1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Seven pm on Wall Street. I'm Doug Prisoner at Bloomberg 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: World headquarters in New York, kicking off the first hour 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: of Daybreak Asia. And I'm Paul Allen in Sydney where 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: we got the ASX. Just I've been portray ten am 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Friday morning. It's a stagged stat here, so it takes 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: a while to get things rolling. But what a day 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: quarter a day boy. Well, let's stay focused on the 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: markets for the moment. We kind of had a very 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: interesting session in the US pol We had a number 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: of FED speakers essentially reiterating their resolve to bring down inflation. 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: Now importantly, one of the Fed's preferred measures of inflation, 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: that's the Personal Consumption Expenditures Index. We had data on 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: that reading today for the fourth quarter. Again that was 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: revised up to a rate of four point four percent, 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: slightly above the initial reading. But remember that's a fourth 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: quarter figure. The important number will happen tomorrow morning when 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: we get PCE for the month of February. Now, in 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: terms of Fed speaking, not really any a big surprise, 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: and not a lot of movement in the bond market 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: as a result, with a two year treasury very little changed. 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: We finished New York trading at a yield of four 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: eleven the ten year at three fifty four. In terms 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 1: of equity market price action, only one industry group among 24 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: the eleven that make up the S and P five 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: hundred was lower, that being financials. Overall, today we had 26 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: the S and P five hundred higher by six tenths 27 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: of one percent, where the DAO was concerned to gain 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: a four tenths of one percent, and in the Nasdaq 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: market the Composite index up about seven tenths of one percent. 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: The dollar weaker today against its piers, with a Bloomberg 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: Dollar Spot Index dropping about four tenths of one percent, 32 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: and we've got a weaker yen now at one thirty 33 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: two eighty seven. We also have early trading underway in 34 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: Sydney poll and I'm going to say it's mild positivity 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: for the ASX two hundred. Yeah, that's right. It does 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: take us a while to get going, but those stocks 37 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: that are online at the moment showing some reasonable gains 38 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: were a little bit more than a quarter of one percent. 39 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: He mentioned that the latest FED speak there well FED 40 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,279 Speaker 1: officials are suggesting that more monetary tightening might be needed 41 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: even after the collapse of three US banks earlier this month. 42 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: Minneapolis FED President Neil Kashgari said the services sector excluding 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: housing has yet to slow down despite a series of 44 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: aggressive rate hikes, and he said it's premature to judge 45 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: what impact recent term oil in the financial system is 46 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: going to have on the US economy. What's unclear right 47 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: now is how much of this of the banking stresses 48 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: of the past few weeks is leading to a sustained 49 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: credit crunch, which would then slow down the US economy. Meantime, 50 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: Richmond FED President Thomas Barkin said the FED can high 51 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: rates more if inflation risks persist, but Bakin remains undecided 52 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: on whether the FED should adjust rates at its next meeting. 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: Boston FED President Susan Collins said more needs to be 54 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: done to bring inflation down to the FEDS two percent target. 55 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: She views the quarter point rate increases as the appropriate 56 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: pace needed. PC deflated data was out tomorrow at thirty 57 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: am Wall Street time. That might offer some clues on 58 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: what the fit's going to do next. And let's expect 59 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: the data to show price pressures ran at a pace 60 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: more than double the FITS Tigeham February meantime, the Biden 61 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: administration is proposing tougher bank regulations to help make sure 62 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: there are no more failures of those midsize banks. We 63 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: have that story from Bloomberg's Tom Busby. The White House 64 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: now calling on federal banking regulators and the Treasury Department 65 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: to tighten up the rules from midsize bank to prevent 66 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: any more regional banks like Silicon Valley Bank from collapsing. 67 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: Among the recommendations annual stress tests for those midsize banks, 68 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: shortening the time to apply those stress tests once banks 69 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: reach one hundred billion dollars in assets, and strengthening supervisory 70 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: tools to ensure that those lenders can withstand rising interest rates. 71 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: Tom Busby, Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. We hear Tesla is looking 72 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: to build a battery plant in the US. This would 73 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: likely be an arrangement with China's dominant electric vehicle battery manufacture. 74 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: We've got more from Bloomberg's Ed Ludlow. Tesla officials notified 75 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: White House officials of this plan in the last couple 76 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: of weeks. According to sources, the idea is that it 77 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: is a new battery facility. Texas is a possible location 78 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: for it. But what sources are saying is that Tesla 79 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: wants to mirror the type of deal that Ford did 80 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: with Atlatl, the biggest maker of battery cells for evs 81 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: in the world, a sort of Chinese giant. But in 82 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: the case of Ford and Michigan, what they did is 83 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: Ford is wholly owns the US entity. It wholly owns 84 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: the operation they license the technology from CTL. Tesla wants 85 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: to replicate that, We're told by sources. Representatives of TESLA'STL 86 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: and the White House didn't immediately respond to requests for comment. 87 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: Tesla is not a lot of change after hours well. 88 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: The logistics arm of Ali Barber is said to be 89 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: gearing up for an initial public offering. That story from 90 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Zivan Men sources says Hi Naw Network Technology has 91 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: started preparations with banks for its Hong Kong IPO and 92 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: the listing could happen by the end of this year. 93 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: It would be the first of Ali Baba's six business 94 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: units to go public. Banks including China International Capital and 95 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: Citigroup are said to be working with ti U to 96 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: prepare for the share sale. TAIL is currently valued at 97 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: more than twenty billion dollars. We here the company hasn't 98 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: decided on the IPO size, and the timing is still 99 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: subject to change depending on market conditions in Hong Kong. 100 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: I'm Van Maham Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. JD dot Com ads 101 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: Sort after two of its subsidiaries also filed for Hong 102 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: Kong IPOs. We've got more from Bloomberg's Joe and Wong. 103 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: Jingdong Property and Jingdong Industrials said they've submitted listing applications 104 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: to the Hong Kong Stock Exchange. The firms didn't disclose 105 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: fundraising amounts, valuations, or prices for the shares. The two 106 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: are the latest Chinese companies choosing to tap the Hong 107 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: Kong IPO market instead of a US listing. Increasing scrutiny 108 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: of Chinese businesses in the US, combined with Paijing's concern 109 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: about data security for US listed companies, are among the 110 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: factors for listing in Hong Kong. Still, debuts by Chinese 111 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: firms of slumped in Hong Kong and overseas since Paijing's 112 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: cracked down on the tech sector two years ago. Since January, 113 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: Hong Kong IPO proceeds are forty eight percent lower than 114 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: at the same time. Last year in Hong Kong. I'm 115 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: Joan Wong Bloomberg Day, Brigaesia, and we were talking earlier 116 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: about today's mildly hawk ish Fed speak. Well, markets are 117 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: now expecting the FED funds rate to sit around four 118 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: point three percent by the end of the year. If 119 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: that is true, it is about seventy basis points below 120 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: where we are currently Now. A number of strategists are 121 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: being very cautious in saying the market is wrong to 122 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: expect rate cuts later this year. Then, if you look 123 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: at today's economic data, US unemployment claims clicked up for 124 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: the first time in three weeks now. In terms of 125 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: inflation as measured by that so called PCE cored later 126 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: it's due tomorrow, that is Friday in the US, and 127 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: it's expected to have remained persistently high in the month 128 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: of February. Let's check Global News next on daybreak g 129 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: Aisia top story. Donald Trump has been indicted by the 130 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 1: Manhattan Grand Jury at Baxter with Moore from the Bloomberg 131 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: News Roman San Francisco, Eddie, Yeah, this is true history. 132 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: Douglas the first former president in American history to be indicted. 133 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Wendy Benjaminson. It's an incredibly historic moment in American history, really, 134 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: but it's also it is justin we don't know what 135 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: the charges are yet, as you said, and we were 136 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: very surprised because yesterday we heard the grand jury was 137 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: taking a three week break, so we didn't know what happened. 138 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: But I guess they came to a quick conclusion and 139 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 1: decided to indict him. I don't think this will even 140 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: slow him down from his current run. He's going to 141 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: run as a victim of the Democratic deep state, try 142 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: to capitalize and try to capitalize. Trump has said that 143 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: he wanted to be indicted. He's reported to be in 144 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: mar Lago now he'll most likely be brought back to 145 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: New York, will be arrested, fingerprinted, arraigned the first part 146 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: of next week. Authorities have said it will not be 147 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: a public purp walk. Trump is now saying the indictment 148 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: was political persecution and Bloombridge Joe Matthew says that he 149 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: has posted this is political persecution and election interference at 150 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: the highest level in history. From the time I came 151 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: down the Golden escalator at Trump Tower, the radical left 152 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: Democrats have been engaged in a witch hunt to destroy 153 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: the Make America Again movement Now again Joe, reading from 154 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: the Trump's statement, he went on to say that this 155 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: whole prosecution is funded by George Soros. Finland has cleared 156 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: its last obstacle to gain NATO in Troy. Turkey's parliament 157 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: has voted to approve final membership and Finland is becoming 158 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: the thirty first member of NATO. Finland's membership will become 159 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: official once it deposits ascension, a bid and the US 160 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: State Department. That could happen in the coming days. Meanwhile, 161 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: it comes as a blow to Russia, which has been 162 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: signaling its opposition. The move gives the Alliance a bit 163 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: more control of the Baltic Sea region. Meanwhile, Russia has 164 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: detained Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gerskovich for alleged espionage, 165 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: triggering a whole new confrontation between Moscow and Washington. State 166 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: Department spokesman Benda Patel says diplomatic channels are underway to 167 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: get him back. The US embassy in Moscow has requested 168 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: official notification of the arrest, and Russia is required to 169 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: provide that under our bilateral Consular Convention. But Bloomberg Jody 170 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: Schneider says, there's more than just espionage charges, and this 171 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: really is an escalation of tensions. It's basically Putin and 172 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: Russia saying that we will arrest your journalists if we 173 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: have to get your attention. Meanwhile, former Deputy Secretary of 174 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: Defense Milk Mulroy says this is part of a high 175 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: risk ploy for more prisoner swaps. I think the Russians 176 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: are going to focus on the former Russian intelligence operative 177 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: in prison essentially for murder in Germany as an assassination 178 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: that he did there, and that's probably who they're going 179 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: to focus on. But that person is guilty and was 180 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: sentenced for murder. These two individuals are basically being held 181 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: as pawns at political hostages, and whether we're willing to 182 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: go to the Germans on that is to be seen. 183 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: And the US State Department is asking all non essential 184 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: American citizens to leave the Russian Federation. Global News powered 185 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: by more than twenty seven hundred journalist and analyst in 186 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: over one hundred and twenty countries in San Francisco. I'm 187 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: d Baxter and this is Bloomberg. Thank you, Eddie. Let's 188 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: get to our guest, to Pauline Crystal is with us 189 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: as she is a capital portfolio manager at Capstream. She 190 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: joins us from Sydney, Australia. Pauline, thanks for being with us. 191 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: A lot of the conversation in the US centers on 192 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: what is in store for the FED in terms of 193 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: the main meeting, whether or not we're going to get 194 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: a quarter point rate hike, and then after that perhaps 195 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: either you are of the opinion that the FED goes 196 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: into kind of a stasis mode kind of maybe the 197 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: pause is appropriate, or rate cuts before the end of 198 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: the year. Is it too soon to make that call? High, 199 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: Good morning the againtall. Thanks for having me. Look, it's 200 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: been a lot has changed since, you know, the beginning 201 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: of March, when it looked like inflation was taking higher 202 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: and rates has to keep going higher and higher, and 203 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: with what happened on the banking market, now suddenly the 204 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: narrative has changed, and I think it's still a little 205 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: bit early to work out what the FED is going 206 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: to do. And even now for the next meeting, a 207 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: lot of the speakers has come out and talked about 208 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 1: how inflation is still the main focus and that it 209 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: still has to find inflation and statilize prices, but at 210 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: the same time, the recession risk is becoming really really 211 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: real with instability in the banking sector. So look, I 212 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: given the message of defense and the dots are still 213 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: pricing and showing one more hike. You know, it's unlikely 214 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: that we're going to see the set pivot right away 215 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: at the next meeting. It was like a while even 216 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: from the tiping that we're going to see from the 217 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: banking sector to flow through the economy now. So your 218 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: question about is it too early to price hikes in, 219 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: it seems pretty early, because you know, you want to 220 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: see the large effect of the hips that we've had 221 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: over the past twelve or some months tech effect into 222 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: the economy, and arguably the cuts might be accelerated from 223 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: where they were before the SVB collapse, but you know, 224 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: whether or not we're going to have them by the 225 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: end of this year, it's probably a bit early to say, Yeah, 226 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:43,599 Speaker 1: what is your expectation about that lagging effect around the 227 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: inflation fight. Do you anticipate to see inflation coming down 228 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: within the next few months. Yeah, Look, it's coming down, 229 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: and we've seen it trained down for a number of 230 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: months already. But now the question is going to be 231 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: Going from nine to five percent was the easy paths 232 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: now not from five pc. Being back within targets will 233 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: be the difficult path, because the change is going to 234 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: be very incremental. So and that's why, you know, we 235 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: don't believe that the fact is just going to pivot 236 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: right away and cut because we're still going to be 237 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: above target for a little while. Now that's obviously burying 238 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: some very major events, such as more instability on the 239 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: banking sector. Pauline, Rather, I'm sorry, let's shift the attention 240 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: to China because it's a very different situation, particularly when 241 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: you look at wholesale inflation where prices are in deflation 242 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: and later today, of course it's the official PMI data, 243 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: and I'm wondering whether or not we can look at 244 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: the PPI, the last print that we had for PPI 245 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: in China, that deflationary read and assume that the manufacturing 246 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: manufacturing economy in China is still struggling. Hey, look, that's 247 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: that's a very interesting point. That's actually a different speed 248 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: where we're seeing it happening in the US and happening 249 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: in China. But what we want to remember is China's 250 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: only started reopening and lifted all the restrictions that they 251 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: had at the end of November, so it still needs 252 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: time for the whole economy to reopen and for that 253 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: inflationary pressure. I mean then I'm saying inflationary lightly to 254 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: flow through the economy. So I don't think we can 255 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: joy any conclusions from a slightly weaker print and say, hey, 256 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: you know, things are not looking good, but it just 257 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: takes time to flow through. A lot of policies have 258 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: been in place to support the economy, in particularly the 259 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: property sector over the past eighteen months has suffered quite 260 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: a fair bit, and we've seen a very strong policy 261 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: impulse to go and support all those sectors. So you know, 262 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: it's getting there. It's taking a little time, and it's 263 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: not going to be a straight journey. But now China 264 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: is reppen in China is supporting its own economy, and 265 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: China is the growth is sticking back up. Yeah, and 266 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: a number of economies around the Asia Pacific are linking 267 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: their own growth stories to what's going on in China, 268 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: and among them Australia as well. And you've got a 269 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: waiting towards Australian domestic assets. Is it to do with 270 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: the China story or is there something else here? So 271 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: we have waiting so our domestic it's a domestic bias 272 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: that we have been based in Sydney. It makes sense 273 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: to invest in close to home assets. We've definitely benefited 274 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: a lot from China cements for commodities for example, and 275 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: that has supported the Australian growth quite a fair bit. 276 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: But at this stage we are a lot more dependent 277 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: on how what's happening in the US, in particular in 278 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: the rates market. That's driving our markets a lot small 279 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: and obviously China reopening and i'm growth sticking back up 280 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: will support to some extent exports from Australia. But you know, 281 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: if your global markets are being unstable, that's going to 282 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: affect us well. Should we be concerned about a policy 283 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: shift mild as it may be coming out of the 284 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: boj a new governor will take the reins in April, 285 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: or should we be concerned about a change in policy 286 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: at the Bojok That's something that we're watching very closely. 287 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: In particular, when the band for JGBS widened to fifty 288 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: basis points, that's something that we kept an eye on 289 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: and that ties back to what we saw with SEB 290 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: and what we saw around securities being incurring mark to 291 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: market losses. So obviously if that band widens further, or 292 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: if there's an unpegging, then you would expect rates to 293 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: sell off and that will impact the securities that a 294 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: lot of the banks will hold on their book. So 295 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: that's something that we're looking at very carefully. But again, 296 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's a little bit early to just say 297 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: with certainty what DOJ is going to do. 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