5: in the morning.
Speaker 3: Well, those are your people, you know.
Speaker 5: Oh oh, I'll give some calls operation people over everything.
Speaker 3: Excuse me? Can we not want to build on Savannah
Speaker 3: what her role is?
Speaker 2: And you were out here how how much earlier before?
Speaker 2: The team got here a week ago Tuesday? Yes, So
Speaker 2: a week ago yesterday? So we are into our second week.
Speaker 2: You're into how many weeks out here?
Speaker 5: And now I got here on July fifteenth, so I
Speaker 5: was here about eight days before.
Speaker 2: Just put that in perspective. That was the day before
Speaker 2: the Baseball All Star Game in Arlington, which seems like
Speaker 2: two months ago.
Speaker 3: And I was still on vacation.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know. I feel like I just live
Speaker 5: here permanently.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: I've just adapted to it. But I love it.
Speaker 3: Taxes.
Speaker 2: But if we ever have a problem, like if the
Speaker 2: power goes out or anything like that, called sah exactly.
Speaker 5: I helped the whole set up and operation out here,
Speaker 5: and you know, it's been fun. I love doing it.
Speaker 3: So were you guys glad finally the pads came on yesterday?
Speaker 2: I was very happy, Yes, very happy.
Speaker 5: Any any observations right off the back, What.
Speaker 2: Was the headline coming out of yesterday? What do you think, Mickey?
Speaker 2: I will tell you what my headline was last night
Speaker 2: on CBS.
Speaker 3: Okay, I would say there was two things. One kind
Speaker 3: of minor because it was going to happen eventually. Was
Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs coming off of pup. As we had pointed
Speaker 3: out here that that was just sort of they decided
Speaker 3: he just needed to keep rehabbing instead of screwing around
Speaker 3: on flag football practices. With those first four practice it
Speaker 3: was more meaningful him. It never had anything to do
Speaker 3: because I started hearing people, was he going to be
Speaker 3: ready for the start of the season.
Speaker 2: It's like, yes, it was, But it wasn't incidental that
Speaker 2: they activated him just in time for the first practice
Speaker 2: he had, right even though he's not out there yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even though he was, he didn't do any individual
Speaker 3: drills or team drills. Kind of worked on the side.
Speaker 3: They're gonna ramp them up, ease them in there's there's
Speaker 3: no rush. I thought the the big thing was before
Speaker 3: the day was over or the practice was over, that
Speaker 3: while Tyler Goeyton started with the second team, he ended
Speaker 3: up getting a whole lot of snaps with the first
Speaker 3: team offense. And I think they wanted to ease him
Speaker 3: in there. They didn't want him have the first team
Speaker 3: snap having up having to go against Michael Parsons. So
Speaker 3: the fact that they gradually got him more first team snaps,
Speaker 3: I thought was a step in the right direction.
Speaker 2: And that was by design. And that was my headline
Speaker 2: coming out of yesterday, Tyler Parsons, and that was what
Speaker 2: I was focused on. I had some videos that I
Speaker 2: tweeted out and got a lot of reaction on and Tyler.
Speaker 2: This is not about Michael Parsons at all, but that
Speaker 2: was a great day for Tyler guys.
Speaker 3: I thought he held his own. Yeah, it wasn't perfect,
Speaker 3: but he showed us.
Speaker 2: As you can see on some of the videos. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: they could have called a false start on one of them, and.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, but Micah jumped off side. Well, he
Speaker 3: was thinking he needed to get ahead.
Speaker 2: Start because he's no There was a little twitting on
Speaker 2: the one that they they on one of them that
Speaker 2: they didn't call it. There was a little twitch and uh,
Speaker 2: but they'll work that stuff out.
Speaker 3: So the thing I was concerned about him after watching
Speaker 3: some of his college video, what was his feet, Like
Speaker 3: how quickly can he move out there? And I thought
Speaker 3: he did a nice job. But I also noticed that
Speaker 3: his huge wingspan can compensate for if his feet aren't
Speaker 3: moving fast enough because he's got such a great reach.
Speaker 3: A lot of the videos that you put up, he
Speaker 3: was just running Mica to the outside and it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: if you want to go out to the outside and
Speaker 3: come in the back, find it and that then coming inside.
Speaker 2: And that's because of his length, right, I mean he
Speaker 2: could even just lean out there and push him far
Speaker 2: enough away to create a pocket for Dack.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I thought that was I mean, that's what
Speaker 3: eventually has to happen, right, In no way do they
Speaker 3: want Chuma Doogas starting, and so he's got to step
Speaker 3: up and become that starter they can rely on on
Speaker 3: the left side.
Speaker 5: But as you can see, like when these padded practices
Speaker 5: just keep going, you can see that comfort level and
Speaker 5: his confidence start to build. And since yesterday was the
Speaker 5: first one. We'll gradually see that over time, but you
Speaker 5: can see him looking comfortable yesterday in what he was doing,
Speaker 5: and I think that's really important as we continue this
Speaker 5: journey at training camp, and.
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy was sticking with as well, it's good to
Speaker 3: have competition. It's like, Okay, that sounds great. There should
Speaker 3: be no competition and if there is, then then there's
Speaker 3: a robbery about your first round draft voice. Right.
Speaker 5: I do have another note on the offensive line that
Speaker 5: I kind of noticed yesterday. Brock Hoffman was working with
Speaker 5: the first team a little bit more. So I think
Speaker 5: that does, you know, show a little bit with Cooper
Speaker 5: Bebie maybe how they're feeling about him and his confidence.
Speaker 5: But brock Hoffman was, he was getting more reps with
Speaker 5: the first team and so that was the team center.
Speaker 2: I think it says. I think it says more about
Speaker 2: what the respect that they have for what brock Hoffman
Speaker 2: has done to earn the opportunity to be that first
Speaker 2: team guy. And when they really don't know enough about
Speaker 2: their third round draft pick yet. I mean, typically a
Speaker 2: third round draft pick is not going to step in
Speaker 2: and be a starter immediately. There's a reason that they're
Speaker 2: not first round draft pick. You know, a first round
Speaker 2: draft pick like Travis Frederick comes in here and he's
Speaker 2: a starter immediately. I mean Travis Frederick with him at center,
Speaker 2: and there's much experience that he had playing the position
Speaker 2: of center, although I think he did play some guard
Speaker 2: at Wisconsin too. They've just from day one said okay,
Speaker 2: but they also had the option of not only brock Hoffman,
Speaker 2: but they're working TJ. Bassett center too. Guys with a
Speaker 2: couple of years at least a couple of years professional experience,
Speaker 2: rather than the rookie coming in here.
Speaker 3: Well, what they need to find and it was sort
Speaker 3: of brock Kaufman's job last year was if you're going
Speaker 3: to have a backup center active, he's also got to
Speaker 3: play guard. He's got to do two things. And that's
Speaker 3: one thing that I've seen them use Bb at guard too.
Speaker 3: I think they're only concerned with him right now is
Speaker 3: just how consistent his snaps will be because he's not
Speaker 3: used to doing it. Right.
Speaker 2: As to his mom in Spackyard, Yeah, right, as.
Speaker 3: A center blocking, he's he's perfect. Right. When you mentioned
Speaker 3: Travis Frederick, when he came out, he was the what
Speaker 3: is it the Remington Award winner in college be the
Speaker 3: best center. Uh So he was.
Speaker 2: Established and Beyondish was also at that level as far
Speaker 2: as how much he had played at center. And yeah,
Speaker 2: he's a fourth round pick who came in here and
Speaker 2: started early in his career. But the reason he was
Speaker 2: a fourth round pick was because he had some injury issues.
Speaker 2: There were a red flag on him coming out right medically.
Speaker 2: Otherwise he was a second or third round prospect.
Speaker 3: I'll give you a good example and hate to be,
Speaker 3: you know, going back to the old days, but Mark
Speaker 3: Stefanowski was a third round pick. He was a guard
Speaker 3: coming out of college and they were going to convert
Speaker 3: him to center, and he didn't start at center until
Speaker 3: maybe the last two or three games of the season.
Speaker 3: They gave him time to grow and then said, okay,
Speaker 3: this is where we're going. We're not going anywhere this
Speaker 3: one in fifteen seasons, so let's get him some starts
Speaker 3: and get them.
Speaker 2: Of course, that was a different era because you had
Speaker 2: players that stuck with your team for twelve years because
Speaker 2: there wasn't the dawna free agency yet. The NFL free
Speaker 2: agency happened started up during Stepnowsky's career, but not at
Speaker 2: the beginning of his career.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tom Rafferty had played the center position.
Speaker 2: Like for fifteen years or something like that, and.
Speaker 5: They did it a long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then that was his last year with the Cowboys,
Speaker 3: and then.
Speaker 2: That was Rafferty's last year. Stepnosky's first year.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: That what a great guy to learn from. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and then step ends up being.
Speaker 2: And ideally that's what you want. You want to have
Speaker 2: a and that's one of the things that all the
Speaker 2: players have been talking about and coaches about this offensive
Speaker 2: line group. They can't remember having this kind of depth
Speaker 2: before on the offensive line, and some of it's not
Speaker 2: proven in terms of game experience, but they've been around
Speaker 2: a while. The Matt Willetsko's of the world is Josh
Speaker 2: Balls of the world and awesome Richards speaking of him, Yep,
Speaker 2: he's come on here.
Speaker 3: I noticed that when when they use Geiton as the
Speaker 3: second team i mean the first team tackle, Richards was
Speaker 3: getting some second team work at tackle, not at guard.
Speaker 2: Which is what he played at North Carolina.
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, so that was and again, you need guys
Speaker 3: to be versatile. If you're going to be active on
Speaker 3: game day, you got to do a couple of things,
Speaker 3: especially on the offensive line. And I think and Nate
Speaker 3: Newton told me this. He was watching the offensive line
Speaker 3: work and he come by it and he goes, boy,
Speaker 3: Mike Solar, he's a really good coach. It really is there.
Speaker 3: Lucky to have them, because Savannah and I were watching
Speaker 3: the one on one drills and uh, it was pretty
Speaker 3: good stuff.
Speaker 2: And uh and and by the way, by design, in
Speaker 2: the one on one pass rush drills, the coaches did
Speaker 2: not match up Guidon against Parsons. In fact, to the
Speaker 2: extent that they wanted to make sure it didn't happen
Speaker 2: that Micah didn't jump in line.
Speaker 3: They put Giton in a group on the other field
Speaker 3: opposite from the split them up the three threes on three.
Speaker 2: Eventually it did happen. Yeah, you know, back on Tyler
Speaker 2: Geyton here. Uh and and to your point on Solari,
Speaker 2: there was one player that I noticed, uh. And this
Speaker 2: is what's so fun about being able to see all
Speaker 2: the practices and really see the inner workings of what's
Speaker 2: going on and uh, the relationship between coaches and players
Speaker 2: and so forth, how they're getting coached up. There was
Speaker 2: one play where Trey Lance was at quarterback and he
Speaker 2: wound up scrambling into the out to the left side
Speaker 2: to guide inside of the field and Solari after that
Speaker 2: play yelled. I couldn't tell exactly what he yelled at
Speaker 2: Tyler Guyton, but he yelled something at him, and it
Speaker 2: was what was on an extended play like that, He
Speaker 2: can't just quit, you know, Yeah, Okay, you're not done.
Speaker 2: You got to go find somebody to block or I
Speaker 2: believe that's what he was he was telling I would
Speaker 2: so anyway, it's just interesting to see all that. The
Speaker 2: other thing about Tyler Geyton that I've been impressed with is, uh,
Speaker 2: he has he has a maturity level about him. I
Speaker 2: think Mickey, you may have talked about it the other
Speaker 2: day here. You know, you could tell when he was
Speaker 2: drafted and just meeting his family, what a great family.
Speaker 2: And uh they were at the at the Star taking
Speaker 2: the tour.
Speaker 3: And athletic too.
Speaker 2: Yeah by the way, but yeah, his dad played. I
Speaker 2: can't remember.
Speaker 5: He was a basketball I think it was basketball.
Speaker 6: It was basketball, Yeah, But anyway, he was giddy when
Speaker 6: he and the whole family was taking a tour of
Speaker 6: the Star and I mean it was a dream come
Speaker 6: true to play for the team.
Speaker 2: You rooted for growing up. But there even in the
Speaker 2: short time since then, there's a level of maturity that
Speaker 2: I've seen from Tyler and the way he answers questions.
Speaker 2: Like his media session the other day, he was he
Speaker 2: was brief with a lot of his answers, but as
Speaker 2: we went along he became uh, the answers became longer
Speaker 2: or whatever. But there was not a cockiness about him.
Speaker 2: There was not. It was he knew his place. He's
Speaker 2: a rookie and he's got to earn his stripes here.
Speaker 2: But it was I thought by there were some eloquent
Speaker 2: things that he said in his interview that really impressed
Speaker 2: me that hey, this kid has a great head on
Speaker 2: his shoulders, and uh, this is a I came away said,
Speaker 2: this is a guy you want to root for. I mean,
Speaker 2: because it really means something to him.
Speaker 3: He was I think maybe the word is he was
Speaker 3: pretty much understated. He just was very brief with his
Speaker 3: answers and asked about goals and he basically said, uh,
Speaker 3: play with a lot of energy and grit. They asked
Speaker 3: him about getting those snaps with the first team in
Speaker 3: that mock the mock practice, and he basically said, I
Speaker 3: go where the coaches tell me. He wasn't like, you know,
Speaker 3: proclaiming I'm the first team left tackle, right, So yeah,
Speaker 3: I thought, you're right and that and that's what you need.
Speaker 3: And he's a little bit older, and he's like twenty
Speaker 3: Is he twenty three?
Speaker 2: He I wrote it down the other day. No, he's not.
Speaker 2: He's twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: Oh excuse me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, which is which you would think he
Speaker 2: would be older than that. He can't. He must have
Speaker 2: graduated high school early. I mean not early in years,
Speaker 2: but he had as a seventeen year old, because he's
Speaker 2: he was at TCU for two years before he transferred
Speaker 2: Oklahoma for two years.
Speaker 3: So he hadn't played a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: But he did go to college for four years. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so he was a seventeen year old graduate of high
Speaker 2: school in Manor, Texas.
Speaker 3: Gosh, I think I was already eighteen going on nineteen.
Speaker 2: Right, all right, we're just getting started here. It was
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Speaker 5: All right, guys, are we doing Savannah Siding? Okay, you
Speaker 5: know what We're going to dive into. John Stevens. I
Speaker 5: saw him the other day. He was out here pretty late,
Speaker 5: probably seven seven point thirty, just kind of doing some
Speaker 5: some work on the field by himself, had his headphones in,
Speaker 5: just kind of getting comfortable on the field and was
Speaker 5: just doing a few movements based off of, you know,
Speaker 5: his injury and how he was rehabbing this season. He's
Speaker 5: a guy that everyone should be kind of keeping an
Speaker 5: eye on right now. His rehab went very well and
Speaker 5: he's looking very healthy. But to see him out here
Speaker 5: just kind of grounding himself a little bit. And then
Speaker 5: the way he's kind of been working so far in
Speaker 5: training camp. I really like his progress right now. What
Speaker 5: do you guys kind of think about that?
Speaker 3: And we have to preface that with he was doing
Speaker 3: that on his own, okay, by himself. It didn't count
Speaker 3: against the leven no.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And by the way, if if any of you aren't
Speaker 2: familiar with it, it's eleven hour work days where the
Speaker 2: coaches could work with the players and to the point
Speaker 2: that they will make announcements at a certain time. They've
Speaker 2: got it worked out through through the day, a lot
Speaker 2: of it. Okay, these are the hours that the coaches
Speaker 2: are working. At the end of practice, they will make
Speaker 2: an announcement, all coaches off the field, all coaches off
Speaker 2: the field.
Speaker 3: So and speaking of the tight ends, is that the
Speaker 3: new media guy, Yes, it is one.
Speaker 5: We need copy of that one.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've been waiting for its arrival. There. They got
Speaker 2: to get the spiral one.
Speaker 5: Where did we get one?
Speaker 3: A headset? Well, were you going to say, vickey, I
Speaker 3: was going to say, talking about the tight ends, they
Speaker 3: got too many tight ends. Somebody is going to be
Speaker 3: playing for another team. I count five and I don't
Speaker 3: know you know, but but some of them onto the
Speaker 3: practice squad.
Speaker 2: Jake Ferguson counts seven, counts, he counts two. He counts
Speaker 2: because he counts the fullbacks.
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm talking about the amounts eyes that can
Speaker 3: actually make the team.
Speaker 2: Not not the Jake fergus but Jake Ferguson the other
Speaker 2: day he said, uh, he was asked about the the
Speaker 2: tight end depth right, and he said he loves it.
Speaker 2: He said that he thinks all seven of them can
Speaker 2: can make another team in the well. But I think
Speaker 2: what he's doing because what you see, what you see
Speaker 2: Hunter Lipke is out there doing some tight end things
Speaker 2: even though he is a running back slash fullback. Uh
Speaker 2: and which just adds to his versatility if he can,
Speaker 2: if he can do some of the sub package type
Speaker 2: tight end type stuff, that can make him active on.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know about Princeton Fan and Alec Holler.
Speaker 2: But Princeton Fan is another one who has more of
Speaker 2: a full back type body because he's shorter, but does
Speaker 2: tight end is working as a tight end.
Speaker 3: So look at it. You got Jake Ferguson, you got
Speaker 3: Luke Schoonmaker, you got John Stevens, you got Peyton Hendershot,
Speaker 3: and you got this new guy, Revin spahn Ford who
Speaker 3: keeps showing up. That's five guys to me that can
Speaker 3: readily make this team. And I don't know if if
Speaker 3: guys like that on the bottom end of that five
Speaker 3: play well in preseason games, you're not going to sneak
Speaker 3: them onto the practice for well.
Speaker 2: And they literally do have seven tight ends on the roster,
Speaker 2: not even including Hunter Lipke. He gets work as a
Speaker 2: tight end at times because they've got a free agent.
Speaker 2: Alc Haller is another one. So I mean, I think
Speaker 2: you rattled off six of them in the seventh as
Speaker 2: Alec Haller.
Speaker 5: I think this is a group that we need to
Speaker 5: look a little bit more at. And I've talked about
Speaker 5: this the first show that we did as far as
Speaker 5: a battle. Obviously, Jake Ferguson big leader as far as
Speaker 5: this group goes, but I'm kind of keeping an eye
Speaker 5: also on Luke Schoonmaker and Peyton Hendershot both coming off
Speaker 5: of some injuries and just you know, trying to make
Speaker 5: that step up to see who's kind of going to
Speaker 5: get more reps as far as the tight ends go,
Speaker 5: and I'm really looking at Luke schoon Maker in that area.
Speaker 5: Peyton Hendershot a little bit more on the back runner
Speaker 5: based on his injuries in previous seasons. You know, he's
Speaker 5: been a little bit more and he.
Speaker 3: Missed some time off that yeah, off season, but exactly,
Speaker 3: and a lot of this is not about catching the ball.
Speaker 3: You got a block and I thought, you know, over
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, the Cowboys deficiency going two
Speaker 3: tight end was having reliable blockers out there.
Speaker 2: One way or another, there's going to be four tight
Speaker 2: ends on this team.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, one.
Speaker 2: Way or another. Now, at the final cutdown day, they
Speaker 2: may cut where you only have three, but there's enough
Speaker 2: depth there where they will or there will be injuries
Speaker 2: that occur or whatever, but they will be using four
Speaker 2: tight ends throughout the season just because that's and most
Speaker 2: teams are like that. There are some teams that have
Speaker 2: three tight ends, but in the NFL, it's a a
Speaker 2: lot of time for I'd say at least half the
Speaker 2: league it's a four tight end roster. And we saw
Speaker 2: it was Sean McEwan last year where he was with
Speaker 2: the Cowboys practice squad and get called up whatever for
Speaker 2: a time, got picked up by an their team, then
Speaker 2: comes back to the Cowboys and now I think he's
Speaker 2: with Detroit. But but anyway, it's a it's a it's
Speaker 2: a position. Here's another thing about tighty end. Think about
Speaker 2: the teams that went deep in the playoffs last year
Speaker 2: and the tight end position. All right, Kansas City obviously
Speaker 2: with Travis Kelcey. You got San Francisco with George Kittle,
Speaker 2: you got Detroit and their young tight end Sam Laporta,
Speaker 2: you go. You got Baltimore's with Mark Andrews at tight end.
Speaker 2: The tight end position, well, Dalton Schultz at Houston. I mean,
Speaker 2: they didn't make a deep run, but right, the tight
Speaker 2: end position is one that and I think the Cowboys
Speaker 2: feel very good about their tight end position here.
Speaker 3: At the When they didn't rec Dalton Schultz and he
Speaker 3: goes to Houston, there was a lot of hand ringing
Speaker 3: going on outside, like, oh, what are they going to
Speaker 3: do at Bright Then right, and then Jake Ferguson makes
Speaker 3: that huge leap from his rookie year to last year,
Speaker 3: showing that he's as good, if not better tight end
Speaker 3: than Dalton Schultz, so you know, if he takes another step,
Speaker 3: I mean, if I remember correctly, he had the second
Speaker 3: most catches on the team last year, right, it was
Speaker 3: seventy seventy something.
Speaker 5: We've also talked about that attitude as far as the
Speaker 5: tight end position goes, and you can see that attitude
Speaker 5: that Jake Ferguson has and just the way he plays
Speaker 5: and even last season there were some games where you
Speaker 5: know he's sticking up for his team and he's doing
Speaker 5: things hurdling. You know, he just has that drive in
Speaker 5: him and that's very necessary in this tight end position
Speaker 5: as well. He just has that attitude that he can
Speaker 5: carry and that's what we love to see.
Speaker 3: Seventy one catches second on the team, seven hundred and
Speaker 3: sixty one yards second on the team, and five touchdowns
Speaker 3: which was third behind Ceed Lambs twelve and Brandon.
Speaker 2: Cook's eight, which doesn't count the three touchdowns he scored
Speaker 2: in a playoff game, that's right, which gets you up
Speaker 2: to eight.
Speaker 3: So yeah, the tight end position. I told LNDA Wells,
Speaker 3: I said, you got too many tight ends. He goes never.
Speaker 2: That's a good sighting. I like that sighting. And by
Speaker 2: the way schoonmaker. This is a big year for him
Speaker 2: from going first year to site a year. But he's
Speaker 2: more of the inline blocker. But can what's to show
Speaker 2: that he can do some things in the passing game
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know how much they like going two
Speaker 3: tight end, so they need they need that, They need
Speaker 3: two guys that are decent blockers, because when you put
Speaker 3: two tight ends out there, a lot of times you're saying, hey,
Speaker 3: we're going to run the ball. But it's not all
Speaker 3: about catching that. Blocking is important.
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Speaker 5: I got up very early again this morning to do
Speaker 5: my little run. Did some stuff on the field here,
Speaker 5: but on.
Speaker 3: My way wait, what's very early?
Speaker 5: I got up at five forty five. Oh well, you
Speaker 5: said you didn't want to do your bike ride this morning,
Speaker 5: but you wanted to stay around here. I had to
Speaker 5: do the same thing.
Speaker 3: I got to. But well, that's only I got up
Speaker 3: at six fifteen. That's that's not that early.
Speaker 5: See, I got to get myself going into the morning,
Speaker 5: get some coffee afterwards. But on my way out here
Speaker 5: to do some jogging, I saw Mozzy Smith as I
Speaker 5: was passing the weight room. He was in there already
Speaker 5: working out in the morning. So I love seeing that. Honestly,
Speaker 5: I know that they're McCarthy said that they're close to
Speaker 5: having him back at the weight that they want. That's
Speaker 5: something he's mentioned several times in press conferences the last
Speaker 5: few days. But you know, it does start in the
Speaker 5: weight room. And what they're doing with them exactly.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and before Mickey chimes in on that, I'll add
Speaker 2: to that. Okay, So you saw him into the weight
Speaker 2: room early in the morning. I didn't see this, but
Speaker 2: my photographer at CBS eleven, Bill Ellis, told me that,
Speaker 2: aside from the specialist who come on the practice field early,
Speaker 2: Bill was in position yesterday first day in pads to
Speaker 2: get video of all the players coming on the field.
Speaker 3: Of course you need that. That's right, you know, it's.
Speaker 2: The iconic shot in Zach.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: The reason why we were getting it mainly was because
Speaker 2: Zach Martin said the other day it's weird for him
Speaker 2: to have a training camp practice and not walk on
Speaker 2: the field alongside big number seventy seven Tyron Smith. So he,
Speaker 2: by the way, Zack Martin walked onto the field by
Speaker 2: his lonesome. Used to remember when Travis was here, you'd
Speaker 2: have the big three that would all walk on the
Speaker 2: field together.
Speaker 5: Real quick. Speaking of Travis, can we just mention how
Speaker 5: he came to practice the other day? We have to
Speaker 5: say that it was that towards the end of practice
Speaker 5: he stopped by said height to the team, that was cool.
Speaker 2: He he's got a place that he's living out here
Speaker 2: or something. I think living now, maybe not living out here,
Speaker 2: but he's where he's staying.
Speaker 3: He said, yeah, and he said he just came out
Speaker 3: he wanted to see. I said, you can't stay away.
Speaker 3: He's uh, he's a businessman now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well he'll be a very good business How many
Speaker 2: degrees did he have from Wisconsin? All these engineering.
Speaker 3: Business that he already sold and he's starting another.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe it. Yeah, he's going to be successful
Speaker 2: in whatever he does. All right, But who is the
Speaker 2: first cowboy outside of the specialist, the kickers and long snapper.
Speaker 2: Who is the first Dallas cowboy on the field. Yesterday
Speaker 2: we were just talking about him.
Speaker 5: Let's go.
Speaker 2: That's great, continue Mickey on. Yeah.
Speaker 3: By the way, so he's immediately working with the first
Speaker 3: team defensive front and I thought he I thought he
Speaker 3: had a nice day. I saw one play where he
Speaker 3: got double teamed, and I I believe they were against
Speaker 3: the first team offensive line. He held his ground on
Speaker 3: the double team and then slid off and made the
Speaker 3: tackle to his well tackle, he got in the way
Speaker 3: of the running back. And it's like, that's what they
Speaker 3: need right there. They don't need him penetrating, trying to
Speaker 3: make tackles behind the line of scrimmage. Just needs to
Speaker 3: hold things up and you know, if he gets his
Speaker 3: weight to where he said three ten, three point fifteen, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think he can be a player, and he has
Speaker 3: to be. They don't have any depth there to speak of. So,
Speaker 3: like Michael Parson said, when they asked him, what do
Speaker 3: you think he can be? And he goes, not what
Speaker 3: he can be, it's what he has to be. And
Speaker 3: I think that's the bottom line on him this year.
Speaker 3: The birds are upset up there. Huh.
Speaker 2: All right, here's a question for you. That was a
Speaker 2: good Savannah sidding again. I like that.
Speaker 5: Great.
Speaker 2: What Dallas cowboy has the most followers on social media?
Speaker 5: I went ahead and said, ceedee lamb.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Michael Parsons, how about Dak Prescott?
Speaker 5: Well, Bill, you'll learn something new every day. That was
Speaker 5: a good It's not the answer, No, it's.
Speaker 3: Not who by the way, just turned thirty one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty ninth. All right. The player with the most
Speaker 2: followers on social media is a guy who plays in
Speaker 2: the defensive backfield and he's not named Trayvon. He wears
Speaker 2: number thirty one. His name is Josh Butler. Butler, Josh Butler.
Speaker 2: Why Josh Butler TV on TikTok. Really, He's from West
Speaker 2: Mosquite High School in the Dallas Fort Worth area. He
Speaker 2: went to Michigan State. He went to Michigan State. He's
Speaker 2: got two dogs named Roxy and to Me, who are
Speaker 2: featured heavily on TikTok. Josh, guess how many followers Josh
Speaker 2: Butler has on TikTok.
Speaker 5: I'm going to go with like five million, five million.
Speaker 2: She's a TikToker.
Speaker 5: I'm going to go with five million numbers, am I cloth?
Speaker 2: Well, relatively you went high though a million, it's less
Speaker 2: than five million.
Speaker 3: Give her take a million?
Speaker 2: Yeah, three point three million followers TikTok.
Speaker 5: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: Because of his dogs.
Speaker 2: Well, he just he posts. He's a great story. I
Speaker 2: interviewed him yesterday and sat down with him and when
Speaker 2: he was at Michigan State. I mean, it's a tragic story.
Speaker 2: He lost his father. He had a heart attack while
Speaker 2: he was well. Josh was in school at Michigan State
Speaker 2: and his mom had stage four breast cancer. She passed away,
Speaker 2: I believe during his senior year at Michigan State. And
Speaker 2: so there's a viral. On senior day, he went. You know,
Speaker 2: typically you have your parents to walk on the field
Speaker 2: with you on senior Day and honoring all the seniors. Well,
Speaker 2: he had his two dogs, rock Say and Remy, who
Speaker 2: went on the field with him. But so then so
Speaker 2: he graduated in twenty nineteen, okay, and didn't really catch
Speaker 2: on with anybody during that season that coming out of college.
Speaker 2: So then Covid hits Okay, he's got a master's degree
Speaker 2: from Michigan State. It's an entertainment I can't remember the
Speaker 2: specific name of it, but it's a television entertainment type degree,
Speaker 2: a master's degree. And so he went to LA and
Speaker 2: started his career, but at the same time was you know,
Speaker 2: working on his honing his craft as a football player too.
Speaker 2: Finally got an opportunity last year twenty twenty three. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is four years after graduating from college with the
Speaker 2: USFL Michigan Panthers, and had a really good season with
Speaker 2: the Michigan Panthers. And so last year, about this time
Speaker 2: last year, July twenty fifth of last year, Cowboys signed him.
Speaker 2: And you remember him from the preseason last year. He's
Speaker 2: wearing number forty last year in the preseason games, and
Speaker 2: it was on the practice squad all year and now
Speaker 2: here he is going into the second season with the
Speaker 2: Cowboys and made an interception on the first or second
Speaker 2: day of camp out here on the sideline right behind
Speaker 2: us over here, and anyway, really cool, number thirty one.
Speaker 5: That's an interesting one.
Speaker 3: And you know what, he's got a chance to make
Speaker 3: this team. Yeah, because they've got to find.
Speaker 2: Good size, six foot eighty five. He ran a four
Speaker 2: to three to two. And I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is true or not, but it says I saw somewhere
Speaker 2: his ten yards split the first ten the first ten
Speaker 2: yards of forty at his pro day one point three six.
Speaker 2: There is no way that's true. I asked him about it,
Speaker 2: and he said, he said he was so when he trained,
Speaker 2: he trained with his dogs.
Speaker 5: He trained his dogs roxy.
Speaker 2: And what a guy. But there, I still I'm not
Speaker 2: buying that one. Right. The lowest I've ever heard is
Speaker 2: one four five.
Speaker 5: But never shaking his hands here, do you believe it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: The producer Supreme has now followed him on TikTok Josh
Speaker 2: Butler's Dogs after I highly doubt that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the most important thing is after all this,
Speaker 3: he's got a chance to be the fourth corner the
Speaker 3: way he's performed, not only here, but during the off
Speaker 3: season workouts, the ot as in mini camp when uh,
Speaker 3: because you usually those guys don't worry about their numbers
Speaker 3: until you know it becomes preseason game type. But I
Speaker 3: know he's number thirty one, and I've seen him make plays,
Speaker 3: and I think he's got a real chance because right
Speaker 3: now they're where they're they're playing it. They're relying on
Speaker 3: Naseean Wright as the fourth corner or the third corner
Speaker 3: without Trayvon Diggs out there, right, I think this guy
Speaker 3: has got a shot. And he made leap Eric Scott,
Speaker 3: who they drafted in the first pick in the sixth
Speaker 3: round last year. So they need depth at the cornerback spot.
Speaker 2: How about shout out to the scouting.
Speaker 3: Staff, Yeah, finding the guy.
Speaker 2: Now he did go to USFL and shout out to
Speaker 2: Daryl Johnston. And and we've already seen on this team
Speaker 2: with Camante Turpin and Brandon Aubrey, they've become Pro bowlers
Speaker 2: coming out of the USFL. And what a great story
Speaker 2: it would be if Josh Butler, he was able to
Speaker 2: establish himself and the NFL.
Speaker 3: Which, by the way, speaking of Brandon Aubrey, we got
Speaker 3: to see him kick for the first time in training camp.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that was his first kicking session
Speaker 3: or not, but he went seven of eight between thirty
Speaker 3: three and forty one yards, So he had a good
Speaker 3: day kicking in and they always kick into this blessed wind.
Speaker 3: That just ridiculous. He had a second attempt at the
Speaker 3: end on a thirty three yarder and it kind of
Speaker 3: faded to the right, but other than that, he was
Speaker 3: near perfect, which is good to see because they were
Speaker 3: going to back off with him in the offseason since
Speaker 3: he kicked so much last year a USFL season and
Speaker 3: then eighteen games in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Well, the other part of it is now with the
Speaker 2: they're going to have to work. They're working more on
Speaker 2: their kickoffs because of the new kickoff rule and so,
Speaker 2: and he's involved in that as well. So I'm a
Speaker 2: little surprised, and even yesterday just watching Brian Anger punt,
Speaker 2: you know during the special teams drills, it's a little
Speaker 2: surprising you don't have an extra kicker or punter in
Speaker 2: camp or a dual guy who can take some of
Speaker 2: his hat off just just to be able to conduct practice.
Speaker 2: Now you can use a jugs.
Speaker 3: Machine's going to say, that's what the but and they
Speaker 3: use that for the punts a lot.
Speaker 5: Do you have a side note actually on some of
Speaker 5: the punt returners. We actually were looking yesterday Mickey and I, Douce, Fawn, Cavante, Turpin,
Speaker 5: but also Tyrone. Billy Johnson was out there returning some punts.
Speaker 3: Which is that's going to be the next big Yeah,
Speaker 3: Billy t building.
Speaker 5: Been great at camp so far.
Speaker 3: Great, he's showing up. Check this out. He was undrafted
Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen. He started it.
Speaker 2: Well, here's another one. Here's another one. Jsh Butler was
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. These are older guys. He had twenty seven
Speaker 2: year old guys.
Speaker 3: And he had gone to LSU for a year, transferred
Speaker 3: to Oklahoma State, went undrafted. Houston signed him as an
Speaker 3: an undrafted free agent. Get this. He's been with nine
Speaker 3: different teams, mostly practice squad and he's been with Houston
Speaker 3: three times. Initially again they picked him up later in
Speaker 3: a practice squad, and then they picked him up again
Speaker 3: later than that and had him active on the fifty
Speaker 3: three man roster for a month. So he's been around,
Speaker 3: he's he's older. But number thirteen. I know he's got
Speaker 3: number thirteen and he makes catches every day and he
Speaker 3: does something to catch your eyes.
Speaker 2: So if he makes the TV will not continue to
Speaker 2: have number thirteen. No, number thirteen.
Speaker 3: He has that, but something else will open up, right
Speaker 3: because somebody will get cut. So but that interesting, interesting story.
Speaker 2: Here's the other thing on that, And with a guy
Speaker 2: like Josh Butler, how big has the expansion of the
Speaker 2: practice squad and the way they have lacked the rules
Speaker 2: on the practice squad where veterans can be on practice squads.
Speaker 2: How great has that been for the players in this league?
Speaker 2: And it's great for the owners too from a standpoint
Speaker 2: that you can actually have guys available. There's no good
Speaker 2: things that came out of COVID, but that is one
Speaker 2: thing that has been I think it is great for
Speaker 2: the Players Association as far as these guys. Now you're
Speaker 2: sticking with a team and you get an opportunity to
Speaker 2: develop your skills and eventually you know you'll get your
Speaker 2: opportunity to be on a fifty three man roster.
Speaker 3: Maybe because the Cowboys picked them up last year and
Speaker 3: put them on the practice squad, and if I remember correctly,
Speaker 3: the practice squad went from eight to twelve. Now it's sixteen,
Speaker 3: right with no regulation on and then the other that guy.
Speaker 5: And you have a seventeenth spot for your international guy
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: And I named Denzel Dason in that UH and the
Speaker 3: Savannah Unearthed.
Speaker 2: And these guys actually get an opportunity to play in
Speaker 2: games or be on a game day roster because of
Speaker 2: the rules that they can pull them up for up
Speaker 2: to three games, and because the injured reserve rules changed
Speaker 2: as well to where you know, it wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 2: You put a guy on injured reserve and he's out
Speaker 2: for the year. You can only bring one guy back.
Speaker 2: But now they've got new rules on that here in
Speaker 2: the last few years since COVID, basically that you can
Speaker 2: bring him back after four weeks.
Speaker 3: I mean, it just makes common sense.
Speaker 2: Why why was how much money are the owners wasting? Yes,
Speaker 2: with the old rule, now, the reason they had that
Speaker 2: in place was stashing players whatever. But there's enough players
Speaker 2: to go around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you look at it, when you look
Speaker 3: at the offensive line, there's not enough players to go around.
Speaker 3: Not enough talented players, and it's hard to develop those
Speaker 3: guys because they don't get to practice in pads. And
Speaker 3: so yeah, make more guys available and have a bigger
Speaker 3: talent pool than having a restrictive one like they used
Speaker 3: to have.
Speaker 5: But it is great seeing some of these guys you know,
Speaker 5: come in from the USFL or just other teams that
Speaker 5: have bounced around a lot on different practice squads. It's
Speaker 5: great seeing them at camp right now showcase those skills
Speaker 5: and you're getting those those pickups. As far as storylines go,
Speaker 5: there there are some guys putting in the work and
Speaker 5: getting noticed right now, and that's really exciting for these guys.
Speaker 5: They have some chances here.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna leave you with one thing you need can
Speaker 3: chew on?
Speaker 2: I saw.
Speaker 3: Dan Orlovsky. Is that the guy's name?
Speaker 9: Is?
Speaker 5: He?
Speaker 3: On ESPN, the.
Speaker 2: NFL network whatever they would CPN he.
Speaker 3: Had his top five NFC quarterbacks. Oh oh, they are
Speaker 3: in order, Matthew Stafford, Well, okay, top five and NFC
Speaker 3: NFC quarterbacks you want to guess, No, you.
Speaker 2: Give it to us because we're getting a rap from
Speaker 2: producer Suprio. Nate has arrived and he wants.
Speaker 5: On okay, Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford, Jordan Love Love, Rock Purty Kirk Cousins, and
Speaker 3: Jarrett Goff. And the immediate reaction from one of the
Speaker 3: guys on the panel goes, where the hell is Dak Prescott?
Speaker 3: And his answer was, well, who would you put him over? Wow?
Speaker 3: Seriously Wow. He's always been not a Dak Prescott fan.
Speaker 3: So anyway, I thought I'd just.
Speaker 5: Leave you well, I will leave you guys with this
Speaker 5: today for practice. It is our Hero's Day, so we
Speaker 5: will have our military heroes out here and keep an
Speaker 5: eye out for a potential flyover.
Speaker 3: Oh how about that?
Speaker 2: All right? Heroes Appreciation Day. And by the way, the
Speaker 2: cars were lined up this morning outside of the arketst
Speaker 2: and there were more than what there were yesterday lined up,
Speaker 2: so maybe they are aware.
Speaker 3: That we have to appreciation day, we have to give
Speaker 3: way to our hero right nor ready to go?
Speaker 2: All right? That does it for mix shots. And by
Speaker 2: the way, next week, after they get rid of me,
Speaker 2: Nate Newton will be sitting in my chair here on
Speaker 2: mix shots and so that'll be something really look forward to.
Speaker 2: All right, enjoy your Wednesday. We will enjoy our second
Speaker 2: padded practice at training camp, and we'll talk to you
Speaker 2: again on Friday, ten am Dallas time.