WEBVTT - Happy Half Hour Episode 78: Always Be Closing 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:04.480 When it's thirteen nothing and the Saints score touchdown to 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:06.760 get it a little closer. I think everybody in the 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:10.760 building thought, oh, is something coming. And to answer that 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:14.319 immediately with score your own, with Laviska making the big play, 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:19.000 I think that just made such a difference for these guys. 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:25.119 That's right, it's that time of the week. It's a 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:28.200 happy half hour podcast with your friends, Augusta Darren and 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:32.680 Kristen Darren. Happy victory Thursday. I mean, we know victory 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:35.639 Monday is a thing, but I just think we take 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:39.080 it all week long, right, carry on the victory constant, victory, 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:43.920 victory Saturday, victory Friday. Why not so much winning? Winning 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:45.880 every day? You're always winning when you're in this building 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:51.880 with these people. Let's put that on a T shirt. 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:55.760 I love it. I love it. But it is a 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:57.960 different field than the last two weeks in which we've 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:01.760 done this podcast after losses. It's undeniable. Yeah, there's no question. 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.080 When you walk through these buildings, you can tell the 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:07.000 temperature of the place is different. I mean, and it's 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.600 cooler for one. Okay, we've gotta stop on building on Augusta. 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:13.240 Now they're getting all getting our jokes input, but try 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:17.280 to deal. Um. But yeah, you can tell a difference 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.200 in the room. I mean, I think at O and 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.560 to everybody, you know, they were trying to push against 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.679 the seven from last year and whether that carried over 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.120 and do you call it a streak or whatever. But 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:29.640 at O and two it was kind of hard to 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:31.880 deny that everybody was starting to get a little worried 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.679 about the direction things were going. And you know, when 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.039 they were talking oh and two and talking about things 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.360 are close, it didn't sound normal. But when you win 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.880 a game and then you see, okay, the things they 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.640 weren't doing all of a sudden they're doing better at 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.240 and you see a tangible result, it does. It makes 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.480 a difference in the building. And these human beings that 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:54.000 do this stuff, um, kind of they try to stay 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.560 as normal as they can, but it's expected to kind 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:59.000 of go up and down with results. Well. And also 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.040 to see that the the work you've been doing is 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.320 paying off, right, that that is a big thing, whether 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:08.040 or not you want to say, oh, it's the same 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:11.600 no matter what. But I think, especially like for this defense, 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.440 they created three turnovers. The game was one, right, they 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:16.760 had not had any turnovers in those first two games 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:18.680 as much as of a step that they took from 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.720 week one to week two. You've got to think that 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:25.840 just for the simple fact that, hey, our hard work 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:27.880 is paying off the things that we have been trying 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.760 to do an execute on we did and then we 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.280 see the result has got to feel great well. And 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.519 the other, you know, piece of simple fact is that 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.840 they want to know in the NFC South and that's 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.360 like a good, you know, breath of fresh air kind 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.400 of I mean, everything is still in front of us 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:44.480 sort of mentality that I think I've heard. I've heard 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:46.000 it buzz in the locker room. I've heard that, and 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.519 I think that's that's extremely valid, and you know that's 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:52.120 that's a reason to be an important And the Box 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.920 have the Chiefs this weekend. So two and two for 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.600 the Box is reasonable. I Mean, you never know what's 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.680 going to happen in these games, but I I do 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:04.720 think that having something within reach that you can kind 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.400 of see makes a big difference for these guys in 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.279 terms of the attitude they walked through the building with. Absolutely. 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.120 So let's uh, let's play a little game. Um, we're 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:16.000 gonna we've done it before. What do we know about 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.200 this team. What don't we know about this team? As 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.239 we um, you know, we're into um, it's almost time 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.480 for Week four against the Cardinals, So let's talk about 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.240 what we've learned and some things that we are still 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:28.600 trying to figure out. So what, Gust, I'll start with you. 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.560 What do we know about the Panthers right now? Sort 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.079 of already mentioned it a little bit, but I will 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.600 say they can create turnovers and I think under the 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.640 pressure undressed. I mean, after the postgame locker room, you know, 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:40.400 one of the big questions was did you feel the 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.520 pressure coming in the week? Every single question was, oh 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.120 my gosh, you're the only team that hasn't gotten a 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.240 takeaway yet. What's going on in the defense? Was like, 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:48.680 I mean, yeah, I know we're solid, but we still 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:50.400 haven't got a takeaway. We still haven't got a takeaway. 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.680 And something so just divine and nice about the fact 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:55.960 that it was Frankie Lubu that force that first fumble 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:59.600 after he had dropped the interception the potential pick six 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.680 up in New York. I mean, it's storylines in front 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.080 of your face, right, Um. But it's one of those 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.760 things when you have an offense, you know, just kind 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:11.160 of that, especially early on sort of struggles to get downfield, 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.800 struggles to stay on the field, um, to get your 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:17.359 first touchdown on defense on a takeaway, and then to 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.320 have it like they said all week we heard, you know, 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:21.000 they were like, takeaways are one of those things that 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.200 when they happen, they keep happening. You know, they happen 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.000 in jolts, and they happen in bolts. We saw three, 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.400 We saw the game taking or sealed away by J. C. 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:29.840 Horren with one, and so I just feel like we 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.840 we learned that and also like they showed us, you know, 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.159 it's not frustration in the weeks before, I wouldn't say, 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.240 but you know, I mean, oh, the defense is good. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:39.880 The defense is the strength of the team. And they'll 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.159 say that, but then you're like, well where the takeaways? 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.680 Whereas the numbers? And so they were able to kind 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:46.840 of get there with that, and um, you know, I 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.520 think I think that's that's a good thing to build 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.400 off of. Like they said, it will happen in in 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:54.320 in in uh you know, bunches, bunches. Yeah, so yeah, 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.320 And I you know, it's funny you said that about 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.719 Frankie Luvu and and after the one that um, he 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.680 did not make against the Giants, but each turnover had 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.800 its own little story. As I was down there on 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:09.920 the sideline, Augusta, you put it perfectly with the Luvu 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.760 getting that ball out, Marquis scoop and score like just 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.400 I mean, just bolting down there to the end zone, 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.800 showing off that speed. And then you see Derek Brown 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.320 with the one handed interception. In the play before that, 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.400 he had a legitimate chance to make an interception. We're like, 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.480 oh my gosh, she's this close. And then he goes 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:28.120 out and does it. I mean he I mean looks 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.680 some tbs would like to have made the interception that 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.520 Derek made with that one hander. And then J. C. 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.040 Horne with that third one right as the game was ending. 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.280 I saw him and there's a great photo of this 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.120 to Chanelle and Kenny are photographers got it. But he 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.280 was on Crystal Lave towards the end of the game 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.560 and he almost he almost picked him off, and he 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.600 went up to him and he put his fingers up together, 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.919 you know, like this close. And then a couple of 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:57.520 days later he gets his interception. So, um, it was 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.200 just a fun one, wasn't it. Guys. Yeah, they they 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.120 and and they needed it. They needed to not just win, 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.679 but they needed to be able to close. And because 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.760 I think anybody who's been watching this team for the 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.679 last little bit, when it's thirteen nothing and the Saints 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:15.000 score touchdown to get it a little closer, and everybody, 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.600 I think everybody in the building thought, oh, is this 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:21.840 something coming? And to answer that immediately with a score 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.800 of your own, I think, you know, with Lavisca making 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:26.960 the big play, I think that just made such a 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.240 difference for these guys, and it created a little breathing room. 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.800 But then you still had to close. And so getting 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.479 the late j C pick was that was that was 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:39.599 the thing they absolutely needed to have happened. Yes, all right, Darren, 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:42.720 that was what we do know what don't we know 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.440 right now? We don't know how this team is going 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.919 to offense this year. Uh, they are still trying to 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.960 figure it out themselves, you know. Oddly enough for a 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.839 team that can't convert third downs, pretty good at running 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.200 the ball. I mean, Christian McCaffrey's got back to back 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.360 hundred yard rushing games for the first time. So two 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.400 thousand nineteen, now, Christian popped up on the injury report 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.480 on Wednesday. We don't know what his status is gonna 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.120 be for the rest of the week, what's going on there. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.280 As we should just say this is Thursday morning as 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:14.240 we are recording this. We will have to practices between 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.640 now and the game. So but we just can't We 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.680 just can't tell the future and we don't know what's 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.760 going to happen. But you are loyal listeners can read 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.560 Panthers dot com for all the latest injury reports and 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:28.520 updates from the practice field. Um, but yeah, I mean 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.680 Christian has played well. I think the running game is 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:33.440 set up and it's kind of build on the fact 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.560 that all those offensive line investments we talked about all 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.920 offseason are starting to pay off. I think the way 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.840 Ikey is playing, Uh, he gets a lot of attention 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:46.400 for sacks he gives up. But when you open up 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.840 your career against Myles Garrett, Mark's Davenport and you know 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:51.920 some of the players he's seen, you're gonna give up 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.880 some sacks. But Ikey has kind of stabilized a little 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.360 bit and there's a little bit fewer of that oh 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:02.440 my god play each week. And that's the big question mark. 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.000 When the first picking you know your first pick in 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.320 the first round is your question mark going into the year. 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.239 You feel pretty good about things because he's very, very talented. 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:12.120 You can see him make a difference in the run game. 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:14.680 But it's how stable they've been in the middle. It's 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:18.000 Brady Christians and it's Pat Elfline, it's Austin Corbett. That's 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.280 been a huge difference for them, and they need to 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:24.200 be able to do that because they're not very good 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.160 at passing right now and Baker is struggling a little bit. 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.800 But everybody's being careful to say it's not all Baker. 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:34.960 It's receivers running routes at the correct depth, it's designed, 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.080 it's play calling, and and when you part of this 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.120 is one of those things that the more reps you 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.520 get it something, the better at it you're gonna get. 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.600 And of course everybody's gonna point to Baker didn't show 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:50.040 up until just before training camp. But also not having 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.600 third downs when you're not out there on the play. 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:56.480 They're averaging like fifty five snaps a game of offense, 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.920 and that's not enough snaps a game of offense. So 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:02.840 until they can or until they can convert some third down, 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.120 stay out there a little bit. It's going to be 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.320 reasonable to expect all these new pieces that are fitting 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:10.960 together to take some time to get to know each other. 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:14.280 I mean, we've seen signs from Baker in training camp 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.800 in the preseason that he can make some plays, but 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:21.840 right now everything is just a little bit off. I 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.000 know that. Okay, I'm gonna ask you a question that 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:28.160 you probably can't answer, but for some contexts, yes, yes, 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:31.120 aren't they um, But but for some context here as 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.400 you talk about just things getting sorted out then playing 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.679 together a little bit more, and and I know that 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.240 you said that we've talked a lot about the fact 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.800 that Baker was not here until a couple of weeks 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.240 before training camp. Uh So my question is at what 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:48.760 point do you want to see that consistency? If you're 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:52.640 Scott Fitterer Matt Rule, I feel like usually what you 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.640 kind of know what a team is by week four, 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.720 week five. But with this offense having not gotten a 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:01.439 chance to play together for um for as long as 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:05.800 other offensive offenses have, when would you say, Okay, well 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:09.080 we'll know more about what this offense is. Yeah. The 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.880 correct answer, and this is easy to answer when they 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.560 want to see it is yesterday when they want to 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.720 see it is a week ago. Of course, Um, they're 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.120 still We're going and and I asked Baker after the game, 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.960 I said, what is a reasonable time frame for when 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.559 we can expect this to look like fill in the blank, 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.320 whatever it's going to be. And Baker kind of said 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.240 after the game, He's like, you know, there really is 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.680 no acclimation period. We've got to do it right now. 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.960 That's the that's the time constraint. But I think it's 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.640 fair that And the longer I've done this, the more 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.920 I think about it, the things we see in September 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:47.320 very seldom hold up to the scrutiny of a sixteen 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.880 game season when we look back on it in December 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:53.960 and you individualize those first three games. I mean, certainly 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.160 last year, the first three games of the year, we're 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:59.080 not indicative of the way season was going to go. 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.439 Uh So, I think it's fair to say it's gonna 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.400 take a little bit of time. I think by the 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:08.440 time we've seen five six weeks of this thing, you know, 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.440 certainly you don't want to just give away three weeks 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.920 or anything like that. But I think it's fair that 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.680 it's gonna take a minute for Baker to set on in. 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.640 It's gonna take a minute for him to learn what 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.439 this protection is like. It's gonna take a minute for 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.640 DJ and Robbie and the tight ends and the backs 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:27.880 and everybody to kind of get on the same page. 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:31.560 So I think if we're still asking these questions in 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:35.640 week eight or week nine, and that's a problem. But 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:39.199 I think in week three, it's or week four, it's 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.000 probably two soon start pushing panic buttons and saying, oh 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:46.000 my god, they're never gonna figure this out. All right, Well, Darren, 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.840 our intrepid reporter, has gone and tracked down our very 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:53.800 own Panthers stats guy. What does will have for us 0:11:53.840 --> 0:12:04.760 this week Ficks of the Week? Okay, as promised, here's 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:08.120 our very own from his undisclosed location here in Bank 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:11.280 of America Stadium. It's Panther stat Guy with his data 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.480 the week. We already know Frankiluvu does everything right, Darren, 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:18.280 everything everything. I have numbers of the last two seasons, 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.600 which is last season. In three games of this season, 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:23.400 he has fifty five tackles, twelve tackles for lost, three 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.520 fumble recoveries. The force fumble heard around the world last 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:30.040 week all in four hundred and thirty snaps. Now, as 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:33.199 Darren wrote on the website, those snap numbers are going up. 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:37.319 But that is a zero point one four e p 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:41.439 A per snap that stands for expected points at it. 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.760 It's one of those new fangled fancy moneyball stats, which 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:46.120 I really like. I don't know what an e p 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.480 A is, but I'm assuming more of them is better. 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.040 It's it's it's pretty good. It just means that he 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:54.000 does a lot of things in very few snaps. His 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:58.160 e p A per snap is eleventh among all defenders 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:02.400 and third among linebackers of two years. Frankie Luvu, the 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:06.160 Panthers stat guy of football players. Yeah, we talked about 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.120 him a lot of. Frankie Luvu. My goodness, man, what 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.880 a player. Yeah, and uh, if you want to read 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.280 more about Frankie Luvu, there's a story this morning on 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:18.360 Panthers dot com where de teases over to the website 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:22.000 already I like it. Derek Brown calls it oos behavior 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.040 when Frankie Luvu does a thing. He said, it's oos behavior. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:29.360 Us IS is short for the Samoan Usso, which means brother, 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.240 and that's what they call him in the locker room. 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.000 So Derek and the guys down there just have started 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:37.400 calling it oust behavior when Frankie Luvu does Frankie Luvu thing. 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:41.120 So he I mean he is, He's a tangible shot 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.400 of energy for those guys, and he's always been an 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.320 energy guy. The differences. Now he's put in plays with it, 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.520 and that's what they need more than the jumping around 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:53.880 the yelling. I have to say, there's nothing um more fitting. 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:57.400 I was doing an interview with Frankie um and we 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:58.920 were talking to the crowd right it was on the 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.360 big board in the State Dum because after the preseason, 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.439 and he said, you know, I just my job is 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.280 to bring the energy and he pointed to the side 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:06.760 of his neck and August, I don't know if you've 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:10.080 seen this, he has the full battery tattoo right there. 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.000 And I just thought, oh my god, Oh, that's the 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.400 perfect encapsulation of who you are as a player and 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.400 as a person, someone that is always bringing the energy 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.600 and you just you feed off of it. Super cool, 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.240 super cool. No, I totally have noticed the battery charge 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:25.320 and I cannot remember who it was. Someone in the 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.240 locker room this past week was talking about, you know, oh, 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.040 how is he such a high energy guy? And they 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:31.960 were like, have you seen on this? I was, I 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:33.360 don't know if it was Brian Burns or J. C. 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.920 Horns someone in that same corner. I'm like visualizing the 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:37.960 locker room and they're all in the back there. But 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:39.920 someone back there was like, have you not seen the 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.280 tattoo of the battery? Like that's just that's that's the guy, 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.240 that's the juice you're gonna get from from us. And 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.240 he's probably one of those people to you ever noticed 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.200 the most high energy people like don't drink coffee or whatever, 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:50.800 you know, and they just wake up like that and 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.760 you're like, oh my gosh, Evan Cooper cornerbacks coaches just 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:55.560 like that too, you know. And you're like, I just 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:57.360 would take a little bit, like if I had a 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.240 battery tattoo on my neck, it would be like twenty 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:04.680 five percent. You've got a reason for that, and I 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:08.040 think that's fair. Um. But yeah, And and the other 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.640 funny thing to me about Frankie is when you talk 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:14.120 to Frankie, Frankie's kind of so spoken. Yeah, Frankie sort 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.200 of eases into it when you're talking to him. You 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.600 don't pick up the fact that he's hair on fire, 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.240 constant intensity and all that kind of stuff, because the 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.240 voice when you're talking to him doesn't match the product 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.160 you see out there on the field. It's true. It's 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.760 right under the surface though at any given time. Which 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.440 is so fun. All right, Let's talk about Week four 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.720 Cardinals coming to town. And there's a lot going on 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.360 in this game, around the game, in the game. Um 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:42.400 so let's talk about it. Let's go through something that 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.440 each of you are looking for in this game. Darren, 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.720 We'll start with you, I think first and foremost. I mean, 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.160 they they've done a decent job in the past on 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.720 Kyler Murray and the Cardinals in general. But Kyler Murray's 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.560 a problem, and Matt talked about it yesterday. I mean, 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:59.760 going back to the game he played against him at 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:02.680 Bay Or when Kyler was at Oklahoma and put six 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:06.240 touchdown passes and a and another rushing touchdown on the 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.760 board against him. He just does so many things, and 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.640 he's a he's a hard problem to solve because he 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:15.000 is little, he does run around, he's hard to lay 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.440 eyes on him, he's hard to find, and he's hard 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.680 to catch out in the open field. But Kyler is 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:23.280 just that kind of um guy. You almost have to 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.280 umbrella out your defense and keep everything in front of you. 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:29.320 I think back to the old days with Michael Vick. Um. 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.200 I was just Thomas Davison were just talking about this. 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.240 It's on the on the huddle and h TD was like, hey, 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.480 I think you need a spy situation like I used 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.120 to do with Michael Vick. And Thomas was drafted to 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.680 be the Michael Vick stopper back in the day and 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.080 it worked out pretty well once he got here, So 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.080 I think they do. It's a different challenge when you're 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.120 last week was all about attack and chase and blitz 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.000 and put pressure on. And if you put too much 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:59.280 pressure on and it's not discipline pressure, that guy can 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.680 get out on the edges and make things happen. So 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.960 you've got to be I don't want to say passive. 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:07.359 You never want to be passive on defense. No coach 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.640 has ever said we will have passive on game plan 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:13.399 this week is to be passive on defense. Yeah, but 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.000 you do have to make sure your eyes are right 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.560 and you you're in the place you're supposed to be 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.679 so because he can burn you, he can do it 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.600 in a hurry, and he can heat up fast. I 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.040 mean we saw in the overtime of that Raiders game 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.600 and getting them to that point. I mean, the Cardinals 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:33.400 have been slow starting on offense themselves at points this year, 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.080 but they've been able to heat up in a hurry 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:39.080 a couple of times. So you gotta you gotta keep 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.320 an eye on it. Augusta. What's one thing that you're 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:43.520 looking for? Okay, I'm going to give a shout out 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.680 to the special teams units because they're so fun to watch, 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.280 and I think in the last game we kind of 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.680 saw saw like all of it kind of come together. 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.320 First of all, the blocked field goal from Henry Anderson, 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.040 who he was so fun to talk to him about 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.600 that after the game, because um, you know, I asked him. 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.160 I was like, you know, what's that like? And he goes, 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:00.760 you go for it every single place, So when it 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.679 actually happens, it feels almost surreal. It's like, wait, I actually, 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:05.879 He's like, at first, didn't even process that I blocked it. 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:07.840 It was like, like, you know, and no one made 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.240 contact exactly, and he was like, no one was coming 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:11.879 towards me because no one knew I did it, and 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:13.399 so he was like it didn't feel real. It was 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:15.840 like all this happened, but like no one was celebrating. 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:17.840 Everyone was like, what's going on? You're like, did that 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.399 actually happen? Can I tell you? I can tell you 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.080 who was celebrating. We talked about this on the radio broadcast. 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.640 Was my favorite report of the day, and I talked 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.199 to him out Rule about it as well. Chris chamber 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.280 let me tell you what. His headset fell off because 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:34.000 he was so excited. And he's one of those people too, 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.119 this very soft spoken when you talked to him in 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:39.040 the office, and and then it has a different intensity 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.280 when he's on the field, especially in a game. And 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.760 then he went over to Rule and they had the 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:46.560 most aggressive high five I've ever seen. Um. I'm sure 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:49.199 it was on the TV broadcast. It was amazing, you know, 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.199 and it's just the sideline it was. It was just 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.919 such a great moment. It was akin to that that 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:57.320 Marquis Haynes touched out with the momentum that it created 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.960 um for this entire team. I actually saw it was 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:01.920 right in front of where I'm positioned in the press box. 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:03.760 That was where Tabor was, so I saw him and 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:05.240 I wish I had like a video right now because 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.120 the way he was just jolting his hand back and forth. 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:08.840